I’ll get into a little detail about why this CDC change, if implemented, will only speed up the economic crisis we are about to enter. [However, don’t share that aspect with anyone other than those closest to you.] First, the change being discussed…
Surgeon General Vivek Murthy, the husband of a very sketchy Chinese communist party shadow official that no one ever discusses, told CNN today the CDC is likely to revise the quarantine guidance to include a negative test for COVID before exit.
(Via Daily Mail) – The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is expected to further change its recommendations for Americans diagnosed with COVID-19, potentially requiring a negative test to leave isolation before ten days.
Last week, the agency shortened its recommended isolation period from 10 days to five days for people who have minimal Covid symptoms. The move drew criticism from experts who said a negative test should’ve been included.
Surgeon General Dr Vivek Murthy said that the CDC is working to further revise the isolation guidance, telling CNN on Tuesday that he expects a clarification ‘any day now.’
‘What they’re trying to do – and it’s important to say more broadly – is recognize and incorporate both the evolving science on Omicron and on prior variants in terms of how long somebody remains contagious, with the critical need to maintain essential services,’ Murthy told CNN.
‘I believe that there will be a role for antigen testing here to help reduce risk as well,’ he said. The further-updated guidance could impact millions of Americans, as the country reports record case numbers during the Omicron surge. (read more)
Here’s why this is going to be exponentially more problematic ,and be cautious who you tell about this.
First, imagine the impact to the U.S. industrial and service economy when workers who have ordinary colds and sniffles are now taking five days off work, and cannot come back until they test negative for the cold/flu virus. That’s what the CDC was trying to avoid when the original guidance was modified.
If essential workers with ordinary sniffles, sneezes, coughs, stuffy-heads and general aches and pains do not come to work because these are Omicron symptoms, the U.S. economy is going to be in staggeringly big trouble at a macro and micro level.
Add to that an inflated and ‘blown out of proportion‘ reaction to the seasonal cold with a demand for a negative test, and there are limited to zero tests readily available, and it is not hard to see what happens to business operations throughout the country. Already existing shortages of workers, products and services only gets worse…. exponentially worse.
Production stops. Manufacturing slows… end products get less. Transporation, warehousing and distribution (the logistics aspect) gets hit with the boxcar effect again. Quickly, store shelves get bare, and products become scarce. The supply chain issues that already exist only get worse, much worse.
Some businesses then have to close. Those employees that could work, then can’t. The downstream consequence from a disrupted workforce will make the supply chain issues of 2020 look like a mere hiccup compared to what’s coming.
Food distribution is a complex system of logistics, warehousing, transportation, delivery and preparation. There are two macro sectors: “food at home” (grocery stores etc), and “food away from home” (restaurants etc.) In 2020, the country learned how interconnected the supply chain is when 50% of the possible food distribution (restaurants, cafeterias etc) was turned off.
Within days of turning off restaurants, the other side of the food supply chain was overwhelmed, and that shock to the system lasted for several months. Most people don’t know that the supply chain is still dealing with the downstream consequences. Grain silos were wiped out as manufacturers demanded more raw material to process. Ingredients like citric acid, flavorings, and preservatives have still not recovered (go look for flavored sports drinks).
Pet food manufacturers were lowered in priority for distribution of raw material, and that raw material comes at a much higher price. The pet food sector is still less than 50% recovered from where it was before the restaurants were shut down in early 2020. That’s how long this impact has lasted.
People just do not know how the U.S. food supply system operates on massive storage systems for bulk products to smooth out the seasonal fluctuations for food commodities. It is a very complex system to deliver fresh products (produce, fish, meats) and simultaneously organize, store and distribute, the raw materials for things like flour, bread, cereals, soups, and frozen foods.
Trust me, if everyone decided to eat only fresh foods starting tomorrow, there would be fist fights in the supermarket, because there’s not enough of that fresh stuff to feed all of America. We need, heck we rely upon, processed foods, manufactured foods, shelf stable and refrigerated/frozen stable foods, in order to fulfill the total caloric needs of 350,000,000 people.
This grocery store supply chain has never recovered from the mistake of closing 50% of food distribution in 2020. CTH warned at the time what would happen, and it did. We then watched the predictable five phases of impact show up.
If you remember the shortages of products and services in 2020, you have a baseline for what is about to happen in two weeks. This next round is going to be worse. Last year’s grain harvest is already almost gone. Most of the next round of harvests cannot start for months. The food storage our supply chain depends upon to smooth out seasonality is nearly exhausted, and the inbound prices show the scarcity.
It’s not one thing; it’s a multitude of things. However, add on top of that a major employment disruption with quarantines and tests, and, well, you can see where this is heading. The service sectors like hospitality, hotels, restaurants and home services will be stretched very thin.
Prepare for your family accordingly.
Secure yourselves for coming shortages. Don’t forget your pets. The window to be ahead of the zombie swarm is now down to around 15 days.
I wonder if the threat of starvation will override the fear of covid among the masses…..could get interesting.
I’m spray painting a big covid quarrantine warning sign across my garage door just in case.
Just for good measure, include other warning signs for leprosy, tuberculosis, radiation exposure, and asbestos contamination.
See the movie “Second hand lion” what you describe sounds like the signs on the entrance to their property.
“rabid dogs” “and pig”, lol.
Great movie!
…maybe a sign saying you support the 2nd amendment. I’m thinking of putting lambs blood on the front door.
It will attract flies so make sure to hang a bar of Irish Spring soap in a net bag to keep them away.
Sounds like California.
<..the threat of starvation will override the fear of covid among the masses…>
2022 version of ‘The Hunger Games’ 🙂
Interesting supply problems are happening here, in Northern Arizona. The Safeway grocery stores have not had any produce deliveries for 4 days and the empty bins are frightening. We stopped at Jack in the Box for lunch. The site where we place orders is about 6 car lengths from the window to pick up orders. We ordered cheeseburgers and Tacos. When we got to the window the clerk told us there were no pickles or tomatoes for the burgers, and no sauce or cheese for the tacos. Daughter said, how about you use the cheese you put in the burgers for the tacos. “Can’t do that, the clerk said, “because the shape of the cheese in the burgers is different from the shape of the cheese for the tacos.” We were hungry so ate it the way he made it. Subsequently friends told us the same thing is happening in restaurants. Forget how you used to dine; they tell you what they have and you ignore the menu or go elsewhere.
