Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber as he was being attacked by a raging mob. Rittenhouse, also fired on Gaige Grosskreutz as the attacker held a handgun toward him. Prosecutors claim that Rittenhouse was a vigilante looking for a fight. The defense, and all video of the events, show all shootings were justifiable self defense.
The trial continues today with the defense putting on its case. PBS Livestream Link
I thought there was a vacation today from the trial because of Veterans Day ?
So did I, but the judge can hold court when he wants. He mentioned a Saturday session yesterday.
If the Jury wanted off for V day I am certain he would respect their right. The jury wants to get this case and make their decision. They don’t want to lolly gag around the courthouse longer than needed ??
He probably gave the jury the option to do either way!
Not all states close things on Vet Day.
Huber redux lol. Someone with a sense of humor is running this simulation.
the place to watch is here:
they have several lawyers commenting..
super good and funny comments.
Rekieta Law
The rolling live commentary is like Mystery Science Theater 3000………lol…..
i loved that show!
I hated watching this channel. Big mouths going on and on. This is the channel yesterday that was freaking out when they called Kyle, then 5 minutes latter didn’t understand why the judge was going over Kyle’s rights with him. They are annoying as well talking all the time when important questions are asked.
Yeah. Too much chatter. Not everything needs a hot take or a comment. This trial has provided a lot of highlights but most trial procedure and testimony is boring and straightforward.
This is great, thanks!
Since I just noticed this article, I was going to post the same link. Hearing multiple lawyers react in real-time is interesting.
Binger knows he’s in trouble when he decided to continue with the video guy and he is very focused on how the video is enhanced as if it changes what happened on the video. This Binger is a moron…yes, Binger, if you adjust the contrast too much it may alter who actually did what in the video….
How did Binger make it through law school?
The defense attorney only needs to ask, in follow up “When you adjust contrast does it make a gun appear if it wasn’t’ there in real life?”
If you want some expert, and occasionally witty, commentary to the trial, go to defense attorney Anthony Branca’s twitter feed (also being posted on Legal Insurrection).
Branca has followed the proceedings from the pre-trial stage, knows the judge’s prior rulings, and can put things in context. He also rips the incompetent, flailing prosecutor apart now and then.
Branca wrote the book The Law of Self-Defense.
Tweets by LawSelfDefense
Andrew Braca
https://legalinsurrection.com/author/law-of-self-defense/
The prosecutor kind of knows he’s going to lose, so he is auditioning for MSNBC.
Yeah, but he’d have to indict President Trump to get the MSNBC job!
Wethal, with Twitter censoring conservatives the way they do why would I want to go to anyone’s Twitter feed? the sooner you wean yourself from that unAmerican platform the better
Twitter is the one of America! Facistbook too…in case you weren’t aware. Have a great day.
Was Rosenbaum being steered by the FBI, like the Muslim terrorists at the infamous Garland TX shooting were? That FBI drone following may be the clue as well as Rosenbaum’s membership in the “People’s Revolution” group
Three victims of Kenosha riot shootings identified, including volunteer medic
https://nypost.com/2020/08/27/3-victims-shot-in-kenosha-riots-have-been-identified/
Looks that way! The FBI has eyes and ears on every ANTIFA and BLM operation probably because they have operatives all over the riots and some of them are leaders. You had three felons in possession of handguns which is a federal 10 year crime just in itself rioting and committing arson then shooting at while chasing a 17 year kid. In obvious self defense the kid kills two and wounds one…and he’s arrested? If you had three armed felons chasing you according to the Wisconsin DA…you don’t have the right to defend yourself even after one of them promised he’d F-ing kill you!
It’s Operation Northwoods all over again.
Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against American citizens that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to both stage and actually commit acts of terrorism against American military and civilian targets inside the United States.
..and JFK….shut it down…….
The FBI and DOJ are criminal organizations obeying people who are not receiving a government paycheck.
It’s worse than that. The prosecutor implies that you have no right to self-defense, even though you were already attacked with a skateboard (classified as a non-life-threatening fly swatter), you aren’t allowed to defend yourself UNTIL YOU HAVE BEEN SHOT. And then probably ONLY if you cannot run away to escape further gun shots.
Also new: your Fifth Amendment right to not incriminate yourself will be gone based on tge prosecutor theory that whatever you say or don’t say or even wear may be used against you at trial.
After being shut down by the judge re commenting that Rittenhouse had been silent & not talking to anyone about what happened after tge event, the prosecutor attempted to introduce evidence re the t-shirt Rittenhouse was wearing the day he got out of jail as being indicative of his lack of remorse about what he had done.
IF ONLY THE HYPOCRISY, THE ATTACKS ON US AND THE ATTACKS ON THE CONSTITUTION WOULD STOP!!!
