State Dept use CNN. CIA/IC use Washington Post. DOJ/FBI use New York Times/Politico. These are the constants in an ever evolving, ever changing, yet always consistent narrative engineering roadmap.
The New York Times frames the newest version of the ‘case against Trump.’ This is technically update 4.0, from the original 2015/2016 targeting effort. Version 2.0 was Robert Mueller. Version 3.0 was the impeachment revision built upon 1.0 and 2.0.
In the latest update, 4.0 carries the same intent but a modified and expanded design.
New York Times – […] Last year, officials with the National Archives discovered that Mr. Trump had taken a slew of documents and other government material with him when he left the White House at the end of his tumultuous term in January 2021. That material was supposed to have been sent to the archives under the terms of the Presidential Records Act.
Mr. Trump returned 15 boxes of material in January of this year. When archivists examined the material, they found many pages of documents with classified markings and referred the matter to the Justice Department, which began an investigation and convened a grand jury.
In the spring, the department issued a subpoena to Mr. Trump seeking additional documents that it believed may have been in his possession.
[…] In an effort to resolve the dispute, Mr. Bratt and other officials visited Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Fla., in early June, briefly meeting Mr. Trump while they were there. Two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, M. Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb, spoke with Mr. Bratt and a small number of investigators he traveled with, people briefed on the meeting said.
Mr. Corcoran and Ms. Bobb showed Mr. Bratt and his team boxes holding material Mr. Trump had taken from the White House that were being kept in a storage area, the people said.
According to two people briefed on the visit, Mr. Bratt and his team left with additional material marked classified, and around that time also obtained the written declaration from a Trump lawyer attesting that all the material marked classified in the boxes had been turned over.
A short time after the meeting, according to people briefed on it, Mr. Bratt sent Mr. Corcoran an email telling him to get a more secure padlock for the room. Mr. Trump’s team complied.
The Justice Department also subpoenaed surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago recorded over a 60-day period, including views from outside the storage room. According to a person briefed on the matter, the footage showed that, after one instance in which Justice Department officials were in contact with Mr. Trump’s team, boxes were moved in and out of the room. (read more)
That’s essentially the nub of the current DOJ/FBI effort to target/remove President Trump.
According to the narrative, President Trump isn’t allowed to have any records of his administration. So goes the origin of the targeting. All other presidents are permitted to have documents, but not Trump. Trump bad. All others, good.
…”the footage showed that, after one instance in which Justice Department officials were in contact with Mr. Trump’s team, boxes were moved in and out of the room.” Yeah, well, kind of hard to respond to whatever they wanted, without actually touching or moving the boxes; but ignore that… we need to make it suspicious or something.
NBC Legal Analyst Barb McQuade showcases the current DOJ plan as outlined by the Lawfare crew. [link]
To anyone concerned, I would simply say ‘relax‘. Be angry, but not despondent.
The effort is as much intended to wear YOUR psyche down as it is to attack Trump. Remember the Alinsky strategy: Ridicule, Isolate, Marginalize… This is the essential goal of political lawfare.
Yes, political lawfare is corrupt, horrible and infuriating. However, at the end of the day it is based on weak arguments and fear.
The problem they face against Trump is simple. In 2020 President Trump earned 75 million votes in the election. 75 million. How can they duplicate the election fraud to defeat 75 million voters, without the benefit of covid mail-in ballots?
That’s their problem. They cannot defeat him or us.
They must remove President Trump because he/we represent an existential threat.
They will fail…
I think they wanted to spring this in Oct. but Biden is flailing so badly they expect a bloodbath in Nov. They are doing this now in the hopes of stopping that
Their present Objectives (among others): “The Raid Damage”
SD asked how will they top 75 MM votes without the benefit of covid mail-in ballots?
IMHO we will have mail-in in 2022 (upcoming Covid variant / spike excuse) and in 2024 (mail-in established as new norm).
Additionally: (a) they are perfecting the machine count fuggery, and drop box work arounds, (c) and will always have the 3am drops and not least (d) the emerging norm of multiple days of counting.
In the GOPe they have started the putsch for DeSandinmyass.
Other tricks include the General Election splitter. Clinton v Bush 41 w/ H. Ross Perot siphoning off a large chunk of (R and I ) votes.
Once dems and rinos have complete control of who gets selected, we will no longer have a republic.
this has already happened. they have complete control
The last article I read said the dems would hold the senate.
I can see that.. It was along shot but we should take the House by a good measure
hold?
I don’t see that. I don’t see Fetterman winning, and Kemp is up in every pill, so he and Hershel Walker would complement each other. That’s just two. Nobody forgot their covid and spending abuses, the economy will worsen, etc. Dems are just dreaming.
But we need to get involved and get rid of these open primaries and ranked choice bullcrap.
I don’t see Mark Kelly winning unless Maricopa does its usual cheat
Pick a close Senate race near you and volunteer to canvas. Door to door makes a difference. For those following, please publish a list of those needing help.
As with any ” so called news” report- you must consider the leanings of the writer of the article- All the major cable tv clowns are propaganda and not real reporters of FACTS.
Have to keep posting David Plouffe’s (HRC’s campaign manager) Tweet in August of 2016. They must have known through internal polling that Hildebeast was in a world of shit:
Plouffe: “It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed throughly. His kind must not rise again.”
Plouffe: “It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again.” – new gamboge
Who is David Plouffeter?
‘In January 2017, Plouffe was hired by Mark Zuckerberg to lead policy and advocacy at the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. He leads a bipartisan policy board alongside Ken Mehlman where [sic] they announce policy members and work to find opportunities to work with the government.’ — Wikipedia
Lock him up!
Plouffe is a punk whose opinion doesn’t matter at this point. He failed hitlery’s attempt to be president, therefore, no longer useful.
Along with Mook and Podesta. You couldn’t read a political blog without getting a Podesta comment; haven’t heard from him in a long time. Dems don’t seem to want him on board.
Wonder how many people have Plouffe on a list……
Never underestimate the enemy and know thy enemy.
“They” are not a political party although they utilize the Uni Party as henchmen.
“They” in past iterations have been capable of slaughtering millions , including the Holocaust, just to achieve their goals.
“They” are beyond our shores.
“They” will indict President Trump.
Relax and chill at you and yours own peril. “They” do not require a conviction only the indictment to facilitate chaos and opportunity to grab more power. For any and all who claim this whole thing is ” Backfiring” I fear you are missing the elephant in the room – pun intended.
The GOP brass are in on this as Sundance astutely points out. They are assisting with fomenting the constitutional crisis and foaming at the mouth for political violence to erupt. I agree with Sundance – Remain in control of your emotions and do not act unlawfully.
But know that the voter fraud steal for 2022 is a given and underway and we have less than a 50% chance of outrunning the rigged election by increased turnout. YES VOTE. But do not delude yourself that “They” have not calculated the sting in advance.
Fly your flag upside down as our nation is in distress – make this viral like Let’s go Brandon. Step up and be a poll watcher and apply political pressure now on your state and local lawmakers to protect the vote. Stop harvest balloting to the degree possible.
But most of all … STOP expecting President Trump ( voted for twice will vote for again) to be super human and untouchable.
“They” aim to crucify him in the town square with cameras rolling so to speak. As I previously wrote in an article,
“But President Trump, his family, and those who sacrificed to serve the mission do give a damn about you and our country. And for this burden and selflessness they are being ripped apart and devoured like Christians to the lions. Forgive me, but I honestly do feel the vibrations of what feels like a low celebratory hum in the Colosseum from the red hat cheerleaders of old. What else can explain why I do not see millions on the screen peacefully demanding that this stops now? This twisted TDS vile blood feud is unacceptable and will no longer be tolerated by the majority of the country.
The Constitutional Republic of the United States does not condone public or private Crucifixion orgies! But by all signs, the Republic has ended. You best start toughening up your palms and feet fellow travelers as the possessed know no end to the building of wooden crosses.”
https://rightwirereport.com/2022/08/09/the-day-after-america-trumps-fbi-raid-talking-point-substitutions/
Second , they are coming for you and yours next.
This is not like all the other hoaxes. This time they will go full frontal Monty on this country and this man. So prepare your mental state for that day as it is on the horizon, Then gather and organize, and be seen and heard. Like the Tea Party did in masses across our country over two years – now is the time we stand up and be counted PEACEFULLY and LAWFULLY!
Because I am in total disagreement with Sundance on this one point – There are NOT more of us, than them.
Most are in a deep sleep of denial or have no critical thinking skills in their indoctrinated heads.
You are entitled to your opinion and now you have shared it.
then consider this
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/14/sunday-talks-adam-schiff-claims-he-has-seen-no-evidence-that-president-trump-declassified-documents-a-ridiculous-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-9083448
“Because I am in total disagreement with Sundance on this one point – There are NOT more of us, than them.”
My interpretation of this statement, “…not more of us than them…” is the man means far, far too many Americans are still asleep with their heads in the sand or up their rear ends. Far, far too many Americans know more about the characters in their favorite TV shows, or about the players on their favorite teams, than they know what Congress is doing.
On the other hand, between 75 and 100 million people voted for Trump. That’s good. But one of the questions is this: how far are they willing go to, and what are they willing to do, if Trump’s imprisoned on these false charges? Because if that happens….
…..the last human who can fight the communists who overthrew America, the last general who could rally 1o0 million to vote for him, will be out of the picture. And the only ones left to carry on will be us. So, the question still stands: how far are “us” willing to go, and what is “us” willing to do, to take back America?
I am more interested in getting that affidavit tomorrow.
