The DOJ has filed a response to the motion by President Trump for the court to appoint a special master to review the seized material from the DOJ/FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago. [Court pdf Here] Additionally, the outside government Lawfare group has filed an amicus brief supporting the DOJ-NSD position [Amici court pdf Here]
Essentially the position of the DOJ boils down to… They have already reviewed the material. Yes, there was attorney-client privilege material seized; but they swear the internal team segregated the legally confidential material and the DOJ investigators & prosecutors didn’t see it – double pinkie swear, yer honor.
Additionally, in a nice lawfare maneuver, the DOJ claims President Trump never formally evoked ‘executive privilege‘ on any material at Mar-a-Lago; therefore, despite his position as a former President, he was/is legally considered an ordinary citizen for the purpose of raiding his home to seize material the government considers vital to national security.
To complement the created DOJ narrative for media consumption, and to assist the media effort for direct distribution of the DOJ position, Main Justice released a picture as an example of the documents seized. The DOJ literally staged and created this photo for media to use, then released it in the court filing. Slick lawfare:
The cover sheets are essentially non sequitur as they do not necessarily describe or affirm the nature of the documented material underneath. “HCS-P/SI/TK” looks all officially looming; however, it doesn’t necessarily mean any of the information is classified as HCS (HUMINT Control System, or human intelligence), SI (special intelligence), or TK (talent keyhole), or SCI (Sensitive Compartmented Information), aka the silos.
One word or paragraph could be considered ‘special intelligence’. Example “FISA” or “FISC”. You might remember our prior discussions that every document that contains the designation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, FISA or FISC, literally those words or abbreviations, is considered classified special intelligence.
Example (as above): Someone might write “the Carter Page FISA application” on a government document. That document is now considered ‘special intelligence‘. That’s how each silo inside the agencies of government keep a cloud over information.
It was not that long ago when the classification rules stated you could not ever publicly use the words “FISA Court,” without running afoul of the rules governing classified special intelligence. Yes, that’s correct, until about three years ago it was a violation of law to even discuss what took place in the FISA court process.
As a result, take the cover letter designations with a grain of salt. The covers are essentially useless for the purpose of understanding what material might be underneath. However, for the purpose of creating an optic, which helps drive a narrative, the oh-so super special cover values are priceless.
Moving beyond the filings, the DOJ narrative engineering is particularly noteworthy. By framing the material seized in such a manner as most people will never understand what the designations mean, Main Justice lays the foundation for the media to obfuscate, portray and define the potential of the evidence.
This is lawfare narrative engineering at its best. It is also very easy to see what comes next because this is a rodeo very familiar to those who watched the media push the DOJ and FBI manufactured stories around the Trump-Russia and Trump/Russia-obstruction cases before.
Just like the examples from 2016 (FBI leaks), 2017 (FBI/DOJ leaks), 2018 (Weissmann/Mueller leaks) and throughout the impeachment constructs (Nadler/Schiff committee leaks), this coordinated Main Justice effort is all done via public consumption of misleading articles produced by allied media working to promote the political interests of the DOJ.
As a result, screaming headlines of “Trump Held National Security Documents“,… and “Intelligence Community now Conducting Risk Assessments“…. and “ODNI Now Launching an Investigation of Classified Documents Found in Mar-a-Lago“…. etc are sure to follow.
Today the focus of media will be pushing the “Top Secret Classified Documents Detailed in DOJ Filing” aspect, hence the photograph becomes a key part of the narrative engineering value. However, within a few media cycles, the narrative will switch to The Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Avril Haines, briefing congress on the documents.
DNI Avril Haines will be the next phase, triggered to assist the emphasis of Main Justice and Lawfare. All of this is coordinated and planned in advance. None of the timing or sequencing is accidental. The best reference was the prior deployment of the same process throughout 2018 (DOJ Weissmann/Mueller) leading up to the midterm election.
Last point. As to the actual nature of the material in the photograph staged by the DOJ for media use, many of the documents you see in the picture are transcripts from the 2018 House Intelligence Committee (HPSCI) investigation and witness testimony. Again, the cover sheets are a moot point. You might remember Representative Doug Collins releasing the witness transcripts (Bruce Ohr, etc) to the public.
Even though those House Intel and House Judiciary transcripts were released to the public, the cover sheets designate how the agencies view the testimony therein. Something can be a public record and still labeled “special intelligence,” that’s just the nature of this ridiculous classification system – or what I call the silo value.
It is likely that Mary McCord is working closely with Norm Eisen (red tie), and perhaps even Barry Berk (blue tie) on these collective efforts. It’s just how they roll.
God , how I loath the DOJ/FBI . Just look at the destruction they have wrought upon the country.
They need to be broken up in such a manner that they can never be an intelligence gathering tool of the Uniparty/Communists.
Agreed, however using the word “intelligence” for these people is a laughing matter. When people lie it’s harder to remembr what they lied about and eventually get caught! These people are paper fanatics, they have everything on paper. Yes they ae smart in how they try to project things, but in the end the actual papers they use do them in. Upon further scrutiny the truth comes out. And when they are eventually put under oath they can’t awser the basic questions on the reliability of their investigation. example Bob Muellers testimony, and the others. The biggest problem is the swamp lawyers/judges that run the show.
It’s a mistake to think that they expect people to believe what they say. This is a raw exercise of power. The disconnect between their assertions and reality are a feature, not a bug.
“Intelligence” and “FBI” should never be used together. TRUE personal story:
In February 2002, a few months after 9/11, and semi-retired, I patriotically applied to be a technivcal clerk at the FBI Boston HQ. I, along with a few dozen other applicants, took a series of written multiple choice tests in a large classroom.
