After waiting a full media cycle (26 hours) to evaluate the landscape, the team behind Florida Governor Ron DeSantis coordinated an “exclusive interview” with Laura Ingraham to give his opinion on the divisive speech by Joe Biden.
Carefully navigating the political waters to avoid the terms “MAGA republican” or “Trump,” DeSantis gave a down the middle approved republican rebuttal. WATCH:
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nothing like testing the waters to give your “true” stand on an issue /s
Looks like RDS is following the 24-hour rule. Give it a day to gauge public opinion – then BAM! He’s on it!
Courage under fire? Nope, utterly pathetic. WEAK!
We are still waiting for Ron’s ’24 hour’ rebuttal after the raid on President Trump.
Pathetic.
Oh, he posted that one, and quickly.
However, as above (I haven’t watched yet but sundance says so), his response did not mention President Trump by name.
I went through my email last night and found no other responses from any of the RINO establishment. It kind of looks as if they’ve hired DeSantis to be their spokesman for now.
It also kind of looks as if he wants the movement for his own without President Trump’s involvement.
At this point my only conclusion can be that the Club has told him they will be arresting PDJT but they want to make him the replacement. Nothing else makes sense right now.
Continuing watching…
IF the repubs put this guy up…WOWZA…HOWEVER, I do think that PDJT will be the NOMINEE…
DeSantis and Cruz are WANNABES and they do way too much air testing…
THIS country NEEDS leaders and people who put the country first, not this one or the other!!!!!!!
Steps into the Arena after data points established.
He had to wait for his new public relations team, helpfully provided to him by the oligarchy who are desperate to maintain their grip on power in opposition to both Dem communism and Rep civic nationalism, crafted a response for him. Extemporaneous response based on a firm moral foundation is a thing of the past. Watch for more crafted inauthenticity in the months and years ahead.
DeSantis has become almost unrecognizable in less than a month. He looks like an inflatable doll, ironically, the kind used by Beltway drivers to game the HOV occupancy lane rules. Watching someone disintegrate before your eyes is painful.
Or as Emily Dickinson put it, “It dropped so low in my regard, I heard it hit the ground.”
If it was not for the fact he is the RNC’s chosen one, I might vote for him or if the RNC was actually supporting Conservative candidates, I might vote for him.
He IS THEIR chosen one and THEY are not supporting Conservative candidates.
I wont hold my nose anymore.
DeSantis is fast becoming the new “Mike Pence,” to me. I now believe Mike Pence agreed to be Trump’s running mate because the RINOS were telling him behind the scenes that Trump wouldn’t last his full term of office and he’d be President…Then at the last hour after the 2020 election he listened to them again and after publicly stating he was going to fight to be sure “Every legal vote was counted,” he changed his mind and delivered his letter in the middle of Jan 6 without previously telling Trump about the change of heart. RINOS have NO loyalty to anyone but themselves!
You’ve nailed it !
Gop-e and Uniparty shadows
Everyone needs to disown DC and all appendages
Those old enough will remember the WTH moment when Reagan compromised with the Swamp and picked the granddaddy of globalism, George H. Bush, to be his Veep.
H. Bush was extremely dismissive, insulting and arrogant during the primary season and he instituted the uni-party plan the second he was inaugurated, then stepped aside in 1992 for the Moloch couple which really accelerated the rot.
Pence came from the same playbook.
The destroyers may primarily be positioning DeSantis to be the next H. Bush or Pence unless if they can’t win the big prize by driving Trump out of the race.
Please, PDT, do not make the same mistake that Reagan made.
I don’t think PDJT will make that mistake, if only for the reason that he was somewhat offended when DeSantis did not properly thank him for endorsement.
PDJT never forgets things like that. Sometimes it seems like a failing, but I think the other side of it is that he can sometimes be – thankfully – hypersensitive to treachery.
Mike Pence was there for two reasons:
1) to throw a wrench into the wheel spoke of Trump’s presidency
2) to be president himself
I believe VP Traitor was put there by the WI Troika to be an impediment to PDJT policies …….he was disloyal to the MAGA cause from before his very appointment and his first meaningful act as VP was to get LTG Flynn fired……the situation only got WORSE from there
Bush 41
Pence
DeSantis
Is he the chosen? Was not aware of this, thanks.
All indications point to it, unfortunately. I will not hold my nose and vote DeSantis. I’ll write in Trump.
I thought and still think Nikki! is the choice for the principled conservative responsible republican folks at The Reagan Library and the RNC. Ronna is a big fan and that release of her donor list hit a nerve we’ve not seen from republicans in quite a while.
I think the RNC’s only interest in DeSantis is moving Trump supporters away from Trump. They’ll deal with DeSantis later if it comes down to Nikki! and him. They just want Trump eliminated but his voters still voting “republican”.
Nikki is not likeable, however, might be VP material
Halley is INELIGIBLE….. Recommend US Constitution Article II Section 1….NEITHER parent was a citizen at the time of her birth
You nailed it
Nikki has thrown trump and MAGA and the working people under the bus so many times I have lost count. She is through and through RINO.
That’s what I think is happening too. The Karl Rove/Romney types don’t agree with DeSantis on key issues but want to use him to get rid of Trump.
He IS THEIR chosen one and THEY are not supporting Conservative candidates.
BINGO!
However, if I lived in FL I’d vote to re-elect him as guv. He’s done very well for that state. If he runs against Trump for prez, I’m not pulling the lever for him. That’s a no-brainer.
This confuses me. How can a person have integrity, represent the people’s interest as a state governor, but not as a POTUS? That simply is not consistent with human behavioral patterns.
If a level of skill is required in higher office and the man lacks that skill, I can understand that, but that is not the argument here.
The argument here, as I understand it, RD is part of the club, manipulated by the club, owned by the club and as such should never get near the Oval and is unworthy of our support or vote, BUT he’s a great governor of arguably the most important swing state that citizens are flooding to relocate to, who defied COVID rules, kept schools open, churches, did not enforce mandates and appointed an actual physician to address COVID according to science and not politics.
So RD is not worthy of a vote for POTUS due to his lack of character and shortcomings and ties with TPTB, but is worthy of a vote to govern the state. And this makes sense?
This country has gone mad.
Crazy right? All throughout FL’s non-lockdown he was praised on here. Now he’s a loser and you see things like “I hate him”. He’ll get my vote for Governor in November. This is the best and only choice I am concerned about right now.
We liked him until he decided the big club was better than the people’s club.
Yep. It’s either crazy or someone is driving this train and got a lot of people to get on board. Human nature is consistent.
Helping him retain governor helps him screw Trump and MAGA over come 2024.
I see you are still here, Sharia Blue shill.
Still posting on behalf of Crist campaingn.
You’re still helping DeSantis stab Trump in the back and denying the truth. Shame on you, troll.
Maybe your answer lies in the alternative…..Crist.
Hmmmm, very interesting thought to contemplate.
Who is the real beneficiary of Desantis bashing right before a very close gubernatorial race?
Double jeopardy question. Take out Desantis, ruin his political career while installing Crist and flipping Florida into the deep blue sea. Why here? Why now?
There are two things I keep going back to:
This is sundance’s theory, and his excellent track record on uncovering DeceptiCons is absolutely indisputable.
PDJT endorsed DeSantis in 2018 but not in 2022. That’s the Why? I’m focused upon.
Legitimate question.
His press has been good in Florida
His policy has been good in FL…..big difference.
FL press hates him.
XX
What does this mean, for future reference?
Like XOXO, hugs and kisses, hugs and kisses maybe? Just Hugs?
20?
It’s his “Double Cross Agent” Q-flex implying RDS is playing on Team Trump on the down low.
I sure didn’t get THAT!
He explained it recently.
The Q-flex is my add, because I’m just so not playing that game anymore.
“XX” comes from WWII ….. meaning “double-cross”…… it is being used today as an abbreviation for de-santi-s since he double-crossed President Trump and MAGA. Not what an American patriot does.
“The Double-Cross System or XX System was a WWII counter-espionage and deception operation of the British Security Service. Nazi agents in Britain – real and false – were captured, turned themselves in or simply announced themselves, and were then used by the British to broadcast mainly disinformation to their Nazi controllers.
Its operations were overseen by the Twenty Committee.
The name of the committee comes from the number 20 in Roman numerals: “XX” (i.e. a double cross).”
Cactus: would you kindly tell us your source that you are quoting here?
Here is a short intro on the WWII aspect. BBC – History – World Wars: Double Cross – MI5 in World War Two
Been lots of movies about the WWII double cross
Sure, be glad to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-Cross_System
“Let’s go Brandon!”
