After waiting a full media cycle (26 hours) to evaluate the landscape, the team behind Florida Governor Ron DeSantis coordinated an “exclusive interview” with Laura Ingraham to give his opinion on the divisive speech by Joe Biden.
Carefully navigating the political waters to avoid the terms “MAGA republican” or “Trump,” DeSantis gave a down the middle approved republican rebuttal. WATCH:
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Republicans and DeSantis know the needle they have to thread: people want Trumpism but without Trump. And the needle DeSantis has to thread is how to be an economic populist and still be financially supported by Republican donors.
people want Trumpism but without Trump.
HAHAHAHA! You’ll have to do better than that, troll. 90 million voters wanted Trump in 2020. After 4 years of the commie in chief, expect that 130 million voters want Trump in 2024
Good for you!
< people want Trumpism but without Trump. >
Campaign slogan should be:
‘You don’t have like Trump’s tweets to vote for him…
You just have to love America’
Except me and tens of millions of his supporters like his tweets and don’t want him to stop. He won a landslide last election, but had it stolen. Imo he shouldn’t change much of anything, and hopefully we’ll have a way to reduce the cheating.
You are correct. Everyone on this board (including me) loves his tweets!
However, I was framing the message for the general (clueless) public
who also vote 🙂
If Trump got 74 million votes and there are 133 million registered voters, how did Joe Biden get 81 million votes?
The people who have been deeply involved in election correction for almost 2 years say it was closer to 81 million for President Trump and 68 for #pedohitler.
68 million absolute government leeching idiots in this country. Pathetic. If you are financially self reliant you do not vote Democrat.
….and there are 11M ILLEGAL ALIENS in the country too…..LOL……I would be surprised if Slo Joe got anything approaching 50M ACTUAL votes
Quite possible. I have not heard a tally lately. They pretty much know how many fraudulent votes were assigned in every state. Need to look into the numbers again.
11 million? You mean, like in 1990? There are way more than that. I’d guess at least 40million.
Thanks, I was going to say 40 million too!
4.5 million since Xiden took power Jan 21.
Common core math
Dominion and fractional vote counting.
Common Core Math
Biden did not get 81 million people to vote for him. Not even close. Maybe 45 to 50 million low IQ, still- breathing human beings voted for the Democrat candidate at best.
What he did get was illegally-manipulated and manufactured vote totals within enough states that added up to 81 million “votes.”
And as I survey this and other true “conservative” forums and my personal interactions, I am struck by just how few understand the depth and breadth of the 2020 (and here in GA the 2021 senate runoff) election steal.
I watched (in perpetual pain) the entire weekend streaming show sponsored by Mike Lindell several weekends ago. My recollection was there were only around 1 million viewers. The short movie “(S)election” was also shown.
This information focused on the machines part of the fraud and served as a complement to “2000 Mules” that focused on human fraud by packing voting boxes etc.
I have seen perhaps 1 mention of this in this forum and have heard zero in personal interactions.
I was the only person in my county to make an Open Records Act request of the Cast Vote Records from our Elections Commissioner which are vital to a comprehensive assessment of voting integrity in each county.
Adding insult to injury, I read the self-defeating posts here and elsewhere that “patriots” are not voting due to the fraud but yet very very few have even done their own research to understand the issues.
Unless and until more Americans, including it seems most “patriots” here and elsewhere, are willing to take the time needed to get up to speed on what is happening and then get involved locally to try to shift to paper ballots, serve as poll watchers etc. we will likely get the unspeakable horror of the kinetic “solution” our “Red Dawn” heroes are wanting.
I agree there has been scant discussion of 2000 Mules and (S)election Code movies. I watched them both.
I’ve watched at least a dozen or more interview videos of the people at the heart of the investigations behind these movies and in other states.
The evidence is overwhelming but I think most people don’t know what to do about it from where they live.
IMHO most folks are probably willing but truly need some leadership to guide them.
People on this forum are well aware the election was stolen, most of us watched it in real time. What would you like us to say about Lindell’s documentaries and “2,000Mules”? I was a pollwatcher, if you could call it that, snottily informed by the board of elections woman to sit across the room, from where I could see nothing and hear little. There was ZERO pushback or comment from the local GOP on the obvious steal, although I did get a happy, happy invite to the GOP dinner (celebrating WHAT exactly?) in December. I do recall the evening the GOP official gave us our pollwatcher certificates. She did not seem enthused. The GOP is on it all, we are up against the ENTIRE US “government” illegal mafia Uniparty, and all their unelected, appointed minions. Trump has proven he is unable to tangle with the big boys of this mafia, he ended up appointing THEIR judges, signing their big spending bills, he is no ruthless Putin.
I totally agree. I serve as an election worker in Ohio. We must all get involved.
Take binoculars. Ones that record, preferably.
He didn’t. He didn’t get near that many votes, and everyone knows it.
Well, everyone except those purple haired humans (I think they’re human??) on TikTok. They seem brainwashed beyond repair. They probably believe the DNC numbers.
Simple answer — he (Biden) didn’t!
He cheated!!!!
There is no plausible scenario where Biden had won with 81,000,000 ACTUAL votes. The biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American People.
What was wrong with Trump’s tweets? Riiight. The truth does hurt sometimes.
The Crisis is here
The ruling class keeps escalating
Where is the sanity, moral responsibility coming from despite the barrage of censorship,
intimidation, and control?
In the end, nothing is as effective in this battle of ideas than telling the truth
Exactly – and BTW Raymond, nobody cares about your “golf outing.”
A different opinion or view of the electorate makes someone a troll? I voted for the man twice but when Trump is gone what will the Only My Trump crowd do when they’ve been invested only in Trump for so long? Some folks may need to get their objectivity calibrated.
You want MAGA Deplorables to discard & go back to compromising our values simply because President Trump eventually retires??
That is unrealistic.
Maybe you have not noticed and/or really don’t care, but President Trump is the ONLY politician in our lifetime to have expressed AND implemented or tried to implement a very high percentage of Deplorables’ wants and desires of our federal government. Until he is out of the running, I will ONLY support him.
By the time he has served his full terms in office he will hopefully have identified a successor who will carry the same MAGA torch and corresponding policy agenda. If he does not, we will cross that bridge when we come to it.
Maybe after his second term as Prez he could become Speaker of the House or Senate Majority Leader
He’ll be 82 when he retires from the presidency in January of 2029. Let’s see how his energy is doing by then. I’d be happy to see him enjoy some years in peaceful retirement. Time will tell.
To your 1st paragraph, that’s not what I’m suggesting at all. I’m concerned that a moment will happen and Trump will not have identified a Trump ver. 2.0. If that hasn’t happened, right in the moment will be too late. We need to keep growing those people, or finding them, and, as you point out separate the values from the man.
No argument there. But seriously, have you identified anyone who has the same pro-MAGA drive and is even close to being as bold and fearless as PDJT in promoting those values in the face of sneering and violently hostile Leftwing / deep state / globalist opposition? Who has access to sufficient financial resources so as to be immune to Deep State / Lawfare attempts to harass the candidate incessantly to break them financially?
I haven’t yet seen anyone with the mettle that even approaches that of President Trump. I’m sure they’re out there. But they haven’t yet stepped forward.
MTG and Lake…
I like both of those women. Are either of them independently wealthy sufficient to finance a team of lawyers 24/7 for 5 years when Uniparty/ Lawfare comes after them with bogus charge after bogus charge after bogus charge? I don’t think so.
They each are functioning fairly well in their current, relatively limited roles but running for and being elected POTUS / Commander In Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces is an entirely different level of politics & responsibility than ether of them have ever experienced. DJT was CEO of a large multinational operation for decades before he ran for POTUS, yet he still was severely challenged and nearly overwhelmed by the vast amount of treachery, deception and betrayal that surrounded him.
This movement predates Trump and will outlive Trump. But the fact remains that we can’t let them get away with what they have done to him. We need justice. Imagine the precedent we set if we just walk away and say oh well, I guess we can’t win.
Please see my note replying to GB Bari above. Nowhere did I mention walking away & that’s not what I’m up for either. Just concerned that some may be unable to discern values from the individual personality.
Power tip for you. Before gut reaction tossing the “troll” accusation you might consider doing this.
search
site: theconservativetreehouse.com
and append the purported “troll’s” name and look at history of comments.
In this case site: theconservativetreehouse.com george s and see what comes up.
For example:
George S
April 27, 2021 4:17 pm
If a police officer, prevented from entering a premises to seize evidence without a warrant, enlists a private citizen to break in and retrieve it for him, both will find themselves charged with breaking and entering along with criminal conspiracy.
I don’t see why Big Tech enjoys a free ride on the same point.
Seems reasonable and un-trollish to me.
My
Well played. The switchblade snarky troll attacks often reflect too much time spent in the sewer of Twitter and other anti-social media platforms used by our mortal enemies.
Wall Street, the Globalists, China, the City of London — which are now making Florida their new host after destroying California and New York, are OK with Cultural MAGA represented in DeSantis.
Cultural MAGA virtue signals around wedge social issues like abortion, trans kids and punches soft targets like big tech censorship or CRT.
But Cultural MAGA NEVER addresses the STRUCTURAL ECONOMIC DEFICIT which is the Core of MAGA.
Trump MAGA successfully turned Globalism on its head and the USA Main Street had a Structural Economic Surplus (via Tariffs, Deals, onshoring, new factories etc). Trumps New Deal tilted economics back from Wall Street TO Main Street.
Now, the Globalists have invented Cultural MAGA.
This process is equivalent to how Obama-era Globalists coopted the anti-globalization networks of the early 2000s. Now those groups are literally left fascist globalist militia and mercenaries for rent.
The Globalists seek to capture Trump MAGA networks, remove Trump, and insert Cultural MAGA leaders friendly to Globalism, i.e. DeSantis and Younkin.
Cultural MAGA is a pathway away from Trump MAGA to RINO Maga.
Cultural Marxism is a pathway towards Globalist Oligarchial Socialism, as we see in Europe and China today.
