The recent indictment of Clinton lawyer Michael Sussmann has triggered a significant amount of well intended articles, essentially reconstituting the hope that someone -or some group- might finally be held accountable for the multi-year, multi-issue, multi-institution fraud, better known as ‘spygate’.
Factually, the Trump-Russia collusion narrative was always a complete ruse perpetrated upon the American people, with the intended objective to stop Trump, then hamstring Trump; then cover-up what they were doing to accomplish those goals; and then finally destroy the Trump presidency. Y’all know the story, I ain’t repeating it.
As an outcome of the Sussmann indictment, many are wondering if this is the first domino in a series of explosive political dominoes that might fall and finally collapse the entire house of cards that surrounded the Clinton campaign and their conspiring with intelligence operatives, politicians, media, DOJ and FBI officials.
Yes, there are interesting dynamics within the Sussmann indictment story-lines; and yes, the authors digging through the indictment granules are all well versed in the details and very good at putting forth optimistic possibilities.
Paul Sperry Article Here – TechnoFog Article Here
…and there are likely dozens more, like THIS and THIS and THIS.
Read them all, follow them all and consider them all. However, as to the bigger question: will the Durham probe finally outline all the evidence to prove all the years of deception and fraud perpetrated by the massive aligned system of corrupt government?
My short and painful answer is, NO.
The longer answer is attached to the one issue that all researched opinions and analytical theories never touch. The 800lb gorilla in the room that no one will put into their accountability prism, because it blocks all other sunlight:
If Durham was going to reveal what optimistic folks proclaim as possible; how is Durham going to handle the reality that Robert Mueller’s entire existence was in place to hide it?
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Bill Barr was the Bondo.
John Durham is the spray paint.
800 pound gorilla?
Come on now, Hillary doesn’t weigh that much.
500 pounds maybe, but not 800 pounds.
My thought is if Durham is allowed to attack Sussman, then it is Obama approved. This may just be a shakedown of the Clinton’s. Chicago style.
If that is what this is then Durham will not go far.
…wrong…he will go to the top of the tree….watch…
Q tick tocker lol. He would be crushed by deep state 1/8th up the tree.
Yeah, the civil war in the Democrat Party is over, and the Clinton faction decisively lost.
The left-wing/Obama faction has won, and the pinheads like Bill Kristol who called Biden a moderate have only their shattered dreams.
But I’ve not heard of Obama ever Arkanciding anyone, so if so he’s playing with fire
choir boy/man?
500 lbs is before the shower and without the makeup and hairspray!
Bill, I now need eye bleach …stat. Uuggghhh!
Yeah, the last recent picture I saw of her was a leaner, still not kinder Hillary.
This country is being run by an international mafia. 5 eyes.
infinite lies…
And that is what has to dealt with. I’d love a list of all the individuals running and involved in this crime syndicate.
Detain anybody with a berg and you can get the rest of the list from them.
Good analysis Sundance!
sums up the likely reality of it all.
Yes, I like the refresher to help me remember all the details.
Mueller’s gone, right?
but he’s not dead yet
Yes it was. And I must reluctantly agree.
The entire DNC and the IC and DOJ and upper Military corporate media …the existing power structure…combined to
1.Stop Trump in 2016
2.Sabotage a democratically elected President.
and in doing so completely destroyed the republic.
John Durham will not overturn this existing power structure. Even if he wanted to , he would not have the power. Who would make the arrests ? He himself and his team would be arrested or killed before the CIA etc gave up control of the USA.
same with 2024.even if POTUS trump re-elected. Then what ??
First Satan created the Mafia. That was just for practice. Then Satan created the US Government and declared that he had achieved perfection.
LOVE^^^
I agree. Durham’s been deadwood for years. Suddenly he belches and everyone goes “Oooh, Durham!”
Well not everyone.
Not me, I finally completely gave up on this case before Barr resigned.
Could get a case of Arkencovid though.
Two viruses to the back of the head.
Via blow dart.
With bad vaccine on the tip?
KUDOS!
“2 covids to the back of the head”
Of course the LieMedia will say it was a robbery even though wallet, money, phone & jewelry was not taken.
Or is that ‘Covidcide’?
ShipwreckedCrew isn’t “everybody”, neither is Paul Sperry. SWC has over 22 years as a Federal prosecutor, he writes w great legal specificity.
He says the bread crumbs (my term) started way back, including FBI special agent William Barnett.
SWC is nothing more than another Bill Barr.
Of course, that is my scabies influenced opinion.
aaacckk, ptui.
SWC is just another traffic cop, directs the eyes of information seekers where the powers-that-be want people’s eyes to move.
Just my opinion from observing that twitter feed’s posts for a while now.
The 4th branch, is a global alliance and they act and synchrony. They work together and never turn on each other. That’s where their strength is at.
Alexander Downer- Australian, Mifsud in Italy(connected to Boris Johnson) , don’t forget the London people like Stephan Halper.
Israelis, Ukraine and others were in it as well.