Agree that the Chief of Staff is going to have to take this. You can’t just have stuff move in/out of a SCIF with no control. And you can’t just make a sign of the cross over a box of material and declare it UNCLAS.
Nowhere does it indicate this room where the boxes were stored is a SCIF. Stop hallucinating!
It’s well known public knowledge, that both Mar-a-Lago and Trump Tower has/had SCIF’s built into them. Whether ‘this’ room was that SCIF, I don’t know.
Trump used to call Mara-a-Lago the winter White House.
“And you can’t just make a sign of the cross over a box of material and declare it UNCLAS.”
Cite the relevant statutes supporting your claim.
Affording to Kash Patel, the declassification process is immediate and binding regardless of bureaucratic process and delays.
Ditto according to Col. Pat Lang
barf mcquade was on morning joek BEFORE any specifics of the warrant were ‘published’, spouting off about the espionage crap.
these former us attorney scum are all still wired in to the doj.
btw her claim to fame was putting the black dem mayor of detroit in prison before PDJT fired her skank ass (and pardoning the mayor half way thru his ridiculously long sentence).
I for one do not know what the evil ones will do to PT…..nor do I know what PT will choose to do…..
what I DO KNOW, if if they indict him remove him …. I will always be MAGA…meaning I will always do all I can to make America great again..to take this nation back….
because I BELIEVE IN HIS MESSAGE HIS MOVEMENT…..it is our task…to do..never give up….
what are you willing to give for your freedoms….????
i’m willing to vote so hard that I make the Steal Obvious, to encourage Protest until resignations at every local office in the country.
Look at how things went in AZ/Kari Lake.
You are *on* to the right strategy.
everything.
Gotta admit, a voice in my head is thinking “Where is Julian Assange, when we need him?”
Of coarse I KNOW “Where he is, he’s in PRISON, and this is why.
Point is, if a wiki-leaks type document dump of ALL of these documents would not be a way to respond to this tactic?
The MSM would distort it, and say it is Putin disinformation, and violation of the espionage act.
I suppose if Sundance, Technofog etc did analyses of what the documents SAY, they could also be targeted?
But, it WOULD, POSSIBLY by “getting it out in the public domain” damage/destroy this latest false narrative.
I agree with Sundances final admonition, temper our EMOTIONAL responce, so that, as I have commented many times, we do not cause our “critical thinking” to go mute, and open ourselves to manipulation.
Of course it would counter this, it should have already happened! This would be moot and the real topic would be taking out the trash in the DNC, IC and Congress.
Which is exactly WHY Assange is in prison, it’s a brick through his compatriots’ windows to stand down or they’re next.
The thing they’re scared about is how many Republicans showed up ON Election Day to vote in person. Part of the fraud in the mail in ballots is that it’s easier to change those votes than day-of votes, plus, their computer models can’t account for the kind of wave and print every ballot they need in a day.
Some of these surprise wins lately have been by insurgent MAGA candidates winning Election Day in person voting 70-80%.
Schiff saying he doesn’t know for sure that the documents were declassified tells you something else: the bad guys don’t like their hand of cards.
Pres Trump should announce his candidacy and announce a specific anti-corruption agenda which includes disbanding the FBI and eliminating the top ranking 1,000 employees at DOJ and just rebooting that organization after a full declassification of everything they’ve been doing. Oh, and those 87,000 IRS agents? They, and half their Lois Lerner wanna bees get the ax, too.
And that’s just the stuff that happens in January 2025.
And if someone votes for you by mail, your vote goes to adjudication or the Holding cell.
IIRC, Kari Lake won the primary in Arizona because those who planned to vote for took their mail in ballots to their polling places on Election Day. That may have been in play with Joe Kent (Washington), too. They can’t say you voted by mail when you’ve got your ballot right there in your hand. Stay there and watch them feed your ballot into the machine. Lord Willing, you will get a receipt. (We do in Texas)
Fill out your ballot and mail it in the first day.
To be sure, show up on game day and fill out a provisional ballot. The professionals at the clerk’s office will sort it out and only count one.
Oh! I like how you think. A great agenda for President Trump to follow. Heck! Just announce already – dont wait till after mid-terms. This illegal raid of Mar a LAGO crossed the Rubicon.
And de-unionize the public sector! All of it! Woodrow Wilson knew public sector unions were bad news, and he was a “progressive!”
Hope the axe falls on the Lois Lerner troop in January of 2023. A majority in the House can defund the IRS, so we shouldn’t have to wait for Trump in 2025.
It’s not going to work, we’re on to their game. Trump will be the 47th President no matter what these clowns do. A phony indictment will only embolden the base and bring others into our way of thinking that this was another hoax. I’m beginning to get positive about the future of the country. God, in his almighty wisdom, will protect His people from their nefarious deeds. Trump will clean house this time!
Kash Patel said today now that the FBI has another ongoing counterintelligence investigation, they can make all Russsiagate documents classified again. They must be absolutely terrified of these documents being exposed. Now the FBI can come out and by saying ‘ongoing intel investigation’ and no one in the public will ever see or know anything about them. They raided the former president’s home so a major coverup of their corruption could be perpetrated.
Durham heaves a sign of relief. He can retire now without releasing anything.
He would retire an obstructionist failed prosecutor. Legacy ruined.
an investigation which exists on paper only, like a no-show job
And with a counterintelligence operation, FBI/DOJ doesn’t have to answer to Congressional oversight – must protect those sources and methods.
Even though the sources and methods are the crime.
Let’s hope Pres Trump made copies.
And begins releasing them.
That’s presuming that Trump does not have copies of the documents sought by the FIBs. Releasing them will certainly embarrass the traitors.
I forget how it was worded, precisely (by Col Lang) but PDJT can’t be held guilty if re-classified after the fact.
They are terrified and they didn’t find what they were looking for. Which is why they are now subpoena-ing the videos for 60 days prior to the raid and IIRC, specifically video of the extra locked door.
What they’re freaking out about is that RICO suit the president filed in March. They need to nullify/ classify/ whatever the documents President Trump is holding as evidence. Which is futile, duh. It’s secured and has been since the suit was filed (common sense). It’s why both judges recused and Reinhart signed the warrant immediately after. Reinhart was *easy* to blackmail. President Trump is squeaky clean and unafraid. He can’t *be* blackmailed.
This is getting more obvious every step they take.
You put an uplifting post on this site and many comments
are doomsday negative. What does that say?
It tells me I should open an “All Things Surrender” franchise here and get rich quick. White flags, knee pads etc.
You must know your enemies better than they know themselves. That way you are never surprised by anything they do. The Democrats and the RINOs are sending strong signals as to what they will be doing to keep Donald Trump out of the picture for 2024. If you are a MAGA Republican, you ignore those signals at your own peril.
It’s easier to be negative for some people. Others have Faith and seek solutions. Onward Christian Soldiers
Fight people, do not weaken.
Why did the founders even bother with adding the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution? In keeping with the times, where fear reigns supreme, it should have said: “In order to escape tyranny, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms to commit suicide, shall not be infringed.
the slow the Government taking back over as long as possible (they knew it was inevitable)
It was a warning sign of Tyranny, just like all the others.
This an information War and the number one enemy of the American people is the media. No other entity or Country threatens America’s freedom more than the media. They are as complicit in the overthrow of Americas Constitutional government as the last scallywag.
There are members in the media facing the prospect of treason like any other traitor. They feel their feet burning and will go all out to stop Trump and MAGA with whatever it takes.
I still think it is going to take Military Court intervention somewhere in the not-too-distant future. IMO, it has to be done one way or other by the mid-term election or the United States as we once knew it is a goner.
“The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”
― William Colby
“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” – William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987
https://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/cia-flashback-well-know-our-disinformation-program-is-complete-when-everything-the-american-public-believes-is-false/118755
https://www.outofshadows.org/
The Out Of Shadows documentary lifts the mask on how the mainstream media & Hollywood manipulate & control the masses by spreading propaganda throughout their content. Our goal is to wake up the general public by shedding light on how we all have been lied to & brainwashed by a hidden enemy. This project is the result of two years of work made by a team of professionals. Patriots made this documentary with the sole purpose of getting the truth out there.
Federal For Profit Press Outlet
Yeah, “Lloyd “The Lump” Austin and “Thoroughly Modern” Milley will get em.
Milley will have nothing to do with it one way or another.
Between the Trump rally crowds, and the constant drum beet of election fraud being outed, they are terrified, as many could face criminal charges if they loose 22 midterm by a large margin.
They are not terrified and the same corrupt DOJ/FBI will be in place in January, 2023, therefore no possibility of criminal charges.
Charges of Treason are more likely for the Communist bunch of Traitors.
I’m not in the legal profession, but isn’t that they’ve been trying to do since 2015 literally a seditious conspiracy.
Just because people have looked the other way and refused to go there doesn’t change what it is.
“The freemen of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle.”
James Madison
That is a great quote!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11110923/Trump-FBI-raid-department-homeland-security-bulletin.html
Another “false flag” operation.
The feds are very limited in numbers and they have maxed out their resources in their dc compounds.
They don’t produce anything that they need to operate. They have to import everything from the MAGA areas.
The feds continue to lash out with process type actions against President Trump and his MAGA supporters but with very little actual physical impact on them.
The world is watching as President Trump and his MAGA forces are gaining in strength and the democrat / GOPe / media are quickly losing grasp of the smaller and smaller part of America that they control in dc.
“Let’s go Brandon!”
Yep,
President Trump and his supporters are on an ascendancy.
His polling is increasing daily.
