The Supreme Court ruling is AVAILABLE HERE. The court ruled 6-3 to strike down the big issue of the OSHA vaccine mandate for businesses with more than 100 employees. However, the court did allow (5-4) the federal vaccine mandate for federally funded healthcare agencies. Justices Roberts and Kavanaugh joined the communists to allow the healthcare worker mandate to continue.
“OSHA has never before imposed such a mandate. Nor has Congress. Indeed, although Congress has enacted significant legislation addressing the COVID–19 pandemic, it has declined to enact any measure similar to what OSHA has promulgated here,” the majority justices wrote in an unsigned opinion.
(Via Associated Press) – The Supreme Court has stopped the Biden administration from enforcing a requirement that employees at large businesses be vaccinated against COVID-19 or undergo weekly testing and wear a mask on the job. At the same time, the court is allowing the administration to proceed with a vaccine mandate for most health care workers in the U.S.
[…] The court’s conservative majority concluded the administration overstepped its authority by seeking to impose the Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s vaccine-or-test rule on U.S. businesses with at least 100 employees. More than 80 million people would have been affected.
[…] In dissent, the court’s three liberals argued that it was the court that was overreaching by substituting its judgment for that of health experts. “Acting outside of its competence and without legal basis, the Court displaces the judgments of the Government officials given the responsibility to respond to workplace health emergencies,” Justices Stephen Breyer, Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor wrote in a joint dissent.
When crafting the OSHA rule, White House officials always anticipated legal challenges — and privately some harbored doubts that it could withstand them. The administration nonetheless still views the rule as a success at already driving millions of people to get vaccinated and for private businesses to implement their own requirements that are unaffected by the legal challenge.
[…] The vaccine mandate that the court will allow to be enforced nationwide covers virtually all health care workers in the country. It applies to health care providers that receive federal Medicare or Medicaid funding, potentially affecting 76,000 health care facilities as well as home health care providers. The rule has medical and religious exemptions.
[…] In the healthcare case, only justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito noted their dissents. “The challenges posed by a global pandemic do not allow a federal agency to exercise power that Congress has not conferred upon it. At the same time, such unprecedented circumstances provide no grounds for limiting the exercise of authorities the agency has long been recognized to have,” the justices wrote in an unsigned opinion, saying the “latter principle governs” in the healthcare cases (read more).
If Demoncrats prevail this year and in 2024 they will stack the court and then we are all well and truly farked—
That is properly spelled “FUSRKED.”. This is not to be confused with “FUBARed”.
So no illegals?
UMMMMM, that would be illegal and unlawful since it is taken out of our payroll checks for life. I PAID into this system.
Well, according to all the reliable news sources I’ve read, Kyrsten Sinema ain’t budging on the filibuster.
If she stands strong (and if no RINOs defect) then the election fraud legislation is DOA.
Maybe sending the crazy gang to stalk her and harrass her wasn;t
such a good idea. Instead of intimadating some people that just
make them mad..
RINOS. WILL. DEFECT.
Do the clowns on the court voting for medical worker mandates know that California hospitals removed all their unvaccinated employees … now they have a massive shortage of employees … so … the vaccinated are now instructed to keep working EVEN if they have COVID.
LIBERALS. ARE. INSANE.
Why would a supposedly Constitutionalist Supreme Court Justice vote to mandate a vaccine that isn’t a vaccine and doesn’t work!
The most important part of this ruling is that now people can vote with their feet. For example if the company decides to mandate vaccines on their own, and considering the job market is so darn hot right now, they can simply leave for better pastures. With no rule to back up companies doing mandating, there are less likely to do it and risk shedding a significant number of employees.
And, open themselves to discrimination lawsuits. Especially these companies that are coming out now saying they will modify their sick leave program to favor the vaccinated.
They will just double down on stupid.
I am amused that we went from 14 days of quarantine all the way down to 5.
Yep. I’m hoping workers will start putting more pressure on forcing employers to stop mandating the masks–especially when even the CDC is now admitting that they don’t work.
I’m in retail. Our company says that if you test positive for Covid, and are vaccinated, you will get 5 days paid. If you are un-vaccinated, you have to use your own paid time off. My solution? Don’t get tested. Take your Dayquil and go to work.
Exactly. It’s what people without sick leave have always done. It’s a stupid policy because people will of course go to work sick.
So sorry…flagged this accidentally while scrolling!
That’s exactly what will happen. Many years ago, the County I worked for decided to “reward” employees who didn’t use any sick leave in a year with a commendation from the Board of Supervisors. (Big whoop 🙄). All it did was encourage people who were sick and to whom those awards were important to come to work, sick, and spread it to everyone else. Really smart. I wonder if any of the decision-makers feel stupid now.
Sounds like a discrimination lawsuit waiting to happen.
Do they realize how stupid they sound?
What your employer doesn’t know can’t hurt YOU!
My doctor says to take Theraflu.
The employer would his shield against lawsuits by employees!
One small step for Liberty, one giant leap for Tyranny.
I side with Justices Alito and Thomas. Point to me where in the Constitution it says a federal agency is exempt from the Constitution because of some manufactured emergency?