I usually get frozen carrots when I shop. But today there were no frozen carrots. So I got frozen “peas & carrots” – close enough.
No milk here in NV yesterday.
This reminds me of how it was in Romania back in 1992…
Based on psychological studies of mass psychosis the answer is no–the brainwashed cannot comprehend and will viciously fight to maintain their state of psychosis. Prepare accordingly because any who counter their psychotic narrative are a threat which must be destroyed, literally.
No, I truly believe some of the fools out there would let themselves starve to death…if told to by Fauci (or any other anointed one). All he would have to say is “Starving fights Covid”
Poof- half the country will starve themselves. Politicians will mandate starvation.
Sadly, this is not far-fetched any longer.
I agree, just look at how many stupid parents made their kids take an experimental vaccine, because they were told to. These are the same idiots who wouldn’t think twice about starving their families if told to do it.
A certain close relative had my nieces vaccinated, and trampled everyone to do so… it’s akin to a religious ritual among progs.
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Just yesterday, I read several articles pointing out the vulnerability of the obese to Wuhan Flu. Could it be we’re being prepped for a bigger push to “eat less” (still the number 1 way to lose weight). It appears that admonition isn’t going to be voluntary, after all.
And just last year, the sociopaths in the Corporate Fake News/ DNC Complex were singing the praises of “Plus” sized people.
Could these people be considering “BMI passports”? Would you put it past them?
I believe the obesity rate is what made Trump act so quickly. There are 87 million prediabetics in America, and most of them obese.
This is pretty hilarious since the country is reporting over 800,000 new cases per day. If you figure half of those are working-age people, then every day 400,000 people need an exit test to go back to work.
A lot of us have been saying for years that the only way for the US to get out of this mess is total collapse. Then we pick up the pieces, hang those responsible, and move forward. Biden’s handlers seem poised to deliver.
And didn’t they just tell us the other day that tests can continue to return a positive for up to 12 weeks?
As usual with this virus, nothing makes sense.
“We’re not wrong again. The “SCIENCE!” changed again.” – Liberals
It’s getting comical how much they are using the phrase, “We’re just following the SCIENCE!” these days.
At some point we’re going to find out whether heart attacks/heart disease inexplicably shot upwards in 2021 as the leading cause of death in the US. Let’s hope we’re all wrong and the vaccines aren’t causing irreparable heart damage.
And that robot from Star Trek, don’t forget him!
“Our reccomendations and guidance (mandates and dictates) are DATA-driven, it NOT our fault, we are following THE DATA.
Except the DATA is garbage, poorly cooked and sloppily served.
That thing looked like Zuckerbucks.
Just like the climate crap data.
I confounded a liberal friend when I pointed out the cdc inconsistencies. She said but we’re just following science! Science changes! So I then said, but how does it change nearly every week for a virus that has been studied for several years now, yet the science for climate change, which is a vastly larger topic with many more variations, is settled. Lol she had no coherent response and stalked off mad
I had the same experience lately, and just replied, “Every 13 hours?!”
Italian Job, exactly 👍. Good, you posted exactly what I was going to post. The ‘tests’ detect dead Covid, Flu, and common Cold (all Coronaviruses) particles in your body for weeks after your immune system kills it off. This ‘test to get out of quarantine’ junk is part of the communist/ globalist plan to destroy the economy. Most people at work (over 1,000 people in 3 tours) are actually following my advice to do their own research, that has helped them see through the media lies and propaganda. I will explain this latest ‘test to get out of quarantine’ thing to them too. My reputation for telling the truth (confirmed by people’s research) has gone so high the ‘Branch Covidians’ no longer dare try to argue with me, because every single time I have slapped them down with easily verified facts. Made them look like stupid, brainwashed robots. I thank Sundance and my fellow Treepers for helping me do so 🙏.
At least their eyes are being opened. Some refuse to see, rejecting truth to their own detriment.
Presumably they adjust the cycles post illness, e.g. 24 instead of 27 or 45.
That’s what you do when fudging numbers.
That’s what happens when you make it up as you go along – including the computer models.
Ask your local climate scientist for details on how that works.
And when this engineered economic collapse occurs, the communists in the WEF and in the current US administration are ready to launch the new economy, including Social Scores and digital currency. They wish to have total control and monitoring of all of your financial activity with the ability to disallow purchases that they disapprove of and suspension of your ability to purchase anything at all if you step out of line.
And RATIONING!
Oh, they must be licking their chops at the opportunities from rationing!
Given what we have seen with Covid, can you imagine the rediculous rationing mandates they will come up with?
You know, like how your safe from the virus, up until 9:55, but fined if your out after 10:00?
“You can buy spinach every other tuesday, between 5:00 and 5:30, and cauliflower every wednesday, but only if you have red hair!”
All the smash and grab looting of stores in liberal cities started at about the same time, (orchestrated) to make it seem acceptable. Once this supply chain issue and hyper inflation hit the tipping point (whenever that is) expect much more looting. The police won’t be able to control it.
Once multitudes of stores are stripped bare of ALL products the supply chain won’t be just broken it will be shattered. They will then need to call in the military to get control of the situation and rationing will officially begin. IMHO
I’m not in the US. Is a Walmart or Costco vulnerable to looting or is it just small places?
Yes they are. A couple years back the card readers for EBT went down. Some Walmarts were emptied in the ensuing chaos. https://www.theglobaldispatch.com/ebt-card-failure-hit-17-states-people-ready-to-riot-as-they-steal-from-walmart-77717/
Las time I was in one, there wasn’t any real security patrolling the place; a well-coordinated smash and grab would work just as well in those stores.
