This is exactly what many people predicted would happen after the Uvalde school shooting in Texas, and the horrific police response.
With the Uvalde police response fresh on their minds, parents showed up in El Mirage, Arizona after the elementary school was locked down. Apparently, an armed man tried to gain entry to the school. The police were following their lockdown protocols and would not let the arriving parents into the building.
Scuffles with law enforcement began breaking out as desperate parents wanted to protect and save their kids. Subsequently, police opened fire on the parents with tasers then began arresting them.
This is what happens when parents do not trust law enforcement. After the horrific events in Uvalde, where the police just stood around while the kids were being killed, many people asked, ‘what happens next time’? Well, here are the consequences surfacing in Arizona:
Arizona – Several parents were shot with a Taser outside a school in Arizona on Friday while it was under lockdown, police said.
The El Mirage Police Department said in a statement on Facebook that Thompson Ranch Elementary School was placed on lockdown following a report that a male subject had tried to enter the school around 10:30 a.m. with a firearm.
“School staff contacted law enforcement and immediately implemented lockdown protocol,” the post read.
Police said that as law enforcement arrived, the person with the gun fled the premises. During the lockdown, officers began clearing the campus of any threats. A package had arrived on the scene, but it was deemed safe by explosives technicians.
“As officers continued to work on clearing the campus, parents began to arrive on [site] at the school. Several attempted to force entry into the buildings past officers. It was at this time that a male began an altercation with officers. Two other individuals joined in the altercation,” police wrote.
“Officers deployed Tasers, taking the three into custody. One person taken into custody was in possession of a handgun,” they added.
[…] The identities of the parents who were shot with a Taser were not immediately clear. NBC News reported that two of the three parents were shot with a Taser and that all three — two men and one woman — were arrested.
El Mirage police Lt. Jimmy Chavez said one of parents who was shot with a Taser was brought to the hospital to be treated for injuries, according to the network. (read more)
I mean really, can you blame the parents?
The police really need to reevaluate their community protocols accepting that a large number of parents are not going to accept, ‘sit and wait’…
It is the parents versus the civil servant/Bolshevik bureaucrat machine now. Because this incident occured in corrupt Maricopa County, a Democratic Party fiefdom, the parents acted appropriately and a jury must nullify when they go to trial.
The Board of Supervisors foe Maricopa County has four republicans and one democrat. So the pubs are as complicit as the dims. Agree that the parents acted as parents should.
One of those R supervisors told listeners that the R party “needs to lose 2022” to teach them a lesson. He so hates DT that he’d rather the Progs take the election. He was subsequently censored by the other Rs. There’s your party unity. Still holding out electoral hope?
Not 1 bit. I will vote with my bullets when the time comes, it won’t be long now, for Any of us….
It’s about to get real. Decide what side your on and be ready to fight for it.
We are being told something in the same ballpark, on a daily basis by some “Trollpers”.
How is being advised on a DAILY basis to not vote for any RINOs or recommending only voting for MAGAs so much different? Progs will take the next election if people follow this plan.
Firstly, the suggestion starts with recognising that the activity in the poll booth is NOT the sum and total of seriously meeting your obligations and responsibilities in this Republic.
Specifically, since the MAGA movement is NOT going to start its own party, and is going to continue to run as Republicans, the obligation is to put down the gun oil, and get your ass to your local Republican party meeting, align yourself with like minded MAGA patriots, go door to door to recruit more, and then march a MAGA army in, and following THEIR rules, call for a vote and vote the Rinos out of their leadership positions.
And, continue the insurgent march up through the command structure, until the party’s control positions are held by MAGA patriots.
And with THAT control, you can insure MAGA candidates, with NO splitters will be in the primary for you to vote for.
And WIN. Which means you won’t have to make the choice between RINO or DEM which is NO choice, and you won’t be disappointed at PDJT for endorsing a RINO with State R party support, hence $ and an organisation, instead of a MAGA candidate you “like” but that has NO such support.
Frankly, get off your *ss, and get in the fight, instread of mumbling about some variation about how “when the time
comes, YOU’LL be ready to,…well lets face it KILL people.
No idea when (but soon!) no idea WHO (but they’ll be dead!) and NO explanation of what the HELL you think its going to accomplish!
If little to no Republicans vote and progs take the next election it will neutralize the progs pride and glory that this is a democracy and a legitimate government elected by the majority of the people. Cant really maintain that stance when more than half the country has decided this government is not worth participating in. They will also have in the back of their minds that all the citizens that are armed to the teeth are done and fed up and just waiting for them. It will get what’s inevitably coming over with sooner while we have the numbers. The problem is that it would require somewhere around 67% of republicans not voting which will never happen.
That he was censured by the party, is why you SHOULD vote.
And he said;
“The MAGA candidates winning is a DISASTER! WE must make sure the Dems win in November” I think thats the $ quote.
Funny, those who post as the most militant, and suggest this war will come down to 2A, “blood of tyrants and patriots” and all that,…also are encouraging all MAGA patriots to A) sit on their hands and do NOTHING, when the battle is being fought right now,.
B) Do not explain, at all HOW the use if guns is going to “fix” anything, or how that would work.
