Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber as he was being attacked by a raging mob. Rittenhouse also fired on Gaige Grosskreutz as the attacker held a handgun toward him. Prosecutors attempted to claim that Rittenhouse was a vigilante looking for a fight; however, the defense, and all video of the events, show all shootings were justifiable self defense.
The jury is now in day two of deliberations and has sent questions about reviewing video to the trial judge. [pbs video link below fold] The judge is also expressing frustration and anger with the media’s portrayal of the events in his courtroom. Consider this thread an open discussion for events today as they take place.
Meanwhile outside the courtroom, Black Lives Matter and Antifa groups are pre-positioning riot assets and weapons ready to destroy the city if they do not get a verdict they demand.
The State is not after Kyle, they are after all of us. He is in the way, to paraphrase the greatest President ever.
Hence, my post…..
The state is part of a broader effort to eliminate the right of self-defense. Binger’s “you lost the right to self-defense when you carry a gun” was the tell.
In DC v. Heller (2008), the court held that self-defense was the reason for the Second Amendment.
But don’t think there won’t be other Binger-type prosecutors out there.
“In DC v. Heller (2008), the court held that self-defense was the reason for the Second Amendment.“
Also construed as self defense of our nation as well.
And mobs to support them in that covoluted thinking.
Binger is a criminal attorney all right. He needs to be identified as antifa too.
Binger is an attorney criminal period.
And tubby James Kraus is really Jonah Hill.
Heller wasn’t a particularly good decision. Scalia was better than the liberal justices, but also a good example of why future appointments should be of people who didn’t go to ivy league schools and are from the south or midwest. We don’t need anymore out of touch New Yorkers or DC establishment types. Scalia almost always came down on the side of government restricting individual rights, and he was careful in how he drafted Heller. Heller indicated that concealed carry could be banned and suggested that guns similar to AR-15s could be banned. Let’s hope the Supreme Court gets it right in the case it has before it now.
I agree. I have no representation on the SCOTUS. Jews and Catholics and one Episcopal convert. All ivies. Wow. Love that diversity.
The Federalist Society seems to curiously omit a lot of Protestants from its list. We, the GOP base, need to take a hard look at the next Supreme Court nominee from a GOP president and not reflexively support him/her. I saw so much cheerleading for Trump’s three appointments after they were nominated, yet it was obvious that they were progressive leaning elitists. All the signs were there to see. I doubt any of them voted for Trump. Gorsuch showed contempt for Trump during his nomination hearings. Also, his abandoning of his Catholic faith to get married, probably upon orders from his wife (in establishment GOP households, the women wear the pants) was a negative sign of his character (or lack of character). Also don’t forget some of the politicians who said how great these nominees were. Cruz in particular was outspoken, and he knew good and well these nominees were squishes. If they reach the correct outcome in a case, they’ll do so in a narrow way to try to appease the left. And on anything major, the left will prevail.
Gaige and Zim carried pistols so guess they didn’t have the right of self defense as well.
Bungee wants us to believe carrying a rifle incites violence. When carrying a rifle it projects I’m willing to defend myself.
Citizens should grab their rifles get on line, rifles horizontal and advance on BLM and Antifarta and DRIVE THEM OUT of town.
Recall McDuffie in 1980.
https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/miami-liberty-city-riot-1980/
What it doesn’t say is a large group of rioters advanced on a overpass leading to a white neighborhood. They were met by armed white residents on the far side. No shots were fired and the mob retreated back to Liberty City.
In the Progressive view, it is never the act that is of import to the law, but the actor. As in the Soviet system, one’s membership in a class is what defines whether one should be sanctioned by violence. One could call it authority but that term suggests legitimacy where none exists. This is the distinction between “rule of law,” which means neutral rules that apply equally to all, and the rule of the powerful. Hayek analyzes this distinction superbly in The Road to Serfdom. It really is the central feature of all socialism that distinguishes it from self-representative systems. In the former, some like-minded conspiracy of rulers, and their interests, is the law. This devolution is at the core of Progressive regressivism to a more primitive form of social organizations, based merely on violence rather than a concept of rights. Might makes right. I wish that people would stop confusing the issue with all this nonsense of Right versus Left; these terms have no meaning except to conceal the brutal selfishness of mankind’s evil nature as expressed in the aggression called socialism.
The jury is not passing only on the guilt or innocence of Kyle, but also on whether we have the stones to assert human rights in the face of the savage brutal face of the mob. One hopes they will not dodge that important moral obligation.
Remembering the WDC riots. The mobs never went west of 16th street. That’s NW DC and there has never been a riot over there.
