Emerald Robinson has a terrific outline on the RNC donor class priorities and the Machiavellian intents of Mike Pence throughout the term of Donald Trump’s presidency.
~ SEE HERE
“The Treachery of a Vice President“
Everything Robinson outlines rings true.
Great article, Emerald is terrific.
Lets not forget the 7 figure book deal from liberal publisher Simon & Schuster so Pence can spew his lies before the next Pres. primaries.
Pence will want to take credit for all Trumps acccomplishments that Pence was trying so hard to sabotage behind the scenes. Pence is not trustworthy and quite evil.
Pence started the infighting early after Trump’s election. Even before canning Flynn.
Pence to Take Over Trump White House Transition Process (freebeacon.com)
Now, just why couldn’t Trump choose good people to serve him?
Pence was always loyal in the face of overwhelming lies about Trump. (Loyal to himself that is.)
Is Pence Prepping To Take Over For Trump? | The Daily Wire
“Now, just why couldn’t Trump choose good people to serve him?”
It has been noted countless times by both Sundance and by numerous Treepers in this CTH Blog, that Candidate-then-President Trump was not permitted to “choose” ANYONE who would occupy an official position that had to be formally approved by the GOP-run Senate OR by the GOP Party “elders” (who ran the Party operations specifically to suit their interests.)
In all of those Executive Branch / Administration positions that had to be filled, President Trump was always given a selection of pre-screened candidates from which he was told to choose. People who he knew and thought were being helpful often “suggested” names of candidates they told him would be loyal / good / etc. Those so called “friends and acquaintances” all lied to his face.
The pre-screening, unbeknownst to him, was for the candidates who had proven their first loyalty to the GOP Party and the Establishment (Deep State) above all.
It appears the second part of the pre-screening was for their ability to deceive the President into believing they were going to support him, when in fact they would be working with the Establishment RINOs to undermine and hopefully force him from office so that Pence would replace him, per the Constitution order of succession.
If Trump were the outsider he claimed to be, why not submit his own choices for appointment, so as to SMOKE OUT the RINOs?
See https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/01/mike-pence-undressed/#comment-8505135
I can tell you have never been stuck between a rock and a hard thing. Lucky you! Will you be running for POTUS?
President Trump probably did submit his personal choices for most positions but…(please go back and re-read what I wrote above)….
The Hard lesson here: The president does NOT have final say on who gets approved by the Senate to be appointed to Cabinet and other high positions of authority in the Executive Branch. And you probably know by now that President Trump did NOT have ANY allies in the Senate in 2016 or 2017. They were ALL corrupt Deep State-controlled Establishment RINOs; not a single one a MAGA-oriented, principled conservative.
For more explanation about the process, Try this:
“Across the federal government, nearly 1,200 executive-level jobs may be filled only by individuals appointed by the president and approved by a simple majority vote of the Senate.”
Ref. https://www.thoughtco.com/presidentially-appointed-jobs-requiring-senate-approval-3322227
When Senate approval was required, McConnell could tell Trump for whom he would fight for and for whom he wouldn’t.
Smoking out the RINO’S is one of Trumps biggest accomplishments! You can not blame President Trump for the treasonous treacherous actions of theses liars. When they were discovered he did what he had to do. In spite of all ( and there was too much to keep up with ) the oppositons he dealt for 4 years he accomplished more than anyone could have hoped for! The man is a true honest to God leader. Don’t get mad get even.
Thank you, you answered the question I posed (but posed the question before reading your post 🙂 )
See what I wrote. Why not just blow off the screening and install us??? https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/01/mike-pence-undressed/#comment-8505135
I am pointing out Pence had a major role in filling Trump’s White House with all the traitors that betrayed us over Trump’s time in office. He literally took control of the process of staffing.
Staffing is a major undertaking. There are over 4000 positions a president needs to fill. It is not something one person can do in just a few short weeks. And it is the most critical thing any White House does, setting their path to success or FJB type failure.
And of course, support and loyalty during a campaign are often rewarded with appointments. Failing to reward the losers’ staffs with jobs often create lifelong enmity. But giving them jobs leads to undermining leaks as they support their losing pledges over the winning ones. Just look at Reagan’s tenure.
But Trump was disserved by those Pence ‘helped’ him select to accomplish his promises. So many fought Trump, and each other, tooth and nail and then burned every bridge as they flamed out.
This is definitely a spot that needs a loyal insider, loyal to both the President and the people who elected him.
Trump was new in DC and didn’t know who he could trust or not trust. Now he knows.
Yes, he knows NOT to trust the GOP establishment…I hope.
Ad yet he never gave his most loyal employee a position…Corey Lewandowski. I never figured out that one.
Biding his time! And it will come.
I think it is great that Pence is running for President. He is going to crash and burn. And, he has effectively removed himself from Vice Presidential consideration.
His Facebook page is hilarious, everyone hates him. Thing is, is everyone hated Biden…
Yeah…the resident was installed through cheating.
Hahahahahahaha! Poor little misguided sheeple. Trump would never ever accept a Vice President position. Only the the position he WILL win, The Presidency !
I smelled a rat the moment when Judas Pence threw Mike Flynn under the bus. Hey Pence, do the only honorable thing left for despicable scumbags such as yourself. The real Judas offed himself.
Pence may get rich, but we will always despise him and never vote for him. Was it worth it, Mike?
“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor”
Pence may be temporally wealthy, but spiritually he’s as broke as Judas.
In his heart of hearts he knows he’s a coward.
He was so concerned about not committing adultery but ok with being a backstabbing traitor.
I’d rather he stepped out on Karen but stayed faithful to US!!!
