Emerald Robinson has a terrific outline on the RNC donor class priorities and the Machiavellian intents of Mike Pence throughout the term of Donald Trump’s presidency.
~ SEE HERE
“The Treachery of a Vice President“
Everything Robinson outlines rings true.
Read or listen to Jon McGreevey’s interviews that were released by Lin Wood early last year. Just a heads-up, very dark.
Dark like in the closet.
Mike Pence is a Lawyer…..A politician Lawyer……I’ve been telling you people for years about Lawyers(half of Congress are Lawyers)…It’s the one profession that can be directly related to the downfall of our Republic….I’m not sure why most people can’t or refuse to see the Cancer…..
Shakespeare was correct about what to do with lawyers.
I noticed that a lot of them were lawyers, just a few years ago. Don’t know why I didn’t realize it sooner, guess I just never knew a lawyer would WANT to be a politicial tool, but now it all makes sense.
There are also quite a few (some of the past members, too) who are doctors. That’s probably even scarier. Especially right now.
You must be a lawyer to stay out of jail in this profession.
Underated post!
I too have complained about lawyer politicians.
Law school=acting school.
These lawyer politicians are just actors following a script.
I believe for some of us, it’s not that we haven’t nor can’t see it, the question is how to stop it.
One is taught three primary principles in law school: 1. Admit nothing, 2. Deny everything, and 3: talk around any subject.
Sounds like political science. Gotta follow the science…
If most of the politicians were people who had been working in productive jobs like manufacturing, farming, engineering, construction and more with only a small percentage being lawyers, the US would have had a very different sort of government. It would also have helped with strict term limits, no cycling between congress and senate, no green youngsters or decepit oldies, and no political dynasties. They need to sacrifice a few years to serve the people and not make themselves rich.
A debt ridden lawyer who had to shack up with friends after the 2020 failure… no house, no money.
Not just lawyers.
Lawyers from the same law schools that clerked for the same judges etc… upon graduation before running for office.
These Congress critters have been hanging out and going to the same parties since their mid 20’s.
Yep, most from CCP feeder schools like Yale, Harvard, Columbia and Georgetown.
May I suggest that judges be added to that list of contributing to the downfall of the Republic. Many judges, if not most, are “failed” lawyers in black robes. Many, like Pence become “political” lawyers because they can’t cut it or failed in the private sector as lawyers and cannot earn the lavish lifestyle and power they desire. Therefore, they run to become county, or state judges (hoping for a Federal appointment or a run for a State Supreme Court) in order to accomplish that end via the taxpayer dollar.
Additionally, many, if not most, lawyers are leftist Democrats and they can use their power as a judge to advance their progressive ideology while living large off the taxpayer salary and benefits. This also eliminates the need to deal with the worries and struggle of competing in the marketplace. Just my humble opinion formed during observation of many “lawyers in black robes” throughout the years.
A Constitutional Amendment barring anyone who ever graduated law school from holding political office in the United States would go a long way to solving many of the Swamp’s problems.
Enlightening article… thanks for posting
i think one of the major problems that hamstrung Trump was getting rid of his head security man, if im not mistook they made Trump cut him loose.
They forced Flynn out, the one in his admin that would have been able to identify the swampy treasonous creatures surrounding them.
Yep they would not have gotten away with a lot of the stuff they did had Flynn been in the Administration. Thats why he had to go from Day One.
The more I know about professional politics and professional politicians, the more ashamed I am of spending time and money supporting Bush, Bush, Romney, McCain et effin’cetera. What trash such people are. I even worked like a dog for Ross Perot, only to watch him fade in the last moment with an excuse about his daughter’s wedding being threatened by who-knows-who.
It is infuriating.
I can hardly understand how a man of Donald Trump’s experience and expertise in managing large organizations could be so easily deceived. The benefit of the doubt that I’m giving Mr. Trump is derived from the hope I have of his genuine belief that (when he came to Washington as President) even though there were strong opposing views and forces at work in D.C., everybody was working for the overall good of the people of the United States.
A his 2020 rally in Wisconsin, shortly before the covid scam was unleashed, President Trump said, “When I came to Washington this time, I knew things were bad. I did not know they were evil.”
That single statement is the statement upon which I base the benefit of the doubt I now give to Donald J. Trump.
During his four years as President, Mr. Trump learned how wrong he was about Washington, even as his mere presence among those snakes and wolves revealed the vicious evil of those who boss the utterly corrupt FEDGOV bureaucracy.
Maybe Mr. Trump has the health, stamina, and determination to organize a sho’nuff redress and reform of the government. But honestly, redress and reform are up to us, not him. I hope Mr. Trump will use his skills as a manager and an executive to give us a fair chance. Mr. Trump has pulled back the curtain. Now everybody can see the pit of vipers who seek to destroy our American way of life.
Professional politics and professional politicians ain’t gettin’ it done, folks. Whorish pros like Pence have got it wired to go their way.
