To accept a bigger picture is often to accept the foundation of what is present is not what it appears.
Recently a Florida judge dismissed the lawsuit brought by President Trump against Hillary Clinton. [65-page Ruling Here] The media have enjoyed ridiculing Trump by using the words of the judge who dismissed the case. As noted by the Washington Times, “Judge Donald M. Middlebrooks, a Clinton appointee, said Mr. Trump’s filing was too lengthy, detailing events that “are implausible because they lack any specific allegations which might provide factual support for the conclusions reached.”
Pay attention to the framework underpinning Middlebooks’ opinion. I have been reluctant to write about the decision to dismiss the lawsuit of President Trump against a multitude of conspirators, including Hillary Clinton, for two reasons.
First, because when I originally read the 108-page lawsuit filed in March, it took me a few moments, and then I realized this was not a lawsuit; this was a legal transfer mechanism created by lawyers to establish a proprietary information silo. Second, because I do not want another ridiculous subpoena from DC simply because they can’t fathom how any outside entity could solve a puzzle without insider assistance. As to the former, I have prayed on it and come to the opinion it’s worth sharing. As to the latter, it’s just another waste of taxpayer funds, but whatever – the truth has no agenda.
So, here’s a totally different take on the issues surrounding the Trump -v- Clinton lawsuit, which -from the outset- I always believed was going to be dismissed because suing all of those characters under the auspices of a civil RICO case was never the objective. However, in the aftermath, the silo created by the lawsuit is also grounded upon attorney-client privilege, a legal countermeasure to a predictable DOJ-NSD lawfare maneuver, which unfolded in the Mar-a-Lago raid and ongoing issues.
In March 2022 President Trump filed a civil lawsuit against: Hillary Clinton, Hillary for America Campaign Committee, DNC, DNC Services Corp, Perkins Coie, Michael Sussmann, Marc Elias, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Charles Dolan, Jake Sullivan, John Podesta, Robby Mook, Phillipe Reines as well as Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, Peter Fritsch, Nellie Ohr, Bruce Ohr, Orbis Business Intelligence, Christopher Steele, Igor Danchenko, Neustar Inc., Rodney Joffe, James Comey Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Kevin Clinesmith and Andrew McCabe. [108-Page Lawsuit Here]
When I was about one-third of the way through reading the lawsuit, I initially stopped and said to myself this is going to take a lot of documentary evidence to back up the claims in the assertions. Dozens of attachments would be needed and hundreds of citations to the dozens of attachments would be mandatory. Except, they were not there.
After reading further, while completely understanding the background material that was being described in the filing, I realized this wasn’t a lawsuit per se’. The 108-pages I was holding in my hands was more akin to legal transfer mechanism from President Trump to lawyers who needed it. The filing was contingent upon a series of documents that would be needed to support the claims within it.
Whoever wrote the lawsuit had obviously reviewed the evidence to support the filing. However, the attachments and citations were missing. That was weird. That’s when I realized the purpose of the lawsuit. In hindsight, things became clear when the DOJ-NSD raided the home of Donald Trump, and suddenly the motive to confiscate the documents that would be the missing lawsuit attachments and citations surfaced.
With the manipulative, and I say intentional, “ongoing investigation” angle of the John Durham probe essentially blocking public release of declassified documents showing the efforts of all the lawsuit participants (Trump-Russia Collusion Hoax), President Trump needed a legal way to secure and more importantly share the evidence.
Think of it like the people around Trump wanting to show lawyers the evidence in the documents. However, because of the construct of the lawfare being deployed against Trump, any lawyer would need a *reason* to review the evidence. The Trump -v- Clinton et al lawsuit becomes that ‘reason.’
The “documents” (classified or not) are reviewed by lawyers in preparation for the lawsuit. This is their legal justification for reviewing the documents. In essence, the lawsuit is a transfer mechanism permitting the Trump legal team to review the evidence on behalf of their client, former President Donald Trump.
Once the formation of the lawsuit is established, the retainer and acceptance of the lawyers to represent their client cemented, the legal counsel, discussion and information within legal duties/obligations of those who represent the plaintiff (Trump) becomes an information silo. In addition to previous executive privilege established by President Trump himself; outside government there is now another silo to defend against the motives of the Lawfare crew (DOJ), the attorney-client privilege.
The lawsuit itself is the transfer mechanism permitting sharing of the documents and providing legal cover for the reviewers (lawyers). The details within the 108-page filing constitute the claims of the plaintiff in the lawsuit, which were established by the evidentiary documents later seized by the DOJ and FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago.
“Judge Donald M. Middlebrooks, a Clinton appointee, said Mr. Trump’s filing was too lengthy, detailing events that “are implausible because they lack any specific allegations which might provide factual support for the conclusions reached.”