I suspect that she was the power behind the throne.
Karen Pence was married before she married Mike Pence. They were both Catholic at one time..
Interesting. Both choosing personal happiness over their religious convictions.
Amen! No amount of praying will ever right his wrong. He wronged an entire country!
AND he’s going to burn in hell. His disloyalty surely springs from his treachery to God.
Put Bill Whittle on that list of traitors too. He was singing Judas Pence’s praises as a more acceptable and appropriate President before President TRUMP had even left the White House, and before the FAKE J6 BIG LIE.
FBW
These two I find troubling. It was said that Pence took over Healthcare in 2019. This article is about pro-life influence, but it claims, half a year before COVID happened, that Pence had taken over.
How Mike Pence’s ‘Indiana mafia’ took over health care policy- POLITICO
That positioned Pence quite well. When the chips were down, throw a few friends under the bus and convince Trump to give you the lead.
How Pence took over Trump’s coronavirus response- POLITICO
I am now very curious about the ‘origination’ of Covid. Much more than before.
What was Pence’s role in getting the ‘Modernization of the Flu Vaccine’ EO? It was a Soviet style 5-year plan intending to replace flu shots with futuristic jabs, of which mRNA was a candidate. And it was signed in September 2019. Plenty of time after Politico reported Pence’s fait accompli of a takeover for this to be his effort.
There are reports out there of evidence of the virus rampaging in Wuhan in October, some even go so far as to say August. September was the very month where China started hiding the evidence of bat coronaviruses.
I know this is after the fact hindsight, but it is scary how some dominoes were all laid in advance for COVID to be used to destroy Trump. And definitely worth an investigation.
Hindsight is important, because it can help us to know what to look for ahead of us.
I had it Nov/Dec 2019.
And I stupidly didn’t believe anyone who claimed that truth. Sorry. There were a lot of fellow sufferers saying that on this site.
So much of ‘the Science’ has been fraudulent and fake, fixed to give ‘the desired’ outcome.
Big Pharma new of the almost “smoking gun” link between childhood vaccines and autism more than 20 years ago, and all players involved agreed to hide it from the public.
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When people make this claim, I point out that children’s “brain damage” has been compensated under the 1986 National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, and ask them what the difference is between that and “autism”.
Word games, word games…
Thank you for the apology. No sarc. I had it in November of 2019. So very ill I honestly thought, “Shoot, this is it,” and then thought about all of the things I had never accomplished but had meant to.
In retrospect, I got lucky. Had I gotten it a mere few months later, I would have been put on a ventilator (yeah, it was that bad.) And then I wouldn’t be here:)
Of course, my local hospital lost out on 39 grand…
I had it in the same timeframe. My doctor was unable to see me for several days. I was much better the day of the appointment and I didn’t go. I’m so thankful for that.
Omgosh thank G-d you made it through!
I also had it Nov 2019, as did a business partner. We attended the same event.
My business partner even had pink eye,that she had a terrible time clearing up. 🤨
And almost everyone I’ve ever known in my long life has had a flu virus or bacterial bronchitis or sinus infection where they’ve said, “I thought I was going to die.”
Not only back aches but entire body aches.
In bed for weeks, sometimes.
Very high fevers.
Loss of smell? Who the hell can even breath at all when the entire head is a bag of discharge?
I even lost hearing in an ear permanently from a viral infection as a toddler. Yes, that happens.
Come on people. Finally break free of this hoax.
All infectious disease especially pneumonia is dangerous for those with weakened immune systems:
the aged and those with significant chronic diseases.
How many times in the long past have you heard that an elderly person was in the hospital for a surgery but developed pneumonia and died?
The game is this; hype as an existential threat a periodically occurring event that requires technical language. Present the only solution as government control of industry and personal behaviors.
Global warming/climate change anyone? There have been long eras of warmer and colder climate but how many of us actually look into that history? Isn’t carbon only a trace element of one percent of the atmosphere?
As I reassured my frightened mechanic the other day; don’t let these people scare the hell out of you.
I had covid with no congestion, but high fever the 2nd week, and INCREDIBLE fatigue, with some loss of smell (not due to nose being stuffed up). My wife had virtually no symptoms, except TOTAL loss of sense of smell, that took a couple months to get back, at least most of it. Covid-19, in its original form, was most certainly a real virus, with much evidence it was engineered, including a specific gene sequence associated with AIDS.
I don’t believe I actually discussed the issue of whether or not the virus has actually been isolated.
I obviously wasn’t clear enough in my writing. I was going further, being more cautious, in saying that all infectious disease can be dangerous for the aged and those with chronic, significant systemic diseases.
That is the dirty, little secret. If COVID disappeared tomorrow, tens of thousands will die from the flu in each subsequent year and tens of thousands more from bacterial pneumonia. It is still damn near impossible to get accurate stats on how many actually died from covid rather than just with a positive test.
The scam is that the elderly and immunocompromised dying or getting very sick from viral and bacterial disease is something newly scary.
Journal articles have come and gone, even from Johns Hopkins, that bastion of COVID fear, that have put the actual number at about 6% for those who were actually killed by COVID. What is 6% of 600,000? 30,000. I find that reassuring.
120,000 Italians died from the flu in one year several years ago. A similar flu year in the USA would yield 600,000 deaths.
Quit smoking, lose weight, exercise, eat as well as possible, get rest and sunlight. The formula is the same for all the nasty bugs in every era.
Like Sundance has been saying” live your best life.” I would like to add nobody lives for ever. Stop living Afraid.
“I thought I was going to die.”