I know DeSantis protected my ass from the jab. He was the dude who told the rest of the country to burn in hell when it came to Covid laws. I’m not ready to give up on him just now. I won’t forget it because like Trump I owe him too. I’m not willing to cast either aside.
Some of us exercised our own freedom and said, ‘No’ without any protection from a governor. Some day you might actually have to speak for yourself and take a risk.
I’m tired of holding my nose when I vote. Not doing it anymore.
Perhaps you were able to speak for yourself because you didn’t have an employer who was mandating you get the jab to continue to be employed. Not ALL people had that opportunity and DeSantis got legislation passed here in Florida to help many who found themselves in that dilemma. So I understand when someone is grateful to a governor for that help.
How about being grateful to a legislature that passed it with a veto proof majority.
Also-why work for an employer who would mandate a jab?
I would rather work on a garbage truck than an employer who felt they could dictate my medical status and thus my life.
Exactly!
Exactly. You tell the employer to pound sand and move on
Move on to where? Do any of you people have kids and need insurance? It’s not that easy.
My husband refused the jab and risked his job. Because people like DeSantis stood firm he didn’t have to make the tough choice between food on the table and paying for our prescriptions.
You can be thankful someone did the right thing and still disagree about other things he has done. Make better arguments.
because of the legislature
and DeSantis press conference
100% Deb. Excellent points and post.
Consider yourself blessed to have the ability to do that. Not everyone is in your position.
Odd because all the Disney employees and My large employer mandated clot shots in FL
Yep and some schools still teach CRT, Cruise ships require the jab, Seminole, Bay and Alachua Counties have ballot drop boxes.
doesn’t most of Florida still have the corrupt voting machines
All of Florida, but I have beaten that horse to death.
This is like Gov. Rick Perry in Texas
The legislature has the power
I suspect the republican led legislature in Florida
was instrumental in MAGA like legislation
The FL legislature is mostly RINOs.
Consider yourself wholly owned by the state then.
You believe that your fate is entirely within the state’s hands, and if you had a different governor, your fate would have been different.
If so, you are not a free person. Rather, you are technically a slave with a beneficent master…for now.
If that is not your belief, then you would not cower when your master wields his powers either way.
Amen. Not gonna hold my nose and vote for a MINO either …..MAGA In Name Only
TINO, Trumpian in name only.
TIPO, Trumpian In Pose Only.
Very short sighted. I personally refused the vax too. So what? What does that have to do with our officials’ duty to protect our Constitutional rights? In my state of PA, our children were isolated for a year and a half at home being intentionally addicted to electronic devices and disconnected from society. RD didn’t let that happen in Florida.
Desantis did protect his constituents, more than any other governor.
BTW: The same people who are rabidly attacking RD, are supporting NJ resident Dr Oz for PA Senate seat. Can’t make this stuff up!
What Desantis did was invoke STATES RIGHTS which led the Federal cabal to go nuts.
Lincoln through the Civil War destroyed states rights, nice to see one governor go against the federal tide.
Not sure we are on the same page. Well aware of what he did. My point is that the man acted responsibly to protect his people and allow them to excersize their freedoms. Others did no such thing.
Oz has deep roots in PA. Would you prefer born and bred Pennsylvania nutjob Marxist John Fetterman for Senator? Nor it is *rabidly attacking* RD to note that he has joined Team RINO. We’ve been burned so many times, learned nothing from the stupid Gingerbread Boy eagerly riding the Fox’s back. Someone malleable or power-hungered enough to now poorly pantomime MAGA is not a rational or reasoned choice for Prez.
Who would ne a rational and reasoned choice for prez if Trump doesn’t run?
If the lesser of two evils is the only choice, you take the lesser of two evils and live to keep fighting. This country can’t afford to keep allowing Democrats to rule because of principled but very short sighted voters.
Over 4 million illegal immigrants in 19 months, trillions in new spending, Afghanistan, 87,000 new IRS employees, racial discrimination against whites, mutilation of kids in pushing transgenderism, CRT and on and on and on. But your purity is at stake, so let the country disintegrate. Right?.
Incredibly, Kemp (GA) did it long before Desantis. As corrupt as Kemp seems, he identified an issue to actually serve his constituents.
Or maybe he just didn’t want he and his extended family to get the immuno-compromising humanicide. Who knows.
Glad you dodged it, in any case.
Everyone who is Christian should be flat out rejecting what is now proven to change your DNA…..mRNA is being put into everything …..the plan
That is a religious exemption and if someone tied to hold me down and jab me with that poison, it’s end of days for that person
Hmm 🤔
So you needed a politician to save you from taking the jab? Funny because all I had to do was wake up each morning and go no jab for me or my family. If they would’ve mandated for me or my wife who’s a teacher we would’ve got another job. It’s a choice everyone had, sad you thought you needed a politician to help you maintain your convictions
A lot of other people with families to feed, mortgages etc. could not afford this attitude, though. Especially when every other place required being vaxxed anyway. That’s when you come to appreciate your Governor. You can’t “get another job” if every job requires a jab and Governor hates your guts and wants you muzzled and triple vaxxed or else.
Sorry FAIL^
Everyone on the Planet has a choice, and I was more than prepared to walk if need be.
I’ve many who depend on me, I would have FOUND A WAY.
My health and that of my family was not up for discussion re:clot shot.
I might add that getting on the credit merry-go-round, signing yourself up for slavery, is ALSO a choice, and you own the consequences.
Do such people really OWN their stuff, ‘bought’ on CREDIT, or are THEY owned?
ATM, We are all slaves, some more than others.
I believe in GOD and with GOD there is always HOPE, I believe there will be change in the near future.
Hope Is Never Vain.
God Always Gets A Vote.
So does your enemy
Even so, come Lord Jesus.
We own nothing. My father taught me that lesson back in the early 60’s after he threw a building inspector out of our house. We have the illusion of ownership (like we have the illusion of voting), but if we do not comply, watch how fast our possessions can be confiscated.
Keyword here is “would have found a way”, which is not the same as “I found a way”. Not to mention that your situation might be completely different to that of other posters/people. Last but not least, everyone on the planet includes Trump. And what was his choice? When I boil down your posts, you are suggesting that people who took the jab for any reason (incl continue to feed and house their family) is, well, stupid. Everyone on the planet, remember.
Courage. Thank you. That’s the antidote to the Great Reset.
Thank you, yes Gov DeSantis made me feel welcome in my own state.
But every job didn’t require a jab. That’s just your justification for being dependent on the government.
Sell your house and move, or buy a smaller one.
Ultimately it’s your choice, be owned or own yourself.
Does the job of president of the United States require a jab? President Trump chose the jab, are you suggesting he is owned? I don’t know whether you realize that going after people for accepting the jab, you are going after your own leader.
Truth
Because Trump said you have personal freedom to take the jab or not .. the ruling class escalated their power and personal agendas; .. without ANY moral or humane responsibilities. (Why? .. because Trump said so) …
true that people had legit reasons to make personal choices to the barrage of censorship, intimidation, and control.. very sad. While DS; as did Kemp and others served to protect those who chose to exercise this right. The media spun fear and division talking points.
The so-called lessons of history are for the most part the RATIONALIZATIONS of the victors.
History is WRITTEN by SURVIVORS.
From the northern end and over the Mason Dixon line…..Be very careful. Advice out of IL.
Pritzker mandated huge jabs and shut downs and cowed to the teachers unions. Among others.
Prtizker has serious designs on 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
He never met a tax he did not like.
and those he did, he found ways to circumvent them for his personal gain (toilet removal in the windy city).
Also, Pritzker is, allegedly, a descendant of Ukrainian immigrants. I venture to guess where some loyalties might lie.
So while we focus on the obvious and immediate threats, remember there are other snakes slithering around.
Pritzker will have to lose 150 lbs before he runs for president
500 yard bullseye.
I sat my family down and said no jab, here’s why…
When a lawyer asked me why I didn’t get the jab, replied federal government absolving pharma of liability….he said I had good standing.
Has he spoken up about the insidious ongoing Child Trafficking within Disney?
What about Fix2020?
All I hear are crickets.
Has NOT once called out the 2020 election fraud, and while Florida DOES have voter I.D., without addressing other areas of election fraud, voter I.D. is just for optics.
Floridas voter rolls are as clogged up with potential ghost voters, as every other State.
And, still using machines,..
Did you miss his war with Disney?
Disney is doing what ever it wants.