If the box store policy aligns with local custom and processing by law enforcement, shoplifting can occur in quite large quantities.
Where I historically lived in California, 950.00 was the magic number. Walk out with less than that pretty much a free ticket even at the big box stores with security. They get it on camera and it goes into the box with the Zapruder film and the porno from Hitler’s bunker but the thieves usually go scot-free.
Antithetically, defend your property from thieves and look forward to a visit from LEO’s and the district attorney prosecuting you. That’s what America is now. That’s what the Communists, mostly the wordsmiths in suits, have done. Reality.
I would wonder how many on either “side” are on tap to participate – double or triple tap…
….and the root cause for all this crao? 2020 stolen election…
Anyone willing to risk our Constitution for something unknown in the future is reckless. There is no guarantee that we would have the rights we have now. I wouldn’t want someone like that in charge any more than the clowns we have now.
The aftermath of our revolution was unique. Read up about what happened after the French Revolution. Those doing the executing ended up getting executed.
Furthermore, the world would probably lapse into numerous wars. Life wasn’t pretty after the fall of Rome.
Careful what you wish for.
Not risking our Constitution, sh!ting and trampling it – for two years, intensively.
We’re in a post-Constitutional world, Pete. To RESTORE it will mean breaking a few eggs, I am afraid.
What about the states that are not going with CDC mandates? Like Florida, for example.
Even in FL we have private businesses that are bucking the law here and giving a double-barrel middle finger salute to DeSantis’ EOs.
I find it fascinating, as an old-time business person, that businesses seem almost gleeful in firing and driving away customers, vendors and employees and being overtly discriminatory of which segments of the public they’ll engage with, particularly so with businesses who were nothing like this prior to the Covid op.
I always remember, and suggest that others do as well, it’s not ‘business’, it’s individual humans making choices borne of free will. They don’t have to fire employees and customers over a virus op. They choose to. In how many other pandemics in the U.S., and in my lifetime there have been a number, has this happened? None?
Like another member mentioned about breaking eggs, with the Communists entrenched, I seriously doubt a peaceful solution will occur. History has proven this.
We helped end the scourge of Communism in the Soviet Union by bankrupting it with military pressure for decades. Who knows how long it would’ve lasted with out that. Who’s going to pressure the Communist regime here? We’re certainly not, so far.
Beyond that, guidelines to comments limits my response. Have a pleasant day.
Publix?
I agree, the thing is, its WORLDWIDE.
Thats the “Beauty” (eyeroll) of Globalism.
If people continue to be infected at that rate, almost everyone in the U.S. will have had covid in a year. Maybe that’s the good news.
You are not paying attention. They don’t care that you had it- hence the lack of support for natural immunity. This is not about Covid…Covid is the tool and mechanism to drive their policies.
Hopefully, we achieve herd immunity quickly!!!
I wonder who is lying?
At that rate we can have a majority of the workforce out of work in two months. Glorious communism will protect us all from the sniffles while the chief executive will sniff our children.
“hang those responsible” seems the most integral part. Somehow we nee to break the hypnotism of the disaffected and remind them they do not have to exist like this. It is not capitalism or racism, or covid that is destroying their lives. It’s the globalist slave masters who so hate humanity that they love to inflict this suffering. When will they ever wake up?
The left wants to collapse our system, then claim that only they can bring us back from starvation. They are getting rid of the filibuster in order to ensure their elections right now.
This has all been planned.
OK but this only matters if companies are stupid enough to obey…
Historically, companies fight any regulation which impacts their ability to profit from their business activities. They fight through the courts, they buy politicians, they lobby with lawyers, on and on. What matters to business is money; making money and as much as possible. Greed is good.
What changed?
Speaking of coughs and colds. Here’s a simple recipe for cough syrup that may come in handy soon.
Homemade Cough Remedy
3 Jan 2022
https://barefeetinthekitchen.com/homemade-cough-remedy
Too bad I did not have this yesterday when I really needed it. Yesterday was Day 5 and the most miserable of all. The fever finally came, and lasted all day and into the night. I did stand up long enough to make a YUGE batch of homemade chicken noodle soup. Healing properties. This morning all was mostly much better.
My bedtime drink tonight is my homemade hot toddy. Whiskey, lemon, honey and green tea. Tomorrow should be a good day.
FYI, my 1st day I ate a whole garlic clove and that kept the cough at bay for hours.
Get better soon!! Stay strong
Thanks!
Add some Horehound to that whiskey. Tastes bad, but the lemon, honey and tea help .
raw honey, do not heat above 110 degrees to maintain natural healing properties.
And stock up on Numotizine, created for pneumonia.
https://www.numotizine.com/personal-care-reviews
Thank you for posting the link.
I had not heard of this before, you recommend the people version with the menthol over the veterinary version, right?
You get better, soon!
Frankly, I suspect vicks vaporub, covered with a hot damp washcloth or towel, on chest and back, would be about the same, but whatever works.
You can also use essential oils in a diffuser for cough and congestion – eucalyptus, peppermint, lavender, lemon, rosemary, geranium and cypress. Oregano is an antibacterial and antiviral, and nutmeg is an expectorant.
You can also use oils directly on your skin, just make sure to use a carrier oil like coconut to prevent irritation.
Lots of info on the web about uses, this is just one:
https: //www.essentialoilhaven.com/essential-oils-for-cough-chest-congestion/
Thieves oil in a diffuser and small amount on wrists and soles of feet (with socks at night) is also excellent for preventio. . Named for the roadside thieves who used it to ward off the Bubonic Plague
peppermint and oregano will literally burn the skin, use with sufficient carrier oil
For the last couple of weeks we’ve been buying oranges and saving all the peels. Dry them out and grind them up and you have Vitamin C, plus orange zest for cooking.
Throw a bit in your hot tea.
The peels are more loaded with citrus flavonoids, co-factors of vitamin C.
If you want big vitamin C, supplements are quicker and more reliable for a large source.
And don’t forget the peppers!
https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/ss/slideshow-foods-hot-peppers-benefits
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This is a great recipe.