I did think that. When you can’t breathe, that’s an issue:)
Same here…And no doctors had any idea what was wrong with me. I have a very strong Gid given natural IMMUNITY. Without that I WOULD BE DEAD.
I believe I had it then, too . I was never tested for it, but I felt like I could not breathe and coughed constantly.
me too, same time, mid Nov
btw Chyna did massive pcr test purchasing spring 2019
same here and it was running rampid in CA then….we called it the “crud” as we had no name for it then
My entire family (9 of us living on the same piece of land) had it in October 2021 (delta). We took Zinc, vitamin C & D, albuterol inhalers and Ivermectin (purchased from Canada). We all recovered. Have other family members with it right now. They are very sick and being treated by frontline doctors. They are afraid to see any other doctors or go to the hospital. My family felt the same way. None of us trust the mainstream medical community any more.
I read where some analysis of stored blood samples showed that covid was indeed present as early as November 2019 (and perhaps the analysis showed earlier, but November sticks out to me)
I read the opposite, Part of why I didn’t believe people were sick with covid pre-2020. But what I read was ‘disappeared’. I think it was hurting the narrative in other ways.
It sure doesn’t engender confidence when the ‘evidence’ gets pulled.
Pence claims to be pro life, but parties and shakes hands with baby killers. Don’t need to know more than that. He isn’t shaking hands as part of a job, he’s doing it in private social settings with no obligation.
What’s a bit confusing on this, and I read it yesterday and could not comment on substack because I don’t belong to any clubs, is the Chris Christie connections through Pence and the filthy RNC cartel.
Maybe concentrating/limiting discussions to the payroll *.gov parasites was enough for the unwashed messaging.
Here is Christie’s unflattering description of how Pence got to be VP.
Chris Christie book describes competition with Mike Pence for Trump VP (usatoday.com)
You have to take sore losers with a grain of salt, but it is very possibly an accurate description.
Here is an ally complaining about the ‘Stalinesque type purge’.
Trump Transition Shake-Up Part of ‘Stalinesque Purge’ of Christie Loyalists (nbcnews.com)
(This article implies that it was revenge for Christie having won convictions against Kushner’s father.)
The one thing I am sure about is that Pence is a vicious, traitorous infighter. He successfully abandoned Trump for Cruz yet somehow came back and overcame those who stayed with Trump while keeping outsiders like Gingrich at bay.
Christie is whatever he is, but, although he may be giving us some real insight here, I could never bring myself to trust him.
Wasn’t it Gingrich who ousted the senate bill writers in favor of lobbyists and corporations writing law?
The complaints about Gingrich doing so were all about it being the ‘wrong’ lobbyists. Use of ‘corporations’ in a smear is a tell as to the smear being leftist.
I don’t know if he was the first to favor lobbyists over staff in bill writing. Sincerely doubt that. Besides, doing so just gives the staff massive pay raises as they take jobs straight from the lobbyists. They were already taking instructions and seeking buy-in.
Also I remember one Sam Clovis (Rick Perry Camp).
These bought and paid for phony Patriots were thrown at Trump from the get go.
And it’s still happening to this day.
How could anyone in this country not be MAGA, or now, SAVE AMERICA?
Because it’s not their job to be so.
And how can Trump endorse Marco Rubio. He isn’t as bad as Romney, McConnell, Collins or Murkowski but give him another term and he will be.
Especially since Rubio is a Gang of Eight member.
And completely mediocre, in every way.
I detest Rubio. He’s very sleazy and lacking in class
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Because the powers-that-be in the South Florida RNC were/are so enamored of Rubio that there has been no viable alternative.
I wish I had found Emerald Robinson’s Twitter feed earlier. I had been trying hard to find out just how that covid task force came about, and then seeing Emerald’s work was my eureka! moment.
The pieces started falling into place.
I’m glad she’s “going there” with these stories.
No one else is.
Clarion — here’s the answer to your question of ‘how that Covid task force came about’:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/RSfP8sXtMbk/
45-minute video from Amazing Polly, entitled “We Are Being Plagued – Covid – Birx – HIV Grift”
In this video, Polly connects the dots between Pence, Birx, Fauci — and others — through PEPFAR.
I highly recommend scrolling through the vast array of videos, created by Amazing Polly — as many answers can be found there. Find a subject which interests you, and just watch.
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/ZofFQQoDoqYT/
She’s brilliant at ‘connecting dots’, although she once did follow “Q”.
“Q” declared, long before Covid, that there were characters planning a “mass extinction event” — if i recall correctly…. That turned out to be accurate
Whos cares about Judas Pence? Maybe the scared and weak?
Mike “Thirty Pieces Of” Pence… yeah, a bit awkward, but I like it.
Electricmaan,
I care enough about him to want to see him tried, convicted and hanged for treason.
I am reminded of an old poster here, lawrencepaul1. He called it, the very day pence was chosen for VP.
He took a lot of heat for it.
I am sure everyone remembers, pence originally endorsed cruz when PDJT and cruz were the only two left.
Where is LP these days?
No idea two-laine. Have not seen him post in a very long time.
I hope all is well with him.
Lawrence was a favorite. Miss his posts.
Agree. I also miss Rumpole, from New Zealand, another fun poster during our better days. Rumpole called it on Boris Johnson. Boris turned out to be exactly as he called it.
I remember him. Funny thing happened back then.. a swarm of ‘regular’ posters minded the store quite intensely. They strongly disliked dissenting views and had no qualms about silencing them.
I never understood this tactic, because I quite enjoy a healthy debate. I like to hear what everybody else is thinking, sans insults. Why take opinions so personally?