I wish the camcorder witness (I did like him as he took no bull from the DA), had said, “I use the word ‘rioters’ because that’s what I saw causing violence–people throwing concrete at people and property, people using bats and all manner of items to destroy cars on car lots, people staring fires in cop cars, in dumpsters, people chasing Rittenhouse, etc.
“I didn’t call them ‘protestors’ because I witnessed not one sign that might have protested a policy. I witnessed no person at a microphone or with a megaphone who spoke to the crowd about a policy or issue. As a commentator and a reporter, I choose my words carefully. There I witnessed police. I witnessed rioters. I witnessed observors, people who were there but who simply seemed to be watching events.
“So, Mr. Binger, yes, I was covering, in particular, the behavior of RIOTERs>”
That skateboard may as well have been a tommahawk.
That’a funny because auntiFA calls a skateboard a “TonyHawk” a pun based on the famous skateboarder…
The entire purpose of this trial is to call into question our right to self defense. They will either imprison you or bankrupt you if you defend yourself.
Yes, and it is tied to future activities by Antifa/BLM, the brown shirts for the Deep State, to scare off anyone from defending themselves and their property should they come to burn down your business, house, etc. and physically attack you, threatening your life, all while the police are told to stand down and let it happen. Just as they did that night. And no calling in of the National Guard. There is video from that night showing some in that violent group in Kenosha were also openly carrying firearms. All part of the Marxist takeover of our country, now that they control most elections and hold the Federal level.
Not one peep from any auntiFA cells here in Florida.. I wonder why?? We know they exist in Gainesville, Orlando, Tampa and Miami.. Not One Effin’ Peep…
I suspect the FBI is heavily involved with ANTIFA.
Some of them maybe criminals or mental case they are grooming. They need these type of degenerate to control.
Kenosha shooting victim shot i’d as People’s Revolution Movement activist
https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2020/08/gaige-paul-grosskreutz-kenosha-shooting-victim-shot-activist/
Not a victim. Enemy combatant that was served justice
Hey, he was honest in his testimony at least. That’s the best anyone can hope for at this point.
Well, Rosenbaum was a convicted child molester, so, yes, he’s probably their type.
Forgot to add that Rosenbaum was bipolar, and had just been released from a psychiatric ward the day of the riot. Yes, really. He was out on the street swinging a chain that night.
Indeed, and just how did he arrive at Kenosha ? Was he released expressly to go there?
That’s the Demonrat way of doing things. Project Veritas has a Demonrat operative named Craemer (sp?), husband of a (D) congresswomen, on taped admitting he hired mentally ill people to attack MAGA folks outside Trump rallies.
paper tiger
Find creeps (like child molesters) that have motive to skate charges. Tell them their charges will be treated leniently if they do the FBI’s bidding (aggitate good citizens). If the FBI plants are “eliminated” in the ruckus, then two problems are solved: a creep is no longer able to commit crimes and now they are permanently silenced and can’t tell anyone what the FBI set them up for. Plus the goal of agitating the crowd has been accomplished.
#DisbandTheFBI
During the Civil Rights struggles in the ‘60s, the FBI would often get advance notice of planned activities from local LE and then station agents where they could observe or even film events.
Of course, back then, given the communist influence and advisers (RFK and JFK practically begged MLK to distance himself from his hard left advisers) to MLK, the FBI considered the Civil Rights movement to be subversive.
The point being, the FBI has been picking sides (and engaging in various support or persecution) in domestic political affairs for a very long time. And not to add too fine a point, what is a law enforcement organization doing picking winners and losers in domestic political struggles???
It truly makes the U.S. Marshalls look better & better & taking down most of the FBI more inviting.
It’s one of my reasons for giving up on Hannity. 90% of the non-DC FBI are as corrupt and/or politicized in the “field” as they are in DC, IMHAO.
As the trial progresses, the DOJ is likely preparing a Federal prosecution for civil rights violations.
The plan continues:
Provoke patriots to violence and kill them, and suppress and bully anyone who refuses to grovel.
Keep fighting. As Jack Dempsey said about winning, you have to keep getting up even when you can’t.
Who’s civil rights? Sounds as if Kyle’s have repeatedly been violated!
Haven’t you realized that according to the DOJ and FBI people like Kyle don’t have any rights!
They only charge they may have a shot in getting him on is a weapon’s charge
All fun and game until we go to work. ?
Just toss the case, judge, and save the WI people some $$$, and allow Kyle to return to his family.
Better to let 12 citizens clear him. A bigger win for our side. IMO.
The jury has been threatened. Who knows how they will rule.
I concur. The jury is in the cross hairs
I don’t follow trials; but I have been laid up sick for a few days and it has been fascinating TV.
I read that Kyle’s attorneys moved for a mistrial. And the judge seemed to strongly condemn the prosecutor(s).