The eternal attacks on our 2nd Amendment rights are especially heated here because Kyle took out a couple of the left’s new brown shirts. DemonRats, law enforcement, and every one of the weaponized agencies protect these maggots, with some even claiming that they are a myth. If they allow one person– whom they immediately labeled a white supremacist, and “Trumpist,” to protect himself, might they fear that others will start standing up? The fuse is lit, and it will blow, sooner or later.
Like Superman–as stated with each episode of the 1950s TV Show, Kyle stands for truth, justice, and the American way.
Yes, he does! and by the time his lawyers are though with the lawsuits, he will be a very wealthy young man. May all the slandering pos bleed from their eyes!
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Remember when PDJT said “the only standing between you (Heritage America) and the Totalitarian lunatic Soviet-Democrats is himself”
Look out for strategically placed U-Haul trucks in the area.
And bricks, concrete chips, cement filled water bottles
“…riot assets and weapons”, as Sundance wrote.
I will never get used to things such as this: visible implements of destruction at the ready– ALLOWED by local police and deployed National Guard units.
All should be confiscated and swept clean. Assembled rabblerousers should be dispersed and forced away from courthouse.
Position manure guns that farmers use, in readiness to cream any rioting that begins.
My manure pit is full, 1.4 million gallons at your disposal, help yourself it’s on me.
it would be fun to watch!!!
I am thinking of that scene from “Back To The Future” when the manure truck dumps its contents on Biff and his pals in the convertible (after the unsuccessful attempt to terrorize Marty McFly on his skateboard)
Manure guns!!!! The Ranchers need to get involved!
Israeli’s have a stink weapon, the stuff is supposed to linger for days if you get sprayed w/it.
Bullets are more effective.
And pallets of bricks left where there are no construction projects.
How about mystical piles of Stonehenge rocks, bricks and cement blocks suddenly appearing at strategic places?
…and the ambiguous white Mercedes rental vans. If you see ANY of those with brown men/women of military age, as drivers, PLEASE call your local constabulary. You my save lives.
Brown men/women or white unwashed men/women with unkept beards.
Don’t forget gender confused blobs dressed in black
And, the beards apply to both the white men and women just to be clear.
And crazy eyes.
One can monitor Kenosha County Public Safety for reports/action on riot materials and personnel, presuming they haven’t prior gone to tactical channels to obscure it.
Nick Sandmann to Kyle Rittenhouse: ‘I Am Here for You’
The corrupt liberal media came for me, just like they came for Kyle Rittenhouse, and if he decides to sue I say go for it and hold the media accountable: NICHOLAS SANDMANNBy NICHOLAS SANDMANN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 13:48 EST, 16 November 2021 | UPDATED: 17:
WHY are not Patriots “pre-positioning” in “nests” @ 300 yards to “neutralize” BLM and their federal overseers?
NOTHING will change until the demonrats start to feel a “pinch”.
Because FBI agents will be everywhere! Ready to arrest people like Kyle. I saw 5 white males with cut off blue Jean shirts, crew cuts, and black sunglasses boarding a plane to Kenosha earlier!
Surround with larger force with bullhorns, airhorns, and chant FIBIE! FIBBIE! FIBBIE! as you keep walking and escort them away from the area toward the police line. They are instigating an insurrection–accessories at least, if not active participants. See what local yokels want to do with them.
This plan involves no guns or knives or truncheons, just a lot of fed-up locals with air horns (like you take to ball games) and bull horns and a willingness to surround suspected instigator FIBBIES and call them out.
Also, if you have a licensed drone operator in the area with any type of night vision FLIR etc., ask if they would be willing to overfly and record the action. We can have our own 4k video of the misbehavior of the FIBBIEs and their ultra left wing militia allies. I would suggest saving it to a remote hard drive (not cloud) and streaming. Get them with their own tactics. Oh, and in the crowd? Everyone who doesn’t have a bullhorn or an airhorn, get your phone out and film–obviously and obnoxiously film.
Not just film but live stream (it’s saved on your phone too) it on youtube, facebook, etc. Well, live steam until they block your feed.
I mentioned that third line from bottom “(not cloud) and streaming.”
Absolutely. Crush them with their own tactics. I would love to be there to help organize and get ‘er done. My best wishes to the local Patriots.
Missed that Gar, my apologies.
No prob. Great minds and all that.
The problem is the corrupt prosecutors. It should be clear now that for every honest prosecutor there are a dozen criminals like Binger.
We have millions of terrabytes of incriminating video of the riots last summer, showing antifa brownshirts terrorizing communities. Many of these people have been identified and sent to local police. But it doesn’t matter if the local and state DAs won’t bring charges.