Were you there when he mentioned
1-Fix2020 or talk about
2-Disney’s Child Trafficking?
He cherry picks what the club wants, and the above 2 will remain hidden.
DeSantis is a Puppet.
He has thrown enough out there to make himself loved by the people of FL.
Am wondering what is going on with Disney and their property tax situation?
Waiting for a new governor when RDS “moves on”?
don’t give a rat’s a$$ about him being governor of Florida
you people down there keep him under control
don’t want him as president of the US because he is a
pretender
Yet, I wonder if DeSantis would have behaved the way he did during Covid, if he had had his RNC RINO handlers telling him what to say and do then.
good point
Why did you need protection? I didn’t get it and I live in La.
He was strong on covid , for sure. Like gov Walker of Wisconsin fighting unions, Desantis has a strong (state) position.
Luke,
You started a great discussion thread here. All great comments on both sides of the issue. I applauded everything done by DeSantis during the plandemic so this was a tough pill to swallow regarding DeSantis being a member of the club.
I think a great way to visualize DeSantis’ position within the club is as follows:
(Dems………….Rinos………….GOPe………..DeSantis) Trump/MAGA.
All those inside the parentheses are part of the club. The club ensures you are only allowed to choose those inside the club. The positioning of DeSantis close to Trump/MAGA has been done to give the appearance that DeSantis and Trump/MAGA are interchangeable. They are not. Everyone inside the parentheses is attached to the same funding yoke.
Sundance has placed a big spotlight on that last parenthesis highlighting the difference between DeSantis and Trump/MAGA.
There are many who’s name could be interchanged with DeSantis’ name in the parenthetic depiction above. Those who we once thought were MAGA only to find out they were just posers. I swear sometimes I think President Trump pulls them in close to him just to expose them and show their true colors.
MAGA is a position and a way of living, not a person. For that reason, I guess it’s best to back the position not the person.
One question, did our Governor make HCQ and Ivermectin Over the Counter when he unmandated the “works”? No.
If you are really free, you make the decision to not be coerced and stand pat ready to fight like a cornered animal. I didn’t need a govt lackey to tell me what to do.
RDS did uphold the constitution when it came to Covid madness, and a few other state matters, yes. But, his recent change tells me trust but verify.
I don’t think many states, if any, forced people to have the covid
vaccination. DeSantis initially closed down the beaches which surround
90% of the state I believe.
26hrs? OMG!
The DeSantis Derangement Syndrome obsession has achieved the same level of the left’s Trump Derangement Syndrome. Sad
“By the inch it’s a cinch, by the yard it’s hard” attributed to McTurtle, but might have been Thune!
Little by little, those who have bad intentions for us in politics take time to set the table, prepare the food, before getting down to eat. Sundance is 100% on point, if you don’t see that, don’t say you weren’t warned.
In the words of my Aggie prof…
‘There are those who want to come to the table (to negotiate) and then there are those that want to blow it up.’
your enemy launches a transparent offensive at you……you do NOTHING while gauging the response of your doing nothing….you THEN come out with a LUKEWARM defense…….not someone I would want in my foxhole
Enemy? Is that you Dementia Joe?
I see you on here all the time toadie….you are easily manipulated and led astray and speak highly of RDS…..give it another 10 years and MAYBE you will gain some tempering
I’ve been here for YEARS Cletus
Hardly.
No one here is demanding his removal, prosecution, imprisonment, or death.
No one is trying to cancel DeSantis or end his political career.
But for the person who is being groomed to run as the GOPe candidate (it’s quite obvious) for President it’s odd that on recent responses to major national events his comments are delayed, managed, and manicured.
Noticeably different than from a year ago.
So, yeah, he’s under a microscope now because he’s chosen to run and to be handled by the establishment side of the party.
These are akin to the “Ted Cruz” supporters. You still come across some of them to this day. No matter what info you share about their chosen patron, they are simply too proud to admit they were duped.
Well, in the end the result of backing Cruz is staying with the GOPe.
That will be the same result of backing DeSantis.
Even backing Ron and Rand Paul just keeps the GOPe going strong!
heck even worse……OZERO has a better claim to legitimacy than does the CANADIAN…at least Ozero has ONE citizen parent we can verify
you are correct
heck, I was duped by George Bush a long time ago and I am
still pissed about it – but, at least I admit it – and know that
John Kerry or Al Gore would have been worse.
You see that with anyone that gets overly emotionally invested with something or someone. This is why it’s vital to value your beliefs and ideals more than the politicians that espouse them. I’m afraid that too many people that are MAGA would follow Trump even if he totally did a 180 and became a leftist. They’d claim it’s a 5D chess move to take over the Democrat party or another ridiculous claim.
Leaderless movements are most effective at affecting change. We need to support those that support our goals and use them as a populist tool rather than the hero worship I see around her far too often. Every MAGA candidate is different. Some are total fakes and others are rock solid but all of them are imperfect, including PDJT.
Leaderless? what did that do for the teaparty?…….
So true. ‘Leaders’ took over and led us into the briar patch.
I support the MAGA principles only. If Trump did a 180 I would not support him.
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“No one is trying to cancel DeSantis or end his political career.” -John
Really? You see what you want to see but it doesn’t take blunt force trauma to recognize the sowing discord and dripping disdain here for DeSantis smack dab in the middle of an election year!
Media Matters is laughing at this self destruction: “When your enemy is in the process of destroying himself, stay out of his way.”
Don’t think it’s derangement, more like… A traitor, A RINO, A Coward, A Sell Out.
add GOPe-developed divider to that list. C’mon man….
Traitor? Coward? Sell out?
Oh lord put down the Kool-aid
So you’d rather be deceived?
No one said hate DeSantis, but we are watching him.
Fool me once…
not really – facts do matter to MAGA
This is what it looks like when you ignore the positions that you shouldn’t (MAGA) and allow yourself to be wedded to the person.
Your mistake is in thinking that those wedded to Trump/MAGA are wedded to the person rather than understanding that it’s his positions (MAGA) that wed people to him.
Follow the positions, not the person, and Trump is in a category that desantis is not.
It’s just that simple.
The GOPe cannot accept what is clear to everyone else: Donald Trump is the Republican Party and Donald Trump will be the nominee in 2024. DeSantis doesn’t become relevant until 2028.
Yes, relevant right along with Kari Lake!
Lake every time
I’m not sure I’d want DeSantis to ever be relevant beyond the level of Governor of Florida. And I would say the same about just about every other Republican Governor at this point, including Kristi Noem.
Why don’t you like him? Just wondering. Sitting here watching in NY, he looks great to me. I’m inclined to agree he’s better as Governor than President because he’s simply not rich enough, i.e. in my mind, he can be bought. But, I do think he’s the best Governor in the Country, easily.
Fair question. It’s late, so I’m gonna be lazy and just suggest you read articles by Sundance here from the past couple weeks on topics involving DeSantis. Consider the particular donors. Consider the selective actions and inactions. Consider what was said and what was not said. Consider he is being heavily courted by the GOPe. Does that mean he is a shifty Ted Cruz 2.0? Not necessarily. But given how many times we’ve been burned by ones who, in hindsight, we come to realize were DeceptiCons, at very least keep a very watchful eye, a scrutinizing position, on DeSantis. (Actually, we should be doing that for every politician.) I think he is fine as a Governor and I hope he wins. But as a Presidential candidate no thankyou. If Trump is somehow prevented from running in 2024, I’d want someone from Trump’s camp.
“best Governor in the country”,…compared to WHAT?
If we have NO true MAGA Governors (and we DON’T!) then its easy to look “the best” in comparison.
How do I know he isn’t MAGA? NOT ONE WORD about the 2020 election being stolen.
IF KL wins in Nov, we will have a REAL MAGA Governor, and the comparison will be STARK.
And I KNOW she is real MAGA, cause she constantly talks about the stolen election.
THAT is the test, cause GOPe candidates WILL NOT SAY IT.
It’s easy to see DeSantis is the best governor in the country.
Everything you need to know about who is a better current governor
can be found in the silence when asking who is better.
…..
The democrats are the only ones who benefit
from the DeSantis Derangement Syndrome obsession..
So, MAGA is only concerned about stolen election. That is good to know. And explains so much. I look forward to GOP candidate running in 2024 solely on the stolen election in 2020.
Our country is being destroyed because of a stolen election. If your votes don’t count then this is NOT a representative govt.
We ain’t even made it through 2022.
Good point.
They are turning against him because Sundance told them to. DDS.
Pas vrai.
