In the spring and summer of 2018 everyone became aware of the DOJ and FBI collective effort to target President Trump under the false guise of a Trump-Russia collusion claim.
It must have been extremely frustrating for a sitting president to know there was nothing to the claims yet be constantly bombarded by media and political people in Washington DC who held a vested interest in maintaining them.
By the time we get to September of 2018 the basic outline of the FBI use of the Trump-Russia targeting operation were clear. However, the Robert Mueller investigation was at its apex, and anyone in/around Donald Trump was under investigation for ancillary issues that had nothing to do with Russia.
It was into this fray of constant false narratives that President Trump first made statements that he would declassify documents related to his targeting. It was after Trump made those statements when the real motives of putting Robert Mueller as a special counsel became clear.
With Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused from anything to do with the Trump-Russia investigation, it was Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein who delivered the message to President Trump in September of 2018, shortly before the midterm election, that any action by him to release documents, now under the purview of the Mueller special counsel, would be considered an act of “obstruction” by the DOJ/FBI people charged with investigating him.
Immediately after meeting with Rod Rosenstein, Trump tweeted:
This was the first act of betrayal by political operatives within Main Justice who did not recognize or accept the concept of the ‘unilateral executive.’ According to Rod Rosenstein, FBI Director James Comey, Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, and even later (including recently) AG Bill Barr, the office of the president cannot exercise unilateral executive authority when he himself is the subject of their investigative power.
In essence the DOJ and FBI, along with white house counsel and a collaborating senate and media, kept President Trump from declassifying and releasing documents by threatening him with impeachment and/or prosecution if he defied their authority. The threats created a useful Sword of Damocles, and blocked Trump from acting to make documents public.
In the months that followed President Trump frequently made public statements and tweets about the frustration of documents not being declassified and released despite his instructions to do so. Many Trump supporters also began expressing frustration.
The external debate and consternation surrounded how the Administrative State has seemingly boxed-in President Trump through the use of the Mueller/Weissman counterintelligence probe, authorized by Rod Rosenstein, where President Trump was the target of the investigation.
A widely held supporter perspective was that President Trump could expose the fraudulent origination of the counterintelligence investigation; of which he is now a target; if he were to declassify a series of documents as requested by congress and allies of his administration. This approach would hopefully remove the sword of Damocles.
The core issue within the debate surrounded two contradictory reference points: (1) President Trump has ultimate declassification authority. Yes; however, in this example President Trump is also the target of the investigation; so, (2) declassification could be viewed by elements within the investigation as ‘obstruction’. Both of these points were true.
Also true was the reality that both laws and politics were in play.
In November 2018 President Trump gave an interview where he discussed the situation as it was visible to him. Democrats and republican opposition, writ large, were working earnestly to remove him from office.
Here’s a link to the General Principles of declassification [SEE HERE] Yes, the President can declassify anything; however, there is a process that must be followed. Executive order 13526 [Citation Here]
Following that declassification process the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, then Dan Coats, and the FBI Director, Christopher Wray, and the Attorney General, in this example Rod Rosenstein, needed to “sign-off” on the declassification.
The process reasoning is simple in the ordinary (non-corrupt) flow of events. The intelligence agencies might need to protect part of the information, such as “sources or methods” of intelligence contained within the classified material.
Under ordinary declassification procedures the President would likely not want to compromise the ‘sources’ and ‘methods’ and would defer to the intelligence experts.
President Trump is aware of material that he can use to defend himself from the ongoing ‘impeachment’ plans of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. However, President Trump is also seemingly aware of the issues within the process to gain access to the material and actually use it. This is where the concentric circle of lawyers around the Office of The Presidency come into play.
We have the constitution, we have laws, and we have politics.
Moving forward there are three background threads that are critical to understanding how this process has unfolded so far:
- The Declassification Conundrum.
- Understanding the Ramifications of President Trump as a target.
- Understanding how intelligence is compartmented.
All three of these issues come into play.
Unfortunately, if you have not already invested the time in those three aspects it is easy, very easy, to get lost.
Because none of the legal linguistics took into account the reality of the actual process for declassifying information, many people were stuck thinking President Trump held sole authority to classify and declassify intelligence without understanding the process.
Declassification of intelligence is a process, and each person -within the executive branch- inside the process must agree to the process. Making the process even more riddled with issues is the reality that President Trump was the target in a counterintelligence investigation. President Trump was being investigated by Mueller to see if he is under the direct or indirect influence of a foreign power. [In this example, Russia]
The Mueller probe is an originating counterintelligence investigation that ‘can find’ espionage (see Russian indictments) as well as violations of law (Papadopoulos, Manafort, Flynn). It is critical to remember, the originating probe is not a criminal probe; but Mueller and Weissmann can charge criminality if the investigators encounter interference of their counterintelligence probe; these are the process crimes (perjury, obstruction, lying to congress); or if the probe uncovers direct criminal activity (tax evasion, money laundering, FARA violations etc.).
Yes, technically President Trump can declassify anything. However, it is also true that technically POTUS doesn’t actually declassify anything. The Office of the President asks for a document to enter into a declassification review process.
Officials within that process (ODNI, DoD, DoS, FBI, DOJ-NSD, CIA, NSA, etc), based on their unique relationship to the interests within the document(s), can approve or refuse to sign-off based on their specific intelligence interests. This is where compartmented intelligence comes into play.
Any officer who refuses the request for declassification must justify to the intelligence hub; the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI, Dan Coats). The executive branch intelligence official tells the ODNI (Dan Coats) why they, their unique interests, cannot approve of the declassification request.
DNI Dan Coats then informs POTUS why the document is not cleared for declassification.
If he disagrees with the decision of the intelligence official, POTUS then would have to fire, replace and hope the next person in the chain-of-command would sign-off. Given the nuance in the example of President Trump declassifying information that would show he was targeted, and considering the President is under a counterintelligence cloud it was unlikely any officer would break ranks.
President Trump would have to fire people, and keep firing people, until he gets to a person, inside that specific agency, who would comply.
Now stop and be reasonable.
Think about the general political ramifications to that decision. And then think about the ramifications against the reality that President Trump is a target, under the cloud of a counterintelligence probe.
President Trump asks DNI Dan Coats (intelligence hub) to coordinate the declassification of [fill_in_blank]. If he agrees, in November of 2018 Dan Coats then asks all of the compartmented principles with interest in that specific document. That likely includes the DOJ (after the midterm it’s Matt Whitaker), FBI (Chris Wray), and likely DoS (Mike Pompeo – because of the State Dept aspect to Chris Steele). Also, possibly the NSA and/or Cyber Command.
If FBI Director Christopher Wray refuses to declassify the document(s) because it is part of the current Mueller counterintelligence probe, of which Trump was a target, then President Trump would have to fire Chris Wray; and, while awaiting a replacement (Senate confirmation seriously doubtful), the request then falls on FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich. [Who would also likely refuse]
As this hypothetical declassification example is unfolding you can imagine the political damage being carried out. In addition, there’s the looming impeachment process waiting to start. Hopefully, you can see how President Trump could easily be accused of interference or obstruction of justice. So, he had to wait for Mueller to finish.
Here comes the second betrayal and threat.
Mueller completed his investigation in April of 2019.
