If the search warrant affidavit was revealed to the public, the DOJ Lawfare tribe targeting Trump – within the DOJ National Security Division (DOJ-NSD), could not keep the benefit of selective leaks to their media stenographers. It would be more difficult to frame the narrative. [DOJ Filing pdf HERE]
On Thursday August 11th, Attorney General Merrick Garland said the justice department was committed to transparency in order to retain their integrity with the American public. On Monday August 15th, Attorney General Garland asked the court to keep the records sealed. The six-year pattern continues….
WASHINGTON DC – “If disclosed, the affidavit would serve as a roadmap to the government’s ongoing investigation, providing specific details about its direction and likely course, in a manner that is highly likely to compromise future investigative steps,” U.S. Attorney Juan Gonzalez and Justice Department counterintelligence chief Jay Bratt said in a filing urging the continued secrecy of the affidavit.
“The fact that this investigation implicates highly classified materials further underscores the need to protect the integrity of the investigation and exacerbates the potential for harm if information is disclosed to the public prematurely or improperly,” the DOJ officials wrote.
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“The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.” – Patrick Henry
“The only people who dont want to disclose the truth, are people with something to hide…” – Barack Obama, 2009
Well now, BHO would know his own statement well, since it applies 110% to him!
The DeepState FIB is so corrupt, they can no longer be trusted by USA Citizens. They must be disbanded ASAP.
It has been that way since Hoover days , and ain’t gonna change . . . ever.
good quote by a bad man
MAN you say, That thing is NOT a man! Liar is more accurate.
“The [freedom of the press] is the first shut up by those who fear the investigation of their actions.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Tyler, 1804
The NSD hides behind classification ALL. THE. TIME. And then it turns out to be just another abuse and more BS.
The first paragraph that Sundance includes is an argument every Prosecutor could make, in probably any criminal case.
Of COARSE discosing to any Defendant and their lawyer, the “States case” enables the Defendants lawyers to ascertain the prosecutions case, and use that info to mount a DEFENCE.
THATS a the whole idea of our Criminal Justice system, at least as concieved by our founders.
Its the reason for the Brady rule, for example.
Its the second paragraph Sundance included, that attempts to use Nstional Security to circumvent those foundational principles.
“Presumption of Innocence,” ..”right to confront your accusers in open court” “burden of proof” etc. all thrown out the window becausevof Natl. Security.
Rather than comparing this to muh Russia, or the Impeachments, I think the most accurate comparison would be to say they are attempting to “Flynn” PDJT.
It most resembles the lawfare used against Gen Flynn, and I hope PDJT gives Sydney Powell a call, I suspect her council may be of benefit.
More fake news….
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NEW: According to a DOJ official, the FBI is NOT in possession of former President Trump’s passports.
“If disclosed, the affidavit would serve as a roadmap to the government’s ongoing investigation, providing specific details about its direction and likely course, in a manner that is highly likely to compromise future investigative steps,” U.S. Attorney Juan Gonzalez and Justice Department counterintelligence chief Jay Bratt said in a filing urging the continued secrecy of the affidavit.
For decades, the American Public has seen the roadmap of lawlessness committed by the FBI and DOJ. The FBI definitely needs to be eliminated, not reformed because it can’t be reformed.
FBI at birth was the heir to Woodrow Wilson’s high handed DoJ of illegal methods.
So even if they do release it, after redactions all you’ll know is date and place.
Yes, they request that the judge could review the redaction proposals and then state that most all of it would be redacted…grand jury dontchya know…
Posobiec posted many parts of Tucker’s monologue tonight- all about the power grab by the DOJ and the Mar a Lago raid. Each tweet with a clip of his speech got banned on Twitter… We need to find that monologue and spread it far and wide.
He reposted a couple again
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/update-doj-says-passports-belonging-trump-seized-fbi-mar-lago-raid-returned/
Sneaks, thieves and posers.
Every season comes to an end.
FBI, your days are numbered in my opinion.
Don’t forget the enablers through propaganda . . .
sneaky little cr@p weasels like THIS guy.
Eisenhower warned us about Baier, the Tweedle-Dum mouthpiece for the Tweedle-Dee/Tweedle-Dum Industrial Complex.
Nah, the FIB will outlive all of us. No matter how much we want to make ourselves feel better by saying things like this.
As King Charles said to Parliament during his trial, “under what authority do you convene this trial?” Of course, political power came from the barrel of a gun for Mao, Lenin and Cromwell.
Perhaps we should remember that America was involved in the overthrow of a Monarchy more than once. Was it three or four New England Puritan Colonists who signed the execution of the King of England, the regicides who hid in New Haven from King Charles II after the Restoration?