I got the sense from the article I was reading that the prosecution feared an acquittal.
If a mistrial is declared, would that open the door to the case being retried?
If you were the defense attorney, why push for mistrial if you have grounds for charges being dismissed?
What am I missing here, tactically?
I believe if a mistrial is declared with prejudice, then the case cannot be retried
That is correct.
praying for this…
you want a not guilty.
the criminal cabal wants a mistrial to encourage riots.
The defense counsel asked for a mistrial with prejudice, which would preclude a retrial. “With prejudice” would be very unusual, but if you saw yesterday’s trial or commentary, the judge had to have the jury leave the room twice so the judge could ream out the prosecutor. Once was when the prosecutor made a comment about Rittenhouse staying silent before trial.
The judge was furious and remined the prosecutor that a defendant has a constitutional right to remain silent.
Later in the day the judge reamed out the prosecutor for trying to get in evidence the judge had previously ruled inadmissible. The prosecutor whined, smarted off, and tried to argue that the judge’s ruling left a little leeway.
I’d say right now the prosecutor has two strikes, and a third one might make an out.
I would say 60 days for contempt would be a good starting point for the DA.
Overnighting at the local county jail would be a good start. See if that expensive suit wrinkles.
Today, the day after, the judge has been interrupting the prosecutor. This prosecutor is very inept at asking questions. He could use some refresher courses in criminal trial law.
ADA Binger is not inept at asking questions, he just keeps asking the witness the same question (worded differently). The defense objects, saying “Asked & answered” and the judge has told Binger to stop badgering the witnesses several times.
Today Binger asked a question and reminded the witness that he was under oath to tell the truth. Objection be defense team, judge admonished Binger for suggesting to the jury that the witness was not being truthful.
During Kyle’s testimony I noted how well prepared he was against Binger’s badgering. That’s why they put him in the witness stand & also no prior record or truancy. Kyle was not smart alecky towards Binger, but Binger was snarky smart alecky, not good optics for grown highly educated man against a high school kid.
I could see Kyle give his well rehearsed answers and when a question was asked, probably not anticipated by the defense team, Kyle would take a deep breath, calm himself and quietly answer. I wonder if they went to other trials of Binger’s to observe him or videos of Binger in action to prepare Kyle to be a witness. Also, I wonder if he was given a med to be chill & not to get agitated.
Wonder what has been the effect on hte Jury to have to leave the room 2x during proceedings??
People are smart. They can see cause and effect.
Perhaps they actually heard the Judge yelling at the prosecutor? Was the loud voice intentional – ya know – maybe they will hear this?
“with prejudice” is NOT that unusual after a jury has been seated and evidence has been presented…a trial in fact DID happen but malfeasance by the prosecutor sort circuited justice
Due to suppression of evidence by FBI, prosecutorial misconduct and stalking, intimidation and tampering with the jury, judge Schroeder has every right to declare MISTRIAL WITH PREJUDICE, which sent the white supremist scalp hunters hyperbolic. Pravda never expected an HONEST judge for their kangaroo court.
Historically, Schroeder is apparently known as a harsh on defendant’s judge. Binger has been in his court over 400 times. That things have gone as sideways as they have underscores the political and incendiary overtones of this persecution, even the judge is stepping into the fray with ‘whoa’.
I don’t disagree but I do think the judge is letting it play out thinking there will be an acquittal. An acquittal of all charges would be the best case scenario.
Anticipating that, given the threats against the jury, may be too much to expect.
When King Saul would not defend Israel, David stepped out in faith to confront the Giant.
I’m glad Kyle testified.
All but the crying part.
All he should have said it was a good day helping business police refused to and a hard night trying to run from assailants. As multiple videos show from various sources, I lawfully defended myself against three people trying to steal my rifle or kill me.
It’s beyond me why I’m sitting here in court defending my actions against a prosecutor who refuses to accept my actions.
I didn’t see a problem with the crying part. Soldiers and police often have very emotional responses to having to take a life, even when it was absolutely necessary to do so.
I agree. People saw how young he is and that he has suffered too.
Disagree. When one tools up to defend, its ones responsibility to ensure your actions are lawful. Just as it was the responsibility of the three who attacked him to act lawfully, which they did not; two justly losing their lives, the other wounded and hope thankful Kyle didn’t put a second round center mass in his chest.
Kyle had time to cry in the shower well before his trial. He’s now 18, a man and did everything correctly to lawfully defend himself. Kyle’s actions should be commended for restraint and only using deadly force when necessary.
Any person who isn’t severely traumatized and regretful after going through what Mr. Rittenhouse went through I would not want to turn my back on.