There were no attachments and/or citations to the documentary evidence in the 108-page filing, because there was a legal risk to citing evidence with a status in dispute by the corrupt people in Main Justice and the FBI. Secondarily, there was an obstruction risk to the President, if his legal team was to publish citations that were part of an ongoing investigation (Durham). However, this doesn’t negate the value of constructing the information silo, an attorney-client privilege.
If the documents seized by the FBI were part of the lawsuit established by President Trump and his legal team via Trump -v- Clinton, then the material seized is all attorney client work product. Lawfully obtained, constitutionally declassified and legally protected material.
This is where the ‘special master’ will play a key role.
Keep watching.
I hope the people representing Trump know what they’re doing.
So much on the line.
At what point have his lawyers ever not screwed him? Honestly, is there even one example?
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QUESTION:
Ok, Sundance, so has this “information silo” been established?
And copies of the documents provided to PresTrump’s attorneys?
(despite not being filed with the lawsuit)
Or did FBI seize the sole copy of the documents?
related question:
Does dismissal of the RICO lawsuit crush any further attempt at public release of the damning information that was to be used in the lawsuit?
That is: Has FBI/DOJ indeed successfully ‘thrown a blanket’ over the entire body of evidence?
Will the ‘Special Master’ rule that no one has a need to view ANYTHING now that the lawsuit has been dismissed and that it is all ‘moot’?
Indeed.
Keep watching.
Whilst trying to avoid chewing one’s fingernails to the bone.
I think this answers our questions in that regard, Nim…
“The lawsuit itself (Clinton) is the transfer mechanism permitting sharing of the documents and providing legal cover for the reviewers (lawyers).
The details within the 108-page filing constitute the claims of the plaintiff in the lawsuit, which were established by the evidentiary documents later seized by the DOJ and FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago.”
Perhaps, recent raids are an attempt to find others outside the Attorney/Client – Classified silos, who may have independently put 2+2 together (sans the classified or privileged info) contained within the “evidentiary documents”.
… 🤔
…”simply because they can’t fathom how any outside entity could solve a puzzle without insider assistance.”
Trump Lawyers would not write such a detailed lawsuit, with very specific allegations and crimes unless they saw and have the evidence in their possession. Otherwise their reputations would be on the line. They definitely have the evidence and it is in a safe location.
thanks, Blue Seas, that sounds like a knowledgeable and informed answer
President Trump is ultimately ‘calling the shots’; and I have faith he knows what he is doing.
An foolish client, ignorant of the law, is a passive client who lets his lawyer call the shots (and frequently gets badly burned) like Gen. Flynn with his first attorneys.
A SMART client realises his lawyers advice is just that; its an OPINION, and win or lose, the lawyer gets paid, whereas win or lose detirmines where the client sleeps.
So, the EDUCATE themselves on the law, listen to advice but THEY call the plays; like a coach, with the lawyer as quarterback,…say much as Cohen did.
I know many hate Cohen, but given the situation he was in, he navigated the situation with dexterity, and I have no doubt it wasn’t his lawyer, but the client that was doing the navigating.
Interesting take, maybe explains Trumps mostly calm reaction to the raid and subsequent banter from the FBI and DOJ. Thanks for sharing Sundance.
One has to wonder if the FBI got all copies of the documents in question, or if there’s a deadman switch stashed somewhere…
I doubt they got what they were looking for.
With this explanation by Sundance, it explains the subpoenas to 35 of President Trumps close associates.
I have a hard time believing that DJT with all his reasons not to trust anyone, would have his only copies out in the open where someone raiding his house would know where they were.
But then sometimes I think this whole thing, everything, is a charade, including the hope porn.
All I know is the country I knew as a child, that I learned about in history books, that enabled my ancestors to thrive in freedom, seek God, and bless others — is crumbling to the ground and we are more and more becoming slaves, with our hard earned money supporting a cause that is not of God.
Sundance
Thank you, this is one of your best articles and everyone needs to read
TEA
It’s also the first I’ve heard/read about SD getting a subpeona… unless I missed that discussion previously.
He’s mentioned it.
“Second, because I do not want another ridiculous subpoena from DC simply because they can’t fathom how any outside entity could solve a puzzle without insider assistance.”
Yeah. First I have heard too.
I read here several times a day and I had never heard this before.
Same here.
I think it happened about the same time we had to change from Word Press
Great quote by Sundance.
yeah, first I hear of that also even though I do try to come here more than once a week. the way SD said that reminded me of a Tom Clancy story where the EFF-BEE-LIE came to visit the successful spy novel writer at his home in NJ to question him how he knew so many details and “secrets” of State. He answer was simple enough: the library. He just did his homework and knew how to put details together.
PS – what kind of bird is that flying above the fox?
One bird to consider would be the crow, from Aesop’s fable.
The fox wants something in both pictures, and follows ways to find that something.
