Comrades, a heatwave hit the Colorado region Tuesday with temperatures exceeding 90 degrees.
Indoor temperatures began climbing, and when formerly free-range residents attempted to adjust their air conditioning, they discovered they were locked out from control in their own home as the power company took over.
(Denver ABC7) – […] when thousands of Xcel customers in Colorado tried adjusting their thermostats Tuesday, they learned they had no control over the temperatures in their own homes.
[…] “I mean, it was 90 out, and it was right during the peak period,” Talarico said. “It was hot.” That’s when he saw a message on the thermostat stating the temperature was locked due to an “energy emergency.”
[…] Xcel confirmed to Contact Denver7 that 22,000 customers who had signed up for the Colorado AC Rewards program were locked out of their smart thermostats for hours on Tuesday. (read more)
Comrade Citizens, it is important that we support the needs of the energy collective. All good thinking citizens put the needs of the state ahead of their selfish desires.
As the national energy emergency now begins to unfold, the officials in charge of energy resource equity remind everyone how critical it is to remain compliant with all ministerial energy objectives. Compliance is expected from all correct thinking citizens.
As long as you remain compliant, there is no reason for concern. Do not attempt to adjust your household allocation of energy. Energy advisors will be made available for enhanced personal education to explain the benefits of our Green New Deal. Your cooperation is appreciated Comrades. Please report any non-compliant energy consumers to your local energy enforcement agency.
I keep hoping that stand alone fuel cells powered by a tank of kerosene , hydrogen etc. willl gain momentum as a primary power source for rural homes. Just like the kerosene fired home heaters like Toyotomi or Monitore sells. In this case the fuel cell will power the entire house . I don’t think this is far off with rthe R&D being done by Toyota & several others for the car industry. Toyota has NOT jumped on the EV car bandwagon .
Not a good technical solution.
The battery technology that we in this country developed that could power your house for several days was giving or sold to China.
Vanadium redox?
I believe the EV Prius is made by Toyota. Also, I think their Highlander has, besides their regular gas version, an EV Hybrid model.
We have a 21 Toyota Corolla hbrid
They are coming for your kerosene as well, and when they figure out, they will steal your hydrogen and solar output (input to your indepndence) as well. And while they re shutting off your AC, watch what happens to your freezer full of protein known today as meat.
Does Bill Gates’ anal abomintion known as synthetic meat, that someday you’ll get used to, require reefer?
Toyota announced this 1MW Fuel Cell partnership last week:
https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-nrel-collaborate-to-advance-megawatt-scale-fuel-cell-systems/
20 years ago my neighbor worked for Chevron on a home fuel cell project. Their goal was to get it to the size of a home outdoor AC unit. Don’t know what happened since then.
You are so wrong about Toyota, their ads on Australian TV are about as woke as you can get.
They are going to save the planet, they just want you to buy their car to do it.
Cut the power, or just Thermostat control?
It’s probably ‘smarter’ now but I recall when my parents had a setup like that many years ago PG&E put a box on their condenser (split unit HVAC) that was radio controlled and would interrupt the start signal from the thermostat, easy to control the 24volt circuit for that, so the unit wouldn’t start.
I don’t recall much discussion about it; apparently it didn’t get triggered much or they weren’t using the unit when it did. They tended to be old school and ran the unit mostly at night/early morning when cool and used the house’s thermal mass to hold the cool during the day.
This holiday weekend/next week the area is scheduled to see temps of 106-113 so it does get pretty warm.
More a refusal to supply additional power to run the AC. So for all practical purposes they cut power.
Remove the nest pos thermostat and put a simple thermostat back in its place. It’s very simple done. You have to be a fool to give up your privacy and control of your home to some one else.
Sundance, I am afraid that even you lost perspective here. The answer to the question “why the electric company locked home users from adjusting their thermostats” is right in the screenshot you posted. Read it again, carefully and light bulb will turn on.
Yes, they signed up for the program to save money.
The real issue is since they can control usage for those in a special program then what is going to stop them from controlling other customers electric usage through manipulation of the smart meter.
Can they do it legally if manipulating usage is not in the contract, though? Lawyers would love that.
Note that the message clearly states that you can opt out of the “community energy saving program” simply by contacting the company. Problem solved.
The customers have no one but themselves to blame for enrolling in this program in the first place. What did they expect, exactly? How did they envision “energy saving” would work?