RAID GARLAND AND WRAYS OFFICE, AND THE ENTIRE UPPER LEVELS. USE THE MARSHALLS, AND FIND ERIC PRINCE, SURE HE HAS A FEW EXCELLENT PEOPLE HE COULD SUPPLY
The affidavit must be highly embarrassing to DOJ.
Just need one leaker. Just one.
Saw this…we need to make this all stop.
Just don’t try to use your birthright……they will get you for it if you try.
Dershowitz, on Newsmax tonight, made the point that Trump and his lawyers want the affidavit released, and DOJ is arguing against it, and his experience says the party trying to make it public is the one who has done nothing wrong.
Well, duh.
Can President Trump do anything to get the affidavit unsealed?
He can wait for the charges. Right now it is still an investigation, not a case.
It’s nearly unheard of to unseal such affidavits BEFORE an investigation subject is charged with any crimes. That is true for ANY criminal case, let alone one where investigators are claiming “national security”. For one thing, the “mole” would be named, and that puts that person at obvious risk.
AFTER being charged, Team Trump has a better chance if they want to make it public, but they would still have to justify doing it against potential security breach risks.
Both sides can make arguments and requests, but it’s ultimately up to the judges assigned to the case.
What is this illegitimate, corrupt government trying to hide? If it is legitimate then why hide it?
Appeal? Demand a recusal? Dunno.
Justice Thomas is assigned to the 11th Circuit (includes FL, AL,GA) and would hear the appeal of the motion if referred.
I’m so sick of the completely corrupt FBI / DOJ ignoring glaring crimes that definitely impact the security of the USA. If you are a democrat, you can keep an illegal computer server that was hacked by every intel agency in the world, both friend and foe, you can get bribes and sweetheart deals from our enemies, you can try to carry out a somewhat bloodless coup on a sitting and fairly elected president, you can with the presidency by cheating your ass off (and everybody with a brain KNOWS it) and the FBI does NOTHING. Do the right thing for our country (MAGA) and do more good than all the presidents of this and the last century while be being persecuted by your own government and you become enemy number 1 to our DOJ. Support this president (45) and you end up in the DOJ’s gulag, where you are tortured, denied your civil rights and charged with lies and are sentenced by criminals. This corruption must be stopped NOW and heads have to roll.
They’re not just ignoring crimes.
They’re committing them.
FBI SOURCES: Grimm Brothers
FBI METHODS: Fairy Tales
(no secrets, no coincidences)
all of DoJ is a criminal division…
Banana Government. These guys are a phony government.
Wonder what their kids and spouses feel like when people learn their mom or dad are with the fascists?
The kids and spouses only associate with other fascists.
I believe the intent of the raid and sealing the affidavit is to stir up PDJT supporters. As the first article suggests, PDJT is concerned about the “temperature”. Per the second article, the FBI is doubling down and suggesting that Trump supporters are threatening violence. Violence is what they want and if they can’t nudge Trump supporters into doing what they want, a false flag operation will be coming.
Trump says he wants to lower ‘temperature’ after Mar-a-Lago raided by FBI
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-he-wants-to-lower-temperature-after-mar-a-lago-raided-by-fbi/ar-AA10GAIt
Latest FBI Bullsh*t: Trump Supporters Are Threatening to Set Off a Dirty Bomb Over Mar-a-Lago Raid
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/latest-fbi-bullsht-trump-supporters-threatening-set-off-dirty-bomb-mar-lago-raid/
the dirty bomb theme apparently means they’ve given up or at least delayed the space aliens theme…
Don’t fall for the “Bad Guys” trap.
“Trump supporters”:
“If it weren’t for False Flags, they’d have no flags at all.”
Well the “crack” FBI and DOJ chose to ignore the person who planted bombs at the Washington DC offices of the Democrat Party and the Republican Party on Jan 5,2021. Why do you suppose that is? Did the FBI plant the bombs?
We know the FBI hatched the Gretchen Wittmer kidnapping plot and were major participants.
Can we trust the FBI and DOJ, hell no. They have lied for many years and so
have zero credibility. They apparently love the tactics of despots, the Stasi, the KGB, the Storm Troopers, because those are the people they emulate.
Like Operation: Warp Speed, I’ll have to disagree with our President here. I don’t want to lower the temperature; I want to raise it.
Frederick Douglass:
“If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
For it is not light that is needed, but fire; it is not the gentle shower, but thunder. We need the storm, the whirlwind, and the earthquake. The feeling in the nation must be quickened, the conscience of the nation must be roused, the propriety of the nation must be startled, the hypocrisy of the nation must be exposed: and its crimes against God and man must be denounced.