The whole point is the Brownshirts do the dirty work of political violence, while your political party can keep their hands clean. This is how totalitarianism often operates, and it is the reason why antifa and BLM are so carefully protected by the State.
The problem is the MEDIA
Apparently, Soros has spent tens of millions supporting state prosecutor elections.
not cutoffs, jorts. they buy them at stores. they would not be so crude as to make them out of their old jeans like deplorables
Touche Samwise163, haha
Yeah Kenosha will be crawling with Feds.
They probably have some human trafficking and election rigging to do as a side mission as they wait for the jury to mistrial.
Ya know, that wouldn’t surprise me.
feel an “
pinch” AZZ Kickin.There I fixed it for you.
I am assuming you are posting from there?
Wording and legally couched position is everything distinguishing between concerned citizens here, and glowie provocateurs.
Nests do not have to be gun emplacements (somebody mentioned manure canons). I actually read it ‘nets’ at first and thought, now that is genius. Use a forklift to pick the pallets up, slip a heavy duty net like they use to unload and load ships under it, attach the line from the net to a cherry picker and when the thugs come for their bricks, raise the cherry picker and up go the bricks, out of reach. All of the wannabe street thugs have been filmed in the act of attempting to access the bricks, shouting and screaming destruction. Surround the little lovelies and citizens arrest them until LEOs arrive. One and done.
The FIB had a bunch of drones in the air the night of the Kenosha riots. The videos from these drones is crystal clear. The maggots have been monitoring peoples’ movement, phones, and frankly every aspect of our lives for quite a while.
Maybe some patriots are doing that.
Because it’s easier to case people, follow them home, and surprise them in their sleep?
I saw it in a movie, just guessing.
Re-posting my comment in the proper thread –
Defense asked the judge this morning to declare a mistrial with prejudice after learning prosecutors withheld the higher resolution video from them. The judge has yet to rule on that motion. In my view that would be an opportunity for the judge to put an end to this farce, let the jury come back but then set aside their verdict with a mistrial with prejudice delcaration. Everyone goes home happy (except lunchbox and his pal).
According to Branca at Legal Insurrection, the jury has asked to view some videos. Defense argued that the failure to turn over the high resolution video in a timely manner as Brady material was another reason for directed verdict with prejudice.
Either that or ample ammunition for an appeal if he is in fact convicted of anything. Prosecutorial misconduct.
True, but the Left would still scream, “The jury found him guilty! Released on a technicality!”
Brady isn’t a technicality, but a constitutional right, but that distinction would be lost in the lefty noise.
Wethal, you are right, but ultimately, you can never satisfy the mob. Their goal posts are on a swivel.
Paraphrasing: Posobiec reported this am that he was told that 2 jurors were holding out due to fear of personal attacks by mob.
So, that would seem to document jury intimidation. Is that not another reason for mistrial which would also shine a light on the mob?
Delay is the deadliest form of denial.
Free Kyle now.
It is a treason wracked system, literally against all the good and decent people.
They want to view that very video the prosecution used at the last minute the was withheld from the defense.
Agreed but it would take a lot of courage on the part of the Judge. It would though be the RIGHT thing to do.
This is really easy for the judge. He can 100% blame the persecutors who at bottom everyone hates.
I think that he should only do that if he has to by virtue of the facts of the case. An honest man would be tempted to declare the mistrial and act as the lightning rod for the idiot backlash, thus sparing the jury members, however…this creates conditions to claim that the case was rigged. Seems far more desirable to have the jury of peers make the call. The danger there is they may be intimidated. Seems true that if we as a people are too chickens*t to have necessary courage, then we will have the miserable lives of cowards. Now is a time when doing the right thing matters more than anything else, even one’s life. I hope they get that.
Jury nullification seems to be a serious issue, no matter how it’s achieved.
Absolutely, since that is the basis of “misinterpretation” for “provocation”.
Fudged on top of late, weak and misleading.
They say Kyle Rittenhouse is on trial. In my eyes, they are on trial.
Blacks do not care about this guy It is white folks that are enraged with this punk.
White folks donate. Easy money for hustlers.
-Activist created bogus BLM charity, used money to buy new home, guns: FBI
https://nypost.com/2020/09/27/activist-made-fake-blm-charity-used-money-to-buy-home-guns-fbi/
If the rioters want to burn the city again, I hope the good people of Kenosha learn to shoot to kill in earnest and then tell any antifa criminal city officials to f’off, or else…
Ultimately that is what it is going to take to stop this BS. Amazed it has not happened yet.
