Well, there goes the entire business model of the GoFundMe organization.
In a rather jaw-dropping development, the crowdfunding organization is taking the position that Canadian officials have labeled the Canadian Freedom Convoy protest as an “illegal occupation” of the city of Ottawa. As a result, GoFundMe will not release the funds to the organizers of the protest, and will, instead, only transfer those funds to an authorized and credible charitable organization like “Black Lives Matter”.
The statement in Full:
♦ GoFundMe supports peaceful protests and we believe that was the intention of the Freedom Convoy 2022 fundraiser when it was first created.
♦ We now have evidence from law enforcement that the previously peaceful demonstration has become an occupation, with police reports of violence and other unlawful activity.
To ensure GoFundMe remains a trusted platform, we work with local authorities to ensure we have a detailed, factual understanding of events taking place on the ground. Following a review of relevant facts and multiple discussions with local law enforcement and city officials, this fundraiser is now in violation of our Terms of Service (Term 8, which prohibits the promotion of violence and harassment) and has been removed from the platform.
Organizers provided a clear distribution plan for the initial $1M that was released earlier this week and confirmed funds would be used only for participants who traveled to Ottawa to participate in a peaceful protest.
Given how this situation has evolved, no further funds will be directly distributed to the Freedom Convoy organizers — we will work with organizers to send all remaining funds to credible and established charities verified by GoFundMe.
All donors may submit a request for a full refund until February 19th, 2022 using this dedicated refund form. (LINK)
The Canadian government and law enforcement officials worked earnestly to Alinsky and label the voices of Middle Canada as violent extremists. It appears that official effort has paid dividends, as the money for the protest group has been cut off as the result of an arbitrary definition applied by the totalitarian state.
Madness.
Sickening…
There aren’t enough words to encapsulate this dynamic appropriately.
However, now that government has successfully branded the protesting group as an unlawful and violent occupying group, the Canadian authorities are now able to use extreme measures to counter the “threat to democracy” they represent.
This is a major, albeit ideological, escalation by the totalitarian state.
Sue them into obscurity. Wipe them out for breach of contract. Get woke, go broke.
Deadline is February 19!! After that they put it where they please.
And I am reading that if you do NOT use the GFM refund form but issue a charge back or open a dispute with your bank/CC the GFM has to pay a fee. Would be great to teach them a real lesson this way!
Exactly! File a transaction dispute for breach of contract. It freezes it for you. File a Federal and State complaint with the Corporation Commissions of each.
anyone with knowledge of this??? would be great if true?
It should work. Tell them the merchant refused to deliver the service paid for.
It should reflect the date the service was paid for. If they had not issued that totalitarian dictate by the date you donated, then I think they’re on the hook!
Yes, I am in the credit card processing business and it is generally $25.00 per transaction
unless the credit card processing company gave them a special rate when they signed the
contract.
Someone needs to inform Steve Bannon and Carlson Tucker.
I just disputed my AX donation for not fulfilling the service that was the purpose of the donation. They try to get you to contact the merchant for refund but you can skip that and dispute based on no delivery of service.
Jack Posobiec posted it and he would have notified both if they did not see.
That is a BS date – they made that up!!
Lots of people donated a little bit here and there….money is kinda scarce.
Now they’ve *stolen* it all.
This will NOT end well.
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I don’t know the laws in Canada — or California. (It’s even unclear where this behemoth can be “arbitrated” with or sued.)
But this is indeed strikes me as a form of theft. If Florida had jurisdiction, that the money were held even temporarily would give rise to a claim for civil theft — and treble damages.
People. If you’re going to raise money, go to a lawyer. Form a non-profit organization. It doesn’t take that long. Or to make a website. Have the money be sent direct.
they did form a non profit
I just went back to listen to the presser because I wasn’t sure if they said they set it up already, or were in the process. If I understood the lawyer correctly on a re-listen (around the 14 min mark) he said they were taking steps to set it up, so unfortunately, it sounds like it isn’t in place yet. And, even more unfortunately, since non-profits require government approval, I am not hopeful this will ever happen, and if it does, certainly not in a timely fashion as it will not become another tool the government can use to punish them.