No. Because Sundance exposed him, and DeSantis exposed himself. Sundance simply posted the truth, facts, and did it accurately.
I knew to examine RDS before Sundance started analyzing him. Info he researched and posted aligned with what I came to know outside of this wonderful website
TPP and the classic conservative inc staging
Why are you here? You clearly have no intellectual understanding of the issues surrounding DeSantis that Sundance has been writing about.
Or you are willfully obtuse.
With all due respect, that is Bravo Sierra. You should go back and find some of my posts about not being happy with my Governor long before Sundance was convinced of DeSantis’ Shadiness. Ask anybody, I have been complaining about him for nearly 2 years.
I’ve been discussing DeSantis before as well^
A few of us had inklings of trouble in Paradise. Mine came first with the fliplfloppery on the Toll expansion. Then the Medical Marijuana Cartel. Then the Machines. Tepid MAL response. Jet setting around re endorsing folks, searching the Elite’s couch cushions for loose change now this prepackaged crap response.
Ad Rem: Clean up on Aisle 45.
Not quite.
Because we True Treepers, respect the First Amendment, I will grant your opinion and right to speak it, lee way.
However, I vehemently disagree.
True Treepers are a critically thinking group of people, with diverse life experiences that often guide the human thought train.
Treepers, when given pesky facts…are able to think things thru.
And we are concerned who and how this country and the swamp will move forward because there is a lot of money at stake. And money buys power and control. I have yet to read any Treeper say they think all is well and we should “carry on”.
Daily, over a thousand posts regarding political games etc. And I read more than half of them.
Often true facts are delayed in their being brought forward, be it a MCE (mass casualty event) or a political kerfuffle.
For your information, I was calling on the silence of RDS regarding the MAL Raid, around lunch time, and I am on CST, while the were still invading the POTUS’ privacy.
Way before the weak twit from RDS or way before any thing Sundance posted. For the record, I am a taxpayer for FL. And I have been suspect of him for a while as he is too good to be true.
Florida’s most prominent citizen and family had, first and foremost, been violated. And the governor delayed any type of comment. Trump is still a private citizen…of Florida.
Secondly, things like this don’t “just happen”.
People in power had to know. Too many governments involved, Feds, FBI, Palm Beach city, Mar Al Lago city, Palm Beach County—including sheriffs etc. The state of Florida as well.
dumb; Sundance did the research and gave us the information for
us to sort out ourselves. Then we researched some more and
exclaimed, “Whoa, Nelly!” We have seen this before and not
falling for it again.
It takes critical thinking skills; something many don’t have.
I feel sort of sorry for them as they will be stuck in a rut for
a long time before they realize they are even in one.
that is readily apparent on these pages every day the status of the “thinking” adult in America today…..many are too easily convinced or manipulated because to do anything else is just too hard and requires work
If you aren’t MAGA and loud and proud about it, you aren’t fit to follow in Trumps footsteps.
In point of fact, it’s an indicator, a direct indicator, that the individual in question will follow quite a different path.
You don’t have to like it, but to deny it is no better than denying a stolen election.
Maybe they are turning against him……because of his actions or lack of action. Sundance had no say in that . He just pointed it out.
Les gens ont leur propre esprit, la danse du soleil n’est pas une influence sur ceux qui ont leur propre cerveau et l’utilisent.
Because he’s on the fast track to being a sellout. He sold out Trump by his (non) action re the MarALago raid.
I live in FL, I’ll vote for him for governor, but if we get another scamdemic I don’t know that he’ll be as good as before.
I no longer trust him.
If he sold out Trump he’ll sell US out too!!
That is the idea, ma’am. The only reason he looks so good is because everyone else is that terrible. Ask yourself why he doesn’t have mountains of small dollar donations from Floridians? Why does he have to fly around the Country begging for money? He has ignored millions of Floridians on Election Integrity and the SunCoast toll roads. I believe all the things he did in Florida were to attract National attention without really going against the Republican’t ‘Stablishment.
Personally, I agree. Here in IL, same sort of thing. Which is where/why this marketing and advertising campaign is very thoughtfully, being put into place.
He is still a relatively unknown product. By the time we hit the advertising stage, full force…you will know it as he will be the “product”we can’t live without (I give you Apple’s Iphone as an example).
RDS is within a company…slowly trying to test the waters…we have not gone into heavy advertising, yet, for their “product”.
Advertising will bring the fierce and vicious competition for ‘dollars’ (translated into votes).
not true – research some more – there are great ones
that don’t have their nose on Fox and give press conferences
daily
DeSantis’ recent performance has tainted him for the future. We need MAGA at all levels going forward. DeSantis has been a good governor and that should be as high an office as he attains. We don’t need him as President. We need a true MAGA. We don’t need him as Senator. We need a true MAGA.
not ever
If I were a Floridian, I’d vote for RDS for govenar. But, that’s about it. Not national office. He’s not America First and that was evident when he was in the House of Representatives. RDS is tightly managed by GOPe and big money donors. I like him as Govenor of Florida. But, it’s my belief that, as president, he wouldn’t do well by us.
I wouldn’t want to bevin the position of a Floridian today, and fortunately I’m not.
In 2018, I did not vote for US Senate, because my choice was McSally, a RINO or Kelly the Dem
I have promised myself I will NEVER vote for a GOPe RINO, again.
And then worked in the State party, to try to insure that wasn’t my choice.
And, specifically to prevent splitter candidates, which was how McSally won the primary.
So, not JUST making the commitment NEVER to vote for a GOPe RINO, but also committed to trying to insure I am not in the position of voting for the lesser if two weavils, or leaving blank spaces on the ballot!
We are in a catch 22 situation in Georgia. We have a known Rino , Kemp, and a known communist, Abrams. We know the evidence on Kemp with Dominion machines, selling out to the CCP. But we cannot afford to let Georgia go down under Abrams. So we have a choice to vote for the known crook or the commie. Evidently he is good at his job and knows how to get around every thing they are throwing at us. I voted for Kemp originally but not in the primary this time. But looks like to try to save our state, I will be forced to vote for him in November. Maybe it takes a good crook to beat a commie. Would be nice not to be forced to vote for the lesser of two evils.
“ I’d vote for RDS for govenar. But, that’s about it. Not national office.”
So,
Without knowing your choices you have made up your mind.
Good thinking.
Exactly. ‘America First’ is a true indicator of what team any given individual actually plays for.
ICYMI – FYI – WTF – Trust No One – ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Until you realize everything was/is a lie…
Only then can you begin to have a good offense/defense…
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A big difference between President Trump and Governor Desantis is that no one controls(manages) Trump whereas Desantis is clearly being controlled(managed)…
Who manages him? We are in NY; observing from our seat, we see him as a great Governor. Wondering what issues people have with him.
You must be new here.
The same conglomerate that has controlled our country for 50 to 100 years controls DeSantis now.
Look at who recently is funding him, and you know who controls him.
https://www.fec.gov
Search DeSantis’ donors.
I am in NY, and now that we are in worse trouble with our voter rolls being completely compromised, we know how the game is played
https://auditny.com
Ron DeSantis flies to New Jersey/ New York on Sunday, meets with billionaire developer Joseph Cyre, who just donated $400k+ to Democrat candidate Kathy Hochul. Immediately following the meeting, DeSantis cancels the fundraiser with Hochul’s opponent, Republican Lee Zeldin, and returns to Florida. Apply Occam’s Razor here.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/30/desantis-pulls-out-of-lee-zeldin-fundraiser-after-meeting-with-billionaire-donor-who-gave-more-than-400000-to-kathy-hochul/
Governor Ron DeSantis is funded primarily by a small group of exclusive Wall Street corporations, billionaires and hedge fund managers, and almost no small donors.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/25/desantis-beats-trump-on-fundraising-however-donor-financials-highlight-corporate-version-vs-grassroots-version-of-the-republican-party/
You are naive. Keep researching.
Or start.
Not saying this person is insincere but we’ve had, um, agenda posters, play ignorant in the past.
Rachel, you need to do a lot of research.
DeSantis has taken care of small issues but has not taken care of massive issues.
The Dominion machines are still in place. Why?
Indeed.
Or why did he vote for TPP, the TransPacificPartnership, NAFTA on Chinese steroids, when he was in the House?
DeSantis has zero economic chops and no world stage MAGA instincts.
In order to research, one must first remove ones head from ones posterior.
First question, are you an America First Republican?
Second question, Do you percieve the GOPe as fully in bed with the Dems (Uniparty) and both aligned against YOU, PDJT and our MAGA Movement.