Exactly! It’s THEIR town and THEY need to be doing something about it!!
I just read on the Presidential Politics Thread that the prosecution sandbagged the HD video to the Defense!! WTF is happening here??
It won’t happen because the Governor is a limp-wristed Democrat wuss, but any ensuing leftist mob riots should be put down with EXTREME PREJUDICE.
The left is out of control and won’t stop until they’re stopped. . . this would be a good opportunity.
My parents lived in Wisconsin for the last 23 years. Outside of Milwaukee and Madison Wisconsin is a red, conservative, farming fishing and hunting state. It’s a shame they keep electing Dhimmies for Gov.
They use Dominion voting machines in Wisconsin?
Vote fraud in Dane (Madison) and Milwaukee Counties.
Bingo.
I suspect fraud in election for Evers.
He is an empty suit.
We didn’t elect Evers for governor… the ‘2020-style’ election fraud was rampant in our governor race in 2018 as well. Milwaukee “found votes” at 3am to just barely push him over the top.
Must have been a beta test site for the nationwide 2020 fraud.
Leave your parent’s basement.
Most GOP governors are even more limp wristed unfortunately. I recall that during the riots last summer, the national GOP was basically apologizing to the left and saying please oh please, we aren’t racist, we’re trying to make it easier to sue police officers and make June 16th a federal holiday. It was pathetic. Senators Braun and Lankford were particularly disgusting and hopefully will be primaried the next time they run.
I hope the jury shows at least a fraction of the courage that red blooded young American showed that night.
Kenosha shop owners need to take a page out of the Los Angeles Koreans who made theirs intentions known by arming and standing guard at their place of business. The rioters will move along and go to the woke big box stores.
Loved the Roof Koreans!
I have read posts elsewhere from Army infantry veterans who are in awe of Kyle’s performance that night. Three shots, three hits, two KIA, all while running for his life, being attacked with a skateboard and having to fire his weapon while on his back. Amazing performance particularly from a 17 year old kid. Kyle should be getting a medal not a jail sentence.
I saw that earlier. Well played BB.
Most amazing gun control one could hope for in such a situation.
As if an angel was protecting Kyle. ?
Let’s hope that protection is still in place when the jury returns a verdict.
Reminds me of the old Superman.
I agree 100%. I am a combat Vet and can attest to Kyle Rittenhouse’s extreme discipline in that chaotic situation. Not sure who taught him that discipline but it definitely saved his life that night.
“Three shots, three hits…”
Wrong. He fired at “jumpman” and missed–not sure how many shots.
IIRC, testimony said two shots at the kickboxer trying to “cranium” Kyle.
There needs to be some local Army veterans standing on the courthouse steps facing down the BLM/Antifa “protesters”.
Took out the trash, as they say…
They’re coming no matter what the verdict is. In fact, they’re already there. Stand by to stand by.
Just another peaceful protest.
I wonder what the going rate of pay is to be a dumpster burner?
This kid should get exactly what the coup plotters got- nothing.
Sooo. BLM and Antifarta are protesting a white guy defending himself from 3 white guys.
Are they saying All Lives Matter?
So confused ?
The 3 white dudes were protesting in memory of a black, vicious, career criminal’s death.
Yet BLM AND ANTIFARTA didn’t protest whities getting shot after they were killed and wounded.
They don’t protest black on black murder in Chicago cause…that’s a cultural thing…
They were trans-black.
They are protesting because kyle took out 3 of their own. Just like with cops, no one has a right to kill them, no matter what they do.
Nice to see a Palestinian flag among the throng of idiots outside the courthouse.
Good to see intersectionality In action.
Know thy enemy.
Bill Barr killed the rule of law in America. This will just confirm that we are finished as a free nation.
FJB.
Why isn’t Garland condemning these BLM and antifa terrorists? /s
Let them burn down Kenosha. I mean, really, jurors have seen this play out many times since Messiah Obama started the race war.
They did it here in Richmond Virginia summer 2020 with the full support of the mayor and Blackface Northam. With destruction of the beautiful historic Monument Avenue and the filthy graffiti lining the city’s streets, it’s a monument to Satan now.
It will be rebuilt. The pendelum will swing back.
Jurors should follow the law and acquit. The govt’s brownshirts will eventually move on to the next case.
Garland is too busy with PTA meetings, O’Keefe, and Bannon to go after BLM and Antifa
Richmond is a cesspool. I hope Youngkin will clean the place up. Time will tell, what was done to the statues in Cville and Richmond makes me furious and sad at the same time.