There were 5 tests, with the first 4 being various alphabetic sorting, etc., and we were allowed 12 to 15 minutes (it varied) on each of the tests. The 5th and last test was arithmetic (NOT algebra!!). The Special Agent (packing heat and a badge on his belt) administering the tests said, “We all know math is a little tough, so instead of the stated 15 minutes, I’m going to allow 30 minutes.” I finished in about 10 minutes and left the room, never to return — I didn’t want to be on the losing team while they were chasing Al Qaeda.
The FBI is recruiting people who are bad at math. Fair warning.
Be nice. Counting on fingers and toes takes time!
We would be a much safer country without the current implementation of the Patriot Act. The fourth branch is more of a threat to our Republic than terrorists. In fact they are terrorists.
Lawfare is a threat to our democracy.
A movie about them would be very edifying.
I despise Andrew Weissman.
If one looks carefully at many Lawfare-inspired federal statutes, we see that they are framed by many clauses, the first three or four of which present clear, objective, legal standards that no one would disagree with, followed then, at the tail end, by several more subjective, nebulous standards that would require a lengthy, meticulous and expensive presentation of evidence before a jury.
Under the inspiring influence of Soviet Russia and the Chinese Communist Party, Lawfare has promoted such legal formulations to be used as a legal basis for federal agencies to skirt the law when convenient to their often-sinister purposes, and, just as importantly, to ensnare political enemies in politically motivated litigation to silence or bankrupt them.
In other words, Lawfare is Deep State’s most important weapon to maintain its corrupt power and to cleanse all governmental structures of potential adversaries and political opponents.
Often lawfare approach is to take 2 unrelated statutes, conflate the two, taking one part of one, and one part of another (both out of context) to create a law and violation where none exists.
Or, they criminalise ADMINISTRATIVE law “violations” and portray and even prosecute them as criminal violations.
And, particularly when it comes to PDJT, they seem to focus on generating cases they ultimately can not win in legal courts, in order to convict him in ‘the Court of Public Opinion’.
Their strategies HAVE worked with “lesser mortals” in PDJT’s orbit, even if only peripherally; Carter Page, Manafort, Cohen, etc. but they have yet to actually ‘tag’ PDJT once, and have untimately lost EVERY case in the Court of Public Opinion, when the verdict is finally rendered.
Read “Licensed to Lie” by Sidney Powell
Exactly…Whenever I see the pictures of those three men, smirking away, I have this urge to grab the three of them, and crucify all along I-95.
Make America Execute Traitors Again.
At the risk of incurring wrath from all sides, I’ll say that it doesn’t escape my notice and probably that of millions of others that the names of those trying to frame Trump and anyone not a Dem are disproportionately from one ethnic group just as the names of those belonging to the mobs of many of our largest cities are Italian.
The Judge said SEALED.
The staged photo violated
her order. They are so arrogant, they just showed the Judge who they are all in the effort to taint Trump. Big mistake.
General Master granted, I predict, and will she address the violation of her
order…
Will she address the fact that the opposing counsel pilfered through attorney-client privileged material pertinent to ongoing civil litigation against opposing counsel’s client(s)?
Disbarring those DOJ hack “attorneys” should be paramount.
Perhaps move to have them prevented from practicing in Florida’s Norther, Middle, and Southern District for violating local/federal ethics rules? Hmmm. I will be busy tonight chasing this down.
So what weasel Pollak? You are trying your best to make this look sinister. I would say “nice try” but it’s actually a pathetic try befitting you and your ilk.
It was satire. Joel Pollack is a good guy.
Joan (that was my mother’s middle name) so I’ll watch my tongue.
Most of us take all these matters very seriously. But we also need our chuckles now and then.
Chuckles are good, and in Sundance’s very forthright post there were some good ones to enjoy.
Lastly, Pollak’s levity in no way has a sinister purpose. It was just gallows humor.
But even more importantly, his humor does reflect a deep truth, i.e., Deep State, in this illegal raid, attempted, under the cover of legality, to know what Trump can prove in a court of law. That’s what his humor captured!
Look again at the cover pages Joan. Sarcasm at its best.
I wouldn’t be getting my hopes up high with this special master BS.
and it’s too late anyway. they have already pilfered and copied anything they might want
Violation was to pressure the judge to drop it. It it was DC, it would work. Let’s hope Florida rebukes this corruption.
“Big mistake”
is it? no one cares.
A note: these pictures are not at Mar-Lago nor staged in DC.
These were the pictures taken by the ARCHIVIST mentioned in the Affidavit who REFERRED the matter to the DoJ.
Look at the “box of magazines” in the right side of the picture and recall the report from the Archivist. There were boxes of magazines and newspaper articles as well as documents “marked classified”. There is NO proof of what is under those DOCUMENT COVERS in the Archivist staged photo.
Archivists by the nature of their job have clearances and undergo ALL the annual training and then some due to the level of clearances they may have. That Archivist would have KNOWN to look at the actual cover sheets to determine their actual status as the DOCUMENT COVERS shown DO NOT indicate actual classification of the documents under them….and if the documents were in fact Classified…the Archivists and anybody related to taking and circulating these pictures committed a Federal Crime.
Many people voting for democrats couldn’t name the 3 branches of government or who we fought in WWII.
All of this subtlety is lost on them, and so they fall for the scam hook, line and sTinker.
Thank you for your insightful observations and comments.
Typical liberal guess at the 3 branches of government:
1) Free cheese & EBT administration (formerly the you don’t need a man to raise a family dept).
2) School loan forgiveness and gender/bender studies certification (formerly the underwater basket weaving administration).
3) Dept of Hurt Feelings and victimhood status certification.
Are you saying that the Germans didn’t bomb Pearal Harbor, or that Eisenhower didn’t win the war in the Pacific. 🤔🤗😁/s
It’s a blatant, in your face, set prop of a picture.