Kind of like the WEF, holding the PROMISE of a future utopia, that never materialises.
Shoot WHO? CNN?
Our enemies stated goal is to destroy America and depopulate.
WHY would anyone post, on THIS site, comments trying to discourage voting, or political action, and instead encouraging NO action, NO voting and vague, unspecified actions with guns?
Gee,….I wonder
Thanks Dutchman, for putting to words the sentiments that I would not be able to articulate. Lots of Debbie Downers are appearing here lately.
I have already notified next of kin that I anticipate being taken out by an irs agent at my door. THAT’S where the blood of tyrants will be spilled — at the front door.
Agree, Dutchman.
Small victories are being won all over.
How many of the 10 RINOs who voted with Dems for the creation of a House J6 “investigatory” commission have been primaries? 7? 8?
How many fascist school board members have been forced to resign, recant, been ousted by votes?
In Idaho alone (a RINO red state, not a MAGA red state when speaking about our veto-proof state legislature), 20% of state incumbents LOST their primaries to new blood, much of it MAGA.
I don’t know if things will ever devolve to a hot civil war, but I for one want to take every opportunity to field a better team than we currently have in DC, in the state legislature, in the mayoral and city council offices, going into whatever battles that lie ahead. How? Voting, getting involved in local races, helping MAGA candidates, reseeding the state RNC and local precinct chairs with MAGA folks)
We won’t win every battle, but the team is slowly getting better. Going off half-cocked now (pun intended) would be a disaster, IMO.
The Establishment GOP RINOs are just as bad as the Democrats. A base revolt is needed to purge these globalist traitors from the GOP. Only when that is done can the GOP defend the interests of its base voters and be effective.
Foe should have been for, but in true context, they are the foe.
RINOS
One “Republican” who has been censured by the Party, so doesn’t really count.
All four should be censured, fired, drawn and quartered. I suppose a trial and guilty verdict, for you sticklers at ‘following the law’,.(eyeroll).
Reduced government payrolls and scope is the best, most important cure, not which predator is in charge.
Answer is plain as day. We must home school our children. The police cannot distinguish between a bad guy & good.
True that … and that lack of distinction is not limited to schools either.
@47Yinzer
Black conservatives like Sonnie Johnson have said that for YEARS. Unfortunately, too many White conservatives dismissed such warnings as paranoid or pro-anarchy.
It takes tragedies like Ulvalde for White conservatives to realize that not every cop is a good guy who will protect their rights and community.
There are three types of cops
Conservatives should’ve realized this during the BLM riot season when they had all these back the blue banners and slogans just to be betrayed by those same police enforcing lockdowns and never ending mandates.
I think the scamdemic proved that too. Arresting a lone man on a paddle board at the beach. Come on!!
So true.
None of the parents who have children in that school should send them back on Monday.
The place should be empty and abandoned.
A big reason why principals and school boards hate homeschooling is that the schools lose money when they lose students.
That’s also why they hate school choice vouchers. If parents had other choices the schools might have to start actually listening to them!
We had WON the debatevon school vouchers, 15 years ago.
Thats why, as we were on the verge of being declared the winner, the traitors supposedly representing us, cut a deal for “Charter Schools”; it was a COMPROMISE to prevent total defeat.
I remember that debate, I remember the opponents of vouchers had NO goid counter arguments, and I remember it was when they KNEW they were gonna lose, that they floated “Charter Schools” and the RINOS agreed.
Again, that was 15-20 years ago. Now, with CRT, Trans crap and grooming, etc. the debate is ours to lose.
Az has passed the first in the Nation School choice, essentially the voucher system.
I’m old, no kids so I am unsure exactly when it goes into effect.
Those parents can choode to put their kids in private school, or home school, and $6500/year/kid of State funds will pay for their education.
Fiscally, Az spends 10,500/year/kid, so those parents are actually “saving” the State $.
Private schools WILL have to test students from one off a list of several standard tests. Homeschool parents face no such requirement.
Note that is State funds, with a National system the $ amt would increase.
Dutchman….
I am so glad Ducey signed that!
I did an actual happy dance 💃 when he signed!!!
Of course our State and Governor doesn’t get all the media attention (yeah that’s a jab at Fl) when it concerns anything positive…so most people don’t know about it!
In effect now.
I was a 22 year home educator of 7 children. I worked to mobilize parents and create law for homeschoolers in my state. Vouchers are another form of control. To receive vouchers parents with be forced to be accountable to the system they have rejected. I paid my property tax and did not ask for a dime in return. Every year I would let the school know the kids would be at home and at the end of the year that they were performing at their level. Nothing more. Nothing less. I never told the superintendent that I did not have a degree. I accomplished a degree after homeschooling was finished. Do not give the school system any opportunity for control of the children God has given you. You are only accountable to God and Him alone. My children are all responsible parents caring for their own families now. Six have chosen to get higher education. One of those is in law enforcement. You do not need vouchers to accomplish good things. Blessings to my fellow treepers! I have learned much from you.
In AZ only need to let county superintendent know you intend to homeschool your children. That’s it.