So, the squad of three on the court would give up their own authority to those in the bureaucracy with the responsibility given to them to understand health issues and issue decrees nationwide affecting everyone? No surprise there. They see their role as enabling such behavior. It is unfortunate that only two on the court understand the law and their own place in it. A bare majority wishes to grant the government more rope for themselves to weasel out of any real decision and let things continue to move along essentially bowing to the will of the mob. This is far from over. I suppose we have already seen most of the decimation of the ranks of health care workers due to the mandate anyway although this will finish what Obamacare started. Even without employer mandates they can find many ways to encourage employers and force others to make life difficult and very litigious. The scare headlines themselves are enough for many employers with like-minded scared leaders. Not much to celebrate here imo. Gives the supply chain a slight breather before new ways are found to strangle it.
So my wife is a physician who works in a clinic, and we are strongly opposed to the vaccine. It looks like she is safe, but the employees of the clinic’s surgery center for instance are not. Apparently surgery centers and hospitals that receive federal money (which I guess is most to all) must comply, but it is my understanding that private practice or physicians that work only in clinic (no hospital or surgery center privileges) would be exempt. Please share if you have been told anything different.
I work in healthcare as a clinician. My understanding is that all facilities that receive medicare/medicaid reimbursement are subject to the mandate.
I hope I’m wrong. If I am, please correct me.
I hope that you can get an exemption from your clinic.
The healthcare ruling mandate has allowances for:
“medical and religious exemptions.”
My husband works at a hospital. He is a Facilities Director. His hospital said that employees were allowed two exemptions. Medical and Religious. He applied for both and he was granted both exemptions. This ruling is discriminatory. I hope there will be lawsuits.
Yeah they are also keeping tack of such religious people.
They are keeping track of everyone who does *not* produce a vax card. If those who got injected had refused to produce VIP cards and invoked HIPAA privacy laws instead, NONE of this would happen to any of us!
They could just get their shots and forget about it. That, not lip service, would demonstrate solidarity with their fully human neighbors.
The “vaccinated” have willingly created two classes of people by going along with these passes. We are already known to these nosy authorities because of that.
They screw around with the medical exemptions, narrowing it down to allergies to vax ingredients only. If you’re allergic to one ingredient they can always find another poison death shot.
My daughter’s longtime doctor wrote a note and some nurse Karen at the school -who we never met- rejected it.
The religious exemption is all encompassing, because refusing medical procedures (like blood transfusions) has already been upheld by the Supreme Court for other cases, in the name of Religious freedom.
As long as it is your “sincerely held religious belief” that your body is the temple of the living God, and changing your God-given immune system with mRNA technology will result in your spiritual death, you should receive an accommodation.
That’s how I read it…so facilities need to drop Medicare and Medicaid. These programs cost places money so, they should have no problem dropping them.
Let the recipients of those programs deal with the BS. I wish I could halt my money being stolen for these programs.
40-50% of the income at my facility is medicare. No way it gets dropped.
I don’t get it….It’s like, and this is hypothetical, if my boss accepted money from a drug dealer does that make me, the cashier say, a drug dealer too?
Working for a company that accepts funding from the government shouldn’t automatically make you a federal employee .. or do you get a check each pay period from the feds?
I think that’s not a proper comparison.
It would be more like your drug dealer paying money to your boss, then after a certain number years of giving a handout, suddenly telling the boss he has to obey a certain rule imposed by the drug dealer if he wants to continue to receive this drug money.
Neither the boss nor his employees are drug dealers, but the boss is now being bribed to keep a payout he’s become addicted to, so he complies.
Whoever controls the purse strings controls the rules.
A lot of practices have already dropped out of these programs due to the red tape and poor reimbursement. They should have no problem hiring all those workers leaving the woke hospitals.
Are you out of your ever lovin mind? If one is 65 generally the only insurance one can get is Medicare and one pays through the nose for it, the supplemental policy from Blue Cross Blue Shield, United Heathcare, etc. along with another plan to assist with lower prescription costs (which really mostly apply to generic drugs) and if you are still working one still pays the 3.9% of whatever it is on your taxes. If one makes too much money according to their chart, one pays a graduated increase over the normal medicare monthy rate. I laugh at this because now I pay more than ever for insurance and prescription drugs. However, I must admit I am now using insurance where previously I never did. Making up for lost time!
As far as Medicaid goes it is supposed to go for the very poor and disabled. There is more than likely millions in fraud with these programs. If you want to reduce costs, go after that.
Your money is not being stolen for these programs.
I believe the medicare mandate only applies to CMS (Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services) certified facilities. So I think it depends on wether or not the building you work in is a CMS certified facility or not. I don’t think simply accepting medicare dollars is enough (the MSM does not clarify this point at all). My wife’s patients are all senior citizens and she is billing medicare for all of them, but she is not at a CMS certified facility. So right now we think she is exempt, and that is the last thing she told by her employer. If I learn more I will post here again.