DeSantis and Youngkin represent Cultural MAGA.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 correct mac!!!
The manipulation is ongoing and clear.
And “they” are pretty good at what they do.
(The subversion/co-opt thingy)
Right out of the cia playbook.
Best post/comment I have read here recently!
It’s curious timing that the social wedge issues expanded and exploded massively after Trump arrived; trans, CRT, masks, lockdowns etc.
These social wedge issues are in your kids face, literally, and more triggering than complex arguments about international trade, basically China and Europe ripping off the USA Main Street.
These newly arrived, massively expanded social wedge issues, now are in play, and are handy dandy bargaining chips for the Cultural MAGA Social Justice Warriors like DeSantis and Youngkin.
Cultural MAGA can now fight on the soft squishy cultural field and WIN, and they are hailed as heroes. Never mind, the rise of China, Russia etc. We won the masks and trans in school victory in Florida. Never mind the fact Wall Street oligarchs are moving operations into Florida and driving prices out for Floridians, we won the battle over Covid lockdowns.
Cultural MAGA is the new brand, new new face of the RINO, the MAGA Rino.
Has DeSantis created structural economic changes to Florida to bring industry onshore? The forcibly re-organize Wall Street’s power over Main Street? To regulate China investments in Florida?
Has DeSantis done a single structural ECONOMIC MAGA change to Florida?
I would suggest, obviously not. If he did, Fox and Alex RINO Jones, Joe Rino and RINO Musk would all turn on DeSantis.
Cultural MAGA fights on the new fake astroturf of social issues from the last few years of Cultural Marxist insanity.
The Globalists created new astroturf fronts in the Cultural Marxist program, so extreme that they will be easily rolled back by Cultural MAGA, and in the process a new agenda gets inserted, which loses the key Economic MAGA platform.
Cultural Marxists created Trans, Covid Masks, etc so that they have big red pinatas to be bashed by Cultural MAGA. While at the same time, they steal the real beef herd via the back door.
Never mind you lost your job and your house to Wall Street vulture capitalists and real estate funds (DeSantis’s funders). Your kids don’t have to wear masks or hear about trans in school.
Dont worry China is now the biggest economic and military power in the world, and all of the USA elite, which now happen to live tax free in Florida, are treasonous and embedded in Chinese capital networks. DeSantis just punched Google in the nose with a fine for free speech.
I think there’s a big shoe to drop in the Florida economy and that is the price of homeowner’s insurance. Property insurance companies are fleeing Florida as fast as possible. And the politicians are doing nothing to help ease the pain for Floridians.
It’s a very huge problem that you cannot get insurance on your house if your roof is more than 15 years old. If you live in a condo premiums have doubled. The Champlain Towers collapse caused havoc all over Florida in the market. Ron DeSantis needs to help solve this problem or he might not be able to look at a presidential run. Older people on fixed-income will not be able to afford to live in Florida. In my opinion.
Floridians need to push the Economic MAGA agenda. Show me the money Ron, not just the virtue signals.
Help Main Street in real and structural ways
weird collapse imho https://www.bitchute.com/video/4LScsGMpopJT/
And is also the basic Neocon philosophy: “socially conservative”, but Big Government warmongers otherwise. Excellent posts Mac, right on the money.
But don’t get it twisted, Desantis would not be popular in Florida if the economy weren’t doing well. Standing up to the mandates and shutdowns tends to help small businesses, and that’s what he did. Standing up for kids and better education is the right thing to do, always, and affects the economy of the future.
We can chew gum and walk at the same time.
Abortion (now actually infanticide in an increasing number of blue states) is a mere “wedge social issue?” Do you not see it as the most fundamental moral and spiritual litmus test issue of our time?
Have you studied what an abortion (as practiced by the vast majority of those getting them according to latest data—babies already formed and capable of feeling pain, not “merely” those “clumps of tissue” from conception that repubs write off in their compromises with our evil enemies) actually entails? It is the most horrific of vivisections.
Do you actually think Almighty God will bless an America that sees these horrors as merely a “wedge social issue?”
The globalists see it as a wedge social issue” to exploit. And they will sacrifice a few losses on the abortion issue to move ahead with their global property grab.
I agree that economic MAGA is more important than cultural MAGA, but they are both still very important and are both items that we need to constantly fight for.
I refuse to live in a world where I’m forced to wear a mask, get an unwanted vaccine, and pretend that men can give birth. I also refuse to tolerate critical race theory, unlimited immigration whether it be legal or illegal, election fraud, or abortion on demand.
I will continue to fight the woke social issues that were promoted by the left and the RINO establishment to distract us from MAGA economics, but I will also simultaneously fight for MAGA economics.
We can fight for MAGA economics and MAGA social issues simultaneously because they are both important even though the economic issues might be the more important of the two.
Cultural Marxism don’t exist in China. China is a Fascist country. It is not Communist.
Wow Joe Meek you got 161 up votes for your comment! That’s the most I’ve seen in a long time!
You are 100% correct!
PRESIDENT TRUMP is the only person who has turned the tide.
Thread that needle!
Others have been pure politicians; the time for playing 4 square with our Constitutional Republic is well past.
What a farce George S. Drink that koolaid. We know better
The establishment doesn’t want Trump, The PEOPLE, WANT trump!
Trumpism without Trump doesn’t exist as proved by decades of barely better than Dimocrat “Republicans.”
Why? Because Trump is the only OUTSIDER. Most of the rest have already proved what THEY are simply by being establishment approved and elected professional politicians.
And as a major clue for even the most ignorant, the establishment’s absolute HATRED of Trump and their endless efforts to first get rid of him while in office and, now, to prevent him from running again should be a very strong indication that HE is the only one that is an actual threat to their corrupt status quo.
except in all the polls Trump gets the most votes. consistently. Just because you like Desantis doesnt mean that therefore people want Trumpism but not Trump. YOU may not want Trump but you’re in the minority.
Now lets suppose Trump wins the nomination – are you going to be Never Trump or are you going to back Trump? Would you accept Trumpism with Trump as the leader? or are you going to bakc Joe biden and the dems like anti Trump Republicans did last time.
In other words is your pro desantis stance simply yet another variation of Never Trumpism. If so, I don’t need or want it. and if so, you’ll find that we can be as anti Desantis as you can be anti Trump. Never Desantis even if that means the dem wins. Should we go down that road and emulate never Trumpers?
Now if Desantis is the front runner I assume you think I should be pro Desantis. for the good of the country. Can we count on you to be the same if Trump wins nomination (or if, Desantis, never even runs). or are you then going to act like a little saboteur?
I’m seeing the latter from too many Desantis supporters. They’ll bash trump and say Republicans need to move on from Trump. But their petition is no different than the conservatives in 2016 saying we needed to back Ted Cruz as the only conservative in the room. Because if Hillary won she would remake America and only he could beat her as a conservative. And then Trump won the nomination. And the same conservatives then said “We need to prevents Donald Trump from winning even if it means Hillary gets to remake America.
I’m not going to abide more Never Trumpism under the guise that Desantis is the guy who should be running hte party instead of Trump if desantis supporters are then going to take their ball and go home if he loses. But they would expect me to back their guy for the good of the country as otherwise we’ll get four more years of Biden. Is four more years of biden conditional on whether Trump wins or Desantis wins?
I don’t want four more years of biden. But i’m not going to align myself with anyone who makes the pitch that we need to elect someone to prevent four more years of biden who then decides to not back Trump when he is the guy who wins the nomination. And frankly that would make me trust Desantis less. Anyone who would get the support of such a traitor should be viewed with suspicion. Why is Desantis getting support of Never Trumpers who then go on to support Dems. Must be a problem with Desantis. it would be like seeing a republican supported by Jonah Goldberg. Any Republican supported by that balding putz is an instant no for me.
So, if Trump wins are you going to back Trump? And if so, why are you now trying ot poison the well by saying Repubs want Trumpism but don’t want Trump? and if not, then don’t think you are aligned with me in any way. if not, then get out of hte Republican party and go join Evan Mcmullin and Jonah Goldberg.
So basically he’s a transvestite.
I LIKE TRUMP! Yep, I shouted it.
yeah, right … and people thought Mitt Romney would be conservative when he got that Utah Senate seat … we can see the s**t from a distance now …
They THINK that is what people want. They are desperately hoping that is what people want. They just don’t get it. They will never get it. DeSantis made his bed.
I’d be happy with Trump myself, thanks.
“Trumpism” Lol.
Spoken like a good Establishment soldier.
Spoken like someone who has not a clue about MAGA and America First.
Check the straw polling. DeSantis is over 50 points behind PDJT.
And don’t confuse conservative grassroots donors with corporate Republican donors. PDJT has hundreds of thousands of the former, and out-raises everyone.
DeSantis has sold his keister to a handful of the latter. And now they own him.
Duh… nope…. DeSantis is good for Florida… we will keep him… y’all just move on along…
Gee whizzzzzz what a bunch of hokum … DeSantis is a Democrat, DeSantis is a grifter, DeSantis doesn’t kiss Trump’s a$$ …. Just move on!
IS that you george scum conway?
Probably Georg Stephenpotamus. Or Soros?
BS. I want Trump.
I agree but it needs to be elaborated. “People” includes average every day democrats. Not the ideologues.
They don’t want high gas prices and power outages and high food prices any more than we do. Evidence is they are jumping the demonrat ship and looking for safe harbor in droves. But Orange Man Bad! has been pounded into them so long and hard it’s a huge emotional canyon to cross.
As for DeSantis whatever he might have been RNC/GOPe now controls him. How this happens only those effected truly know what goes on. Until one of them flat out says they or their families have been threatened with death or worse who knows what goes on?
Let the stone throwing begin.
Agreed Mycroft. “Orange Man Bad” is exactly the reason the DC swamp has scooped up DeSantis. Marxist democrats know they are losing voters. Their answer? Give them someone to vote for other than Trump. This will split the republican vote. Makes it easier to steal the vote.