I don’t need to let ANYONE know I intend to homeschool, ESPECIALLY a superintendent. Unless they are raising my child, it is none of their business, period.
I love to hear about successful homeschooling!
I am proud of you!
I have been advocating for homeschooling for more than a decade.
The majority of people I hear and speak with complain they cannot afford private, parochial or even homeschooling for their children’s education.
The voucher system in AZ-although not perfect–will help many keep their children out of Public Schools.
If more people see and hear the success of homeschooling I am hoping they will band together on a State level to advocate for school choice and homeschooling.
Well in AZ ANY parent can use a voucher for student dollars and send their child to ANY school or even home school.
And that is what it truly is about – funding.
That is their priority.
Actually I believe it is their only priority.
This is the only way to send a message.
Just like the government more and more the police consider everyone their enemy.
Until Uvalde, I was always appalled at the concept of “Defund the Police.” Now it’s becoming MY motto!
Why? Do you think the police should have stepped aside during a lockout for an armed person to enter the school?
What were the police doing – other than tasing the parents? Did they rescue the kids and bring them outside? If not, and my kid is still in the classroom like a sitting duck, I’m going in, “police” be dammed.
The police see us all as perps..or potential perps… we are not people …we are not human..we are perps… therefore any action they take..they can justify..after all its just a perp…. and perps deserve to be abused and assaulted
If you home school them, you make sure your kids aren’t being indoctrinated, bullied, etc., as long as you watch over them on their cell phone activities & on the internet.
But another point: These “loners” aren’t going to be “loners” for long. Afterall, Columbine was 2. How long will it be before someone who says they’re a parent at a lockdown isn’t & is part of the school assault?
Mother of God! There is no adequate description of what is left , of the once “policemen” who roamed our streets protecting the good guys from evil.
The dems have gotten rid of those folks, vilified them, defunded & demoralized them, set their attack “Brown Shirt” mobs upon them………..and this is what we have left. Thugs that are part of the corruption, darkness & spiritual wickedness that has engulfed this nation.
Past time to pray for repentance revival and regeneration.
Totally unacceptable….concerned citizens have more to fear from law enforcement than freakin’ criminals. The threat was over, the “gunman” escaped and these thugs wouldn’t let the parents access their children? We have serious problems….NO JOKE, not a lie, SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
Defund the state and federal police becomes more acceptable – so they don’t interfere with self defense.
We just need to remove the Soros/woke DAs that are dangerous idealogues and traitors that invert criminality to Soviet concepts and especially hate self defense that kills crazies and career criminals.
Hanging.
The author repeats the media created myth that in Uvalte police “stood around while children were being killed”. It’s a useful narrative to certain political entities, just like “hands up don’t shoot” is, so it’ll keep being repeated by those with similar agendas, but it doesn’t happen to be true. In Uvalte, all of the fatal injuries were inflicted in the first three minutes BEFORE police had arrived on scene. You can find fault with their actions or failure to act after that point that was in part related to the delay in discovering kids were in the rooms (it was the last day of school, a number of classrooms were empty) and in large part to failure to properly employ the incident command system. Those were all failings, and they had negative consequences for the injured, but none of them happened WHILE kids were being shot. Those who are pushing that narrative are doing it through ignorance or for political purposes, and they’ve been successful, look at what happened here where panicked parents increased the risk of the innocent being hurt.
The strength of the myths about Uvalte is so intense that any mention of the facts produces a level of hostility that amounts to blind unreasoning hatred, so I refrain from long discussions here, but the official reporting is quite clear, and the reports from the Texas House and the more rational of the other entities that have examined the incident are readily available for those who wish to get a clear understanding of the incident. Bottom line is the “standing around” happened after the fatalities were inflicted.
Please provide references for your assumptions.
They have none.
How could they possibly know…
“In Uvalte, all of the fatal injuries were inflicted in the first three minutes BEFORE police had arrived on scene”
Primarily because because the infliction of gunshot wounds requires that there be actual shooting. The shooting stopped at about the fourth minute when the two officers made the attempt to get into the classroom and were hit by shrapnel from the rifle shots through the hallway wall. There was no rifle fire for about 43 minutes after that.
I think people should believe the official narrative advanced by the mainstream media. It isn’t like they would ever lie to us. It isn’t like they have a vested interest in removing 2a by fomenting hysteria. It isn’t like they are itching to replace local police with UN peacekeeping forces for our own good.
Oh wait.
Not true.
The fatal injuries were fatal because they bled out. If you can get there after the injury but in time to staunch the bleeding, their odds of living go way up.
Also, how could the police know that there was no one else left to die in that room?
Shouldn’t they have assumed there were some survivors, or potential survivors, if they could have received prompt medical care?
I agree, thus my statement that you can fault their delay in entry after they knew they had victims inside, but the claim being made is that they were standing around while the kids were being shot. That claim is false.
A difference without distinction!
Well, the one guy got some hand sanitizer from the unit on the wall. He was more worried about getting COVID??
Then who was making the phone calls
The videos document how bad the police response was. So bad, I wonder if Uvaldae was a false flag. And even if the shooting stopped, there were children and teachers bleeding out that could have been saved with quick medical attention. Inexcusable!