They expect us to follow the laws of the land. And if we don’t like what they do, they challenge us to run our own candidates in their rigged elections. And if we think the elections are rigged, they challenge us to prove it in court–before one of the judges they have in their pockets.
One way or another, the corruption must be rooted out before anything really changes. There are millions of sinecure-safe bureaucrats who serve as the army for the rotten officers at the top. That army must be disbanded. It’s millions of pages of rules and regulations must be thrown completely out.
Maybe the real Trump earthquake is just beginning. I sent Mr. Trump some money a few days ago thru the WinRed system. I wonder how much RNC is raking off the top of the millions Trump is raising? Don’t we deserve an answer to that simple question?
I agree with your assessment of the first term of President Trump. Our govt was overthrown via election fraud in 2020. My only interjection in your assessment of DC is the oppressive EVIL that is rampant and solidly in control. That is what Trump underestimated, but he learned quickly. I believe Almighty God should flush all the pagan evil of DC into the sea and return the natural wetlands habitat to a bird sanctuary. The rest would be casualties of war and collateral damage. Sodom & Gomorrah, U.S.
The odious, grifting, for-profit, candidate-threatening Wnred? 3.95% of the donaton, plus 30 cents. Millions upon millions given to RC insiders.
At least the ActBlue group is non-profit, and the commissions go to the DNC. Not Winred… That goes into private pockets, AND WR THREATENS CANDDATES WITH NO PARTY MONEY, UNLESS THEY RUN ALL THEIR FUNDRAISING THROUGH WINRED.
This is after several private orgs had gone to great expense to set up GOP-approved fundraising orgs. Their reward? Lawsuits to threaten them to shut down, AND then a grifting 4-point disclosure that turned one-time donations into recurring donations as the default, scamming seniors and small donors.
This resulted in a lawsuit against them, awarding $21 MILLION in damages and refunds back to donors for being scammed.
And THAT’S why I’ll NEVER donate through Winred…Ever again. Not even for P. Trump.
Thanks for the details.
The obvious question: Why does Mr. Trump continue raising money thru a system that is obviously corrupt?
If you ask for a refund you will get it. I did.
That’s why I don’t give either. I don’t want one cent going to the Republican Party.
Only donate directly to specific campaigns. Eliminate rnc, winred, etc. RNC only really supports democrats/rinos.
Personally, I’m having a difficult time finding how to donate directly to specific candidates not aligned with WR. And I’m with you, nada through them.
Great analysis. The only thing I would add is, once we take “them” up on their challenge, they threaten us.
The “money quote”:
“They expect us to follow the laws of the land. And if we don’t like what they do, they challenge us to run our own candidates in their rigged elections. And if we think the elections are rigged, they challenge us to prove it in court–before one of the judges they have in their pockets.”
So many Christians thought Pence was a “good guy”. We knew beyond a shadow of a doubt on election day that he is pure swamp. He needs to go away with his tail between his legs. He lost all credibility on that day. He needs to ask the Lord for forgiveness for betraying us.
He played his role as deep state backup perfectly.
Yes. I remember calling out wife of Pence and her body language many times on here and being attacked. She was a fake and so is he. I also feel Melania knew she was a fake. Just because someone says they are christian does not mean they are not an evil pos. Why it is still a debate is beyond me….the pos went to Biden’s inauguration instead of President Trumps celebration. It would be nice if we could compute Pence is a pos and move forward. Treat him as a pos not worthy of listening to.
My sentiments exactly…..I always told my husband watch Karen Pence’s body language everytime she is near Melania or Trump….
IT SPOKE VOLUMES
Pence showed he was swamp during the dust up over the Religious Freedom Act the Indiana legislature passed. Pence ultimately caved to the NCAA by signing the act to rescind it because of threats from the NCAA .
I stayed in the fold in 2008 when McCain selected Palin for VP. My vote in 2008 was for Palin.
I had misgivings about Trump in 2016 and the Pence pick solidified those misgivings. I voted 3rd party.
Trump did enough to allay my misgivings so I voted for him in 2020.
Note his hairdo, his facial expressions, his clothing, and then…at long last hear him speak of his “deep religious” convictions and how he never spends alone time with any woman except his wife. Ask yourself if this sounds like a “very rigid personality” type.
Not sure of that spiritual reality with him? Ok, look up some old youtube vidoes of gospel singer John Starnes (lead vocalist with early Jimmy Swaggart crusades 1980s), listen to him sing, sense his spirituality and then compare that to Pence’s rigid protestations of faith.
Pence carries his “godliness” externally, like a protective shield, while Starne’s spiritual being is internally active energizing his vocal cords in song. Who would you rather “pray” with in times of need?
Pence and Joel Osteen worship the same deity. And that god is not named Jesus Christ.
Not sure really is attracted to women in the first place.