Power and those in control concede nothing … without a demand. They never have and never will… Each and every one of us must keep demanding, must keep fighting, must keep thundering, must keep plowing, must keep on keeping things struggling, must speak out and speak up until justice is served because where there is no justice there is no peace.”…….
btw, Op.: Warp Speed went so quickly not just because they faked the trials. It was quick because they had already built the VAXX.
In fact, everyone assumes the Vaxx was built for the Virus, but I think they built the Vaxx first and then built the Virus to it.
Just like they’re building a crime to fit President Trump.
Hotter, please.
The FBI DC field office is located in the middle of DC political power. That is the FBI problem, political influence (by people they should be investigating), and the results speak for themselves.
DOJ lawyers are 100% political appointees, the staff is civil service staff. Look at how many directors came from the DOJ as prosecutors, Comey Mueller and Wray. The DOJ intentionally influences decisions and too many FBI agents there are apparent lap dogs.
Step 1 close the D.C. FBI field office. The corruption in DC is overpowering the elective system, much less the FBI. It is time to get the operational FBI away from our elected leaders who become fabulously wealthy from public service jobs. Politicians should be going to jail but the FBI is intentionally too close to this mess. While we are at it maybe remove the US Marshall Service from the DOJ.
The District of Corruption should be a priority. In addition to your excellent suggestion, close the District of Corruption courts, reassigning cases to adjacent states. Close the District of Corruption’s gulag with its unAmerican activities of holding people without trial for protesting it corruption. Place special taxes on the lobbyist parasites infesting it. Boycott it. Refuse to deliver with in its bounds. Support the patriots protesting there. And when PDT gets back in, start reassigning agencies to other parts of the country… except maybe the so-called education department which should be closed.
The People know all about Trump. Trump has baited the “Bad Guys” and they have taken the bait. The result is they are being exposed as never before. The more they are exposed to the more people turn against them. Trumps popularity is going up and not down.
The people are angry, scared and uneasy. They are seeing and feeling what life would be like under the control of the “Bad Guys” with concern for freedom and security.
This filing tells us that there is a grand jury and that disclosing the probable cause affidavit leading to the warrant would allegedly be a violation of grand jury secrecy. The raid is connected to a grand jury.
Motion by The Times Union of Albany NY to unseal warrant references two cases “Sealed search warrant(s) /9:22-mj-08332/ 9:22-mj-08338”
Why has the Times Union connected these two cases? Case 22-mj-08332 is the warrant, the other case must also be connected with the grand jury.
The big question is; why haven’t they charged him with something??? anything???? Never in all my many years has there ever been a single political figure who has been investigated so much for so long and they can’t “find” anything. His biggest problem is the fact that the stupid R’s won’t help him although they have been in charge most of the time Trump was in charge and tried….. Like I keep saying; one side is as bad as the other.
Angry beyond words! Deep state is crucifying our Real President Trump. When & who can end this persecution??
They will end it themselves. The more they “persecute” the worse it gets for them
I am almost at the point (remember, I said “almost”)
where I think President Trump should retire and play golf;
he has done enough for this country. Why should he go through more
torment and heartbreak? The rino and dem voters are f*cking
stupid. Based on some of the comments even on this site, it is
already past the point of no return.
Then I think we MAGA republicans should stay home and not
vote for anyone in a national election. Spend our time voting
in great school boards, city/county/state officials only.
Let the democrats own the mess. We MAGA types start
our own parallel economy, underground if we can.
When the rinos and democrats finally determine
what is going on and start crying hysterically,
we lead them in a direction to fix it. Remember,
they are still stupid and will need leaders.
Remember, I said “almost”…but, oh so close!
Trump has finally reached the point of his goal to drain the swamp and you think he should quit now?
missing the point?
You really aught to get to know Donald J. Trump.
Trump is a fighter. The “party” is not…..they are afraid to stand up for what they want (or say they want) but they don’t choose people who will stand up to fight; and I’m not talking about street fighting.
missing the point?
missing the point?
DOJ is a bunch of pathetic old commies.
That’s the way to tell’em by golly.
“If disclosed, the affidavit would serve as a roadmap to the government’s ongoing investigation, providing specific details about its direction and likely course, in a manner that is highly likely to compromise future investigative steps,” U.S. Attorney Juan Gonzalez and Justice Department counterintelligence chief Jay Bratt said in a filing urging the continued secrecy of the affidavit.”
Doesn’t confiscating attorney/client documents serve as a roadmap to PTrump’s lawsuit against them that would compromise his case against them????
BAM!