Heres a fact; the golden hour, which is the basis for our whole EMS System.
A trauma victim, like a gunshot wound victim, if not killed by an immediately fatal wound, has a good chance of surviving if the GET PROMPT MEDICAL TREATMENT, on the scene, enroute to the hospital and under the knife of a trauma surgeon.
Show me where paramedics came in and began treating those victims on the scene, packaging them for transport, and rapidly getting them to a trauma center.
The LE delayed in “securing the scene” (by killing the shooter) which delayed any treatment on scene, or any transport
and it cost lives.
Golden HOUR, not golden 75 minutes to even begin the process.
No assumptions involved.
Start with the 2022 interim report of the investigative committee on the Robb Elementary shooting of the Texas House of representatives (81 pages), then read the ALERRT Texas state university report (3 parts). They differ in some specifics, but the facts generally agree.
To this day I never believed the findings of the Warren Commission investigation of JFK’s assassination. Why should I believe the findings pertaining the Robb Elementary report? Two very different animals I know but what they have in common is protecting the so called public servant class.
Exactly – me too.
Suuuure.. believe a investigative Committee report from 2 biased sources. Lets get one from the FIB too! Drink the koolaid, take a blue pill with it, and now you’re disconnected from reality.
Exactly what I was going to say.
FOS.
You’re assuming all the fatal injuries were immediately fatal. That’s a big assumption. Milling about outside as they (LE) tried to assess the situation for some ungodly amount of time (I can’t remember how long, but essentially forever if you’re a student dying inside, or a parent being held down outside) very likely contributed to the deaths of some of the kids.
watch the part of the video where a number of “LE” ran down the hallway with all their swat gear AWAY from the ONE gunshot.
Provide factual proof. While you’re at it, also look up the correct spelling of that town in TX. Lastly, a question: you actually believe “official” reporting? Trolls gotta troll…….
Thank you, mostlyOgauge.
armie, I do not believe what you say is accurate. Actually police arrived on the scene before any children were killed. Here is the timeline:
11:28 the shooter crashed his stolen truck into a ravine near the campus and near a funeral home. Employees of the funeral home called 911, because they saw he was armed.
11:29 a teacher sees the gunman near a fence at the perimeter of school property and calls 911.
11:30 A coach sees the gunman on school property and announces over the school radio/loud speaker system to lock down warns the school.
11:31 The shooter is now in the parking lot and fires his gun multiple times between cars. He then lays down near a car hiding. Still at 11:31 video evidence shows the first police arrive the scene, A school district police patrol car.
11:32 The shooter is still outside the class rooms, walks towards the classrooms and shoots out multiple windows. Still 11:32 The “Rapid Response Police” enter the campus, see the shooter, who is still outside of the classrooms and ask for permission to shoot him. Permission is not granted in time.
11:33 The shooter enters classroom…
Time line: https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/27/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-timeline/
The 11:31 arrival was the school officer who drove past the suspect. You’re correct that the suspect wasn’t in the classroom yet. It’s widely believed now that the “shooter” seen by the RRP was actually the coach running back to the classrooms.
“After the attacker already had fired over 100 shots in Robb Elementary’s west building, two separate groups of officers converged on the building at the same time from different directions. From the time of their initial entry and over the course of the next five minutes, the attacker fired approximately 16 additional rounds. ” (house report)
We’re talking about roughly a two minute period here, but it appears from other evidence that the 16 additional rounds went into the door.
So the sequence is shooter in lot, officers in parking lot, shooter enters classroom and fires 100 rounds, officers enter the hallway.
I’m counting on scene as the time they actually entered the hallway.
Sounds like someone didn’t watch the video. I mean, it’s all on tape. It’s all documented by witness accounts from both the police, participants, and witnesses. AND the police had a clear shot before the shooter entered the building, yet here we are.
They had a clear shot at the coach from about 80 yards away, fortunately they didn’t take it
Moot point Brainiac. If, which I doubt, all the kids were shot in the 1st 3 minutes, LE would not know this so if we thought of them as cowards before, they don’t get to slip by on a technicality. Did LE know if he had a silencer? Did LE know if he was armed with a bayonet?
are you some kind of sick troll? you obviously haven’t watched the video
No jim, he’s probably a cop, or a politician.
Oh look, a new troll!
So what government agency do you work for?
Only some government stooge would get on this sight and spout this total trash.
Let me guess, you’re an aid for mitt romney
I call BS on this pitiful attempt to justify the COWARDICE that was clearly evident in the released video. Also as a combat infantryman in Vietnam in 1968-69 I saw more casualties die from blood loss while waiting for a medivac than from wounds resulting in instant death. If you believe any of the numerous “official” accounts from these butt covering cowards, well then you are a fool….sir.
Armie,
This is a short discussion of a fact with no hatred or hostility. 😉
The shooter entered rooms 111 & 112 at 11.33pm and this is when he started shooting. It wasn’t over in 3 minutes.
I don’t have time to look at the entire report, but at 12:21pm, on a 911 call from a student, three gunshots can be heard. School security footage shows four rounds are fired. Eleven rounds were heard shortly after this, almost an hour after he started the initial shooting. More rounds fired (two children shot) as the police were trying to get into the room, after negotiations failed.