Just look at the rallies against “ the man” since the illegal raid.
Team Trump for the win.
Praise the Lord!
Thanks Sundance
On the last part, that they will fail, due to more of us than them.
I have to confess, I am an engineering kind of guy. Math. Equations. Cause and effect.
It’s gratifying to know we will win, but I just don’t feel fulfilled unless I know the “mechanism”. What actual steps happen in which “more of us” translates to victory?
There must be one because Trump seems confident. He continues to just roll with what the enemies do to him when, with what’s facing him I would think it’s way past time for council to tell him to not even be releasing public statements.
You might find interesting the link below that gives an overview of our battle.
President Trump won our “Decisive Battle” over a year ago when he didn’t concede.
MAGA has the numerical, economic, moral, intellect and armed majorities in America. The MAGA citizens are the “doers” of America …….while the democrat / GOPe / media’s creeps are the “email job caste.”
If you are MAGA, you are America First, and are on the winning side.
“The Decisive Battle”
https://tinkzorg.wordpress.com/2021/11/02/2740/
Very good, very good. We can in effect, win by attrition. At this point, the more the left pushes the envelope the more it tightens its own noose. Still a little vague on how it will actually play out on the street, but more certain that it will.
Itravisjr,
You got it, good job.
The dirty little secret is that the democrat / GOPe / media coup leaders know that they lost the war over a year ago (just like the jap leaders knew in 1942 that the war was lost) but they just haven’t broken the news to the local commie cells.
Using the WWII analogy, we are in the “island hopping” stage of strategically destroying the enemy. Instead of islands, we have states.
It is interesting that President Trump’s terms for the democrat / GOPe / media coup would probably be the same that the United States had for the japs ……….”unconditional surrender or face complete destruction ……….and, either way, quick justice for the law breakers.”
“Let’s go Brandon!”
“Become at ease with not knowing.
This takes you beyond mind because the mind is always trying to conclude and interpret.
It is afraid of not knowing.
So, when you can be at ease with not knowing, you have already gone beyond the mind.”
I’m learning to practice that, becoming at ease with not knowing, because I tend to fall into the fear, anxiety mode of worry-warting when faced with these huge unknowns.
It’s like being blind in a snowstorm with no guideposts, so after repeating the above close it out with a visualized prayer seeing myself free to “let the Holy Spirit be today’s guide” while learning to become at ease with not knowing.
I have faith that somehow our instincts will let us know how to translate this situation into victory. We just have to get comfortable with that relaxing, be angry and not despondent while not turning our eyes away from what’s going on like Sundance says above.
Good lesson, Bessie – thanks.
Their lives, their fortunes, their sacred honor. True freedom and liberty involves real sacrifice. We’re not there….yet.
Any old times suspicious of this?
They’re still using Dominion Software.
who cares, figure out how to meet people and get a group of more than 1 person. and go from there.
MUST READ – The great Victor Davis Hanson
FBI, R.I.P.?
By Victor Davis Hanson
August 11, 2022
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/08/11/fbi_rip_148036.html
VDH is the king of Captain Obvious political opinions.
Here’s one more. Epoch Times via zero hedge.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/former-national-intelligence-director-trump-has-ultimate-declassification-authority
John Ratcliffe.
Meanwhile.. border wide open.
The Stock Market Bear Rally commencing the last week of June is right at a heavy resistance level. Some see it as an opportunity to get out if they haven’t already done so.
The Stock Market is highly manipulated using the People’s money; US Treasury, Federal Reserve Bank, Black Rock, Vanguard, State Street, etc. and all run by Globalist Democrats. They are doing all they can to prop-up Biden and all that goes with it. Otherwise, the Stock Market would be trading below 30,000, IMO.
The manipulation is a good thing for those who have not got out of the Market and a chance for those who didn’t to get out now. There are those who are anticipating Trumps return and that being the case The Stock Market could be trading well in the 40, 000’s.
Trump will be arrested, he will be indicted, and he will be convicted by a kangaroo jury in D.C. Perhaps his conviction will be overturned on appeal, but his attempt to regain the White House will be dashed, to the delight of the Swamp.
“Trump will be arrested”
The moment that happens there will be several 100,000 armed Trump supporters on the streets.
And the military, police, and armed government agents will be helpless to stop it.
If they try, they will face a million armed Trump supporters on the streets.
One way or another, this is not going to end well for the traitors who started this.
Unlikely.
This is not 1776.
People live easy lives by comparison. They will not give that up. They need their jobs, not prosecutions and control as happened to the Canadian truckers. They have mortgages.
The Admin State expects some demonstrations…… but nothing like your prophesy.
“Unlikely.
This is not 1776.
People live easy lives by comparison. They will not give that up. They need their jobs, not prosecutions and control as happened to the Canadian truckers. They have mortgages.”
You underestimate a significant fraction of Trump’s supporters. All you’re really saying is that YOU will not come out and support Trump, if they arrest him in an attempt to crush the MAGA movement. But unlike you, I and many others will not be content to live in, or have my children live in, or have their grandchildren grow up in a dystopian 1984ish world.
I will fight now while there is still a chance to stop it and reverse it. Part of the problem is that Admin State, as you call it, believes what you espouse. That MAGA is at the core a hollow movement with no conviction. I think they and you are mistaken.
If we were to already be showing our willingness to oppose the UNIPARTY, maybe they wouldn’t be so sure about that. I certainly believe that Trump made a mistake in agreeing to not tell his supporters about the invasion of his home until after it was all over … until the FBI and DOJ thugs had absconded with nearly every scrap of paper in the house.
Had he instead given us a heads up at the first indication this was happening, there might have been several thousand armed supporters surrounding the house within a hour, intimidating the FBI thugs right back. Then DeSantis and the rest of the MAGA nation might have been forced to act in support of Trump, rather than just respond with disappointing, politicianish tweets and lukewarm support.
Now, instead, you are just waiting for the axeman to arrive … like good little sheep. I weep for this nation. But it’s not over yet. There may yet come a time when they push us too far. And as I noted on the nightly political thread:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/08/then_comes_thermidor.html
“Then Comes Thermidor”
Oh dear.
You might not understand. Your 100,000 armed revolutionaries who are presumably ready to shoot someone (who?) won’t change anything for more than the time they are on the street. There is no Constitutional way protesters with guns can legally change anything.
Any “president” they intend to instal is invalid at law.
Watching too many tele-dramas can warp rational thought I believe.
Well, like I said, I hope you like living in a 1984ish police state (or worse).
Because that’s where we’re headed if we do what you seem to be suggesting … nothing.
Oh, by the way, I said nothing about our side “installing” a President.
We’d just be keeping bad guys from preventing Trump from running.
Oh, and speaking of warped rational thought, yours must be, if you think “law” matters at all to the other side.
Law is now simply being used as a weapon against us, like everything else they touch.
Who are you going to shoot once you have 100k with guns on the street? How are you going to “keep the bad guys from preventing Trump from running”. That’s a legal consideration, street guns change it not a bit. Pray tell.
Do the though experiment…what you are advocating is frankly stupid, although it might be emotionally satisfying for you.
Well, now we’ve heard your opinion of my notion that we confront the deep state while we still have the means and opportunity to do so. But I didn’t hear why you think stopping the UNIPARTY from preventing Trump from running is us “installing” a President. That certainly sounds like something a democRAT who supports progressives might say.
Also, we haven’t heard your solution to keeping MAGA alive. We’re all ears. Or am I right … your solution is to do nothing. Just wait as the UNIPARTY turns us into slaves of The State?
And what do you propose we do when they come for our guns … the last defense we have against them. You understand that they are going to do that, don’t you? The only thing now keeping them from just declaring their eternal rule over us right now are those guns?
Finally, was I correct in thinking you believe the law matters to them? Why else would you suggest that us taking to the streets to support Trump’s right to run for election again is “installing” him as President and thus *invalid*? Hmmmm?
Talk about straw men galore…..
The only way you fix the USA is to import an honest election system that works from somewhere else and then get the votes needed.
If you think 1,000,000 guns on the street will change anything…. Walter Mitty would like to talk to you about your fantasies
“Talk about straw men galore…..
The only way you fix the USA is to import an honest election system that works from somewhere else and then get the votes needed.”
Talk about “warped rational thought.” Where are you going to get this “honest” election system? Name the country. Does it involve anything different than what has already been suggested by the MAGA movement? Do you think the UNIPARTY is going to just allow you to “import” this “honest” system from “somewhere else” and put into use? We haven’t even been able to get the current fraudulent system investigated by the authorities … because of the UNIPARTY’s control over the institutions that should do so has prevented that. We haven’t been able to get them to adopt the existing MAGA recommendations to make our system honest … like in person voting. So you do you plan to “import an honest election system that works from somewhere else”?
You’re not living in the real world, Mill. And you’re not offering a real solution. All you’re offering is handwaving in order to not answer any the questions I asked you … and perhaps to get us to do NOTHING about what’s happening. That seems to be your real intent if you ask me.
And for the record, I’m not the one posting strawmen. You are. You started this whole conversation with me by tossing out the strawman that our taking to the streets to protest an unconstitutional search of Trump’s home by and FBI that wants to keep him from running for President is *us* “installing” a President. THAT is a strawman because I neither suggested or implied “installing” Trump. I clearly only wanted him to be able to run in 2024 and let the voters decide in a fair and free election.