These posters were quite chummy and readers were very familiar with them and their ongoing banter. But then, quite suddenly, they all disappeared shortly after President Trump was elected.. Whoosh! And these people, supposedly, were his most ardent supporters!
It is interesting to see these ‘chat’ swarms come and go, en masse. I no longer take any posters for granted. Best to judge posts on their own merits and skip the Fakebook friend stuff.
Agree judith. The swarms seem to have subsided, mostly just some individual nasty ones on occasion.
There was a purge of posters, mainly Q people, but the smart ones work around it. You know, like how you’re not allowed to diss the vax on quodverum. 😄 Amazing the back and forth that occurs here now, such an improvement. I was literally purged for calling a.comment “cringeworthy” – about someone casually referring to a Saudi royal as “easy on the eye”. I’ll leave it at that.
The young prince and Heir Apparent is quite handsome, I think.
Great information! Since the 2020 election, I continue to get mail from Dence asking for money. Send back every piece with a note to pound sand. Mike Pence and his wife are the most fraudulent Christians on the face of the earth right now. You know anybody who wears their Christianity on their shirt sleeve like Mike and Missy are fake. Likely he is another compromised RINO accepting money from the CCP ……………… we will find out.
Same here. Only I mail it back with a TRUMP sticker. Same thing with Pence’s brother, Greg, who everyone needs to remember is a Congressman from Indiana.
P.S. Don’t waste your own money on a stamp to mail anything back. Only use those pre-paid ‘Business Reply’ envelopes they send to you when they are looking for donations. Their campaign then has to pay the postage. Make them pay in any way you can no matter how small it may seem.
I thought I saw an article about his brother pre traitor move lining out how “Good ol’ Mike” wasn’;t who he said he was
I would like to know who it was that brought Fauci and Burke on board and told President Trump that he had to shut the country down.
I have NEVER trusted Pence.
Pence
Great article by Emerald. I watched an interview of Pence recently and he arrogantly said he followed the constitution. He is a traitor.
It’s quite clear Judas Pence did not follow God’s Laws.
THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.
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“Followed the Constitution…”
Because, as we all know, that short document has stuff in it that is merely ceremonial?
My son told me Emerald Robinson will be hosting a new show on Mike Lindel’s Frank Speech.com
Regardless of anything else said about Pence, I’ll always look at him and remember that every time he preceded Mr Trump in a rally, he expressed loudly that he was a thing he clearly is not…a practicing and believing follower of Christ.
I find that to be the most despicable. The rest of what we now know about him just makes sense. He used a false professing of his false Christianity for his self serving purposes.
It doesn’t get any more abhorrent than that. And it still shocks me.
Betsy,
I am only marginally good at reading people’s body language. However, I recall several times where I saw Judas Pence and his wife in official ceremonies with President and Mrs. Trump. Those instance stood out to me because I could clearly see that both of the Pences were uncomfortable around the Trumps.
Mrs. Pence in particular always looked like she was standing someplace where something that smelled really bad was very close to her. Her husband always listened to President Trump with either a completely neutral expression or a pained look on his face. He NEVER, in my experience, looked at President Trump with the supportive, comradely facial expressions I would expect a loyal VP to have. Of course, after Jan. 6, it is clear that Pence was always a backstabbing traitor who never had the first bit of loyalty toward President Trump.
I am praying that President Trump gets reelected in 2024, and that he comes to DC with a large, powerful broom to sweep the entire damned place clean. If they resist, I hope he moves on from the broom to fire and sword. The criminals have got to be stopped.
Pence reminded me of a groveling toady, waiting for a chance to stab his master in the back. He was Gollum to Trump’s Frodo.
Peter Navarro is his champion in waiting …keep your eye on this man!
Good observant skills you have there, mac.
I was watching him as well, but not her. To me she was a ghostly figure, appearing occasionally but then disappearing into the woodwork. There were very few times she appeared with Mrs Trump, a big tell I did think then. A few things she had apparently said about the Trumps slipped out that were unkind, but I put those reports down to normal catty gossip. Now? In retrospect, I believe she said those things.
As for Pence, his demeanor was so stiff when speaking and his words all the same, as if he had rehearsed what he was saying. The words were there, but I always felt there was no conviction in them…nor belief or passion. You are right on his facial expressions. His speeches were simply boilerplate. I noticed that as well.
I remain extremely concerned that there will be no further honest elections. Too much is being done today (see what Republican states are doing with redistricting…hint…giving seats away to the Dems), failure to clean up voter rolls, illegal immigrants who will no doubt illegally vote, etc etc. Mr Trump remains a threat to all the GOPe, in cahoots with the Dems. If by the grace of God he should run and win, he’s going to have to be brutally deliberate this time in fumigating the entire government. I truly regret to say that at this point my hopes for this are not high.
I picked that up also when Pence’s daughter went on a nasty TV show where there is a hostile woman named Joy Behar. Daughter was sending out fairly clear signals that she was on the same side as Behar (who clearly despised Pencekin)
If you feel the need to tell me you are a good Christian that’s a pretty good indication you are not.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Your deeds speak so loudly I can’t hear what your mouth is saying.
Yes, Mycroft. I couldn’t put it better than that. It really is difficult for me to keep mentally seeing him and hearing ” …and if you’re inclined to bend a knee…”, knowing now he was in effect using Christ as a front. All the while bobbing his head incessantly, a particularly annoying tic.
And yes, his deeds are doing the speaking.
just like the Pharisees who tried to trip up Christ so many times….they often professed their faith while the Lord told them they failed in the most important regard….they lacked faith in the Savior
Yes indeed. Pence is an Elmer Gantry. Perhaps one day he’ll come to see it.