Yeah, I don’t have it nearby, but I seem to remember four incidents of gunfire. If I recall correctly, the 12:21 caller said he’d shot the door. The long period of no gunfire was from the arrival of the police until 12:21. during that period the media is falsely claiming kids were being shot.
Armie – It is Uvalde – not Uvalte. I can’t take you seriously when you can’t even spell the name of the school correctly, and furthermore, how do you know that all the fatalities happened within the first three minutes? Kids bled out while LE stood around sanitizing their hands….
False. The mother who rescued her children heard shots being fired as she went from one classroom to the other. She has no motive to lie.
The officials have a motive to lie. The eye witnesses do not.
I watched it live feed.
shots were going off as parents begged cops to do something or let them go in.
I will never forget what I saw.
armie is very misinformed.
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Spell it right please; it’s Ulvalde. Where the hell does Uvalte come from? I have friends there & I live 60 miles away. UVALDE!
Ulvalde or Uvalde?
No, they BLED OUT you moron. People who receive immediate medical care frequently survive gunshot wounds. Those kids snd teachers were left in there to die.
The police have ZERO excuse for their failure to act.
You state as facts things you can’t possibly know.
“Uvalde police stood around while kids were dying” is the more correct emotive phrasing for total police failure. Their failure to attack and finish promptly surely cost lives and is not acceptable.
That would be correct, the claim they were being shot is not, but it’s the left’s favorite meme.
Law enforcement would NOT have known if all the kids were shot in the 1st 3 minutes if your version is true. That doesn’t change, one iota, how we should evaluate those 370 LE heroes, does it? You’re giving LE an unearned “do over”.
To me it matters whether they were hearing gunfire and chose to do nothing or not. There are risks to the hostages if you go charging into the room with guns blazing and the shooter is hiding behind them and/or chooses to just kill them all. I strongly suspect there’d be a loud chorus of “why did you provoke him into killing all those kids when he wasn’t shooting at anybody”? Why didn’t you negotiate with him? Most likely from the same group of second guessers so active now. Then you’d find yourself arguing that your duty to get care for the wounded outweighed your responsibility to save the uninjured. “Yeah he went berzerk and killed 15 hostages, but we saved two of the injured.”
To me, this is a situation where you have to look at all the factors, weigh the likelihood of all the various outcomes, then hope you make the right call or at least the reasonable one. That starts with understanding there’s no simplistic gung ho cut and dried unfailing solutions to situations like this. The more you let the public get sold a false scenario, the greater the risk that ignorant public expectations will push you into a bad outcome in future incidents.
No – there is video of the “police” standing around outside the room where children were being killed. One of the police felt the need to use a hand sanitizer on the wall while “waiting.” Where are you getting your information? Did you miss the aforementioned videos?
Liar.
Bullshit! The mom who was handcuffed and then was able to get released and got her kids out heard shots still being fired. That was well after the lockdown.
It is a big deal, a really, really big deal, when law enforcement disconnects itself from duly enacted constitutional law and instead declares its loyalty to a political regime.
That is the essence of the end of America: which is a Republic governed by the will of the People through Duly.Enacted.Law.
@Aqua
Reminder: too many cops had no qualms supporting unconstitutional Jim Crow laws to appease White supremacist politicians, who wanted to put Black people “back in their place.”
I really don’t blame the police and I certainly don’t blame the parents
You can’t tell a good person from a bad person these days.
Public schools have become killing grounds
Brief rant: we are in the middle of a transition from a high-trust society to a low-trust society. Yes, that transition is being forced, but it is real nonetheless.
There are many symptoms and consequences. In this example parents have shifted to realizing the more-than-mildly advanced state of that transition, while the government agents still expect people (in this case, parents who aren’t normies anymore) to behave as if the high-trust society still exists.
In a high-trust society you can let your grade schooler ride his bike 2 miles to school and back, or walk, as I did from 4th grade onwards, leaving my bike in the bike rack on the playground (it was always there at the end of the school day). In a low-trust society, you meet your middle-schooler at the bus stop and escort him home.
You can think of your own examples.
Most people where I live leave their cars unlocked. Not because there is no crime but because if the door is unlocked the criminals won’t break the windows.
Is that what you mean?
Which is really stupid when you think about it. Replacing a window is cheaper than replacing a WHOLE CAR.
Believe it or not, where I live, I leave the keys in my car, right in the ignition, so I don’t have to keep track, or worry about losing them.
And no, its NOT because I don’t want the thieves to damage my vehicles when they hotwire them, lol.
2A sanctuary county, in a State where both open carry and concealed carry are legal, and require no permit, and being rural, EVERYBODY is armed.
15 years here, nothing stolen yet.
Speaking of which, assuming the father reported as having a gun wasn’t a felon, he was legal to carry as he rushed to rescue his child,….ooops until he entered the “gun free killing zone”.
I DOUBT they will charge him with that, though.
The question is whether we can, will or are allowed to create areas of trust and ‘normal’ functioning e.g. safe neighborhoods with good schools which happen even in 3rd world countries, albeit for a percentage of elite government parasites/predators too.