None of my other statements/questions were strawmen either. I asked you quite reasonable questions that you just seem desperate to avoid. One of them was why do you think stopping the UNIPARTY from preventing Trump from running by unconstitutional means is us “installing” a President in the first place? Where’d you get the idea that doing that is us “installing” anything. I ask because that sounds just like something a democRAT, not a MAGA supporter, would utter. Are you really a MAGA supporter, or are you a Never Trumper or perhaps a democRAT trying to disrupt this forum?
Elsewhere in this thread YOU wrote that “the country is approximately 50% Democrat voters, 25% UniParty Republicans who prefer some “Republican” other than Trump and 25% Trump voters.” Tell us, Mill, how’s does your belief that “other than Trump” voters are half the republican vote square with the FACT that almost all of Trump supported candidates in the primaries have won over candidates supported by “other than Trump” republicans, even with democRATS voting in some of those primaries? That fact seems to disprove the your claim about the relative power of “other than Trump” votes.
I asked you elsewhere if you think Biden really got 81 million votes. You didn’t answer. Trump *officially* got 74 million votes, a difference of only 7 million. And that’s with many of the “other than Trump” Republican voting for Biden. That result again simply doesn’t square with your belief that half the Republican Party are “other than Trump” voters. I think your percentages are completely bogus. I think your percentages are what the UNIPARTY wants MAGA people to believe … so they’ll get discouraged and not vote in 2022/2024.
Furthermore, I think almost everyone here is certain that there was massive cheating in the 2020 election … that, in reality, Biden got far fewer than 81 million votes and Trump got more than 74 million votes. As it was, Trump’s 74 million was 7 million more than any sitting President in history! How can you rationally argue, given the total lack of enthusiasm we witnessed at campaign events across the country for the two candidates, that Biden’s 81 million number is legitimate? I don’t think you can. In fact, accounting for election fraud, Trump might actually have gotten close to 80 million votes and Biden less than 70 million. In that case, your claim that democRATS are 50% of the vote is ludicrous, too. It’s not what a MAGA supporter would claim, but what a UNIPARTY supporter trying to disillusion MAGA supporters would say.
I also asked you what do you propose we do when they come for our guns? That’s not a strawman. That’s a quite reasonable question to someone who claims to be a MAGA supporter. Or don’t you believe they are coming for our guns? Or perhaps you believe our guns play no role in keeping us free from tyrants? Maybe you think the Founders were wrong? I could count on one hand the number of MAGA supporters who are anti-2nd Amendment. Are you? If not, what do you propose we do when they come for our guns? I think what you say may here and now will enlighten us as to what you really are, Mill.
Finally, I still want to know whether you think the other side cares one iota about the “law”. I don’t see any evidence of that. If they don’t believe in obeying the law … if they are willing to flagrantly defy the law in order to win the next few elections, what hope have you that anything other than using our 2nd Amendment rights is going to keep us from being enslaved? That’s not a strawman … it’s an honest question that’s at the very heart of this discussion?
Where to start…..such straw man arguments requires a thousand words….briefly….
-You can’t prevent them stopping Trump from running with guns on the street…I’m tempted to add “you idiot.
-There are any number of perfectly functional English speaking democracies with non corrupt ballots. Australia, NZ, UK….etc ….all you do is no computer voting , mail ins are applied for with ID and sent to an address and returned to a booth or by mail, no drop boxes, one person one ballot paper, mark the ballot with a pen or pencil, all party scrutineers observe the count at all times, chain of custody is simply normal procedure
Voter ID if you like, but in Australian Federal elections they get 16,000 duplicate votes with no ID unless you look suspicious…in tens of million of votes…..really simple.
The US isn’t up to it because the US didn’t think of it. A common “US exceptionalism” problem.
-What have US elections got to do with them “coming for your guns”. That’s impossible, refer SCOTUS judgements upholding the 2nd.
-You of course must change the goal posts because you got done over.
This has nothing to do with Biden’s fraudulent win…it’s about many Republicans not supporting Trump in the primaries and your attempt to run away from that.
“Tell us, Mill, how’s does your belief that “other than Trump” voters are half the republican vote square with the FACT that almost all of Trump supported candidates in the primaries have won over candidates supported by “other than Trump” republicans, even with democRATS voting in some of those primaries? That fact seems to disprove the your claim about the relative power of “other than Trump” votes.”
I won’t humiliate you but your maths is childish. 49% vs 51% for a Trump endorsed candidate gives him a 1% majority many times, think about it, you’ll get it eventually.
You have already stated you believe Trump supporters taking to the streets with guns is your solution. I have to stop engaging with fools and will do that right now.
“You can’t prevent them stopping Trump from running with guns on the street…I’m tempted to add “you idiot.”
LOL! Oh, don’t hold back. Let your temptations out. Debate like a member of the UNIPARTY. I’ve encountered MANY on various forums and they can rarely can keep themselves from using such emotional verbiage as their primary argument.
Look, you’re entitled to your belief, Mill, but this very much a war of intimidation we’re playing. And right now the only side doing the intimidating is the UNIPARTY and it’s allies. Their goal is to make Trump, his associates and MAGA supporters in general afraid. And make the wishy-washy supporters of the UNIPARTY afraid. And from what I see on this forum, they’re doing doing a rather good job of that right now … you being one of their minions.
And that’s all they have do to win this … to make us do NOTHING like you seem to be suggesting we do … because you haven’t said anything constructive yet. You haven’t answer the questions I asked that might show a constructive alternative. You’ve as much as said that when they come for Trump to keep him from running, we do nothing. That was the premise of the comment that set off this exchange. You’ve as much as said that when they cheat during that election, we do nothing. And when they come for our guns and eliminate the last real threat to them, we do nothing.
Had Trump immediately announced the invasion of his home by FBI and DOJ thugs, I’ve no doubt that thousands of MAGA patriots would have immediately headed for the scene of the crime … and many of them would have been armed. That would have been quite intimidating to the 30 or so FBI thugs who were there. And I mean thugs quite literally because we’re now being told many of them were under investigation by Durham.
Did you miss the fact that yesterday at least a dozen ARMED Trump supporters showed up outside an FBI office in Texas. It drove the mainstream media crazy. And recent FBI Thug Director Wray opening whined to the media about the threat Trump supporters are to his wonderful FBI thugs. They’re worried and for good reason. And had thousands of MAGA supporters shown their support DURING the raid, the FBI would now be even more worried.
They’d be a little more hesitant to pull the same stunt or consider arresting Trump or some other MAGA supporter on obviously bogus, politically motivated charges. Their supporters in the media are openly gleeful about the possibility of Trump being made to do the perp walk. FBI intimidation is why they are acting this way. Now they feel free to take the masks of impartiality off. No more need to pretend … the FBI and DOJ have their backs.
But all it would change were MAGA supporters to take to the streets in numbers to oppose what’s going on. All it would take is a spark in such an instance… just like the spark at Lexington Green nearly 250 years ago, when a small group of patriots faced off against another group of thugs who were on also a mission of invasion to intimidate the people. All would take is a spark for this to spiral completely out of their control and they know it.
Think clearly, for just a moment, about what they know, Mill.
First, they can’t count on every member of the military, police and armed government employees joining them should push come to shove. This is not the British against Americans in a far away land, but righteous Americans facing off against corrupt Americans in America. And many of the Americans on their side didn’t grow up believing in what they are now being asked to do. If only a small percentage of these people (and I think it would be more than small percentage) decided to side with MAGA, it would create havoc and fear in the UNIPARTY’s ranks. And of course, that also means the forces the UNIPARTY can deploy are smaller than the number of military, police and armed government agents.
Second, they know they would be vastly outnumbered. Ten to One at least. After all, over a hundred million people in the US have guns … and I would hazard that the majority of them are conservatives or at least people who would not want to live in a police state. Combined, the military, police, FBI, IRS, ATF and whatnot total a few million individuals. If a spark mobilizes the resolve of our side, they will be vastly outnumbered and they know it.
Sure, they have access to heavy and high tech weapons. But they also know that we have far more guns than them. There are well over 400 million weapons in the US (maybe 500 or 600 million) and they have only 3 or 4 percent of them. And it doesn’t take an AK to pose a threat to them. A guy with a handgun could take down several agents during the chaos of a gun battle … especially a battle taking place in urban terrain.
That’s right, this won’t be a nice set piece with UNIPARTY forces marching in columns towards MAGA forces in columns on open fields. It would be a guerrilla war fought on ground more familiar to the guerillas. In other words, cities. A battle fought in and amongst the homes and apartments of the UNIPARTY’s family members. The families of UNIPARTY *soldiers* are not going to be safe in far away England. They know that too.
They also know that they are dependent on us for EVERYTHING. Food. Water. Power. Sanitation. Transportation. Etc. Etc. EVERYTHING. And that includes the sycophants in the mainstream and social media. They too are dependent on us and we know who they are. Many of us probably know where they are, as well. And there’s nothing they can do about that vulnerability at this time. They’re not already living behind walls in defended compounds like their buddies in China are or their friend in the Soviet Union did.
So if push comes to shove, DC will soon be in the dark without power, food supplies coming in, sewage being treated, air and subway transportation, etc etc. Mainstream media will be off the air. They internet may be down, And there is nowhere that the UNIPARTY elite and their families can go to hide for very long without someone amongst us finding out. So when a large crowd of MAGA supporters show up to openly oppose FBI and DOJ thugs doing misdeeds, with the threat of MAGA guns lingering in the background needing only a spark to see them used, THAT is what they’ll be thinking about.
Like I said, this is a war of intimidation and we need to do some of that to win this.
