Late yesterday the DOJ National Security Division (DOJ-NSD) filed another motion in federal court urging Judge Cannon not to allow the special master to review documents they alone determine to be “classified.” [pdf of motion Here]
The DOJ-NSD, officially the Trump targeting division, is frantic that an outside reviewer would be granted access to oversee the DOJ/IC unilateral determinations of the documents, even if…. [watch the goal posts moving now]… those documents were previously declassified by President Trump.
Yes, even if the documents were declassified (they were), the DOJ is apoplectic that someone would be allowed to see them. Their reason?… “sources and methods” might be exposed.
The DOJ-NSD is claiming the Intelligence Community (IC) is the real authority here, not the President of the United States. It is a rather remarkable position to take.
You might even find yourself wondering by what constitutional authority does anyone in the IC bureaucracy determine whether a president’s declassification of documents was legit? The President has the power to declassify; however, according to the position of the DOJ-NSD, the president must defer to them. :::spit::: Hopefully Judge Cannon sees this for what it is.
However, all of that said, the serendipitous revelation of the FBI hiring Christopher Steele’s source, Igor Danchenko, as a Confidential Human Source (CHS) for three years (March 2017 through Oct 2020) helps to explain the current level of the DOJ-NSD apoplexy, in this motion.
Danchenko was labeled by the corrupt FBI as a Confidential Human Source specifically to shield him (and them) from scrutiny that could be applied by any oversight or inquiry. In essence Danchenko became shielded by the same “sources and methods” scheme the DOJ-NSD is now worried about retaining in the Mar-a-Lago documents.
As the DOJ-NSD now moves the goal posts to say, ‘yeah, so what if Trump declassified the documents – we still don’t like it, and he might reveal our sources and methods,’ we begin to get a more fulsome perspective on the reason for the Mar-a-Lago raid.
President Trump declassified the documents showing the corrupt DOJ and FBI targeting operation of him. The corrupt DOJ and FBI went and took back the evidence against them in the Mar-a-Lago raid and now says no one should be allowed to see it.
Everything is becoming increasingly transparent.
Overlay the Durham probe and you discover, the govt people responsible for illegally targeting Trump are the same govt people responsible for investigating the illegal Trump targeting.
We keep watching….
Why did the government agree to one of Trump’s choices for special master? That scares me… something doesn’t smell right…
Was just wondering if the one the govt says they don’t want isn’t a bluff because that’s the one they really want! Mind games for sure!
Sordid games played by glow-in-the-dark spies with eyes and ears everywhere
Don’t forget Dearie was the FISA judge who was played for a sucker by the FBI with their invalid 2nd and 3rd Page warrants. Wouldn’t you think he might be a little ticked off about that and would be more sympathetic to Trump’s side, having seen the malfeasance of the FBI/DOJ?
On the other hand he may want to keep his being a rubber stamp for FISA hidden.
Was he really played as a sucker or do they have dirt on Judge Deere?
Retired Magistrate here: No legitimate judge likes being hoodwinked by signing a Warrant he/she should not have signed. The judge/magistrate relies on the information presented to you in the Affidavit to support the Warrant. A judge or magistrate has no independent way of knowing whether the Affidavit is legit or not.
But it he didnt recuse himself, the magistrate. But if you are talking about dearie, he may have been in the same position
Marcia- do magistrates normally sign off on warrants? Or is it somewhat rare? Just asking because it’s been speculated around here. 😇
Normally, federal law enforcement gets an indictment first. You get the indictment, you HAVE probable cause as the indictment declares that you have it. Then you can get arrest warrants from a District Court JUDGE, and search warrants to go with it since the indictment IS probable cause.
This was an indictment-less warrant, and it was for a former President. This affidavit could be easily crafted to get probable cause because it is unlikely any judge would know if any of the documents with classification markings on them were DEclassified. No one knows. The fact that Trump’s lawyers gave up a folder full of documents with classified markings to the FBI when the grand jury subpoena was served, makes it appear as if the documents were NOT declassified (maybe those were NOT declassified–we don’t know). Using the possibility of extreme secrets being at risk, with governmental “compelling interest” in securing such documents, would be enough for probable cause.