Within a few weeks, May 2019, the newly appointed and confirmed Attorney General Bill Barr tells President Trump to remove himself from the declassification issue and give him the authority to declassify and release documents because Barr has an investigator (John Durham) to look into the corrupt activity behind the Trump-Russia collusion hoax.
Ten days before he made the request, Bill Barr had enlisted John Durham to look into all of the issues surrounding the targeting of President Trump and the Clinton campaign involvement in the creation of the Trump-Russia collusion story.
At the time most people thought what Barr was doing was a good thing. As a result, President Trump agrees to support Bill Barr and on May 23, 2019, delegates the declassification and release to the Attorney General.
The President is trusting his cabinet officer, the highest law enforcement officer in the country, to do the right thing and expose the wrongdoing he has been the subject of for the past two years.
It was an easy sell, because the purpose of declassification was ultimately to facilitate a DOJ review of how the intelligence apparatus was used in the 2016 election.
However, because the DOJ review encompassed intelligence systems (DOJ, FBI, NSA) potentially weaponized in 2016 for political purposes and intents, a strange dynamic existed.
President Trump carries: (a) declassification authority; but also: (b) an inherent conflict.
In the DOJ endeavor using John Durham, candidate Trump would have been the target of corrupt agency activity; and therefore, Trump would be considered the target/victim if weaponization were affirmed by evidence collected by Durham.
To avoid the conflict President Trump designated the U.S. Attorney General as arbiter and decision-maker for the purposes of declassifying evidence within the investigation:
…”The Attorney General has also been delegated full and complete authority to declassify information pertaining to this investigation, in accordance with the long-established standards for handling classified information.”
Additionally, AG Bill Barr did not need to assemble the intelligence product for approval by the executive (Trump). Instead, the office of the president is granting the AG full unilateral decision-making as to each product being considered for declassification.
At the time we noted, this was a huge amount of trust from the President to the Attorney General, and a big responsibility for William Barr:
[Sec 2] …”With respect to any matter classified under Executive Order 13526 of December 29, 2009 (Classified National Security Information), the Attorney General may, by applying the standard set forth in either section 3.1(a) or section 3.1(d) of Executive Order 13526, declassify, downgrade, or direct the declassification or downgrading of information or intelligence that relates to the Attorney General’s review referred to in section 1 of this memorandum.”
The position-designate slightly works around custom insofar as the intelligence hub, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (Dan Coats), is given conference – but the decision-making was designated to the Attorney General (Bill Barr).
Essentially the DNI will be following the instructions of the AG for this Memorandum. This is slightly unusual; but given the purpose, necessary and expected.
Following protocol, the 2019 Memorandum was specific to the agencies carrying the documentation to be reviewed by the Attorney General: The Secretary of State (Pompeo); the Secretary of Treasury (Mnuchin); the Secretary of Defense (Shanahan); the Secretary of Energy (Perry); the Secretary of Homeland Security (McAleenan); the Director of National Intelligence (Coats); the Director of the CIA (Haspel), and the Attorney General himself (Barr).
Within the memorandum President Trump did not allow AG Bill Barr to delegate authority. However, all agencies were required to respond to Barr’s authority.
The purpose of the Declassification Directive, as it was sold to President Trump, also appeared to permit the DOJ Inspector General to include classified material in the body of the (early 2019) pending report on FISA abuse; this memorandum was granting AG Bill Barr the autonomy to make that decision and declassify that content.
While the purpose of the authority was to empower AG Bill Barr to collect, process and declassify intelligence product that was part of the DOJ investigative review, President Trump did not preclude the public release of intelligence information in advance of the 2019 IG report on FISA abuse.
Much of the intelligence information may be collected external to the IG review parameters (FISA process) and may be released independently as part of stand-alone declassification that pertains to weaponized DOJ, FBI and CIA political activity. Ultimately the decision to release, and the timing therein, was then in the hands of U.S. Attorney General William Barr.
On May 23, 2019, with the Mueller investigation in the rear-view President Trump tweeted:
Unfortunately, as time continued throughout 2019, Attorney General Bill Barr took no action that would declassify any material of interest to the targeting of President Trump.
AG Bill Barr used the “ongoing criminal investigation,” led by the man he appointed, John Durham, as a justification for non-release of documents.
Frustration continues to mount as impeachment efforts against President Trump and the painful reality of the Bill Barr motive starts to settle in.
Bill Barr replaced the obstruction and interference threat carried by Mueller special counsel, with the obstruction and interference threat carried by the Durham special counsel. The ‘ongoing investigation‘ narrative created both swords of Damocles. One created by Rosenstein/Mueller the other created by Barr/Durham.
Then Bill Barr did something even worse. He made sure President Trump could never remove it.
The result?
The special counsel block of investigative material continued from May 13, 2019, all the way to today. The Durham special counsel is an active and ongoing investigation.
This is the dynamic behind the declassification of records.
This is the dynamic where the law is used, structurally weaponized by the institutions who are sworn to uphold it, to protect the interests of the DC Deep State.
This is the dynamic that exposes how the DOJ and FBI are structurally corrupt.
Even as he was departing office, President Trump wanted those documents released. Documents he declassified and outlined in this memo to the DOJ:
[January 19, 2021, Declassification Directive Link]
This is the heart of the battle over documents between the current DOJ/FBI and President Trump.
Again, the threats of a corrupt administration of justice are at the heart of the issue.
This four-year sequence of events, including all of the betrayals and threats made against Donald Trump, all intended to keep him from allowing the public to see the full nature of the corrupt Deep State operation that lies at the heart of our current political strife, is ultimately what led to an FBI raid on his home in Mar-a-Lago.
This is the scale of the issue.
The DOJ and FBI will do everything they can to stop the release of documents outlining how the system worked to target candidate and President Trump.
If the broader American public understood what tools and surveillance systems were used; if the broad American public knew what the DOJ, FBI, intelligence apparatus and aligned Senate committees have done; if the broad American public became aware of the scale and scope of the corruption in DC as it now exists; entire institutions within that framework would start to collapse.
This is what they are trying to stop. That is the scale of their zero-sum approach.
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A great article that highlights some of the most glaring injustices and gross corruption that Trump’s countless political enemies unleashed on him an hour or maybe a minute after his escalator speech–to the present day. The ingratitude that many people, that are not in the crazed left, have toward P Trump is despicable after all he’s sacrificed to MAGA.
Those that were appointed by him and only pretended to be on his side were the worst like A/G Barr. He pretended to be extremely concerned about taking any action that might be considered politically motivated. It was a convenient excuse for Bondo Barr to let all the criminals go free. I suspect Sessions was mostly afraid to challenge PT’s enemies.
Bill Barr is emboldened and has discarded all his previous fakery and is proudly exhibiting his true unedited opinions. He is openly and actively supporting the corrupt nation destroyers and opposing the best interests of the American people.
“Bill Barr: FBI Did Nothing Wrong — ‘Tired of’ Right’s ‘Constant Pandering to Outrage’
“You know, something I’m pretty tired of from- from the Right is the constant pandering to outrage and people’s frustrations. And picking and picking and picking at that sore without trying to channel those feelings in a constructive direction…Well, the Russiagate thing, I think, to the extent the FBI was misused was decisions made toward by high-level officials in the FBI. I don’t think that Chris Wray is that type of leader..”