A non-profit can take a little bit of time, lots of paper work, there are ways around it until it gets set up, which is what they thought they had going. The other thing is they had no clue they would be raising over 10 million dollars.
The organizer said she thought they would only raise a few thousand, she was stunned at the support and they did immediately get a lawyer and set up a non profit.
I couldn’t remember if they said they’d set it up or were in the process of setting it up, so went back and listened to the presser. Around the 14 min mark, the lawyer says they’ve “taken steps” to set up a non-profit and other financial arrangements, so that sounds like they’re starting the profit. And, as you say, this takes a lot of time, not to mention government approval for this status. Does anyone think the Canadian government will approve this and/or if they do, not slow walk it forever? I have the impression the convoy had no idea they would receive such a financial outpouring of support and are a bit late to the party to get set up financially to protect themselves, which is regrettable.
Already been done for the protesters.
Forming a non-profit actually does take time. There are a lot of hoops you have to jump through, requirements to meet, paperwork to file, etc.
Last I saw the largest donation was $40,000, there were numerous $5, $10 thousand ones. Those people clearly have cash and need to raise some serious stink.
My Blood is Beyond Boiling Over This!!!!!!!!!!
I want to hear what the Trucker’s attorneys have to say – hopefully they will speak on this soon – and inform of a lawsuit!
I will be BLASTING this disgusting company in my request to have my funds refunded – AND HOW DARE THEY CHOOSE TO REDIRECT FUNDS they received on behalf of THE TRUCKERS to others!!!!!!
How can that even be an option???????
designed to infuriate supporter but boomeranged on them . . . bigly!
Sounds like they d should be named gofu**me. Challenge credit card charges and if traded short them to zero.
People using GiveSendGo.com are saying that they requested their GoFundMe donation and put it on GuveSendGo.
Hot Anger.
SOBs.people should never use these trash org.
They did not see this coming? They really did not see this coming?
They “now have “evidence” from law enforcement”? They had “evidence” of “Russian collusion” too.
They are Canadians and not as familiar as we with GFM’s thefts. Spread the word so everyone requests their money back.
Watch the banks do what they did to Andrew Torba next.
As ticked off as this makes me you are absolutely right. But I bet more people will pay attention after this and find a different organization for their targeted charity. I really hope this puts the hurts on Gofundme.org.
“But I bet more people will pay attention after this and find a different organization for their targeted charity. ”
If anyone believes that and gives to yet another ORGANIZATION, ???????
givesendgo is a good organization. James O’Keefe knows the owner.
In order for me to consider an organization good, I have to know the owner.
The organizers are now collaborating with givesendgo
https://givesendgo.com/FreedomConvoy2022
Though it seems to be having some problems the site, 502 gateway error. Must be busy with donations 😀
Also do not forget about adopt-a-trucker.ca a GiveSendGo focused on Trucker facilities like transport, security and such
Thank you for the information.
If you go to the site via Google, you get the gateway error. Using other browsers, you get the actual website.
Nope. I never use Google and I still get the gateway error.
It worked for me via two other browsers, but not the Goog.
I used duckduckgo. Still error message.
TikTok from organizers about GoFundMe
https://gab.com/Tinhattercanuk/posts/107742637954420696
As long as go fund me has your money you don’t “got this”. Get your money out of their coffers or tell your donors to request refunds and find other means to donate.
I refuse to go to GAB, Torba has made antisemitic remarks. That’s not what a Christian does.
How do we know that corporation won’t do the same thing?
There is an incorporation (charity) legal entity now the organizers started registered last week. Givesendgo fundraiser is set to deposit directly into the bank account of the charity from what I can see in the details. So if this is correct, there can never be a hold because the funds will go direct. Accountant and lawyers will be responsible for the distribution.