This is from CMS’s own FAQ on the vaccine mandate:
New as of 11/18/21 – Q: Do the new COVID-19 staff vaccination requirements apply to my therapy practice? A: These requirements apply only to CMS-certified therapy providers, that is, an organization that operates in compliance with the Conditions of Participation as a Medicare-certified facility, not an individual therapist or group practice. Certified provider types include clinics, rehabilitation agencies, and public health agencies (referred to as providers of outpatient physical therapy and speech-language pathology services); comprehensive outpatient rehabilitation facilities (CORFs); Home Health Agencies (HHAs); hospices; an outpatient departments of hospitals; Critical Access Hospitals (CAHs); and Skilled Nursing Facilities (SNFs). These requirements do not apply to non-certified therapy providers, such as therapists in private practice or group practices (commonly referred to as Therapists in Private Practice (TPPs)). These TPPs are treated in a manner similar to physician offices and practices. TPPs may closely resemble CMS-certified outpatient therapy providers and it is difficult to differentiate between the two without knowing how each is enrolled in Medicare. Outpatient therapy providers are certified providers that receive a survey from the State Agency (SA) or a CMS-approved Accrediting Organization (AO) as part of the enrollment process. Upon completion of enrollment, outpatient therapy providers receive a CMS Certification Number, or CCN, that the organization uses to bill Medicare for services furnished. TPPs in Medicare are not surveyed as an outpatient therapy provider and are issued a Provider Transaction Access Number (PTAN) for Medicare billing purposes. Therapists may also reassign their benefit to another professional or TPP (therapist, physician, or group practice) to allow them to bill for them and may work in a physician practice. If you are enrolled in Medicare and the enrollment included a survey by a SA or AO because you enrolled as a CMS-certified therapy provider such as a provider of outpatient physical therapy and speech language pathology services and you have a CCN instead of a PTAN, the COVID-19 vaccination requirements apply to all applicable staff in the organization. If your Medicare enrollment resulted in a PTAN, not a CCN, you are not a certified provider and the COVID-19 vaccination requirements do not apply, although CMS encourages all individuals who work with patients to receive vaccinations, whether or not they are subject to this regulation.
Pay attention to the bolded line above (emphasis mine) and maybe that can help you figure out if your medical facility is exempt or not. Just seeing medicare patients and billing medicare is not enough to make the mandate apply to you.
I agree that merely being reimbursed for a covered medical procedure like an insurance company payment doesn’t make a medical facility the indentured servant of the federal government!
I read the legal vomit while one name was going through my mind, Kaiser.
Let’s take two entities, one that plays the CMS certification game and one who merely bills CMS for services. What’s the difference? Not the cert part, but the everyday part.
I still see this as continuing to drive a wedge through society to keep people anxious, stressed and suspicious of each other. However, for independent medical folks, perhaps they dodged one bullet, plenty more headed their way. Stay frosty!
My Dr has a private practice and no one got the jab (by choice) he treats covid and prescribes IVM and HCQ etc.
Insurance companies are basically dropping him. He is now out of the network. You have to pay to see him and then seek reimbursement.
They get you in so many ways. It’s a mafia, comply or suffer damages.
Wow. You are lucky.
What state is this?
Yeah, lucky is right, in Oregon the state medical board sanctions and pulls licenses of physicians like that.
I would gladly pay to see him without reimbursement!
Amen!
I am so angry at Big Harma and these insurance companies that I would gladly work out a payment plan with my PCP and specialists. In fact I’ve already done it with a few of them.
I know there are some hosp. in FL. that are not requiring the vax.
They shouldn’t require the vax because (a) they are all experimental and (b) none of them prevents viral transmission, so safety is a moot point.
Most likely it will be assumed that if any of the patients that use your wife’s clinic who receive either Medicare or Medicaid would deem that clinic as receiving federal money; which means your wife may not be ‘safe’ from being required to have one of the mRNA ‘vaccines’.
Perhaps your wife can give herself the ..”vaccine” since she is a doctor. The tyrants are forcing us to work around their mandates.
It comes down to the limits on Federal Power..in the business setting, the Court (even Roberts and Kavanaugh) found that allowing a Federal Administrative Agency (OSHA) to mandate to private, non-Medical care provider companies a medical vaccine to their employees was a bridge too far….in the Healthcare context, the Court found that the DHS has the power to mandate medical workers who fall under Federal programs and funding, especially since they are in the business of providing “medical care”…I’m not saying I agree with the Court’s position, but we should be able to make distinctions between the 2 situations…I count this as a win, because the OSHA power was curtailed, and I believe the medical provider mandate is already failing under its own weight, as we can see in CA where they have to allow covid positive workers because they dont have enough healthcare workers
but we should be able to make distinctions between the 2 situations
There’s no distinction between the cases. Both are the same issue: the Federal government telling American workers they have to take an experimental gene modification they don’t want to take and they can’t undo. On one hand SCOTUS says OSHA hasn’t that authority. On the other hand SCOTUS says a different federal agency (DHS) does have that authority.
BOTH CAN’T BE TRUE.
The majority got it right rejecting the OSHA mandate. They should’ve rejected the DHS mandate, too. If OSHA has no authority to mandate, neither does DHS. DHS has no authority to tell nursing homes they won’t get Medicare/Medicaid reimbursement/payment unless nursing home workers are genetically modified. SCOTUS’ claim otherwise is a bridge way too far.
The question we need to be asking is why SCOTUS split the baby here. What’s their end goal? A head fake to gain some lost respect back? A move to slow the communist takeover so Americans will go back to sleep and the communists can resume their takeover then?
There are critical distinctions in every situation…it is at least arguable that a healthcare worker who works at a federally funded medical provider DISPENSING health care to sick people COULD fall rightfully under Federal control regarding having to get a vaccine…I didnt say I agreed with it, but it’s a tenable argument compared to a private company’s employees making non-healthcare related products or services should be forced to be vaccinated by a Federal Administrative Agency like OSHA (and the endless ramifications on private businesses if this was allowed to stand)…the Supreme Court wasnt asked to rule on whether the vaccines were safe or experimental…only whether the Federal Govt had the power to promulgate a rule that forced employees to get a vaccine.