I have made this for years whenever I got a cold.
The only thing different is I used garlic instead of ginger.
I will have to try it with the ginger.
Thanks
TwoLaine,
“I ate a whole garlic clove and that kept the cough at bay for hours.” Yep, it will do that. It will also keep EVERYONE ELSE at bay for a while as well too. If you want to go WHOLE HOG on that principle, take up eating kimchi. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE kimchi because I lived too long in Korea, but there’s no doubt that breathing on people after eating it can just about knock them down. Yes, I’m sure you’re asking yourself how that could happen when kimchi is nothing more than fermenting cabbage, garlic and Korean hot sauce (gochujang)…
just watched the 10 o’clock news and they said here in iowa that covid cases were rising fast and hospitals being overrun with un vax’ed people.said there are currently 770 people with covid hospitalized in the state.so 3.3 million divided by 770=4285 or 1 out of 4300 people is hospitalized with covid.oh my god we are all gonna die!my town has about 5k so there is 1 person in the hospital with covid.yeah we are being over run.
The propaganda is really going to go stratospheric with the Supreme Court hearing arguments on the 7th on OSHA and health worker mandates.
I honestly think this is why all this frenetic hysteria is taking place. Notice its media driven. They are trying to influence the SC. my view at least.
The democrats are gonna ramp this stuff up so high, because that’s what they do to intimidate people and to steal elections.
It is the desperation to keep and retain power.
That and mail-in ballots are the goal.
Just remember, if Supremes f*ck it up too much, they have largely checked off the “Jury box”…
….and we know last year’s election definitely checked off the “ballot box”…
And all of us getting yeeted off of social media checked off the “soap box”…..
The problem with the osha mandate, besides being completely illegal, irrational, and unenforceable, is there are no tests available anywhere to allow it to work.
And in MANY hospitals, part of the “We’re overrun” is not the number of patients, it is the lack of staffing, particularly nurses.
Unstaffed wards and beds are simply not available, and are not counted in hospital utilization rates.
If a hospital has 100 ICU/Emergency beds, but only staffing for 50, and has 45 patients in them, they have a 90% utilization rate. This is a part of how the news hides the facts.
All those nurses and staff they fired or alienated when they should have been dispensing 6 month scrips for IVM and D3 for the coming Delta and Omicron waves to fortify reserves for their staff …
Exactly the same propaganda here in Europe. One would think they are using a script…
Written in Chinese.
The fake administration’s equally fake experts, are in a constant state of flux. They make things up as they go, practically on a daily basis. And none of the fake experts are ever in sync. The embarrassment, fraud and incompetence, is a constant with the imbecilic administration.
Every person in this administration is a lying con artist, that goes for most of the Democrats in general. The big difference is the administration has thousands of bull horns spewing lies all across the board.
Thing is, they are touting that DIVERSITY is our strength, so diversity is more important than those white priviledge things like competence, experience and work ethic.
They have an administration where all were picked, based on the diversity boxes they checked, from the VP, Secretaries of Trans, Energy,,etc.
All consistently doing a HORRIBLE job, so totally refuting their argument for inclusion and diversity.
Only white guy that ain’t gay is apperently Brandon, representing the Alzhiemers community, I guess?
By hiring “the most diverse administration in history” they are exposing the fallacy of CRT and DEI, instead of championing it by example.
Covertly Astute, the ‘experts’. One of the things the Covidiots used to try to throw in my face- “You are not an Expert!” My answer destroyed them- ” You do not need to be an expert to know when an expert is a fake expert. You just need to know enough. Example- on this planet, look at the sky on a clear day. It is blue. Now here comes an ‘expert’ (a meteorologist) and he says “Oh no, the sky is not blue, it is green with purple polka dots!”. What are you going to believe, your own eyes, or the ‘expert’? I believe my own eyes. You Covidiots believe the ‘expert’. ” After my answer, the Covidiots would freak out and run away.
“Surgeon General Vivek Murthy, the husband of a very sketchy Chinese communist party shadow official that no one ever discusses, …”
I hate to think about how much of our government is controlled by China. (That’s in addition to the spying that China does in our country.) I wouldn’t be surprised if Murthy were trying to hurt our economy, in order to please China.
Thank goodness both Pres. Trump and Gov. DeSantis fought/are fighting to protect us. ( See https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/06/07/florida-governor-ron-desantis-signs-legislation-to-combat-communist-foreign-influence-chinese-espionage-and-theft-of-intellectual-property/ )
Why is it ALWAYS ChiCom women????? Are influential American men really that desperate, dumb, and gullible?
Perhaps they only become rich and influential because they married a ChiCom woman. Packaged deal? Hmmmm…
Dumbasses like Swalwell probably need the big IQ and (CCP) financial support at home.
A tender trap indeed, think how many CCP college girls have been available for the last 20 -30 years in the US. Smarter than the average bear too.
Did Fang Fang marry Fartswell? Nope. She practiced a “pump and dump” to get info and secrets, then split.
I’d like to think American men would have more self-worth than to sell themselves out to such dogs for a little moolah. At least the Soviet female wh*respies were better looking.
The evidence seems to say “YES”.
Beyond YES
If men are raised by feminist and/or narcissistic mothers, you inevitably have men who can be manipulated or who are very angry. This is why Dads are so important!! The move away from the traditional family has had catastrophic effect on young men. The young women who call themselves Social Justice Warriors also have learned to manipulate and dominate the conversation, and their men if they can land one. Young men are getting it from all sides. There are other reasons that our society has so many weak men – Swallwell is a perfect example. He just spews trash daily and it can never be forgotten that a CCP spy bedded him down. That’s what the Communists do – they send their beautiful, petite, exquisitely manipulative spies to entrap weak men. And due to our societal moral collapse, we have plenty of weak men to offer. It’s terribly sad, to me.
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Who knows. Maybe this will help turn California, and other Blue territories, Red.
Apologies to my fellow Sacramento citizens, but I hope the impact out here is severe.