“-There are any number of perfectly functional English speaking democracies with non corrupt ballots. Australia, NZ, UK….etc ….all you do is no computer voting , mail ins are applied for with ID and sent to an address and returned to a booth or by mail, no drop boxes, one person one ballot paper, mark the ballot with a pen or pencil, all party scrutineers observe the count at all times, chain of custody is simply normal procedure”
Australia, NZ and UK are all controlled by Fabian Socialists. That being the case, I question whether their election systems are as free and fair as you believe. But in any case, you aren’t proposing anything that hasn’t already been proposed by Trump and MAGA movement … AND REJECTED by the still controlling UNIPARTY. And there’s the rub.
“The US isn’t up to it because the US didn’t think of it. A common “US exceptionalism” problem.”
LOL! More and more I get the feeling that you might not even be an American citizen. Maybe your from one of those Fabian Socialist dominated countries. You certainly are mouthing the same distain for the US we’ve heard incessantly from the left and citizens of other countries. But again, you’re wrong anyway. We had a system like you described. The Fabian Socialists of the American UNIPARTY destroy it over the last 100 years. How exactly do you propose to get it back with the Fabian Socialist still in control?
“-What have US elections got to do with them “coming for your guns”. That’s impossible, refer SCOTUS judgements upholding the 2nd.”
My goodness, if you aren’t a UNIPARTY plant on this forum, you’re utterly naive. There is good reason to doubt the conservative credentials of several SCOTUS members. And the SCOTUS doesn’t operate in a vacuum. They know that trying to do away with the 2nd Amendment, as long as millions of people like me might oppose that, would be spark that could trigger what I describe above. But dishearten enough MAGA supporters … convince to do nothing no matter what’s done to them … like you’re trying to do, and then they might show their colors … and the 2nd Amendment would be gone.
Also, expanding the Supreme Court and stacking it with leftist appointees has been openly proposed by the democRATS. If the UNIPARTY remains in control, you can’t rely on the Supreme Court continuing to defend the 2nd Amendment. Not when hostile crowds are allowed by the UNIPARTY to gather on the lawns of the homes of Supreme Court members. They are only human after all, and they have families to protect. Such is the power of intimidation … a weapon you’re trying to convince us to forego.
“-You of course must change the goal posts because you got done over.
This has nothing to do with Biden’s fraudulent win…it’s about many Republicans not supporting Trump in the primaries and your attempt to run away from that.”
Me, change the goal posts? LOL! For the record, I didn’t “run away” from your claim that many Republicans are not supporting Trump. No, I directly challenged that claim with facts and logic. Remember you claimed that there are as many “other than Trump” Republicans as there are Trump Republicans, and also claimed that democRATS are HALF the electorate. Well, speaking of “childish” math, both cannot be true … not when Trump got almost as many *official* votes in 2020 as Biden (81 million versus 74 million) and Biden cheated . It is you who ran way from those facts … now pretending like you never said it.
And I think what I said about the primaries is quite valid. So far, Trump endorsed candidates have won 179 to 16 … or 92% of the time. Quite impossible if “other than Trump” voters are half the Republican electorate and democRATS are allowed to vote in Republican primaries. And most of those contests were not won by just 1% like you claim. Let’s look at the facts again. Here’s are the votes totals for the various Trump endorsed candidates (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/comprehensive-look-trumps-endorsement-record ) who won in elections contested by a UNIPARTY or “other than Trump” candidate, just going down the list …
Mike Rogers, Alabama’s 3rd Congressional District – 82% of the vote.
Katie Britt, Alabama Senate – 65% of the vote.
Sarah Palin, Alaska at-large congressional district – 29%, nearest opponent 19%.
Sarah Sanders, Arkansas governor – 83% of the vote.
Tim Griffin, Arkansas attorney general – 86% of the vote.
Rick Crawford, Arkansas’s 1st Congressional District – 73% of the vote.
John Boozman, Arkansas Senate – 58%, nearest opponent 20%.
Kari Lake, Arizona governor – 48%, nearest opponent by 43%.
Mark Finchem, Arizona secretary of state – 41%, nearest opponent 24.5%.
Eri Crane, Arizona’s 2nd Congressional District – 34%, nearest opponent 24%.
Paul Gosar, Arizona’s 9th Congressional District – 64%, nearest opponent 14%.
Blake Masters, Arizona Senate – 39%, nearest opponent 29%.
I’ll not bore everyone with the rest of the details they already know. The picture is clear. Mill is blowing smoke … AGAIN. I think I proved my point. It’s pretty evident now that Mill is not what he pretends to be on this forum. He is not a “Don” or MAGA supporter, like he pretends. He’s a UNIPARTY Never Trumper or a democRAT UNIPARTY plant sent her to degrade our resolve. He might even be a Fabian supporter from another country.
“I have to stop engaging with fools and will do that right now.”
LOL! Now why did I know that was coming? 🙂
Hey Mill, maybe you should read this …
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/08/15/the_fbi_is_now_the_federal_bureau_of_intimidation_148044.html
Intimidation is more effective than you clearly think.
Or maybe you don’t think it’s a problem because … well … you’re on the FBI’s side.
Just saying …
“100,000 armed Trump supporters on the streets.”
When a peaceful protest of even a dozen people hasn’t been accomplished ?
“When a peaceful protest of even a dozen people hasn’t been accomplished ?”
First of all that’s a false statement. And second, when do you draw the line? Never?
Hope you enjoyed 1984. You may get to live it?
That is true.
As a Canadian with no real stake in the game.
Taking to the streets for President Trump would be easy to do.
Having attended two PDJT rallies in Washington St. In 2016.
The support for your President is almost surreal.
Cheers!
PDJT often said something to the effect “I caught them all. The lovers Strozk and Lisa Page. Oh Peter, will you stop him.? Yes Lisa my dear, I will stop him. And Comey too. I caught them all and no other President could have done that.”
So, could THIS finally be leading up to the great reveal?
Is this the set-up that VSG PDJT started teeing up years ago?
The answer is no, obviously. Ask yourself these question, who would be doing the “reveal” ? What would be the format ? what media would be used ?
Truth Social, Rally, etc..
That’s a “reveal” to the choir.
cool
Which means only 10% of the public will see it.
7% more of the public than Twitter…excellent.
Yes, but a clear narrative from The Don has to emerge quickly.
If he “mass” declassified documents , say so loudly, don’t cloud that with peripheral issues.
Say it at every opportunity.
If The Don has blanket approval to look at anything because he retains his presidential security clearance, say so loudly and repeatedly.
If these matters are the typical trivial pretend “top secret” (most are) say so.
If the raid broke legal rules in the search scope etc…say so…Joe Sixpack still gets his information from 60 second bites on the nightly tv news… to my eternal amazement.
Before you think that there will be justice in this matter.
Consider that there is a sitting congressman, on the House Intelligence Committee, that had/has a relationship with a Chinese spy, farts for the tv camera, and still has his committee membership, still has his job, and spends his time on Twitter trolling us.
He is connected to the EU royal family as well. One of his best friends in California is married to the family.
So it’s not just communist Chinese Spies he is taking orders from, it’s also the British Crown.
“The Justice Department also subpoenaed surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago recorded over a 60-day period, including views from outside the storage room”
This article finally cleared up my red faced overreaction yesterday to the Hagerman/Kelly tweet about the subpoena to cover the acquisition of 60 days of MAL video. The tweet did not clearly mention the time frame of the subpoena (or I’m an idiot) so I thought it was a newly released subpoena to confiscate the recordings of the abominable raid on “Donald’s and Melania’s home.”
There is arguably nothing more sacred and important than a family’s home and feeling reasonably safe and secure in it. A raid on anybody’s home should only be done for exceptional and life threatening circumstances. If there are any honest and wise judges left in the USA, the FBI should be sanctioned and even charged for this egregious abuse. Impeachments in the Senate were not enough for these demented miscreants. Now that PDJT is a private citizen, the frothing FBI goons were eager to attack his home.
Given the reality of this home invasion, Gov. DeSantis’ tepid response was far below the minimum requirement to defend any Florida resident whose 4th Amendment rights were not honored by the politically corrupt FBI. However, he must win the next election so it’s a Catch 22 IMO.
What makes you think they won’t have mail in ballots? they will. also, now that they have a blueprint AND they no they can do whatever they want without repercussions they’ll just up the illegal efforts 100 fold
Got to vote and go through an election – to make the Steal Obvious to more people.
part of the process.
I agree, if there is no accountability for the first one why change the second one? In fact, go legit on the second one is an admission the first one was a fraud.
The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.
Regular law-abiding folks of modest means like me that publicly oppose the government’s unlawful expansion of power and control over it’s citizens in violation of the expressed limitations imposed on our government by the Constitution are now being labeled as dangerous domestic extremists.
We are now considered a threat to the same government that is openly ignoring it’s own limited role in our daily lives.
Simply because we dared to point out the government’s own lawlessness.
This deliberate act of hostility the government is waging against it’s own citizens is designed to intimidate anyone that refuses to accept the legitimacy of the government’s latest Illegal power grab.
The all powerful government not only has the ability,
but recently they have demonstrated their complete willingness to use our justice system as their personal weapon of mass destruction.
They can now completely destroy any innocent Americans lives at will.
They don’t even pretend anymore that there are any legal requirements that were in the past considered a necessity whenever the government wanted the courts written permission to violate the civil rights of any American citizen.
Such as the expectation of privacy the Constitution is supposed to protect, especially if the civil rights being violated belong to targets the government has already publicly declared as its political enemies.
Or what about the government’s burden of proof that was at one time considered important and necessary before the government was granted a warrant to violate a citizens civil protections?