Often demands for equality are demands to drag all down into an all consuming morrass.
We can and must do that, and we will meet “resistance”, and thus it has always been. The critical mass of fully cognizant former normies, needed to re-form such a thing, is coalescing as we speak.
Most law enforcement have become extensions of the injustice department.
Many local law enforcement get mega bucks for doing whatever the injustice department wishes.
Do we all remember how many times the parkland punk had interaction with law enforcement ?
Why did sheriff Israel release Nick so many times? $$$$$$
It’s a program that the U.N. Made Osama and Lynch implement called ?
It’s connected to the U.N. Program called strong city initiative and little punks can get 3 misdemeanors a year before being charged.
It’s called the promise program and it’s why all the parkland kids were killed.
Our police are no longer there to protect anything other then their $$$$$ and it’s been made perfectly clear we are all criminals on many occasions.
Parkland is another situation where there were a large number of early casualties. If you can get your hands on the video footage and compare it to the timeline you’ll discover that 2/3 of the fatalities were on the first floor and occurred in the first 90 seconds. Cruz then walked the 2nd floor hallway, but hit no one, then trapped his final victims outside a third floor classroom with a locked door. The SRO didn’t get to the scene until Cruz was above the first floor, most likely just entering the third. It’s interesting to speculate about whether the shooters come to a sudden awareness of the enormity of their actions after the first burst of gunfire, causing them to pause.
Shooters pause even sooner when the first counterfire occurs, even handgun vs AR15…
Do an internet search of “civil forfeiture” laws, and it may cause you to modify your views.
Florida USED to be cited as one of the worst areas in the U.S. for this, I wonder if Desantis has addressed this?
Kari Lake, Abe Hamadeh will solve this problelm. Be careful for whom you vote. The McCain stains are still out there in force and hanging on by a thread. Biggs is a huge disappointment with his endorsement of nepotism and cronyism.
We thought DeSantis was going to solve the problem. Now he has gone to the dark side.
He never left the dark side, follow the money.
He was groomed as a splitter. Never said 2020 election was stolen.
There will be no one man panecea. It is still up to us, including getting more good mileage out of deSantis if he drifts toward the dark side. A great leader provides manifold opportunities, but cannot do everything.
I think Uvalde was staged by the CIA, just like Sandy Hook. I think the police stood down sub-theme was designed to undermine the ‘let’s hire armed guards at schools’ solution. The point was that no one e xcept parents will reliably take on an armed shooter hence we have to just outlaw guns otherwise all the kids die.
That and if/when they want to stage another shooting they don’t want parents rushing in and figuring out its fake. Sandy Hook was a potemkin village if you research, so there were no real parents.
How did that punk afford a new truck and thousands and thousands of dollars of expensive stuff on a part time job ?
grandmother’s truck, rent-free savings / credit card purchase.
Careful, the punitive damages REALLY sting. Just ask alex.
Correction: THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE “LAW ENFORCEMENT” INSTEAD OF “KEEPERS OF THE PEACE.” Remember that.
Never forget,
Cops are public employees first and foremost. They have to follow stupid bureaucratic policies created by risk averse hacks, like anyone else who works in government at any level.
Which is why, and people get mad at me for saying this….
….most cops are pretty useless.
In the current world the police are mostly engaged in citizen suppression/oppression ops.
ACAB. Sorry clueless readers if I offended thee.
Stop feeding the education leviathan.
starve the beast
Yep, so often overlooked, economic warfare. Strength in numbers. The original revolution revolved around liberty and money and colonists fought with money before they turned to guns. Citizens today have more power than they realize. What matters is coordination and communication and willingness to go to the mat, whatever it takes to win.
Imagine the small coordinated groups that not only routed cops in MSP, but ran them out of their police station and burnt it to the ground. Learn from that. It works.
I guess DeSantis has already done that in FL. Never mind.
Abbott. No.
GOP governors. No.
Az Governor Ducey who is Republican Governor just signed school vouchers .
6500.00 per student that attends alternate schools. And that includes homeschooling.
Ducey isn’t a
Media Diva..like DeSantis who never saw a microphone he didn’t like . Plus our Media is one of the worst at only attacking him – and MAGA.
Best advice right there ^^^ says this retired high school teacher and grandmother of 5 school age grandchildren.
FF foiled?
Suspect, 3 parents arrested after El Mirage elementary school lockdown.
I experienced Culture Shock last year after going through extreme security procedures to drop my grandson at his elementary school last year. I couldn’t help but think the “school lockdowns” will be used to keep parents from their children. Eventually, they won’t need a gunman excuse…”Insert dystopian reason here” (Parent refused to get their child Vaxxed, or refused to consent to gender transition etc…)
Gender transition is child abuse and genital mutilation, right up there with kidnapping, we see in dystopian societies.
Societies that fail to deal with such outrageous crimes likely aren’t viable long term.
A few quick points; the National “requirement” for “gun free kill zones” is NOT a requirement.
State legislatures have an “opt out” to the law, and in Texas and Utah, voted to allow school districts to ‘opt-out’; this is FEDERALISM.