Based on comments yesterday it came across that they all but two were in agreement. The two not in the agreement were not necessarily not agreeing with a decision but were not giving their vote due to fear.
This trial highlights how our justice system is not just but rather a tool for the tyrants to control people.
“Just us” system.
Fixed it for you.
The Jack Posobiec’s tweet credited a US marshal for that bit.
This is a state trial in a state courthouse, and it’s hard to see what a federal marshal would be doing there, or how that person would get info, unless someone on the jury leaked it to him. Security around a deliberating jury is tight, and any court employee who’s leaking might be out of a job and in trouble.
Debunked.
https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/11/17/about-those-claims-that-a-u-s-marshal-said-two-rittenhouse-jurors-are-holding-up-verdict-due-to-backlash-doxxing-fears-n477072
US Marshall’s don’t get involved in state crime trial.
Marshals from Portland were in Kenosha for the original riots and no doubt eastern district Marshals are on-site or on-call like the National Guard which has mustered outside the city.
One scenario is the leak is purposeful and the leakers are protected by the Communists. Who’s in charge of the Federal Marshal’s Service?
Who would a mistrial benefit? Who continues at risk for the next however long it takes to put together a new trial? This one took over a year.
The process is the punishment and Kyle continues to pay that price every day. Would Kyle’s bail continue if a mistrial is called? That’s a good question. The state already tried to revoke/increase his bail from the 2 million in the past. Think they’ll miss any opportunity to get him behind bars? I don’t.
Anyway, suspcious cat remains suspicious of *any* human in government. Communists are everywhere. They walk among us.
With the criminal record of “jump kick man” partially coming to surface now, we can clearly see the high % career criminal composition of antifa exposed and on the record by the Kyle RIttenhouse persecution.
Kyle was an intended victim that failed to cooperate and die.
I don’t think they knew he was a 17 year old boy, either. That has made a lot of normies go “Hey, wait….a kid? Nah, man. Nah. That was grown-azz men going for a boy. That’s not a good look.”
There was some question about another guy wearing a green shirt, that the protesters confused him w/Kyle. There is video of him. They do look similar if you are in the dark in a chaotic situation. I didn’t buy the notion.
What I saw was Kyle shooting the first guy in self-defense, and that an entire mob decided to after an “active shooter”, which I call BS on. People do not chase active shooters down an open wide street w/a hand gun and skateboard. Kyle was the one they were after. It was like he was their prey.
Kyle also did a circle back to offer aid to the person he shot, but saw someone else attending him, headed out to go to the cops to report it, and then had to run because the mob was after him. And yet the stinking jury wants the fuzzy video??? That makes no sense to me because there is so much video showing what went down.
What a FUBAR night for Kyle.
Jump kick man is another piece of trash criminal named Maurice James Freeland from Kenosha. He’s been in jail and released on a different crime since kicking Kyle. Strange that trash hasn’t been charged with assault
And think about how different this would be if Kyle was murdered as intended by the child rapist and his buds. Just sit back and think about it.
I think:
No true. Recall the ambush murder in Portland.
State troopers hunted that bastard into a grave.
If crazed pedo felon Rosenbaum had got Kyle’s AR, we likely would have had a mass shooting and a big gun grab from China Joe.
Kyle’s lawyers could introduce that fact to support Kyle’s right – no, his duty – to use deadly force to stop commission of a violent felony by AntiFa thugs.
National Guard vs the FBI supported ANTIFA/BLM thugs. I predict the National Guard will do nothing and let the city burn again!
They will follow orders. If they are told to stand down, ID that and go after them. The National Guard are a bunch of people. Look at decision makers.
National Guard is 50 miles away. It would take them over an hour to get there
It has been reported that the National Guard is staging at an area 60 miles away from Kenosha. Meaning that it could be between an hour and an hour and half before they would arrive….
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=287499963383328&set=a.259553522844639&__cft__%5B0%5D=AZUVzC2ek2-sipXNXS2ThfMDiEhs6JPDkcSBT0vVTDhs1oXDWEbiG-tCGeC9JfcymdFmnMs4mY_VqABLNggMfXYE35BmwHtPI0EnGOCWJ1mnou34rhKgtJd7FJ3977iImS_iS_62qj4Bfty1I0SGYkJI&__tn__=EH-R
Question about mistrial: If “not guilty” verdict absent via mistrial; will that have bearing on future media lawsuits filed by Rittenhouse? Can media stand by initial libelous reporting without conclusive jury rulings?
It would be good to have a not guilty verdict, but Kyle could still proceed against media with the argument that no evidence of white supremacy came out at trial.