Not only that, but it is more proof they are NOT going to lighten up their program in order to win back their voters. Full steam ahead. They may throw them a bone here and there, like student loan payoffs, but they are manipulating the regular, every day democrat voter base too. to your point Mycroft, I think we tend to forget that sometimes.
Only 30% back Biden now.
Their answer? Keep voting for us because Orange Man Bad. MAGA bad. But, if you must vote for other than democrat, at least vote for DC approved Non-Maga. In the meantime, they are grooming DeSantis to be that vote splitter in 2024.
Why would I want an imitation when I can have the real thing? I won’t get the full benefits of the authentic if I accept the imitation. It is like I have an imitation Tiffany ring; when it gets dirty and damaged, I can’t go to Tiffany’s and get it cleaned or repaired. I don’t get the benefits of owning an authentic Tiffany’s product to take advantage of their benefits. I don’t want Trumpism without Trump. At this point, I don’t believe the party wants Trumpism; they only want the people who support Trump and his policies. They’ll put up a candidate to take advantage of the people, and if they can get their imitator into office, they’ll switch and be like every other bought and paid-for shrill. We will get the imitation with a broken and dirty system and no recourse for redress.
People want Trumpism but without Trump? How wrong you are. People LOVED the “tell it like it is” approach and the America First agenda. People saw that Trump exposed what NO ONE else would have exposed. It was appreciated by 81 million voters and will be even more this time.
hahahahaaaa, sure like people wanting non alcoholic beer and meatless hamburgers by the millions, particularly the 81 Trump million voters hahaaaaaaaa….
Best you got?
Populist, Conservatives and CommonSence Americans want President Trump and then DeSantis if he wants to run.
How did George get to be the lead off post?
Who are the “people” you are referring to? The never-Trumpers?
Ann? Ann Coulter? Is that you?
Bulltit.
DeSantis’ presidential run is already toast, I think.
He also needs to win the Governorship again/
Check out the crowd and Trump’s wild reception, then get back to us about Trumpism without Trump. TROLL- Busted
This only moves up his political, presidential expiration date.
Keep talking, Governor. People will see the contrast sooner and clearer.
The MAGA movement are like bloodhounds.
It took him long enough.
I emailed him several weeks ago to let him know the gig is up and he’ll never be president. Piece of cake.
We need to let him know he’s not as cagey as he thinks he is.
I emailed him from our home here in. British Columbia.
FTR. I am a Canadian and put in the email that even we dumb Canadians can see thru the Governor.
Cheers!
Love this!
What a waste – DeSantis defeated the cocaine boy and the vote cheating to rescue FL from disaster. Then he fought the CCP-virus and the Uniparty-shutdowns. He was off to a good start. But he made a majorly bad decision, got lost along the way.
What might have been, if DeSantis had not sold out to RINO mega-donors. He’s toast.
Next MAGA man up!
Nah. He just showed his true chicken shit nature. It’s easy to be the tough guy when you know your audience backs you up. It gets tough when you get on a bigger stage and get scared that people actually disagree with you.
Compare to President Trump. Always the same guy, no matter the audience.
Easy to be the big guy when his whole legislature is on his side too. People bash Abbott but he has had to deal with democrat legislature much more than DeSantis. I’m not saying he is the best, but it pays to remember it’s easier for DeSantis to look good as governor.
DeSantis barely beat the naked cocaine party boy.
And he needed PDJT to do it.
and then he did NOTHING to correct the election problems….sure sure he moved a few officials around….no systematic changes
Mark Robinson. Lt Gov/NC.
Thank you from NC!!
A thousand up votes!!
If you don’t mention PDT or MAGA you are a a typical RINO Republican. You know …the ones that Biden “can work with”.
Exactly.
We are so past supporting parasite politicians feeding off the MAGA movement at the same time they are taking money from Biden’s “acceptable Republicans” and distancing themselves from President Trump which is the same as telling us exactly who they will side with if elected.
DeSantis? What a waste. He could have been a real MAGA contender. ” He could have been somebody.”
Game on, if you don’t mention MEGA you will be part of the Rino Club. It is over
Along the same lines of establishment Republican BS, on September 9th at 10:45 AM , Ohio Governor Mike DeRINO will break ground (wind?) along with Beijing Biden for the Intel chip factory in New Albany, Ohio.
All RINOs will be reppin’.
Meanwhile the voters? They’re gonna push Ohio GOPe Chairman Bob the Slob Paduchik OUT, likely by the end of the year thanks to all of the new MAGA supporting Ohio RNC central committee members voted in during the August 2022 special election.
Paduchik= DeRINO.
RINOs are a political loser and RDS will go on the ash heap of history if he continues down the Professional Political Class Parkway.
Also, I’m still waiting for a nationalist economic message from RDS.
With Trump, I know where he stands there….and no question his administration helped set up Intel in Ohio while Brandon and DeRINO will take credit for it and Les Wexner sits in the background with the land acquisition for the Intel construction project.
DeRINO’s role in this was taking orders from Wexner, handing out two billion dollars in tax abated money, and kissing enough Biden ass with strict COVID lockdown rules in 2020-21 to snag federal funding for Intel and other slush funds.
that new chip factory will employ very few Ohioans. Instead they’ll be bringing in tens of thousands of cheap, foreign, H1-B tech workers (and Democrat voters) from India and Asia. New Albany won’t be New Albany for too much longer.
Tony,
Where the Hell have you been these many years?
How’s Andy?
We are not a threat to a Constitutional Republic, the more accurate term for our form of government. The uniparty only uses the word democracy which America is not.
So true!
MAGA dittos!!
translate “Democracy” to Democratic Socialist state to a Dimm/commie
That is good change of wording. I just watch Uncle Tom 2 tonight. So sad how the Democratic Socialist/Communists and I will add to that Uniparty policies have destroyed once thriving black communities. This documentary really shows in their own words how they used a very unsuspecting group of people and are now poised for a socialist/communist takeover. But for Trump literally publicly confronting them every day most American people would not even realize. That God for raising up President Trump. There is no one quite like him!
I know you need to trash DeSantis as a Swamp Rat because you think not trashing everyone who does not share your opinion could erode your opinion’s position on the ladder. Cool it Sundance. I am tired of your anti DeSantis rants. He may not be what you want, but he could turn out to be the only chance we have.
Not a good time to make enemies of a politician who attempts to burn candles from both ends. The world of politicians is a lot different from our world and if we choose to eliminate the impure when we don’t like something they are doing, we will end up with nobody who can win. Elections don’t come out in our favor when that happens.
I support Donald Trump if he runs again. Until then, he just holds rallies to try to elect more of the people he likes. But don’t forget, Trump has made many mistakes choosing the people he favors. Maybe DeSantis turns out to be one of those mistakes, but so far, Trump hasn’t said so.
Cool it Sundance. I am tired of your anti DeSantis rants.
Then GTFO.
Respectfully I disagree with your GTFO. Like you I abhor RINOs. But dissenting voices in our cause should be respected. Otherwise we become divided and conquered. DeSantis is a good man who stands his ground. I’m all in for Trump but I fail to see what throwing The Guvnah under the bus will accomplish. The Demonic-crats are scorched earth to our constitutional culture. We need not tear ourselves apart.
Now this is a respectful, coherent, valuable contribution. Much more so than “Cool it Sundance, I am tired of your anti DeSantis rants.”
Thank you, Tallpaul.
Good show, but I never told Sundance to get off of this site.
“Otherwise we become divided and conquered.”
Is that not what the party RINO’S are doing that we are so against?
If you have ever been in the military, you would understand the power of “Unity”, and the dangers of “dissenting voices”, which has the same effects in non-military situations, like this 2024 Presidential Elections.
In our current presidential election situation, we have the track record of a proven national candidate, and an unproven record of a national, just state, candidate.
Why do you think the Democrats, and the establishment, are so afraid of Trump? You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out, just use a little common sense! United we stand, divided we will fail!
RDS has to have big money to run a Jeb! campaign in 2024.
Most likely sources are going have rhino or coke powder or fentanyl (CCP) on it….
Lol,upon closer inspection you’ll find it is jebs money…..well at least the same donors.
Agreed. Like I said I’m all in for Trump. As far as the military analogy as a vet I can appreciate that except I’m now a civilian and all I’m saying is dissenting opinions should be on the table. E Pluribus Unum….from many one. There’s plenty room on the table for dissenting opinions. Take what you like and leave the rest.
I agree. This is why the DemonRats win- they always support each other, no matter how evil.
You will never hear a Dem badmouth one of their own, ever.
Fellow conservatives- we have to stick together, don’t let the perfect get in the way of the good.
As it stands now, I haven’t seen any signs of enmity between our President Trump and DeSantis. Have you heard either one of them trash talking the other one?
Do we know for sure that DeSantis is really going to try a run against our President? I sincerely doubt that he would be that foolish.
My undying loyalty is to our President Trump. If for any reason he decides not to run and the choice is RDS, then I will vote for him. Simple.
RDS has done a really good job for the people he represents. DJT hasn’t announced yet…but if for some reason DJT doesn’t run then it seems that RDS is the next best choice..although it wouldn’t be so great for Florida. Seems to me that RDS, not being a billionaire like DJT, needs to just be careful to see what happens. If he does run he’ll need a ton of $ but hopefully as POTUS he would govern the USA the way he governed FL.
I’d like to see DJT get 4 more..and then RDS for 8.
But RDS is not going to draw 20,000 to 80,000 supporters wherever he goes.
Sorry.
His real best Prez plan is/was coat tails 2028.
Sorry, if it’s not PDJT then it sure as hell wont RDS. Believe me, someone will emerge as a 100 per cent MAGA candidate. Right now all RDS is showing us is that he is capable of joining the RINO camp while trying to show MAGA folks that he isn’t. Typical decepticon as SD would say. No compromise, no surrender, MAGA or die tryin.
And how are we to know who are RINOs unless it is discussed. That is not a lack of unity. That is discernment. The Commie-Dems do not need discernment to have unity. There is no crook/ pervert/pedo shortage.