IMO, where Richards fell down was sticking to his usual and customary practice of very little objection. He didn’t step up and protect his client when the prosecutor overstepped the boundaries. Even Schroeder commented that he can only rule on objections *if* counsel makes them.
Kyle did good considering. Richards didn’t earn his court pay yesterday IMO.
My impression is that Mr. Rittenhouse was so sincere and reliable that the defense team was confident of his ability to remain calm under the attacks by Binger. This was a perfect display in front of the jury of just how poised Mr. Rittenhouse remained even when being relentlessly hounded by a sociopath. He didn’t respond in anger even once, he didn’t respond with sarcasm, or a suggestion that perhaps he could smack Binger with a skateboard a couple times then they can resume the discussion. He demonstrated incredible self-control.
One or more jurors likely will be impressed by that and will apply the same perception to the actions that were taken, and more importantly the actions that were not taken, when he was being chased by a mob intent to kill him. His restraint that night and his restraint on the stand yesterday are of the same coin.
Kyle should not be acquitted, there should be no mistrial. This entire nightmare for Kyle was caused by evil people.
Kyle deserves to be labeled an American Hero.
“Should NOT be acquitted”?
Don’t you mean, should be acquitted?
Are you “Val” too?
This case should not go to the jury, there is no doubt he acted in self-defense, the judge should dismiss this case because there was no case to prosecute.
While I agree that no charges should have been brought against Kyle Rittenhouse, exactly how does what you propose happen?
Let’s deal with the reality. Ideal at this point is an acquittal. Dismissed with prejudice is next best.
NOT GUILTY is actually the best.
His peers say he’s innocent.
The judge should dismiss the case, prosecution has proven he acted in self-defense.
I a so tired of the TV lawyers and internet lawyers for that matter saying what a risk it is to have Kyle testify. The goal is to win, not become centerfold in the law review. Kyle did a great job yesterday because the facts are on his side. So what if he can’t remember something and screws up? Get the tape out and play it again! One lawyer on the internet was freaking out when they called Kyle, and then didn’t understand that it’s common trial procedure for the judge to go over his rights with him before questions are asked.
The problem with testifying is that the defendants can snap back at the prosecutor, blurt out something incriminating or just come across as weasely, whiny or annoying.
Rittenhouse was the rare exception. You’re right, he kept his cool, came across as honest and decent, (and was likely thoroughly prepped by his attorney).
I think it’s the smart, calculated move by his attorney. He’s probably done direct with Kyle multiple times and Kyle’s story is consistent. He knows his client is believable and comes across as guileless. And at the state’s table, he knows that Littlefinger cannot help but make a douche of himself. He probably is reading the jury’s reactions. And then there’s the simple facts of the case where video and the state’s own witnesses are on the defense’s side. So its the unusual circumstance where there’s probably a lot more upside than down.
This trial juxtaposes the Chauvin trial almost perfectly. There you had a prosecution MUCH better prepared than defense, witnesses which mostly favored the state, a rather sad excuse for a defense, and a defendant who didn’t take the stand. And a judge that was much more deferential to the state.
I think you are unfair to the defense attorney in the Chauvin case. There was no possible way to “be prepared” when the prosecution mob (70+ attorneys all using the resources of huge firms plus the unlimited pockets of the state) were allowed to introduce an average of 500 new exhibits each day. Stuff popping out of nowhere each day is not something that can be prepared for.
You cannot make chicken salad from chick s$$t. IOW, you have to have a defendant client who is innocent AND can explain what he was thinking & he did in a way that gets his honesty across to the jury & doesn’t offend or anger them.
That’s a rare client in most criminal trials & why a lot of defendants in big cases don’t take the stand.. and you can’t put your client on the stand if you know they’re going to lie.
That is, lawyers who still follow the canons of ethics.
One ancillary factor is Kyle, just by publicly testifying after remaining silent for over a year, gave the Communist propaganda machine more ammunition to augment their brainwashing operation that’s been targeting the Kenosha press since the riots regarding him.
The jury has been absorbing that for over a year and, even with instructions to not view content about the trial outside the court, dollars to donuts they are anyway and the activation words and phrases and images can skew their perception of the trial and evidence in their deliberations.
Had Kyle not testified, testimony would’ve moved on to the expert witnesses and the pasting the prosecution had received prior would have little to no balance. They were decidedly losing their case against the robust claim of self defense. Kyle’s testimony, and especially Richards not aggressively protecting him and shutting Binger down when he went afield, didn’t help matters. Did it hurt them? IDK. My take is Schroeder wants the trial to go to the jury and the jury decision to stand and will walk a summer country mile barefoot to get it there, so there will be no mistrials, directed verdicts or JNOV.
In the end, it was up to Kyle. He was in charge of whether he would testify or not. His choice. He made it.