Maybe the days are over of conservative nominees picking RINOS to placate the establishment. Where is that law written? It would be suicide for PDJT to do that again.
Trump was only allowed to nominate swamp creatures res/deep staters.
And he still had 400+ nominees sitting in the Senate during the 2020 election.
At this point the only ticket I’d trust is a Don and Don jr ticket.
Such a good “Christian” – how disgusting. My problem is why does President Trump allow these atrocities? He’s not stupid- is it just politics and Trump just has to deal with it?? Time will tell.
He picked who the Deep State allowed him to pick. Remember when he wanted to nominate Ratcliffe for DNI and he got blocked by Mitch McConnell? Trump was threatened into submission the entire administration.
Trump had no actual allies inside the DC establishment. The RNC kept believing up to the very end of the 2016 election that Hillary was a shoe-in for victory.
Trump ran a much smaller campaign operation winning presidency than anyone in decades and decades. Unfortunately, half of that small team were likely plants from the Establishment and Intel communities.
You can easily pick out who Trump’s actual allies were as he won the presidency – they were relentlessly hounded by the Democrats over his presidency like Roger Stone and General Flynn. Made men like Pence were left entirely alone, protected by the RINO leadership.
Last weekend I saw politics movie, ‘Ides of March’ made back in 2011. Freebie. The dialogues were enlightening.
Politics is a snake pit. Pence came from that pit to poison MAGA. Pence (&wife) need to face his evil deeds. That pair cannot make up for what they have done to ALL people all over the world, alive and gone.
In the LORD’S hands.
I believe President Trump knew he was fighting snakes (he read that story often). He got bit many times. Kept going…for us. Love my President Trump.
President had no real power. None. He only could do what the operating government, CCP of the Americas, let him do.
Robinson writes that GOP voters were surprised that Pence was a coward. The only reason for that was they didn’t pay attention. He demonstrated cowardice while he was still Governor of Indiana. Remember the Religious Freedom Act he signed and then rescinded in the dust up with the NCAA. Yep, sheer cowardice.
Remember when he fought against Catholic organization bringing in refugees but then when said and done he did not get in way of them getting benefits?
Pence never staffed himself with Trump supporters? Heck, Trump never staffed himself with Trump supporters.
We stubborn hold-outs like to tell ourselves that POTUS, a Manhattan developer, had six weeks and no rolodex to come up with an administration. And at every turn he was told: “You really need this guy. He knows how to get his way around Washington.” That’s how he got saddled with Manafort. Sessions was almost certainly a Deep State plant who arguably was the most costly mistake of Trump’s Presidency. Unrecoverable, albeit naive, personnnel choices. That’s the kimono we eternally drape over Trump’s modesty. Does he warrant our efforts? There are some days you could push me either way with a feather.
I think I may be the biggest believer in the Uniparty’s almost-unbreachable power. Pence? He’s a Unipartyite. DeSantis? He needs money (like everyone else) which makes him a de facto Unipartyite even if he might like not to be, which is debatable frankly about all of them. You need a billion dollars to become President. Not that you really need a billion. But the arduous and insanely long process is designed to require that sum in order to enshrine a culture of beholdenness. Tail wag dog.
Whenever I read SD posts up here railing against the hopelessly corrupt Democratic Party (which it most certainly is), I always sort of detect a hidden inference that the Republicans are better and the sooner we get them back in…well, you know, things will get better. This is vintage Quigley: “Throw the old bums out. Throw the new bums in.”
Yup, I think for all SD’s well-deserved credit popularizing the Uniparty construct, it seems even he likes to get out from under it from time to time. Throwing confetti is fun, just like the Era of Ike all over again and well it sure beats the unremittingly grim Quigley cul de sac we really live in. So I forgive SD his occasional wistful lapses.
The truth is, it’s only Trump. And if it isn’t Trump, it’s no one. Yet imagine trying to run a teetering Republic on the back of a fully boostered 78-year-old? Dear America, how the eff did you manage to get into this predicament? Oh yes, 70 years of derelicted duty in the Office of Self-Determination. The CIA’s economic hitmen are all played out overseas. They’ve come home to ply the predations we bankrolled on their behalf, here at home.
Too many nevertrumpers are for DeSantis. Why?
I didn’t know all the background of the people in the article. Some, but not all. I did warn people about Pence when he was first picked as Trump’s running mate. Never trusted him. He’ll never make it in the top spots again. Too many MAGA people hate him now. The GOP can pound sand. It’s the MAGA party with Trump leading it. If the GOP doesn’t get in line, their candidates will fall by the wayside.
OMG, Pence is the personification of Machiavelli’s “The Prince.” He is the living, flesh and blood, definition of the ends justifies the means.
….more like “Et tu, Brute.”
I was wrong about AG Barr — I so wanted him to be on the level, honest, and a man of character. His betrayal blew me down.