It’s meaningless.
But the idiocracy will lap it up.
So if Trump were ever indicted and went to trial, would this release potentially taint a potential jury pool. Seems to me by releasing staged stuff to the press to justify any potential charge should be illegal.
Former President Donald Trump filed an amended version of his RICO lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and a constellation of other anti-Trump conspirators only weeks before the FBI’s raid of Mar-a-Lago.
This is a revealing development that’s received virtually no media coverage.
The “copies” of evidence to be used in the RICO case stolen by the FBI were not so much to remove or confiscate evidence as to identify and expose, to the defendants in the RICO case, a “list and copy” of the Evidence President Trump’s Team actually has in hand.
After living under the threat of the full weight of the US Government since 2015, President Trump knew there would actions such as this taken and there will be more. Plus, a FISA Judge will grant a warrant “to spy” based on this incident, to the FBI and INTEL. His team has to have made “certified copies” or actually dispersed the “certified originals”.
The warrants in all their types or flavors are a necessary item to confer legitimacy on the actions, for MSM and la la land dweller consumption.
That would just expose the FISA Court and the corruption even more. The American people have had enough of FISA Courts and illegal spying. When the Republicans get the reigns of power again, if there is not a full throated effort to kill the Patriot Act then you know where the true criminals can be found….hiding behind the nation’s national security interest.
The “Republicans” had their CHANCES at least during Bush II’s 2nd term as well as 2017-2018 to change the law and what was the result??
Yes I agree, but that was before the abuses of the FBI and the FISA court that we’ve witnessed over the past six years. How do they defend it now?
Just a minor point, note I commented 2017-2018 but we knew of the abuses as early as 2015-2016.
Chief Justice Roberts is responsible for supervising and manning the FISA Courts. He knows what is happening, especially after the investigation of Admiral Rogers in 2015-16 was covered as part of a Federal Court review by Judge Rosemary Collyer.
They do not have to defend it, when the Uni-Party in congress approved it, the Supreme Court ignores it and the DoJ is run by democrats.
The elective representatives have to defend it and that includes Republicans and Democrats.
Abuse by the FBI have been going on a lot longer than you bother to recognize…….they have been going on ever since the inception of the stupid spy organization.
I agree but I was specifically addressing the Patriot Act and the FISA Courts.
The FISC court came about because the Church Committee exposed abuses in surveillance by CIA, FBI, and IRS.
Senator Frank Church (D-ID), 1975:
In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air. (…) Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies. We must know, at the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left: such is the capability to monitor everything—telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide.
If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology. (…)
I don’t want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.
What are the gonna do if they take the house and senate AGAIN? The same as the did then……NOTHING OF ANY USE AGAIN.
Not just that, but people who would never bother themselves to care are now taking more notice.
There’s as many rinos behind this get PDT effort as dims. Nothing will change with rinos in the majority
Oh I agree completely. Why I have argued now is the time for Trump to run as a Third Party.
We have to destroy the RNC Club to save the country.
Given THEY have established a one party rule in the guise of two parties,…
And placed so many road blocks to creating an effective OFFICIAL Second party, which stands in honest opposition and has political effectiveness, (that is the ability to promote and enact policies in opposition to the Uniparty) creating an OFFICIAL “3rd party” (a genuine SECOND party, really) is obviously a road that is thoroughly blocked.
We HAVE a movement the MAGA movement. The largest such POLITICAL movement in history.
We simply must use its strength in numbers and commitment to take control of one of the two existing parties ‘wings’ anf convert it to our own purposes.
“Magublicans”?
“America First Republicans”
“NEW Republicans”
For lifelong Dems, having “walked away” to join MAGA, some research into the history of the party we are infiltrating and subsuming may be beneficial?
What MAGA is doing, is exactly what the “New” Republican party did, at its inception.
In a sense, we are simply insisting the Republican party “return to its roots” as a “grass roots” INSURGENCY, rising up to overturn an entreanched status quo.
Respectfully, I’ve heard your arguments before but I disagree.
When in our nation’s history has a Party “returned to its roots”?
Parties are about one thing: Power and how to keep it.
It cannot be successfully done and if what you say is true, then there should be a leadership change in the Senate and House. Where is it?
Typically these movements (MAGA) throughout our nation’s history have eventually turned into a new Party, which is the only answer to the problem stated above. Parties eventually get too much Power which leads to corruption. Which leads to a new Party to take its place.
A common misconception promoted by hollywierd because its a great dramatic device, is the idea of “*SURPRISE* in a court case.
RARELY happens in an actual courtroom, whether criminal or civil and the whole structure of the courts is designex in such a way as to avoid it.
In a civil case, such as “DJT vs Hillary er. al., each side knows ALL the evidence the “Other side” has, well in advance.
ALL witnesses are deposed under oath, well before the jury is voire diered.
And, WITH all the evidence, including testimony of “the other side”, its usually pretty easy to deduce what the other sides “strategy” is going to be.
The “raid” WASN’T to “capture the flag” asvin get the docs out of PDJT’s possesion.
And it wasn’t to gleen any meaningful info they didn’t already have.
Still seems to me the only thing it actually accomplished, was PDJT’ enemies, like young children yelling to parents “look at me, LOOK AT ME!” before jumping off the high dive board, as they step on their own dicks, trip and stumble off the side of the board, and land on dry ground.
You mean the FIB would take the “classified” docs whose release to the public are a threat to national security, and give them to the RICO defendants? I’m completely gobsmacked 🙄
There’s this YouTube guy/operation called “Legal Eagle” who used to be an interesting take on various legal details associated with various things going on at any time. But when they started covering Trump and all of that stuff going on now? Holy crap! I trashed them thoroughly on their older videos which claimed “nuclear secrets!” which a short time later was debunked. Repeating media lies as fact on a youtube channel run by lawyers? They are not worried about their reputations but should be very worried.