My home, amily, dog Mitchell included, are stocked up and as, as much as we can, ready to roll.
Bring it on.
You have an assumption that these “blue” states are really blue. Not so.
Election fraud has been occurring for 20 plus years. California has been using computers to count ballots for longer.
Turning states blue only requires FAIR elections: in person citizen voting, voter ID and hand counting ballots.
3rd world check.
Indelible purple dye for thumbs might be good too.
You absolutely knew a month or so ago when the Demented Fraud made a major production out of ordering 500 million “tests” there were major intended labor disruptions coming. Not a chance the Fraud’s puppet masters aren’t driving this labor, supply and food shortages to further damage America’s middle class. Until the US crashes, the globalists can’t progress with their WEF agenda of a one world government
Are these the old tests that are getting phased out?
This food/supply chain issue and the revelation by the Indiana insurance industry of the extreme amount of deaths, is this the one two knockout punch?
will the insurance industry soon be bankrupted which crashes the stock market? Even if you had money is there food to buy?
FEMA will eventually get around to your neck of the woods to hand out MREs. Of course you will need to show proof of vaccination to get any MREs.
I remember reading from somebody in the Philippines when all this started way beck when and all the panic set in. The islands were running out of food. The government told everybody by way of public service announcements that you should put a chair out at your front door for every member of your family so that food aid could be delivered correctly.
well everybody put stacks of chairs out front of their homes. Don’t know how that worked out. I could see the US government doing something like this.
They will (selectively) bail the insurers out if they need to.
No guarantees about their plans though.
I guess I’ll stock up on chairs, as well.
every 3 months when i go for kidney function blood draw, since this hysteria began, procedure at dr ofc is to stand outside the main door til a nurse comes out to check you in, then you return to your car til they call to tell you they’re ready for you. today when i went for my appt there was a gentleman standing in front of me who was requesting to see a dr . when he told the nurse he wanted to see a dr for a RUNNY NOSE while wearing a cloth mask, i just couldn’t help myself and burst out laughing. yep, i got ‘that look’ – which only made me laugh more. thank the Lord my dr is compassionate & has common sense despite the covid policies and other than blood draws my appt are telemed as i’m also unable to wear a mask. (although i’ve been told what better place to have a stroke or heart attack than at dr ofc. Welcome to Government Run Healthcare.)
Just so you know, a Drs office is THE WORST place to have a heart attack, generally speaking.
They did emergency room rotations, during residency.
If they LIKED it (and some do) they would have become ER physicians.
The fact they are in private practice means they probably didn’t, and now they have had how many years of “routine” i.e. NOT emergency medicine?
Its a different skill set, beyond simply medical knowledge. If you don’t use it, ya lose it.
I just laughed right along with you beloved.
BREAKING: Georgia Investigators have ‘Ballot Trafficker’ Who Is Talking — Admits to Being Paid THOUSANDS in 2020 Election Ballot Boxes Ballot Harvesting Scheme — 242 Ballot Traffickers Detected
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/breaking-georgia-officials-election-worker-talking-admits-paid-thousands-2020-election-ballot-boxes-ballot-harvesting-scheme-via-true-vote/
a year late and a few trillion short…
Nothing will be done as long as the DOJ remains in the hands of Communist Democrats. Despite the mountains of evidence of widespread election fraud, the media, corrupt government officials, elected politicians and judges keep ignoring ‘The Steal’.
And what happens if you have no symptoms, but you continue to test positive??? What are these antigens detected? Are they the virus itself? Or something your body produces in response to the virus? Or bits and pieces of viruses after the immune system gets through killing them? How are they correlated to “shedding virus” that exposes others, if at all?
I’m now 18 days post my first positive test, never had a fever, never felt sick, had only mild and very occasional sneezes, sniffles, coughs. Completed the antibody therapy and going on 10 days of the FLCCC.net Ivermectin protocol.
I’m in “positive test limbo,” and don’t know how to get out. I keep testing positive, though my lovely wife has shared the house with some isolation practices, without getting it.
I’m sick of arbitrary rules announced by stupid and corrupt federal bureaucrats who have no constitutional authority to regulate the practice of medicine at all. Look it up. The states issue medical licenses. The medical societies set standards of practice, binding on the courts and medical boards, and they board certify specialists.
The FDA regulates the marketing of drugs and devices, not who can prescribe them and for what. Off label uses are up to physicians. The NIH gives out basic research grants. The CDC has some expertise, or should have, to offer states, counties, doctors to help them care for patients, but no real authority.
These people are so corrupt that the federal government just bought billions worth of Pfizer’s drug before it could be legally marketed. Stupid, corrupt, and drunk with power.
See, what you say is what I’m talking about. My onset and positive test same day was Dec 15 so I’m about where you are and there’s documentation that we can test positive for weeks or more. I am also suffering post Covid with off and on weird symptoms and I won’t be able to tell if I’m getting another variant and have to take a course of IVM again. I don’t know but these people are doing everything wrong.
They KNOW people can test positive without being contagious after Covid and that’s why they say don’t bother testing. Now, they want to do negative testing? They will say only vaccinated can still test positive and really put the screws to those who still test positive who are unvaccinated but recovered and past the 10-14 days or however days they dictate to quaratine.
read up online and FLCCC for long haulers treatment – essentially high dose IVM and special supplements
Hi Kaco, thanks for sharing. Misery lives company. But I see CDC may not have caved to Fauci’s pressure.
Didn’t that one lady, Walensky?, say that people can test positive for this virus up to 12 weeks after recovering?
Yes, she did. Now the WH will force her to circle back. It will be interesting to see how she spins it. Whatever credibility she has left will be gone.
this was my first thought upon hearing the “negative test” requirement.
so sorry it is happening to you.
it is theoretically possible, under just such conditions that you describe, that persons could test positive forever.
what then?
would guess this would depend on the test? Which test?
Who owns the company?
sh!t is getting deep
Hey. if you’re not having any symptoms, you can quit the protocol and just take the essential vitamins and minerals.