But Pence? I was right about him from the get go. The Kushner couple who promoted Pence were not people I ever trusted, for one thing.
But my memory of one certain interview Pence gave on radio to Hannity was the kicker: Pence as much as swore up and down that he opposed a certain legislation (this during his congressional tenure); then what do you know? When the vote came up he turned coat and voted for it. I have never forgotten what a thoroughly gifted liar he was/is. The issue in question was one I had been keenly following — so his lying to us hit me hard at the time.
From then on I knew that his religious talk was nothing more than a pragmatic pose, used to hood-wink the Christian Right.
His performance on Jan 6 was no surprise, although even then I was hoping and praying that I had been wrong about him.
His performance with the corrupt Fauci/Brix diabolical duo was an absolute abomination — so I should not have even hoped that Jan. 6 would have been any different than it was.
Benedict Pence is how I shall always remember him.
Side-note: I haven’t listened to Hannity in more than 11 years.
I defended Barr, and I thought Pence was a good guy……I have no where to go but UP!
Mike Pence and Judas Iscariot have a lot in common, but at least Judas regretted his treachery and punished himself.
The 9th Level of Hell awaits Mike Pence.
Instead Pence solicits money for his supposed campaign…blood money..he gets rich from his treachery
who are his donors?
Can’t name any donors, but I can identify one of Pence’s support platforms. An outfit that I no longer support: Ralph Reed’s “Faith and Freedom Coalition”. They fawned over Judas Pence at a recent “conservative Christian forum” which donors could attend for a price. F&FC sends out fundraising solicitation letters that look very very much like RNC mailings. I used to believe Ralph Reed was the real deal, when he chaired the Christian Coalition. Not any more.
Old article, way back to 2006, but introduces Ralph Reed to those not familiar with him. https://www.gq.com/story/ralph-reed-gop-lobbyist-jack-abramoff
Emerald Robinson is so brilliant. She is really missed on Newsmax. She is more effective with her own thing. I signed up for her newsletter.
I have thought for quite a while that Pence was behind the firing of General Flynn, which was the worst thing to happen in the whole Trump administration. Pence was also part of the Access Hollywood tape fiasco, as the best friend of Paul Ryan.
I sent this to President Trump.
Emerald Robinson is just one more angry arm chair quarterback out of slew of angry arm chair quarterbacks reaching for relevancy.
And the theme these second guessers push is always the same theme: every skunk in Washington was out to get Trump. And the skunk leader was Pence.
Here, Emerald Robinson is grinding her teeth over the fact Pence didn’t challenge the election.
Leaving aside that her contentions are made up of a series of innuendos, I wonder what she would have done had she stood in Pence’s shoes?
Would she (or anyone, for that matter) have had the guts to challenge the election and throw the country into turmoil? Short answer- hell no. Bet the house that second guessers will never bring that thought up. Humility is rarely found in the vicinity of armchair quarterbacks.
The country was already in turmoil.
When Pence chose not to require the states with multiple sets of electors to clean up their act, he allowed the continuation of the planned turmoil.
We can play: what if? all we want today, but on 1.6.21 the majority of the nation wanted the chaotic election to be strightened out – then. IF he truly were a strong righteous man as he claimed, he would have forced the states’ corruption to be addressed at the state level.
Righteous people have always stood up knowing that evil creates turmoil, that you have to confront it or else it continues creating more turmoil, such as we have today. Yes indeed, people of the founding generations would have stood up.
When evil occured in my life, I did stand. It was uncomfortable to do, it was costly, but it was right.
Not everyone is corrupt.
Very well said.
Pence SAID he was going to reject the electors from the contested states. He lied to President Trump, right to his face. Then at literally the very last second – as he entered the House to gavel the joint session of Congress to order – he tweeted out that he would NOT in fact be going through with it.
And just to be clear: 2020 was the first contested Presidential election since 1876. And all Pence would have been doing is refusing to count electors from contested states UNTIL the state legislatures resolved the matter.
And who knows: The state legislatures might very well have re-affirmed the Biden electors and then that would be that. And as angry and disappointed as everyone would be, NOBODY could say they left anything on the table. Every avenue of redress would have been pursued and exhausted.
Pence cheated all of us that day, not just President Trump. In fact you could even say he cheated Joe Biden, by leaving the stink of using a technicality to slime into the White House illegitimately.
…and, very big AND. Eight states specifically requested that pence delay the proceedings and give them 10 days to sort out these issues. They never asked him to “overturn the election”. That is one of the biggest lies in all of this.
One of the things too many people don’t understand is the presidential election is unlike any other. The state legislatures, not the courts, have the final jurisdiction on these matters. Choosing presidential electors is their plenary power under the Constitution.
If it had been an election for Congress … or sheriff … or dog catcher … the election would have been thrown out, no question about it. But only the state legislatures can award electors, or take them away. It’s a political question, not a legal one. This is the big reason why no court would step in.