Now, having said that, everything is political, and any one who thinks the justices should or will be blind to ideology when they make their ruling is playing political tiddlywinks….Roberts and Kavannaugh might very well be throwing a bone to the commies, but they are on much firmer grounds in the Federal Healthcare context than the Private Business OSHA context
Well said
Does SCOTUS have a vaccine mandate? Does congress? If not, then they have no business whatsoever mandating it for others.
You clearly have no standing and can’t be allowed to point this out.
you are thinking too logically
According to a news article about the ruling, all nine justices have been vaxxed and boosted.
Really bad news if we don’t want Thomas or Alito kicking off anytime soon.
Jen Psaki is having a temper tantrum as I write this.
Well, she’s never going to have a truth tantrum.
Jen Psnazi would look awesome in that old Saturday Night Live skit where the girl’s head explodes
Ginger mad!😂
How the heck can they mandate something that has yet to complete a trial?! These are still considered experimental. This is outrageous. Let alone unconstitutional. Nobody should be required to have a medical intervention, let alone experimental.
So far gone…..
This is exactly the point that has been butchered; these aren’t ‘vaccines’ at all. They are experimental gene therapies.
Why on earth anyone would permanently alter their bodies ability to fight infection by injecting an experimental gene therapy – aimed at a virus with 99.997 survivability – is beyond me.
If you’ve taken the shot or the boosters – more power to you.
But it make no sense to me at all.
We have no health outcomes, that takes time. It is still in trial. It takes at least 5 years of safety trials to bring a drug or new vaccine to market. And these have never been done before in humans to boot.
Don’t get the “ more power to you” part for those that took a Covid bioweapon injection that doesn’t prevent you from getting Covid or spreading it for a virus that has an IFR of .2% ( Infection fatality rate).
Is there any evidence that the vaccine works?
I think the case was presented poorly, and incompletely. Many will have to pay for this mistake
Also, too late. My son was already forced to comply, as were millions of others.
I think the case was presented poorly, and incompletely. Many will have to pay for this mistake
Republicans ALWAYS HAVE LOSER LAWYERS arguing their cases. They NEVER GO FOR THE KILL. Always playing nice and fair.
The Constitution
“The rule has medical and religious exemptions.”
That’s the ticket out for healthcare workers. “Pssst Doc, I need a note…”
But what about the states that do not allow for medical or religious exemptions, like New York?
New York State has already left the Union and will do whatever they want! IMHO
It means their hosp. will be a Train Wreck.
Already happening.
Isn’t NYS the place where they’re letting the Covid positive come back to work, just cuz they’re short of staff?
They’re letting COVID+ staff come back to work (who are usually vaxxed) but not the unvaxxed… it’s all political.
Yeah… the one they struck down was IMO the worst… no exemptions offered, and basically incentivizing employers to only hire or keep vaxxed people.
I think you have the Federal Contractor Mandate confused with the OSHA mandate. The OSHA mandate had exemptions, you could test out, and it didn’t apply to remote workers. The Federal Contractor mandate has no exceptions and is still under injunction. The 11th Court rejected the stay that was requested. I believe arguments are scheduled for later this month so there’s still one more to go.
I am happy with the result today but to be honest, mad that this was even an issue. This was all part to the great reset and to get people conditioned to obeying. Most people did, happily. This emboldened the communists.
We need to have a strategy to get rid of globalists. Destroy them.
We need to label them in a clear way. Most people don’t get the term RINO or globalists. If we have to keep explaining what that means we will never get our message across. It’s infective, our message has been ineffective for this level of evil.
The Great Reset needs to be labeled as the mark of beast, luciferian, and we need to include RINOs with that group.
The people in the satanic global takeover.
Make the left have to keep defending themselves. Accuse accuse accuse and discredit them.
We need to be consistent. Pick one effective label and we all go with it, until it clicks with low info voters.
Satanic globalists, the goal is so they have zero support from either side. Satan’s global take over.
Pick a side, evil or good. That needs to be the core of our message. No more kid style politics while the left sends our people to jail.
I like the suggestion someone made here recently to replace RINO (Republican In Name Only) with DID –
Democrat In Drag
It’s catchy and memorable and more accurate all at once!
We need to reframe this argument. They think they are all “vaccinated” but they are really “transhuman,” due to their permanently altered, human genome.
I’m no scientist but, due to a process known as reverse transcriptase, these gene “edits” permanently alter the DNA.
Everybody is UNvaccinated by definition. The two camps should be framed as fully human and (partly) transhuman.
These Justices…..please point to where in the Constitution it says unelected doctors and beaurocrats get to make law outside of Congress?
The only justices stepping outside their bounds are the two who lied on the bench. What is their thought on a judge lying in court from the bench to drive a political stance rather than a factual one?
What about the federal employee mandate non health care workers?
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I love my career as a practicing clinician in healthcare. I’ve worked in several industries, and none have been as rewarding. I have already taken the first jab 11 months ago, and will soon be expected to take the booster.
I am strongly considering walking away. There are many who are like me.