Remember, they signed up for this program. My question is if all the activities are spelled out in the agreement. At this point I do not want to waste my time as I would never do that (sign up that is). There are no free lunches. All “savings” and “free” things come with strings attached. But people are greedy and that’s what gets us where we are today.
I remember seeing something about this program, and I was a bit suspicious even then of giving them control, but I didn’t get the idea reading it that they would ever seriously do something like this. Especially since this week is only hot relative to average this time of year; it’s quite nice compared to how it was a month ago.
Simply remove the thermostat and put a simple heating and cooling thermostat back in its place. stop giving up your rights and property.
Those old round Honeywell thermostats, contain deadly mercury that will kill us all.
If only it had killed all of us who played with it as kids. And lead. And asbestos. And chemicals. Heck most boomers are superfund sites. Heh.
Ha! So true! My dad had a huge bottle of mercury that we’d sneak some out and play with it. I have no idea WHY he was in possession of such, I just remember how incredibly heavy that bottle was.
You really asked this question? If that starts happening, my Eco goes to trash and will be replaced with a stand alone unit. That simple. If they start cutting power off, well, then it’s up to you whether you want to go off the grid. There is always a solution/choice.
I wonder if typical residential solar installs have the panel and inverter capacity to start the residence HVAC. Most solar it appears is grid tied and won’t function standing alone but clever workarounds could be employed. I did it decades ago cross connecting three phase and single phase to provide flexible power sources. Solar is the same. Power is power. Throw the rule book out and follow science. Adapt and overcome. We can do it.
I have no thermostat and no HVAC. Having lived in the irrigated desert for six decades that was one priority when deciding where to die. Power outages in adverse action are a blessing. Those of us who worked/work in that industry could make quite a mess of things if desired. I’d personally prefer a peaceful solution be worked out.
Jack up rates, then offer ‘programs’. Easy peasy. Business 101 where the service is critical and a monopoly and the provider is a fascist corporation.
Answer: California.
What Would the World Look Like If Run By the Global “Elite”?
These people by the way will vote DEMOCRAT. AGAIN. AND they will move on to another abuse because their hatred for the right keeps them where they are. No matter how illogical the left no longer cares. It’s about winning by harming self and others. I’m not kidding.
What happens in California doesn’t STAY in Calif., unfortunately.
Recently, story that Virginia, on the other side of the freakin country, has tied their standards to Cal. legislation.
And, in any state contiguos to Cal., or any state contiguos to a state contiguos to Cal, you can not find a new car, most used cars, or motorcycle that is not built with emissions controls that are set up according to Cal standards.
Cal is definetly the beachhead they have established, and they are pushing outward from there.
This “RANK” (and it IS rank!) voting system, for example. In Alaska, it has had the same effect as when a RINO R party encourages “splitter” candidates.
Palin got “knocked out” by having to ‘compete’ against a fellow R, and a D, and so *SURPRISE”! the D “won”.
We have our work cut out for us!
Right next door to CA, here.
Im just outside of PGE and it’s crazy rates.
Im on Pacific Power.
My electricity bill is half of what I paid PGE, similar setup.
On PGE, in summer, I’d have $500 bills
Its $250 where I’m at, AC cycling all day,and I’m only about 75 miles
away from PGE territory.
Yeah, still have a PG&E presence and the current non-subsidized electric rates for the single phase are 5-6 times what I pay in Oregon and about 7 times the OR cost for three phase commercial power.
God bless my former neighbors who are pumping the deep water this hot summer. Three phase, even ag rates, is breathtaking and the diesel option isn’t much of an option with six buck a gallon diesel. Nasty.
Now with Rank Choice voting being adopted in many states it’s only a matter of time.
Strong city initiative
George Soreass
U.N.
And the worlds elite are pulling the strings
Yes! Our R mayor here in CS, put us into the Smart City farce years ago, while the D state power structure, and many Rs, want to go with rank choice. We’ve had paper only ballots for 10 years.
Thought they were so hip installing their Nest thermostat. Give control to your local Bolshevik lol.
Meanwhile I have the original acoustic one from 1997 when the house was built and no issues
😱 But I mean, they did sign up for it. I remember it being a program you could sign up for here, and after looking in to thinking “why would I only want control over my electric usage when I don’t need it?”
The small proposed savings didn’t justify the inconvenience in my case. If it had been a big meaningful discount I might have thought harder about it.