Is the government’s burden of proof still thing that is supposed to be satisfied with eyewitness testimony or legally obtained evidence that supports the government’s assertion that a crime really happened and that the crime in question was actually committed by the political targets of the government.
Or do courts now just take the word of the government that a crime was committed by the government’s political enemies like the media enthusiastically does?
(HE DIDN’T WIN! Harry Reed gleefully bragged when he was questioned by a reporter pointing out his intentional lie when Harry publicly declared that Mitt Romney didn’t pay any taxes.)
These details have become irrelevant because the government no longer is concerned in legally obtaining an actual conviction in court before the political target is punished.
For the government’s political enemies,
it’s the PROCESS that has become the preferred PUNISHMENT.
They are using the process as a tool for maintaining and protecting the uniparty’s sacred prime directive of always expanding and then preserving the uniparty’s power at any cost.
Proving that the uniparty no longer fears any pushback or consequences for their blatant lawless behavior.
Why should they?
Strongly worded letters written by compromised politicians have proven to be just as toothless as their geriatric authors.
There are some people of great wealth and status who have publicly suffered unimaginable pain and financial loss inflicted by the government machine.
Eventually, those victims likely will be vindicated quietly in the courts many years later, when nobody is paying attention to the outcomes of the past manufactured scandals that were promptly replaced by new manufactured scandals once the old manufactured scandals potential for maximum damage to the government’s political targets has been achieved.
These past scandals are then promptly delegated to the publics very large and very deep memory hole.
Their tactics work!
To this day, I still know people who honestly believe that PRESIDENT TRUMP is an agent of Russia no matter how much proof I provide them contrary to the lies they were told.
They still have never been told otherwise by the same government assets in the media that lied to them hourly for 5 years straight with breaking news and bombshell reports from unnamed sources familiar with the matter being delivered with breathless anticipation on how “the walls were finally closing in on Donald Trump’s Presidency, his family, his businesses and yes, even his entire world.”
(Let’s go to our panel.)
We have all witnessed this modern day example of the government’s punishment, and the real costs involved for anyone who faithfully took an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.
We have seen what happens to some very successful business executives from the private sector who’s only crime was that they offered their specific skillsets free of charge.
The uniparty objected because there was a chance he might be successful helping our government fix the country’s broken economy just in case the credit for another victory would be given to PRESIDENT TRUMP.
The uniparty eventually used the courts to make sure that no good dead that benefited the citizens of the country went unpunished.
It is obvious to me that our government has declared a personal war against SOME of it’s own people, and our chosen way of life.
The government’s terms are simple, we can either choose to live on our knees and like it or we are free to die on our feet.
This is a war they must NEVER be allowed to win.
The government needs to create these public examples that they can later use as demonstrations of just what happens when someone dares to publicly disagree with the uniparty’s destructive agenda that always serves the governments WANTS at the expense of it’s citizens NEEDS.
They no longer feel the need to hide their evil deeds in the shadows while publicly proclaiming how much they respect or fear the wrath of the governed.
Because they don’t.
I do believe that if we allow them to succeed in in their publicly stated goal of depriving us of our ability of picking our own leaders AGAIN in 2024.
There won’t be another chance in 2028.
Many people believe and advocate that it would be so much easier for our side to just surrender to the uniparty, and for the sake of getting along, bypartisanship and that suicidal tradition of our side always getting screwed under the guise of participating in the uniparties one sided compromises.
For the sake of keeping the peace we are told that we should let THEM pick who THEY want leading us from the white house AGAIN!
I remember being told by the uniparty that I should listen to the uniparties very wise and very old guard because THEY had the experience necessary that I was lacking,
only THEY had the ability to understand what goals and promises were realistically possible, and that those reckless outsiders that spoke like me, believed the things that I believed, those people that I liked and wanted to support would eventually cost us (the uniparty) the election, possibly even their seats in the congress that they claimed we desperately needed to maintain as a last resort for some invisible check and balance that they would supposedly use to halt the “other parties ambitions” at the right moment.
I was also informed that it was quite possible that my wrong vote could even lead to the end of our country!
They said that we would just be handing the democrats the election on a silver platter unless we shut up, held our noses and blindly supported THEIR wisely chosen candidates who had faithfully served the uniparty for decades, because it was now their turn at the helm.
Unelectable People like Bob Dole,
he who shall not be named and Pierre Delecto to name a few.
They all surprisingly Lost their flawed elections because of the intentional uniparty’s design of never being held accountable for anything they do.
I will never turn my back on anyone who has lost as much as our champion, PRESIDENT TRUMP has.
Now as the attacks on him continue to escalate, the government doesn’t appear to have ANY lines remaining that they won’t cross.
Desperate people, do desperate things.
I am worried that the uniparty’s willingness to sacrifice our constitutional protections from the government while they are systematically redefining what the Constitution and being an American citizen actually means at the exact same moment they are replacing our acceptable societal norms with utter nonsense that they created in someone’s re-imagined
little world that never requires any foundation in reality.
As the uniparty becomes more and more desperate to win at all costs.
They now appear to be willing to make this next election a zero sum game by completely destroying everything and ANYONE that doesn’t conform, If they can’t have their way.
Their official actions confirm to me that they are already preparing to make sure they leave behind an intentionally broken country that can’t be fixed during the next couple of terms.
The uniparty is not only able, but now they are more than willing to use the government’s unlimited resources in our court system, NOT in the interest that justice be served.
No!
With a wink and a nod from the officials in the courts they knowingly conspire as they abuse the justice system so they can bankrupt and destroy the lives of their political opposition, no matter how many years they have to drag it out.
They have openly adopted a company policy of zero tolerance for anyone being accused of publicly or privately committing the only unpardonable sin we seem to have remaining in our body politic today.
That unforgivable act of wanting to Make America Great Again.
GOD help us
Essentially all true.
Now reconcile that with the depressing fact that although Trump endorsed candidates won many (R) primaries they did it with very small margins from (R) primary voters.
The (R) party is in reality half UniParty and many “Republicans” like it that way.
because primaries do not matter. and defeating PDJT selected people helps make the narrative he is WEAK going forward.
WEAK as in the D is stronger, not the R. the R is chosen to be weak. Midterms will be the next time to see.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/14/sunday-talks-adam-schiff-claims-he-has-seen-no-evidence-that-president-trump-declassified-documents-a-ridiculous-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-9083448
I suggest people read that comment above and give it consideration. (do the effort, read it, then flush it if its garbage)
Sorry, that’s incoherent for silly ‘ol me.
Seems obvious, however, the country is approximately 50% Democrat voters, 25% UniParty Republicans who prefer some “Republican” other than Trump and 25% Trump voters. With Biden’s record the Democrats will be wiped out at midterms, not just lose 20 seats. The Don has always relied on Reagan Democrats, and so he will in 2024.
“Seems obvious, however, the country is approximately 50% Democrat voters, 25% UniParty Republicans who prefer some “Republican” other than Trump and 25% Trump voters.”
The only thing that statement makes obvious is that you are a democRAT shill pretending to be a Trump supporter.
Right……. your response to the numbers means you have no rational response
So you really think Biden got 81 million votes? LOL!
No, I think Trump supporters in the Republican primaries got approximately 50% of the Republican vote….and so would you if you could count.
You said that “the country is approximately 50% Democrat voters”. In which case, adding the Trump and “other than Trump” republicans should be the other 50% of the country’s vote. The *math* you now offer leads to the conclusion there are almost twice as many Republican voters as democRAT voters. Make up your mind.
Oh dear.
What????
“adding the Trump and “other than Trump” republicans should be the other 50% of the country’s vote.
Errr….they are. What don’t you understand?
I blame the grade school maths syllabus.
“What????
“adding the Trump and “other than Trump” republicans should be the other 50% of the country’s vote.
Errr….they are. What don’t you understand?”
How that could be true it Trump got as many (or more) votes as Biden with half the republicans not voting for Trump. Did YOUR grade school math class answer that?
“The *math* you now offer leads to the conclusion there are almost twice as many Republican voters as democRAT .”
I’d be fascinated ……. and amused to hear how.
There are approx 50% Dem voters in the USA, there approx 25% ‘other Republican ‘voters in the USA and there are approx 25% trump supporting voters in the USA.
Makes 100% unless Miss Smith didn’t do her job in 2nd grade….
ME – “The *math* you now offer leads to the conclusion there are almost twice as many Republican voters as democRAT .”
YOU – “I’d be fascinated ……. and amused to hear how.
There are approx 50% Dem voters in the USA, there approx 25% ‘other Republican ‘voters in the USA and there are approx 25% trump supporting voters in the USA.
Makes 100% unless Miss Smith didn’t do her job in 2nd grade….”
LOL! Ok, let’s do some simple math.
A = the number of votes Biden “officially” got in 2020 = 81 million.
B = the number of votes Trump got = 74 million.
Now we both agree, don’t we, that Biden didn’t actually get than many votes and Trump got more. So for accuracy’s sake, let’s just say A = B. Following along so far, Mill?
Now you say A = 50% of the electorate.
And that B = 25% of the electorate … since the other 25% didn’t vote for Trump. Right?
See the problem … or did your Miss Smith teach you progressive math where 25% = 50%?
The small margins of victory are irrelevant in those states that needed to tinker with the rules.
Why would a party that truly wanted to win the general allow libtards to participate in the partys own primaries?
Same question for the partys that watered down the effects of their own members by allowing the rank voting scheme that usually results in a libtard running against another libtard in the general.
See California for data
Remembering that the official partys are privately owned entities that control the rules of their party as well as who is acceptable to participate is helpful.