More recently they made the claim of “depriving people in government of documents they need” by holding them at Mar-a-lago. I schooled them on how classified documents work and that ALL originals are kept at original locations and only marked copies are distributed.
The left is enlisting EVERYONE they can to trash themselves in order to make their lies and false claims seem valid.
Fire the doctors that do not agree with their policy/science!
We know PDJT had his security cameras rolling during the raid. I would imagine many security cameras at different angles in every location thru out ML. Did these corrupt think about that when they were staging the scene? It will be interesting to see the video from the security cameras.
Can’t wait to see PDJT’s evidence/security camera footage. All in good time…
Yep! All in good time.
Most likely “in good time” will be at the upcoming trial after the criminal enterprise formerly known as the DOJ/FBI has had enough rope to hang themselves.
Might be too late to save the nation, but President Trump and his team, using timing, are doing this the right way, through the legal system, for if we are to continue to be a nation of laws, then it is these laws that must be the armament used.
I do hope to be around to see that happen; but, the way these things drag out, might have to figure out if reincarnation is a thing so I can come back and read about the victory in a future history book!
“Patience grasshopper”/
Fog of War has many twists
and turns, I believe we are
WINNING!
none of your business….PDJT will release it when he feels the time is ripe……I would trust his judgement over yours any day of the week
I don’t see anything in that very valid assertion by the OP that could be construed as intruding upon the right of anyone to do whatever they want whenever they want. I also fail to see a judgment call.
YMMV.
No, not at all, Kim.
THEY were ultimately playing to “the Court of public opinion” in every attack on DJT, except with COVID Plandemic and Steal, which was their only succesful “play” so far.
Muh Russia, Impeach 1&2, etc. were ALL to attack and besmirch him and thereby lower his public opinion.
His support has steadily, inexhoribly and in an escalating algorythm, GROWN from the escalator ride on.
So, they have consistently FAILED, “in good time” has eventually come EVERY time, and the jury verdict (from which their is NO appeal) has been rendered in PDJT’S favor, EVERY time.
So, why are you despondent, or worried?
They do what they do, over and over again, even though it hasn’t worked, won’t/can’t work because THATS ALL THEY HAVE.
Someone on here pointed out to me that there are no security cameras in the residence area of Maralago.
Unfortunately…..
The office where the stored those documents were not in the residence area, and his office probably isn’t either. As a former President, the Government gives them money to set up there offices. And I’m sure he didn’t set up his office next to the residential area.
Were those cameras actually tolling? I recall reading that the FBI requested the lawyers to remain outside AND the cameras be turned off. Are there reports to the contrary? I have not seen them.
They said the cameras were not turned off and they have video that will be released.
One other thing, it is the most ridiculous assertion that PDJT had these files on the floor. As if he sat on the floor, rifling thru them. I seriously doubt PDJT has sat down on the floor to do anything in the past 30 years. Maybe just maybe when his kids were babies. Big Maybe.
This is so absurd, pathetic, ridiculous, sick and evil of these corrupt a-holes.
The FBI removed the docs to stage them. I think it says “removed from container.”
The simple answer to any who point to these photos and say “See, DJT,….” is to point out that IF the photos actually portray anything which is ‘classified’,”top secret” etc. than the people who took these photos, and gave them out for publishing, are guilty if the crimes they are accusing PDJT of.
“After all, can’t ‘Americas enemies’ derive intel from the photos?”
And if they backtrack and point out these are just covers, and DOJ/FBI did NOT violate espionage act by publishing photos of these meaningless covers, that PDJT didn’t violate anything by having them.
Frankly, any explanation offered to the public about the raid has the same plausibility as concluding the 2020 election was fair. Therefore, in a country where 2020 is regarded/pushed (by those that hold power) as a fair election, any of the DC swamp chicanery (“justification”) related to the raid will work. The outcome of the 2020 election and the raid are all about one thing: sheer power. They figured they can do it–no one that matters (in their view) can challenge them, so they did it. And it will continue and they will never cede power. However, keyboard fights are allowed (at this time) and here we are. Will the pen be mightier than the sword? Hopium says “Yes!”
So… about the redactions….
“Attachment F (redacted FBI photograph of certain documents and classified cover sheets recovered from a container in the ’45 office’)” – page 13 of DOJ filing
Look at the document immediately above “2A”. The first page is folded back to show the second page – which is electronically redacted. It’s all theater & propaganda.
Interesting. It appears more pages than that are redacted as well, based on your observation.
Why fold the page back just to redact what is uncovered? Optics.
What other manipulations are in this staged photo?
Were the documents removed from a locked container or from a locked room; and were they removed from folders, separated from cover pages, prior to being strewn on the floor? It certainly looks that way.
I want to know when will all these smug corrupt criminal treasonous bastards dance from a jib?
When enough of us unite. It only takes 2-3% of th US population. there are only 4-5k CFR members. Unsure of how many Secret Society /SES/descendents of Rockefeller, Rhodes and Rothschild there are
I would prefer “Keel Hauling”…
NEVER!!!
How do we the people put an end to all the corrupt agency, that we the people work under, not enough people speaking out.
Destroy the complicit media and they will never get away with anything. Even FOX would call them out if the other media weren’t so mean to them.
How is it that so far, this FBI has gotten away with:
Take in mind that the FBI/Biden regime got all of the above and only had to give up one lackey (Tim Thibault). They probably think they got a great deal.