I think any District Court Judge in Florida would have signed it, but would have grilled the agents making the request a lot more. Citing the Espionage Act might have prompted more probing from the judge as many federal judges do not like that law.
Yes. Magistrates exist as an extension of the District CT Judge authority. They perform routine functions to free up the CT calender for more demanding or higher level items. Though IMO, this particular warrant should have been kicked up to a actual Art III Judge by the Magistrate.
Retired Magistrate here: In Federal Court a Magistrate has the authority to do so. However, in a high profile case like this it should have been the Judge who signed off.
All depends on what kopromat they have on him. With access to everybody’s secrets at the click of a mouse, blackmail has never been easier
It should scare you. We know exactly what it means.
I hope PDJT isn’t basing his faith in the person solely on the fact either he or someone he likes appointed them or know them. I would hope he KNOWS this person extraordinarily well on some level. Because if the person isn’t compromised yet, clearly the feds have something they will black mail them with that they are sitting on. What a messed up world we are living in.
If he gets outsmarted/stabbed in the back again I’m going to be seriously ticked.
Lol. Like President Trump ever got outsmarted or stabbed in the back.
He’s the old geezer that signed fisa warrants against PDJT colleagues. Useful tool, or on their side? I don’t know.
If they did like one (I know they said they did- but they can’t be trusted) todays filing calls their own bluff.
Did they agree, or was Dearie just one their lists had in common?
Sources and method of corruption.
Here is the catch. They could have Biden simply re-classify those documents or the head of the FBI or CIA who is concerned about “sources and methods” could possibly re-classify but the problems are. for them, in both Bush’s and Obama’s Executive Orders on Classified Documents there is an exception to such power if the purpose is to hide wrong doing by the person changing the classification AND reclassification takes away their claim that Trump unlawfully possessed classified documents.
Trump’s attorneys should POUND the table with “the court shouldn’t make this decision, the Biden administration has the power to and should make the decision whether to reclassify those documents”.
double secret probation dean wermer special
Making Trump guilty ex post facto? I don’t think so…
There is NO risk of ex post facto. There is a process for reclassification that would protect President Trump.
It doesn’t work that way.
Yes, Sock Puppet JoeBama’s pen & cellphone can be used to “reclassify” materials and do not rule out this desperate measure being used. The risk is if there is a chance it can be proven this action is used to cover a crime.
However, there is a massive administrative effort tied to this decision and would create NO Problems for President Trump.
The administrative effort starts with a NOTICE of classification level change, after the decision is made.
For president Trump and his Team, they have the responsibility to take all the proper actions to: acknowledge and report, Mark the Materials and ensure their proper storage…then report their actions.
This will (should) not change the ability of President Trump and his Team to keep the materials as long as they are stored properly and people accessing the materials have the right level security clearance. Where Sock Puppet JoeBama’s folks could cause issues is if they mess with security clearances, level of classification and certifications of storage assets President Trump is using. ALL the other presidential libraries and records caches include CLASSIFIED MATERIAL belonging to each of those Presidents.
The rest of the nightmare is (should be) on the head of JoeBama’s folks as they have to FIND ALL the copies and take care of their marking, storage, disposition and reporting for each copy. IF there is a single honest person involved, that honest person can create a nightmare by forcing compliance wth the process spelled out in the law.
The kicker is that this changes nothing with regard to the Special Master review.
President Trump likely had no original classified documents unless he generated them himself. The originals are kept in the department where they were classified. The President receives copies. The Government loses nothing by Trump having copies which are personally his. Copies are considered Personal records and not Presidential records as determined by law. This is laid out in the Motion filed by Trump’s lawyers in response to the Prosecution attempting to appeal the judges decision to allow a special master.
It does not matter if originals are held or not … the original and ALL Copies, even those held by President Trump, as his personal materials, can be “reclassified” via an order from Sock Puppet JoeBama.
The is a process for changing classification of documents. As long as its followed, this action would not impact President Trump.
The “technical” and “process” crime attempt is likely falling apart on the DoJ because President Trump’s Team has all the required documentation that proves their compliance with the law. In fact if the clowns at DoJ still have documents he declassified in their possession (Original or Copy) improperly marked at “Classified” to some level…it is the DoJ who committed a technical violation of rules regarding handling of materials.