Amen
Very well said. This dynamic of piling on each other confounds me. Leave the musket cocked and primed for the real enemies… the obvious ones. While I hate everything liberal/progressive I have to say I’m amazed at their ability to stay United and in lockstep. They don’t seem to eat their own as some do in the conservative blogosphere. As a conservative constitutionalist I believe in the marketplace of ideas. Through debate and civil discourse the better ideas rise to the top. But above all mutual respect for one another. I hope Sundance is wrong about DeSantis. If he’s right I’ll stand corrected and the first to sing his praises.
Thank you for your thoughtful comments. I think we are coming from a similar place.
The Commie Marxist Dems who read Sundance and the commentary must be laughing their asses off as they watch us fight amongst ourselves while they wage an all out war against us.
Why the hell are we wasting time arguing about DeSantis when he has been trying more than any other governor I know of, to implement the MAGA agenda in his state??
Has our President Trump ever said anything against RDS that I missed? And why would our President choose to set up his HQ in Florida if he thought RDS was the enemy?
We conservatives need to stop with the never ending circular firing squad!
The hour is late and we are faced with an enemy that will stop at literally NOTHING to destroy us, our families and our Republic. There is no time for this bickering.
Judge a man by his actions, and RDS has done some pretty incredible things as governor. He is showing the other dopey Repubs how to use their power.
In a few days the “official” election season begins in our states. This may be our last chance to take out some of the Demonics in Congress and our legislatures.
ALL of us need to do whatever we can to get out the vote in our own towns and districts. Then worry about RDS and political purity.
I agree with your disagreement to toss out dissenters, but I also fully disagree with your go along to get along attitude of accepting evil in our mists because they are evil and I do not sit and work with evil, nor give my good name to it’s purposes.
That acceptance of “OUR” evil is OK, because it’s “OURS” is the enemy in the shadows of our highest offices.
This is why we are in this terrible position we find ourselves today. We and our forefathers have failed their duty to keep the evil out. They have failed so miserably that they have given their support to that great evil in the same failed belief of “Going Along To Get Along” attitude as they corrupted our halls and poisoned our Country and citizenry.
I will continue to stand against the evil, even if it wears my fellows face.
You really should work on clearing out the corruption and evil that is “Representing” you, unless you embrace evil, then you can just continue with your go along the easy pathway to hell for the country under the vile #SWAMP leadership.
Geesh Libby I said I hate RINOs and you’ve inferred what I did not imply. Under no circumstances did I indicate that we should tolerate the progressive mind-rot of the left. As far as I’m concerned they are our mortal enemies and you are right on point as far as that goes. I’m not saying you accept their mindset at all. What I am saying is that a fellow CTH should be respected and not be told to GTFO for discussing his dismay with bagging on DeSantis. He could have been more artful in expressing that but he didn’t deserve that kind of response.
Pokey told Sundance to “shut up.” So much for allowing “dissenting voices” on the blog owned by Sundance. In the end, it is Truth that should be spoken. I have a feeling the Almighty God is going to no longer allow Satan to have a dissenting voice to the Truth. One cannot mix the Truth with Lies and still end up with Truth.
And I sure didn’t tell you to shut up. I think Sundance can take my point and I am also sure he is committed to his interpretation of the facts he has. I wouldn’t read anything he writes if I didn’t think he is usually doing the best he can to get to the truth. But I believe he could easily be wrong about DeSantis and I am opposed to this damned circular firing squad. We lose every time we try to become purists. This is the major failing of the Libertarian Party and Republicans want to remain a big tent party. I don’t know how they expect to remain one by opposing the only real leader they have had in over 40 years, and that is an issue I have with them. But, since they have been backed into an untenable compromising position by the Democrats, they have made a series of bad moves that have them crying for help from their former legions of rich donors.
Unfortunately, the richest people in the world are only interested in their own economic power and will settle for any political gang that will enrich them even more. Right now, the Democraps are that gang. In other words, we are up against every power structure in our culture and we can’t afford to trash each other because we don’t agree on every point. I was trying to tell Sundance to slow down with the trashing of what looks to me like our only backup plan if Trump gets taken out by the 4th Branch.
You can believe what you want. Make up whatever you want. The truth about RDS is something else entirely. An assumption that RDS is the deal if MAGA PDJT does not run is BS. Lets see where RDS money comes, right now I’m inclined to think RDS is about to scam MAGA. That’s just what Uniparty does. Simply put, there is a MAGA party rum by PDJT and there is a Uniparty run by the others. They’re values are not MAGA values. MAGA are true blue Americans, the others are not. If Trump does not run, someone will take the torch for us MAGA people. MAGA has 80 million voters,,,,,Republican, Democrats aren’t even close. 50 Million with cheating and illegals, and dead folks.
And if DeSantis becomes our nominee because Trump decides either not to run or cannot run, are you going to vote for the Obama Gang and give them a 4th and final term? We would all do well to focus on our real problem, which is that if we don’t start winning somehow, we will never have another chance to be a part of a Constitutional Republic. We can straighten out our differences after we defeat Obama and his Gang Green.
DeSantis silence regarding the totalitarian and anticonstitutional raid of Mar a Lago doesn’t support at all the statement: “DeSantis is a good man who stands his ground “
TCTH is quite a tough crowd to deceive, similar to that 30% of humans, that according to studies, seem inmune to “mass formation”. The 25-30 % that recognize early on totalitarian drifs in their goverments while the rest are still bying the propaganda hook, line and sinker.
Yes, when something smells fishy we tend to circle and sniff till the real truth comes out or is proven.
You’re wrong he came out with some harsh statements about the fbi raid. Somehow you missed it. I wished he would have said more. I stand by his leadership and wonder why so many are so qwick to throw him in the ditch. When I hear Trump bagging on him I’ll then consider your comments.
He didn’t speak out till he was shamed into it. He waited till his silence started speaking too loud than to turn off any other way, and then the comment was milder than needed to dispel suspicion
Sundance is right!
In all honesty, I was going to stop going on the Last refuge if the Anti-DeSantis didn’t stop. I love My Guvna and also love Donald Trump. DeSantis is a very reasonable Practical politician, and has shown more guts than any other Governor. Abbott doesn’t even come close. What happens if God Forbid Trump Can’t run, then what? DeSantis is our only hope.
Kari Lake will be a better choice than DeSantis.
My hope is that these posts about the grooming of DeSantis will allow him, DeSantis, to understand and see the options open to him to stop the assimilation, because there is time to learn to stand and be his own man without the political groomers, because that’s really what they are, groomers, enticing politicians to act this way, don’t act that way and ‘we’ (the Big Club) will reward you by being nice. No difference, he still has time to wake up and realize there are better options available.
Desantis appears to not understand even the financial power of MAGA supporters. That is why he went to big money. He is that out of touch with this movement. This interview shows how hurriedly he wanted to get away from even talking about MAGA.
Then we are screwed.
That was righteous. I thought the point of this blog is for us to discuss Big Government issues. Maybe if you italicized your reply to me, it could have looked even more emphatic. I am entitled to my opinion and you are entitled to ignore it and supply your own opinion, if you have one. I don’t give a crap what you want me to write.
That last sentence earned you moderation….
CRAP gets moderated but GTFO gets a pass!
Not a pass….also in moderation.
Really?Are you Moderating me for pointing out an inconsistency ? If so OMG. Please tell me I’m wrong.
You misread my comment. I meant “Joe” was already being moderated.
Gotcha!!! Thanks for clarifying. 😀
You have the patience of a saint and the wisdom of Solomon!
Dream on …a pre 2020 optimist , sorry , But with President Trump didn’t “they”say he was impure , contentious and a very very bad meany (BTW I think they are STILL saying that , but added he is a threat to Democracy lately , but you can check me on that )-check your 401k and gas prices … But I notice you glided right into Ron Running … anyway …
The organized crime syndicate must be feeling really threatened to send you here. Since you’ve blown your cover it’s time to try another venue.
So, all those people who show up at Trump’s rallies, are there for the candidate he supports, not Trump?
Also, can you name one, just one other person who has a better track record at picking winners than Trump?
Good observation
picking winners does not mean picking conservative or maga candidates. One winner picked – aka endorsed – by Trump isMitch McConnell, who won his race. He picked – aka endorsed – Paul Ryan and McCain who also won. Going by Trump’s picks I have no idea what a Maga candiate looks like, all I know it is a candidate very likely to “win”, not necessarily to be a maga candidate.
Before covid and the 2020 fraudulent election, how up to date were you on politics? How informed and astute were you to the Rino Republican Uniparty decepticons convoluting and corrupting our government?
Sundance has highlighted all of those who seek to destroy America. Sundance merely points out obvious and not so obvious players, connections, and plots. You as a free thinker have the ability to further research or blindly follow. DeSantis hasn’t declared he’s running. Sundance isn’t sabotaging anything. He’s merely pointing out where it appears Ronnie’s allegiances now lay. I personally won’t go back to eyes wide shut now that my eyes are wide open to what’s going on. I won’t be fooled by the Rinos and uniparty establishment. If you don’t like what Sundance says about Ron then fine, Disagree. Just know a big fat I told you so will be in order if Sundance turns out to be right. Diligent research and discernment are going to be needed if we are going to take back our country by electing real America first, America always candidates. Stop demonizing the messenger and actually look at the message. People will always show you and tell you exactly who they are if you are willing to listen!
Agree. Sundance has a nose for the RINO fakes and can see through the Matrix.
Agree 100%!
Once one has decided in their mind that someone is the enemy, anything that person does will be viewed in a nefarious light.
DeSantis has flunked pureblood tests wrt to Trump, and separately, the vaccines, which are still problematic for DJT.
RDS can still do important good works in 2022 and 2024, even enhance himself for 2028 if he supports DJT better.
Just be warned any activity that undercuts PDJT’24 or embraces establishment money or activities hurts RDS, badly. We’re not just sick of the accelerating western civ genocide into some CCP flvored AI tyranny, we’re ultra allergic, hyperaware and resistive.