WATCH LIVE: Kyle Rittenhouse trial for Kenosha shooting continues – Day 8
https://commoncts.blogspot.com/2021/11/watch-live-kyle-rittenhouse-trial-for_11.html
The incompetence of the prosecuting attorney is amazing. Can someone really be this bad as a prosecutor? Perhaps it’s a ploy to have a mistrial and further punish kyle.
What i find even more amazing is the IR technology used by the FBI imaging. Yes! This is confirmation that they are spying on us. I’ve constructed a suit to thwart IR imagining and now know where to test my creation. (Waiting for the next riot). What’s the chances of the derelicts rioting over a not guilty decision?
“Social justice” demands scalps.
If not Kyle Rittenhouse and or the families of the jurors or judge, then the local communities will experience redistributive “justice” in the form of looting and pillaging of the property of business owners and citizens.
Binger ran unsuccessfully for state’s attorney as a Democrat. I expect he thinks a win her would help him in a future election.
The prosecutor in the Zimmerman case had dreams of running for FL attorney general.
The prosecutor who framed the Duke lacrosse team was appointed to fill out a term, and realized he could get a much bigger pension if he ran for DA. He played the race card to win in that county, and won, but the charges eventually fell apart.
Rick Scott and the blonde bimbo AG in Florida tried to frame Zimmerman just like the DOJ and FBI tried to frame President Trump!
They could have picked someone other than Angela Corey, though.
The prosecutor has to make soundbites for the liberal media.
He’s real job
According to BLM & George Floyd enthusiasts, extremely high.
I am expecting the People’s Revolution types to dox all the jurors families if they do not get Rittenhouse’s conviction.
I am expecting patriots to protect Kyle and anyone else who is on the side of justice and rule of law. He has been a great example of the courage we all want to think we have; we can’t be cowards and abandon him.
Where did I imply that they would be abandoned to the mob?
Apparently they’ve already been video’d and photographed boarding the sheriff bus so both their identities are likely in the hands of the Communist’s information mercenaries and the acts of discovery of the surveillance are an informed threat.
Remember the degrees of separation from government actors and the private contractors they employ to do their dirty work. The Kenosha court and attorneys are clean. The work comes from outside entities, just like the riots did. It’s all part of the same op.
I am sure that is an accurate assessment.
Just enough separation for plausible deniability of the bad actors amongst them.
The point is that you cannot just fold in the face of such threats as obstacles to the pursuit of actual justice.
Someone has to stand before the mob and say “No”.
Supposedly, those phones were taken, no?
Exactly ?
I am expecting that allowing them to retire for the weekend at home allows them to be bothered by blm and antifa, threatened.
I read an article about Joy Reid crying about white supremacy in relation to Kyle.
Is she the “Lying Dog Faced Pony Soldier” Biden was talking about? Is she the super hero known as the Black Labrador ?
Did she cry when Joey China Mumbles said the “N” word numerous times in the Senate? How about Chuckie Schumer’s crying? The liberals are sadists and psychopaths. They do not have real tears
The way to handle a Joy Reid is to mock her, never engage on issues with her.
“Crybaby, crybaby.”
If Rittenhouse was a “vigilante” because he brought a gun, what was Grosskreutz?
He also brought a gun.
And was carrying it concealed after his CC permit had expired.
Grosskreutz was a Felon in Possession…
This witness from REal News America is great…………finally, the jury is getting a real time look at what happened before the shooting……….the mob, the burning, the chaos.
This witness is calling them Antifa; multiple times.
Great closing witness for Defense.
Law & DisOrder.
Will the rule of law, or the rule of mobs and politics, prevail in this case?
Kyle Rittenhouse was attacked by “BlM” operatives, who are democrat run terrorists!
Former Princeton Prof: Democrats Are Using Black People, Destroying Nation”Swain, an African-American who has taught at both Princeton and Vanderbilt, described the Black Lives Matter movement as “part of the cultural Marxist agenda against America.””
https://www.westernjournal.com/former-princeton-prof-democrats-using-black-people-destroying-nation/
The legacy of Barack Hussein Alinsky.
The community activist in chief.
I guess the real question is why the BLM (B stands for Black) rioters Rittenhouse was forced to shoot are all jewish communists rather than you know, black.
Bolshevik Liberation Movement…
I hope that when (not if) Kyle is exonerated that he sues the pants off of the city of Kenosha for allowing this mayhem to happen and him having to go through this godawful experience.
When I saw the news reports the day it happened – it was obvious to me that it was self defense.
The fact that there is even a trial is one sorry testimony of leftism destroying America.
Not just destroying America but totally destroying all legal/justice systems. “Justice” is now only what the elite, dictators & “leaders” say it is. The rule of law is being obliterated & Congress is either participating in the destruction or just sitting idlely by.
Mr. Biggs needs to face disbarment.
heh
Absolutely!