Actually, declassified documents can’t be “reclassified.” This would create an ex post facto situation.
NO its does NOT.
There is a process for this decision.
No ex post facto situation is created nor even exists.
First READ my comment and then Read the regulations.
I had been part of many “reclassification” efforts during my professional career.
Please read the laws cited in the Motion section III. Particularly look at footnote 7 on page 12. Records in the President’s possession, by law, are either Presidential records generated by him or Personal, generated by others and copies given to him. These records by law can only be classified as one or the other. This determination falls under the Presidential Records Act which is not a criminally prosecutable law.
They can still be CLASSIFIED…so what is your point.
PRESIDENT BIDEN can classify them no matter how you want to slice it. The key is there is no ex post facto liability attached as long as the document handling process is followed.
The law you cite only addresses if a record belongs to the President or not. IT DOES NOT address classification of the record.
Do not make the mistake of conflating the Presidential Records Act that addresses ONLY ownership vs the Federal Codes that address Classification of Materials.
Please stop calling him President, it’s irritating
It’s important to state that: (1) only the President (per the PRA) makes the determination as to what constitutes a “personal document,” and what constitutes a “presidential document,” (2) when a President determines that certain documents are not “personal,” and returns them to the Archivist, it is only the latter (presidential) documents which, now in the custody of the Archivist, can have their classification changed.
No document that the President has determined is ‘personal’ (no matter the subject matter, because he has sole discretion in this area!) can have its classification changed by a sitting president.
There is actually no concept of an “original” classified document. Digital copies of everything are retained in a secure document management software system which tracks each document, each revision to said document, and each access. (Of course, the latter is what Hillary Clinton attempted to bypass by creating her bathroom server – completely and flagrantly against the law.)
WRONG there is a concept of an Original, it is just not a important as folks are making it.
Logs have to be kept to document each copy of the original and original can be altered, with a cascading requirement to make the same changes to ALL the copies.
ALL the documents derived off the Original Carry the same ID number with an added designation for copy number. The president declassifies based on the original document number and that declassifies the original and ALL copies. The President does not have to physically control the original to make his decision.
All data systems have administrators who can change files at will, just ask General Flynn.
Well, pin a rose on you. I guess you know more than Trump’s lawyers because of the efforts of your professional career. I guess this is not the professional career of President Trump’s legal team who used these laws they cited to justify their case.
If I were Trump, I would have immediately scanned and stored the documents elsewhere. Since he declassified them I’m sure he has the right yo do this.
Just like I have copies of pleadings etc from this entire case.
My thought is Trump knew this would happen. You cant tell me some friendly in the gov didn’t tell his SS they were coming long before they came. The whole point of the SS is his protection so they’ve got feelers out everywhere. Why Trump let them do it is apparent now.
Bidan just couldn’t resist, he had to know.
Any attempt by Biden to have reclassified these documents would have been for one reason only – to prevent the courts and the public from seeing the malfeasance of the FBI/DOJ. That would put Biden in a cover-up – the stuff Watergate crimes were made of.
That is true but who is going to do the investigation as well as bring the charges??
The Saga of Hillary’s Server as well as as ALL the derivatives …. the Weiner Lap Top and DNC Server are stark examples of the answer to that question.
So, in your opinion, why bother?
No, it is always worth the bother to force the cover up.
Its the cover up effort that exposes the rats and educates some to see the light. It also forces the bad guys to prosecute a fall guys … theyw ill eventually have to prosecute the fall-guy who brings it all down around their ears.
Also, people need to understand what is happening, the good and bad.
Doc,please never get dissuaded of sharing your knowledge and experiences because of some petty personal attacks. I and am sure many others appreciate the knowledgeable explanations on many subjects.
You set up the same scenario used in Watergate. The Senate Watergate Committee, known officially as the Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, was a special committee established by the United States Senate, S.Res. 60, in 1973, to investigate the Watergate scandal, with the power to investigate the break-in at the Democratic National Committee (DNC) headquarters at the Watergate office complex in Washington, D.C., and any subsequent cover-up of criminal activity, as well as “all other illegal, improper, or unethical conduct occurring during the controversial 1972 presidential election, including political espionage and campaign finance practices”.