I will NEVER relinquish my control.
Not even to Maga, or president trump
Yes they may have signed up for it, but the last several days have been anything BUT an energy emergency in Colorado. We have been in the low 90s on and off all summer. This was nothing more than a TEST to see if they could get away with it.
This!
Our Board of Supervisors said the same thing to PG&E some 15 years ago, when they insisted that if everyone in Lake County Calif would put off the utility “chores” til late at night, we too could save big.
In a county known for 100 degree days, our Supes thought the PG&E spokespeople were hilarious. “Run the AC at night when it is not needed, to save money for not running it during the hours when intense heat might be killing the elderly or disabled person a family m,ight care for.”
Find your old thermostat and connect the wires as shown in numerous youTube videos.
… violate the terms of the contact you signed up for …
Yeah so…Sue me, Jesus.
Not an adult; good to know. Thanks for playing.
Oh man, that reminds me to check into one of those smart meter covers and learn more about the radiation the smartness of the meter produces.
The meter service people will be out to see WHY they cannot ‘read your meter’ remotely.
How’s all that virtue signaling working out fer yer?
You didn’t really think that “smart” thermostat you installed was for YOUR convenience, did you?
The “Internet of things” ,….SUCKS!
The idiots signed up for the program. They got a $100 one-time credit and $25/year for being in the program. The program clearly says that their thermostats will be adjusted upwards during peak demand. A similar program exists here in CA. You have to affirmatively sign up for it. I read the details, and…… since I’m not an idiot, I didn’t sign up. So my thermostat is staying right where I like it.
Well depending where you live, the entire grid that powers your household could be taken offline. After all, the PG&E decision-makers love selling Calif’s energy to other states for under the table profits.
I noted a PG&E ‘energy credit’ event running tomorrow between 4 and 9pm PDT in my former area of CA. If one cuts back their usage during that time, a credit will supposedly appear at the end of the ‘peak season’ on one’s bill.
About the only things I’m running there are the field drip well pump, security lights and the house refer so static use and no reduction credit.
I’ll be watching their outage map over the next week of high temps for planned outages. They’ve been predicting them and it’s a holiday weekend.
These people were very naive in thinking the government wouldn’t control them. They just gave away the keys to their kingdom to maybe save a few bucks.
Good. Let them sizzle and think a bit about what they’ve let their state become.
Within the next five to ten years, the only guaranteed way to be sure to have power for your use when you want/need it is to be able to supply it entirely yourself.
The right can scoff all they want at solar power and batteries and electric vehicles. Any true right-winger knows it isn’t about the environment. It isn’t even really about cost as we live in a fiat, going-to-hyper-inflation system. It is about system availability.
Having sufficient solar generation on your property to meet your needs at peak demand during low-generation season is ideal. Meeting the bare minimums is essential. Yes, they cost too much. No, they will never pay for themselves. Yes, they are horrific for the environment. No, you can’t really afford them now, and definitely won’t be able to in the future. On the other hand, they are terribly hard to repossess, and when things break down possession is 9/10s of the law.
Regardless…
You need to figure out your average daily energy use for each month, each season. You need sufficient solar capacity to produce 125% of that number, on average, daily, at your lowest-production season (usually winter).
You need sufficient battery storage for approximately 3 days of use with no charge at all.
You need an auto-grid cutoff to disconnect from the grid when it goes down and use only your solar and battery storage.
And yes, you need an electric vehicle. Probably only Tesla. Their batteries are vastly superior, and their battery warranty is vastly superior. Their direct battery interface is also vastly superior to anything done by any other U.S. automaker.
Why an electric vehicle? Because it needs almost no maintenance and you will be able to completely fuel it from your above setup, making you completely autonomous. If civilization doesn’t collapse and nothing bad happens ever, hurray, you can still drive your electric car across country without issue. If everything falls apart, you have a portable generator you can use to run your home off of for roughly one week, that you can also drive around for 300+ miles near you to assist/pick up friends/family in need who are stranded.
What will all of this cost you? A LOT. More than it’s worth. Unless, of course, things continue, and the alternative is living without electricity or plumbing and dying in a ditch somewhere. Then it is worth anything and everything you have.