Looks like a magpie to me. 😉
Not the right color, but should have been a mockingbird 😉
SD was part of a group of people summoned in the Summer of 2020. I seem to remember blog posts in the July/August time frame. The initial posts were optimistic; however, as time progressed he realized the investigators were too siloed and the group was responsible for connecting the dots for them. After seeing no one saw the basic facts, SD came to the conclusion the independent investigation was a waste of time.
That was a self-initiated solo mission pursued after consultation with this here mob itself.
The summoning bit was subsequent to that, though I haven’t many details to offer I know that Sundance successfully evaded efforts to complicate his work.
So that’s why there have been stories about the FBI planning more raids on Trump. They apparently didn’t get what they were looking for. The DOJ and Lawfare playing their little games have forgotten they are not playing solitaire.
This will be very interesting.
Checkmate!
Exactly
Retired Magistrate here: When do you find time to sleep? That is why the DOJ is fighting so hard to reject a “special master” being appointed.
My husband and I keep praying for wisdom and protection for President Trump and his attorneys. We will now add you to our prayer list. Thank you for all you do.
I pray to for Sundance and all involved in TCT. I was especially concerned when I read that the FBI was raiding/subpoena 35 + PDJT supporters and was praying that they leave our investigative penned warrior alone!! The criminality and two tiers of Justice must 🛑
We here must be in “it” for the long haul too. These issues demand our attention. Our efforts to inform others to the severity of the situation must continue.
Each person is one person, no greater or lessor than another. Money or position matters little in this task before us. We each add to each other and thus increase our strength.
Facing an enemy may seem difficult, and is, but together we are stronger and enriched.
Grow locally – Unite nationally.
Crafty. Make the everything A-C privilege. I hope it works.
Indeed, while the information is far from being released into the wild, it is in many more minds now, harder to extinguish, and surely they’ve thought many more steps ahead.
Pray for PDJT and Sundance.
A post like this is one of the the reasons we are all here…
Thank you, SD!
Word!
Man! (Had to)
😉
YES !!!
Absolutely!
Right you are Wordman
I believe the 35 Trump associates were raided by the FIB because they didn’t find the Russiagate documents they were looking for at Mar-a-lago, and now they’re desperately hunting for them.
I THINK that is being used to intimidate any associating themselves with PDJT, …OR questioning the election results.
And maybe its an “in for a penny, in for a pound” i.e. since they raided MAL, and took the flac, they have nothing to lose?
No. That’s just the conventional wisdom from the pundit class who can’t put 2 and 2 together.
Perhaps Mr. Snowden has copies …. how deliciously ironic that would be.
Ok, don’t get mad but what if Bill Barr has the documents and is saying all these anti-Trump things to ensure he won’t get raided? Wouldn’t that be a strange twist?
It ain’t over till the fat bagpipes man plays…
Are you implying Barr is one of the White Hats? I sincerely don’t think so. He is part of the crooked DOJ/FBI club and goes way back with them. Remember he was on the defense team for the FBI in the aftermath of the Ruby Ridge entrapment and murders. We have the same lead players involved with Barr then involved in today’s criminal activity: Clapper, Brennan, Comey. No one ever suffered any consequences for Ruby Ridge and instead they got promotions. Barr is a very bad dude and one wonders how Trump could have EVER appointed him AG. But then Trump was new to his role in politics and got bad advice about a lot of his appointees. Barr had us all fooled for a while.
Remember that Barr knifed the country in the back, refusing to look into any of the 2020 election fraud and helping the Biden Regime cover this up. As such, it is certainly no surprise that he is defending the FBI’s outrageous raid on MAL now. IMO, incriminating correspondence between Barr and the FBI is likely to also be in documents the FBI/DOJ are hunting and not wanting the public to see.
Not implying anything. Just remarking that it would be a strange plot twist.
Barr and Pence both turned out to be cowards.
Not cowards–traitors to this country and the US Constitution. They are both akin to Judas in my mind.
They both have defiled the goodness of their part in their roles as protectors and light-bearers in this Republic. They spat on the law and they spat in the faces of every American who voted in 2020.
If Mr. Barr is that scared then someone needs to do one of those black and white drawings of a scaredy cat and put Mr. Barr’s face, and heft, to it! Meme-makers could have a field day!
Whatever you do, don’t mention that a whole bunch of us trusted Trump supporters have copies of the stuff the FBI is trying to find in their little “raids”. Remember Julian releasing the encrypted “insurance policy”? Yeah, something like that. So they’re gonna have to raid thousands and thousands of homes and offices and storage units to find it all. But like I say… don’t tell anyone. This is double-top-secret information! Shhhh!!!
FIB = Freakin’ Imbeciles Bedraggled.
Fake Investigation bureaucracy
You may be correct that they were hoping to find out if Trump had shared copies of top-secret Russia Collusion documents with his attorneys or political allies. However it seems that Trump surely knew they would do this and would have been more careful than that.