Yep, but without the Gantry charisma…
Thank you for this information. This is the type of article that needs to be shared far and wide.
Has anyone else seen this?
https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/02/01/morgan-ortagus-founded-consulting-firm-with-biden-official/
Mike “thirty” Pence did as his masters NWO/CFR/WEF instructed him. His job like HW with Reagan was as a spy and sabotage for the swamp.
We know, he knows, they know and the world knows the election was stolen and Pence was the pivot man.
Look how Pence sabatoged Michael Flynn.
Just where did Trump find him and why, really why, was he chosen as his running mate?
Same mistakes over and over again, personnel selections. But that is the incestuous nature of DC and politics. The article is exhibit A. They are ALL related. The only way to clean it up is to burn it down and rebuild from the dirt and ash on up.
The RNC found him, just like they installed Bush 1 as VP for Reagan.
Don’t know how true, but I read Ivanka/Kushner vetted every VP candidate and liked Pence.
Trump liked Pence too. A fake Christian to virtue signal, a phony persona, evil can look quite charming.
Looking back, look how many devout people got on board to follow Pence, because Pence Christian-signalled
The great teachers told us: pay attention to what people DO more than what they SAY
The RNC is obviously aligned with the UNiparty construct of “controlled” opposition. Their candidates are Republicans-in-name-only as they all must toe the UNiparty line.
The odd candidate who fails to meet their stringent vetting process (there aren’t too many) is always saddled with a swamp rat “minder.” Same thing happened to Reagan with See-Eye-Aye Bush.
The RNC strikes again!
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/02/trumps-disturbing-claim-that-pence-could-overturn-the-election.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email
As President, Trump for 4 years showed nothing but respect to Mike Pence. Mike Pence betrayed him because his loyalties were always to the GOP political machine because that is where he thinks his bread is buttered.
Fact is, Pence is a follower, not a leader and if he ever gets back in office, he will do what he is told. He will execute what he is instructed. He has not an original thought in his head, he has no brilliance, no vision, no originality, no empathy for the American people. He will be a tool of the puppet masters just like Biden. We cannot afford to have any more years of Pence in public office.
Retire him to the pasture in his $1.9m house he just bought.
And Heritage gave him a place to land. Screw them.
FTP:
“ It’s time for Republican voters to admit that they had no idea who Mike Pence was.”
LOL
A bit late, dontcha think? I asked that very question the day Trump announced Pence as his running mate. I asked THEN “WHO the eff is Mike Pence.”
At the time, we were reassured that Pence was picked to secure the Evangelical vote, which made sense.
Later, we surmised that Flynn dove on his own sword to protect Pence and (ultimately) Trump, which never quite made sense. NOW we know better.
And, finally, now we know HOW Fauci managed to remain in place throughout the end of Trump’s administration, even though there was clear friction.
I guess one big takeaway for any future POTUS hopeful: BEWARE OF WHO YOU PICK FOR A RUNNING MATE. All staff members can be fired, but not the VPOTUS!
oh you CAN fire a VP but it does take their cooperation….you make it known publicly your loss in confidence in them and inform the public they are being sidelined as ineffective and untrustworthy….EVEN PDJT would have gotten MSM coverage enough to make his displeasure with his VP very clear….VP has no official assigned task beyond being President of the US Senate
Also recall the visual of Mike Pence as the useless display mannequin while Stoli Pelosi is ripping page by page of PDJTs State of the Union Speech. If Pence had a pair he would taken all the pages of the speech away from that 80 year old child and shamed her during the act. Another example of his cowardice and complicity. And Pence thinks of himself as a devoted, holy man.
There are still many on the Christian right that are taken in by Pense’s show of piety. Better for President Trump to let others take Pense down. If Trump says anything it would sound, to them, like sour grapes.
That is a jaw-dropping article.
“we know that Peter Strozk’s assistant was Katherine Seaman — the wife of Mike Pence’s chief of staff Josh Pitcock.”
That one piece of information is just….. flabbergasting. Dumbfounding. That provides a ready explanation for so many things.
I’ve got to say that the information on Olivia Troye raises a much more uncomfortable possibility that the leak/release of SARS-CoV-2 was deliberate.
Excellent, excellent article.
BTW, for those of you who don’t remember, when President Trump was trying to get his tramsition team up and going, the Democrats were in a full bore assault on RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA. Distraction so Democratic and GOPe Operatives could be stealthily placed into the administration.
What is more uncomfortable of a thought, that the Fauci Bioweapon was released, or that it was developed right here in the US of A using our tax dollars, then offshored to the ChiComs??
University of North Carolina.
Pense, Benedict Arnold, Brutus…..all the same.
H&HC,
Don’t stick Benedict Arnold in the same group with Pence. Arnold actually did something useful for the country and was a legitimate hero. Pence has never done a damned thing for either Indiana or the U.S. All he was ever interested in was feathering his own nest and he didn’t give a damn who he had to sell out to do it.
Kenneth Roberts agrees.
Arnold was actually wronged by Washington and the US Congress for a long period before he went turncoat….his glory at the Battle of Saratoga was stolen from him and the Congress was reneging on a promise to repay Arnold’s fortune he had loaned to finance Washington’s army…as a “reward” they placed him in charge of logistics for Philly (US Capitol at the time)
point well taken………
Pence’s predecessor in IN, Mitchell Daniels, was a good administrator, good for the states budget, not flashy, didn’t even like the limelight. Did a great job.
Might be good in a Trump admin. Also Kyle Bass. Make him Ambassador to China! He will eat their lunch.