Defund the police, remove your rights to arms and the ability to use them to defend yourself, your loved ones and your property.
Things have changed mighty quickly.
Remember it wasn’t that long ago that governors were saying looters would be shot during natural disasters.
Still the same here in the Gunshine State.
Thanks for the fact check ✔ ✅ ? ? picture ?.
My God, this prosecutor is an entirely unlikeable person.
Were I a resident of the county he serve, I’d want him fired. Any jury would have sympathy for a thief if this guy were prosecuting.
Most Leftists in government are not likable!
The prosecutor is representative of the know-nothing about the law, emotion based, ‘progressive’, SJW types who now permeate our law enforcement & judicial system.
It used to be doing this badly at trial (especially when he loses) was a career killer. Frankly he should be pulled and fired before the end of today just for disrespecting and being argumentative with with the court. Will be interesting to see what eventually happens to this dopey snowflake.
As if hiring an attorney to hand over evidence is proof of guilt.
Conspiring to protect oneself…ha
Perzactly!
The judge had to correct Binger yesterday on the difference between hollow point bullets and full metal jacket bullets.
Well duh, hollow points explode on contact. They have to hollow out the bullet for the explosives.
What? The bullet itself is hollowed out but not for “explosives”. The gun powder is in the casing like all gun cartridges.
https://gunbelts.com/blog/all-about-hollow-point-bullets/
my reply was sarcasm
OK I was surprised by that post but didn’t get the sarcasm. I should have figured that out my apologies. I usually add a /s for older posters like me! But there are a lot people who just have absolutely no knowledge about guns or ammo. Just saying. Maybe it will be helpful for someone else?
Inflection is lost in this medium.
Thank you!
I took it as sarcasm
Excellent picture ? though.
One aspect of being a good trial lawyer is having the right personality. Being a pompous pr!ck can lose a case.
Same goes with witnesses. My firm always told the medical experts in personal injury and products cases to come across as an approachable and competent medical expert who would have the jury thinking, “Hey, I’ve got to remember this guy’s name in case someone in my family needs his expertise. He really knows his stuff.”
I have an attorney friend who has the amazing ability to remember the names and details of just about anyone he meets.
As he walks though the courthouse, he takes the time to talk to everyone who works there, from judge to janitor.
He greets them warmly and asks about their spouses, children, and interests.
Jurors don’t just see what goes on in the courtroom, they also see what goes on on its hallways.
I worked several trials and you are correct. Jurors May not know the fine points of the law, but they know an obnoxious ass-wipe when they see one.
Having testified as an expert witness on many occasions, I’m a little bit surprised one of the defense witnesses didn’t intentionally lower their voice just to piss off that pampas prosecutor. That technique takes the examination control away from the opposition attorney. Keep slowing and lowering breaks the pace and disrupts the questioning
Don’t ever hire a fancy pant city slicker lawyer for a sleepy Southern town. It will backfire every time. We like down to earth types.
The real criminals are not on trial- yet.
Kyle demonstrated the kind of “Gun Control” the left hates. Now if the anti-American congress could produce legislation related to Kyle’s type of “gun control ” where a good guy can rid society of pieces of human trash that deserve it, I’m all for it.
Have been following some of the comments on LI and Ace where people are watching the trial closely. Seems like a directed verdict with prejudice is in order. We can only hope. Case should have never reached a court room.
I’m watching this fiasco. It will be back on at 1 cst
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/watch-live-kyle-rittenhouse-trial/
The prosecution has nothing , they are cherry picking
Why do the cherries look like raisins?
If Kyle shot Grosskreutz in self-defense, then why isn’t Grosskreutz facing charges? He admitted in court that he was carrying an unlicensed firearm. He admitted to coming around Kyle and pointing a loaded gun at this head. His own video shows him running to catch up with Kyle after Kyle stated he was going to the police and no longer presented a threat. The video shows Kyle’s weapon pointed at the ground while running away. What more does a prosecutor need?
Prosecuting Grosskreutz as the attacker would establish Rittenhouse’s self-defense against Grosskreutz. I didn’t follow Grosskreutz’ testimony, but I would guess there was a deal somewhere on the unlicensed firearm charge in exchange for “favorable” testimony.
Because the very concept of self defense is on trial
Exactly ?
IMO he’s a Communist mercenary and protected. Kenosha was full of them during that period. Some came from as far away as my state, Oregon. Hundreds were supposedly arrested, however very few were actually named and I’ve been able to find only a handful who were charged. It would be a full time job just keeping track of how the government disappears these mercs into the system and quietly spits them out.
Some of us are without power today so we can’t watch the trial on TV or the internet. It would be really nice if we could read some substantive comments that describe the proceedings rather than political commentary. After getting caught at the intersection of MLK (formerly Union Avenue and Killingsworth when the Rodney King Verdict was reached, I don’t want to get caught unaware again.