Barr’s disgusting reference to the multi year “Russiagate thing” and his lack of concern for the numerous FBI raids etc. speaks volumes about how detached or willfully blind this goof is.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/08/26/bill-barr-fbi-did-nothing-wrong-tired-of-rights-constant-pandering-to-outrage/
Barr should be vomited out of the mouth of Life.
I just finished Jared’s book and am stunned at the effort it took to get everything done that they accomplished. All the initiatives could have failed so many times but for the relentless re-thinking of overcoming objections by the teams. Many millions for decades will benefit from the hard work that the Trump administration did by looking at problems and solutions in a new way and what did they get for it from DC? Extreme resentment, lies, investigations, unending persecutions, because Trump and Team were better than the career politicians and bureaucrats who care more about their positions and careers than the USA. It makes me SICK!
I wish PT (and Jared) would read your comment.
While it’s not uncommon for bosses, workers and volunteers etc. to be under appreciated and unjustly criticized at times despite their extra efforts and sacrifices; what P Trump and his loyal family and admin people had to deal with might never be equaled again anywhere. Most would have quit or folded under the pressure long ago.
Their perseverance and ability to carry on and do great work was extraordinary.
I highly recommend the book. Jared is an interesting guy in his own right given his own family (grandson of holocaust survivors) but what he accomplished through perseverance and brilliance was absolutely amazing. I doubt he or his team will ever get all the appreciation they deserve for the extraoridanary and unconventional diplomacy. In fact, it was acknowledged that if he had been a product of the think tanks he would never have accomplished what he did. We were so lucky these people went to DC – we were in good hands. Now we are not.
Thanks for the recommendation. I heard Jared on the radio last week talking to either Hannity or the 2 guys during Rush’s time slot. Gave a good interview. I’ll pick up the book this week. Again appreciate your thoughts.
Bill Barr has likely been shunned by the DC laywer tribe….and by his benefactors, the Bushies.
One part of this that I don’t get:
Mueller was supposedly interviewed by PDJT for the head of FBI
one day before he was appointed head of the special counsel.
The story goes that Mueller was not hired, and turned around and took the SC job.
Was PDJT really that naive? Did he think that Mueller was a legit candidate?
If not, why did PDJT let him in the door?
Mueller is obviously a deep state crook.
Was PDJT trying to turn Mueller? And get ahead of the game?
Because he knew the SC appointment was coming?
He was playing with fire, and I guess the circumstances called for drastic measures.
But to ostensibly hire Mueller, on its face, seems desperate in hindsight.
Edit: Im gonna assume PDJT played the odds, and rolled the dice on the Mueller interview.
Maybe he thought he could draw a closer bead on what was going on?
We will never know what was said in that meeting
When (at what chronological point) did Mueller get that addled, that demented??
Remember how senile Mueller appeared when he was questioned?
Yes.
Which was the reason he was chosen by Obama and his commie friends at the DOJ and the FBI to head up that investigation! He could be led and controlled “easily”!
Plus Mueller was dirty to begin with. He let innocent people sit in prison for years. He and that attorney Weissmann.
He was that way when he started….
when he was arrested
Good questions. I have often wondered how Flynn was so naive to take that meeting with the FBI agents. With his intelligence bona fides, how did that happen? So much that we will never know.
The Flynn FBI interview fiasco is another one that makes no sense.
Good job bringing that up.
How/Why did Flynn think it was a good idea to do that?
Yep, we will never know.
Yep, made no sense.
Of Course it made sense. Flynn was the piece that had to be removed from the chessboard. Flynn was loyal and competent and well respected in the IC and Military. His removal stripped Trump of his most abel advisor and defender and it sent a message to others like Kelly/Mattis and others that they should stay neutral or hostile in the insurrection.
This is an argument that is brought up, mostly by conservatives. Its nonsense.
You can’t have the National Security Director of the US not take a meeting with the head of counter intelligence of the FBI (Peter Strzok). Flynn made the assumption that the loyalty to the country would trump any political difference. Instead, he was arrested under the auspices of a 220+ year old law that’s probably unconstitutional called the Logan act. This was essentially a bold declaration by the leadership of the FBI that they would not work with the Trump administration, that they were perfectly willing to use the law as their own personal cudgel to play politics and that they didn’t care if it put the country at risk.
This is one the reasons I don’t like to give Trump a carte blanche pass. If he had taken a half an hour to investigate what was going on, he could have immediately fired both Strzok and Comey. Instead, Flynn was fired and Trump’s admin sent a message that they could get bullied.
One last thing. Barr is the one that deliberately killed the investigation into the USPS truck driver that testified to bringing a trailer full of completed ballots from NY to PA. Any contempt he has dumped on him, he deserves and more.
That’s the one, and now, Who is going to do anything about that fat sanctimonious bag pipper ?
“Flynn made the assumption that the loyalty to the country would trump any political difference.”
With all due respect, you cannot possibly know what Flynn was thinking and if he did make that “assumption” he was a fool and proved the ass u me saying. Flynn wasn’t just anyone plucked from intelligence. He was a seasoned veteran who just barely survived the obama purge. He knew who the bad actors were or was blind or turned a blind eye or was too cocky in his new digs???? IDK, but I still contend it was foolish to take this meeting ALONE with the three of them.
Remember they said they let Flynn go because he lied to Pence? Pence!
Absolutely. Knew then that Pence was working against Trump. Too bad Trump didn’t realize it.
PENCE!
“The Male With No Integrity.©️”!
PENCE!
He didn’t lie. They tripped him up With something like the wrong date or something. A trick they’ve used on all those other people like Pappadopolous. Plus they led him to believe that the meeting was very casual, a conversation.
With the benefit of hindsight you say “Flynn was a fool.” Go back to 2017. Nobody – and I mean nobody – knew how utterly corrupt and out of control the 4th branch of government had become. In Flynn’s mind (and everyone else) he’s in the catbird seat. He works for the President of the United States, Peter Strzok and all the other FBI agents are his underlings. He’s taking a meeting with someone who should not only respect but fear him and the new president.
Nobody expected what had only occurred in works of fiction to occur in real life.
General Flynn made the same mistake we all made: That the people on the other side are playing by the same rules we do. An honest man expected others to be honest. What a grave miscalculation that was.
Nonsense. If Flynn, being a super spook, spending his career in the swamp, didn’t know who the bad actors were, than he was more than a fool.
FYI, Not hindsight. I said the same thing at the time. Much like Trump’s COVID response in lifting regs and shuttering the country. I wrote him on the very day he did it. You don’t remove freedoms fron your people and grant pharma carte blanch. Fatal blow to him, but more importantly to us, our Republic and freedom. We will never recover.
ACTUALLY- if you recall, Flynn did nothing wrong but the Deep State managed to panic the Trump Administration and tricked President Trump into firing Flynn on completely fraudulent grounds.
No one said he did anything wrong. That’s the point. Flynn allowed the set up and Trump caved to Pence.
The Michael Flynn affair is the most perplexing of all…it also was the death knell of the Trump Presidency.. even before it started.