For the FBI however, this whole raid thing is a twofer, for even if they came up empty, there’s now an inference of guilt hanging over the subjects of the raids that increases the inferred guilt of Trump as well. Smearing Trump is part of their game as well.
Smearing/muddying up Trump IS the game. This is typical behavior for the Dems and the Swampers, make your opponents politically toxic enough to sway the court of public opinion.
Do we know who the 35 were?
Very interesting.
I hope Sundance’s instinct on this one is correct, as usual.
I do, however, have concerns that the DOJ will ignore attorney client privilege (they have raided Trump lawyers in the past). So, I hope the attorneys have these documents in a safe unfindable location.
This definitely makes things curious. The timing of the FBI initial visit, the add on to the Rico lawsuit of prominent names followed by the FBI raid, etc.
Durham needs to piss or get off the pot.
There needs to be some event that puts public pressure on the DOJ/FBI to release those declassified documents to the public.
you are either new here or not paying attention….Durham is a DUPE…..a PLOY…..it is an OPEN investigation so documents related to the illegal surveillance of PDJT and his associates cannot be substantiated by facts because the release of the documents presenting them is now OBSTRUCTION of JUSTICE
The other aspect of the Durham situation is that he has to report to the AG Garland. Would Garland prosecute anyone Durham exposed? Brings to mind a Bill Barr interview (60 Minutes?) when he was asked how history would record the hoax against Trump. His reply was that it depended on who won the election. Was he more than bondo to cover up institutional misbehavior? Was he in on the steal from the beginning, not just after the fact?
Durham needs to piss or get off the pot.
What are you talking about?
Durham’s installed to do precisely NOT that
This. 100%
There needs to be some event that puts public pressure on the DOJ/FBI to release those declassified documents to the public.
Agree, although I have no idea what it would be. Those charged with administering justice are instead obstructing it, making them co-conspirators in depriving this country of the services of their offices. Loss of credibility? Like the NIH, CDC and FDA have lost theirs? Yet, they remain…
Maybe Trump sees a way forward here. It always seems like he needs a series of Hail Marys and all they have to do is obstruct.
classification
national security risk
these are the two main METHODS USED by the DOJ (and most all other IC and deep state institutions, up to and including the military and Congress (read house AND senate “intelligence oversight committees), to perform a myriad of strategic and tactical legal fences, which are:
it is basically this: this information is so important to national security that anyone openly discussing it, or even indirectly illuminating a different non state narrative, triggers an immediate IC secret police state set of laws and the wheels of DIS-Justice is unleashed. WE control the narrative because the narrative is so “sensitive”. Anyone stepping outside the lines we have dropped around certain events and state approved “facts” will be met with the most powerful efforts of US law: the application of very special penalties of criminality (natsec).
meanwhile, fat leonard, likely the most prolific center piece involving the highest levels of corruption within the last 30 years with military contracts, just walks out of his house (under house arrest, pending his sentencing), and no one at the FBI/DOJ seems to care too much. Nor are there any serious consequences for the tens of millions of dollars of under the table racketeering and bid rigging that went on at the highest level of military intelligence and leadership.
to illustrate, in just one single instance, where the focus of the entire US intelligence components are aimed not toward actual criminals, but of using the resources for purely political end games and to insulate said agencies from many years of provable criminality.
God Bless America
Thank you; this does make wonderful sense.
I have goosebumps.
You sir are a savant!
Inspired to boot.
I would love to see Weissmann and Norm Eisen have their arses handed to them.
There is a delicious make-them-follow-their-own-rules aspect.
Show the public what the Alinksy side is doing and let them come to the inescapable conclusions.
That will the first of many great civics lessons on the way to restoration of the republic.
Rules for Radicals..
RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
Will there be an appeal or is the silo constructed?
If so, it would be Eleventh Circuit –
Delicious!!
ou.
Ou quoi?
I wonder if they’ll appeal, file a motion under seal laying out some of the evidence to establish a probability of prevailing on at least one count. The 11th Circuit can issue their ruling Ordering the Matter Stayed/ over turning the dismissal but Staying the suit under seal as to which time the Durham investigation ends it can be released. The lawsuit was filed within the statute of limitations and therefore will continue after the stay is lifted upon the time of the Durham investigation ending.
Again….
That would make his legal residence move to Florida a chess move.
🎯
That’s what it seems like to me.
To an unassailable postion…
He owns property in Florida.
I’m not signing up to become a member in order to be able to read the article, but over at something called law.com headline says Trump vows to appeal dismissal of RICO lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and democrats, if one is so inclined to look it up, or already a member of that site.
So yes, there will be an appeal of the dismissal of the RICO lawsuit.