The lawyers are (in whole or in part?) provided by jccf.ca Justice Centre for Canada.
https://www.jccf.ca/justice-centre-representing-2022-truckers-freedom-convoy/
I hope they are with a good bank too though, because Wokey Bank is probably not a good one to have an account on. Hopefully they have that covered.
Thanks for the information!
I donated about 90 min ago and had no problems with GiveSendGo.
That is straight up theft.
Exactly!
All contributors need to request a full refund. No one should ever donate to gofkme.
If you used a credit card, dispute the charge for failure to deliver. It will cost them $25 per dispute.
We all saw this coming from SOOOO many miles away. Still total bullshit on their part. Adding to “Cold Anger” day by day!
givesendgo.com Very naive to have used gofundme
So GFM is stealing then. This is criminal. Arrest them all!
Who is going to arrest them? “Law enforcement” quite likely told them to do this. The organizers and donors who used go fund me should have known better.
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Fraud. Civil theft.
Tort law 101?
Fiduciary trust broken, big time!
Send Lawyer,Guns & Money
If you donated you have until February 19th to get your money back.
Another platform has stood up to replace GoFundMe.
They are apparently called GiveSendGo.
You will need to do your own research.
Donors must ask for full refunds first
Period
Then sue the bastards
WHY did they use GoFundMe?
Why not GiveSendGo?
WHY dont these people read?
Because people on our side are in love with “easy” and “free” and “convenient” too. Using another platform such as paralleleconomy.com would have been too “hard”. Okay, now pay the price of easy.
…and older people or those who aren’t tech savvy knows gfm from other instances, so they’d trust them with their hard earned money.
I hope the Horns of Jericho reduce their HQ to fine dust.
Nothing Good is ever Easy.
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They also all could have sent the donations directly to the trust account of a law firm for the organizers, too.
They had no clue it was going to be this big, they were hoping for thousands of dollars, not over $10 million. They were hoping to get 1,000 trucks, no clue 50,000 would join in. As soon as they realized it was big and the first media lies about GFM were started they went to an attorney. They really did the best they could and did what they thought would work. I think everyone wishes they hadn’t used GFM. Hind sight is 20/20.
Now we need to be praying that they can get it worked out quickly and legally w/out losing much money, get what they need that works set up so more people can donate again, that people will demand a refund from GFM. And the Trudy Birds can eat crow.
Exactly.
What is the link for the truckers give send go account?
Found the link https://givesendgo.com/FreedomConvoy2022 but the site server has been overloaded. My original donation to GFM has been disputed through AX and I intend to double my donation on this new christian site.
Ditto on the doubling!
They are going to be gone in less than one year. Another liberal exposed company on the choping block. I think soon will see this GOF***ME Brandon! Just sayin~
Well the military said they would not take part in policing the freedom convoys.
Lets hope the regular policemen stand down also.
Then what will they do?
Send in social workers?
All users should IMMEDIAtely request their refunds.
Then when received, forward them to a fund set up in Give Send Go.
But it is sickening to see the shorty-sightedness of whoever set up the GFM how it has cost the truckers so dearly.
If you think that is bad, the USA trucker convoy originally set up a facebook page which of course was shut down; I guess they are now over at GAB.
I’m doing just that, and doubling what I gave last time.
I doubled as well.
How can Treeper’s in mass help the truckers?
Golly gee..
Who coulda seen this coming?
GO FRAUD ME
This is sickening…
I posted this earlier this week. The mainstream is trying to discredit GiveSendGo. Reading this article just makes me want to use them more.
https://www.logically.ai/articles/givesendgo-christ-cash-and-conspiracy-theories
This is where the strategy originated.
“Swear”, “defecate” and “cart around explosive fuel”, “threaten violence”? I assume all this is on video? I hope the Truckers are compiling lawsuit evidence.
Brilliant strategy there.
Destroy the logistics capability that underpins everything in the Nation and then declare victory?