Thanks Wethal. That makes sense. I guess Kyle taking the stand was a brilliant move after all. Not only did he do incredibly well, he was willing to go under oath when doing so. That should have some weight against any media not willing to back down from previous claims. I really admire this young man.
But if convicted to any of it and serves jail time, he cannot sue the media? Correct?
That fact that it has gone on more than a day suggests there’s something to talk about and to disagree about. Expect a hung jury.
The ordeal for Kyle would drag on, but in a second trial (if there was one), the better video the prosecution didn’t turn over to defense could come in, and that might sink the “provocation” argument.
And the district attorney might/should replace Binger and Kraus.
They would never try for a second trial. Rather, I think they would try to get Kyle to plea to lesser charges. And, if not, it dies in court but gains new life in the media and on the streets.
WE ARE GOING TO SHOOT TO KILL…. DONT COME HERE..
THAT WOULD BE MY STATEMENT…
young mr. rittenhouse –
there are many many more of us pulling for you than you can possibly know
thoughts and prayers
’Merica
Media has also been amping up threat of “potential riots” like it’s an invitation. They want destruction. No doubt.
AT least it appear this jury is doing thier job and not just decided to rush
a verdict so they can go home.. They seem to be looking at lots of things
to make their decision or come to a hung jury.
If it goes to hung jury can the judge then declare a mistrial.
The judge can rule on the motion for a mistrial at anytime.
Yep, even after the jury has returned a verdict. When it was discussed first thing this morning he stated he hadn’t read the whole motion yet. He can also enter a JNOV, judgement notwithstanding of verdict.
Listening to the current bruhaha going on in court about the videos, my take is he’s bending in favor of seeing the jury process through.
If it goes to a hung jury it’s because those who fail to acquit are compromised- either via fear or they are blind. Anyone who has seen the footage can not claim it was anything other than self-defense. The prosecution’s own witness admitting that Kyle fired in self-defense also makes it hard not to acquit.
But…it is 2021 and FJB is in the WH.
I am not sure how anyone could sit through the trial and still have questions of whether he is guilty or not, but that is just me. As someone commented, there are most likely people on that jury that come hell or high water they will vote he is guilty. And I imagine a few are dumber than a box of rocks.
I’m sort of worried that Dropbox itself may have re-encoded the video, they mention on the transcript here that it came from there:
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/rittenhouse-verdict-watch-mistrial-with-prejudice/
The info on Dropbox may be found here:
https://experience.dropbox.com/resources/how-to-compress-videos
This wouldn’t be an issue, though, if:
A) They provided this sooner than the last second.
B) They provided file size and cryptographic hashes, as the government normally requires for any files provided to it.
True. Dropbox does lower the video quality
Simple, straightforward, and with plain language. Hence, no progressive will understand and SJWs will cry.
This is the latest update from Branca at Legal Insurrection:
11:05 a.m.: Jury sends notice to court saying they want to view some of the videos. Defense concerned about the drone video. Also complaining about when received drone video. Also, defense attorney Richards tells court that the manual for AMP imaging software apparently says methods used in this case are intended for investigative purposes only, not for forensic use in court. When Judge Schroeder asks Binger if that’s true, Binger response is that information is not in evidence.
Motion to dismiss with prejudice….12h ago
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Since the jury is deliberating already I do not think the judge will rule on this motion. If the jury exonerates Rittenhouse that is better for Kyle–that’s a factual finding of self-defense and absolves him or murder. If jury hangs or convicts on anything, judge should dismiss.
Lawyer Barnes say there are 4 “bad” Jurors
Do you have a link, please?
I saw it on ACE.. Barnes is live blogging
Thanks.
Robert is on Rekieta’s stream right now commenting… watch away from Youtube at alt-tech here on Odysee:
https://odysee.com/@RekietaLaw:a/LIVE:6dd
Wethal..Rieketa Law is livestreaming a legal panel and Barnes made the comment during the livestream and Barnes made the comment during the livestream… RieketaLaw’s livestream is available at youtube. :0)
The Junta did not allow Trump’s re-election, and has gotten away with it 100% scot-free (thanks, GOP!).
Why in the world would they allow a fair verdict here?
Doesn’t anyone understand that there is NO rule of law anymore?
The country waits with bated breath. Soap box, mail box, ballot box, jury…
Even a vigilante, which Rittenhouse is not, is entitled to defend himself against armed attackers.
This jury would have trouble figuring out what 2 plus 2 is.