Just a different name for the committee and different purpose for the investigation, including what is beginning to look like a cover-up by the DOJ/FBI since they knew these documents had been declassified by President Trump but went ahead with their raid anyway.
From the corners of a few sentences in today’s (yesterday’s) DOJ filing, an important fact kept ‘peeking around corners’ to the effect that the nature of the criminal activity DOJ is investigating is related specifically to the former president’s retention of certain documents.
Consistent with prevailing theories about the nature of these documents, the only sliver of a pretext that DOJ could possibly use to demand the return of particular documents President Trump LEGALLY has now in his possession which may have (or not) been declassified or declared (or not) “personal documents” is that particular condition stated in the applicable law that presidential documents kept for the purpose of hiding wrongdoing can be subject to prosecution.
My belief, therefore, is that DOJ is scheming to frame (yet again!) Donald Trump for the crime of declaring numerous sets of documents as personal for the sole purpose of hiding his guilt. These documents touch on Jan. 6, Russia Collusion, The Phone Call to Zelensky, and many others which were subjects of controversy and litigation during Trump’s presidency.
Of course, the opposite is true, i.e., DOJ will likely attempt to frame the President so as to take possession of documents that reveal its own enormous guilt on many, many fronts, thus making it imperative to fabricate a legal basis for seizing and reclassifying them as TOP SECRET documents.
Nothing more, and nothing less.
WAY WORSE than Watergate!
So, was this Wray’s panty raid, or was it the Attorney General’s panty raid, or was it Biden’s panty raid? Inquiring minds want to know who gets blamed for the panty raid?
Biden is so brain dead he could never be charged with anything in a court of law.
I can imagine if Bidet ever gets charged with anything, he will simply fail to recall. Hell, it even worked for Comey. At least it would be believable if Pedo Pete said it.
I hope Judge Cannon has a way to assure her and her family’s safety! We are in an era of American experience that we have never witnessed on our homeland, but is getting very dangerous with astonishing speed
I’m sure they already have protection, one of Trump’s last EO in 2021 was additional protection for judges
“however, according to the position of the DOJ-NSD, the president must defer to them. :::spit::: Hopefully Judge Cannon sees this for what it is.”
What a yawn.
if Judge Cann0n doesn’t send them packing SCOTUS certainly will.
I, too copied the quote from Sundance that you did. You pasted yours before I did mine. Which is great! It shows we both saw that statement as very important.
I pray Judge Cannon does not bow, bend, or otherwise falter in her duties regarding this case.
In the end…
The IC will be Cannon fodder 🙂
I hope and pray you are right.
you overestimate the character of a SCOTUS that gives hanging chads ‘standing’ for a dem-recount, but denies ‘standing’ for multiple States to contest vote fraud which produced incorrect and election-changing results, by original jurisdiction.
They could even have taken “Judicial Notice” of vote fraud in chicago, milwaukee, st. louis, atlanta, phoenix, philly, new jersey, new york, detroit, et cetera. Plus the actual evidence they ignored, and failure to follow the legislative state requirements.
But they folded like a cheap suit.
Relax, the Constitution is specific.
it doesn’t give the”Intelligence Community” executive power over any Presidential decision.
And that’s that.
Well, the fat man had a job to do. Way more dangerous than Sessions. We knew Jeffy was skeered.
Sources and methods = fraud.
Maybe we should forward this to Judge Cannon… I’d love to see her rip them a new one.
*Do NOT contact Judge Cannon*
That would play right into the DOJ’s hands…
Unless, of course, THAT is what you’re hoping for?
Attempting to influence a judge would not be a wise move.
I am aware. Hence my comment that was (properly) directed to the person that had suggested doing so.
Yeah, especially since the DOJ is probably monitoring all her emails and other communications.
The big coverup….”sources and methods” is the same as “ongoing investigation”. Time to burn these agencies to the ground. And what frustrates me even further in senate hearings, the RINO’s just accept these responses as fine and never get their question answered!
Figuratively speaking, of course… 🙂
It’s right next to “No legal standing” in their defensive playbook.
The sooner we all realize there is only one party in Washington, the UNIPARTY, then events start to make sense. There are really only a handfull of true MAGA patriots, nearly all in the House. The rat bastard RINOS want to get rid of Trump more than the evil dems do. Exposing their complicity with the dems in every scheme to derail Trump from the beginning would be the end of their political careers and possible jail time when financial audits prove money laundering benefits. (Ukraine ring a bell?) Sad that we have to hold our noses and vote for some of these RINOS as the very slightly lesser of two evils. Rant over.