“It’s so true, we can’t tell you what it is!”
Twelve of DC’s finest woke are getting the opportunity of a lifetime to abuse the grand jury system in order to wage war on the man they hate. When do we get to investigate their investigation. Sounds more like a fishing expedition in search of a crime that a simple fact finding of whether the prosecutor HAS enough evidence to prosecute.
This is nothing more than a band of criminals pleading that the evidence against them be hidden from the jury. No more “secrets” or “classified” info from these wicked clowns. We need sunlight and ALOT of it!!!!
If you break into my house, I want to know what you stole, and more importantly, I want to know why my privacy was invaded. What gives you that right!
https://thefederalist.com/2022/08/15/from-bureaucrat-hack-to-grand-jury-witch-hunt-the-dojs-trump-raid-smells-like-spygate/
FTA “After all, within the course of one week, the justification for the search went from “nuclear secrets” to classified documents, to videos suggesting the documents were not secure, to videos suggesting the Trump team was serendipitously moving the documents, to a confidential human source claiming Trump continued to possess presidential records, to a supposed lie by Trump’s attorney that there were no documents present at Mar-a-Lago marked classified.
No matter the excuse provided for the raid, however, the reality remains that the Biden administration launched an unnecessary grand jury criminal investigation into Trump based on a referral from a partisan archivist. And all Americans of goodwill see the obvious difference in the government’s treatment of Clinton, Obama, and Trump, proving the purpose of the investigation was “to get” Trump and not the documents. “
So it was a disgruntled leftist Democrat Federal bureaucrat who complained about President Trump but had no problem with obama, Clinton or Sandy Berger stealing documents!!!
Long article but if true and the warrant was triggered by a “ partisan archivist” hack perhaps that’s why they don’t want the affidavit released! David S. Ferriero “The former archivist called January 6, 2021, “the worst day of his tenure as the keeper of the nation’s collective memory,” and “the worst day of my life” — “the absolute worst.”” Oh please!! And this jackass has no bias???
Amendment IV:
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
The Framers wrote that Amendment precisely because the British conducted searches exactly like the one the Royal Pricks of the DOJ conducted against Real President Trump.
Amen and Amen! Those kinds of searches were hated when the British did them and they’re hated now when the FBI does them! True Americans have a visceral hatred for searches that violate the Fourth Amendment!
ICYMI – FYI – WTF – Trust No One – ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Double Standards…
In an acknowledgment the FBI over-collected evidence during the Mar-a-Lago raid, the Justice Department informed Donald Trump’s team Monday that agents seized the former president’s passports and are obligated to return them, Just the News has learned.
The department was making plans Monday evening to return the passports and has also alerted defense lawyers the FBI may have obtained materials covered by various privileges that will be returned in the next two weeks, two sources told Just the News.
Turns out there was no affidavit at the time of the raid but they churned one out early this morning and are waiting for Kamala’s speech writers to proofread it.
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“This is 100% correct. The IC and federal bureaucracy didn’t accept that the US voters chose Trump, and they feared what a Trump Presidency might mean for their future place in the US Govt.”
Lying scumbags. They have screwed themselves again. 🤡
Roadmap?
Who is Merrick “Mitto” Garland working for – the MSS (current day version in the PRC – comparable to the NKVD during Stalin)
This isn’t even about Trump. It’s about whether or not we want to live under a tyrannical banana republic government.
What a bunch of criminals. A lawless gang of psychopaths. Nothing but dirty cops and their masters
I feel like watching “My Cousin Vinny” and “The Verdict” tonight!
both of these movies are so great IMHO – in both cases, buckling down to a serious pursuit of justice
“11 thousand votes ”
I haven’t watched much of the Jan6 hearings…
When i did , i hear the DEM talking point ,
“TRUMP tried to switch 11 thousand votes to steal an election.”
I have heard this at least 50 times.
a Sunday news show was the last time I heard.
I have never heard a reporter stick up for Trump.
THEY act like they don’t know the 11 thousand votes were fraudulent votes.
I would ask anybody using the 11 thousand vote talking point,
“why’re you trying to start a RIOT?
YOUR pissing off both sides.
TRUMP had every right to remove illegal votes.
You’re either ignorant or want to see RIOTS.
If that is your best argument for the JAN6 hearings and FBI raid,
then you should be removed from office for putting people in danger.”
Victor Davis Hanson: break up the FBI, they are a threat to democracy.
why do we need the FBI at all?
The coverup is always worse than the crime, and this is still part of the coverup. The crime of rigging an election so egregiously is really, really bad, though.