Mike is more like Shakespear’s Cassius!
ha – good one!
Pence, who never has done anything in his life but be a politician….no thanks Mike.
I loathe the GOP worse than the Communists.
Was Bush sr any less treacherous?
I’d suggest he was even moreso but we weren’t paying as close attention as we are today… well I know I wasn’t… I was in my teens when Reagan was being betrayed by the deep state.
I think at some point, Sundance should write a book and produce a documentary (perhaps enlist the help of Mr. Gorman!) on “The voter’s guide to picking a candidate.”
If Sundance was able to distill things like how to research a candidate, how to read and understand the current events and things along those lines, we would have far fewer idiot voters in circulation and, indeed, more citizen activists who are interested in preserving our republic. If as few as 1 in 20 people knew even a little of what Sundance understands, that would be at least 1 in 40 teachers.
This is how we can best recover our country and keep it that way.
Voters MUST learn how to approach their vote for a candidate!
Most people look at a candidate as a means to an end, for some benefit that they want, but can’t get on their own.
They don’t look at it as HIRING AN EMPLOYEE, but as a hero to give the voters “stuff”.
The path to disaaster.
I will NEVER voter for Pence.
Retired Magistrate here: Most people that post on this site would have been a better Vice President than Mike Pence. No wonder so many people get turned off on “Christians”.
President Trump reminds me of Peter, the fisher of men; rough around the edges but he gets the job done. Pence reminds me of Judas Iscarat; a smooth talker but has no problem stabbing you in the back.
Unfortunately, there are still are lot of Christians, who are true believers, who think that Pence is just wonderful and will vote for him for President if he runs. Why, because he speaks softly, doesn’t talk mean to anyone and just appears to be a nice guy. Wrong, unless you want a member of the establishment and the Deep State.
I thought Mike Pence was a good choice for VP as his personality was the opposite of then candidate Donald Trump. President Trump was an open book, we always knew where he stood. Mike Pence was robotic and his main asset was he wore his Christianity on his sleeve.
it is a terrible feeling to know Mike Pence betrayed so many people, including me.
There are lot of people on this site that could serve PDJT better than anyone he himself could pick. Or know someone who could serve. I’m probably wishing the impossible but PDJT would be aptly served by having SD head his transition team.
Pence was told by the GOPe if he helped bring down Trump there would be something in it for him (POTUS). Just like Fredo Corleone.
Fredo was smarter.
Lesson learned? Put your VP in an office and tell him/her never to leave. Or do a better job vetting. PDJT can never again pick his people without thorough vetting. Plenty of folks outside of government would be willing to help to do. For free.
They’re are many good analysts and researchers in this corner of the internet, most notably, Sundance. Did Trump have any awareness of their existence?
I always held on to the hope that PDJT or his people read here. But it looks like they don’t. They could use the expertise of Sundance and the many intelligent knowledgeable commenters here. IMHO, there is more of that in this corner of the internet than anywhere else.
Pence was always a traitor to Trump
https://pence-ryan2016.squarespace.com/
Mike Pence is reportedly ‘still angry’ that Trump endangered him and his family on Jan. 6
Oct 21, 2021
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mike-pence-is-reportedly-still-angry-that-trump-endangered-him-and-his-family-on-jan-6/ar-AAPNPAN
Also, best buds, including their families:
He’s angry? RU kidding me? The scheming lying fraud is angry? Go hide in cave Mike, no one cares how you feel.
Then he should be really angry about Nanzi’s security or, more accurately, lack of security.
Caption the picture. “Hey, here’s the guy that recused without a fight”.
Oh puh-lease 🤦🏼♀️. Those people were there to support PDJT, and by association, Pence, and he knew it. His credibility is
G O N E…
And BTW who recommended Keebler?
Folks,
While I’m NO fan of Mike Pence, the fact of the matter is that he couldn’t have done anything. Why? There were no constitutional, alternate slates of electors. The state GOP branches sent the electors, while the COTUS calls for the state legislatures to do it. Pence’s hands were tied! If the GOP controlled legislatures in the swing states had sent the electors, then Pence would’ve been able to do something on January 6, 2021.
With that in mind, Trump and his legal team pursued a faulty strategy. They tried going through the corrupt courts! What they should have done is gone to the GOP controlled state legislatures in the contested states; make their case in front of said state legislatures; then, hopefully, the state legislatures would send constitutional slates of electors. See Art. II, Sec. 1 for the state legislatures’ powers WRT elections and electors.
LOL….you want to tell that to JEFFERSON, one of the authors of the US Constitution….when given the SAME choice not only did he certify ALTERNATE electors but doing so made HIM POTUS….I would take Jefferson’s knowledge and insight into constitutional matters over Pence’s every day of the week and TWICE on Sunday
Not true…Pence had a letter from the PA legislature, as well as 2 other requests from AZ & WI, asking for 10 days to convene and vote for electors!
Remember, the govs in many of these states REFUSED to allow the legislatures to convene, and then fraudulently “certified” electors, so those submitted to Congress were not constitutionally certified, and therefore not eligible to be counted.
All Pence had to do was to grant the 10-day request of those states, for the TRUE CERTIFYING AUTHORITIES to convene and certify electors, and that would still have honored the Jan 20th final date.
PENCE WAS THOROUGHLY BRIEFED ON THIS by Professor John Eastman, he KNEW HIS DUTY TO THE COUNTRY, and yet he betrayed us ALL!
May he rot in hell for what he did. God curse his soul.
I agree Karen Pence didn;t hide her dislike of The Trumps
even Melania..But really there isn;t any woman who likely
could have been comfortable near Melania who always looked
so beautiful while Mrs. Pence and others were very dowdy in
comparison..