My husband is just back on Vitamin D and occasional C basically. Now he’s travelling on business so I did give him the protocol to take and he has IVM in case he needs it. He has not retested.
But are you taking the protocol until you test negative? That’s not necessary.
I’m trying to get some professional advice before I quit the IVM protocol. A colleague who is a doctor in France at a prestigious institute says everyone who tests positive should get an anti-viral (like IVM with Zinc and D3), an anti-inflammatory, and a blood thinner like aspirin to prevent blood clots.
I’m starting to wonder if everyone in America who tests positive but gets no such outpatient treatment advice could bring a class action malpractice lawsuit against their health system and the federal bureaucrat “scientists” like Fauci who advise against any treatment prehospital, and who stupidly and corruptly work to prevent such treatment. Maybe then Fauci could be cross-examined under penalty of perjury by a more thorough and competent trial lawyer than Sen. Paul, about his, his agency’s, and his researchers’ lack of experience managing outpatient infection, and their conflicts of interest.
If you find something out, let us know. But if you are way past the danger of the pulmonary phase. I had two chest x rays last week and my lungs are completely clear with no evidence of pneumonia nor Covid floating around. The pulmonologist said there was no way at this time that the virus I got on Dec 15 would rise up and bite me and go into the pulmonary stage. And Dr. W with the FLCCC doctors confirmed that prognosis. Dr. W has then prescribed a weekly maintenance dosage of IVM 18 mg (he said not based on weight) for the next 6 months. I told him I was having some what they called post covid symptoms, neuro effects. I am going to his office later this month for pulmonary exam due to the non-Covid bronchitis I had going into the Covid.
So, I could still test positive but I am not in danger of going into the pulmonary phase, confirmed by three doctors. A local pulmonologist, an ER doctor, and Dr. W, who saw all my lab results. I also had CBC (white count normal), d dimer normal, c reactive protein normal, brain neuropeptide normal, everything looks good on paper for me. But I am having some effects still, I’m not happy if viral spike protein is floating around my body wreaking havoc.
This is all “guidance”, “recommendations”, and businesses do not have to follow it. I don’t understand this.
The Federal govt actually has no authority with regard to health.
Brandons promised “Natl mask mandate, on day one” only applied to Federal property, because thats the limit of Federal authority.
CDC, NIH, and even FDA actually have no authority, hence “reccomendations” and “guidance” which the States are free to ignore.
The initial Federal Marajiuana laws were TAX regulations; $100 TAX, per ounce, hence arrests were NOT for possesion per se, but possesion without paying the TAX.
That was until they promulgated a false narrative propoganda campaign to generate fear in the populace, (demonising the “weed”) in order to generate a “clamor” (or at least enabling them to claim there was on) by the public, for the Federal govt to “DO something!”
And they did, the Federal Controlled substances act.
Passed by Congress, signed into law making Cultivation, Distribution, Sales, Possesion or consumptionbof marajiuana against Federal law.
And currently how many States have told the Feds to “stuff it”, and established a regulatory structure to allow all these activities to be “legal” within their State?
States licence Drs, Nurses, Pharmacists and Hospitals to conduct business, within their State. Health care and Public health is wholly a State authority, Feds have no authority, UNLESS the States don’t object.
Just two weeks to flatten the curve….
Bingo…I say that over and over when people try to argue with me…
I just say, “Yes, two weeks, two years ago…it’s been a long two weeks, hasn’t it?”
They never respond. They just stare at you and blink.
I also love the response I get when someone asks, “You getting the booster?” and I follow with:
“Are you getting it?”
They say- “Yes.”
I just then ask, “Do you know it doesn’t stop the spread?” The response is either “yes” or “Huh.”
I then ask, “Do you know it doesn’t stop you from getting it?” The response is either “yes” or “Huh.”
I then ask, “Do you understand it may or may not reduce symptoms because both the vaxxed and unvaxxed have the same variance in symptoms?” The response is either “yes” or “Huh.”
If they said yes to those questions, I say, “So you understand it doesn’t stop you from getting it, doesn’t stop you from spreading it, and it more than likely does nothing for symptoms. So why are you getting it?”
The answers usually range from “Well to protect others” or “I need it to travel” or “I don’t know.”
I like the “I don’t know” because that tells me they have not been assimilated yet.
Those who answer to protect others verify to me that they are completely stupid idiots. Not partial stupid..but full-blown stupid.
They vaxes do reduce hospitalization of positives by factor 20 to 60, depending on age etc.
Unless the missing hospitalization is caused by the vax giving a false positive?
These are CDC “guidelines”……since WHEN do companies follow them to their own detriment??? We sure as H*LL don’t in our business….and our employees are not “forced” to work when they are sick or otherwise….WE all use common sense –something in very short “supply” these days
Companies fearful of litigation, and companies who have noted the Dept of Labor (OSHA) standard for reporting any workplace that violates CDC guidelines. New OSHA rules put into place.
That’s why the company compliance is elevated.
How do they even “keep up” with the CDC guidelines changing daily/weekly?? So crazy……just going to keep living our life in our parallel (semi-rural) world –we’ve made our choice to limit our contact with “big city” businesses and folks 10 yrs ago—are stocked and fairly self sufficient —seeing more of our neighbors doing the same
the intentional obfuscation is sometimes hard to keep up with. Goalposts ever moving…
Now build a wood gas setup. That will power a multi kw generator.
Plenty of video tutorials, until YouTube seems them far right and political.
It’s a Chinese fire drill 24/7
Dayquil–back to work.
I historically need the 12 hour Pseudoephedrine that now requires ID every time you buy it. I have about 12 boxes of it and it is such a PIA to procure nowadays. I am getting more over the next week just because.
Kinda like therapeutics…get them while you can 😉
Don’t stockpile too much pseudo, Bro.
Many companies and public sectors in certain states discontinued paying wages while employees out due to covid. How is this gonna work if employee is out with covid not being paid and the time out may be extended until employee can produce a negative test?
The cold and flu are viruses.
This is no worse than either.