Philander, this was the first time I have ever heard or read a logical, thorough breakdown of the advantages of an EV and solar power. Thank you. You didn’t approach it from a weird California fruits and nuts direction but from an independence, self-sustaining rationale based on a future where people may have much less resources. It’s in keeping with that old mantra, “better to have and not need than to need and not have” sorta like a firearm. Excellent synopsis Sir.
The only thing he left out was the money to have all this happen!
Take out a really, really big loan. Default on the loan when you need to.
Get yelled at by old folks about being a “deadbeat,”as they sell their house for a sandwich.
And if you CAN afford to it without defaulting on it, consider your role one of buidlinga n island, a refuge. People are going to need the sanctuary that you may be able to provide. It wasn’t all given to you for your benefit, but that so you could share it with those in need.
I make the case frequently to people who should know better. Almost always I’m dismissed as a blue shill by those spouting emotional paroxysms as they desperately try to avoid the realization that they have made a LOT of wrong decisions in their life, and hold a lot of incorrect beliefs.
Being wrong is simply too painful for too many to bear. They will sacrifice everything you have and love to avoid it.
Repentence and humility are the best things a person can do, and when you see ANYONE struggling to try to attempt them, you do ANYTHING you can do help them get through it.
Is the Tesla controllable remotely like some GM vehicles?
ALL vehicles, including internal combustion engine vehicles, are required to have this by 2026, and most have them now. If that’s what you’re worried about, you’re already too late. You need to be looking into blackmarket solutions to disable and jam the system.
Sticking with non-EVs won’t save you.
“you can still drive your electric car across country without issue” Really?
What about when you need to charge that vehicle and your family has to sit for up to 8 hours near some crime infested charging station. If you need gas, a quick stop is minutes to get you going. I don’t know if you have thought through sitting somewhere you are unfamiliar with for hours and hours while every con, burglar, and shyster knows you will be a sitting duck.
Modern EVs, even non-teslas, can charge at a high-speed charger from 0% to full in less than an hour.
If you’re like most people, a 350 mile range will take you about 6 hours of actual car time. In that amount of time, two stops for bathroom and drinks is normal, and each stop is always a minimum of 15 minutes and likely more like 20 if you’re traveling with women.
So if your stops correspond with a high-speed charger (and they are everywhere, even Riverton, WY, population of less than 9k and a total of 5 stop lights has 10 fast chargers around the area).
So, if you travel a full 700 miles in a day, you may add up to one additional hour of time to your tripover the course of the day, and much less if you don’t drive that far.
Your facts and figures are simply not up to date. You believe incorrect information.
Fast chargers charge at 350 KW/hr. The largest battery packs available on automobiles are all less than 100 KW.
The batteries obviously charge fastest when they are most depleted, and the charging slows as stored charge increases. Temperature and other environmental variables matter. But most cars that can fast charge will charge in under an hour, usually much less than hour.
Since a single charge will get you over 5 hours of actual drive time, two bathroom stops is reasonable. Each bathroom stop always consumes at least 15 minutes of time, between juggling passengers, getting drinks, etc. If you charge while doing that, in the course of a days driving you might add on an extra 30 minutes to your entire day. And that’s if you’re driving a really long haul.
Batteries and charging are simply not an impediment to long distance travel that most people think they are, unless they have a older, ultra-cheap, POS EV. In that case, yeah, you’re screwed.
Excellent suggestions; however, I was reminded that my family lived, only a century ago, without electricity and indoor plumbing except for a pipe from the tank house to the kitchen sink. Windmill filled the tank with water. My mom and three of her sisters also slept in the tank house. The other nine people in the family slept in the house. Nothing earth-shattering, just a typical farm of that era.
Making a freedom issue of this is stupid. You volunteered for this. The demand has to be reduced some way or other. The “other” is rolling blackouts. Maybe you like that better?
Long term, of course, base load supply has to be built out. Nuclear or fossil only options.
Y ou should start at the 🌳 like 10 years ago and read up to now.
Only after you have developed critical thinking should you comment
-1; He has a valid comment.
There WASN’T a reason to do this this week! Temperatures in Colorado right now are rather nice. They are not serious about saving energy or they would have done this a month ago, when it was actually hot.
These people signed up for the program to “save money”.
So far, this is voluntary.
HOWEVER, the problem will be when this becomes REQUIRED.
Currently, they use a tiered set up, cost wise. My latest bill, running a PHEV and two AC units, near the Pacific Coast with cooling breezes, LED lighting, two HVAC units, keeping the house at 79F was 1500 KwH last month. The bill pushed us a bit above the 33 cents per KwH…. so we paid 550 bucks. BFD to us.