I kinda liken it to the wives of Charles, William and Harry
they will forever be compared to Princess Diana and well
they can never be her.
I don;t know whose wife could have lived in Melania shadow
But Karen Pence didn;t hide it like some others did or would have.
She, after all, is a “Karen”.
Melania is superb.
There is no shame in not quite measuring up to the quiet presence of Melania.
I am just grateful that Melania was willing to out up with all the aggravation involved in her role
“. . . Melania who always looked so beautiful while Mrs. Pence and others were very dowdy in comparison.”
That’s how I was fooled about Karen Pence. I thought her coldness toward FLOTUS Melania was insecurity, having to stand next to so much beauty, poise, fashion sense, intelligence and international savvy while the entire world watched and made comparisons.
If I’d been Karen, I’d have gotten the fashion and beauty 411 from Melania Day 1!
There are plenty of women who could have lived in Melania’s shadow. We aren’t all jealous, insecure twits.
So I wonder now what all that praise from Chris Miller toward Pence was about? What complex military effort might that be?
Covid or J6?
I suppose that could be. My thoughts went directly to our 4th branch of government. J6 seems like fairly predictable “grassroots deep state”. Covid has global participation. I think you make a good point that it’s all connected. I wonder how deep it all goes and how connected it all is and if we can ever fix it.
Ol’ 30-Pieces-Of-Silver Mike, he of the Pelosi elbow bump, he who received a magic coin to carry in his pocket. Strange how the YT videos of both those events are nowhere to be found now.
Emerald Robinson’s post was Outstanding . I had not realized how Deep State Establishment Mike Pence was. Like Mitt Romney, he is decent human being but politically his world view is not what I want. Pres. Trump failed to drain the Swamp in part because of Mike Pence and others who undercut his agenda.
Emerald Robinson posts at Substack which is a goldmine of information and analysis.
He is not a decent human being. He worked to undermine the President that he worked for. What is decent about that. He falsely portrayed himself as some pious Christian and he is not. He has the dead eyes of a fraudulent liar. How can you say he is a decent human being?
Correct. And just like Pence, Romney is no decent human being either. He’s a sociopath who has no qualms about harming others to benefit himself. None of these RINOs are decent human beings. How many innocent people are dead because of GWB and his ilk? How many lives did he ruin? Our side has to toughen up and quit fawning over those who want to destroy us. They are evil sociopaths, not decent human beings.
The important takeaway from the article is Trump’s wording of the “right to change the election” versus Ms. Robinson’s wording of “ability to formally contest the results”.
Two entirely different actions.
Exactly right.
There was always something vague about VP Mike Pence. If its Pence or
him being in the VP position is a good question. Pence was called back
to the White House one day. To this day it was never revealed why :
MIKE PENCE Published July 2, 2019 Last Update July 3, 2019
Pence’s office tight-lipped after VP abruptly cancels New Hampshire trip to return to White House
By Alex Pappas | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pences-plane-called-back-to-dc-for-unspecified-emergency
One thing that should be mentioned when VP Mike Pence was called back
in a hurry to the White House is that on Monday Jul 1, 2019 a Secret
Service Agent, part of the Presidents detail, including the last G20
died after her kayak overturned on the Maryland river :
Secret Service Agent Among 3 People Killed On Maryland Waterways
U.S. Secret Service Agent Stephanie Hancock Killed In Kayaking Accident
By Mike Hellgren July 1, 2019 at 4:00 pm
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/07/01/u-s-secret-service-agent-killed-in-kayaking-accident/
Secret Service agent dies after her kayak overturns on Maryland river
BY ALEX SUNDBY
JULY 1, 2019 / 1:04 PM / CBS NEWS
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stephanie-hancock-secret-service-special-agent-dies-kayaking-accident-maryland-river/
One day before the kayak incident, on Jun 30, 2019, the 2019
Koreas–United States DMZ Summit was held. Trump had been away for more
than over a week from the White House …
The treachery is combined with incompetence. Robinson’s personally gratifying contention about Trump’s big mistake in giving the COVID Task Force to Pence outlined even more incompetence than I thought existed, with Pence handing off the controls to others. In those pressers, I always though Pence looked like a deer in the headlights and now we know why. He had little clue about what was going on with the task fore much less COVID itself. Was it purposeful incompetence? Who knows?
Another thing that struck me, one that we’ve seen repeatedly in these last wo years, is how much of DC’s goings-on are implemented not by the top level office holders but by faceless and nameless people in positions just below those ostensibly in charge. These people are shuffled in an out of positions they may not even be qualified for – and may in fact never perform the duties of – for purely political purposes. Can this enormous bureaucratic state be demolished? Given the intestinal weakness of the opposition, I’m not convinced it can be.
A few more researched articles on Pence.
PART 1 https://newswithviews.com/judas-mike-pence-joins-aaron-burr-and-benedict-arnold-part-one/
PART 2: https://newswithviews.com/mike-pence-water-boy-for-the-deep-state-part-two/
Part 3: https://newswithviews.com/satans-minions-the-financiers-of-michael-r-pence-part-3/
That third link is very revealing. There is a web of deceit in DC and just about everybody is in it. If they don’t have family connections, they have personal or business connections. (You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours) IMHO, the only way to fix it is to destroy it completely.
Why is it that good Republican Presidents (Reagan and Trump), get stuck with such lousy Vice Presidents?
I would presume the puppetmasters want(ed) an insurance policy. The clever part in Pence’s case was how they sold him as *our* insurance policy against the left going after Trump, like with impeachment.