By not having Flynn’s back, Trump exuded weakness and the Deep State ran all-over him for the next two and half years.. which was followed by the Vindman treachery and then the epic collapse in March 2020 when Trump inflicted upon himself and America the worst decision of his Presidency.
I just came across an interview posted on the Brownstone Institute website that has a very long interview by Dr.Paul E Alexander who was a part of the Trump administration during the first 3 fateful months of the Covid Paranoia . He was essentially forced out of the job for speaking up against that evil murderer Fauci.. with Trump being utterly powerless to do anything about it.. reminded me of the unfair way in which Flynn was taken out and destroyed
Agree. Trump should have thrown Pence to the curb. In any battle you need a general, not a stunt man. While there were many blows to Trump, Flynn was the mortal wound. His general was removed.
OTOH, I was never convinced that Flynn didn’t play some role.
Flynn should have known better. Comey still brags about calling Flynn and saying, “Can we send a couple of guys over”?
Lawyers are necessary because of the way the system is set up. Laws are perpetually created such that “Lawyers” will be perpetually employed. Case closed.
I’m confused
Trump almost certainly knew Mueller would be hired as special counsel when he gave that interview.
It’s clear Trump liked getting an up-and-close personal with many of his biggest enemies. Remember interviewing Romney for SOS? I think it was Trump’s way of sizing his opponents up.
yes, I’ll buy that.
Read Bari Weiss’s interview with Bondo Barr:
https://www.commonsense.news/p/bill-barr-calls-bullsht?triedSigningIn=true
Look, it’s very simple, they lied.
And Trump and Flynn bought the lies?
Not very savvy of them.
Id think both those guys have been around the block
enough to spot the bullsheet
Exactly. Something never quite fit with those turn of events and then, enter the “offended” VP Pence. It stunk to high heaven of a set up and I was never convinced Flynn wasn’t in on it. IDK
That was a ruse. Rosenstein set the meeting up using the pretext of Mueller interviewing for FBI director Mueller could size him up…and then conveniently “forgot” his cell phone, having to come back later to retrieve it. I’m absolutely sure he had a recorder running.
IIRC it was stated that actually Mueller could not hold the FBI director’s job again, as he had previously held that position (or some equivalent issue that made this appointment impossible). At the time, there was ‘alternative’ speculation as to what the intent of this meeting actually was….???
mueller was not running the witch hunt. He was just a front man for the deep state establishment!
4D chess is an exercise in post fact rationalization: “Surely nobody is that (stupid/naive/corrupt); there must be a plan, a method to the madness.”
No, there isn’t.
President Trump was, for all his skill and knowledge and talents, a complete neophyte. He knew very little about the way Washington, DC really works, believing like most of us the “Schoolhouse Rock” version of how things should be. He was betrayed at every turn by people who were supposed to be on his side: His closest advisors, leaders of his own party in Congress.
I’m sure when he took the meeting with Rob Rosenstein and Robert Mueller he did so with the understanding he was speaking with honest brokers. Good guys who support the Constitution and are therefore loyal to the duly elected president, who fully understand how badly James Comey had abused his position and wanted to help him set things right. It probably never entered his mind for a moment that HIS deputy AG, and a highly respected former Director of the FBI, that he was the frog, and they the scorpions.
A real tragedy for America.
Hi All,
Here is what I have been pondering for a long while now.
So the narrative is supposedly Trump colluded with Russia and that resulted in all these ridiculous investigations.
Maybe it’s just me, but WHERE is it ever stated WHAT he was colluding about? Is there any material stating what the supposed threat was?
What is it they thought Trump was trying to accomplish via this make believe collusion with Russia?
The accusations of collusion are there, but there is never anything thought out further! Where’s that story?
What was the supposed goal of Trump to have engaged in this (false) collusion?
Anyone?
The assumption is that PDJT would benefit financially, through hotel deals,
and politically through propaganda/troll farms promoting PDJT and crapping in Clinton.
Libtards also assumed that a weakening of NATO and “our democracy” was in play
so that the two dictators could rule the world.
That’s my understanding.
Of course, there was zero evidence of any collusion.
Ask a libtard and you’ll get a different answer, though
Thank you BoBo!
All utterly ridiculous on the part of the DS actors. All nonsense projections and suppositions on their part that Trump was interested in those things! Making it up as they tried to justify their unlawful behavior.
Trump doesn’t need to benefit financially. If he was driven by finance he would have accepted his earned salary of being President! As we all know he donated that salary. So that washes their theory down the drain of benefitting financially.
In my estimation, Putin would be the last person Trump would ever align himself with to rule the world. So their absurd reasoning on that point makes no sense! Where is their proof?
Also, do not see Trump as interested in that role at all. He only wants to save America for future generations. The man could have remained a private citizen. His love of country was what drove him into public life.
But if the DS wants to ruin someone they have no holds barred to do so. They really think we are so dumb as to believe their narrative.
These people behind all of this targeting of Trump nonsense are cowards, weak, corrupt, and inherently evil!
But that’s just my take 🙂
You’re an okay type of person. May God bless you.
Brennon briefed Obama that Hillary make up the Russian collusion story, yet the Dems think it is Gospel truth.
The evil in Brennon’s eyes are telling.
Remember that the SELECT SENATE COMMITTE OF INTEL (RICHARD BURR) was having their own investigation
of Trump Collusion! Sometime after the close of Special Counsal’s Investigation———They closed
the SSCI WITH THE STATEMENT (words sim) “There WAS EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION” BUT THEY COULD NOT
FIND THE EVIDENCE”!!! Richare Burr promptly entered his retirement!
You are so right mouse! I never heard what was President Trump supposed to be colluding with the Russians about?? What a joke.
https://truthsocial.com/users/gatewaypundit/statuses/108897700211670237
In June 2018 Dr. Angelo Codevilla, author wrote an article called “President Trump’s September Surprise” wherein Codevilla supplied Trump a speech he should give to win the mid terms for his cause and end the impeachment madness and defeat the Deep State to boot. Besides being a brilliant speech, Codevilla supplied the simple thing Trump needed to do then to completely destroy the Democrats plans to destroy him. Give the people the truth. Here is a link to the article. Read it and imagine how things would be different if he had done this instead of spending the next two years promising to do this, but never delivering on the promise. Trump never understood the need for genuine patriotic serious advisors, who understood the enemy and who had the brain power and the loyalty to help him win the war. If he runs again, he better do a far better job of picking his generals than he did when he chose William Barr, Mike Pence, Reince Preibus and Christopher Wray. Read this speech and you will know what kind of leadership we need to have a chance against these evil communists.
president-trumps-september-surprise
Codevilla’s article is excellent – I wonder if it ever made it to President Trump.
I think these ruthless and evil people would not have responded “well” to this speech and most certainly would have done everything in their power, AT THE LEAST, to undermine the President’s directives and/or refuse to perform the requested actions.
I think we would have seen a very, very grave response from the swamp creatures.
The fact that Codevilla’s article would have to make its ways through layers of leftist advisors who Trump chose to have on his staff tells you the key reason why Trump is in this mess.
I disagree. You do not telegraph your punches. You simply do it.
But didn’t Trump declassify many, if not all, classified documents and each department responsible for doing that refused to do it? Wasn’t that the problem – that all the minions responsible for declassifying after the order simply refused to do it and nobody did anything about it?