Small tells to betrayals trigger a serious reaction.
This latest cagey response to Furher Pedo Joe’s satanic rant is not exactly proving Sundance wrong, it looks more and more like RDS is a controlled opposition shill. I am not saying he has not done good things for Florida. But I am not seeing a strong MAGA ethos, like MTG or Massie. He didn’t exactly rise to the defense of “Maga Republicans”, accused of being a threat to Pedo Joe’s globalist “democracy” in the satanic rant.
Pokey (and the 20 readers who clicked on the ‘thumbs up’ sign)- then, why don’t you give us a rational explanation for RDS behaviour and parsed comments since, say, the August 8 raid at MAL?
By clearly and accurately pointing out his take on RDS Sundance is, once again, showing us the RINO marionette strings
which we now cannot unsee.
Right now DeSantis looks more of the same, another Uniparty candidate to give voters the illusion of choice. Small concesions to TRUMP MAGA ideas. He even copies Trump’s signature hand gestures 🙄, just to be liked enough.
If elected he won’t be any different from the Bush, Cheney, Clinton clans… the bunch of independent but previously democrat leaning voters that chosed Trump over Hillary/Biden WILL NOT vote for a RINO Republican.
Problem is, as President, he could be seriously compromised by other peoples’ money, as are most in DC, giving US the current situation.
Sorry, that’s not what’s called a “problem” , that’s what’s called “business as usual”…
“Business as usual” is the problem.
in a circular way, I guess you are right , and I think Ron would continue “the business” , perhaps a little smoke and mirrors added for effect ….
As I go down the list of postings I see that, once again, a discussion about MAGA and America First candidates has been sidelined by one poster making inflammatory comments about the f’ing vaccine, for heaven’s sake, and everybody immediately gets their ‘knowledge ego’ activated and off we go into a completely unrelated argument/discussion.
What the hell is the matter with you people????????? If you don’t learn now, in a forum like this, to KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE BALL, you will be forever wandering and ineffective. Distraction is what lefties do. It’s how they deflect from what is really going on. Wise up. Learn to keep your eye on the ball and throw these bums out of this very valuable forum.
Oh look! A chicken! hahahahaha. I know, it’s frustrating. Herding cats. hahahaha
Knowledge Ego…..that’s brilliant. I know I’m guilty of it sometimes. But we don’t want to be an echo chamber either. Yes. Stay ON TOPIC.
Next time DeSantis is in front of a camera, someone needs to ask him his view of Ukraine. Is he in favor of the tens of billions of dollars and and weapons we’re supplying to the Zelensky regime? What does he see he see as the endgame?
His answer, I believe, will confirm his establishment bona fides.
Of course he is. He hired a corrupt Ukrainian idiot for his campaign instead of an AMERICAN.
What the h3ll is she doing here in Florida? Haven’t we learned anything after the deception of the Chalupas and Vindmans.
Being a former JAG ( see Lindsey Graham) the military industrial complex is his cup of tea.
does that make both JAG offs?
asking for a friend
So now the DC Stasi can prolly use that to blackmail DeSantis if he gets ‘out of line’ from their agenda. Charge him with some type of crime related to his ‘shady’ Ukrainian campaign staffer.
DeSantis’ establishment bona fides is now conclusively established after a rush of simultaneous events recently confirming that fact beyond a reasonable doubt.
However, those that are annoyed with the kvetching are correct also. It serves no useful purpose in our fight to offload Biden and the Dems at a landfill where they belong. Mitch and his Purple Gang enterprise will do what they will do. Nothing can stop that!
Our goal is to work against them, to defeat both Dems and the Big Club Republicans to save our Nation from both of these despicable abominations.
For that purpose, getting involved is the only solution. Make connections with others on the ground! Even if you can’t commit as much time as others, just being there shows solidarity and bolsters the commitment of others.
Let’s not all just watch the big event from our chairs. IT’S TIME FOR AMERICA TO SPEAK IN A LOUD OVERWHELMING VOICE.
Most of our politicians have indeed failed to speak out for us. It’s time now for us to do the job ourselves!
Yes. That would be an excellent test. I’d like to see how he’d respond. His views on foreign policy are the big question I have about him. Unfortunately, not many republicans outside of people like us on this site are wise to the foreign wars scam and money transfers that go along with them. They just reflexively support whatever idiotic military action republican leaders initiate.
His silence on this topic is your answer.
Everyone inside Washington knows Trump is getting indicted. That decision was made before any warrants were issued or searches performed. The GOP is fine with that since they want Trump gone too, even if it means they get dumped in the process. All this grandstanding about investigating the FBI, the DOJ and the like is nonsense. The GOP wouldn’t dare do that. No chance that happens.
They can try to glom-on to DeSantis as their savior, but it won’t work. If Trump gets indicted and is taken out of the 2024 mix, more than half of the republican voters will just skip the 2024 cycle. Yes, it will likely finish this country off, but doing what we’ve been doing for the last 50 years has taken us to the edge. The GOP is not your friend. They’ve been sleeping with the enemy for over 50 years.
No more hold your nose and vote. Vote for great America-First candidates, but that’s it.
Indeed, if Trump is taken out of the 2024 mix, the MAGA block + independent Trump voters WILL refuse to participate in another charade of fake free elections.
The reality of the Uniparty impossible to hide any longer from American voters and the whole world.
From predicted red wave to Uniparty doom.
This is the Uniparty plan, it’s brilliant actually. Heads they win, tails we lose. With a RDS presidency, business as usual, they win. If the America First crowd stays home in 2024, four more years of Democrat’s American demolition, they also win. They will have their authoritarian fake ‘democracy’ and MAGA will be effectively crushed in their minds at least.
If the Uniparty’s wet dream comes to pass and we are treated to 4 more years of their shit either way, I think that people will continue to wake up and the resistance will continue to recruit and grow. I think like the Tea Party evolving into MAGA, maybe an even stronger movement emerges from the ashes. I hate to think it but, in the absence of a Trump presidency in 2024, both of the other choices end the same way. I don’t see us recovering with a throttled DeSantis presidency. Rock bottom is still a ways away.
Ever since the article on Governor DeSantis funding from the Globalist corporate elite, I have doubts about his loyalty to the American people. Corporate dollars always come with strings attached, and in this case, the RNC donors want allegiance to the crony corrupt system of fleecing the taxpayers for their profit and control. They will turn on the spigot for DeSantis to win, but there will be payback, at our expense.
You’re not wrong, but another aspect of it is that big donors want a seat at the table so they back who they think will win. There’s clearly a faction of donors who think DeSantis will win and want a seat at the table. It’s similar to how otherwise conservative business people donate to local Democrats. Kind of like a protection racket.
Open Letter….
Sundance,
I’m very sorry to have to write this, I truly thought I would never have to. I know this is your blog but respectfully, please, your twice/trice weekly attacks on DeSantis should stop.
First, starting your attacks on DeSantis before this next November could hurt the Republican base in Florida and could even be used by Crist. Why not wait until after the governor elections? Do you want Crist as Florida’s governor? I sure as hell DO NOT! Second, there are a lot of things that we don’t know, and sorry, that “we” includes you too bud. Speculation as gospel can be a dangerous thing. This is not like you.
The presidential elections are more than two years away. This is not the time for these attacks, and there are a lot of reasons why attacking DeSantis, at any time, would be misguided. I’ll just list a few reasons (questions) below:
1) Can you tell with absolute certainty that Trump and DeSantis are not in this together? I know I can’t, but there is a possibility that they are. They are friends. And DeSantis IS NOT GOPe Pence. Of that I’m 100% certain. Why would they be working together? Well:
2) Have you ever heard of having a “Plan B”? When it comes to us winning the 2024 Presidential election, WE MUST have a Plan B. President Trump is a very smart man. He knows that the whole establishment is against him. They are in desperation mode attacking MAGA. That much is now certain. They will stop at nothing to stop Trump. That said, I know that the MAGA spirit will not die.
3) Do you think that Trump would want DeSantis to take the arrows that are being shot at him? And to be very clear, I have absolutely no doubt that if Trump is able to run for 2024, he will win the primary hands down. I pray for that…
4) But what then? Do you remember the GOP Presidential primary in 2016? Do you remember how the GOPe RNC rules controversy (“white knight”) was being used to possibly remove Trump as the Republican candidate? I do, and although Trump did finally win, there is no reason that the GOPe couldn’t try to change the rules as they see fit the next time.
5) What makes you think that if Trump easily won the primary, it couldn’t happen again? In that scenario what would the GOPe do if DeSantis did not run, run as a MAGA candidate and come in second?
6) As for “cozying up” to the GOPe: DeSantis is not a rich man. If we ever needed him to run for President, or if DeSantis is indeed “Plan B”, he’s going to need Other People’s Money. And you will have tainted him as GOPe. Whether he is or not.
It can be dangerous not knowing how pesky unknowns’ work. Always plan for worst case, and always have a Plan B.
Regards,
JAS
Well said!
If i may respond from the maga side…. imo speaking for many of us, we’re ready to starting snuffing out (politically) the RINOs in their crib. The RINO enemy-inside-the-gate is more dangerous to our Republic than the Commie Dems, and so must be eliminated, stomped in the ground, and then we can focus one hundred percent on the Prog virulence in front, without constantly being stabbed in the back.
This is the question: Does DeSantis want to be governor of Florida or POTUS. He CANNOT be both.
I am not voting for DeSantis only to have him abandon Florida because he will be consumed with running for POTUS for the next 2 years. I want a governor who is committed to Florida.
You want to bury your head in the sand that is our prerogative.
I choose to have as much knowledge as I can before I give someone my vote.
Your anger should be placed on DeSantis. His re-election was a slam dunk but he chose to run for POTUS.
Also, I’m not stuck in yesterday. There is no more D vs R. There is only MAGA or DC corruption.
The 2016 election was won because the candidate wasn’t beholden to large donors. I’m not going backwards.
DeSantis can choose to be financed by the little people also.
Take your gopE talking points somewhere else.