I’ve seen two very good business owners in the past that reluctantly had to use the courts, and was fortunate to see that once the battle commenced they relished, and actually thrived, playing the game of law against those that thought to take advantage of these business owners. Also learned the safest place is to be in the audience, and watch it unfold, so also understand Sundance’s reluctance to get caught up within the coming battle.
I do believe President Trump and his good friends (his lawyers and those working with them behind the scenes) are of that same temperament.
I sit with jaw agape. How do you do it?
All the days of the afflicted are evil, But he who is of a merry heart has a continual feast.
Impressive, in both your explanation, Sundance and the construct/strategy by Trump and his lawyers.
Thanks, I needed a good dose of hopium today (just as long as it’s not laced with fentanyl).
I hope this isn’t just rationalization.
But it’s the first thing I have read in awhile that gave me a smidgen of hope.
You know, Hillary Clinton has in the past weaponized attorney-client privilege, for the purpose of lying and obstructing.
Now President Trump is using attorney-client privilege to preserve and bring to light the truth, and to side-step the obstruction nonsense.
The filing likely tolled Federal and State statutes of limitation for fraud, conspiracy to commit fraud.
Never underestimate President Trump. He might just beat Deep State over their massive fraud.
What makes this SD piece so believable is the fact of the missing citations and attachments not being included in the RICO lawsuit filing. I can’t think of any other reason to exclude them.
I think another interesting development was the unprcedented step of the DOJ ‘stepping up’ and effectively putting themselves “in the dock” by seeking to be named as defendants.
Thats bizarre, really.
So they could use discovery to see the documents and then decided a raid was easier?
The DNC lawfare HQ office utilized a FBI-NSA computer. Maybe they still do.
I would guess the NSA archives have all the Klintonworld, Obama-Whitehouse-Iran, Obama-Spygate, and DNC Election Fraud comms. (And NIH Covid comms incidentally).
Is it legally possible, given a severe Constitutional crisis, that a Federal Judge could access NSA archives? Is NSA archive access (and funny money FISC court fraud) only available to the DNC / DOJ crew?
Amazon Prime probably has the docs ( sarc).
I am no lawyer by any stretch….but it would seem to me that the “omissions” of” evidence” and “citations” for a lawsuit….is the sort of thing that even a fresh out of law school lawyer would not do?
If such were omitted it were done with purpose.
It wasn’t in error, as Sundance suggested, there was legal risk to including them, the Cabal could have exploited that to the detriment of all PDJT still hopes to do for this imperiled nation.
In fact, one might consider that an inexperienced law professional would be all the more likely to seek to support their conclusions with all the references available to them, not yet having discovered for themselves the pitfalls of duh real world and the Derp State.
WOW! Amazing. President Trump is two or three steps ahead of the game.
I would never have considered this or reasoned it out. Thank you for your deep understanding and for sharing it with us. I am still saying this is amazing.
I share CTH as often as circumstance permits, and I have yet to subsequently open CTH to not discover yet another epic insight and dissertation that I earnestly pray the recipient of my referral reads, knowing that they will profit mightily from his wisdom as well as this amazingly sane and decent community as we all have.
It is indeed amazing.
Well, after reading this masterful expose’ of strategies, I think we can also safely conclude, the Federal Bureau of Incompetents did not find the golden ticket at MAL.
And it explains why they searched Melania’s and Barron’s sock drawers.
So, seems the ULTIMATE goal is to enable PDJT to release these documents “to the public,” while doing so in a way that he can’t be charged for “Obstruction of Justice” due to ongoing, never ending Durham investigation.
I know I and many of us are still confused by this; setting aside that Durham IS a smokescreen the purpose of which is to provide this predicate, “play it out”; PDJT releases the documents, and is promptly charged with “Obstruction of Justice” pleads not guilty and is tried in court.
Seems like, in proving the “elements of the crime” the prosecution would have to prove INTENT, …
AND that the release of the documents HAD actually interfered with Durhams ability to prosecute, in some way.
The potential defendants all KNOW whats IN the documents; THEY CREATED THEM.
In addition, its NOT like PDJT is trying to obstruct justice by making it impossible to prosecute these people, they were targeting HIM.
So, I find it difficult to understand how releasing the Documents opens him up to charges of “Obstructing Justice” and so the threat prevents him from doing so.
Overall, his bringing this lawsuit, and (perhaps) triggering the raid, in and of itself is drawing a LOT of attention, PUBLIC attention, that I should think DOJ-NSD doesn’t want.
The issue of declassification has been “asked and answered”, the issue of ‘personal papers vs gov documents’ and Biden waiving PDJT’d Executive priviledge WILL be answered in PDJT’s favor, as a result of the raid and aftermath.
I still don’t see any “downside” for PDJT, and I already see numerous “downsides” for the idiots, hence I do not see their actions as acting with impunity, rather as acting out of DESPERATION.
I’m laughing at you Billy “Bagpipes” Barr as your carefully constructed Durham obstruction is cleverly bypassed by the man you’ve spent so much time denigrating.