But, at some point, they might decide that Nyet Tovarish! You will NOT be allowed to exceed your allotment of power. Regardless of how much money you pay… at that point I suggest you move to a very nice neighborhood where half the people are lawyers ( I think my zip code qualifies ) and/or get a nice gasoline generator.
Do this before CARB regulates gasoline generators… watch those fools allow only portable EV generators. 😉
Meanwhile, the party apparatchiks in San Franciskovich don’t need AC and they got all the water they need from Hetch Hetchy….
I should have qualified this by noting that my power company is SoCal Edison.
Currently (mis)managed by the previous managers of the Guatemalan Power and Water Public Works… who believe that losing power four times a year is exceptional service.
BTW, compared to the LA Dept of Water and Power and, oh boy!, PG&E up North, Edison is a paragon of efficiency.
The managers over at PG&E were hired from North Korea…. while LA hires from Venezuela….
Calimexistan, you see?
If you don’t read what you’re subscribing to, it’s kind of on you. They can still opt out.
I kind of chuckled remembering back at the beginning of the Covid operation Krispy Kreme was offering donuts for vaccinations. First the carrot, then the stick.
Program is voluntary and one can opt out at any time. Then, emergency. We saw how that worked with Covid. Here we are.
One example of the scar left on the Earth’s surface in the quest for the raw materials for EVs
In this case, it is the world’s largest cobalt mine located in Africa
About as bad as what they do to areas where they are putting in their scam “wind farms”.
Yes, but it keeps the children who work the mines for nothing out of trouble. It’s like midnight basketball.
This is why I do not have a “smart” anything, not even a phone.
me too
If you have a mobile phone, it’s a smart phone whether you realize it or not.
I got a “flip phone” for my teenage son hoping he will not get distracted in school, yet everyone in school has a phone. (The school is far and the buses are unreliable thanks to C19)
As I learned what this “basic phone” does and can do, I came to realize they took a standard smart phone kernel and operating system then adapted it to a less complex user interface. But it has ALL of the power to run apps (whether you put them there or not!) and a lot more.
All of the aspects of hacking and tracking are ALL in there. There is no escape and older “cell” tech is all but discontinued.
Amen
There is nothing wrong with your thermostat. Do not attempt to adjust the temperature . We are now controlling the electrical transmission, we control the horizontal and the vertical, How far and wide and how high the temperature goes. We can deluge you with a thousand volts or shrink it to just one… and beyond. We can shape your comfort to anything our imagination can conceive. For the next hours we will control all that you feel and breathe. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the deepest inner mind… to The Outer Temperatures.
WID’s, i.e. weapons of individual destruction – far more frightening than the weapons Saddam didn’t have.
The only thing I can say is that I hope Governor Newsom is too busy to pay any attention to this….
If they voted for Polis, because they liked his biography, or support this green new deal, then I’m only sorry they don’t live in Yuma, Arizona
“Xcel confirmed to Contact Denver7 that 22,000 customers who had signed up for the Colorado AC Rewards program were locked out of their smart thermostats for hours on Tuesday.”
Reminder to ME:
Don’t enroll in a Rewards program
Don’t have a smart thermostat
Just get one that doesn’t talk to anybody that wants to control you. No blue tooth, no wifi, no smartphone connections, set it yourself.
No way out. If they can’t get enough signed voluntarily, they will probably switch tactics and fine those who go over their allotment.
The Comiefornia invasion of what was once a freedom loving state of Colorado is almost complete.
Well, this is what Obama’s energy secretary wanted. The ability for the government to control the power in your home. Looks like they got it.
It’s almost comical. I make my living in technology. And every time I see certain technologies, I have to hesitate.
Take “cloud computing” for example:
a. Relies on the internet
b. Relies on the always changing terms of service
c. Relies on the provider not violating/changing terms of service
d. Relies on the provider’s “approval” of anything and everything about you in order to continue service access.
2. Is actually more expensive than operating your own systems in many cases and is far more limited and less flexible
I see these things knowing I work for a “conservative” company and yet IT leadership insists on moving services to an entity which I view as hostile to conservatives. It disappoints me a great deal.