The U.S. “Law” authorised FUNDING to State Education Depts, and thru them to schools, to pay for the signs, etc.
Opt out, and all the school loses out on, is this specific funding, and there is no other penalty.
Congress HAD to include such an “opt out” as otherwise the law would have been UnConstitutional on its face, and ONE State fighting it as a requirement, would have gutted the authority.
Fighting such a fight, to get State Legislatures to similarly defer the “opt out” option, in many “flyover” and largely rural States SHOULD be doable, with a MAGA majority in the Legislature, as its simply passing the decision down to where it belongs.
Fighting it at the school board/district level will be the real fight, as you need to overcome the irrational parents, who don’t understand that guns don’t kill people, people kill people.
Frankly, a Statewide School choice may be the easier fight to win, gut public schools and make the kill zone fight irrelevant.
Secondly Tasers are not ‘harmless’ theircis no harmless way to incapacitate someone, and any who think its harmless can research thectaser deaths, and go ahead, have yourself tasered.
Finally, this just adds a desert to the menu of Uvalde, the mall shooter meal served up recently,…
The Enemy is NOT “Winning”,..
There’s a lot of variables in taser use. In my community, I attended a demonstration of the new high power taser being applied to a few officers, all had satisfying results. About a month later I was in line at a drive-through and watched the drunk behind me get three doses that had little impact and it took a scrum to get him in cuffs. Don’t think I’d like to find out which group I’d fall into, though.
You can do that in Kansas, but not anywhere else.
As it so happens, I’m doing it in South Carolina.
Lots and lots of families do it here in Utah as well, including two of my own children who homeschool their kids (my grandkids). Best decision they ever made….
Doing it in metro Denver.
Bee Ess – works fine in Indiana
Arizona does it.
Our Governor just passed bill. 6500.00 per child if you send the child to alternate schooling.
And that includes homeschooling.
‘we back the blue’
now they turn on you….
Isn’t forcefully holding someone’s children considered kidnapping? Damned if I wouldn’t be suing the police, the campus, the school system, and everyone else I could possibly hold liable for such a policy, and making a massive media production of it to boot.
(Well, no, I wouldn’t. Because my children will never set foot on a school campus as long as I’m alive.)
Already “turned your children” over to THEM, when you enroll them in school.
Heck, talk to any parent that has been abused by Child Protective Services, and you realise the are NOT “your children” they belong to the State, you are just the childs caretakers.
It’s not wrong to protect children from bad parents.
A friend of mine who is a very good mother had her one-year-old taken away from her for being homeless/sleeping in a Walmart parking lot. (They were traveling and had arrive in the area at 5 AM, just a few hours before dawn. They didn’t see much point in getting a hotel room for the night.)
CPS is corrupt to the core. Thousands of parents and children can attest.
As a Christian, I profoundly disagree. They’re God’s children, but he has entrusted them to me. Not the State.
IF I remember correctly there was a US Supreme Court case- CASTLE ROCK v GONZALES where the court ruled ” police have NO duty to protect you” –Do you see now why LIBS and slimy RINO’s want to DISARM private citizens??? PS. If you choose to arm yourself, get proper training, learn gun safety and think about storage for the safety of your children.
Most especially, train your children in the safe use of firearms, and make certain they know exactly why we have the Second Amendment.
I personally know many families who made enormous financial sacrifices and moved to safer areas in order to home school. I’ve watched them grow as human beings because they no longer can just order take out to be delivered, go shopping when they want, eat out, go to the movies or theatre or afford vacations. The kids wear hand me downs from the cousins. I’m so proud of them for putting the children first and the children are thriving.
Single parents are in a particular bind, but there are huge home schooling groups where parents share in the teaching.
I personally think Public Education needs to be defunded until such time as all the pedophiles are put in jail, all the Marxists are forbidden to teach their ideology, and education is only about reading (the Classics not the perverts), writing (not emotional journals of your family’s private life or your pronouns and transitioning, social justice, etc.), and arithmetic (I’m convinced the White House is full of Common Core students).
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And the US Department of Education must be abolished!
If you live in Az, can get $6,500/kid to pay for home schooling.
Add that to “earned income credits you may now qualify for because of 1 income, could actually match or nearly match second income,…but thats just about $.
Quality of LIFE? PRICELESS!
The Left demonizes law enforcement and even prosecutes them for doing their jobs. Law enforcement then stops enforcing the law in order to protect themselves. Crime then rises exponentially due to the lack of enforcement. More and more people become victims of crime and start defending themselves. Law enforcement then only enforce the law against those desperately trying to defend themselves because they can’t afford to be embarrassed for cowardice that was demonstrated in Uvalde. Law enforcement then loses even more credibility and chaos increases to the delight of the elites that want the system to crash in order to implement their “Great Reset”.
20 years ago this whole premise would have been ludicrous to give credibility to. Now, it’s all readily provable using public statements made by the WEF and their acolytes.
When LE, DAs and judges becomes complicit and act against citizens, victims and self defense they are criminal.
Ultimately elemental law vs nominal (bad, -isms) law struggles are the chaos factor.
Flight to greener pastures has been a big answer for the last 60-250 years, but cornered, more are going to have to fight for their rights.