Legal insurrection has a running commentary on what is happening at the trial which is almost real time.
Kinda boring today, lots of procedural stuff, mostly image-related going on right now, defense is then resting and then there will be some rebuttals back and forth. My bet is the case will go to the jury tomorrow.
The ADA is truly such a dick.
I want Kyle to sue every one of these jerks
That’s what the Covington Catholic kid did.
Joy Reid is a garbage human being (that’s the nicest thing I could say about this person).
Covington taught the media a lot and, unlike those teenagers, Kyle was accused of and is being tried of a capital crime.
He can sue them, sure, but the guy who sued on behalf of the Covington students other than Sandman has already opined it would likely go nowhere. It was epic to watch him ream Binger a new one on Youtube yesterday though. Go Robert!
No high road nonsense, sue them all for everything they have.
Important to remember that leftists definition of “justice” is nothing of the sort. Consider the gobbledygook phrases “social justice”, “racial justice”, “environmental justice”. If justice requires an adjective, it’s not justice.
Their definition of justice is essentially “I am morally in the right on every single thing I believe, therefore anything that furthers my desires is OK, and anything that hinders them in the slightest must be destroyed by any means possible.”
It’s pretty clear this toad-sucking prosecutor is one of those.
They teach this in law school!
What you state fits right in with what I see as one of the defining characteristics of left: a belief that the ends justify the means. They are quite upfront about it. Obama stated it openly. Rules for Radicals has a chapter devoted to it. It is this belief that allows them to be total hypocrites without any care that they are so.
because certain people on the right – have zero idea of narrative versus narrative, and end up yielding to some arguments the left has that are correct versus dismissing them… because the left will never acknowledge your arguments – so the end result looks like you agreed with the left as they disagreed with everything you said So they must be correct.
Exactly. If something is wrong, it’s wrong for everyone. If not, what the hell does equal justice under the law mean?
In their idea of justice is “my way or the highway” and the criminals are the true victims.
Only in a fallen nation whose justice system has gone to hell in a hand basket could this attempted lynching have gotten anywhere near this far.
The Borg have a very bad feeling about how this will end, we see no upside here for Kyle.
The powers that be will not tolerate Kyle Rittenhouse becoming an American hero. Sadly, we believe the outcome of this trial is irrelevant, Kyle’s fate is sealed. If he loses, he’ll get the Jeffery Epstein treatment in prison; if he wins, ANTIFA will make his life (and that of his family) a living Hell, or; the FBI will be waiting for him outside the courthouse.
We take note of the January 6th “insurgents” now rotting away in jail sans any Constitutional rights whatsoever. We take note of the 10-man FBI hit-team sent to rough up Project Veritas’ James O’Keefe in the wee hours of the morning. Trust us, AG Garland has the order setting in his desk drawer, already signed — pick up Rittenhouse on suspicion of “domestic terrorism”. The DoJ will do it because they know they’ll get away with it.
Also, let’s not forget: the Left has infinite financial resources when it comes to acquiring top lawyers for the onslaught of litigious wrongful-death civil suits; a process that could go on for years. Without outside help, a “free” Rittenhouse will be buried in legal bills.
Of course the MSM will be mobilized to examine every aspect of Rittenhouse’s personal life, as well of that of his family and friends. Expect an avalanche of “bombshell” hit pieces every night. And this doesn’t count the dozens of “anonymous” internet sources with all kinds of mostly made up tidbits. Remember: if it’s on Twitter, it’s considered news.
…guess its just time to give up…sigh. /
Borg needs to refrain frim Borg’s spewing of fears and despair.
Borg needs to embrace the Power of borg’s positive thinking.
I disagree. Courageous men beget more men acting courageously. “Let’s see what happens…” VSGPDJT
Borg this…
It might be unpopular but thanks for the reality check. It prepares we patriots on the front lines for the realities of what we’re facing out there. The Communists are formidable. Asymetric warfare is key.
Kyle is a good guy, a high roader who plays by the rules and believes in the system of equitable justice. This trial and what has come before and will come after is a great demonstration of the reality of America, what it is. I hope he takes it all in.
I am reminded of a Senfield epsiode………..The Jimmy/the Borg. Comedy at it’s best.
Be like Kyle.
#BLK
Is anyone here having a PeeWee Herman moment while watching the prosecution question the witness? I am 😛
whats the guy in the 2nd row behind kyle wearing around his tie?
Someone should do a review of his Star Wars lapel pins 😉
I hope Kyle Rittenhouse decides to go into law – after all. he’s certainly seen the abuse of it up close and personal.