I’m glad to see from the Treehouse that the case against Trump seems weak, but we need to cut the feet from under Biden and extract the good agents from the FBI before shutting that corrupt agency down.
https://twitter.com/austerewyatt1/status/1474885189717401604 (Twitter suspended this account)
One year ago today, someone took out a block of Nashville.
Strange how quickly that disappeared.
I guess the FBI found the FBI was involved and called off the FBI.
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In My Opinion….the only good agents left have left or they don’t care about anything but their check every pay day. If they really cared they would have left a long time ago.
The totally CRIMINAL DOJ lawfare lawyers targeting an ex-president should be DISBARRED and JAILED for CRIMES AGAINST America and TRUMP. It’s ABUSE of POWER, INTERFERRING in ELECTIONS, creating ELECTION FRAUD, outright PERSECUTION using guilt by ACCUSATION and so much more ABUSE. McCord et all of her cronies deserve nothing less than an electric chair for what they have put America through over the past years. SHE and this lawfare group are the REAL CRIMINALS!
We’ll be lucky if even one gets the Clinesmith treatment! Law license reinstated after just one year!!!
It would be incredibly easy for the corrupt FBI to totally fake the picture. I’m sure they can easily get their hands on Secret document covers and just toss a bunch of them on the floor with some fake documents they created that look legit and take a picture. This photo may fool a corrupt judge and all of the corrupt corporate media (Fox included in that) but it is meaningless.
Totally meaningless. These cover sheets are just that, cover sheets. They COVER what is underneath for a reason. The reason for these cover sheets is obvious. To cover their photo op. They are mass produced and used in every government agency, DoD contractor and DoD security environment. They are relying on the masses to fall for this stunt.
Yes, we had them in the military. The cover sheets are not classified, and we stored them in an unlocked cabinet.
The boxes of frames are less likely memes but TIME covers.
The Fake News set the tone for many attacks on President Trump.
Weaponized Media. Framed.
The media today is sort of like the ‘scientist’ of today, and a lot of the ‘doctors’ of today. Not many believe in any of them.
The articles probably contain many untrue statements and are part of the evidence.
Good that Trump is still pushing the envelope and exposing the fascists for all to plainly see.
However, the “special master” will likely be as useless as Trump’s AGs, Huber, Durham et. al as they are part of the Establishment and thus play for the other team–as they’re supposed to.
Don’t believe our salvation will come through the system. The “system” has been hijacked. It doesn’t switch sides based upon elections. And for that reason it must be dismantled. Until that happens, however that happens, I wouldn’t expect much to change.
In the long run they don’t win. And even if they lock up Trump he becomes a martyr for the cause.
How much longer can they survive is the question. My guess is that food and energy shortages brought about by their decisions, on top of Covid vax injuries and deaths, will bring them down before the end of Biden’s term.
I pray G-d is reading this.
The good news is this is going to hurt them BADLY one way or another.
They didn’t find what they were looking for and they won’t be able to stop the boomerang when Trump is back.
If Trump’s team were to use these tactics against Obama (who is still behind all of this I’m quite sure) it would be 100% justified.
Justified, No … Understandable, Yes.
To say it is not justified is to acknowledge that every Democrat and Republican involved should end up behind bars if this Nation is going to survive this. We are talking about the biggest crime in US history. Understandable doesn’t fly if this is not the end result.
Justification is not revenge. Making evildoers pay for their crimes is justified. Doing it to “get even” is not.
The difference is there’s actual evidence to justify raids, confiscation etc, on Hussein.
like we are suppose to believe POTUS has those spread on the floor.
First from the few Pics I have seen over the years of POTUS at
his desk in his business in Trump Tower his desk was rather
disorganized and a bit messy things were not laid out nice and neat.
and did POTUS just happen to put the 2A in the display ?
The staged photo for some reason reminds me of the Las Vegas shooters hotel room floor with all the guns and ammo and so forth.
You know, the case the FBI gave up on because they are too busy or too dumb to figure it out, or maybe it was staged and they screwed up and can’t tell us because of “sources and methods”.
It looks like the gun toting agent dudes who also ruffled through Melania’s panty drawers just took it to the nearest hotel, threw it on the floor and took some photos, like the ballot mules at the ballot boxes, to prove they had done the dirty deed and should be paid.
The only thing missing from the photo is the collection of bras and panties they stole from Melania.
Donald Trump has single handedly made the legal community great again. They are making money like never before both for and against him. Now if they would leave him alone and let him help us again. That would be great.
Like a bitter divorce its always the lawyers who benefit the most.
Ric Grenell was just on Warroom and said that whoever at FBI staged the photo of the documents should be fired immediately. It is an obvious attempt at spin as Sundance has noted.
In addition, there are no nuclear documents , which was leaked at first and the DOJ acknowledges the Presidential Records Act as having no enforcement on page two. So, now three weeks later they are trying to claim obstruction of Justice.
Apparently that is a pathetic ruse on their part.
The special master is terrifying to them.
Also, rumors that the dam is bursting and the rank and file want Wray out.
“In addition, there are no nuclear documents , which was leaked at first and the DOJ acknowledges the Ptresidential Records Act as having no enforcement on page two. So, now three weeks later they are trying to claim obstruction of Justice.”
Quite a difference between the court filings and what is leaked to the media……..which gleefully runs with it and doesn’t bother with pesky fact checks that violate the narrative being set.
Barnes claims that grenell is deep state.
That would be awful IF true.
I don’t listen to anything Barnes says…
Why not?
I heard what Barnes said about Grenell. I don’t think he mean “Deep State” as much as the fact that Grenell is a product of the way the US government does business.
That may be true but it doesn’t mean that Grenell, like all of us in fields that have big fat problems, are complicit or supportive of the problems in our line of work.
Also, Barnes overstates things, I’ve noticed.