The bill of goods we were sold had Pence as Trump’s backstop, an inhibition to actual impeachment.
Well, that was then and this is now. When people show one who they are, believe them.
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Because Job #1 is getting elected in the first place. “Complicated business…”
IDEA 💡
I was nauseated reading this, and we know 90% of Trump’s staff backstabbed him. Delegating wasn’t his forte.
Trump should start calling on ALL OF US to staff his administration!!!
We could do way better than the political class swamp hacks who are supposedly experts.
He should literally Job-Post every job in DC he can control and appoint and have patriots apply. Have a loyalty test and job competence test.
IE I have a business degree from a well regarded major college, and run 2 small businesses, doing well. But I’d drop it all to take a salaried post with Trump. I am SURE I can do a better job than the hacks!! So could 98% of all you guys! I’d move to DC or we could work from home, right???
I’m DEAD SERIOUS here. Trump has
NOT CALLED ON US ENOUGH TO TAKE ACTUAL ACTION. He trusts the wrong people.
PUT ME IN COACH!!!!
Put your Helmet on Shawn !
Remember the guy from big oil, Tillerson?
The other side of the coin is multinational fascism, brought to the fore by the Covid operation. We get to see it up close and personal now.
As Sundance has posted in the past, trust, once gone, is excruciatingly hard to regain, and likely never results in the level of that first trust.
Next, the realities of power and outsiders. The insiders protect their matrix of power through the complexities of laws they’ve created to serve themselves, the media, and if need be, assassins. Tough row to hoe and survive.
Notice how a relatively young Congressman resigned his post of 20 years in mid-term to become CEO of TruthSocial? He’d been a vocal critic of the cabal and weathered many a personal attack. What changed his mind? Why now and so suddenly, even with the gerrymandering supposedly coming to his district?
Where are the CTH threads on TruthSocial? It’s supposed to be the PDJT MAGA network.. Heck I have to search for it to find out anything about it.
I’d say start local. That’s what I did decades ago. Learned a lot about power matrix and the cunning of humans from it. Live local, fight local, win local, presuming one has the stomach for it. 🙂
If he would just AT LEAST read here, that would be a start. I hope someone in his administration sees your message. It would be quite a sacrifice to move to that den of thieves.
I admire your enthusiasm and willingness to serve but unfortunately the process does not work that way. Any one of us who he chose to take official positions within the White House / Executive Branch would have to be vetted and approved by the Senate.
And there is NO one – Republican or Democrat – in the Senate who wants ANY pro-MAGA Deplorable to have any government authority or power to affect / influence government operations or policy. They HATE us with an evil passion, even though many RINOs are good at concealing it.
Can’t anybody see it? Vice President Pence was an integral part of the greatest sting operation of all time.
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Mike had a local Indianapolis show during the 90’s. Some episodes can still be viewed on YouTube. He was anything but wooden back then, he was animatedly establishing himself as a religious politician back then in solid red Indiana. He is a political tool. When Mike went to DC he helped Holcomb get established behind him as the new Indiana governor. Holcomb is a RINO slowly pushing Indiana purple behind the scenes. And Mike’s brother, Greg, is already well-established in the political pipeline. Infiltration.
Pence’s sister lives in Minnesota, where there are nothing but RINOs, and dirty, filthy RINOS at best.
I’ve thought Pence might be a RINO/Uni-Party member.
I know I won’t be voting for him IF he is the 2024 nominee.
Donald John Trump has the HIGHEST APPROVAL OF ANY Republican. There is no IF President Trump will be the Republican nominee.
That does NOT that mean people like Pence or Cruz won’t try to steal the Nomination… but when they DO try… this will be the response…
Aside from Delecto – is there a greasier, smarmier, more dislikable excuse for a man under the R umbrella than this guy?
as slippery and slimy as an eel.
Paul–the Wisconsin Weasel–is right up there with them.
There was a website that was created in 2016 with Pence running for president and paul ryan as VP…https://pence-ryan2016.squarespace.com/
Yuck
Total globalist hack
Pierre is a carpetbagger. How is he from Minnesota, Massachusetts, AND utah?
McConnell, Graham, Ryan …
Pence is just a tool for the party leadership.
Mitch McConnell
I was there, up on the second level looking down at the madness named Lyin’ Ted.
Thought I was going to blow my lungs out screaming so hard at that little puke face, and I’m pretty sure I can hear my husband’s deep voice yelling “TRUMP” in the background.
What the Cruzbots rarely speak about is how they all wore their matching yellow t-shirts and made a holier-than-thou public spectacle of walking out of the auditorium together “for Ted” and then walking in together “for Ted” just before he gave his ‘I’m better than everyone else’ speech posted above. The people who were for Lyin’ Ted had no more discernment for the truth than the people who are willingly taking the poison injection now.
I was so ashamed of Ken Cuccinelli that day. He had a full on tantrum in front of tens of thousands of people. He eventually got a clue and has been rock solid for Trump and election integrity now but it really shows how little discernment these people can have.
look for Judas Pence to appear on Tic Toc Hannity tonite to try to rehab his RINO bonifides with an assist from limp wristed Miss Lindsey. If only the bloated one will let them talk.
Well-put, on several points. Baby Jesus does have a hard time letting his guests breathe, let alone say anything. (The great Neal Boortz put that nickname on Hannity when Sean launched his Fox TV career).
You don’t have to worry, Pence has zero chance at being the 2024 Republican nominee. He’ll likely end up at the Heritage Foundation or some other way station for washed-up conservatives once his sham presidential campaign runs out of steam.