I would love to see what they look like. I know you aren’t supposed to judge a book by its cover, but ya know, it matters.
https://rumble.com/vpc1o1-joe-rogan-on-rittenhouse-and-left-wing-media-cult.html
Mainstream will not tell you that these people were already convicted criminals–one a pedophile! Meanwhile Rittenhouse is chastised. Notice they put the Nat’l guard 1.5 hours away. Utter mayham will take place.
You can always count on the FBI’ bully boys and girls BLM and Antifa to show up and terrorize. Praying for Kyle.
Completely unrelated news from Alex Berenson , OSHA has released a statement saying they will not be enforcing Bi den’s man date per court order!!! Here’s the link https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/ets2
WE ARE ALL KYLE RITTENHOUSE
That is what should be trending:
#weallarekylerittenhouse
That’s why over 100,000 people have been watching a private lawyer panel live stream on the trial, plus all those watching the MSM streams. Important for all of us who consider freedom and liberty and personal determination as essential to life.
That is the TRUTH.
Will this end up like the OJ criminal trial where he was found innocent but later sued and lost in civil court?
What, the illegally armed rioter trying to kill a fleeing kid,
Gaige Grosskreutz the liberal klutz ?
hahahaahhahahaahaha
That guy is more likely to collect a liberal Darwin award than $10m.
Violent criminal Gruber is now a good guber; Rosenbaum was beyond long overdue.
No jury award potential there.
this is not a good sign that it’s going on for so long. This should’ve been a 10 minute acquittal.
I only hope the hold outs hold out for acquittal.
Next, fist fight in the jury room..
The longer it goes on, IMO the more likely to end in a mistrial. Given the rest of the shtshow, mistrial of some sort is coming. The advocacy of the defense this morning sure seems limp wristed. Sad.
They don’t seem to have much passion for their defendant.
if Kyle is convicted on any charges, everybody should just go out in the streets and start turning over cars setting them on fire burning down businesses and looting. These are all acceptable forms of protest in Kenosha. Nobody will be prosecuted for anything. /sarc
Everything we are currently seeing, whether covid, climate change, etc., is all connected. The purpose of the Rittenhouse trial is to begin to make headway into disarming Americans. Take a look at what is happening in Australia. Currently, the reason why this doesn’t happen in the US, is because the population is armed. This trial has nothing to do with ‘racism’, and everything to do with gun control. And as BLM and Antifa are little more than puppets for the ‘rulers’, they are out there, following the orders that, amusingly, WHITE men are giving them.
Exactly correct.
The standard self-defense argument in GA says one may employ deadly force if one fears for one’s life and/or if needed to stop commission of a violent felony. Fits this case to the proverbial T.
I truly hope this young man gets some good news today. I wish I were on that jury.
Me, too, BV. I see my son in that young man. A good, solid, Patriotic kid who loves his community and seeks to serve.
God Our Father:
In your infinite mercy and care for your fallen creatures, please bless Kyle Rittenhouse and his family and give them strength for this time. Father God, I humbly pray that if it be Your will, please lead the jury to find courage and see truth and unanimously agree that Kyle is “NOT GUILTY” on all counts.
I further ask you, Dear Father, to protect the people serving on the jury and the judge and defense team from all harm. I pray that you defend the faithful and succor the innocent. Lord God, we look to you in our need. We seek Your Will and Your Blessing for the people Kenosha, WI, who are now faced with outsiders who have promised to destroy their city and deprive them of their livelihoods, liberty, and security.
Dear Lord God, we also ask that you heal our nation and cleanse us from the great sin of abortion and all the sins that flow from that abomination. Lead this nation to true repentance and create in us all a clean heart, we pray, Dear Father. Please give us the wisdom as your followers to know how to defeat the scourges of atheism and Communism that have completely polluted every level of endeavor in our social and political lives. We are weak and foolish creatures in need of great wisdom which You promised to give to us if we ask. We are asking for that wisdom that You alone can give to us.
In the Holy Name above all names, the Name of Jesus Christ, Lord of Lords and King of Kings, Amen.
I just made this rant on yesterday’s thread.
This judge has proved his vanity and ineptitude. He spent about 5 mins this morning whining about the coverage he’s getting in the Milwaukee Sentinel. Threatened not to televise trial anymore because he doesn’t like what the local paper says about him.
MEANWHILE – what was actually before him for consideration, was a renewed objection over the drone footage, as the jury just this morning requested to review video (we don’t know what they asked to see). The defense highlighted was has just been revealed in their motion to dismiss — the prosecution WITHHELD their own clear, HD video footage, and gave the defense a “compressed” version that was shorter and blurry.