They get to decide the final”choices” we are allowed to select from.
I am watching rohnna Delecto closely for her to use the jan 6th scam as an excuse when she quietly forgets to include the name PRESIDENT TRUMP on just enough official gen election ballots in her uniparty sanctioned task designed to leave us just marginally shy of our pending victory.
That seems accurate enough to me.
Despite you avoiding the fact that a large number of (R) primary voters did not vote for Trump candidates.
I would have thought that is not ideal.
The US is a strange place ….only country in the world that allows opposition voters to pick the other parties candidate
Have you ever voted in china or north Korea?
American elections are demonstrably rigged too.
Luckily, our elections still come with a small side order of illusion.
“Have you ever voted in china or north Korea?”
Errr….what has Democrats being allowed by Republicans to vote in Republican primaries to do with voting in China??
“Errr….what has Democrats being allowed by Republicans to vote in Republican primaries”
Just to be clear, it’s not Republicans who allow democRATS to vote in our primaries. It’s RINO members of the UNIPARTY who have recently made that possible. Just one of the gradual, stealthy, deceptive changes the Fabian Socialist UNIPARTY has made to ensure we all end up living in the equivalent of Communist China.
The bigger issue, however, is UNIPARTY cheating in both the primaries and general election. Very little has been done to fix the problem since the realization that it happened big time in 2020. There have been signs of it in some of the Republican primaries so far this year.
And even if Trump gets a 100 million legitimate votes in 2024, the UNIPARTY candidate will likely get a 101 million or 11o million (thanks to cheating) and declare victory … which all the democRAT/UNIPARTY controlled institutions of government and the media will accept. They will have illegally “installed” their candidate so I’m curious, would you consider that invalid by law? If so, what would be your recourse? NOTHING? Or something to do with the Second Amendment?
Ok. So your position is that without RINO manipulation of the (R) primary vote The Don gets what? 80% of the vote….pick a number and defend it.
Nice Strawman, Mill. I think it’s clear to readers by now that you don’t want to answer any of the quite reasonable questions I’ve asked you on this thread. Which leads me to conclude that you are not MAGA. You are PRETENDING to support Trump and then backstabbing him by trying to disillusion MAGA voters so that they don’t vote in 2022/2024 and do nothing as the UNIPARTY destroys the MAGA movement. Prove me wrong.
” would you consider that invalid by law? If so, what would be your recourse? NOTHING?
Your fantasies can change nothing without a 1776 style revolution…..the whole structure gone. You think you overthrow a govt with guns then settle down to another election?
🙂
Good luck, you are too silly to continue this.
Notice, folks, how he avoided the question, folks … AGAIN?
Beware of him.
BRAVO! Well put, Mike in a Van. Very well put.
The warrant cites 18 U.S.C. §§ 793, 2071, 1519. None of the statutes depend on classification status. The phrase “including the following” introduces a list of example components of the set previously specified. The example components’ classification status is immaterial and diversionary.
Striking the warrant’s references to classification, this is what remains:
All physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 793, 2071, or 1519, including the following (for example):
a. Any physical documents, along with any containers/boxes (including any other contents) in which such documents are located, as well as any other containers/boxes that are collectively stored or found together with the aforementioned documents and containers/boxes;
b. Information, including communications in any form, regarding the retrieval, storage, or transmission of national defense information;
c. Any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017, and January 20, 2021; or
d. Any evidence of the knowing alteration, destruction, or concealment of any government and/or Presidential Records.
In other words: everything. “Everything” does not particularly describe the things to be seized.
DESTROY THEM by using their screw ups to end the system.
for example.
get people to start saying “Is this the new way we do warrants with the 4th amendment? We just say everything inside that house or vehicle or on that person?”
I’ve got to be honest my anger and frustration meter are off the scale. Hearing Sundance say to relax and why has calmed me down immensely. I’m praying that these events against Trump will eventually be overcome by We The People. Stay informed and stay strong fellow Treepers.
From NY Times Article above: “Mr. Trump returned 15 boxes of material in January of this year. When archivists examined the material, they found many pages of documents with classified markings and referred the matter to the Justice Department, which began an investigation and convened a grand jury.”
As stated yesterday, Classification and Declassification of materials is a multiple step process even if performed by the President of the US that includes; declaration of classification or declassification by the classifying authority and proper MARKING of Documents. In this case President Trump declassified documents but somebody FAILED to correctly MARK them. It is even possible the document cover sheet is also not properly completed. The reason documents have to be PROPERLY Marked is just for this situation …. “nobody” was aware of the President declassifying anything in those “15 boxes”, that will be the claim by the archives and if the cover sheet is not correctly completed their claim will stand as unchangeable truth.
This is a problem no matter if people smoking hopium want to recognize the fact or not.
The DoJ and FBI can spin this technical error into a felony … without proper marking s and correctly completed coversheet, there is zero proof of declassification. There is NO proof the “standing order by President Trump” was applied to these documents without proper Markings. This is classified material handling 101 being applied.
Comparing to any other President and Hillary is useless.
President Trump’s staff made a MAJOR mistake and let the President down in a BIG WAY, by not ensuring the documents were marked properly.
This is the crux of the predicate being used for the wide open warrant.
We don’t know what is in those 15 boxes. It could be material relating to his lawsuit against Clinton, DNC, et al. The lawsuit involves Crossfire Hurricane and the Russia hoax.
It was reported in October 2020 “I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!” – foxnews.com/politics/trump-authorizes-declassification-of-all-russia-collusion-hillary-clinton-email-probe-documents
In January 2021 materials relating to Crossfire Hurricane were declassified.- federalregister.gov/documents/2021/01/25/2021-01717/declassification-of-certain-materials-related-to-the-fbis-crossfire-hurricane-investigation
Prove that a single classified document in those boxes was covered by President Trump’s order. That is one of the major reasons for MARKINGS, to document the classification decision(s).
President Trump did not dispute the contents.
TOPIC of the documents is IMMATERIAL. Classified is Classified until something on that document says otherwise.
This is potentially a major problem.
All I’m saying is we don’t know what is in those boxes. Maybe it’s actually declassified, maybe not. The president is not the person who physically places the markings.
IT DOES NOT MATTER what the presidnt may have thought or the order states … without proper markings and cover sheet there is ZERO proof the order was applied to these document. That is a major purpose of MARKINGS. The folksat thea rchives can rightly if not easily claim to have no knowledge of the President’s Standing Order.
Then the FBI and DoJ correctly fall back on markings that are supposed document the the classification level.
Nobody is questioning the order … the problem is proof the order was applied to these documents.
And that is, as you pointed out in another post, an administrative issue.
It can easily be argued by the FBI that the documents were not covered by the order. There is no proof. The order is NOT ENOUGH. Even the President has to complete the full process of classification and declassification to document the fact.
Being administrative could easily can be argued if there is a correctly completed cover sheet and/or a log entry can be found.
The order is enough. A record that the order was given suffices. A president’s authority does not derive from statute, a president does not need to follow a statutory process.
OK, prove to whom he delegated the responsibility or sub-receipted the documents.
If Donald Trump is the party listed on the receipt for the documents and boxes, then HE IS RESPONSIBLE for the proper markings. Again, classified material handling 101.
I lived and breathed this stuff for over 33 years, including: creating and managing 1,000’s of documents, a classified computer system, classified stand-alone safes as well as a classified room. I participated in over 40 hours of related training each of those 33 years that included exams. Plus, I was inspected by DoD and FBI each of the 33 years. I also saw colleagues walked to the door, as in being fired for infractions, and at least 2 underwent further legal actions before being let go.
Neither you or I can prove anything.
Without declass proof, NEITHER CAN PDJT.
” The president is not the person who physically places the markings.”
It does NOT MATTER who placed the paper in the box.
The ONLY thing that matters is PROOF of declassification.
The ONLY PROOF is PROPER DECLASS MARKINGS.
When an order is given it is expected to be followed. The person who failed to follow orders is who is responsible.
NO. The guy in POSSESSION of non-declass docs is who they’ll charge. Not the DOJ for failing to declass. Not Meadows for not making sure DOJ declassed.
POSSESSION is the key.
You’re assuming the documents have not been declassified.
This entire thread is nothing but speculation. We don’t know anything about the contents of the boxes.
The only mitigation may be if the document appears in a log and the declassification is captured in the log, as it is supposed to captured. This would essentially move the issue to be a correctable error and administrative violation.
Mistake or on purpose? I’m going for $200 ON PURPOSRE. And that on purpose person waited until now, before midterms to rat on Trump.
“This is a problem no matter if people smoking hopium want to recognize the fact or not. The DoJ and FBI can spin this technical error into a felony … without proper marking s and correctly completed coversheet, there is zero proof of declassification. There is NO proof the “standing order by President Trump” was applied to these documents without proper Markings. This is classified material handling 101 being applied.”
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ANYONE PAYING >ATTENTION< TO WHAT thedoc00 SAID!?!? Anyone at ALL!?! Because this is >HUGE<!!!
There is NO proof the “standing order by President Trump” was NOT applied to these documents either.
There might be proof the “standing orders” did NOT apply. Here’s how.
In late 2020 (Oct, it seems) Mark Meadows, Trump’s former Chief of Staff, told a judge that Trump DID NOT DECLASSIFY everything pertaining to the Russia hoax, but only SOME THINGS.
Furthermore, a judge asked Miller to ask Trump to clarify his (Trump’s) tweets about declassification:
https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2020/10/16/judge-orders-that-trump-be-asked-about-declassification-tweets-in-mueller-info-fight/?slreturn=20220714204440
FTA
Judge Orders That Trump Be Asked About Declassification Tweets in Mueller Info Fight“I think the American public has a right to rely upon what the president says about what his intent is,” U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton said.