Well, wasn’t Grenell supposed to declassify some documents or something important but never did?
Grennell was under the same constraints that Sundance has written extensively about.
Grenell did declassify quite a bit. Ratcliffe who followed him did not come through.
Aren’t they all?
Great- so OBiden picks the replacement.
That will help /s
Coup leader Mark Zaid is trying to insert TDS addled Heidi Kitrosser as Special Master.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/30/august-30th-2022-presidential-politics-resistance-day-588/comment-page-4/#comment-9140625
I don’t look for this stuff but it smacks me in the face when the first thing I notice in a staged photo is a square.
They used it to measure Melania’s bras and panties.
Then you have the senile cadaver threatening American citizens with nukes and F-15s (which are obsolete) again yesterday too. Makes me wunder if theyre trying to provoke Americans into a confrontation to bolster their soviet style tactics. DJT needs to have his ducks in a row for whats coming.
Show me the man, and Ill show you the crime.
~ garland
I definitely see this entire thing as: “psy ops.”
Remember: these are the sort of people who, despite their business suits and ugly ties, “live by the sword.” As we all very clearly saw when they hired “Antifa” and turned them on the American people in their own cities, these people regard violence as a tool. It is no accident that Jesus finished his sentence by saying that such people “shall die by it,” because such violence always turns on its makers and consumes them. (Just ask Maximillian Robespierre …) 💀
But they don’t know anything else. They have contempt for “The Rule of Law,” and know nothing at all about “The Power of Peace.” They also know absolutely nothing about the nation which they profess to rule.
In the end, they will hurl themselves off the cliff while calling upon all the rest of us to follow. But, no one will. Danté literally reserved a special Circle of Hell just for such people, “for they are legion.”
If you think classification of documents is arbitrary and capricious now, just wait until the whole of government switches over to the CUI system…
https://www.archives.gov/cui/registry/category-list
For those interested, CUI = Controlled Unclassified Information
This is not new. The system and rules may have been rewritten (or updated) but there has been a category called CUI for a long time and included items classified as FOUO (For Official Use Only). There are handling and storage rules for CUI, just as there are for Classified Materials.
There are also rules involving “co-location of CUI” that actually in SUM can become “Classified” to some level depending on the information and materials. The dangerous part of the “co-location” rules is that one never really knows they fall under the co-location rules until inspection time. I had this one bite me more than a few times..when I had combinations of UNCLASSIFIED (old) DTIC materials on my shelves along side my “modern” UNCLASSIFIED work.
There are documents called Security Classification Guides on the topics listed at the link in the article related to already classified materials and one will never know when one kicks a trip wire in a Classification Guide until the boom during an inspection.
In normal times, a correctable administrative error but these are not normal times and technically can be a land mine spun into a legal issue.
What a chaotic idea. “Classification” only serves its purposes of information security when everyone clearly knows what to do with the material. There should be no ambiguity. Every “inspection” should be perfunctory, always finding nothing wrong.
Because, if anything is found, it means that the security of the information might have been [unintentionally(?)] compromised. And “the security of the information” is supposed to be the entire point.
In “normal times”: unless one is a serious repeat offender, the materials involved were truly a danger to security, there is proof of premeditated violations, there is an obvious pattern, etc. etc. …. violations were “normally” handled as correctable violations administratively.
In fact entities with good security staff and systems actually conducted quarterly checks and monthly there are logs and reports to be submitted, which did a pretty good job of keeping one out of trouble. Then there was the Government Inspection annually.
As I said, unless something really serious and repeatable is involved…it was handled administratively and account holder involved just had the crap scared out them to keep them on their toes.
That was “normally” but the system is easily manipulated if the intent is punish and legally harm somebody that we are seeing unfold before us.
You can throw out the word normal from now on. It doesn’t exist.
That picture doesn’t mean squat.
During my AF time and having access to classified material up to TS/SCI, I also had access to the cover sheets like they show in the picture. Anyone with such access could reasonably have some on their person, throw down some paper and toss those cover sheets on them.
Staged I would say.
Last I knew, a sitting president has the authority to declassify anything he wants. That said, then reason says the material shipped to Trump should be declassified and no classification cover sheet is needed.
It is all “Bad Guys” stay out of jail bullshit. What does any of this have to do with the American people in terms of rectifying the 2020 fraudulent election?
Do I care from a practical standpoint what is classified or not classifide? Of course not, what I care about is having the lawful President elected by the people sitting in the Oval Office.
How are the “people sitting in the Oval Office” going to elect the “lawful President” ?
And, it doesn’t matter if cover-sheets were or were not removed, nor if any pages still have markings that were not crossed out. The President said that the materials were declassified, therefore they were. Literally, “because he(!) said so.”
Those materials were delivered to Mar-a-Lago while President Trump was still President™, and he had a legally-binding standing order that all such materials were deemed to be declassified, to further reinforce what he had verbally said.
The rules which apply to “everyone else, specifically including Hillary Clinton,” magically do not apply to The President.™
Sorry Mike…because the “President said so” means zero unless it is documented which documents linkage of his orders to materials involved. It is in the same law that gives Authority and defines how Authority must be exercised.
The Picture shows DOCUMENT COVERS and NOT the Cover Sheets.
The Cover Sheet is an actual page that is part of the materials involved and documents the status of the overall document as well as details as to whom declassified it, dates and remaining handling instructions. As a minimum this page needs to be completed and covers the declassification requirements even if portion markings are not all properly completed.
The other mitigating documents that help include: memo’s after the VOCO (Vocal Order) was issued as well as document logs updated to reflect the order.
You are dead wrong again.
Notice the words “exercising his statutory power.”
again you come on to pander your fantasy information that you think the rules made for the bureaucracy apply to POTUS…they do NOT…..get a CLUE dude
If you read carefully….. This statute in no way limits the Constitutional Authority of the President, or words to that effect.