DeSantis made this mess not sundance. And I am not afraid to call DeSantis and his drones out for their gopE BS.
SO, you’re not voting for DeSantis for governor? That’s just swell! You are there reason I wrote the letter to Sundance.
And you’re accusing me of being GOPe? Where the hell did you get that idea?
Why am I going to vote for someone who has no intention of being Florida’s governor?
If DeSantis is committed to Florida that is a different story.
I don’t suffer from BATTERED CONSERVATIVE SYNDROME.
If you choose to allow corrupt politicians to abuse you, I cannot stop you.
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You make some very good points but too many people are sort of dense and far too many even MAGA Republicans have bought into some anti-Trump nonsense, such as believing that J6 were “riots”, or that “Trump is a narcissist” (or “mean tweets”).
Also, Sundance is pointing out what are essentially betrayals and omissions of MAGA issues and support that — using your same governor race timeline — make no sense to be doing “now”. Why isn’t DeSantis waiting on this “pivot”.
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Mercy! We’re MAGA 100% and we have no need for anyone who isn’t. We dont get into all these silly what if’s and assumptions.
We’re screening candidates and everyone in office. If they falter to our cause, they are toast. We’ll find someone who doesn’t and support them.
is this simple enough for you to understand?
Sorry JAS, but number 6 says it all:
“As for “cozying up” to the GOPe: DeSantis is not a rich man. If we ever needed him to run for President, or if DeSantis is indeed “Plan B”, he’s going to need Other People’s Money. And you will have tainted him as GOPe. Whether he is or not.”
In short, you state he has NEED OF FUNDS for election, period. That he is then beholden to those that give you money, or buy something for their help, or more blatant, BRIBERY.
I can not suffer evil, especially committed in my name (Representatives). His acceptance is his aiding the greatest of evils that have caused so much world wide suffering for their dystopian utopian dichotomy of enslaved masses for their elite few.
I will stand against the evils I see and fight as any good person should. Especially if it is against those claiming to “represent” me and use my good name to foster their continuing evil schemes.
By the way, Ron DeSantis got into office before the big corporate donors came out of the woodwork to bribe, I mean buy, I mean donate for future possibilities.
So what you’re saying is that only the people who have their OWN millions of dollars to spend on a run for the office of the president can be considered corruption-proof candidates?
If so, you have a real cognitive deficiency….
“your twice/trice weekly attacks on DeSantis should stop.”
Really? You look awfully confused with your “should”… In another person’s blog? SHOULDN’T you start your own blog and give it whatever editorial leanings you wish?
Ownership of this blog and Sundance’s temperament I respectfully submit would not agree with your point. He has masterfully crafted in this blog a profound respect for differing opinions. Telling people to go elsewhere just seems small minded. Ever hear of the statement about not agreeing with a statement but defending the right to say it to the death? JAS is not throwing grenades he/she is expressing a well articulated disagreement. A dollar to a donut bet that Sundance would and does welcome differing opinions. He is very adept at defending himself. Save your vitriol for your real enemies. They surround you as we speak. We’ve all been burned by RINOs far too long so I get you’re angst but just remind everybody let’s cool the temp a few degrees.
President Trump needs to declare his candidacy tonight. Screw the $100 million pac fund. He has to be able to raise a lot more than that now, and now is the time for raising it. If he can’t he shouldn’t run anyway. But I believe he can easily.
I still think DeSantis is not running. It only is what the Dem’s and Fox would like.
If you could get some specific evidence about the two men’s opinions of each other at the present time, I would be surprised if there is a problem between them. Never get it from to the horses’ mouths.
If Trump announces tonight, DeSantis would have no choice but to endorse Trump’s reelection in exchange for Trump’s endorsement of DeSantis in the Gubenatorial election. Other than that If DeSantis critical or indifferent to Trump(or vice versa) in the next two months DeSantis he may get upset by Dark Horse Crist. DeSantis would be forced to run for both Governor and President at the same time.
Trump can initially put the burden of division on DeSantis. I’m sure that both men have discussed these things and are reasonable. Some investigative work may reveal this.
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Trump cannot declare his candidacy “now”. It will make his use of donations subject to FEC. It will not increase donations or rally attendance or support. It will give lawfare more time to come up with crap lawsuits to try to keep him off the ballot.
Why do people not get this?
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Exactly. It would place limits on how he can raise and spend money and impact tv or other media appearances. It would be extremely unwise for him to declare now. Lindsey Graham was urging him to do so. Does anyone think Lindsey Graham is thinking of Trump’s best interests?
Dems do NOT want DeSantis to run, though. They hate and fear him almost as much as Trump if not even more. The moment he declares (IF he declares) he is running, all hell will break lose.
You may ask why they hate him so much? Because they think he is smarter than Trump (that’s what they are saying) and poses even a greater threat. The guy is young, articulate, popular, good looking, with a lovely family, a veteran, a former congressman who knows how Congress operates, AND has a track record of the best Governor. Let alone he will deliver Florida, hands down.
DeSantus will appeal to normies, independents, veterans, MAGA if Trump endorses him (if Trump decides not to run himself), moderate Republicans who dislike “vulgar” “unpresidential” Trump and his mean tweets, moderate Democrats, and he is not filthy rich (he is “one of them”) and does not have the “baggage” Trump has. A lot of people voted for Romney, a lot more will vote for DeSantis because he is a much, much, much better candidate than Romney ever was.
People are waiting for PDJT to finally announce whether he is running or not, which should happen after the midterms. If Trump says he is running, many people, including DeSantis, will most probably not run. If Trump is not running, DeSantis is our best chance and trying to undermine him just to prevent him from potentially running against Trump is shortsighted and counter-productive.
GOPe is a target-rich environment. Aim your anger at a more deserving target, not at the best Governor whose only “fault” is not invoking Trump’s name.
DeSantis is a good candidate for governor NOT for POTUS.
I’m not interested in more wars and funding the military industrial complex.
I’m also not interested in REPUBLICANS. Especially REPUBLICANS who voted to fast track TPP when they were in the House of Representatives.
I am done with the GOP. I’m voting for outsiders.
The future is candidates like Kari Lake NOT GOP DeSantis.
That’s fine. A lot of folks said the same about Rubio and many other CANDIDATES.
He’s not smarter than Trump, and certainly doesn’t have the guts Trump does.
Imagine in WW2 when the Nazi’s were targeting a specific class of people, in this case, Jewish people and imagine if the leaders of the free world never used the word Jews to educated and condemn who specifically is getting targeted.
Imagine if they just said a chunk of people are being hurt or targeted.
IMO a true leader is unafraid and calls out attacks and the targeting of a class of people by their group or class name.
In this case that word is MAGA.
Americans need truth vs political speech as we have had enough of that from Graham and McConnell and so many others who have failed the American people.
By the way has DeSantis ever condemned the outrageous attack and persecution of the Jan 6 citizens who have had little if any due process?
McConnell IMO wants nothing more than the word MAGA to disappear and it truly seems odd that in the past few weeks, DeSantis seems to refuse using that word even though this sub group called MAGA makes up 90-95% of the Republican Party.
My light is flashing yellow right now and will continue to watch and listen more intently on what is said and in this case, what is NOT said.
Sundance is warming us the GOP establishment is grooming DeSantis for 2024 as the Trump alternative. MAGA lite, just 1 calorie. He’s the MAGA vote splitter to stop Trump.
They’ll probably only run 1 GOPe candidate, learning the lesson from the 2016 clown car that failed to deliver the nomination to Jeb Bush.
POTUS continues to praise DeSantis as “best Gov. ever” and has not indicated anywhere that there is friction between the two men. And I read on Gateway Pundit last week that one of DeSantus’ attorneys has been added to DJT’s team Re: the Mar Lago break-in.
I have never felt Ron would run if PDJT announces—but we will see. I am always Trump first or Trump ONLY. But I am not willing to throw DeSantis under the bus, until my president indicates there is a need to.
Still haven’t seen anything in terms of policy and positions I don’t like about DeSantis. Nothing.
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It’s the omissions.
Omission is the most difficult kind of conjob to detect. What is NOT said.
Where are the statements about the raiding and diverting of U.S. treasury to Ukraine. Where are the statements about the J6 protesters languishing in prison pre-trial. Where, of late, are the statements pro-MAGA. Etc.
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So you like the fact that desantis voted for TPP?
Did you like his TPP vote? His silence on the stolen election? On Stalag Jan. 6? Inaction on Dominion CheatWare?
He’s on the Club payroll. Yes, he’s done some good things. But he’s lukewarm when it comes to destroying Goliath. We need more Servant Davids, not more David Gergens.
ok, Ron’s your man for guv.
Hey Aero, what do you know about the illegal federal land grab that is attempting to steal control of 30% of ALL USA land by 2030 and they want 50% shortly after and others already pushing 75% and 100%?
DeSantis and thereby Florida are working hand in glove with illegal 30 x 30 federal land steal.
Give him time.
Character is probably more important than stated policies and positions.
You don’t destroy corruption by playing ball with it.
Biden’s whole speech was about his distain/hate for MAGA and Trump. The fact that DeSantis never mentioned either, is troubling.
Is DeSantis morphing into Ted Cruz?
Another Cruz?
Great, we need another one that talks out of his ass and mouth and the same time – and you can’t tell the difference.
No. He’s becoming Nikki Haley, with a smoother face.
I listened to his interview on Laura Ingraham. DeSantis did not once use the word MAGA or Trump an awesome feat since Biden’s speech was chock full of ther words MAGA and Trump. Yet DeSantis carefully navigated his response to avoid even once saying MAGA or Trump. In his response to Biden’s speech DeSantis didn’t defend by name the 95% of the base that is MAGA. Let that sink in.
Since Aug 8th DeSantis appears to have completely dropped the words MAGA and Trump from his vernacular. Guess he no longer identifies with MAGA or Trump.
All the signs are there — his omissions and actions. I believe DeSantis is planning to run for President.
He is already distancing himself from anyone and anything associated with PDJT. He is building steam, creating a massive financial war chest that can be rolled over into a presidential run after the November election.