October 16, 2020 at 12:44 PM
Not sure I trust Mark Meadows. At all.
Well, that’s why I posted the Tweet. Meadow’s isn’t to be trusted.
If there were mistakes, why wasn’t it just sorted out at the time and corrects on the spot? Well we all know the answer to that.
Common Sense
Trump says “it was all declassified”. How many times have you seen a president declassify information. In any form you care to think about. Need a reminder, “Obama was caught on a hot mic (live mic) telling Russian President Dmitry Medvedev the truth: He’ll have more flexibility on security issues AFTER he wins reelection. He did not stop the conversation and say, let me run this through the declassification process. How about the time Obama and Hillary Clinton were having the running conversation on unsecured public internet. Obama had time to follow the declassification process.
Now, let’s get real. The declassification process would not exist without the president’s approval. It would not continue to exist without the president’s approval. So if Obama can walk out of the White House with a reported 33,000 classified documents and not be held accountable. Then what is the FBI’s/DOJ’s beef with President Trump?
Most of the 74 million plus voters represented by President Trump believe the FBI/DOJ is more concerned over who are the target of these documents.
Everyone knows by now that the continued existence of FBI/DOJ based upon their performance is in question.
Bla bla bla … Comrade Obama did this , Hillary did that, Bush II failed here … the issue at hand is President Trump improperly handling CLASSIFIED Materials.
Re-read the following from the article above. There is ZERO proof if these documents were covered by President Trump’s “Standing Order” if the documents ARE NOT MARKED as such and even worse if the cover sheet of the document does not have declassification statement as well as date.
This is really enough to create and spin a major issue. President Trump’s staff let him down big time … the only question if intentionally or not??
Mr. Trump returned 15 boxes of material in January of this year. When archivists examined the material, they found many pages of documents with classified markings and referred the matter to the Justice Department, which began an investigation and convened a grand jury.o
Oh, you mean the kind of grand jury they have in DC where 95 percent of the voters are Democrats. Where you can get a ham sandwich indicted.
You can continue your efforts at applying double standards or ignoring the facts. But, 74 million plus Americans will continue to think you are wrong. The midterms are coming! The midterms are coming!
740 BILLION could think he’s wrong and it wouldn’t matter. The ONLY things that matter are:
A. Whether or not PROOF EXISTS the documents were PROPERLY declassed.
B. WHAT A D.C. JURY THINKS, and they’d convict even if G-d Himself said PDJT was innocent.
You are going to learn the word exempt. The President and his staff are exempt!
What you’re saying contradicts what “thedoc00” said just above your post. Please show us the statutes defining the declassification process as you described it. Here’s what thedoc00 has to say on the subject; and it comports with others who’ve said the same thing:
“This is a problem no matter if people smoking hopium want to recognize the fact or not. The DoJ and FBI can spin this technical error into a felony … without proper marking s and correctly completed coversheet, there is zero proof of declassification. There is NO proof the “standing order by President Trump” was applied to these documents without proper Markings. This is classified material handling 101 being applied.”
Here is just one example. They are called witnesses! 6 of them!
Kash Patel, former National Security Prosecutor, reacts to the FBI raid of President Trump’s home and offices at Mar-a-lago earlier this week and offers a defense that Trump could have ‘verbally declassified the documents’ while he was President. Patel comments, that the the President by law is the ultimate arbiter, as a classification authority. If he says it, it’s declassified. He doesn’t need to go through the bureaucratic rigmarole, written down in appropriate style, that’s not what the Constitution says.” Commenting, that he recalls on number occasions, “not only did President do it by writing in October of 2020, he did it verbally, multiple times in the White House, whole sets of documents.” Patel comments, that anyone who says that Trump needs the signature of the White House counsel or permission to declassify documents, “that’s a farce.”
https://art19.com/shows/john-solomon-reports/episodes/657f59f9-7f49-4e99-9e0b-1846d2ed64b5
The DOJ could only find a shady magistrate judge to sign this illegal warrant. It is inevitable that this case will eventually be heard by the 11th Circuit who will hopefully put a stop to the DOJ’s tyranny.
This was discussed when the story of the raid first broke. My recollection may be wrong but as I recall the way this warrant was prepared … the case will be heard in the DC Federal Court and NOT the 11th.
The magistrate from Florida was included as a matter process. This magistrate was selected because there would be NO questions asked, before signing. Any other Magistrate from the Florida district would have asked allot of questions and wanted clarifications … may still have been signed the DoJ would had to defend the warrant in a recorded meeting.
I believe we will prevail in November, and then it’s curtains for a lot of them.
IT’S NOW CLEAR…….TIM McVEIGH PICKED THE WRONG TARGET….
He bombed a daycare, slaughtering 19 tiny children. He was evil.
A. He didn’t know there was a day care there. It was a terrible loss of innocent lives.
B. FBI and BATFE slaughtered 75 innocent Americans at Waco, including 25 children.
C. McVeigh was the only American to take the fight to the enemy.
D. Go lecture someone else, not me.
“He bombed a daycare, slaughtering 19 tiny children.”
” He didn’t know there was a day care there.”
Modern America…….
Justice Department Accused of Taking Attorney-Client Material at Mar-a-Lago
https://jonathanturley.org/2022/08/14/justice-department-accused-of-taking-attorney-client-material-at-mar-a-lago/
There were car/truck rallies in several places today. Those need to expand and expand and expand.
Bush Executive Order 13292 on Classified National Security Information
If you read it, Trump and Pence were not subject to the marking requirements. Trump could declassify at will. Although that means Biden could do the same, Biden’s risk is a criminal charge of obstruction because his reclassifying the Russia Gate scandal documents as it would be an attempt to prevent prosecution of his supporters and in particular Jake Sullivan, Susan Rice and Hillary Clinton.
Nice try …. Executive Order 12958 and the amendments incorporated into it, including Executive Order 13292, were revoked by President Barack Obama in the issuance of Executive Order 13526.
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👊👊👊👊 UltraMAGA 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
An important issue is that the average Joe Blutts does not realize our Constitutional government was overthrown for a Totalitarian government. The media has not informed the public.
However, there are more people starting to realize it to be the case. The “Bad Guys” are not dealing with the same public as a year ago. Also, the people are not as naive and gullible as they were a year ago. It’s interesting what $5-gas and checkout at the grocery store will do to you.
Thanks SD. I need to hear from you that you think they will fail. We must win in 2022 and 2024 with President Trump.
The reason we cannot see the affidavit yet is because they have not yet decided on the crime. Some court needs to force that judge to produce it. I am beginning to doubt there was one.
Can someone create t-shirts in support of Tam Outt?
T – ThereA – areM – more
O – of U – us, T – than T – them.
ICYMI: in his latest article, “They Can’t Let Him Back In,” Michael Anton outlines the left’s 6-tiered plan to keep DJT out of the White House. Spoiler: If all else fails, they plan to take it to the streets. Compact Magazine, July 28.
TURLEY:
Attorney General Garland’s stature shrinks as he doggedly pursues Trump
Attorney General Merrick Garland seemed largely reactive and rote in dealing with questions over bias or abuse in his department.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2022/08/14/mar-a-lago-fbi-trump-search-merrick-garland/10311231002/?gnt-cfr=1
Whether Garland’s stature shrinks or stinks is of no concern to the 100 million MAGA supporters. It’s what the evil reptile is going to do next that should be the concern.
All one can see when looking at AG Garland is a bitter old man who has no business being anywhere in a position of authority. His bitterness has brought shame upon the office he holds and those who work under him.
All one can see when looking at AG Garland is a bitter old man …
Nailed it!
Is Mr Garland any relation of that other little fart – America’s Doctor(sarc) Fauci?
Asking for a friend as they seem to have similar looks and characteristics.
Yes, he’s bitter about being blocked from SCOTUS, but that’s what the Dems WANT! They want to harness that bitterness and anger, so they can go after their enemies. The Trump raid is but the most recent manifestation of that.
agree but “those who work under him” have plenty of shame of their own.
It is not within the talents of the “liberal” (Democrat-Fascist) mind to LEAD or to administer authority. They can make movies, write books, poems, and music, create art of all forms. They are superb liars and stumble when forced to chose between right and wrong, true or false. They are a needed and unavoidable branch of humanity, but they must be kept far away from power.
The AG office has been shameful at least since Eric “wingman” Holder defiled it with obozo’s fast and furious gun running criminal scheme.
What a pathetic parade: Holder, Lynch, Sessions, Barr, and now Garland.
Garland is the latest display of an authoritarian playing the hurt victim of misunderstood motives. Trudeau is a master of this. Hollywood coaches have taught them that the shouting dictatorial image doesn’t work, but the “I have to do this to save our democracy” line does for a few.
Captain Queeg.
Hope I spelled it correctly.
Read it a long, long time ago.
The Caine Mutiny; and some missing strawberries ,if i remember correctly.
“Mr. Roberts”,….. The Captain (Cagney): “Mr. Roberts, You get up here On The Double,… I mean On The Double, Mister!”
Later awarded “The Order of the Palm” by the Crew.
Turley is one of these painfully judicious voices on the right lol. Eek! A shrunken reputation. Say it ain’t so Jonathan!
“If you don’t quit beating my wife, I’m going to have to think the worst of you, including questioning my once-high estimation of your reputation. So there!”
How did we acquire so many rhetorical lion hearts?