Is “2A” in the photo correlated to the Property Receipt?
The Property Receipt lists item 2 as “leatherbound box of documents” and 2A as “Various classified/TS/SCI documents”. Were items “2A” removed from item “2”?
So far, the photo, whether staged by the DOJ or previously provided by the Archivist, looks simply like materials any President would compile and hold for their future Presidential Library.
That the DOJ is criminalizing a complain by the Archivist screams desperation. Looking forward to see how large a crowd the upcoming Trump Rally in Pennsylvania will be (also praying for protection for all in attendance, including PDJT).
The FBI filing states “from a container in the ’45 office’”
I would bet 95% of the material is CYA of some bureaucrat covering himself because he had some information that could put him in peril if things shook out the wrong way.
The DOJ should arrest Trump and all the info should be entered into evidence for a jury of American citizens to look at, otherwise it’s all bullshit
Jedi Mind Tricks from the DOJ.
They got caught and released a intentional diversion for the waiting lapdog media and big tech.
Looking forward to the release of the Mar-A-Lago video.
I can’t believe someone would take a photo like that and have it taken seriously…childish.
Anyone notice the case number and details in blue upon dark blackish brown background? What then is Case 9:22-mj-08332?
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64872441/united-states-v-sealed-search-warrant/
Does everyone involved in that raid have the highest security clearance? If not, then whoever laid out those documents was mishandling classified info.
If the DoJ does not bring charges against the photographer then it has absolutely no case against Trump.
No, they were handling declassified info.
Regardless of whether they “still had classified markings” that had not been crossed out, The President™ had declassified them merely by stating that they were.
That’s my point… you cannot have both classified documents and have a raid team lay them out and photograph them. The latter is proof of non-classified.
These are the actions of a criminal cabal that is now utterly terrified.
So I am suppose to believe that 78 Year old overweight POTUS got down
on the floor, nicely laid out the papers in groups, then stuck the 2A display sign
on it and what left it there undisturbed while he has been gone from MAL for
like 3 months . Is that the story I am suppose to believe?
Wow. Talk about doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on their smugness and know-it-all attitude. Karma is coming.
The discovery process should be even more interesting.
These people are scum.
Enemies.
“You forgot to take this one”
-ildonaldotrumpo gab
“LOOK AT THAT SEXY MAN!!!😍😍😍
THEY BETTER RETURN THOSE!!!”
ilDonaldoTrumpo gab
Remember the famed TIME Magazine interview
Remember-President Trump found “gold in the walls” of White House.
Remember his two scoops:
https://time.com/donald-trump-after-hours/
..next clip starts to play, this time showing Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley asking Clapper and former acting Attorney General Sally Yates if they ever requested that the names of Trump, his associates or members of Congress be identified by name, or unmasked, in a legal intelligence intercept. “Watch them start to choke like dogs,” Trump says, having fun. “Watch what happens. They are desperate for breath.”
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2022/08/trumps-attorney-general-explains-raid-trumps-lloyd-billingsley/
FTA ““Number one is that I think a lot of the attacks on the FBI are over the top because a decision like this is not made by the FBI,” former Attorney General William Barr told the Bari Weiss podcast on August 25.
“In fact, I don’t think the FBI would push a decision that it’s best to go in and search and obtain those documents after being jerked around for a year and a half. The decision would be made at the Department of Justice, by subordinates of the AG, and ultimately signed off on by the AG. The FBI would be told to go and execute it. I think the idea that the FBI is the problem here is misplaced.”
During the Ruby Ridge siege of 1992, the FBI deployed massive military force against a single family. FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi shot unarmed Vicki Weaver in the head as she held her infant child. Snipers are trained carefully to “acquire” the target so the killing was not accidental, as FBI boss Louis Freeh claimed in 1995.
Barr spent two weeks organizing former attorney generals to defend Horiuchi, who already had government lawyers working on his behalf. Barr told reporters he was not directly involved in Ruby Ridge but the Washington Post revealed that the DOJ made 20 telephone contacts with the operation, two of them from William Barr. The Weaver family filed a wrongful death lawsuit and the DOJ paid $3 million. When an Idaho county filed criminal charges against Horiuchi, Barr sought immunity for the FBI sniper.”
So this tub of lard blowhard believes President Trump was jerking around the FBI!! “Whatever special tasks the FBI has planned, former attorney general William Barr will be there to back them up, just as he did with FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi. The defender of the deep state can be no friend of the people.” Amen and Amen!!!
Can the DOJ prove that these documents were contained in that box and not brought in with the raiders? Sundance as always puts the classification mess into perspective.
How can it be proven that these documents were indeed in that box?
All these leaks and allegations cause me to trust the media, the DOJ and the FBI less. Everything is based on the assumption Trump didn’t declassify these the docs that were classified and that is why the Media, DOJ and FBI are softening up Kash Patel and why they will probably find something to indict him for.
The minute I see a report that assumes these docs are (now) classified. I stop and don’t go any further. The question is are they classified or did Trump declassify them.
I read Executive Order 13952 on classifications from the Bush Administration and I can tell you that Trump could declassify in any manner he deemed appropriate and the formalities of that executive order are not applicable to him at all.
infuriating. burning helpless rage
@realDonaldTrump
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Terrible the way the FBI, during the Raid of Mar-a-Lago, threw documents haphazardly all over the floor (perhaps pretending it was me that did it!), and then started taking pictures of them for the public to see. Thought they wanted them kept Secret? Lucky I Declassified!
@realDonaldTrump
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Whatever happened to NUCLEAR, a word that was leaked early on by the FBI/DOJ to the Fake News Media!