Not their circus, not their monkeys.
Yes. Could the state legislatures for the disputed states have refused to send electors?
“Pence SAID he was going to reject the electors from the contested states.”
Find me a source for what your saying and I may believe you.
The source is a civics professor who is on Twitter and Telegram (and Gettr too, I believe) under the name Maximus_4EVR. He was tweeting about the Elector Counting Act (ECA) of 1886 during the period after election day all the way up to January 6. He explained that the Vice President always assumed the role of election judge counting the Electoral College, until the s**tshow of 1876 which was the impetus for Congress to pass the ECA. It has long been argued that the ECA of 1886 is unconstitutional in that Congress cannot strip the Vice President of his Constitutional authority through legislation. There was never a contested presidential election, however, to put it to the test until 2020.
These tweets caught the attention of Trump’s people, and the professor did in fact speak directly with them. The plan was as outlined above: Pence would refuse to count electors from the contested states, and send it back to the respective state legislatures to resolve the contest. Even under the terms of the ECA of 1886 “safe harbor” is contingent upon all election challenges being resolved.
The key element was TIME. None of the state legislatures had succeeded in calling a special session, and they had just reconvened for the new year. The idea was even if Biden sued Pence and it went to SCOTUS, that would take several days at least during which time the state legislatures could work on resolving the conflict. Even if SCOTUS ruled against the vice president, the legislatures would get the desperately needed week or 10 days.
The key here is, Pence said he would do it. Trump had his doubts and you may recall him publicly encouraging Pence to man up and have the courage to do the right thing. History will judge him a great man if he does.
And then, as President Trump spoke to his supporters, Pence tweeted out “Nah, not gonna do it.”
Think about it: Why else WOULD Pence tweet at all, if he wasn’t backing out?
Remember Pence’s Pelosi Elbow Bump? And the subtle passing of some sort of medallion to Pence that followed it? Good luck trying to find those videos now.
Would she (or anyone, for that matter) have had the guts to challenge the election and throw the country into turmoil?
From my ‘armchair’ to yours:
Pence’s decision has thrown the country into turmoil. It is a slow tortuous ‘decline’. This we know IMO…the other we don’t.
You didn’t answer the question
Johnny, I did answer your hypothetical question. I answered with what we know.
I smell a rat.
Scores of people are just now catching on, owing in part to the success of the commie/harlot press.
These scores of people no doubt will benefit from a fresh take on recent history. I applaud Emerald Robinson for her efforts at setting the record straight.
It just occurred to me that perhaps the dementia playing out loudly in the media s a lead-up to using President Trump’s age against him come 2024.
Fortunately, Trump actually uses/exercises his brain regularly. Biden has never really had to use his brain so it atrophied early on. Trump’s mental function should remain good, but his fully vaxxed status and lack of sufficient sleep are wildcards.
I’m not going to pretend it ISN’T an issue. One of the great tragedies of Biden succeeding in stealing 2020 is President Trump will now have to wait until he’s 79 years old to be president again. The four years between 75 and 79 are different than the years between 79 and 83.
I pray for him. But he’s only a mortal man.
After reading through this, I find the thought of enjoying lunch may be impossible today.
To be fair, I never trusted Pence after the whole Flynn thing. I didn’t have the detailed view the referenced article’s author had, but if felt VERY wrong from the start.
On one hand, the surface looks like Trump was completely taken advantage of. On the other, knowing that Trump is probably 10 times more clever than the swamp and that he likely has/had counter-swamp advisors who started him down this presidential path in the first place. So was this actually Trump’s intention? To have the swamp create the evidence of their treachery from start to finish?
I don’t know which. I know the first option brings me to a morbid outlook to our futures and the other brings me great hope. So this emotional stress and strain is wearing VERY heavily on me and had been for all of these years.
Trump was far too trusting of his daughter and her husband.
Those two are at the top of a not-so-short list of, shall we say, questionable advisors Trump listened to.
The larger problem is that Republicans like Pence and the McConnell crowd couldn’t care less. And why should they.. They’re being well-paid, aren’t they?
Pence’s treachery has always been obvious, as he sat silently by, never coming to PDJT’s aid. TPTB whispered to him he could have “precious”, if he just sat back and let them take care of PDJT.
Like all weak and corrupt men, he listened, and then lusted after that power. The Ring would be his. He is the most despicable of men who hide their treachery behind a veil of religion.
Obvious but when broken down by connections and other details, it’s undeniable and clear to present to others who still doesn’t understand the swamp.
The “Republicans” and the “Democrats” are separate but they both defend each other because they both share common elements of corruption. They both profit from the same things and know what evils the others are doing. The Republican side of the swamp is OK with keeping things as they are, but the Democratic Socialists want to take us into a globalist communist state and the Republicans don’t care to fight it as their loyalty is with themselves not the people of the USA. (They absolutely share disdain for this country and the people who call the USA home.)