Third question, do you know how to recognise the difference between a true MAGA candidate, and a GOPE candidate?
Forth question; do you agree it is vitally important to be able to know the difference, so that you are supporting MAGA Candidates with your volonteer time, $ and votes, while depriving the GOPe of same?
PS President Donald Trump does not need donors. He has his own money. Independent.
Ron DeSantis needs money for his campaign. He does not have his own money.
Not independent.
Ron needs donors. and those donors are…SHARKS!!!! They OWN him!
Absolutely^ well said
Read The Art of the Deal… Trump doesn’t use his own money to do a deal… developers alway borrow.
Same for politics.
Right. As president he uses tax money to buy vaccines (to name one), the very same vaccine that so many o f your fellow treepers shun – and mock those posters who are grateful for a governor who enable them to keep their job while refusing to take the jab. The vaccine manufacturers got even richer – the deal was and is great for them.
President Trump left the decisions concerning the china-virus to the states and we the people during his administration…
President Trump needs OUR money; just because he has it doesn’t
mean he should spend it on a campaign. President Trump would
never sell out to rinos for money. Therein lies the difference.
Well, that is news to me because I got so many emails from Trump asking for donations – incl on Christmas Day!! – until I finally kicked him out of my email box. If he does not need donors, explain to me why Trump is so aggresssively begging for money.
He does it for winred.
What issues people have with him?
Well, I’d like to hear him demand Fix2020
I’d also like to hear him talk about Disney/CIA/CHILD TRAFFICKING
Remember Jeb!? He was Governor of Florida too. A good one. He would not have made a good President.
Good Governor? The Opioid Crisis was spawned in his 8 year reign..
Start absorbing what has been discussed on his recent out in public travel for campaign
I’ve said it about 10 times
Koch Bros are his main funding
you are the second or is third poster from NY making that observation
now I am making an observation about you
His main donor is former President Donald Trump. I’m a Trump voter but he got rid if bump stocks gave us red flag laws and raused the age from 18 to 22. Our Governor in November will give us constitutiknal carry
joyeo, he did not “give,” us red flag laws, graham ran it past him and he ignored it.
BIDEN gave us red flag laws.
In my State, we already HAVE Constitutional carry, have had it for YEARS.
BS he will.
Perhaps most of us remember that Trump lifted Desantis into that office, even though RD was reluctant to have his endorsement. Was RD just another of Trump’s bad picks?
Honestly, it says more about Trump than RD. Trump has endorsed and appointed more bad candidates than good. Make excuses if you wish.
LOL… There is a big difference between being deceitfully manipulated and being a willing participant…
But you knew that with your deceitful manipulative reply…
I thought it was quite straightforwarded, but I’ll restate it:
Desantis was polling way behind Gillum.
Trump endorsed Desantis and RD immediately gained in the polls
RD won
Now we are to believe RD is no good.
Why did Trump endorse him?
Logical, not manipulative, train of thought. Don’t confuse no liking where the dots lead with manipulation. That’s a cop out.
LOL… A follow up deceitful manipulative reply…
FYI- anytime you put “Make excuses if you wish” and “That’s a cop out” and insults… your being deceitful manipulative…
President Trump was managed HEAVILY by Mitch McConnell, Mike Pompeo, Mark Meadows, and others in his orbit. He let Pence, Fauci, Birx, and the rest of the COVID taskforce do whatever they liked and never stepped up to stop their havoc. He delegated so much to the Swamp that the only big wins he had were on SCOTUS. And even there, it was who Mitch allowed to be nominated.
LOL… There is a big difference between being deceitfully manipulated and being a willing participant…
But you knew that with your deceitful manipulative reply…
Agree with your points. We are where we are today because of COVID reponse. Utter failure that removed our freedoms, gave even more power and money to big pharma, caused untold and immeasurable harm to almost all our citizens especially our elderly and our youth, and upended voting. Not reversible. IMO, this is not up for debate. The only point debated is who was responsible.
Well, but isn’t the go to excuse for every crappy appointment that Trump made: no other would be approved by McConnell, at times other names are thrown in like Christie. According to this site, then, Trump was managed by McConnell (whom he also endorsed for his senate campaign).
LOL… There is a big difference between being deceitfully manipulated and being a willing participant…
But you knew that with your deceitful manipulative reply…
Trump will be the Republican candidate in 2024. I don’t believe the cheap shot artists have a ice cubes chance in hell of stopping Trump.
DeSantis in 2028 maybe, but for now he needs to take care of the good people of Florida.
Back in the 70’s I used to like to go to dog beach in Dunedin Florida. It was in my mind a little piece of Paradise on Earth. When the state took it over they changed it forever, I could never figure out who this character D. Watson was that was immortalized in the plastic shitter, the locals blamed him for it’s demise. I hate it when you have paradise lost, DeSantis needs to make sure they don’t do any more damage to such a beautiful state. Especially the beaches.
Yes, he’s clearly distancing himself from Trump and “MAGA” (which of course is Trump’s brand).
I don’t fault him for that. Let him be his own man. Let him come up with his own slogans.
As far as I can tell, they appear to agree on 90% of domestic issues (it’s still not clear where he stands on foreign policy).
What he clearly doesn’t have is Trump’s drive and desire to take on the establishment. But then who does?
Kari Lake.
Can’t wait to see her take on Arizona.
Yes, she will clean that place up and eventually be Prez one day…
Will she win her race? Arizona has become so liberal… so you never know.
Liberal my A$$!!
Since you seem so sure, please point me to DeSantis’ expressed fiscal policies.
Also would like to know why he voted for TPP. That’s a huge red flag for me.
Another Red Flag about DeSantis’ character is Trump’s Endorsement helped him become Governor. And what does DeSantis do? He turns around and tries to unseat Trump with the help of the UniParty. It tells me there is something rotten inside Ron.
Most definitely it is! Ron seems to be another Ted Cruz!
I seem so sure? Re-read my post and please don’t make assumptions. I said “As far as I can tell, they appear to agree …”. That’s hardly being sure.
I don’t believe his “expressed fiscal policies” are catalogued in a single place, but you could start here:
https://www.isidewith.com/candidates/ron-desantis-2/policies/economic
As to why he voted for TPP I have no idea. It’s a fair question and one that he should be asked.
My sister, who has always voted for a Democrat, likes Desantis. She doesn’t like Trump because of his brazen attacks on the establishment.
My sister woke up when gender conversion was introduced into the schools. This issue alone threw her off the deep end of the pool. She’s now on a mission to make this nonsense stop. Welcome to reality Sis.
The “attacks on the establishment” are exactly what makes Trump such a feared opponent and why it is determined to destroy him.
It’s also the key difference between Trump and DeSantis.
MAGA is AMERICAS brand.
Main street America.
All other brands are not.
I don’t trust the GOPe/RNC as far as I can spit. They have proven time and again they cannot be trusted. Especially now, knowing they are in bed with the dems who are dragging us over a cliff. Outside of a few who can be counted one hand, I’ve had it with all of them.
While I don’t live in FL, from what I’ve read, I do agree that DeSantis has governed his state well. However, due to his response, or lack thereof involving a number serious national issues, I withhold judgement pending further scrutiny.
Furthermore, I refuse to turn my back on PDJT. Fault 45 if you feel you must, but imho, DeSantis should remain in FL and show the country how much more a strong governor is able to accomplish.
What have other Governors said about the Red Sermon? Any official statements? I am genuinely curious.
I know McCarthy blasted it but he is not a Governor.
What other Governors have submitted to GOPe Grooming?
KL, a CANDIDATE for Governor, issued a scathing statement, and didn’t wait 26 hrs, either.
She also condemned the MAL raid, soon after it was announced.
But then, she IS “Trump in a dress”,..
i did not ask about candidates. I asked about governors. I don’t put much stock in candidates’ slogans and promises.
There is NOTHING wrong with what DeSantis said. He doesn’t have to carry Trumps bucket of water….. that’s on Trump…… Ron DeSantis is articulating “Trumpisms”, MAGA, Republican ideas….. and that is what the base wants……. lower taxes, a vibrant economy, jobs for middle America, lower gas prices, a robust energy policy, curbing inflation, jobs, sanctity of life……. are our principles……… Ron DeSantis has those principles.
Huh?
It’s time to understand how much of DC behavior, actions, and faux conflicts are just orchestrated, script writen events.
Review the past elections that the Republican candidate takes a dive and throws the election to the Dims. George Bush Sr – one term – Didn’t campaign for a second term. He handed Clinton the election. McCain was appointed to dive for Obama. Romney took the dive for Obama 2nd term. He just checked out by the end. All RINOS that had McConnell’s approval.