The time is now to stear him back into comitting to a full term in the Florida governorship. Now before he throws his hat into the presidential ring. DeSantis thru his word omissions doesn’t see himself as MAGA and doesn’t want to even use the word Trump anymore = (3.5 weeks and counting).
It is easier to deal with a Trojan Horse before it gets inside the walls than after. Let’s support DeSantis for governor, but we need to dissuade him loudly and clearly from entering the presidential race. He’s no plan B unless we don’t want a MAGA candidate.
Hmmmmmm …. and how many tens of thousands of people are showing up at DeSantis rallies all over the country? Oh … right.
They never learn. None of them learn. They line up to crash their high flying political careers on the side of Trump Mountain after they convince themselves that they can somehow fly through it.
Trump’s MAGA Republicans own the Republican Party. I know what Sundance says about it being a private club owned by the donors, but I think in a way that is also a bit of an outdated view of it, because without the voting base they are not terribly different from the Conservative, Inc. never-Trumpers who find themselves sitting on the porch in their underwear yelling at the MAGA kids go get off the grass, irrelevant kibitzers writing irrelvant articles for irrelevant magazines nobody reads.
We shall see. A MAGA party if we can keep it.
Trump 2024
I should explain the Conservative, Inc. reference. The fault line is no longer conservative/liberal, democrat/republican. The fault line is globalist vs. American nationalist.
So just as the Conservative, Inc. folks are anachronisms still stuck in old paradigms fighting a political war that has moved on to a different conflict, so too perhaps are the old guard Republican money men and multinational corporations stuck in an old paradigm. They can throw all the money they want at their RINO candidates, but a Trump endorsement means more.
So, the Republican Party is now the MAGA party, but some of them haven’t gotten a clue what just happened and still carry on as if it is still the 90’s and Americans haven’t figured out how they ALL screweed us. We DID figure it out, and Trump is our guy.
Trump 2024
Do you know what time it is?
Have you been watching the increasing violence against Conservatives and MAGA – none of it prosecuted, all the way back to 2015?
Do you know what time it is?
Doeas anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody really care?
If so I can’t imagine why
We’ve all got time enought to cry
A fellow treeper (big thumbs up) reposted a Gateway Pundit link by Wayne Allan Root which illustrates the point I’ve been TRYING to make.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/wayne-root-blame-covid-vaccine-disaster-coverup-hint-not-president-donald-j-trump/
I, like Root, don’t BLAME DJT 100% for OWS (that’s Operation Warp Speed, Bessie, lol!) and the mRNA jabs.
Root is on point with doling out the blame to FAUCI, the Alphabet agencies, China JoeBama, the lamestream media, BIG PHARMA and their SHILL doctors, etc.
What I’m looking for from DJT, RDS, and any other politician worth his/her ilk (Root eloquently states this better than I can, lol) is this:
And I quote:
“But…
Now is the perfect time for President Trump to come out and say, “I was duped. I was lied to. Dr. Fauci and the CDC and FDA lied to all of us. I am so sorry to admit the vaccine is a failure. It doesn’t prevent Covid. It doesn’t prevent transmission of Covid. And it appears many people are affected adversely- including death. I was told it worked. I was told side effects were minor. I was told the vaccine trials showed it was safe and effective. I know now those were all lies…
Based on what we know now, it’s clearly time to suspend the vaccine program and investigate what went wrong. And if found guilty of fraud and cover-up, demand everyone involved be criminally prosecuted. We must clean house at the CDC, FDA and other government agencies that allowed this disaster to occur. To make sure nothing like this ever happens again, Congress must pass a law that bans mandates for any experimental or emergency-use vaccine or drug. No one should ever force any American to choose between their job or their life. Or going to school or college and their life.”
Do that Mr. President, and you’re the President of the United States again in 2024. Case closed.”
Except they were absolved of all responsibility in advance, for political expediency. You can’t sue the companies for shoddy vaccines developed without comprehensive research and trials. That was the premise of the OWS. Sad.
In a normal world perhaps those words would mollify the people who have lost loved ones because of the mRNA vaccinations; but this is no where near a normal world or normal times and if anyone watching these past few years has learned anything is that to never, ever, ever apologize – DJT must emphatically stand his ground. He may have been misled but those who did the misleading did it openly and publicly (remembering Birx’ admonition to the world to not kill grandma).
Never, ever apologize – look what happened to Joe Rogan, instantly became a laughingstock for apologizing, and the past few years have shown any person of the middle or right leaning political persuasion that has apologized has instantly been bulldozed over by the left and communists who will forever use that apology for pushing that individual to the side because they have shown the one weakness the Left does not tolerate – giving anyone they consider an ‘enemy’ room to be a human.
And thanks for the clarification regarding OWS, abbreviations are a stumbling block to clarity, I use BLM and have used it for decades for Bureau of Land Management and so find interesting replies when people assume the comment is about Black Lives Matter!
The vaccine wasn’t a failure. The vaccine did save lives. The problem was that people who didn’t need it were forced to take it.
I may have missed the post that said “abandon Desantis all ye who enter here”. To some of you-don’t tell Sundance what you think he has to say,think,post. You can turn the channel. The info is presented, you have free will to do with it what you want.
I’m old enough to remember thinking we might just get somewhere with Bill Barr as AG. He said ALL the right things didn’t he? And when the House went to the GOP, I know we were going to get rid of Obama care. Right?
So perhaps we should be wise, and reserve fandoms for entertainers, and apply scepticism to politicians.
The Democrats WANT the focus to be on Trump, not their record, and especially not on Biden. We are on a narrow road and the focus must be to win in November, period. I live in Florida, so far DeSantis has been a great Governor. He is in the quiver if needed in 2024, and he knows it, and he has to navigate this carefully. I am sure he and Trump talk, but how, their phones and emails are being spied on by the all the corrupt agencies in DC.
I am praying for both of them and their families, and all of our MAGA family, we are facing EVIL and we must stay united to defeat Satan who is our enemy and who is the controlling the left, and some Republicans. Keep praying for DeSantis to avoid the traps and have wisdom and strength, and stay on the narrow path.
Traps?? He already took the money….
Why would anyone except an undercover democrat fill these pages creating issues between Trump and DeSantis supporters…I value DeSantis as my governor in Florida and I value Trump as our best candidate for President. Both deserve our support and contributions. If one or the other falls by the wayside or opts out, we are fortunate to have others like Cruz, Cotton, Jordan, and Hawley standing by. Can you imagine how frustrated the Democrats must be to have NO alternatives! Quit tearing down our own best people and build up the conservative vote.
Cruz, Cotton, and Hawley
Give me a break.
Where have you been?
There is only the UNIPARTY and MAGA.
And who are you going to vote for when DeSantis announces his 2024 Presidential run?
And why is he running against PDJT at that point?
Rubber, meet road.
Again the “by the wayside” argument used so often throughout – generally just President Trump doing that but here more generous “one or the other” but that old “deep bench” argument ( dragged out of the 2015 closet for reuse ? ) What is this Bots anonymous?
Yeah some people didn’t like the off the cuff often right replies from Trump, but I’ll take that any day over let me ruin it by the consulting poll tested groups first.
I absolutely love President Trump. If opportunity presents itself, I would crawl through glass to vote for him again. Nothing he ever said offended me. He was a brilliant president. I am so happy Sundance is exposing DeSantis for what he is. President Trump is our only hope. F hurt feelings. People need to grow up and wise up.
As for the rally tonight, while I am not happy about Trump’s endorsement of Dr. Oz. – MAYBE – MAGA Republicans will be able to pressure, persuade, pray him to sanity and sanctity on spiritual, social and sane economic issues.
Desantis voted for TPP. It starts and stops there.
He briefly changed his dress to a MAGA guy. Now he is back to showing his Uniparty spandex.
No one knew who this guy was when he was a congressman. He used PDJT and MAGA voters to attain his Governorship (And thus national recognition).
Once someone shows you who they are, believe them.
This.
DeSantis is much smoother than Haley about it, though.
BOTH SIDES of the Uniparty (as SD calls them) have contempt for MAGA Republicans.
Both sides don’t consider us real Republicans. They call us names – just like we call them RINOS and LEFTISTS/Liberals.
Remember all the names McCain called us – whacko-birds, crazies, and worse?
Remember Hillrotten calling us deplorables, irredeemables?
Remember “bitter clingers, Russian bots, ignorant hillbillies, monstrous arseholes, gunsplainers, lunatic fringe, white privilege Christians, vulgarians, Crusaders, toothless garbage people, assholes, couch potato anarchists, enemy of the republic, Trump’s noxious base, Trumptards?conspiracy theorists, bunch of randos, virulent people, dregs of society…”
That’s just part of the list of ugly names compiled by Louisiana Mom at Weasel Zippers over the 2015-2016 campaign season from the time Donald and Melania Trump came down that escalator.
LINK
BOTH SIDES didn’t want another Tea Party Movement. They had utter contempt for and betrayed us as soon as we voted them into office. Remember Rubio and the Gang of Eight Amnesty Bill he co-authored? Grrrr! There were many betrayals by Tea Party candidates.
With Trump – they got the Tea Party on Steroids! And it’s still going and will never stop – no matter what they call us!
All best case scenarios about who runs for 2024, who’s the VP, who waits in the sidelines etc are, in fact, moot – when faced with the near certainty that the Deep State (including the puppet masters behind Dark Brandon) are not planning on allowing Trump to run, much less win. Dead or alive, most likely the former (hi Andrew! hi Jeffrey! hi Seth!). Whatever insurance plan PDT has against the Deep State’s Final Solution had better be 200% more foolproof than whatever was attempted to thwart election fraud in 2020. Where’s Q when we need him?
Q’s dad told him to clean the basement.
This is EXACTLY what I said here was their goal with the content of that speech and the sinister lighting. This was also an ancillary goal of the Trump raid.
NOTE the zero evidence presented in the column.