James———–You must remember that ANY PERSON SELECTED BY DJT——-MUST BE APPROVED BY THE
SELECT SENATE COM. of INTEL————THEREIN IS THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!
Bravo, Sundance. This is a tour de force explanation of the history of how our chief law enforcement officers have shielded themselves from accountability while maintaining this cloud of suspicion around our first and only citizen politician to hold the highest office in the land. Spectacularly devious and grotesquely despicable.
Now we need another tour de force explanation of how to overcome the altogether unholy, nee criminal, mafia organization that our federal law enforcement agencies have devolved into.
It also explains why the deep state, FBI and DOJ particularly, were complicit in the election theft. No way could they allow President Trump to expose them in his second term. Notice no investigations of election theft, interstate transportation of ballots, etc.. even though the evidence is front and center.
“POTUS then would have to fire, replace and hope the next person in the chain-of-command would sign-off.”
That cannot possibly be the process when the President himself is the subject of a criminal investigation – or impeachment- and the classified documents contain exculpatory material. Public disclosure far outweighs any claimed need for secrecy a bureaucrat might conjure up.
And this is where the corruption and failures of the IGs, or the absence of IGs comes into play.
The circle of the investigators, investigating themselves, is maddening.
How can we trust our highest forms of oversight, when they themselves are compromised?
SSCI, HPSCI, these are the worst of the worst.
Please, tell me if a sitting president can reclassify documents already declassified by a former president, thank you.
Not if it is widely disseminated. For example, you couldn’t classify a story in the NYT because you can never put the toothpaste back in the tube. But if it was declassified by PDJT for example, but never disseminated publicly, I don’t see any reason why it couldn’t be reclassified. You would need to notify the document holder, of course.
That is why Trump should have done exactly what Dr. Angelo Codevilla recommended in 2018 in his article, “Trump’s September Surprise”. If he had done this, we the people would have had all the information two years before the 2020 elections and the Deep State could not have undone it.
president-trumps-september-surprise
Thank you all; I understand that if the DOJ finds some documents till are not known to the public, they could be reclassified.
Unbelievable
Barr is a POS traitor and remember he is friends with Mueller.
Why didnt Trump know that?
Bottom line: Its a big c̶l̶u̶b̶ CABAL and Trump wasnt in it nor allowed to be in it
Because, as Sundance and now many others are now saying, journos like Molly Hemingway, “Americans are not allowed to choose someone they [the Elites runnin’ the Show–DONORS, Corporate America] disapprove of. They are only allowed to choose candidates that have been given approvall to win.”
The President has the power to choose his team. He is the head of the Executive Branch.
I think we all know DT tried to work within the system in hopes that positive results would win it over. Rush L was no fool and he had one major head scratch regarding Trump. That is my characterization of it.
Limbaugh would tell the story several months into 2017 he golfed with DT (I think). Regardless he ask him what has been your biggest surprise since getting to DC? DT replied I’m surprised the others haven’t gotten behind me yet. Rush told that story multiple times.
I believe both RL & DT. And well now we all know why. Never trusted the left anyway. They are being guided by the vision of destruction. They can’t stop; they can never stop!!
The FBI warned Zuckerberg about a pending Russian propaganda dump. The laptop drops and Zuckerberg assumes that’s the dump? And 50 former spooks sign off on it being a Russian ruse, giving Zuckerberg cover? But the FBI knew at the time the laptop was genuine. So, the FBI certainly could not be referring to the laptop. Tell us, FBI, if it wasn’t the laptop, what exactly did the Russians do to spread falsehoods leading up to the 2020 election. Please FBI, tell the whole class what exactly those pesky Russians did to interfere in our most sacred rite.
A Farcebook ad swayed the 2016 election but 2000 mules were irrelevant in 2020.
Maybe too many want nothing more than to continue to have all their sins approved of and glorified regardless of the consequences–so they continue to vote left?
It’s what you get when you put Christopher Wray in charge of law enforcement.
Facebook is a government surveillance op as is Twitter. Here are some key data points.
DARPA LifeLog=Facebook. Peter Thiel gave millions in seed money to ZuckerSucker for his startup of FB. Thiel goes on to found Palantir. LifeLog ends the same day that Facebook begins. FB begins their data collection of everyone using it. This data is shared. Guess who the largest user of the data is? The Admin State bureaus. Palantir scoops data for the Pentagroin and others in the Admin State. Twitter does the same. Now we know why FB, Twitter etc. are never held to account for violations of Sherman Clayton or 15 USC, as they are a “public-private” partnership. Expecting Zuckersucker not to do what his boss tells him is a false expectation. Now you also know why Twitter execs had a melt down when Musk asked for their bot usage.
Stay off social media. Quit putting your life on line. Quit using your “smart” phone. If you must, use a Faraday bag as much as possible, and limit your use of the phone. Use a good VPN and a fully encrypted text and e mail e mail system. Protonmail, Tutanota, Briar are a few. Even so, be wary of what you say and what you put in the subject line-metadata.
Every one of these social media aps or devices are a way to find patterns of life and associations, and to track where you’ve been and where you go. If the political prisoners of 06Jan had not organized on FB and Twitter, and left their cells phones at home, many would likely not be in jail. As the raid on Mar a Lago proves, the rule of law is dead and you are a target, especially if you go against the Admin State or have the wrong political views. Don’t be an easy one.
He may have to do what the enemy always does: LEAK, LEAK, LEAK.
There are copies of those docs.
Who in the hell knows just who has copies.
It would be wrong to think only Trump or people “related” to Trump have copies.
Things are stolen.
Whistleblowers afraid to speak out might have managed to get parts of these things.
So, when they leak, who can say from whom they came. Right?
I know this: we will NEVER let the facts of what is in those docs be lost or forgotten.
They will OUT!
They must be outted.
People must be unmasked.
America must be restored.
You have an entire nation who no longer believes in truth and justice because they know they have crooks and cons on the Hill and everywhere around the Hill, in every important bureau and at the tip top of those bureaus.
They are NOT PETTY criminals.
They are treasonous bastards.
Even Dems “get it.”
PDJT could have, and should have, declassified all of it anytime between Jan 19, 2021 and the raid. It would have been met with outrage and a legal fight, but easily winnable.
And yet here we are again, in a stand-off with a wholly corrupt justice system. Not just Trump, all of us.
Trump is getting shoddy legal advice and is either acquiescing or not willing to put up the good fight.
Correction: Meant to say he could have, should have ***released all of it***….
After reading so many comments and articles I believe PDT has a ghost writer working on a book to be published by PDT with all the crazy lies exposed and by whom exposed them. They are afraid and maybe already know it is happening. So they at least want to know what will be in the book so they can either try to stop the publishing or make up crimes so they can incarcerate him. I wouldn’t be surprised if the author is working over seas…maybe even Russia!
Why do you say easily winnable. Courts won’t even force a release of his search warrant.
You are on the right track.