Exposure would bring down these institutions which would be a good thing. This would present a golden opportunity for someone like Trump to rebuild what we need as a nation in a positive way. I would not trust anyone else but him to do it.
They can’t lie 24\7 about documents if someone else can see them. Well of course they can still lie, but a special master makes it harder
The DOJ-NSD is not nearly as frantic as members of the SSCI are.
I noticed that too.
Or Barr for that matter. He seems about to piddle himself.
I don’t know about soiling his Fruit-of-the-Looms but he sure does look “concerned” to “apprehensive” about be exposed…….. Ha-ha-ha. Screw him.
And after he disgraced himself doing their bidding, they came after him for firing the NY prosecutor. No honor among swampers.
“The DOJ-NSD is claiming the Intelligence Community (IC) is the real authority here, not the President of the United States. It is a rather remarkable position to take.”
Did you know there are clearances that POTUS doesn’t have? The IC has had this attitude for decades. This shows a SEVERE lack of public accountability, *especially* since the Patriot Act, which was supposed to sunset long ago.
Everyone’s favorite Nunes was running around with hair on fire making sure it wasn’t. The chains won’t be tossed so easily.
The DOJ/NSD are agencies within the Executive Branch. Consequently, they serve at the pleasure of the President who is Constitutionally over them and they serve at his pleasure since all power of the Executive Branch rests in the solitary Executive. The Patriot Act does not overrule the Constitution nor does any other law.
But FBI Director comey felt quite sure he could ignore the congressional briefing/disclosure requirements of the ‘russia, russia, russia’ scam against PRESIDENT trump, their boss, “Because of the sensitivity of the matter.”
The FBI believes it trumps the President, not the other way around.
They may believe it but that does not make it true.
That’s what I thought long ago. But the reality I’ve found is that secrecy shields the perpetrator from even having to obey law. The legal workarounds have opened up the IC to run roughshod over the constitution and USC. “Contractors” are one discovered workaround to legal limitations. Admiral Rogers uncovered that within his own agency. Another post-911 error was “shaping intel to fit the policy”, as stated by a section chief post Patriot Act. Before that point in time, that was a huge no-no because if you’re telling “decisionmakers” what they *want* to hear by cherry picking, then it’s no longer accurate intel.
Do we know when this Judge will announce who will be the Special Master? Praying that sunlight continues to shine on this entire situation.
I think tomorrow is the day for the next hearing.
There’s a report in the liberal media that the Durham investigation is winding down. I would take it with a HUGE grain of salt. It sure didn’t come from the Durham or Trump camps.
Remember, a day is coming when:
Luk 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name’s sake.
Luk 21:13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
Luk 21:14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
Luk 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
What will the DOJ do then ???
Kill us.
The judge — or any court — would dismiss this out of hand, and the DoJ knows it. The whole purpose of secrecy in government is to protect The People, not the government. Once the government can declare secrecy because of sources and methods then The People lose the constitutional right to confront witnesses against them. The government can stamp all evidence against you CLASSIFIED and you or your attorney cannot confront it.
The Founders experienced the ordeal of trial by secrecy in their day. Why do you think the 4th and 5th amendments were insisted?
We pray that Judge Cannon is and Honorable, Constitutional Judge and stands up against these shysters.
Excerpt from the Motion.
“…nothing in the PRA or any other source of law establishes a plausible claim of privilege…”
This statement is ludicrous on its face. As such, it doesn’t even warrant comment.
”or any other justification for an injunction restricting the government’s review and use of records at the center of an ongoing criminal and national security investigation.”
This is the crux of the matter. Indicting President Trump.
SPIT.
The PRA of course does not seek to establish “claim of privilege,” because that was never its purpose. But The United States Constitution does, in specific reference to one man whom “The Swamp™” still refuses to acknowledge as having ever been a legitimate Officeholder.
“Hillary really won. Please tell me it was just a bad dream. Hillary won … because she was supposed to …”
As confirmed in Navy v. Eagan, the Constitution itself grants a supreme “claim of privilege” to exactly one person on earth. The power to classify and to declassify, completely ignoring the “rules” which apply to everyone else … including them.