Ridiculous.
…EXCEPT for the destruction covid causes to your blood vessels. Leaking. Lung, heart, kidney.
I am not finding definitive evidence of this, only theory. Your source please.
I find evidence that the “vaccines” are damaging blood vessels, heart and brain.
To SOME people, even SOME with no comorbidities, but by no means ALL.
And I still haven’t seen anything indicating they know WHY.
Maybe you mean “…except for the covid “vaccine” destruction to blood vessels”. The actual virus does not do that.
Reasonable treatment treatment options are known, just need to be available.
Many theorize that the above concerns about the impact on the economy would largely disappear if the all federal bureaucrats would disappear for one reason or another.
This woman is FABULOUS!
Preserving Food Without (Canning) Refrigeration with Kelley Wilkinson
Dec 4, 2016
By Living Web Farms
Thanks, twolaine . You have been rocking the links!
The CDC already admitted it can take weeks to test negative, which is why, I thought, they discontinued the PCR test. Another great example of mass psychosis.
Who is paying for these billions of tests, labs, vaccines, doctor & ER visits? Has anybody done any analysis on what the cost of this fiasco is?
Expensive. Germany introduced them a while ago. Free.
They tried to stop, but public pressure forced them back. Quite efficient.
The fourth shot is going to do it. This is the one. Just four and you’ll be good to go. Really. This is the one!
https://news.yahoo.com/israeli-study-reports-fivefold-jump-163901659.html
I despise with all my being what these demonic sociopaths have done, are currently doing and clearly intend to yet do to this country.
I haven’t taken a single so called ‘covid test’ since this plandemic was launched nor shall I.
By the grace of God I work for a family owned business and have worked 6, sometimes 7 days a week this entire time.
Not a single sick day the entire time. I have not yet allowed a mask to filter my breath for even a minute. On the few occasions that some covidiot has demanded I cover my nose I’ve simply moved the thing over my nose, turned around and dropped it again.
My ‘failure to comply’ has resulted in my earning more money this last year than I’ve ever earned in my life and my employer treats me like a special treasure.
Remaining sane has proven to be a choice that I’ll never regret.
That’s great but get a supply of ivermectin in case. My region in Ohio is very high.
An elderly couple from my mother in law’s church who probably felt the same came down with Covid recently, obviously Delta because they both ended up in the hospital and she on a vent. He’s not that great and she is home on oxygen and lungs in poor shape. I asked my mother in law if they got the antibodies and I don’t know if they knew about IVM. My mother in law is vaccinated and boosted and said they didn’t get the vaccine. But they probably didn’t get early treatment either.
We ordered Survival Tabs in addition to stocking up for the last 9 months or so on groceries & other essentials.
God forbid we get to the point of having only the Survival Tabs, but we even figure we could use them as one meal/day to stretch our food if it gets to that point.
Would have liked to learn more about Vivek Murthy’s wife Alice Chen who you say has links to the CCP
Thank you, Sundance, for your warnings, which have really concerned me. I have taken them seriously and have stocked up on things over the last two months, but I still have gaps in what I might need, depending how long this will last. That is the uncertainty.
Add to all this, as if we needed any more, is that virtually all supply chsins, for just about everything, are “Just in Time” (JIT) supply chains.
The idea is than any TIME, some version of the product, from raw materials, to processed ingrediant, to packaging for the fininshed product, (cardboard packageinh, plastic bottles, etc) to the product itself, is sitting stationary, it is costing money.
So, JIT attempts to minimise this, thru integrated supply chains.
Instead if having several different suppliers for packaging the product (for example) and shifting orders between them, one is selected, and they are integrated into the JIT supply chain, so that their production schedules are established in anticipation of the demand down stream.
Put another way, at every stage, just as a production unit consumes all it has, more is delivered.
Ideally, a line worker “runs out” of a component, just as more is delivered, just as a customer takes the last can of peas, a shelf stocker rolls up a cart, with more.
THATS the ideal strived for, with JIT. And, it DOES lower costs, its more EFFICIENT, but only so long as it works, and its an inhetently more FRAGILE system, being far more vulnerable to disruption, or sudden increases OR decreases in demand.
The raw material producers, right now, are based on AI estimates of demand, 6 weeks from now. The grocery store “club cards” is a part of the AI system, that monitors end use purchases, and uses that info, in aggragate, to anticipate future demand.
So, firstly if their is any disruption, at ANY point in the supply chain, say the cardboard packaging manufaturers factory gets flooded, there is no “back up” supplier.
This brings the whole supply chain to a screaching halt, with downstream emptying out, and up stream building up with no place to go.
And the savings of JIT evaporating very quickly.
And then, there is sudden fluctuations in supply and demand. The AI systems, integrating companies production schedules, anticipating future demand based on past history, are totally bollocks upped, by a sudden increase or decrease.
Remember t.p.?THAT was an example. A sudden increase in demand, led to shortages which could not quickly be filled. And it took MONTHS for the system to recover, even AFTER the demand returned to ‘normal’.
And, profits, based in part on JIT “efficiency”, go right out the window, when the efficiency evaporates.
And the “people in charge” have no idea of the complexity of supply chains, no understanding of “whats wrong”, and no idea what it takes to fix it.
And, to a degree, there is no quick fix, once disrupted.
Humpty Dumpty CAN be put back together again, but NOT by all the kings horses and men, it mainly takes what JIT is supposed to save; it takes TIME.
LOTS of it.
Also by adding more tests, that we know are as accurate as a weatherman’s predictions it allows the con to continue by claiming cases are rising at an uncontrollable rate, which allows the justification of more lockdowns, which takes away the ability for people to go to bare-shelve shops and notice/report how bad it is. Stop testing, turn off your TVs, the con is over…
Bastards.
As far as I’m concerned, put them on high dose IVM, D3, zinc etc for 7 days treatment, whether isolated or free, followed by normal prophylactic dosing for the worst variant, and call it good.
CCP Joe is merely one in a sea of subverted officials, increasing with proximity to DC or big blue cities.