While that alone is grounds for mistrial with prejudice, its gets worse. Let’s review: the state sandbagged the defense with “new” drone footage near the end of the trial; they also introduced a derivative, AI-enhanced “zoom-in” of that footage which everyone has argued about, because that derivative was so blurry, the prosecution used it to make a claim about Kyle pointing his gun that is BELIED by all other evidence, INCLUDING as it turns out the clear HD footage that only the state had.
Is this making sense? The state needed a blurry blob onto which it could project it’s false allegation; so it too clear footage, muddied it up and zoomed in with tech. But it would be pretty obvious what they did if the defense and judge had the clear footage — so they handed over crappy footage. That way, the blurry blob the created looked like a more “good faith” effort to zoom in on already-blurry footage.
If it’s confusing, it’s supposed to be. And they got away with it. The defense only found out because on Friday, AFTER EVIDENCE and during jury instructions, they prosecution got their own CLEAR FOOTAGE in a panic to make a point to the judge. So on Monday, the defense, now knowing about this HUGE evidence misconduct, included it in its motion to dismiss.
A motion to dismiss that the judge told us this morning he hasn’t read and is “taking on advisement.” Meanwhile, the judge whined about the local paper is mildly criticizing him .
This judge is clueless. He has made grievous errors. Robert Barnes thinks he’s expecting acquittal and this all goes away. He has NO IDEA.
A minor blasted a convicted pedofile. No problem there. Justice done for the children Rosenbaum messed with.
As for Kyle’s PTSD break on the witness stand, kid probably realized not only would Rosenbaum have killed him, but might well have analized his young tender corpse on national TV while the antifas partied and laughed.
it may be obvious to state here, but . . . .
If we value the “rule of law”, the glue that holds our special government ideals together, then, we as concerned citizens who love what America has built, we MUST take our civic duty as juries to stand up and decide the EVIDENCE presented.
As a lawyer with much trial experience (Civil Trials—I am just a spectator for criminal proceedings), I have seen a great decline in jury attitudes over 35 years about their duty to hear, evaluate, and decide no matter what the consequences may be. Jury and Judge intimidation is a crime, but the Social Media is largely anonymous, so its very hard to prove later. The threats, and the building mobs outside don’t help either.
Even the socialist cries for “democracy”. He wants the people to have the power (blind to the real aim of socialist handlers). So, why then, doesn’t the socialist, anarchist, hoodlum let the “people” decide the fate of Kyle Rittenhouse on the evidence? Because they really don’t want rule of law of democratic fairness.
I urge those reading this to think deeply about any occasion when you might be called to hear evidence and to decide the fates of disputing parties, to remember the Bill of Rights, to remember that this is one of a handful of nations that entrust justice into the hands of 12 “peers”. You must find the courage to do that sacred job, to not complain when the jury notice comes, to not give 1000 lame excuses why you should be excused (I heard one juror complain that a raging hangnail wouldn’t allow him the ability to listen to evidence), and to recognize that there are some thinks in life that are more important than the potential threats (or even harm) from hoodlums with skateboards and firebombs.
The biggest complaint I hear about people serving is how you have to check every morning to find out if you are being called in. People like structure, they like to know what they have to do for the day, they have commitments. I agree w/everything you said, just commenting on the excuses I have heard. Once you have been selected and know you have to go in every morning until its over isn’t so bad, as long as it is a brief trial, but it the rest of the time feeling yanked around and the not knowing is what peeves people.
I understand that the identity of “Jump-Kick Man” has always been know to the prosecution. From what I’m hearing, “Jump-Kick Man” is facing his own charges and wanted immunity if he were to testify against Kyle. However, I also understand that at the beginning of the trial the prosecution warranted to the court that “Jump-Kick Man” was “unidentified” and “unidentifiable”. Yet another example of this prosecution violating the rules of evidence and misleading the court.
It’s being reported (origin unknown) that the perp being commonly referred to as “Drop Kick Man” is and has been known to the Kenosha County Prosecutor’s Office for quite some time. I believe that this is part of the Mistrial With Prejudice filed earlier by the defense.
Also, withholding the higher resolution FBI video is very problematic.
My point is this, if this office is willing to cheat and withhold evidence in a capital murder case, it taints every other case they have tried.
If they would take away this defendant’s right to a fair trial, they would do this to anybody.
In just the last exchange regarding the drone video file(s), the defense paralegal pretty much proved the prosecutor to be a liar. Hopefully the judge is just waiting to see if the jury will come back not guilty on all charges before he declares a mistrial with prejudice ending this farce.
The mob is hijacking our justice system.
If their anger controls the outcome, we have no justice system
This exactly!