“Chuck Norris does not have to follow the rules. Chuck Norris is the rules.”
Thank you for this citation and the Norris reference. Both are fitting .
😏
Of course the FBI are in panic. Their sources are FAKE and their methods are illegal! These people are so corrupt!
Let’s hope they’re all shtn rubber five cent pieces. All of them, not just the thugs with the college degrees and the foul smelling judges bound for eternal judgment but the dull tools of law unenforcement and the entitled within the political class the arrogant and defiled in the medical profession, the rotten greedy women and men of the news industry and in particular the leaders of the apostate Church teaching the doctrines of men as the word of God.
To use a movie metaphor “The Legend of 1900″and the one simple line at the climax. “You asked for it a******”
The FBI is running all over and seizing phones because they cannot legally use the NSA Database for a Criminal Investigation, UNLESS, they have a FISA Warrant. So, they are having to convince judges to grant them criminal warrants in order to seize their phones. At least, that is the way it is SUPPOSED to work.
When this is all said and done, this boils down to the illegal use of the NSA Database for political purposes. That is what the DOJ-NSD is hiding and that is what the FBI is hiding.
The FBI allowed Hillary Clinton’s research goons to use the FISA Database to spy on Trump back in 2015-2016. ILLEGAL. They concocted the Russia fantasy, complete with FISA warrants to try and “back date” their illegal activity. That is what this is all about. They broke the law on a MASSIVE scale to try and track Trump by spying on him, then get him removed from office. The further they went, the more lies they had to tell and the more corrupt the DOJ-NSD and FBI became.
A full, unredacted copy of the Collyer Report would expose virtually the entire scheme. From that one document, the majority of the players would be identified and the scope of their illegal actions revealed.
and full unredacted version of the Inspector General report would reveal spies the FBI had in the Trump campaign.
I think pence and christie are possibilities.
Sundance: Are you aware that the CTH Twitter page is down or off line? I just tried to access it and it does not load.
It’s working for me Ghost…
Ok, I will retry to load the page. Thanks!
Ad rem: I am able to access last refuge 2 on twitter now
NYT article:
Durham Inquiry Appears to Wind Down as Grand Jury ExpiresThe special counsel appointed by the Trump administration to examine the Russia investigation seems to be wrapping up its work with no further charges in store.
Now Mr. Durham appears to be winding down his three-year inquiry without anything close to the results Mr. Trump was seeking. The grand jury that Mr. Durham has recently used to hear evidence has expired, and while he could convene another, there are currently no plans to do so, three people familiar with the matter said.
Mr. Durham and his team are working to complete a final report by the end of the year, they said, and one of the lead prosecutors on his team is leaving for a job with a prominent law firm.
Wishful thinking or true?
https://archive.ph/HooxW link that gets around the firewall
Here’s an accurate summation by Sundance on the Durham Cow Palace:
I think the FBI wrote the lies they wanted Danchenko to mouth back to them, just like they wrote the School Boards letter on terrorist parents. And now he’s their scapegoat.
Just like they wrote the Chris Steele Russian hoax.
NYT is always full of malarkey. Durham made it clear inSussman Pleadings he’s already indicted many by the grand jury and extended the statute of limitations. NUTs are also probably saying it is because a number of their journalists got caught up the lies and colluded. Lets see where this goes.
“sources and methods”
Pray tell, you xcatly what would those be?
Lying to FISA judges?
Paying disgraced MI6 operatives for fairytales?
Entrapment?
Sources, Methods and Actions. It’s one thing to have the Sources, and it’s another thing to have the Methods, but without Actions does it mean anything?
Meet the first Action or Domino – They must prevent confirmation of this Action from being confirmed
Part 1 – July 31st, 2016
Patel makes it clear that Andrew McCabe and Peter Strzok knew — before Crossfire Hurricane was opened in July 31st, 2016— that the Trump-Russia story was full of lies paid for by the DNC and Hillary’s campaign.
Peter Strzok wrote the July 31st, 2016, “Electronic Communication” that originated FBI operation “Crossfire Hurricane.” Strzok immediately used that EC to travel to London to debrief allied intelligence officials.