All those DeSantis principles are the usual election principles. President Trump upheld all those principles and really excelled making real, true changes that took the power from this government and gave it back to the people. He truly put America First everyday in countless ways. We were thriving. People had pride, employment, income, a feel of success.
In all honesty, something is very off with DeSantis and his obvious shift to RINO territory. He has been a great Gov and will continue to be so post 2022 election. He isn’t presidential material until he cuts the RINO strings and embraces true MAGA principles. I hope he wakes up.
I’m with you!
No he doesn’t. He voted for TPP which is Amero last
I didn’t know he voted for TPP until I read it on the Treehouse. That opened my eyes to what kind of politician he was. And the one issue I could not accept. That is definitely not America First!
Well, Replicant Ron can return his buckets of donations to President Trump.
When my brother went to DisneyWorld and got a bad case of Covid……. Ron DeSantis’ Florida healthcare system was there for my brother (and he recovered in 4 days and flew home)……. when I got Covid in California….. my doctor told me they had no medicinal therapies for me….. try hot lemon water and honey…….. I asked my doctor if he wanted me to shake dried sage around the room…….. he just laughed, uncomfortably and told me to go to the emergency room if I got worse…… nice 14th century medicine we’ve got.
Huh?
When I got Covid, I went over to my cabinet, and pulled out my “in case of Covid” kit.
Took HCQ, AZT, Zink, Vit. D, and Vit C.
I don’t rely on Drs, Hospitals or politicians for my health, and am frankly baffled that anyone does.
“I don’t rely on Drs, Hospitals or politicians for my health”
Good thinking.
Do you do your own dentistry too?
brush your teeth, floss and use a water pic
I have not had Covid; knock on wood. I am a firm believer
in your treatment protocol. Vitamin D level is important.
Have your doctor give you a blood test; should be in the
40-50’s. Many prescription medicines and those with
thyroid issues have lowered levels. I have read a few
articles over the past two years that identify low levels
of Vitamin D as an issue when one gets Covid. Higher
levels of Vitamin D might result in a lighter case of Covid.
As always, Check with your Doctor! LOL
Yes when I got COVID in VA, I was better in two days. I thank DeSantis for that because he’s just that amazing
So DeSantis owns the health care systems in FL?
I’m assuming you are talking about monoclonal antibody treatment. Yes, that was a good thing. Other than that the health systems here were shut down for elective treatments just like everywhere else.
How about making HCQ and Ivermectin available?
Crickets on that.
And the health systems here still mandate useless masks. Where’s Ron on that?
When I got CV I treated myself… like any other head cold, flu etc. etc. Also recovered in 4/5 days… Didn’t need any Governor or President to help take care of my health issue.. Didn’t even bother with a doctor… checked my temp, my oxygen level and took Vit C/D Zinc… Most people fell for their *scamdamic* – IMO and just sayin! Trump 2024 and FJB!!!
Agree 100% Monica. To my knowledge RD was the only Gov to set up statewide clinics to administer monoclonal antibodies which did, in fact, produce good outcomes and IIRC, the feds shut down his supply and RD “backdoored” and “ran an end around” (similar to POTUS and AMLO on border)to source this life saving treatment. 2 of my senior family members benefitted from his actions. That is just the truth.
Eff them.
ALL!!!!!!!
‘DeSantis gave a down the middle approved republican rebuttal.’ – Sundance
This interview has the flavor of a scripted, softball setup – as if DeSantis himself submitted the questions to the interviewer, to tee up his knock-it-out-of-the-park responses.
What’s significant in such a set piece interview, of course, is what was NOT said: not a word about MAGA, not a word about Trump.
In the soft-socialist world of RINO Republicans, Trump is radioactive. Like Bill Clinton, they strive above all to remain ‘viable within the [Uniparty] system.’
I’m Mitch McClownell, and I approved this message. 🙂
DeSantis says all the right things while leaving gapping holes by refusing to acknowledge President Trump and MAGA . It’s so disappointing! DeSantis smells like Pence.
Fox News is just ridiculous at this point. It’s just a RINO tentacle.
I am very curious about the two Marine props. President Trump would have military lined up -who wanted to volunteer for White House duties. I recall seeing interviews. I hope there is a deep dive on the OBiden props. Are they just the same guys who manhandle and direct Biden around while wearing the White House Bunny costume. Are they legit? If so, let’s hear them brag as was done with President Trump. Something feels very off about last night’s appearance during OBiden’s Hate Speech.
Fully agree with your thoughts.
I’d say the ‘show’ was C G I but that’s just me.
It’s called TREASON!!
Ron is a Mainstream Republican. I don’t know what Raymond is, kinda reminds me of PeeWee Herman, first I have seen him. I am just grateful I didn’t have to watch mouth breather Laura to see Ron be a bot.
“Mouth breather”, good one.
Terminal case of Orange Blindness.
Obviously this evasive pantomime could not happen without the full cooperation of Fox, and I imagine representatives thereof were involved in the construction of this interview as they sought to avoid discussion of the Lion in the room.
I would also note that the engineers of Ron Deification Syndrome do not have a stellar quick reaction team.
It’s astonishing to me that none of these people actually understand the MAGA mindset. Hence the slow reaction times…
idiots.
President Trump Re-TRUTH “Interesting” in response to someone who posted the Charlie Rose interview about loyalty and friends who were there and those who weren’t for him. How surprising it was to find out. He is very loyal person, expects the same, and discusses being disappointed in some. He is a Believer in an eye for an eye.— according to this old interview.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/108927588032749208
I hope Sundance is wrong about DeSantis, however there are a number of troubling things about certain Republicans. Fox News has deceitfully pretended to support conservative values and responsible, decent and loyal Americans but has on many key points pushed a similar narrative to the mainstream media. Why does any Republican politician that cares about his or her country want to give them credibility by appearing on their channel?
DeSantis does not need to mention Trump but is he prepared to run on say the seven most important issues where Trump was correct and do so fully? I wish Sundance would address an open letter to him on where exactly he stands: serving decent Americans or being manipulated by certain political and business interests? Which is more important: being honest and perhaps having his political career ended by corrupt politicians and billionaires or compromising and allowing these people to go unchallenged? The US needs a restoration of justice and for corruption ruthlessly to be rooted out at every level. Is he prepared to do this no matter how many threats on his life?
Biden’s speech was a major assault upon our nation. Based upon RDS response he’d be a lousy ally in the foxhole.
DeSantis was very weak.
DeSantis was trained at Harvard law school, prosecuted corruption in his marine career. From then on, his career path mirrored so many current politicians (both Left and Right), albeit with more success and made a name for himself.
He fights FJB and the Left on a grand ideology scale, I doubt you’ll find him in the same foxhole with the likes of you and me. The above linked tv interview showed us that.
While we argue about political figures, the tectonic forces grinding the US down continue.
The tectonic changes including deindustrialization and identity politics corrosion took place over decades.
Trump improved things for a few years, but the juggernaut is unstoppable, ultimately. The entire world is now beholden to China, rising as the new hegemon while “assisting” the decline of the US.
The US corruptocrats of all stripes are jockeying to enrich themselves while they can.
If Trump can win in 2024… we might be able to hold these massive forces at bay and regrow… I think our decline is not inevitable!
We are not dependent on China. Ultimately they are wholly dependent on the US and the EU, we are over 80% of their market. We cut back, China goes down the tubes.
China is dependent on imports for its essentials-food and energy. That makes them very vulnerable.
Funny how no one sees that.
believe me China has its own problems
when the US goes into a deep recession end of 2022 or 2023, and we
are no longer buying goods from China, what happens to their
economy?
their economy is on the verge of collapse now…….it will not last much longer…..it will probably be PRC that draws the world into recession/depression rather than the US
Isn’t Laura good friends with Ron’s wife?
As a Floridian, I like DeSantis a lot and have been extremely grateful for his leadership. DeSantis is not a typical Wall Street, big money donor RINO like McCain or Ryan. He’s certainly not a Romney, who governed Massachusetts left of Kennedy.
DeSantis showed concern for Main Street (business owners and workers) during the pandemic. His policies have allowed our state to operate in economic stability through pretty rough times. He has acted throughout his tenure with common sense, conviction, courage to do what’s right in the face of opposition and criticism.
Remember, we have the long Primary season, a dozen or more candidates to vet and choose. I’m betting he won’t allow himself to be bullied and compromised by big money donors and will hold to his principles. If DeSantis makes it, I’ll vote for him gladly. DeSantis is not Trump, but he may do very well in our highest office if he gets there.