The downstream effects of progressive liberalism. Endless excuses for leniency, long delayed consequences, over abundance of remedial and retraining, always has excuses for not working, never a criticism of appearance, hygiene, attitude, language or behaviors, acceptance that we or loved ones may become collateral damage.
I don’t want China CCP society, but what we are doing is insane!
part of this is sponsored by the CCP, many of “our” politicians long compromised by them
The only solution will be putting the skin of the political class on the line in the most violent way
Delaware needs to be put on the list along with NYC and Washington DC
If I had kids there is zero chance my child would goto a public school.
Don’t need my child turing out to be a tranny or getting shot.
Expect desperate parents, knowing they could be tazed, to consider bringing weapons to get the police out of the way.
Just said same thing to my son.
Next the parents will be shooting their way through the cops to save their kids
The parent was armed in this case. With LE in control of the situation, I doubt other parents wanted any rogue elements disturbing the situation.
This is what a police state looks like! It highlights how important it is to have good, qualified local police.
Best practice, home school!
I can’t blame the parents because of the tragedy at Uvalde WHCIH THEY ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.
The School authorities think they OWN our children and whatever happens, we have to accept, because our kids are now gevernment property. This they have told us over and over again.
HOMESCHOOL.
The Police don’t care about school violence itself…they let it happen, or let the criminals just escape free.
They care about attacking the parents who are trying to save their kids, and get them away from the danger.
BS. It’s hard to take this seriously.
You forgot the part where they let the suspect get away.
Anyone still foolish enough to think the police are your friend, I have some Idaho beach front homes for sale, replete with their own Golden Gate or Brooklyn bridge as a Bonus for paying cash….hit me up, I need some quick millions.
Something an anthem kneeler would say?
Defund the COURTS!!!!!
The solution is simple. Stop sending your children to public schools in “gun free” zones.
If the gunman “tried” to enter the school but failed in the attempt, then it must have been a lock out, not a lock down, which is when someone is inside the building.
Either way, if you can’t trust your school admins to protect your children then please don’t send them to the slaughter.
A high percentage of American public schools are cesspools of radical communism, depraved pedofilia engaged in by predatory school employees. These schools have abandoned all pretense at education and are promoting the destruction and demise of our children. It is likely that these parents knew details about this school and knew they needed to rescue their children
If you are an employee of the American public education system and you are promoting the filth and depravity of CRT, transgendersim and communism saturating the education system in this nation – either by radical participation and encouragement or by quiet acquiescence and non confrontation – you ARE the problem. You will be viewed by parents with the same revulsion and hatred as they view the pedofile trying to groom their child. You have been warned.
Please don’t judge good cops everywhere by those cowardly Uvalde knuckleheads. Most cops are really good people with a tough job to do. Give ’em a break whenever you can.
Agreed.
When you cherish something more than yourself there is no threshold you will not surpass. When put in that position there is no greater cause and the chemical reaction that occurs is beyond fight or flight. Protecting your offspring will always supercede liability.
I completely agree with you on this.
There was a time where law enforcement knew who the perp was and pursued him/her to limit harm.
Now we “manage” the incident so badly bystanders get involved.
And then we arrest them?
Didn’t this use to be Sheriff Joe’s territory? Too bad he wasn’t still there, if it was his.
You can’t just ignore the parents in that situation, one officer could have let the parents know what was going on in that situation. Giving orders without explanations is arrogant and feeds the parents fears. The police were lucky. I could see a situation where police officers are found hand cuffed to the light pole out front, while parents go towards the danger. That’s where we are today sadly. Local Law enforcement and the citizens can’t survive without each other. Without communication and trust you have nothing.
We don’t need vigilante parents confusing the situation.
Love the picture. Says everything. No other words necessary.
Parents are in no way culpable of any crime.
The parents represent a society which cannot rely on, or believe in, those operating under the leadership of seditionists who have declared war on our Constitutional Republic. They are armed sock-puppets who will find their homage to corrupt leaders will not save them, either.
If all employees in all jobs refused to carry out the rules of these NWO employers, this war would grind to a halt along with the destruction of the rule of law.
Applies to the politicalization of FBI, DOJ & other alphabet soup agencies.
Yes, we can blame these parents. Local LE had the situation in hand and were dealing with safety issues in a systematic and controlled manner. Armed individuals trying to break through perimeter were LUCKY that they were only tased and arrested. This is exactly what want schools and local LE to do in these cases.
the root is the public is getting narratives that are conditioning them to not trust the police at school shooting events (true in one location , might not be true in another, but it doesnt matter, perception is gonna rule)
unless transparency starts, and active efforts to communicate from LE to the public – parents are gonna bring and use something in the future.
communication and effort needs to start now, or Obama’s fundamental change virus is gonna fracture this country with perfection.
I would expect this particular community not to buy into the master narrative of distrusting LE.
When your turn comes . . . hold the line.
So the police were aiding and abetting the perps. They are accomplices. Stuff ‘em and cuff ‘em!
The police are not your protectors. The police are your jailers.
Is this a BLM discussion board?
Police just can’t seem to get it right.