Who’s the idiot now, Billy?
(Sorry just had to maybe prematurely gloat. I despise liars, and Bill Barr is one of the most duplicitous)
This also explains why Barr has had a burr up his ass for a while. He thought he had this thing all tied up, that no way Americans would see the unredacted portions of those unclassified docs.
It’s why he was sent to be AG for Trump in the first place.
“ULTIMATE goal is to enable PDJT to release these documents “to the public,” “
This deceit has been dragged out for decades with intense, relentless manipulation of public opinion. The illusion is so grand and so layered that the only way to expose it as such is to rip it wide open – let America see and smell the putrid rot of the cesspool we call DC.
That’s an excellent take. So, maybe when the Trump team added an addendum to the original suit, they expected a raid and wanted to get more documents under the attorney client privilege.
Why would the FBI raid Trump, the top guy, and then raid his underlings after. Usually, it’s the other way around. I thought about this and it hit me: The FBI is desperate to find something, and they thought Trump had it. When it turned out he didn’t, they kept looking. Whatever that document is, the FBI REALLY WANTS IT!
I doubt President Trump came up with the idea, which leads me to believe he has some smart patriotic attorney/attorneys who believe exposing the corrupt cabal is worth the blowback they’ll receive from their peers and all of D.C..
Another: “underestimate DJT at your own peril”…..
BRILLIANT!
I just read this a moment ago:
11,000 documents seized (stolen).
100 had “classification markings, some at the top-secret level”
That’s less than 1%!
Talk about mountains and molehills.
And maybe even talk about 4-D chess again? 🙂
Source: Associated Press
U.S. Government, Trump team propose names for arbiter in search probe.
by: Eric Tucker and Nomaan Merchant
How many of the 100 docs 100 had “classification markings, some at the top-secret level”….in addition to other markings making them “formally known as top secret level” ?
I get them feeling they present 1/2 the info as Lapdog Media sells it.
It’s easier to add the clarification down the road….after the intentional mis-direction and mis-information is sold.
Indeed.
Yet, down the road, it will be less likely clarification than it will be prevarication.
“Set BS filters to maximum!”
Do you feel the same about “2 email chains” containing classified info among 30K Hillary’s emails? Mountains and molehills?
In my opinion, PDJT has the right to keep copies of any documents generated by his administration, being a President and all that. But if they “found” something he (or any other President) has not been LEGALLY authorized to take with him (as per written laws) then one such document should be enough. I mean, so far I haven’t seen any proof such documents have been found but we really cannot know anything until these documents are actually produced and the DOJ proves that a “reasonable prosecutor” must finally wake up and lower his Mythical Hammer of Impartial Justice.
What you say may be true about the number of TS emails on Hillarys serve, but the bigger issue is that the serve itself was illegal.
No I don’t feel the same because the example you cite is nowhere near the same. Hillary deliberately circumvented the law. And Hillary has no constitutional authority to declassify. Your example to mine is apples and oranges. My stand on mountains and molehills remains.
Very interesting take – DOJ will certainly say no attorney /client privilege- no matter what and regardless of what method or technique used – Will be an appealed issue < added to the list ….
Interesting take.
“Keep watching.”
You have my attention.
Brilliant analysis Sundance. It also makes Donald Trump and/or attorneys brilliant. Wow…this makes the lawsuit make sense.
Now, in term of the subpoena SD mentions..SD, is this why you were in DC at some point and came back saying no one knows anything there?
Thanks SD for your courage and committment to the Truth.
“Thanks Michael!
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Sadly I believe that Sundance was subpoenaed by the “honorable”, I mean HORRIBLE J6 committee. Another reason to hit that yellow donate button on the top left corner. God bless TCT and Sundance!
Understand the play here, Sundance, but is this yet another legal mine set by Trump?
Anything that has to be presented in any case officially has to be a consistent unified defensive narrative by the DOJ-FBI. Any official testimony, any finding, any rebuttal with evidence and testimony creates legal jeopardy for the deep state and their lawyers. Lawyers cannot feign ignorance when all these tidbits of truth are everywhere.
A lie has short legs, and the truth will always run it down.
All these lawsuits create greater and greater legal peril, and the deep state will run out of plausible narratives.
This lawsuit could be refiled at any time once more touchpoints of legal evidence are in the court record.
Who does Durham actually work for? Who has the power to just say stop it now.
I believe he answers to the current AG, Merick Garland.
An idea that I have seen floated as a result of Danchenko‘s recent motion to dismiss, is that Durham is forcing the information to get out there, while still “protecting the institution“. Danchenko’s recent filing said the FBI knew the dossier was fake in January 2017.
The only person who can stop Durham is the AG … and he needs good cause to do so.
PART 600 – GENERAL POWERS OF SPECIAL COUNSEL
§ 600.7 Conduct and accountability.