Just really don’t want DeSantis to leave our State – especially to the likes of Charlie Crist….or Andrew Gillum. I can’t think of a possible replacement.
As for the rally tonight, I am not happy about Trump’s endorsement of Dr. Oz.
Just stop it! Why attack Desantis? No one is perfect. Trump is not perfect. If our position is strong and well founded then why nit pic others. Desantis is not the enemy.
100% with you Susan! Throwing negative energy at Ron DeSantis is meant to accomplish what??
Nothing good that’s for sure.
“Throwing negative energy”? Where did you come up with that one?
How is an observation an attack?
Funny isn’t it. Your opinion is an attack. Susan Just wants us MAGA folks to shut up. That somehow reminds me of the UniParty folks.
Leftist talking points here…..speech is violence
Actually, he is. In our own midst pretending to be one of us.
“Desantis is not the enemy.”
This is a startling example of oversimplification and critical analysis failure. It’s not that DS is “the enemy”. It’s that he’s also not “leading the defense of MAGA principles nor leading the attack against Biden and his communist regime”.
Inasmuch therefore, he’s so far indicated he’ll never be serious about or able to overturn the communist overthrow of America that was accomplished 2020 and is ongoing towards the final death of America.
Ron DeSantis is starting to look more like Robert the Bruce instead of William Wallace:
excellent!
I’ve been against DeSantis being the nominee since well before this whole kerfuffle began. It was never because I thought he was a bad candidate, it’s that he’s not the right candidate. What’s needed is not someone who is going to move us forward, we need someone who is going to roll things back. I think only Trump can do that. Only he has the info, the motivation, and the skills to do it. Once he’s done and there’s buckets of blood on the floor, then someone like DeSantis may be a good candidate.
No one is attacking DeSantis. Those are liberal words.
People are waking up to his rino tendencies.
And you find something wrong with that?
Agree. My biggest issue with these attacks is that we have one set of standards we hold Trump to and another for everyone else.
There are a myriad of things I am STILL waiting for Trump to speak up on and have been waiting for more than 26 hours, 26 days and even more than 26 months. There are many relationships Trump has with lefties and anti MAGA people, including his own advisors, wife and family. No one is perfect.
Problem is, as President, he could be seriously compromised by other peoples’ money, as are most in DC, giving US the current situation.
So, your point is only multimillionaires and billionaires are allowed to run for President?
While so many of you are wasting a lot of time attacking Ron DeSantis you are forgetting who the real enemy is and what a serious situation we are in
It’s not an attack, it’s an observation. Are we not supposed to be critical thinkers now?
Desantis is Godzilla governor, great. You win.
DeSantis is a weak kneed sister without the guts to even mention Trump, MAGA, etc. nothing less than a full throated, truthful, and accurate condemnation of the Mar a Lago raid and Biden’s Hitleresque speech is acceptable.
people like you
This is despicable.
The real enememy, susan, are those who pretend to be something that they aren’t.
You’ll never be able to say that Trump is one of those.
Everyone else with few exceptions, is questionable.
BlowJob????? So been there done THAT!
DeSantis spoke the truth. He was calm and measured and honest. Is that the new yardstick for evil GOPe now? WTF is it that you people waxing pompous over his supposed “RINO” outlook want from him? Explain yourselves with facts and logic, please, because this about face on DeSantis seems illogical and in some cases, it’s obviously calculated. Calculated to achieve what ends, I don’t know, but I would like to know. And see if you can explain it without bringing Trump into it. Trump and DeSantis aren’t necessarily tied together politically, nor are they necessarily adversaries.
You know, I have never read these comments so early in the morning. Is that when trolls come out? For all of you “defending” RDS you obviously have not been reading or following SD’s posts for the past several weeks on him. He is straight up GOPe and SD has meticulously pointed it out bringing the “receipts” as they say. He has been clear, concise and to me, extremely helpful in opening my eyes. As a new Florida resident, I will happily pull the lever for him for Gov’nor. I am very grateful for SD pointing out how he is being handled by the establishment and how he is literally owned by them. He is not the streetfighter we need to take on the issues of the Deep State, etc. He will be carefully handled and let’s not kid ourselves, this is BOTH parties, doing the handling. Different wing=same bird.
If there is ANY upside in this unfortunate turn of DS is that now we will no longer be tricked into an establishment candidate. We actually now have “yardsticks” so to speak on what a GOPe/Establishment candidate is: 2020 election fraud; raid on MAL; Deep state/FBI; Red Sermon , among others. Does this candidate discuss and adress these issues aggressively or do they soft ball them after taking a 24+hour temperature read (see SD article on RD above). I also noticed Kristi Noem silent on this one as well as Pence. Heck, let’s make it easy, does this person even use MAGA or mention Trump? If not, your answer is clear. NOT MAGA, GOPe/establishment who will NOT fight for us.
“Is that when trolls come out?” When your first sentence includes name calling and personal attack, you have zero credibility.
I think the argument is over timing and no mention of MAGA. No one said “RINO” but you, actually.
You just don’t get it.
“Explain yourselves with facts and logic,”
Factual, logical explanations have been given since the first post by SD. Your inability to comprehend logical facts is either deliberate or illustrative of critical thinking deficit.
Today’s political battlefield calls for warriors capable of skillful, in depth analysis of the enemy’s movements, in order to determine their plans and objectives. Doing so allows us to determine combatants loyalties and develop plans to counter the enemy’s continued takeover of America.
Absent such abilities in our ranks, many will be defeated by their own ignorance and void skill set. These are the ones who always look about and ask “How did this happen?”, instead of looking inward to answer the question.
The facts are there for you to review. Do it yourself.
Show me where DeSantis has demanded to Fix2020,
to END CHILD TRAFFICKING via Disney and their insidious crimes against children.
He hasn’t.
I would not stand behind a man who has no interest in protecting THE INNOCENT, those without a voice..
Children and Babies.
We rely on Sundance to notice these things. It’s not personal.
I keep posting this cause it’s true.
Lol. Desantis. The reason trump wins is he brings all working class fractions together. Trump isn’t normal politics. To suggest Desantis could do the same, he just isn’t that electrifying, more like non dole with a stick.
Kari lake ….? She’s much hotter but still not trump.
Matt Gaetz could be trump. Stop with this Desantis crap. He’s great, but he’s not got the magic of trump, never will.
Remember governor Walker? He lasted about 30 seconds in the ring with trump. Desantis is the latest shiny thing – like JEB! Or Walker, or Thompson what’s his name?
This was a weak response. He’s clearly running in 2024, whether Trump does or not. I don’t see it as McConnell approved but rather sending a message about what the issues will be in the primaries. (McConnell approves of open borders, vax mandates, and school shutdowns). I would have liked to have seen a more full-throated defense of us against Biden’s slander, and the point made that republicans acceptable to Biden aren’t acceptable to the republican base.
keep it simple
the rinos led by McConnell believe in anything the democrats believe
I think someone on the Laura Ingraham reads this blog!
Felt they had to give DeSantis cover for NOT speaking out.
Just a thought!
Did you notice how it is treated in the blurb?
At least they mentioned it before mentioning the golf outing. And the ‘what is the blast from the past (has been) doing now’ segment.
Talk about slow news day coverage. Ingraham didn’t even come out from vacation to cover Pedo Joe’s Fascistic Communism speech.
What would these radio talkers and back benchers do if there weren’t yearly holidays where they can take 10 days off.
Never forget the enemy is the dems, not Desantis.
If he wants to challenge Trump in a primary, it’s his right, its a free country.
Would hone skills of both.
Would love to see Trump/DeSantis ticket.
“Never forget the enemy is the dems, not DeSantis.”
The dems love it when we tear down our own. Having division and discord in our ranks is their desire.
biden’s Moloch Speech sought to do this very thing: create the MAGA Republicans as a group to be hated by other Republicans…and of course to be hated by dems.
The evil left wants to create division, for then they can conquer more easily. This is how Satan operates.
I am all for keeping a keen eye on any potential candidate. And I will watch, ponder, and wait.
Anyone who goes against Trump will be permanently marked, stunted forever more. Their essence will be summarized in a short phrase that is wielded like a branding iron.