Part 1.1 – July 2016
John Brennan warning President Obama in July 2016 that the Clinton campaign was effectively fabricating a Russia-Trump conspiracy theory.
One would have thought that the FBI and DoJ anti-Americans would be content with their government perks and gold plated health insurance and pensions. But no, their ideology makes them want to destroy capitalism. Igor Danchenko and Hilary won.
What is the virtue test that allows those in the IC to see “sources and methods” but excludes a special master?
All of BagPipes Barr & Durban’s efforts to “protect the institution” keep getting shot down by the institution’s own bullets.
I love a circular firing squad.
Auto correct prefers Durban to Durham… that speaks loudly to its inherent biases.
Kash Patel is directly calling out Fiona Hill.
https://www.fightwithkash.com/
No longer do I have any faith or trust in any agency of DC. Still can’t believe there are that many liars in a small area, but DeeCee is swimming in lies. .what a joke they have become, they should be disbanded.
Its a satanic city filled with satanic statues and symbols it should be sunk undet the potomac. I’ve been there once, was the worst trip of my life. Any good souls should get out before God’s complete wrath destroys the foreign country’s capitol of evil.
Outside of Rome is DC also a city on seven hills? It seems that in my youth I heard it referred to as that but cannot find out if this information is true or not. Does anyone on CTH know?
Eliminate the “sources & methods” BS gambit and the entire Deep State’s rotten fetid corpse from hell is exposed.
Fat chance that happens.
“What’s more amazing is Barr was just…the Democrats’ hero selling his book…now they’ve quickly turned on him.
What may not be obvious is under the allegations that our FBI knowingly did not have probable cause when applying for the first fisa warrants on carter page, you would think the FBI would absolutely love to release all the data of their sources and methods in an effort to regain respect and integrity.
Not when respect and integrity are the furthest from their little minds.
Makes one wonder if it is really Barrack Obama and his league of puppets(Erik Holder, Susan Rice, Valery Jarrett, David Axelrod)who are really running the show. Remember when Frank Marshall Davis tutored young Barrack in Hawaii and then proceeded to move to Chicago to start the Communist Party there. The Jarrett family and the Axelrod family were the nucleolus in which he built the Communist Party from. The Alinsky Rules for Radicals now comes into play as Obama comes into the picture and adds the former mentioned persons to his fold. They proceeded to corrupt the CIA,FBI and NSD and blackmailed them to where they are now in complete control so they think. They weren’t counting on Trump to come in and spoil all their plans! If they try to strike down the MAGA movement, we will only come back stronger. When cold hard anger sets in the dominos will start to fall! Barrack Obama you have met your match, light always overcomes darkness.
The DOJ/FBI worms are squirming big time
POTUS Trump did catch them all. I pray for his safety. His (our) enemies have no problem with murder when it suits them.
I don’t know if the records Garland’s Goons are freaking out about which President Trump may – or may not – have will answer any of the questions below, but I think WE ARE ENTITLED TO ANSWERS FROM SOMEBODY——
We never found out who the people were (and how many there were) illegally spied on via the Carter Page FISA surveillance.
We never found out who was using Samantha Powers credentials to unmask the identities of Gen. Flynn and other Americans the 0bama Regime was looking into – which Powers denied doing herself.
We never found out who really sent that Russian Attorney chick to meet with Don, Jr., Manafort et. al. in the Trump Tower attempted set up.
We never found out what Joseph Mifsud told Bill Barr in their meeting in Rome or the disposition of the tape recording.
We never found out the disposition of that $10K delivered to Papadopolus which had all indications of being entrapment bait planted by the FBI.
etc.
etc.
The Intelligece Community consists of men and women. Why are we expected to suppose the special master is less competent than the men and women of the intelligence community who fabricate rumors and leak secrets to the press?
They will, no doubt, get judge Cannon to come around to seeing things their way.
What if the Special Master confirms that “Crossfire Hurricane”?
The link below to an article is a most comprehensive account of the six year effort to target Trump and anyone within one degree of separation of him. It’s lengthy, but worth reading and sharing.