A Pyrrhic victory at best.
This is akin to shooting yourself in the face with a shotgun.
And they rely on those businesses to bring them food and goods.
It would be a real shame if the doxxer and the others piling on in that thread were themselves doxxed. Just sayin’.
“Mom to a CAF soldier, a young feminist & youngest who is LGBTQ…”
Wow, this woman is woke and has ensured her kids are too.
She sure does like herself some….
Watch the Viva video and there is no graffiti or disfiguring of monuments going on. It’s all political BS lies!
Narratives. Optics. Perception.
The left is brilliant at manipulating this, or perhaps not brilliant, but good enough because the media will carry all the water and run with it. While patriots are so often left behind in a cloud of dust, trying to regroup and/or defend themselves. Same template every time.
Main stream media losing its power, many on different platforms have larger audiences and more reach – the word is getting out and there are plenty of videos of live streamers for every day of the truck convoy.
Yes, I know. But even as their power diminishes, I do not underestimate it. And, alternative platforms also cater to leftists so it’s not as if they don’t fill the gap that might be expanding due to reduced viewership of mainstream media outlets.
This underscores the exact same reason people should shun Facebook, Twitter, Google, and other platforms for which free speech, free commerce and free association take a back seat.
Are there no multi millionaires who want to stand up for democracy and compensate for some of this stolen money? Not all of it necessarily,but a good chunk?
A large amount could probably be raised again,but time is a big factor.
And this is also intended to depress morale. Hopefully it does the opposite.
Seems things will come to a head soon.
Canada cannot pose as a free country any more.
bezos?
the givesendgo site crashed under the load. They will be back up be patient.
I was hoping the same. Elon and Russell popped into my head, but all my life it has mostly been those that have the least step up the strongest.
Maybe on the right, but on the left they have a lot of major names that give major amounts of money. alas.
This is democracy we are witnessing.- in its final transition. Tyranny.
“GoFundMe supports peaceful protests”
Givesendgo for freedom convoy has error message.
Crashing from so many people trying to donate. Keep trying.
All quite predictable with much more to come. Tyrants don’t cede power. When challenged, they dig in and escalate the level of threat and malice. Sending daily prayers to the truckers.
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Organizers’ lawyers need to make a public statement immediately that donors must seek a refund, and provide an alternate place for the refunded donations to be sent.
She did.
This is our future with the “Health Passes”
The tyrants can label anybody anything they want and lay hands on EVERYTHING YOU OWN including YOUR CHILDREN.
THIS…IS…THE…HILL…TO…DIE…ON.
Yup and very much what RJK Jr. was talking about when he referred to technology being used so there will be no escape.
Creepy Joe hands and worse
Ask for an occupation, get an occupation. I am still waiting for the next PM to stand up.
Not terribly sure that person actually has a seat in the House.
I find it comical that GFM says they want to remain a “trusted platform”.
Who in their right mind would trust them with one cent after this?
Liberals that are happy to see the Truckers in a momentary bind.
“Make Canada Great Again” patriots have the numerical, economic, moral, intellect and armed majorities in Canada.
The Canadian government has lost their own “Decisive Battle.”, they are just too evil to surrender, yet.
“The Decisive Battle”
https://tinkzorg.wordpress.com/2021/11/02/2740/
That last paragraph was scary,SD….
Of course, because this is GoFundMe, you all knew this was going to happen and had a contingency plan in place. If you didn’t, then you must be dumber than dirt.
With all the truckers are doing, the sacrifices they’re making, and the risks they’re taking, you decide to essentially call them “dumber than dirt???” Let me guess, you typed that from the comfort of your home. Or are you calling people who donated to them via GFM “dumber than dirt?” If so, that’s disgusting. People feel desperate and so many are pinning much hope on this convoy. Supporting them with financial donations has been one of the few ways people can do it. Were a lot of folks suspicous of GFM? Yes. Did they donate anyway? Probably some did and some didn’t. But “dumber than dirt.” Wow.
don’t feed the troll
How’s that pipe of hopium from GoFundMe taste? You morons deserve failure.