If this stands, the healthcare industry is going to collapse.
There will be work for you. There will always be a way. You might not make as much money as now, but there will be people who will pay you.
That’s the plan.
I’m worried for my children, daughter is an oncology pharmacist and has so far escaped using the religious exemption. Son is in medical school and was forced to get the vax. I’m terrified he’ll get forced into the boosters now. Just sickening
mac, who approved the exemption? The employer?
Yes, the hospital she works for
It’s all up to the HR departments. The ones with smarter legal teams will approve the exemptions.
Offering a “choice” via exemptions, is the only way for employers to avoid legal liability for failed mRNA injections.
getouttahea: I, too, am in healthcare. The Feds want 100% control of healthcare, by any means necessary. The collapse is intentional. Look at all the private hospitals calling for help from federal “Covid SWAT teams.” Those federalized healthcare workers will never leave.
I noticed your comment, above, about losing 40% of your business if you give up Medicare patients. Sounds like a good deal to me. Our practice has always been 100% fee-for-service. No insurance accepted as payment. No government assistance programs.
Look at it this way: You are serving patients who would not other wise walk in your front door if someone else wasn’t paying the bill (or a portion, thereof).
Are you guys looking for a physical therapist? 🙂
It will collapse and I honestly believe the medical industrial complex must collapse and be rebuilt bottom up. The Hippocratic oath and true informed consent must be the cornerstones of a new system, and government health insurance must be eliminated.
“The administration nonetheless still views the rule as a success at already driving millions of people to get vaccinated and for private businesses to implement their own requirements that are unaffected by the legal challenge.”
I don’t care about the administration’s views, they’re corpses to me, but the reality of millions of people being forced to do something against their will out of fear of sanctions or job loss that’s a different kettle of fish, and that reality still remains, particularly while the courts more generally still align with the virus emergency narrative, since court is the only solution for law abiding citizens put in such predicaments.
I consider this a very minor win, almost infinitesimal in the length and breadth of a very long war against the Communists. The battle apparently still rages on for millions of health care workers and states and businesses are still quite unencumbered to institute any version of the mandates, or ‘guidance’, they so choose.
Real peoples lives have been destroyed and real people have died through actions of government under color of law. Never forget.
Some justices never learned the advice for the ignorant to remain silent lest you open your mouth and remove all doubt….
What is good label for the Globalists?
Satanic Global Takeover?
We need a short message and we need to start labeling RINOs+Ds together. Mitch, Romney, Cheney, Trudeau, Macron, Boris, all included in this one group. One group, one name. Evil x good.
One group, one name.
Cowards.
Kleen: Communists, because they are. They just want be in the central politburo.
Globalists covers all of them.
Also, using the term “Satanic” can turn away those who are not religious or might see this as a step too far . And as for labeling them “communists,” well, there actually are people in the left who don’t see that as a bad thing and don’t interpret that word the way most here do ( just saw some comments on off-guardian that fall into that category). I think it’s important, essential even, for all of us to work together to defeat the small, powerful group that is trying to take over the world. That’s why I prefer to use the term “globalists.”
“Fascist” still works for me…
However, the court did allow (5-4) the federal vaccine mandate for federally funded healthcare agencies.
I will be avoiding any healthcare provider who loves Fed $$$’s. Yep, I might not see big dollar screenings for my healthcare, but then, neither did my ancestors.
Phflipper: Those big-dollar screenings are a significant waste of money and resources for 80% of cases. You don’t need them, and, when you do, they will not necessarily make a difference in outcome. Sometimes, lives will be saved or quality of life improved or protected, but, less than you would think.
BRAVO! I HEAR TRUTH!
Doesn’t this ruling enforce the real way needed to fix America and Americanism? Our country has arrived at this critical juncture because too many Laws have been ‘interpreted’ instead of enforced. This most recent ‘interpretation’ by nine robed un elected judges serves to highlight the abdication by our Legislative Branch. It it easier for them to do so unless a Law is concise. Now is the time to strictly follow passed and written Laws or change them properly. Until Government does this all three government Branches will stay infested with self-interest. We have THREE branches of Government for a reason.
Would that we still were functioning under three branches of government. That is no longer the case.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=fourth+branch
Kavanaugh and Roberts need to be Impeached and removed if Republicans ever get the House and 2/3 of Senate.
Kavanaugh and Roberts need to be
Impeachedimpaled and removed if Republicans ever get the House and 2/3 of Senate.It’s too bad Beach Lady/Girl wasn’t successful… I’m so *sorry* I felt *sorry* for Kavanaugh!!!
Old Yell-er isn’t having a good day. But America is.
This is what you get dancing with dictators. Someday your next to be screwed. Stand on principles.
This should nullify the legal coverage employers who have already forced shots more opening the way for class action suits, wrongful terminations and shot-induced deaths and injuries.
Only if the employer denies the exemption.
And Graham, McConnell, Thune and McCarthy say what??
The executive branch just took over the responsibility of law making.
I guess Congress is relegated to just collecting special interest/kick back money
It’s ceremonial at this point.😒
I don’t think they care. The 💰 is more important IMHO
What’s the differnce between private business and medicaid and medicare workers?
It’s public and private buy why knock down one and let the other stand?
I don’t get that.
Glad they knocked down what they did but now they’ll screw up medicare for us geezers..