‘Low energy’, ‘little hands’, ‘crooked’, ‘lying’, are all examples of past successful brandings. How will Trump brand DeSantis?
do you not recognize the SURVIVAL of the nation is at hand….the opposing parties are PATRIOTS vs TRAITORS….the traitors are willing to infiltrate and deflect the patriots as they are able to stunt their resistance to advances in their policies towards the destruction of America…..you wish to acquiesce in the 5th column activities of the enemy so their actions can be accomplished without incident
So you are suggesting Trump should brand DeSantis as ‘traitor’?
Or are you saying that I am acquiescing to the master infiltrator and deflector, Sundance?
I think ‘traitor’ should be reserved for Pence or Barr. Someone who has already stabbed Trump in the back. But I will roll with Trump’s flow. It is bound to be better than my thoughts.
And Sundance has an equally great record in sniffing out GOPe deceptions. And he brings receipts.
While supporting DeSantis, what he has been doing in Florida, and hoping he would join up as Trump’s running mate, I have watched NeverTrumpers try and try to make him an alternative to Trump. That doesn’t mean that he was. But I couldn’t but help wonder if DeSantis wasn’t going to be the next GOPe wonder governor.
You know the type. Fighter for all things conservative. An evil monster to every liberal everywhere. But then they wuss out on the national stage. Their consultants have them attacking conservatives and crossing the aisle to legislate the liberal dream into reality.
But those were just fears. NeverTrumpers are just evil that would say whatever it takes. And DeSantis was still doing right.
And then DeSantis started acting like he wants to be President in 2024.
And Sundance did some sniffing and brought the receipts. Where does he get his funding? Who does that funding? Are those funders controlling him? Is he dancing to a consultant’s tune? Why did he suddenly stop mentioning and supporting President Trump?
We have been duly warned. The GOPe has once again coopted a conservative leader into an infiltrator and deflector. As pointed out above, they are constantly running a double cross operation against us their voters.
I am suggesting RDS is UNCOMMITTED at this point but leans HEAVILY to the establishment….once they have his mortgage YES he has become a traitor to the best interests of America
Incorrect. Our enemy isn’t just dems. It’s also anyone who purports to be or attempts to look like something that they aren’t.
Focusing on the uniforms rather than the behavior of those wearing them is exactly what the uniparty wants you to do.
DeSantis would stab Trump in the back with glee to be POTUS. Never.
I fail to understand the late trend of DeSantis Derangement Syndrome here. What is the point? There are a hell of a lot more important issues to write about.
DeSantis is the Governor of Florida, he’s running his State. He’s done a damned fine job by any measure applied, better than any other Red State Governor. Whether he runs for the Presidential nomination or not is NOT important. Whether he is a more conventional politician and does things in-line with that philosophy by raising money from sources we may not like or cozying up to the GOP establishment is irrelevant. Whether he gives responses this site finds tepid or delayed is moot.
This series of continued DeSantis bashing just comes off as petty and trite.
You havent’ been reading/following any of this. Go back and read. No one is bashing DS. SD is pointing out how, although a great gov of Florida, he is in no way shape or form MAGA. SD has been showing how he is owned by the establishment.
RDS deserves the criticism Sundance and other treepers have given him.
ALL politicians are flawed and none of us should have a “BINKY”, lol!
BUT……
I’m still waiting for Sundance’s exhaustive critique of DJT’s role in the utter failure that was OWS and DJT’s IDIOTIC stubbornness not to DENOUNCE the mRNA death clot jabs at his rallies!!!!
A FAR bigger issue than going around in circles pro DJT or pro RDS!!!
If you took interest with truth, your comment would be very different.
People are stating truth about DeSantis, that’s not bashing; two very different things.
DeSantis has never demanded Fix2020
Never Demanded to end Child Trafficking via Disney.
TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA.
The republican party hates my existence. Stay off my property you pieces of schiff.
I appreciate any voice against the regime. But DeSantis has betrayed MAGA and is in the Club. He will not serve us well . He is not a fighter like Trump. He did not inspire the MAGA movement and won’t keep it alive.
I don’t know what Trump will decide to do. Fighting for us deplorables and this country is not something Trump has to do .Who is with him?
De Santis “The only Republican he(Biden) likes are Republicans who let him do what he wants”. The same is true of the Uniparty.
Their willingness to support DeSantis says volumes about Ron.
I hate to subject people who “seem” promising to a purity test. RDS has been a voice for conservatives all through the pandemic.
I would agree with you Nancy except we have an alternative to another “Bush” candidate like DeSantis. We have President Donald Trump. A real leader. Trump has some faults but he is true to us.
Trump is a once in a lifetime opportunity for this country to drain the corrupt political swamp. I do not want to settle for less if he is willing to serve.
Damn pathetic, he did test the waters. When the POTUS declares war on 2/3 to 3/4 of the citizens of the country, using a Hollywood lighting set right out of Nazi Germany to send a message, and you have to wet your finger and stick it in the air… If it looks like a RINO, walks like a RINO, talks like a RINO…
Disgusting
Swamp rats doing their swamp rat stuff.
Sundance tweet 6 hours ago👇
“I have one overarching issue that I look at in a national political candidate, ECONOMICS.
“National econ policy creates all other policies (nat security, foreign policy, trade etc).
“A candidate that is in line with multinational globalism & Wall St econ policy is not MAGA.“
source:
“A candidate that is in line with multinational globalism & Wall St econ policy is not MAGA.”
Sure, fine. But these articles go beyond some rational analysis that might be considered normal journalism if it was only in one or two featured articles. As it is, the series is coming off like yellow journalism. Either that, or someone is paying for these to be written.
Most people understand that politicians lie, but still find comfort finding a liar that tells them the lies that they want to hear. It’s the same for media news. Uncovering the truth is unsettling, and can cause some internal discord, but once you awaken you can clearly tell the dream from the reality.
“Normal journalism” is part of the problem.
Betrayal always breaks my heart.
yawn … when human’s depend on human’s for their ‘welfare ‘ … welllllll … take a look at human history … for me … i will ride the ‘coattails ‘ of my “CREATOR” until death do us part … play by … all of “HIS” rules and “HE” has got my welfare and what is best for me … “ALWAYS ” … human’s will ‘always let you down … and pat you on the back while putting a hole in your boat …….
I like Ron but he’s been corralled back into the Swamp
Make no mistake he’s got Koch bro money and gop-e hooks. I heard he was playing along but they’re not happy
My gut says you can’t trust the swampies
He’s not AF when it comes to Wall Street.
Best to keep RDS out on an island
The Ingram Angle? This guy is somethin else. I am already preparing myself for life under the Burnt Sienna Bootlicker Crist. Ron has one job to do and that is keep Florida between the ditches and that includes pushing back against the Junta threatening most of his constituents. He will either lose gracefully to Crist or abandon us 2 years in to “run hotfoot” to the campaign trail enraging voters which will invariably lead to another Demonrat being elected. I wish President Trump would run for Governor as an Independent. In two years when he runs for President we can draft Sheriff Grady Judd for the Governor’s Mansion.
And I had such high hopes for this guy in 2028!
So it’s all Trump or nothing? What if Trump decides he’s had enough and doesn’t run. Who then?
MTG
lol.
not DeSantis
That’s my question.
If Trump does not enter the race, who are the candidates considered to be MAGA, or Constitutionalists, or conservatives that are worthy of the Office and can realistically get elected?
Watching this unfold over the past several weeks has been very educational. To see popular opinion change so rapidly has been astonishing. I have never placed DeSantis on a pedestal but I never did with Trump either. That to some may be heresy
but I just consider it a practical way to live.
The sudden demand for perfection to an idea that even the leader of the current iteration of MAGA has failed to achieve
is very interesting. Everyone in politics from the president to media to bloggers has an agenda. Time will tell us what those agendas are.
Who in human history is the embodiment of the ‘perfection’ in/of man? All have always been flawed, nothing has changed. … your “I just consider it a practical way to live” holds true when we deal with what’s actually on our individual plate as dealt to us by something larger out of our control, results of our personal mistakes, by external malfeasant controlling forces over our lives each day.
“We must maintain pride in the knowledge that the actions we take, based on our own decisions and choices as individuals, link directly to the magnificent challenge of transforming human history.
DAISAKU IKEDA
Not many of us are chosen to make life affirming choices that serve to shape the future for themasses. In our own obscure individual lives, the lives of our ancestors, their choices and decisions; in positive or negative ways do impact how future generations make of their lives through everchanging forces and circumstances in human affairs. Spirit triumphs over corporal. Changing history or changing the future – survival choice.
Totally agree Tom. It has been a very revealing time.
I couldn’t be more disappointed in this man. I thought he was different. I thought he was a shaker. I thought he had courage. I did not think he was a puppet.