Of course, as I’ve also said here before, in our majority idiocracy with their noses buried in their smarter-than-they-are phones, a study has shown that 6 out of 10 only read headlines and then forward them on to the useful idiots friends. “Smart phones,” the perfect official narrative and propaganda distribution device:
Biden speech denouncing Trump, ‘MAGA ideology’ sparks threats, calls for violence
September 2, 2022
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-speech-denouncing-trump-maga-ideology-sparks-threats-calls-for-violence-003139767.html
President Biden’s fiery speech in Philadelphia denouncing former President Donald Trump and what he described as “extreme MAGA ideology” has sparked online calls for violence, including death threats against the president, according to documents obtained by Yahoo News.
Spot on. That’s the Alinsky way. Stoke violence and blame the Trump supporters. These fascist are too predictable.
Even Graham said something to the effect if Trump is indicted, “There will be riots”
I was taught it is wrong to hate. Dear God, it’s getting harder and harder each day.
It’s astounding how many ‘sleepers’ like Desantis are actively pretending to be on the side of Trump supporters. Like Romney, they are wh*res . To completely discard Trump after Trump fully backed you is despicable. DeSantis has been ordered to delete Trump and MAGA from his vocabulary. Florida I hope you benefit from Desantis as your governor but you can keep him in Florida.
Well said, and a very accurate description of what these people are.
I forgot Trump had endorsed Romney in 2018. Bleah. Romney was a total back-stabber.
Before letting go of this thread, I’ll just add this.
PDJT has beaten everything they’ve thrown at him, with the exception of a massively stolen national election involving at least five corrupted states and both major parties acting in concert.
And it hasn’t stopped MAGA. This massive grassroots movement has only gotten bigger, and stronger. PDJT remains its leader. And it is slowly consuming the GOP.
The biggest red flag against the still-rising and ultimately unstoppable MAGA movement is if Ron DeSantis is positioned to be PDJT’s 2024 running mate. That is not a “dream ticket”.
It’s a signal that the power elites have reached the very last option, and are resorting to ‘wet works’ to try and stop it.
The Con Inc grifters — the ones who do nothing but sell books and movies and pretend to be “fighting the swamp” — are out in full force today saying Trump supporters hate DeSantis and don’t know why. Of course that is a lie, just more deception by the controlled-opposition grifter class.
I personally don’t hate DeSantis, he’s as good as it gets for a regime-controlled GOP politician. I’d vote for him for Gov if I lived in Florida. But in no way is he the guy that will take on and defeat the corrupt, globalist regime who rules over us.
Spot on
DESANTIS HAS BEEN COMPROMISED.
He is an establishment hack. He is a traitor to the MAGA movement.
I am 100% behind SunDance on Ron behind his silence. A couple of months ago mentioned the event Attending a event in So Ca. Got a real uneasy feeling because it was surrounded with Rinos and deep State big money. DeSantis was mentioned along with disbelief in the 2020 election being rigged. Found out Ron had been there talking with big donors. At was he doing there when he should be in Florida running his campaign. Yes he will win Florida Gov, no worries about that . He knows he is being selected to run for Pres in 2024. He has that . After Bidens evil speech you don’t hear a word from the Rinos and Ron making sure not to mentionMEGA. If he would hv remained true to MEGA followers and stood by Trump when is home was being robbed then maybe we wd hv a better feeling about him but McConnell and McCarthy and. graham can hardly wait to welcome him to the “Club”. Watch Morris on Newsmax with Rita , it is excellent response to the Biden clan and how they are the Rinos are trying to make sure Trump is erased. Thousands are lining up for Trump today. Let that be a reminder that he isn’t going away and questioning Sundance makes your logic very naive. MEGA is our soul to this Country
MAGA
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There definitely are trolls here, as there are everywhere. If you don’t post 24 hours a day on every single topic or say the samething as others or say very similar words in a different way in your club, you are a troll on here. Prove me wrong.
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“don’t post 24 hours a day on every subject or say the same thing as others or say very similar words in a different way”
I have never been called a troll.
I can’t rationally believe that independent voters will go for Trump in large enough numbers for the Republicans to win. The leftist news establishment will be 100% against him 24/7 and are more influential than this excellent small website, supported by wonderful Patriots. A pyrhicc victory is a stupid, stupid stupid defeat. Allowing a Democrat (Michelle) in for 8 years will destroy America. Does Sundance have in mind someone other than Trump, who will win? I think he could pick a name out of a phone book and have a decent chance after this Obama Three debacle.
We already went through this in 2016. Non-stop anti-Trump messaging from the moment he announced his candidacy in 2015 culminating in some goofball saying on election day that Hillary had a 100% chance of winning. 🙂 And remember Barry Obama, “at least I’ll go down in history as a President”? lol
If you believe Pew, Trump had a slight edge with Independents in 2016. (https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/) I’m technically an Independent though I have been voting Republican exclusively since November 2008. I know plenty of Independents and Libertarians who voted for Trump, though I’m not sure if they all did in 2020. If they didn’t I’m sure they’re regretting their decision now, and if it’s a Trump-Biden race, or Trump-any other Dem fascist, I’m sure they’ll vote for Trump.
Maybe your name is in the phone book.
Vote Trump 2024! Make Democrats Cry Again!
I need a hat with that message!
Going out of his way to disappoint. That’s all that I can say.
Ron is looking a little sketchy about now. The courage seems to be waning.
RDS has lost his edge. His handlers have toned him down to where he is now boring and sounds like the rest of the boring Rs/RIONOs.
Looking forward to 45’s rally tonight! He said he has much, much to say! It won’t be boring!
Stop and think: if for whatever reason Trump does not or cannot run for President in 2024, why are so many so quick to go with DeSantis in 2024 as the next best man up for Maga voters????
Why is this assumption getting so much traction at this point? Why is it almost being set in stone at this point? (As we are distracted from the still-needed fight for election process reforms in many of our states)
Have you ever considered the possibility that there may arise a BETTER ALTERNATIVE –a better Plan B for Maga–than DeSantis for 2024 if for whatever reason Trump does not run in 2024????
Why is this assumption getting so much traction at this point? Why is it almost being set in stone at this point?
Thank you! Most candidates won’t even announce til Spring of next year. People panicking thinking that Trump won’t run therefore we have to back DeSantis, at this early stage, is absurd. If Trump doesn’t run there will be other candidates.
I’ve already decided I will not vote for DeSantis in any presidential primary. If he ends up being the GOP nominee I will vote for him in the general election though just to try to prevent the Dem from winning.
The great GOP Trojan horse…
DeSantis is going to blow his support if he goes against MAGA movement. If he sides with the Republican Club al la Mr. Turtle McConnell he will lost much support.
I’ve looked but still have not seen a statement from Mitch McConnell on the Red Speech…you know Biden and he are close friends.
Nothing wrong with this particular interview and its timing.
I think he is smart enough not to show his cards. We need a surprise, a wolf in sheep’s clothing, a guy the GOP think was one of them. A guy who can take on the FBI and DOJ and win. Once we bring the national security apparatus to heel, we can take on RINO’s. You don’t need to worry about the Democrats if you have a functioning government that enforces the law. The political left exists only because they’re given a pass by the national security state and the federal law enforcement.
Our government went rogue – that’s the problem.
Obviously, you cannot take on the Left, the Deep State and the GOP establishment all at the same time. You need a winning strategy, and throwing with feces like Trump – even though Trump was and still is right on pretty much every issue – is a recipe for disaster.
So far, DeSantis was very effective as a governor. There can be no guarantee he will be as effective as POTUS (a) IF he runs and (b) IF he wins, but, again, in Florida, he took on Big Tech, on creepy Hollywood (Disney), and Big Pharma/Fauci/White House. He also defended parents’ rights, and removed a left-wing DA, literally let the state troopers frog-march that puke off the premises. If that was not convincing, nothing else will.
With Trump and DeSantis, we have two great candidates. And honestly, after Dark Brandon’s speech last night, I’m more concerned with how much ammo I can buy than who will be our nominee in 2024, Trump or DeSantis
We need a surprise, a wolf in sheep’s clothing, a guy the GOP think was one of them. A guy who can take on the FBI and DOJ and win.
Occam’s Razor. DeSantis is acting like a GOPE because he is one. I think his “wolf in sheep’s clothing” act occurred when he used the Tea Party and then Trump/MAGA to advance his career. He pretended to be MAGA to win his Florida Governor election, now refuses to acknowledge Trump or MAGA. That makes him look like a fraud and I’m not going to create convoluted logic to try to make him look good.
DeSantis is actually very transparent even though he’s trying to not be. Remember his excuse for bowing out of a Lee Zeldin fundraiser? “Unexpected tragedy”?
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/30/desantis-pulls-out-of-lee-zeldin-fundraiser-after-meeting-with-billionaire-donor-who-gave-more-than-400000-to-kathy-hochul/
“Smart enough not to show his cards”?
So we have to vote for him to find out what he plans to do?
We cannot even get a good round condemnation from Ron, as Governor of Florida, the State where the FBI raided the home of President Trump and seized his property.
An unprecedented and historic act of brazen FBI/DOJ political targeting.
People are not going to vote for any candidate speaking in stale esoteric cryptic generalities.
I don’t want to hear abstract references to Government overreach, corruption, small Government, socialism, fiscal responsibility and energy independence. EVER again.
I have to hear exactly what measures will be implemented to snuff out the madness and depravity that has become the Government norm.
Why is Ron not going after Federal overreach in Florida?
We currently only have one champion.
The mean Tweeter.
He will get my vote again.
Never bet against the Ultra MAGA King and never ever bet against America
DeSantis is going to have some competition for “America’s Governor” (lol) Mastriano has emphatically stated that he’s going to do some amazing things right away if he wins his Pennsylvania Governor election, and it will be even more fabulous than what DeSantis has done in Florida.
I can’t survive hot humid weather, but if Pennsylvania ends up being a really great state I can move there.
Did they give Greg Abbott or any other GOP Governor so much air time to respond to Biden’s “Red Sermon” (love that term!) ?