Agree wholeheartedly
It is extra revolting when the snake wraps himself in righteousness. How hard would it have been after screwing Flynn over to say “I was wrong “ and make public and private apologies? He showed who and what he was back then.
When Pence never acknowledged Flynn’s innocence, I knew he was part of the plot.
Excellent reporting from CTH, as usual.
The word “treachery” is completely apropos. Pence outwardly professed support for President Trump but worked tirelessly behind the scenes to undermine him.
His January 6 treachery, however, stands apart. The plan was for Pence to reject electors from contested states, and he told everyone he was 100% aboard with doing it. It was timed for President Trump to finish speaking to the rally, in which he outlined the case proving fraud, and then send the crowd over to the Capitol; this was supposed to happen immediately before Pence gaveled the Joint Session of Congress to order at noon.
As President Trump was finishing his speech – which ran several minutes long – Pence tweeted out that he would NOT be going through with the agreed upon plan. He simultaneously pulled the rug out from under President Trump, and stabbed him in the back. Literally, at the very last second.
And in so doing Pence betrayed his Constitutional duty to the nation and our people to appease the corrupt Deep State Big Club of which he is a member in good standing. Mike Pence installed Joe Biden in the White House, illegitimately.
This public rebuke of President Trump has echoes of Paul Ryan cancelling their joint rally after the Access Hollywood tapes came out. A stunt designed to embarrass the President in the worst way possible.
On Jan 6 when the cameras were on Pence in the chamber did anyone else ‘sense’ that there was a rehearsed feel
when they all stopped voting/talking and left the chamber ?
Rob Portman ( I think) was talking and then looked over at Pence as if for a cue??
It’s not without reason to suspect the “riot” at the Capitol was designed to overshadow President Trump’s speech. He made the case, citing all the evidence, for massive fraud in the presidential election. The president’s speech was newsworthy, so they needed a bigger story to drown it out.
Hence the light security and presence of agent provocateurs. Even if not one single authentic MAGA supporter entered the Capitol there were plenty of shills there to do the job without their participation.
Oh absolutely, the minute the reptiles heard about PDJT’s J6 speech, they started conniving. Never let ANY opportunity go to waste, turn it into a crisis…
I think is was Paul Gosar, congressman from AZ, who was speaking to the point of valid electors when the chamber’s doors were flung open and a message delivered to Pelosi; whereupon the signal was given to the democrat side of the chambers, and in unison that contingent hastily left the room, to the mystified Republican side of the room whose members exchanged puzzled looks.
The democrats, IOW, did not need to be told what was happening in the building; it was only the dems who understood the urgency of retreating; the Republicans remaining, clueless: I contend Pelosi’s confederates had been forewarned of the plot.
They were a part of the plot. They were told, hence, the games begin. You all need to leave.
It all was timed, choreographed for reason for President Trump’s faux supporters to erupt in insurrection.
President Trump taking a few minutes longer than planned shines light on the pre-planned faux insurrection.
“Pence outwardly professed support for President Trump but worked tirelessly behind the scenes to undermine him.”
Where are you getting this “behind the scene” stuff? Were you there or something?
How about backing your claim up with one believable reference? Please.
Pence’s staff, for one. Full of Never Trumper types that were butting heads with the MAGA staff like Hope Hicks. Not sure why you’re so hung up on defending Pence. He’s not once defended POTUS Trump or Trump supporters since J6.
Yes. When Page/Strzok and the other traitors were seeking to plant some spies in the White House, where did they first look?
Pence’s right hand man.
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re: “Pence tweeted out that he would NOT be going through with the agreed upon plan.” I may be missing it, but that tweet appears to have been deleted from Pence’s archived Twitter acct. Do you have a screenshot? Thanks.
Sorry, it might not have been a tweet. It was a letter.
The whole point of the exercise was to assert that the VP does in fact have the authority. Even if SCOTUS ruled against him, the purpose was to buy time for the state legislatures.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/06/mike-pence-tells-congress-he-will-not-reject-electoral-college-votes/
Pence had 12 years in the Congress and accomplished “ZERO”
Mike Pompeo is another man that needs to be “Undressed”.
I can see how his record can be used as a performance measurement. In my book we don’t need 365/24/7 new laws, rules, regulations and taxes.
Agreed. Hate how the media, left and right, likes to equate “getting stuff done” ie. passing legislation as being positive for Americans. It’s never improve this bad statistic or do what the majority of the public wants. Just sign bills into law and create more regulations.
Accomplishing zero is a good thing. Almost everything they accomplish trashes the country further.
The dumb thing is, if Pence hadn’t been such a political schmuck he (and Haley for that matter) was guaranteed the 2024 nomination and likely win in carrying out Trump’s MAGA Agenda. He had it “in the bag” and threw it away in embracing the steal over holding those involved accountable for their attempts top overthrown the Constitutional Republic. He had it, guaranteed, for all who loved Trump loved him by proxy. What a total idiot.