Sundance correctly mentions pet food. My cat food has doubled, tripled, and now quadrupled in the past few months–if it’s even in stock at all. My cat happens to be very attacked to Fancy Feast canned varieties which I’ve been ordering from Amazon by the case for years. I live in an apartment in Manhattan and need anything I can’t easily carry to be delivered. Commenters there are shocked about the prices.
Susan
Look into chewy’s website.
They are awesome and deliver to your door.
Been using them for years and the prices are good.
I have set up autoship for my cats food.
There is a discount and free shipping over a certain monetary amount.
http://www.chewy.com
I believe that is the correct website
Chewy is fresher than Amazon for certain foods.
I dream about the commies being set up for the fall. Place all of these incompetent diversity idiots in positions of power, let them have their way, let them show their arrogance and bring about the crash to reset things. After that these diversity icons will be forever discredited, destroyed. And just like that, the progressive movement ends. In total disgrace with police beating innocent people and all.
God does have a sense of humor and he is very much in charge. Sometimes lessons are painful. He is the God of justice.
I keep praying…
Sundance, thank you very much for the warnings, that soon we’ll have even more inflation and shortages. I’ve been heeding your warnings, and stocking up.
I thought the CDC said the tests were not valid why are they continuing?
I am hardly a prepper… but I *was* a devoted viewer of Glenn Beck… Several years back he touted a company that sold food to keep on hand for 25 years.. So, I said what the hell and purchased a 6 months supply..
My intent was to have it in case daughter’s or son’s family ever needed in the event of shortages.. So I am 10 years into the 25 year shelf life and maybe it wasn’t such a bad idea..
Why is anyone paying attention to the CDC, the FDA, the WHO? Haven’t they discredited themselves enough to be laughed off the planet? They are a bunch of egotistical, neurotic sociopaths that have been WRONG about everything. Heck, they aren’t even real doctors!
Stop listening to them, and STOP doing what they say!
Here’s some interesting information from MelK on the Flyover conservatives:
https://rumble.com/vrvjwh-mel-k-how-the-rockefellers-brainwashed-our-kids-flyover-conservatives.html
I am at Disney till Sunday with my entire family. Everything is in good supply but I am as nervous as a cat. Can’t wait to get home.
I refuse to support Disney.
But…it’s for your safety.
Holomodor
It’s a well-known fact that one can remain positive by PCR test for weeks after symptoms disappear [non-infectious virus, viral remnants, etc.]. Add that to the false positives generated though the current PCR test….
…..if they go this route, the economy will surely shut down once again. They know they can’t shut it down the way it was done the first time……so this is nothing more than a workaround for the new world order progs.
Our workaround? DO NOT, under any circumstances, get tested. It’s a respiratory virus and there are non-Rx treatments and prophylactic regimens out there (well-known to all here)….I’m just astounded at the number of sheeple rushing to get the test [guess I should not be].
If it [required negative PCR test] goes down this way, it should be met by a loud and unanimous ‘f/u’.
Holodomor on the horizon
Sundance, great analysis, and spot on. But, I want to further elaborate that this move will also be the end of mass compliance at the business level. I’m not saying it will happen overnight but a coworker and I were discussing a similar scenario yesterday (prior to announcing the test requirement- I think this accelerates what I thnk may occur).
I think the quarantine change and the fact that so many are getting tested will cause this to fall on its face. Positive tests mean workers go home. No workers no production. And, since it’s now just really the common cold- as shown already with the 1 million cases in a one-day event (I so wish I could say 1 million with a Dr. Evil voice) two days ago. As more and more workers need to take time off- production and services fall farther and farther off. Thus no one is being paid and no money is being made.
Now couple that with this proposed negative test requirement- with no tests around….well, as you point out SD…poop will hit the fan from a supply and economic standpoint.
But, I think this is what will get owners to say “F-You, employees you can come back, we need to make money” But, then that’s if they don’t bail out again.
And, yes, the big corporations won’t budge. Well, not at first but the trickle-down effect will bite theme too when people do not have money to purchase goods.
Not saying it won’t be painful but I think this may be the straw that broke the camels back.
This all reeks of desperation and will blow up in their faces. Just ignore them. The CDC is not a regulatory agency.
Force the gov’t to document the false positive rate.
Independently investigate the data underlying the whole edifice. There already are credible analytic papers demonstrating how many gov’t stats (e.g., various inflation indices) have been semantically altered in ways that completely undercut their utility as accurate measures. The same is likely going on with CDC & VAERS stats.
There has been pushback. It just hasn’t been organized.
Boy, it’s a good thing Joe Biden stole the presidency. Just imagine how bad it would be if Trump were in charge.
No, wait! We don’t have to imagine…we just need to look at how GOOD it was right before The Knucklehead took over. And as we remember, it was damn good considering Trump had just taken us through the first year of the virus and all the attendant lies by Fauci, Birx, et al.
What a mess…
Seems like the CDC is trying to prevent the negative/end test requirement. Anyone know who has more power…the CDC or Murthy?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10370121/CDC-backs-previous-advice-halve-isolations-10-five-days-says-no-test-needed.html
Asking what, for me, is an obvious question:
Isn’t it okay to contract a cold or flu? Shouldn’t the focus be to:
2. provide therapeutic treatments to enable individuals to recover from said cold or flu
What is with this ill-fated quest to prevent colds and other viruses?
What am I missing?
What would happen if everyone just ignored the CDC and stayed home when they felt sick and returned to work when they felt better? Like we have done for years with the flu! Who will enforce the “a negative test to leave isolation before ten days.”? First how will someone even know if they have C19 or a variant? Testing sites are already overwhelmed with the healthy being tested to enter schools, colleges etc, waiting 4-6 hours to get tested? ChiCom Joe promised 500 million testing kits but they won’t be available for at least more than a year! What if the CDC was just ignored? The left ignores all kinds of laws and nothing ever happens! When does the civil disobedience begin? God help us! Hosanna!
Don’t let any1 test you. Problem solved.