The overriding question to me is “what Constitutional authority do Departments in the Executive Branch that Sundance has identified that are Constitutionally subordinate to the Chief Executive have to deny a President his Constitutional right to declassified documents”? I understand that previous Presidents have requested Departmental imput to their decision in the past but what statute gives the Department the right to deny declassification? And has this statute, if it exists,ever undergone Judicial review? It all seems to me to be more beaurocratic assertion of independence and carving out unenumerated territory for itself. The President answers to the people via their representatives through impeachment should the Chief Executive exceed his powers. Limiting his power to exact change using one of his Departments is just as bad, if not worse, than misusing them.
I have been thinking about this for days, and was going to post what Rowdyne has said, I would add that the “twin” swords of Impeachment and a criminal Obstruction was a trap no one could get out from. Buuuuuut, now he can’t be impeached, as he is no longer President, so only the Obstruction process sword remains. Buuut he can now go up to the Supreme Court on his absolute Authority to declassify, and any delegation can be taken back as is his exclusive right. He had his directions to the Whitehouse Council’s office – but he was knifed in the back there too – they didn’t do the paperwork!!!! Still, his order is lawful. He won’t release any docs – but he will defend himself in public (DOJ even ruled his pulic statements were not obstruction. So, it will come down to The Supreme Court – they will by their actions destroy the country, or save it with their ruling.
Many, many, many of these departments need to be closed and defunded.
The President has the sole power to declassify and NOBODY can stop him from doing it. Further, he has the power to have the documents published on a government website.
My question as well.
Our corrupt legal system and equally corrupt politicians will keep PDJT tied up in the courts until another Dem is installed in the White House after the 2024 election.
I do not see any way we as a country can survive this illegal onslaught.
SAD.
When it’s no longer possible to use the election process to change the direction of the country then we’re outside the Constitution — that’s the most powerful and direct method provided there. Which means we’re in Declaration territory.
Read the first couple of paragraphs. That’s where we are if elections no longer work. We might not like this, no sane person would chose it but the framers anticipated it. indeed I don’t think they’d eve be surprised.
direct and to the point – I like it
He should have fired every single political appointee in every cabinet department in February 2017 as I suggested at the time. There was more than enough evidence, even in December and January, that there would be multiple coup attempts.
Bill Kristol, faux conservative, said months before Trump won that impeaching and removing Trump was the next step. So it’s not like we all didn’t see this coming.
Trump was WRONG not to see DC for what it is. He was WRONG not to decapitate the bureaucracy. It’s going to be 1,000,000x worse next time if he doesn’t learn from this.
You DO understand that getting rid of the guy or woman at the top of a bureaucracy rarely, if ever, changes the way that bureaucracy behaves.
It’s the federal government, a “nation” in and of itself, the very thing our Framers didn’t want.
Trump is a business man and should have understood. Big Old companies get wasteful outside auditors referred to as hatchet men are often brought in. Why well because of what you said. Yes the next in line is usually groomed to be the same sometimes layers down and whole departments. Hence the slang hatchet men. They fire cut retire eliminate their way to what works.
Trumps line of attack and any future possible line should be two pronged.
1. Very liberal firing policy. The first sign of refusing, slow walking, or resistance to agenda should mean immediate termination. No appointee approval for outsiders fine fire down to it. Appointees or fresh leadership is pushed to mimic policy across department.
2.Full Federal government audit minus mil. Bring in the hatchet men to gut programs, departments, waste, corruption, etc… Hell you could pull the latest porkbusters readout and pickup billions in the first month while having fun humiliating the gov in press to the people while justifying more and the firings. Kill the establishments money supply which comes from mainly gov corruption waste.
All actions should be openly told, explained, justified to the real boss i.e. American people in regular addresses to the people.
He will need help from a pro-American Senate Majority Leader. He cannot have that until the people of Kentucky decide to join the Union.
Many of Obama’s political appointees transferred into career positions “burrowing” throughout the bureaucracy so they wouldn’t be detected and couldn’t be fired.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/27/78-obama-appointees-burrowed-career-jobs-watchdog-/
Pick the date Obama came into office and anybody hired after that date must leave.
From Sundance’s post yesterday. “Three Minutes of Pure Sunlight, The Truth and The Constitution are President Trump’s Weapons”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/26/three-minutes-of-pure-sunlight-the-truth-and-the-constitution-are-president-trumps-weapons/
Sundance, from that post:
CTH knows part of what is in those boxes being discussed because CTH assembled a 4-year, 600-page, brief pointing directly to the location of the agency silos that contained the documents. Essentially a roadmap and specific index showing where the documents are, what they are titled, who is the agency holding them and how it is all connected.
Copies of that brief were distributed to ensure a very visible record was always known. The truth has no agenda. Yes, you followed that effort, and I can tell from the activity of the stakeholders discussed, that evidence is a part of the trail Main Justice is trying to quash…. but it’s too late.
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Pay attention to the last four words: but it’s too late.
That’s telling. Sundance knows it’s coming out.
It should have come out in 2018 when it was promised and it would have saved us the last four years of destruction of our country.
It just never ends. And a win for the good guys is always just out of reach, only a couple weeks away, just over the hill. It’s sickening. Sometimes I wish PDJT would just release everything. Let the chips fall where they may. The substance in the documents should overwhelm the form of his disclosure. Just effing do it. Cause this sure ain’t working.
OK so the 19 Jan memo is in reference to a “binder” containing some classified info re Crossfire Hurricane, which was vetted and POTUS agreed to certain redactions. There apparently were also privacy act concerns which the 20 Jan memo addressed as not applicable, so the binder appears to have been de-classified. But I haven’t seen anything about the location of that “binder” and how, if at all, it is related to the material found in the purported “15 boxes” previously delivered to NARA, nor anything removed during the FBI raid. I note also in the EO on national security classification, that a former president is deemed to be be authorized “access” by virtue of his position, also is an “authorized holder”. So it seems like we are down to an administrative determination if classified material was stored IAW applicable regulations. If there is stuff marked TS-SCI probably not, but I don’t see any recourse if it wasn’t stored properly.
Note that this discussion is about “national security information”. There has been no discussion, except speculation in the MSM, about nuclear weapon “secrets” which are covered separately under the Atomic Energy Act as “restricted data”. That’s the stuff that got the Rosenbergs in trouble.
The bottom line here is that “Durham,” if there is such a person, will be “investigating something” until the end of time.
Sometimes maybe we should ask ourselves what would the Dems do. One of the biggest failures of Conservatives is they must play by the rules in the system. Dems believe they are fighting a revolution so breaking of the rules was baked in. The dems by hook or crook or just to hell with the rules in your face would have released everything and anything they thought would help with it.
The system we live in in todays america has been conquered the revolution happened we LOST. The only way to counter it is outside the system and its rules. Nothing of consequence will ever be won in a court or within the system with todays system. We had 16 years of Bush Obama and another 12 years of Bush Clinton before that, it reshaped the cores of our nation. That is 28yrs of political appointees beholden to the establishment. Until you fire into fresh virgin blood from the ranks or get outsiders appointed the system is hopeless. All action plans should be done from that perspective. Slow firing doesn’t work either because corruption is deep even the newly appointed new blood allowed to progress up would be corrupt approved.