Private business do not see medicaid patients so no fed dollars. Feds are using their dollars to dictate.
Thanks for the heads up.
They can stick their “vaccine” mandates up their asses!
I knew yesterday that this decision was coming, the large hospitals were tipped off already about it. Great for America’s small businesses and workers but this will only further decline our Medical system. Which is what they want. They will collapse it by force and then usher in their Socialist Medical coverage for all. At least I can take some comfort in knowing if they don’t ok my religious exemption at the hospital I work at, I can find another job out there in a more free sector.
I don’t think I will be reentering into nursing at any point, at least with any major medical institution. Was already going against it having been greatly disillusioned. I have been keeping current with my license.
Real quandary for folks. Reading the thread, it looks like entities which aren’t a narrow description of CMS certification, bla, bla, aren’t covered, so plenty of health care opportunities left in the official health care economy.
However, with all the rancor, and state boards suspending and revoking licenses, I expect a parallel system to gain more traction and it’ll be the skills, not the government stamp of approval, that dictates opportunity. Government can take away a license but they can never take away the skills and experience and knowledge and creativity, unless they kill us. They’re trying awfully hard!
I won’t go near hospitals or woke businesses. I welcome the opportunity to patronize normal establishments that are free of mass formation psychosis bullies.
The country is going to need parallel economy nurses. Probably very badly.
Please reconsider.
I’m thinking the same.
It will be just like all other socialized medicine countries….2 systems. One for fed hostage patients and one for those who can pay cash. 60%-80% taxes on the population to pay for it. Patients will not be allowed to sue. As goes in socialized countries. The situation is coming.
Basically the IK and Canada
aishechayal: I agree with you. Private hospitals started moving on this before the decision was announced, by putting out new calls for federal assitances from FEMA Covid teams. It’s all part of the plan, in full effect, to federalized healthcare.
I live in California. Nitwit Newsom is already pushing for single payer health insurance. When this gets passed, our medical system will collapse. The prices the State of Calif is willing to pay doctors, health clinics, & hospitals is so low, many doctors have already retired or left being physicians to work for health research institutes or big pharma.
I spend days on the phone looking for a doctor to take me as a patient. I have medicare and a PPO supplement as a retired state employee. I have the State of Calif insurance now. Big deal!
Medical insurance means nothing if you don’t have the medical infrastructure to back it up.
One thing I have always known, working for the State of Calif. is, the idiots in charge never look farther than what will the optics look like for doing “X”. There hasn’t been any rational decision making on any issue here in Calif in a long time.
Right now they are pushing us to get electric cars. And yet, our electricity is turned off all the time for fires, the ambient temperature is too hot, the wind is blowing, etc.
I hope the FLCCC is thinking about forming hundreds of private medical practices around the country where they don’t take Medicare or Medicaid but charge reasonable fees for the 100M Patriots otherwise health care as we use to know it is dead.
I wonder if the 100M helped fund this national network of Patriot Private medical facilities could that help make it more affordable for the Patriots who are currently on Medicare or Medicaid?
$100M x $100 = $10,000,000,000
Going forward it appears the 100M Patriots will be on their own so we should start to plan, organize our own private Patriot medical and possibly grocery channels.
Yeah, there is an opportunity here to create a parallel medical system. Check out Clayton Christensen’s book “The Innovator’s Prescription,”. Lots of good stuff that can be implemented by anybody that wants to put it to use.
Precisely.
Medicare and our system here in Canada is a con.
IMO private institutions will rise above this B.S.
I am in my sixties, as is the wife. Seniors we know are always at our “ free doctors “ for something or other.
Many are on a mind numbing number of medications all” free” or heavily subsidized. Most of the meds by their own admission do little to help them, and are often complaining about how they don’t work.
All the while carrying 60lbs of blubber, and are pretty much stuck in their lazy boys.
Sure some folks will be hurt.
Life ain’t fair is it.
But the farce we are going through now ain’t fair either.
Cheers!
Yes, one is going concierge, $150 a month is what he charges. Not through insurance.
I’ll take it!
One of those orgs.- either FLCCC or AFLD- made an announcement that they were setting up the groundwork for Clinics around the country for Unvaxxed HC workers.
That was a month or so ago.
Hoping one gets started in my area.
Remote Health Services is one
Years ago I managed a diagnostic procedures dept for a hospital with associated clinic. One of the clinic docs was a cash-only doc who did not accept insurance company payments. Patients of that doc had their own billing/pricing structure. A diagnostic procedure that an insurance patient was billed $150 – $750 or more for, cost the cash-only patient $25…$25. BUT, those patients also were able to receive the diagnostic test and the hospital/clinic their payment without the Med Coding Dept and the back and forth of making sure the patient’s complaint, doc’s diagnosis, and prescribed treatment and diagnostic procedures all matched a list of acceptable combination of words to get the payment from the insurance company or fed program.
Seems mighty attractive to remove the red tape from the machinery, especially since it only gums up the workings and does nothing to improve the care or quality of service in the end, and necessitates the additions to the processes that further drive up the cost and requirements for the machinery, eventually causing the loss of purpose those who chose the Healthcare profession thought they were pursuing.
A diagnostic procedure that an insurance patient was billed $150 – $750 or more for, cost the cash-only patient $25…?