But it’s more than that. The way cars are being “wired” these days is absolutely nightmarish. The quality of automotive electrical systems hasn’t really improved over the years and the thought of entrusting the operation of my cars to an electronic system depending on an automotive electrical system makes me very uncomfortable with that level of dependence.
As a tech guy, I’m more than aware of dependencies and what can go wrong. Being aware of what can go wrong makes me a better trouble shooter when things DO go wrong.
“Oh but the convenience and how cool is that?!”
I drive a manual transmission car and that was entirely by choice. I can do things to save myself with this type of car that you can’t even think about in today’s cars completely overtaken by restrictive and limiting tech.
It’s over 100° here in AZ right now. We don’t have to play these stupid Democrat Party games.
We have some kind of inversion of this policy in my home.
My wife insists on setting the thermostat at 70 in the summer,
and 75 in the winter.
I try to adjust the thermostat to 75/70 but an hour later it’s reset to 70/75.
And I didn’t agree to this.
Go figure.
My parents were like this every year. Kept the house at 76 degrees all winter long and at 68 all summer. Then they thought they could complain to me about their bill.
no pitty, NONE that is what they agreed to for a lower bill
Last year and early this year I did not have a problem running a microwave and an air fryer/bake/rotisserie oven on the same circuit at the same time. This summer it blows the fuse every time.
I do not live in any of the states where the rationing is happening, at least not yet.
Somethiung has changed; get an electrician to make sure the screw connection on the breaker in the fuse panel are torqued down correctly.
Easy to check the branch circuit voltage with a volt-ohm meter both without and with the appliance loads.
I had a similar problem and traced a low voltage problem back to a bad single phase transformer on the 12Kv pole at the road. Utility confirmed, replaced the transformer and all was good.
Test other circuits for low voltage and, if all is well elsewhere in the house it could be that one circuit that’s got issues, either at the load end or the panel or something happening to the wiring in between. Stuff happens.
In SHTF there will be no electrician to call, though for now if one has a deep enough wallet it’s a solution. My advice? Learn electrical theory and practice and how to work with the stuff; even without a grid people can still make and use electricity on their own. That requires maintenance and the requisite knowledge. Good skill to have. I learned it in the 60’s.
i live in the country n.w. iowa and my electric co-op has a similar program.for me my house is (100)% electric.and my heat pump/furnace and water heater are on a separate meter.so between oct and april we get a heating credit.in the summer there is a box on the side on my house called a service interupter.so IF it gets to the point of needing to conserve power,the power company can shut my a/c down for half hour,then it comes back on and the neighbors goes down for half hour and on and on down the line.in the 12 yrs we have been here i think it has only cut power maybe 3 times.one thing is our co-op will reimburse us when they have a surplus.my june bill was 230 bucks,after the refund it dropped to 105 bucks.man some on you people with your 5-600 dollar power bills is scary.i can’t remember the last time we went over 300.our current rate is .13 cents per kwh.
In Calif my current electric bill is 34 cents per kwh. That might be why so many will tell you their bills are so high.
34 per kWh is outrageous.
When I left CA it was about 23 per kWh
I pay 14 kWh
Giving up control of home thermostats may be voluntary now but you can be sure the global digital feudal lords will eventually normalize mandatory control of home thermostat temperature limits as well as other personal electricity use “for the greater good”. Look at what the state of California just did with outlawing in-state sales of new internal combustion engine cars after 2035 for example of what’s coming.
Only the strong will survive
It’s coming everywhere, at least in areas not served by nuclear plants…California shut in 200,000 homes over Thanksgiving weekend, 3 days….
Never give up freedom for money or convenience…
Americans, in general, have given up huge swaths of freedom for money and convenience. Money especially. Look what they made us give during Covid. People gave their lives for money, taking a vaccination they otherwise wouldn’t have taken if not for their jobs (money) being on the line. Those who died as a result are IMO casualties of war, even though they did choose money over freedom voluntarily. No one held a gun to their head. That’s coming though. Expect it.
Sue.
The Mountain hippies went Flower Kraut. German abolition of coal generated power.
OK. Where’s the meme showing one of these ‘smart’ (yes, with sneer quotes) thermostats stating, “I’m sorry, but you’ve been libtarded. Please change your voting habits to avoid heat stroke.”?