The declassification problem for Trump was real and yes its gray law that he very well could have CAN BE prosecuted on. But playing by the rules got him what? More attacks. His agenda neutered and biggest most in your face stolen corrupted election outside the banana republics. Trump as pres could have made a public statement declassifying the documents and just released them in whole across multiple sources. Yes he would have been prosecuted maybe impeached, but with public opinion in uproar how hard could have they really pressed that? Or he could have just done a Dem move and leaked it letting low ranks take the judicial hit, he could have pardoned later.
If we are to take our nation back it will be by the people NOT working in the system. Trump was a rallier of the people. Rallying the people and releasing the proof of the abuse corruption broken system would have been and been seen by many as a whistleblower type action justified even if illegal. That would have been his protection the people America.
A civil war is not the answer even tho the path we are on will eventually lead there when the pain becomes enough across gen pop. Civil war is a horror it would be like Syria and probably end doubtfully like anything we would recognize as America.
Look to the Dems Revolution mindset in the system bloodless revolution. The system is the enemy playing by its rules is only an option when to our advantage, useless otherwise and rules will have to be broken. It requires leaders in positions of power that are willing to do whatever it takes to win and using the public sphere public opinion as top cover to both maximize effect and defend against consequences from the system.
So PDJT should just come out as the ultimate whistleblower
Dirty Bob “forgot” and left his cellphone behind. He was wiretapping the President.
Stinking criminals.
where IS wikileaks when you need a good falsifiable set of official records (classified or not) that goes viral faster than you can say
treason
?
Let’s not forget, that THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF WIKILEAKS IS
STEAL DOCUMENTS AND PUBLISH THEM
PUBLISH STATE SECRETS THAT ARE CLASSIFIED, PROTECTED, EMBRARASSING AND EVEN CRIMINAL IN NATURE.
Where IS WIKILEAKS>
I can tell you ONE THING…It would be a great deal MORE INVOLVED AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME IF PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD PARDONED HIM!!!
I said it.
I know this isn’t popular, so I will refrain from barking up that tree again.
The bigger point here is at some point, out of self preservation, President Trump has got to realize that a nuclear option is the only way for him to defend against what is coming.
We can acknowledge swords of damocles, but for each has a solution.
you leak it out.
LEAK
IT
OUT
everyone will publish it.
EVERYONE.
IF the material records are falsibiable…check
IF the material is sufficiently impactful and persuasive and proves a criminal conspiracy occured…check..(I think??? I really don’t have any idea WHAT these thus far non released declassified/re-re-classified documents can prove ?
If President Trump and his team can have the confidence that the leak of these materials will defend him against the ongoing criminal conspiracy AND COUP, it’s pretty clear to me what needs to be done. LEAK THEM.
GET THEM OUT ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN.
Yes, the DOJ will go after him for “obstruction”.
we have been through this before in impeachment #1 and #2….if the predicate fails, there can be no obstruction. POTUS wields enormous constitutional powers. process or not. Agencies principles in a agreement or not.
Think of it this way: the DOJ/FBI and the corrupt central state is going to indict, try and convict President Trump..and falling short, they WILL prevent him from becoming President. There can be no confusion on that guarantee. There is no wishing this way. This is WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
and from that predictable inevitable outcome, President Trump must realize there is only two ways this criminality is solved and that he has leverage to throw back these scofflaws and scoundrels…
the question is: does the declassified material sufficiently falsifiable to prove a criminal conspiracy? Can it make a difference in the court of public opinion? How WILL THE PEOPLE respond when they see this evidence of a criminal conspiracy aimed at performing a coup?
who will explain it to them, what they cannot comprehend with their own lying eyes?
take a lesson from the Wikileaks era?
what changed?
name one single thing that changed?
who went to jail? Who got censured, fired, fined, penalized, voted out of office?
see the problem?
“we are asking the wrong people to solve these problems”
I said this from the very beginning. Ultimately, when you realize the scale of the problem…and consider it from a very recent development of our society.
no one really cares.
not enough to make a difference …
but the lesson of wikileaks is also this?
what would the world look like today without stolen secrets from corrupt states?
is it worth the effort and the sacrifice and the pain and the persecution to leak it out anyway, KNOWING that there IS a high probability that no one will care enough.
?
this is where the discussion of revolution is necessary. We see the patterns. We are dealing with immovable object meets unstoppable force. There are moments that occur in human history that ultimately result in revolution. These are moments when all legal, political, and process options fail.
when the entire system is so corrupt and broken and hoplessly lost to criminal activity and tyrant action.
this is revolution road. You can try and argue it away. You can even delay it by doing nothing.
but in the end, revolution happens because the tyrannt has no limits or bounds of the unchallenged power.
At some Point President Trump has to realize they are no going to allow him to have any power and he will be indicted, tried and convicted or espionage and or obstruction of justice.
there is NO GETTING AROUND THIS FACT. That it has not yet happened has caused so many people to believe he is safe.
HE IS NOT SAFE. THEY WILL TAKE HIM DOWN AND HARD.
When you realize this, political, legal, process options are no longer available…There is only that waiting for the final act, final scene…the waiting.
Or you start writing the book yourself. and publish this book and start acting like you realize that in order to save yourself, you must go on the offensive and even if that means taking on more risk, so be it.
now is not the time to wait and see what comes next.
MAKE WHAT COMES NEXT IN YOUR FAVOR!
DO that now.
It is the best play he has.
jmho
God Bless America
To sum it up: the instructions on how to get out of the box are on the outside of the box.
I’ll agree that Trump should have pardoned Assange and will go even further and say that his administration should never put Assange in prison in the first place! There were people like Mike Pompeo and of course every AG in the Trump administration who were chomping at the bit to put Assange behind bars. Trump should have fired them as soon as they started making noises to arrest Assange. Pompeo as head of the CIA wanted to assassinate Assange when he was in the Ecuadorian embassy. How the hell did people like Pompeo end up in the Trump administration?
I just find it hard to see PDJT as guilty of a “process crime” (i.e., “obstruction” via declas) when the process itself IS the crime.
I don’t think there is anything in those “15 boxes” that is not already known by CCP and Kremlin.
Why aren’t republicans screaming for a special prosecutor to investigate biden?
Republicans are happy with Biden. They’re raking in the money and they don’t have to take responsibility. What’s not to like?
My personal voting method: I vote against incumbents in every election regardless of party. The one exception is President Trump. There are perhaps five Congressmen who would also be exceptions but none of them are on my ballot.
I would like to believe that Republican majorities in both Houses would be good but I don’t actually think that’s true. The average Republican Congressman doesn’t care WHAT happens to America as long as he stays in the money.
I vote against the incumbent in every election.
Consistent with medical orders prior to GI CT scan & work up, the order for a like view of the insides of the Government would read:
“Enemas until clear.”
Remember, Honest people know the truth there is right and wrong. Those with Joe believe there is only good for needs for themselves!
Scrolling through list of donors I see $250,000 from Miriam Adelson – widow of Sheldon Adelson.
Trump gave Miriam the Medal of Freedom and he did everything that Sheldon Adelson asked of him short of nuking Ir@n (maybe she hopes Haley will get that job done).
At the behest of Sheldon Adelson, Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem, recognized the Golan Heights, allowed Jonathan Pollard to return to Isr@el on one of Adelson’s jets where he received a hero’s welcome, hired John Bolton etc. etc.