I’ve been aware of this forever but was always responsible for someone else who needed specialized care that could get hit with big medical bills so I has to remain protected. It’s different now so I will be looking into what is available.
Thank you AncientHuntress. Hope you got a deer this past deer season! 😎
The cash-only doc did not discriminate and deny services to anyone based on their insurance coverage…there was just no billing of insurance company by the doc and payments were usually made right away…sometimes even as a side of beef, chickens, or vegetables from the garden 😁
A good time to be considering dropping medicare. Just complete form CMS1763. I have already downloaded it from the social security website.
Wait, I know it’s been awhile (40+ years) since I was in college, but when working towards my nursing license I was taught that Medicare was a MANDATORY program and that one could be jailed and or fined heavily if not enrolled timely… Has this changed?
100% agree- this is the way out of the healthcare medical industrial complex which is corrupt beyond repair.
So…all of the snowflake Karens who worship this virus. Are they all going to quit their jobs because some of their fellow employees aren’t jabbed? Also, any business that continues to mandate this non vaccine, should be boycotted. And make it The Mother of All Boycotts!
Healthcare workers are citizens too!!!! This is discrimination.
Complete Bull S#%T that health care workers are forced into taking the death jab. EFF Brett Jesuit Kavanaugh with a rusty tin can. I hope he rots in Hades for all the illness and death he is going to cause health care providers.
GOD won
Mark of the Beast lost.
Unless you are a health car professional that is.
SAVE AMERICA
PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP
JANUARY 13, 2022
PALM BEACH, FL
Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America
The Supreme Court has spoken, confirming what we all knew: Biden’s disastrous mandates are unconstitutional. Biden promised to shut down the virus, not the economy but he has failed miserably on both—and mandates would have further destroyed the economy. We are proud of the Supreme Court for not backing down. No mandates!
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Good statement but incomplete – ignores that the CMS mandate was upheld.
The irony of the people in the country most apt to know where they stand on “vaccines” given their work during covid and treating patients with covid and “vaccine” reactions is inescapable.
They are the people most likely to have anything resembling informed consent or rejection.
I guess this strike at the healthcare industry is just another iteration of the Biden regime’s break it before we can build back better.
Mandate on health care workers will insure the federal takeover of our healthcare. That is no small victory. Control the healthcare and control the masses.
Yeah and Napolean took Moscow…how’d that work out for him?
Exactly. This is not a win. How long before any profession that receives Federal dollars is mandated?
I think the regime maxed out its current potential for mandate authority. Big loss on the OSHA, but that was always a bigger reach because it wasn’t really grounded in any power granted to the federal government. Can’t even re-label it a tax. /sarc
Anything more would take a new federal statute. Which makes the mid-term elections even higher stakes.
Someone needs to file a real lawsuit and overturn this. This time present medical evidence against it as well. This is unprecedented.
I did not read the official rulings but did read Epoch Times’ analysis and quotes.
So apparently and ironically, the justices who voted for the healthcare mandate used a false argument as a foundation for their vote — that the vaccine actually protects healthcare workers from the virus; this is flawed logic based on what we know to be false science.
Here is the paragraph from Epoch Times:
“Justices falsely said that getting a COVID-19 vaccine would “substantially reduce the likelihood that health care workers will contract the virus and transmit it to their patients,” which does not align with studies and real-world data on the effect of vaccination against the Omicron variant of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.”
Not so sure, like Sundance, that this isn’t the AIC (American Intelligence Community) virus. If the CCP gets caught releasing a virus, then it could result in consequences, sanctions and war. If the AIC releases the virus there is absolutely no consequence under the 4th Branch.
I hope no other countries decide to come after the USA for releasing this if that is what happened.
The CEO of the hospital my husband works at got the jab. She called him on Monday and told him she has covid and she could not believe she has it. The CEO is a former nurse. I guess she hasn’t seen the data.
My whole company was basically dancing around waving their vax cards, not masking and feeling quite superior, until Omicron hit.
Then they all dropped like flies! Every single one of them.
My symptoms were actually milder than theirs, probably because I have been taking the Zelenko prophylaxis protocol all along. I never got injected, and my immune system worked just fine!
The healthcare industry is full of these brainwashed morons- anyone who chooses to take Covid 19 bioweapon injection gets what they took- health/life destroying bioweapon.
The mandate is for facilities that deal with CMS. There was perfectly good healthcare BEFORE Medicare and there is currently a market for non-Medicare healthcare. I’m on Medicare and have opted out of medical care rather than go near local Covid-centric providers. I hope to move soon to an area with affordable, non-Medicare, self-pay options.
MJ Heins: You made the right decision and are making the right moves. Stay away from providers who rely on government payments. The system is rotten. Unfortunately, so is the system that depends on private insurance reimbursement. Pay out of pocket and you’ll get better care–and better service.
Retired Magistrate here: I will take any win we can get. I really didn’t think the Supreme Court would rule on these two cases this fast; thought they would drag their heels until everyone was forced to be faxed and then make a ruling when it would not matter. So, as far as I am concerned, it is a win.
Don’t like the ruling on health care workers. However, since all hospitals that I know of have taken federal money either in the form of Medicare, Medicaid or have been paid from federal funds for treating covid 19 patients, I can certainly understand the rationale for the ruling. I think as the health care worker shortage gets worse and worse you will see hospitals start to back off their demands that everyone be vaccinated; in fact, some already have. Having someone from the National Guard, unless he/she is a trained nurse or doctor, administer to your medical needs does not give a person a warm and fuzzy feeling.