He most likely will be mentally unstable (edit – or a tough mind that is stable and able to handle trauma) after this. Perhaps he can be a part of a citizen deputy program following this – to do outreach and explain the importance of citizens aiding law enforcement.
I don’t have a link, but I read he was studying to be a nurse.
I apologize and sincerely take back my previous assessment of the Persecution: he’s that other D-word. That one referring to a man’s anatomy.
I bet he has a full length mirror in his shower.
he job is to create sound bites for playing on fakemedia. to keep as many useful idiots useful.
ADA Petyr “littlefinger” Baelish
Let’s not forget the Julian Assange case as well. Timed perfectly I might add.
Was Gaige a medic? Was he FBI?
Given the FBI was filming, and their past history, pretty high probability FBI undercover officers and informants were present.
Whichever he calls himself, I’d bet my last dollar he was an antifa goon.
Exactly ?
As currently constructed-
The f b i = antifa(and all such organizations that are “enemies foreign and domestic”).
If for some crazy reason they convicted this kid, the misconduct of the prosecutor would be grounds for an appeal?
Let’s not think that way…under Wisconsin law this young man is facing life imprisonment
One can expect that appeals are already being drafted as a contingency. IMO the trial is full of appeal material just on the procedures and law. What a mess. I’m impressed that Schroeder has kept it together and moving. I hope that guy is swimming in cookies for the holidays.
What concerns me the most about this trial is the possibility of the DOJ getting into this prosecution on Federal charges to influence the jurors to convict. A similar thing happened with the George Floyd trial.
For example, why is this prosecutor pushing the envelope so hard? His court room antics and witness badgering behaviors are as obvious as they are ridiculous. Since Day One, the ADA is seen by many, including the judge, as a repulsive, arrogant, and offensive buffoon.
The Rittenhouse trial has very little to nothing to do with the law. It’s a political show trial. Reading about it is like reading Solzhenitsyn. The verdict is demanded, not demonstrated.
The defense lawyers should have objected to a lot of the cross examination but didn’t. One theory is that the defense is letting the prosecutor further irritate and alienate the jury and the judge—who at this point should issue a directed verdict and not let this go to the jury.
We live in a lawlessness time where media bias, jury tampering and prosecutorial misconduct are allowed. I contend that if and when Kyle Rittenhouse is acquitted, the Feds will step in, ignore the US Constitution, to get the verdict they want. There goes our right to defend ourselves.
God help us.
I pray the Feds do step in, and bang his head against the ground as they drag him away – further angering the American Public. Kyle is tough – he will be rewarded greatly in the end for his effort.
what we need more than anything is the Fed abusing us – and this all to happen simultaneously as other Tresspasses are occuring — inflation, XMas ruined, Covid mandates, airport protest, travel screwed up, ANGER ANGER ANGER AGGITATION AGGITATION.
the only way for this country to be free is to have ‘the same anger it have November 2016, that forced the election cabal to ignore Hillary’s plea to fake more votes’ – —- they stood down due to the overwhelming analysis of the anger pulse of the nation and what THEY WERE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANYMORE under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE’.
they own the Law. they dont own the People. The people aggitated is the only path to freedom.
I have a different take on the DA. I think he wants to be the DA in a Perry Mason remake.
Nah, recall that the Mason writers had every couple of years or so a “speech” Hamilton Burger gave in the final scene, the one after the last commercial. Burger spoke about his responsibility to the TRUTH, and if the client was innocent (as Perry always showed), the he was proud to be part of a system that resulted in producing the TRUTH.
So, Hamilton Burger (Erle Stanley Garner’s way of poking fun at the character of the DA–his name was taken from “Hamburger” –was a smug asshole until he turned into an acceptable representative of the American judicial system AFTER THE LAST COMMERCIAL. LOL
Is Kyle the only one being prosecuted ? Did the idiot who admitted pointing a gun at Kyle have charges brought against him ? Was he legally carrying the handgun he pointed at Kyle ?
The only Wisconsin charge after the riots was a DUI in October 2020 if memory serves and the DA dismissed that charge last month. He has a prior rap sheet in WI, all misdemeanors or infractions/traffic from my perusal.
IIRC, at trial it was shown his permit to carry concealed was expired at the time of the riots so if he was carrying concealed, that would be actionable. No action was taken on that or anything else. He’s either protected or made a deal. My bet is the former. He was there on someone’s orders. We saw more of it on Jan 6.
This is more trial by the Media, and it needs to stop it is just getting worse they are openly framing people, they control the elected dumps in DC, same people pushing racism trying to hang innocent people and get away with it, what really resembles the 3K’s is the Media watch and listen it’s more blood they want.
At some point it doesn’t even matter if the guy they framed gets off: the left got over a year of milking the white supremacy lie that a bunch of dumb voters and soon-to-be voters will have bought.