(d) The Special Counsel may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the Attorney General. The Attorney General may remove a Special Counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies. The Attorney General shall inform the Special Counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal.
Link: eCFR :: 28 CFR Part 600 — General Powers of Special Counsel
Hence why Barr protected his cheap paint job man by appointing him as SC.
Despite Durham not meeting the qualifications established for choosing a party outside government.
So basically he could be there for life?
IIRC, and would happily stand corrected if wrong, although Barr didn’t ‘stop’ Meuller, he basically told him to ‘pull his finger out’ and wrap up the investigation as it was going nowhere.
That’s what I was thinking…someone can say end it.
Of course, this is all predicated on the idea that the law will be respected and applied. In our country, that’s a big “if.”
Somebody please tell Kash Patel Durham is not the cavalry any more than Mueller was
KASH, i BELIEVE, Knows about Durham and is Playing the Narrative.
Working for Devin and in DOJ and in DoD – HE KNOWS ” the Theater ” and ALL the parts of THE PLAY by Heart.
( HOPEFULLY, we ARE NOT BEING PLAYED by Him also)
Thank you.
Ahhhhh.
Now could you help us understand how the attorneys having the information serves the grander purpose of sunlight? They can’t do anymore with the information than their client.
Or are you saying all of the information is now protected by attorney client privilege? Thus the possession of the documents by the DOJ/FBI is a violation and shall be returned to President Trump?
But, that just gets us back to the original question of how does this open the culprits up to sunshine so they can be fumigated?
There is a LOT more focus, public attention and *SUNLIGHT* on these documents NOW, than there was 2 months ago.
And NOT just HERE at CTH.
Second, I believe the Judge WILL appoint a SM, and one of those DJT’s team reccomended.
The SM is charged with looking at ALL the documents, and detirmining WHICH are, in fact protected by A/C priviledge, making a LIST of those documents, and submitting it to the Judge.
Its a reccomendation to the Judge, who then issues an ORDER, ordering the DOJ to return those documents to PDJT.
Now, we have a LIST: “302 of interviews if Rosenstien, both Ohrs, etc.”
AND, they are OFFICIAL decalared to be protected by A/C priviledge.
Those things, in themselves are a ‘step forward’, and just derive from the SM appointment, and there is ‘more to come’.
Ok. That makes sense. The itemized list of the entire inventory is what we can hope for.
Perhaps then the over classifications can be challenged for FOIA?
Good insight….when only one side plays by the rules it’s hard to win…
But, not impossible. PDJT has a whole career, both in and out of politics, of beating cheaters.
You think NYC Commercial real estate ‘players’ play by the RULES?
“If the documents seized by the FBI were part of the lawsuit established by President Trump and his legal team via Trump -v- Clinton, then the material seized is all attorney client work product. Lawfully obtained, constitutionally declassified and legally protected material.
This is where the ‘special master’ will play a key role.”
If I understand the above correctly. The Master says you can’t keep the documents DOJ/FBI because they are part of the attorney client work products.
Will the federal judge Barbara Jones be the master?
I submit that the federal judge Barbara Jones has ruled in favor of the CIA before in order to keep a secret for them, and in doing so disqualified herself from acting as a master on the Mar-a-Lago documents.
You see, the Mar-a-Lago documents contains a set of documents dealing with the “Crossfire Hurricane” operation conducted by both the CIA and FBI in July 2016.
It follows that Judge Barbara Jones has shown herself willing to rule in favor of hiding even dates. Reference Valerie Plame Wilson case outlined below.
Aug. 3, 2007
We Reveal the Classified Information the CIA Won’t Let Simon & Schuster Publish
Valerie Plame Wilson, danger to the nation.Photo: Getty Images
In a moronic ruling, federal judge Barbara Jones has ruled in favor of the CIA in the suit brought by the former agent — and center of LibbyGate — Valerie Plame Wilson, and the publisher of her memoir, Simon & Schuster. S&S and Wilson were suing based on the CIA Publications Review Board’s determination that Wilson could not include in her memoir information about the dates of her service at the agency — despite the fact that information has already been entered into the public record and widely reported. The judge ruled that she was convinced by arguments made in a secret CIA letter Wilson and her lawyers weren’t allowed to read that because the CIA had not officially declassified the dates, it was necessary to redact that information from Wilson’s memoir, Fair Game. So basically, even though those dates are on Wikipedia, Wilson can’t include them in her own memoir.
https://www.vulture.com/2007/08/we_reveal_the_classified.html
Brilliant. These people who claim Trump doesn’t have any quality lawyers/researchers on his side are just whistling past the graveyard. So yeah, this is brilliant on the Trump Team’s part… AND on yours, Sundance. I don’t blame the scumbags in DC for trying to subpoena you. “Who IS this Sundance troublemaker?! He knows things he shouldn’t know! Bring him to me… I want to talk to him NOW!”