This sub-stack article is about the Rule of Law and why the Rule of Law should matter to you, as the fate of this great nation is in our collective hands on November 8.
https://jseaman.substack.com/p/the-big-lie-theory-why-the-rule-of?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=direct
Let’s assume strictly for purposes of argument that the Republicans take the House of Representatives in the 2022 mid-terms. (IMHO, it is far from certain this will happen. But it might.)
What would be really fun and exciting would be for a Republican controlled oversight committee in the House to issue a subpoena in late January, 2023, to both President Trump and to the DOJ for copies of all of the documents taken in the Mar-a-Lago raid.
So if President Trump still has copies somewhere of what the FBI took, he would have to make copies of those copies and hand them over to the Congress or else face a contempt of Congress citation. It is fairly obvious PDJT would be more than happy to comply, if he was legally in a position to do so.
One way the DOJ might head this off would be to reclassify the documents thus effectively overruling President Trump’s original declassification decision. Another way would be to claim that the documents are pertinent to an ongoing investigation and cannot be publicly disclosed either to a Congressional committee or to anyone else.
If President Trump eagerly complied with a Congressional subpoena for copies of his copies, and handed those copies over to the Congress, then the DOJ would charge him with revealing classified information. The DOJ would also charge him with obstruction of justice. These charges would be complete BS, but this is how lawfare operates.
One way or another, President Trump will be indicted on some number of phony charges. The only question at this point is when it will happen, before the mid-terms or after, and what the specific charges will be. What would be even more fun and exciting after January 2023 would be for a Republican House majority to appoint him as Speaker of the House while he was under indictment from Biden’s DOJ.
Just a freindly reminder to you that historically the house changes first term mid term. But that is not taking into consideration a president who has no mental faculties, and one who its obviously at war with half the voting citizens? Talk to someone outside the beltway and ask if they are on the fence about the destruction of the country at warp speed currently taking place?
There is nothing they do at this point that most of America doesn’t understand. Garland should have gone with his gut, if he has one, to decline to get involved further in Biden’s absolute corruption. At this point he’s in for the selling of whatever soul he has left. Thank the lord Jesus Garland never got on the court! Can you imagine?
That little toad is happily going on with this nonsense precisely because he never got on the court.
Prove to any liberal they are wrong and you would see the same reaction. Bitter and vile.
I think Garland was up for this from the git go, just had for rational human beings to understand the level of TDS that Biden represents. Biden was always a low IQ snake, the guy has always done the sideways smile proceeding bile coming from his pie hole. From low IQ to no IQ
Can this set of facts and interpretation be tied together with the legal argument presented today in Coffee & Covid?
Just wondering… Seems the DOJ etal is too “smart”for reality?
I really stop giggling at this point
None of it makes sense. Why did they wait 18 months? They had to know, if not assume, that Trump had both hard and digital copies of the critical documents. So, other than pre-election optics, the purpose of the raid remains unclear. Why conduct a raid to retrieve documents that Trump has possessed for 18 months knowing he likely had other copies. Standard law firm procedure (even for very small firms) with client documents. 1. Parellel hard copy file, both files continually updated as new documents or work product added. 2. Digital copy stored on a server on site. 3. Digital copy stored on a secure server offsite, auto updated nightly.
It is unthinkable that Trump doesn’t have multiple copies.
Something doesn’t smell right…
In my opinion, it leads back to his lawsuit against Hillary, et. al.. It was a venue in which he could have provided these documents as evidence in support of his claims.
Regardless of whether a leftist judge dismissed the suit, I think the DOJ finally decided they could no longer take the chance of the documents becoming public.
VSGPDJT probably purposely stated in a phone message that he was thinking of releasing these documents for pre-election use in the MAGA favor and the DOJ intercepted in their DARPA intelligence gathering this message and they went berserk. Didn’t PDJT say one time that he likes a good fight? Why not start one on purpose with your own game plan fully planned out?
When the FBI-DOJ-Intel community talks about protecting sources and methods they are talking about corrupt sources and illegal methods.
The audacity is breathtaking. Now, behind the scenes whatever dirt they have on this judged will be leveraged to get him to see things their way. Clearly, this is a blatant attempt to use the cover of law to hide criminal activity. Sooner or later somebody has to stand up to them and for the constitution and end this madness before the country collapses.
IMO This adds a new meaning to “Sources and Methods”.
Crimes and their Cover up ?