Pence’s 10% showing in polls is probably nearly all people who still associate him with President Trump.
Perhaps Pence’s financial calculus showed his net worth growing faster if he protected his careerist allies. Pence does seem to like the security of (taxpayer-supplied) income.
Who were the people/forces behind Pence getting the VP nomination in the first place? Who brought his name to Trump? Make sure they are squashed before the 2024 convention.
That would be Ivanka and Jared. Trump had said (in an interview) that he wanted Chris Christie to be his VP but Ivanka and Jared wanted Pence. So, Trump listened to his unelected daughter and her unelected husband, and selected Pence as his VP.
That is likely because there was bad blood between
Jared and Christie who sent his father to prison..so
of course Jared would not want Christie as VP. and
have to work with him..
Maybe. But I have in addition to their choice of Pence other factors — off topic — for which I hold highly negative opinions of the Kushner couple.
I don’t know if you read In Trump Time by Peter Navarro but he definitely does not like Kushner who did a lot of behind the back stuff and is the person responsible for not lining up the legal team necessary to deal with the voting fraud…that was Kushners assignment and he decided not to waste his time on that and instead look to 2024..what a complete back stabber..no wonder those two have disappeared.
No, i’ve not read that book. I didn’t know Jared the snake was in charge of putting together the legal team to address the 2020 election fraud. And yes, in light of that, it makes a lot of sense as to why Ivanka and Jared seem to have disappeared from the public eye. She’s ambitious though. Watch her and the snake both come crawling back out of the floorboards when Trump is nominated again in 2024. I think she has it in her mind that one day she’s going to be sitting in the Oval Office as president. I’d never vote for her.
One more reason to strongly distrust I and J.
I hadn’t read your 12:42 comment, littleflower481, when I entered mine at 2:04.
That makes no sense. Just saying.
What part makes no sense? That Trump wanted Christie as his VP, or that he listened to Ivanka and Jared about selecting Pence? I watched the interview where he talked about wanting Christie as his VP. He said “I always trust my gut. My gut instinct was to pick Chris as my VP. Ivanka and Jared wanted Mike.”
They were Democrats. What do they know about Rino politics? Maybe they were bamboozled by Mike Pence’s evangelical/catholic milquetoasty, squeaky clean reputation. And, as a Christian maybe he wouldn’t have PDJT assassinated to finally sit in the soft chair.
Jared Kushner was busy with Middle East PEACE. Ivanka Trump is a business type-not a politician. Why the heck would she want to be in that sh!t hole Oval Office, which is what it has become for anyone but TRUMP himself. He is the only person with the fortitude to stay in this fight and clean up 60+ years of presidential funk.
Five years ago, when I dared suggest that Ivanka and Jared did not have Donald’s best interests at heart, I was pilloried off this forum. CTH commenters called me everything short of Harry Reid for sounding an alarm about “Javanka”, in 2016. Funny, that this aging amateur politic observer could foresee what so many on here did not.
Thought of this after reading Emerald Robinson’s great article (TY SD).
I watched almost every one of the daily 2020 covid press conferences.
And I’ve mentioned here before Pence’s eyes and rigidity during them so it’s not only that.
It seemed off to me or fake how Pence, when he did address the podium would compliment and credit President Trump with covid response. I’d hear him say “President Trump” many times each time when he did speak. (Hit me as odd back then because in my gut I didn’t think Pence liked our President.)
Pence would stand there rigidly, eyes forward, unemotional while the press would bash PTrump left and right. And then Pence would turn around and ‘credit’ PTrump with covid decisions and aid!
Sooo, in hindsight, maybe Pence was trying to lay any (covid response) blame onto President Trump.
When it came time to certify the Electoral College votes, Pence had a chance to save America, and didn’t.
Pence saved Pence.
Period. Full stop.
What I find fascinating is that the Democrat Party in going to steal the 2024 election but they can’t find ONE SINGLE PERSON to put that is not completely despised enough to at least LOOK like they can get as many votes as they well need to be a MAGA candidate.
That’s why they’re going to go full-commie, with all the lying, cheating, and media control that criminals use to exert power and inflict misery — their stock-in-trade.
Gird your loins.
Sometimes, there are news-making incidents with conservative politicians that stick out in my mind. Some incidents are political, e.g. when Rick Santorum sat on a stage and endorsed Arlen Specter, I knew I’d never trust old Rick again. Other times, the incidents are personal, like when Ted Cruz couldn’t just outright say he’d never cheated on Heidi – I figured then he probably had and that he couldn’t be trusted. Sometimes the incidents are unsolicited personal reactions, like when Matt Gaetz called the pictures of the naked, pot smoking Congress lady preying on her intern “revenge porn.” I’ll always be worried now that Matt has some Roberts-like skeleton in his closet and shouldn’t be trusted. And then there’s Mike Pence, whom I began to worry about when that fly landed on his hair sprayed head during his debate with Kamala. But on January 6, 2001, Mike Pence surpassed Rick Santorum in the depths of my disrespect and disappointment. With Rick, I was still able to hold my nose and vote for him, but I’ll vote for Mike Pence over my dead body.