There is just no loyalty when it comes to certain people. I know some will say Adelson is just “hedging her bets” but after what Trump did for that family she should be ALL IN for Trump in 2024 and not giving a quarter million to that snake Nimrata Haley.
SORRY! WRONG THREAD
This was meant for the Nikki Haley thread
“Trump frequently made public statements and tweets about the frustration of documents not being declassified and released despite his instructions to do so. ”
I believe any one of us would have copied and pasted the docs into whitehouse.gov ourselves as president.
The continued whining over what did not happen makes Trump look like controlled opposition.
If one…just one (only one is needed as the lemmings would line up for the ratings) mainstream legacy media would print this article and supporting information President Trump would be vindicated, the corruption of Washington D.C. (hello schumer) would be exposed and some sort of cleansing (although one can pick up a turd by the clean end) could take place and the people would (might) vote against democrats in such massive numbers the midterm (s)elections could not be stolen without a yuge revolt…(end of fantasy ramble)….
The object of our trust is similar to a ping pong game….Sessions, no. Pompeo, no. Barr, no. Now we are left with Durham who continues to skirt around the real players with his investigation.
Sadly, the mere fact that the broader American public doesn’t now want to know the real facts behind our broken system–they’ll prefer to wait until all freedoms are gone to react.
Would it have been possible while Trump was still in office for him to have overridden the executive order dictating the process of getting approval from the various agencies holding interest in the docs? I don’t know too much about what executive orders a president can get rid of, but if it’s not an actual law, seems like he could have just changed the process since it’s still within executive authority. Also, it seems like Trump could have gone public with the info and said see you in court if you want to fight over it (which I still feel is an option and force the SC to look at the case since it would involve whether a presidents orders override any previous executive orders or any policies within executive branch– hell, they may not even touch if they feel its not something they can decide)
In the end, Trump was not part of the Uni Party…and therefore he had to be destroyed. They decided to battle, besmirch, fail him at every turn. Many Patriots understand this…not all.
They say the White Hats re doing all they can to not let this go to a Civil War, a good thing. The MSM continues to take on water, Covid is dead except for the 20% who will never think for themselves, people are tired of money being sent to Ukraine much more than they are mad at Russia, Russia, Russia, our economy flounders before it sinks, the market right behind it. May be we are at the point where you just let your opponent shoot himself in the foot!
When Trump started hitting home runs, the baby-killers said we were playing football….when Trump started scoring touchdowns, the baby-killers said we were playing basketball….that’s politics in Mordor-on-the-Potomac….
wow, these are some incredibly evil people.
Trump made big mistakes when he appointed people when he was President. Not surprising because of who he was surrounded by! It just get worse as time goes on. Hopefully the second term will be different. Trump now knows exactly what he is up against.
Sundance:
Beautiful work. What you are outlining is the deep state is running the country. To overcome this we need a president who can hit them with a punch from which they can never recover. Mitch told Trump early in his tenure that personnel is policy. Trump did not heed those words. Mitch may be a lot of things, and one of them is he is the best political operator in Washington. Do I think Trump would do much better in a second term – Yes. Not only do I think that, but the deep state thought that. So, they took him out. I suspect they believed they could not keep him at bay for another four years.
The raid on Mar-a-Lago proves the deep state is still running the country, and (unfortunately) Trump still cannot outmaneuver them. Have you ever heard of selective leaking? Trump could have selectively leaked those documents. Instead, he hesitated, and the DOJ outmaneuvered him…again.
Bill Barr was Chris Christie’s lawyer in BridgeGate. Bannon says Christie recommended Barr. Chris Christie does not want Trump for a second term, and is actively working against him. Christie and Pence have teamed up.
When Trump did not get rid of the Obama people, Mitch filled his administration with as many of his people as he could. Pence was helping. Indeed, Pence was a Paul Ryan guy to start with. There is one other glaring problem with Trump’s people – Ivanka and Jared are Democrats. Nobody had more influence on Trump than Ivanka and Jared. This is a problem that is not going away.
Again, I am waiting to see who spends their own money helping the most fantastic slate of MAGA candidates ever assembled. Will it be Trump or DeSantis? I have little hope MAGA grassroots will step up to the challenge. I’ve worked in too many campaigns. Very, very few donate. They simply complain, and do nothing.
Cheaters depend on the other side following the very rules they flout. In retrospect, President Trump should probably have been more aggressive against the machinations of the Small Group and their political patrons in Congress. He may not have appreciated it at the time, but he only had one chance and he frittered it away by taking the counsel of his fears (and the bad advice of people who pretended to be on his side but were working for the opposition).
Who was authorized to declassify after Barr left in 12/2019? Trump still had a month left in office. Did the authorization default back to our favorite President?
Amazing interview at:
Brownstone Institute
‘What i heard and saw. Dr Paul Alexander speaks’
Worth every minute to watch this-especially his last words
“D.C. is a place that will destroy you”
Oh dear, oh my!
This is exactly what Trump’s harshest critics, like Anne Coulter, don’t get.
The snake, the reptile Paul Ryan would not fund the border wall.
So you go to war with him, Donald Trump? No, he backed down.
Trump’s greatest fault was his unwillingness to take on these Washington insider bastards. From day one.
Rush Limbaugh met with Trump early on, and was horrified with Trump’s conviction that the Washington insiders would work with him. Even Reince Priebus, Trump’s early chief of staff, didn’t buy this.
I doubt, I strongly doubt that Donald Trump is capable of the character change to fight the endless battles with the scum who populate Washington.
Sundance,
Please tell me your writing a book?
History needs you to record all of this, onto paper, mass printed and into as many hands as humanly possible.
Work from the Constitution only President Trump! Forget working with this administration, because they don’t follow the Constitution. They work from the rules and laws of the old Soviet Union or that of the CCP!
Seems as if these Washington criminals are playing what has become known as the knock-out game, whereby someone is sucker punched, hoping to knock-out or cause death to the attacked victim.
That these people are trying to injure or cause death (assassination) to Donald Trump becomes clearer each time these things happen.
NEVER has this happened to another President. His terminators ALL seem to believe that it’s okay to do this to a human as long as his name is Trump.
These people (all of them) who keep covering for each other deserve a one-way trip to the Gallows!!
If You read Bush’s executive order Bush Executive Order 13292 on Classified National Security Information I believe Rosenstein’s threat might be valid ASSUMING that Bush’s executive order limiting the power of POTUS regarding classification was constitutional. IT is the only limit in Bush’s executive order on the power of POTUS to classify and declassify.
This s why Brandon might hesitate re-classifying what Trump declassified.
if you think about it Swoard of Damocles is hanging over the entire MAGA movement: if you don’t do anything, then you are a coward but if you protest against the system – you’ll be a domectic terrorist and “enemy of the people”. America has successfully entered Soviet Era
All the treasonous pretenders need to be in prison. Senior Executive Services member Bill Barr. Comey, who covered up Clinton crimes since Whitewater, can share a cell with Mueller. Oh, the list is long for the globalist enabling traitors!
Take a look at aim4truth.org. The Pilgrims Society and Senior Executive Services are behind most of the shenanigans going on. All of the alphabet agencies and the justice system have been compromised. It’s time to get rid of the globalist enabling traitors, restore the Republic, The Constitution and The Rule of Law. Patriots only!