Wotta Crock!
The FBI lied to the FISA Court.
The FBI lied about bugging Trump Tower and spying on Trump.
The FBI lied about Carter Page.
The FBI lied about the Trump/Russia collusion hoax.
The FBI lied about the “very fine people” hoax.
The FBI lied about the Hunter Biden laptop.
The FBI lied about Christopher Steele.
The FBI lied about George Papadopolus.
The FBI lied about inflitrating the January 6th protest.
The FBI lied about Ray Epps.
The FBI lied about colluding with Facebook and other Tech Giants to interfere with the election.
The FBI lied about (fill in the blank).
But this picture is the truth?
I don’t think so.
Oh, by the way, were framed Time Magazine covers listed on the Search Warrant? I must have missed that paragraph. Man, what would happen if Russia got a hold of those!
Anyway, how could all of that stuff fit in that box?
The picture frames alone are too wide for the box and have to be set in at an angle to fit in the box so they obviously would not lay flat and the lid would not fit on the box if they were in the position that they are shown.
How about a video of the agents unsealing the box and taking these specific documents out and laying them out exactly as we see? No possibility of planting anything or forging anything, eh? How about an exact inventory and a chain of custody record? Remember the Biden administration tried to get you to believe a stage set was the White House.
What in the crap is this? If your argument was that these documents are a matter of national security, why the hell would you organize them neatly, take a picture and, then put on social media for all to see? Can only hope the judge see’s this as an insult to her intelligence.
That is so obviously staged. First give away is the tacky hotel carpet they are laying on. So the FBI took the “oh so secret” documents and spread them out on a floor in a hotel. Where did they keep them after that? Looks to me like they broke all security protocols in handling them. I’ve said many times during this that MAL has a SCIF. President Trump needed one at all of his residences in order to, at the very least, receive his PDB’s. PDB’s are always classified and have to kept in a SCIF. This is all so rigged.
Mar-a-Lago of course has a “SCIF,” which Trump used throughout his Presidency.
Therefore, if any documents were kept in a closet – double-locked in the manner that government agents had requested – then this is itself a very clear indication that these documents were now declassified.
Literally, “because he(!) said so.”
McCord that traitorous Dirtbag is besties with that 2 faced 🐷 Laura Ingraham. So keep that in mind as you watch the phony Ingraham Angle which I disavowed 6 years ago.
Ingraham is the worse kind of RINO and BACKSTABBING witch 🧙♀️!
Yes with her cross around her neck knowing she is two faced. Never could stand her style. So phoney. I have been attacked on here more than once for speaking out about her. I always took it knowing at some point everyone would catch on.
Trying the imbecilic orange man bad gambit, again. This farce needs to end.
“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.” R W Emerson
No, this farce needs to play out.
The Durham investigation had PDJT ‘in check’; he supposedly couldn’t release the info, because to do so would subject him to ACCUSATIONS of “interfering in an ongoing investigation” and CHARGE of “Obstruction of Justice”.
But, “Check” is NOT “Checkmate”.
WHY hsven’t Tony Bobilinsky and the computer shop repair guy been charged with Obstruction of Justice, for making information public, which was relevant to an “ongoing investigation”?
They had info, ‘testimony’ and documentation directly relevant to the (supposed) investigation.
They went on Tucker Carlson, as PRIVATE CITISENS, and shared the documents, the emails and their testimony of what they experienced, with the public.
Point being, PDJT is currently a PRIVATE CITISEN.
He has documentary evidence directly relating to the (fake) Durham investigation.
He isn’t covering up the evidence, nor is he generating false evidence, so HOW, exactly is he “Obstructing Justice” if he makes the evidence public?
And how would him doing so be any different than what Bobilinsky and the computer repair guy did, when they went on TC?
The next two weeks would be perfect for the release. Any later and there won’t be enough time to contradict the MSM and Dem surrogates. Oh yeah can’t forget those lovely Rino’s.
Yes, why couldn’t any normal private citizen offer to “share” the info????
Yes I agree. President Trump should release the evidence on the deep state now.
Please release what you declassified before you left office sir.
America wants to know the truth!
He should have released it all years ago. But he didn’t. And he’s not going to now. It is for some reason…that we do not see.
Keep an eye on all the changes in tone and posture he has gone through recently at https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump. You will find that there are none.
But, “Check” is NOT “Checkmate”.
Because there is no actual investigation of Hunter Biden and his laptop. DOJ just ignores the people talking about it. If they were to charge Bobilinsky or the computer tech with obstruction, that would be admission that there is an investigation in progress and at some point they have to charge Hunter, or let him skate like they did for Clinton.
The goal is to goad Trump into doing something so they can charge him with obstruction.
They’re not interested in justice.
IMO They’re interested is protecting their crooked friends in the so called DOJ and congress.
Simple. When Dems are in charge, they redefine any and all words to suit their agenda. Example: “Obstruction of Justice” now means “Obstruction of (the Department of) Justice.”
Man, Dutch….
That certainly seems plausible!
Candidate Trump was an ordinary citizen before he was elected President
and
resumed being an “ordinary” citizen
since;
according to the liars, cheats and thieves…
he is no longer President.
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Of course, everybody
-across the world-
knows that
VSG President Donald Trump
is most certainly
not ordinary.
It will.
These are the same people who are fighting for non-discrimination…the ones who accuse the right of being discriminatory?
It needs to end…you are so right (no pun intended, but hey!).
Yes!!! This is all such bs!!!!
So are we suppose to believe President Trump had this mess of papers casually tossed on his floor when the fib arrived?
Or are we suppose to be ok with the fib tossing these super duper top secret documents on the floor, snapping pics of them, and then posting them for all the world to view? GBAB!!!!!