Some politicians appear to mock the Almighty when, after swearing an oath to protect this country and its citizens with a hand on the good book, they seem to sell out hundreds of millions of people.
They surely know who they are even if we can only suspect by observing their actions.
I wonder if those that have Intentionally dealt great injuries to this country ever worry and wonder what will happen if they don’t live forever.
Just wondering……
That’s right. At the last minute pence changed his mind maybe trying to get the protesters to get angry and cause damage. Except they didn’t.
Brutus
I bought and read the book, The Faith of Mike Pence after meeting the author, who is a true Christian. In the book, Pence said he had a vision, premonition, or somesuch (can’t remember exactly) that he would become president someday.
Isn’t that the ultimate irony? If he had not backstabbed Trump, he likely could have been President following Trump. Now, he AND Nikki have been exposed and Pence appeals to no one.
That vision had only one chance for fruition. It passed when the Specious Counsel could not force a resignation and Impeachment failed. Dems and Rino’s would have been perfectly happy with a Pence presidency, ending much of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
When I saw the photo of Olivia Troy, I was appalled. Apart from her extremely weird appearance and expression, she is a child. Who in their right mind would put an entire nation’s response to a pandemic into the hands of a weird child with no medical background? Pence knew, and allowed it to happen. Therefore, he either didn’t care or wanted things to go wrong. I don’t know which is worse.
As a Christian, I am forbidden from judging people’s hearts. But we can judge people’s actions. Pence’s action in allowing responsibility given to him to be delegated to someone incompetent to carry it is the height of irresponsibility. They kept her pretty dark, didn’t they?
Sorry, Troye.
The thing I despise most about Mike Pence is the way he paraded around as a sincere Christian.
T finally lobbed one at Graham re not pardoning 1/6 imprisoned….”he’s a nice guy but he’s a RiNo who doesn’t know what he’s talking about”.
Never liked him from the get go. Too wishy washy and goody goody. All that nonsense about never being alone with a woman other than his wife. Something about him always gave me the creeps, could never put my finger on it. Pence and Nikki are a great team. Back stabbers.
Me too, Em. Everyone was saying what a great guy he was, so religious. But every time I saw him, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up, and my radar went off.
[Chorus]
(What they do?)
(They smilin’ in your face)
All the time, they want to take your place
The back stabbers (Back stabbers)
(They smilin’ in your face)
All the time they want to take your place
The back stabbers (Back stabbers)
Trump picked Pence because he needed to shore up the “social/moral conservative” votes in the party. Given how Pence undermined him, moral is kind of a joke. It is easy to criticize Trump for being a poor judge of character, but the Swamp is such that 99.9% of the political class is corrupted or on their way to becoming corrupted shortly after starting their career in D.C. and the Establishment sits them down and gives them the business. I remember Ric Grennell mentioning how in an “ideal” situation, Trump would hire nothing but D.C. outsiders, implying that any D.C. insiders were already corrupt and could not be trusted. I mean, Trump had a gazillion appointments to make, and while it’s easy to criticize his poor judgment of character, whom can you find that is not already corrupted? Not so easy.
I want the world to know Pence destroyed America
Maybe it’s time to replace the term “Machiavellian” with a term that updates the horrendous treachery and back stabbing that exists in the present day GOP. ie. Penceian.
McCarthyan, McConnellan, so many to choose from…
WTF Twitter suspended her account
Maybe that’s why 45 read The Snake poem at the TX rally last Saturday. Yep.
Pence always came across as sincere as Jimmy Swaggart and his frumpy wife was a bitch on wheels who made it clear she thought she was too good to be near any Trump.
Time to rebuild the party and the government !! Too many sellouts for the cash………….
The Donald in more ways than one at least unmasked the party RINO’s. We owe him our thanks for that. Now it’s our job to vote the traitors out.
I ask over and over…and put who in their place? All I am seeing is another pack of rinos around here.
All I can say is wow… just wow. Great reporting. I’m sure Sundance has eluded to this in the past.
Ive told people he was a deep state plant since 2016. Why?
Not one single MSM outfit attacked Pence or his family. NOT ONE. They demonized everyone else but him. And you can see his character by looking into those beady little eyes. Human filth. Everyone told me I was nuts. Till January 6th, 2021
Sorry, it’s a little off topic but this is really good:
Please don’t apologize for showing this. Thank you. We all need to hear this.
What we would have been doing 60 years ago when we were the most powerful country in the world. I remember, I was here.
The abused Reverend needs to be posted as often as possible. What a great man.