Agreed, IMO this is a good thing, as many health care workers are unionized and my bet is a majority vote D.
Just my opinion.
The first part is terrific.
The second part would suggest that the better healthcare workers GTFO of their place of employment or go the health and or religious exemption route.
So the Bush Bros. joined the commies to uphold the vaccine mandate on federal healthcare workers, huh?
Why am I not surprised.
Kavanaugh must have sold his soul to be a Supreme Court Justice.
Stevie Wonder could have seen that Kavanaugh was a pathetic, weak and conflicted individual at his hearings.
What a pussy.
How does this Supreme Court decision affect vaccine mandates for truck drivers? Will American and foreign truck drivers be able to continue driving, if they’re not vaccinated?
My understanding is BUSIENSSES do not have to comply only health care workers who work for a facility that is provided government funding (I.e Medicare and Medicaid)
I wouldn’t want to get on a plane w/ a vaxxed Pilot at the helm. Stupidest (and most dangerous) idea ever to demand they get vaxxed.
2 min. vid fr/ Dec. 28.
Pilot is talking about forced vax.
Nike will begin firing unvaccinated employees this weekend according to a report by The Oregonian.
The company, which has had a vaccine mandate in place since October, will fire unvaccinated employees who have not received a medical or religious exemption on Saturday, Jan. 15.
“You failed to complete the verification process and our records show that you do not have an approved (exemption),” reads an e-mail sent to a Nike employee last week. “As a result, you are not in compliance with the Policy and your employment is scheduled to be terminated on Saturday, January 15, 2022.”
https://www.complex.com/sneakers/nike-fire-unvaccinated-employees
Even without OSHA breathing down their necks, in this current climate of fascism, I’d fully expect business to go along, particularly if they’ve been heavily sucking on the Treasury tit the last couple years.
I consider this a pause in turning the pot temperature, giving the frogs a feeling that they will indeed survive.
Buncha slave labor scum anyways. In bed with the CCP. Hope they go broke.
No shoes will becshipped from China after Jan 23. What are they going to do?
Oh noes!
I know a whole family who got vaxxed (parents and 2 teens), and are now refusing the Booster.
They’re done w/ it.
As always, as always: “Exactly what is“ a “health expert?” Well, it turns out that there are by now many thousands, if not tens-of-thousands, of medical doctors, worldwide, who do not at agree with these self-appointed “health experts!”
And – why should they? Isn’t the entire point(!) of “medical practice” that the physician should – with proper “peer input,” of course – manage his/her relationship with the patient … with the “informed consent” of the latter?
Yeah. Stupid things. Stupid things like: “Your(!) Body belongs to you!”
However – there is now a vastly more-important consideration that is now of vastly more importance to a very great many “well-placed people.” And that singular(!) consideration is very simply: money.
In fact – “hundreds of billions of dollars of it,” and if we have our way, “now multiple trillions.” 💰
Anyone else think the DHS health mandate may open the door to denial of Medicare and Medicaid if one refuses to become genetically modified? And that Social Security benefits may be denied later?
I do absolutely and have thought so for many months
I see that coming
Just as surely as the Sun rose from the East.
Now, will SCOTUS uphold it?
Who knows with Kavanaugh and Roberts. SMH
You could be right. IDK though, there’s a lot of military veterans on Social Security and getting VA medical care. Me, I wouldn’t want to piss off a few million old guys with little to lose and training as professional killers, but that’s me.
I’ve been thinking that from the beginning.
Kavanagh who President Trump labeled a “Constitutionalist” has lost his copy of the Constitution! The guy is not only a weakling but he’s immoral and a traitor to his oath and his country!
Disappointed; not surprised, but still disappointed. Both cases should have been 9-0 against mandates.
Jeez this Court sucks.
IMO, The five that voted to mandate health care workers must now comply with the never ending jabs, just destroyed quality health care and could lead to millions of harmed patients and unnecessary deaths.
Think about this……
In around the past 12 months, these workers will all have had possible 4 jabs each jab with millions if not billions of spike proteins in them.
Then come March 2022 they get the privilege of getting the New Omicron Jab.
So possibly 5 jabs in 12-15 months.
Imagine if ADE is indeed found to be a major side effect of these jabs as some medical experts have speculated to occur within 5 years.
They just may have help cause major harm and possibly death to thousands of America’s best medical doctors, surgeons and health care workers and a critical industry.
In five years who is left to do a heart transplant or any other normal invasive medical procedure?
We had a slew of Physicans “RETIRE” when Obamacare was implemented. That was over their livelyhood, the second that Peer Reviewed Research is released showing long term side effects, these people will naturally quit!
This will also drive away the best and brightest! Healthcare will enter a Dark Age!
Health care gets a lot of our attention because sometimes our very lives depend on it but government, in general, has driven out a lot of highly skilled humans, motivated humans, with their inane and lately insane policies and draconian rules. The only thing they haven’t done is provoke a domestic war, yet. Not for want of trying though. God bless American citizens, we cling to peace like a drowning man with a life preserver.
F kavanaugh. What a dead end we got in that one.
Leftists are cowards, and I’m wondering if he didn’t get attacked so hard because they saw him as a soft target, not a hard one.