I see flickers of free thought in some of the Judicial branch, some flares of rebellion in the ranks of Republican senators and congresscritters (a few, Jordan, Gates) but nothing but dull, uncomprehending eyes from Democrats. It seems Democrats actually believe what they are saying, as astonishing as it is. When they are slightly inconvenienced, it is as though the world is coming to an end. I run out of invective attempting to describe them.
If Garland deliberated for “weeks” trying to decide about approving the search warrant or not….
there was obviously no good reason (critical classified issue) that required a raid.
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They must be panicking from the blow back and polling that their political people are getting , their messaging is all over the place and inconsistent and keeps changing …
I have mixed feelings about Trump but zero mixed feelings about this raid and the tyrannical goons who staged it. Trump wins by default. This isn’t even about him. It’s about whether or not we wish to be citizens or serfs.
Very big of you , may I thank you on behalf of President Trump …
Working hard at division? There is no us without President Trump.
Hope you work out your confused feelings.
Some say that citizens are serfs in a modern feudal system.
How in the World can y0u have “mixed” feelings about Trump? I think there is more to your “feelings” than just “mixed”…. You have got problems dude.
Is it an Obama or Clinton judge?
“Everyone is turning against the doj/fbi at this point” (Ellis Wyatt)
Not true unfortunately. If P Trump is investigated by the corrupt FBI for the next 20 years, millions of Americans will still believe it and still hope for a conviction and imprisonment. But the FBI is not waiting 20 years; they are determined to indict, convict and imprison this time.
The Fox and Friends trio were very supportive of the FBI this morning. Older dunce Doocy actually said after the alleged doxing attempts of FBI agents was reported:
“Don’t blame the FBI, it’s not their fault.” Gutfeld said, “99.99 % of the FBI are good” and on and on. Some people have no memories at all when it comes to P Trump or pretend not to.
If you’re counting the F&F talking points; you’ve missed it all.
These people are paid to say what they said; gotta take a side on every show.
“Go easy on the FBI; don’t want our viewers agitated too much…blah, blah, blah..”
Don’t fall for the noise.
Critical thinking skills needed now.
FOX can’t touch Soros or the FBI- go figure.
You shouldn’t be surprised. I don’t know how many times I have repeated this phrase in my own comments here, but FOX News is NOT OUR FRIENDS. People need to understand that and not think that FOX is somehow on our side. THEY ARE NOT.
that is the problem with the rino’s – there is always a “but”
as in “but I can watch Tucker”. Freeze out your enemy!
Looks like the Thieves are going to return the passports and some other stuff;
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/doj-admits-it-took-trumps-passports-offers-return-them?utm_source=breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter
the more confusing this becomes, the more angry and outraged I am.
keeping it simple and basic, I would like to understand whether or not DOJ attempt to deny disclosure of affidavit violates Trumps rights protected in 4th amendment to US constitution (search & seizure of property) and 6th amendment to US constitution (disclosure of charges)–
According to BBC news the determination about classification or de-classification is not relevant to the decision whether president Trump can be charged with any of the 3 flimsy potential “crimes” mentioned in the warrant : 1. violation of espionage act, 2. obstruction of justice, 3. crminal handling of govt records. – so why are we agonizing about whether documents were de-classified by Trump? or whether documents can be re-classified by FBI because now they have an “ongoing investigation”? if BBC news analysis is correct, why should anyone care whether Trump holds classified documents ??
We don’t live in Great Britain; we are a Constitutional Republic, not a Monarchy.
Only President Trump has the power to declassify; the DOJ does not; they are lying.
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I’ve The Book. I know how this is going to end.
This entire event was promulgated by David S. Ferriero at NARA. The most LGBTQ agency in the US Govt.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/08/15/from-bureaucrat-hack-to-grand-jury-witch-hunt-the-dojs-trump-raid-smells-like-spygate/
He probably had help from Marc Elias and the Obama/Biden/DNC/Hillary / Lawfare group, but he initiated all of what is now happening.
Is there a government agency or department they HAVEN’T used for this fraudulent Coup?
I had thought maybe the Bureau of Weights and Measures, but then the scales fell from my eyes.
good one!
Show me one time where the NRA has ever actually sold a gun or or taught anyone to use one. I don’t own a gun, but I belong to the NRA, and they don’t push the LBGwhat ever.
You seem to have misread the post or be confused. It refers to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), Not the National Rifle Association (NRA).
Good grief…and they vote, too. Thank you for waking up “old lady”.
“Nevermind” -Emily Litella
I thought it was interesting that he decided to retire soon after he stirred up this mess claiming he wanted to make sure he is replaced by a Dem admin. Seems odd for a seemingly non partisan agency