ALL power plants in America WILL CONTINUE to be powered by Coal, Nuclear, Natural Gas or Fuel Oil / Diesel. A few wind and solar plants will flourish, but not provide any substantial Megawatt supply to the grid. Battery powered cars are an expensive novelty, and function at about 53% capacity in cold weather (20F )which over half the country experiences for 3-5 months per year. If the entire nation were to be forced to buy and drive battery powered cars by this communist government in charge, America WOULD BE USING 3X the amount of electricity to charge these cars. The transformers on the telephone poles would all have to be upgraded – as would the substation step-up transformers and the head-end as would the power generating plant transformers and electrical generators. It will be a very long time before a battery can compete (pound for pound) with 6 lb gallon of gas. You can drive a 3500 lb car at 70 MPH for 35 -40 miles on one gallon of gas. 250-350 lbs of batteries are required to do the same – and if you’re driving in cold weather with your heater on, well slice off about 47% of that mileage. A battery powered Ford pickup truck towed a trailer a whopping 88 miles before having to stop and charge up for 3-4 hours. Yeah…right…..no thanks.
re: “ALL power plants in America WILL CONTINUE to be powered by Coal, Nuclear, Natural Gas or Fuel Oil / Diesel.”
Here’s the “tech” we really need to be advancing, lest the Chinese scoop us in this tech: Dr. Hagen of Delft University published a paper appearing in the “International Journal of Hydrogen Energy” titled “Electron paramagnetic resonance (EPR) proof for the existence of molecular hydrino”.
This has ramifications because a reaction that releases 200x that of simple combustion of hydrogen is coming into its own (finally) after years of working to achieve “utility scale” power level production.
Highlights
• New allotrope of molecular hydrogen recoded by EPR.
• New molecular orbital structure confirmed having a paired and an unpaired electron.
• SQUID behavior noted for a molecular orbital.
• New fastest gas migration velocity recorded by gas chromatography.
• New state of molecular hydrogen is the basis of a new power source.
Most do not have an option to opt out – the utilities have instituted the (so-called) smart grid for just this purpose. What most do not realize is that they also use the system to track you in your own home. Every “smart” appliance communicates with their smart meter – so wherever you are in your home if it is a smart appliance they KNOW where you are, how many times you wash your clothes, dry your clothes, cook, clean where you set your thermostat, etc. In short, THEY control you.
As shown here, they control your ability to use power when and where you need it – they can isolate one completely from the grid as well. The bigger problem they go all out to hide is the amount fo dirty electricity and radiation these devices produce whithin your home.
People are getting sick from the radiation, and the dirty electricity produced because of the switch mode power supply in the meter is in the range to cause physical harm to the body. The utilities are lying to the American public and have been – they are gouging prices and controlling your lives. Rely on your own research and find out the dangers these systems pose without your knowledge and without being infomred by the utilities.
Check with your insurance company as a lot of carriers DO NOT cover smart meter fires on your homes or businesses. This is yet another draconian control tactic from your favorite NWO sponsors.
re: “People are getting sick from the radiation,”
Uh, sunlight is radiation. About 1,000 Watts per square meter high noon at the lower latitudes. This is FAR AND AWAY stronger than anything the wireless providers put out …
Smart meter…. put an EMF reader next to one of those babies and see how high it reads. Now go inside and check it against the wall where it rests against your child’s sleeping head. Nothing smart about that.
Not going to worry about EMF because I don’t know what EMF is. There. Problem solved.
If you can control you appliances from your phone so can others.
IF that isn’t communism i don’t know what is. FJB.
I wouldn’t use the air conditioner nearly so much if I could leave my windows open at night. But with open borders, open jails, and fentanyl zombies on the streets, those days are long gone.
When government orders the energy company to off your AC (to save electricity) and the water company to off your water (to save water), you are forced to participate in the surprise depopulation program by sweating, dehydrating and dying…for the GREATER GOOD!
State Farm has the same program where you can plug the little computer into your ODBII port and they will cut your premium. LMAO I told the lady I did not want State Farm spying on my driving and then trying to use it against me if I have an accident
Stupid is as stupid does. Only “STUPID PEOPLE” who THINK they are “SMART” live in a so-called “SMART HOUSE”. This is just one of the many reasons NO ONE should live in a so-called “SMART HOUSE” and one of the many reasons why I live in a “DUMB HOUSE” where I have control of everything in and around it.
What is to prevent the state from requiring all people have these type thermostats?
Tell them to go pound sand.
Anyone with a slight bit of electrical compensation can bypass the outside controlling to an inside if the find this happening.