Spare me the hopium and self-righteous b.s., lady. GoFundMe has an established track record of defunding conservative causes. Sundance knows this. You know it as well. That means you are insane or dumber than dirt.
Who didn’t see this coming from 10 miles away when they announced GoScrewMe was the funding platform? Whoever within the convoy ranks who chose this platform should have their head examined or be vetted to ensure their not in bed with the totalitarian’s.
I’ve just disputed my credit card donation. If everybody does this, the hassle for the credit card companies might make them drop GoF*ckYou from doing business with them (of course, the credit card companies are likely all for this kind of bad faith theft).
Now that’s a clever idea!
Each credit card processing company has a variety of banks they deal with for funding merchant transactions,
depending on the size of the processing company.
Sickening is not a strong enough word. Back in the day, the left used to fight against “the man”. Now they are the man, except they are 100 times worse than what they were fighting back then.
Yep.
I posed a question to my 65 yr old poli sci professor in uni:
”So what happened to your generation.”
He didn’t understand the question.
I had to explain it to him.
I’m 70, and I don’t understand the question, either.
Boomer offspring of the Greatest Generation.
It’s not up to GFM to decide if this is “an illegal occupation” and what financial consequences would flow from that if it was.
GFM as a quasi Court unto itself is not unusual. Might very well be illegal…it’s not GFM’s money to seize.
There is a word to describe what they are doing: “embezzlement.”
First, those who donated, file their refund claim. Second, the lawyers need to file a liable lawsuit against GFM, demanding they and those who have claimed “the promotion of violence and harassment”, to prove it. SUE them. Sue them all. Go Fund Me, the police the provincial government. Force them to prove their claims.
Yes, it’s defamation.
And it is a smack in the face to every single Canadian that stood out in the freezing cold in support of the truckers.
Trudy has made them into extremists.
sounds good – will be over and done with in 4 or 5 years. Fill out the proper gfm form and get your money back.
don’t try to be tricky and dispute the cc charge or you’re open to getting screwed again.
Agreed, but that doesn’t solve the immediate problem. These truckers do not have two years to wade through a corrupt judicial system. This could turn very ugly very quickly. May God protect the truckers.
Exactly. This is another way the left wins. They throw so many roadblocks up that conservatives are left scrambling, not knowing which way to turn, how to prioritize they’re resources, having to expend enormous amounts of energy and money to fend off roadblock after roadblock, attack after attack. The left gets us good every time.
Saw that coming – I’m amazed they chose them.
F GoFundMe
Listening Viva Frei with Democracy Fund..
Right now. Today. I mean it.
The whole freedom loving world needs to go to Canada. Join the protest and turn hundreds of thousands into millions. Lech Walesa, Polish Solidarity style.
Stealing the peoples cash donations is the last straw. Spitting on the working class by openly saying they’re arbitrarily handing it over to BLM or some such commie group, is beyond the pale.
Concrete barricades ain’t shit to a couple million fed up individuals demanding the recognition of our freedoms.
No, right now this minute everyone should quit providing any kind of services to the libs, don’t deliver to them, don’t fix their stuff, don’t sell to them. Quit supporting them on every platform.
That people are repeatedly shocked that GoFundMe would play fair when it is a conservative cause raising money is one of the great mysteries.
Almost since it’s inception it has repeatedly shafted, shortchanged or short sheeted fundraising efforts that don’t align with liberal ideology.
Yet people still use it!
It. Hates.Us
Makes me scratch my head. This is not the first time they’ve done this.
When will citizens learn that the law is a tool to be used on the lawful so as to bend to the cheaters’ ways?
Immediate lawsuit.
“Illegal activity” can ONLY be adjudicated by a court of law.
NOT the police.
NOT “local authorities.”
How about pitchforks?
No surprise there … Bolsheviks have to stick together.