(And just so you know… my wife, who doesn’t specifically engage directly with us here, still knows everything there is to know about us because I’ve kept her up-to-date over the years. So when I told her about this latest blast of sunlight from you, she basically shrugged as if to say “Yeah, what’s new? Why would you expect anything less?” 🙂 )
Once again, Sundance coming through in spades. Thanks.
This is why Trump brought up Hillary in Pennsylvania. This makes perfect sense. Dang you’re a genius Mr. Sundance.
May the Lord protect you Sir
New Rally on Saturday the 17th, be here for all the fun!
Thanks for the invite, I’ll be here
That would explain the 35 or 50 subpoenas or raids. What ever happened to just telling the truth to the American people? Time to call “national security” nothing more than “institutional cover-up.”
The judge will pick the Democrat donor who will turn everything over to the DOJ.
Hi “Debbie”!
Sundance, I thank God every day for your hard work and perseverance. Just when people start to get angry you come and straighten us out. Thank you for ALL that you do. GODSPEED
The RICO suit is a silo.
One reason I enjoy reading here is SD’s commentary often offers up ‘Voila Moments’, when suddenly a puzzle is solved and events reveal a new significance. When I read it my immediate reaction is, ‘Voila, why of course’.
Mais bien sur!
But if the case was dismissed “without prejudice” can Trump ever try the case again on any or all individuals?
Dismissal is not a “verdict”. Thus, the President can bring suit again (start over), or he can appeal via the 11th Circuit vs the dismissal itself.
Given Sundance’s description of the brief an d that links to evidence were not included, President Trump would actually loose an appeal, so its a new filing and suit or nothing.
No legal mind here, but I’m not so sure that the lack of citations would be an issue.
Might it even be an opening for the introduction of said evidence?
If the judge demands it PDJT cannot be dunned for providing it.
Nope, the appeal has to be on the merits of what ever was presented in the original hearing and on decisions made based on those materials, alone. There will be no opening to present materials unless the Government is dumb enough to open the door, which contrary to popular belief they are not that dumb..desperate, yes…dumb, no.
I agree with Sundance that this would be a great strategic legal move as the only thing sacrificed was the original hearing.President Trump can refile the suit.
They are going to appeal the decision.
Its called Winning.
Must be why Bubble Butt Barr has his Melania panties in a bunch lately. Barr knows who’s coming for all the chickens.
Game of Thrones – The Hound Funniest Moment (Chicken Scene) – YouTube
Makes complete sense, Sundance!
Judge shopping should be eliminated as a legal maneuver. File in any district, and the judge with their name on the list as next, that is the judge you have! Like it or not, by both sides.
Myself, being a victim of this, here is your judge, but two months before the case was to be heard in Federal court, no this is now your new judge. I won’t say much about the case, but it was a class action reverse discrimination case, back in 1994. They fired every white employee and kept on the black employees and every replacement employees were black. The first judge was white the new judge was black. Not hard to figure that one out.
As a side note, the black judge was a traffic court judge ( i should know, because I had to go to his court for a speeding ticket). He was appointed to be a Federal court judge by Billy Boy Clinton, our first black president!
Ouch. My sympathies.
Its a long story!
We all vote to appeal, we are talking over 300 people. And a year and a half later we settled. Once we appealed they figured it was cheaper at that point to offer a settlement. The whole case took over 5 1/2 years, by that time everyone moved on to other jobs, me personally I started a business. We decided to take their severance package, base on last annual salary/benefits and longevity. The majority voted to except the offer. The problem we had was some jobs were part time and none civil service, mine was civil service. So we were out voted.
None got rich, but we did make them pay a price. This was a government job that had ties to private business. A major sports arena. The reason for the hiring of blacks was because they needed money and the ‘OK’ from the government to build infrastructure and the government demand was that they hire blacks, if they want the money.
Ugh.
Read this thoughtfully … The dominoes are falling into place … The Dark Shadow of D.C., Soros, and the DemonICRATS are being further exposed along with the “characters” in the act to destroy America and the Truth. Trump has been and is the Wall to truth and saving America. Keep the faith and always read between the lines. The TRUTH always comes out …
An amazing takeaway Sundance. Thank you for once again being able to see and describe the big picture.
A Trump lawyer friend Peter Ticktin thinks it will b revived in Court of Appeals
I am hoping so.
Every time the Left crows about a Trump defeat I only smile, knowing they so don’t know him.
Peter Ticktin is not only PDJT long-time friend but he is also working for PDJT.
I’ve read his book and watched several of his interviews.
Running their own plays against them. Love to see it.
I’m not sure that actually works? That is, privilege should apply to him talking to his lawyers, but not to the documents he takes to them, which they can seize. Yes, this does seem somewhat odd to me, too, but I understand the standard comes from here:
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/449/383/