This would be a global take down.
Don’t forget former MI6 chief Goodlove, Steele’s BFF, who 2 weeks ago came to the brilliant conclusion after I am sure was 20 years of deep thought and reflections since 9/11 that the “moderate” imams living in UK, by Jove, sure are not all that interested in fighting “extremist islamic thought” amongst their mosque attendees.
They are figureheads. Who are their handlers?
Just lower your expectation to 10000 ft under and Durham will probably meet it. This republic is far down corruption to save it. Everything is just sideshow. Nothing will be done, and I will eat the paper if proven to be wrong.
Any recent video footage proof that Durham is even alive? or even shows up at work? Any salary receipts? W-2s?
Sussman indictment, 27 pages when 1 paragraph would work.
Why 27 pages?
Joe Dan had some footage of Durham in his last video. 🙂
Yes, a sighting! Grainy footage, though.
Its looking sus.
Sundance I read your mind. It is exactly as you say it is. I wasn’t expecting anything from Dud-ham. Another fool swimming in all he knows in the deep state. Phooey on him.
Sussman indictment, 27 pages when 1 paragraph would work.
Why 27 pages?
A 27 page narrative gives certain people a heads up on the storyline should, when, if, they get called to participate in this game of stump the people.
Surely after over a year of investigation, Durham knows Mueller’s obvious purpose, or was advised of the purpose before his investigation started – The question then arises, why would Barr the Bondo, appoint Durham unless the fix is in and Durham will only be indicting expendable players similar to sacrificing pawns only and the investigation is nothing but Kabuki Theater.
Then why bring any indictment?
File a ‘report’, and retire. Easy cheesy.
Recall, Durham publicly rebuked the Inspector General. Rare.
No one will ever be punished. The uniparty is there to destroy our country and nothing is going to stop them.
I’m not surprised that the malignant swamp contains a malevolent 800 pound swamp gorilla.
Did you forget Stacy the tank Abrams? 1200 l BS would cover that gorilla
Is it correct that the indictment was made now because the statute of limitation was about to run out on this scumbag due to the intentional foot dragging with the Durham “investigation”?
If so, isn’t it likely that the statutes of limitation a whole bunch of others involved have already run out or will run out after discovery in a possibly extended court case?
No, and especially not if they file charges including Conspiracy – Conspiracy SOL ends on the last Act of the group.
ShipwreckedCrew says the 27-page indictment reads like Overt Acts in furtherance of a Conspiracy.
Sussman indictment, 27 pages when 1 paragraph would work.
Why 27 pages?
Tick tock!
Waiting for the 99% FIB good guys to step forward.
Well they can’t step forward when they are kneeling down to the Marxists.
The only ‘Tick Tock’ I care about at this point is the YouTube blogger SSSniper and her hilarious reactions to compilations funny TikToks.
?????
What is Durham?
I’m glad you asked!!!!
Spray paint.
“Bill Barr was the Bondo.
John Durham is the spray paint.”
After the previous post on this subject, I realized I didnt even remember who he was by name anymore. I had to look it up. Way Past this.
We will never have any real justice in this country again until we fix the election fraud issue. That being said, Im curious what will get in the way of decertifying the AZ 2020 election results/electors.
Attorney Matt DePerno responds to AZ Senate Lawyer who Claimed Senate Could Not Decertify
https://wendyrogers.org/attorney-matt-deperno-responds-to-az-senate-lawyer-who-claimed-senate-could-not-decertify/
The Maco Mafia?
There is 1 way durham could do it………Tell the Truth, THE WHOLE TRUTH & nothing but the truth……But will he do it…..I fig’er you got better odds at a slot ???
If you do play the slots, play the high stakes games. Your odds are better
Well this is definitely a highstakes game ???
The US would never run an entrapment scheme abroad without notifying that country. PapaD was entrapped while abroad using foreigners. CIA people, 5 eyes. Mifsud was in Italy in a CIA spy school.
UK, Italy, Australia, and Israel knew. Probably Ukraine as well.
This was a global scheme.
This guy Sussman will get some community service and that’s all folks. Case closed, everyone go home. Just a guy lying to the FBI and he was dealt with.
Barr is the bondo
Durham is the spray paint
Perfect analogy.
Then why a 27-page indictment?
Why publicly rebuke the Inspector General?
theater.
judge all this by results not the old fashioned speech making. Once the older generation dies off they won’t even bother with the theater, and just rely on the illiteracy of the generation to come.
because they know the bondo is showing
Once a good bondo job is spray painted, no one will ever know the problems that were hidden.
Sundance made a wonderful analogy.
Why did Dianne Feinstein release the Glenn Simpson (Fusion GPS) transcript?
Same/Sam
The indictment tells the larger network what is visible.
Clever
Maco Mafia (TM)…. lol
Plain sickening
The Sussmann indictment will be plea bargained down to a parking ticket. There won’t be any other indictments. Durham “investigation” was always a sham. AG Barr was installed as AG by the Senate to ensure there would be no indictments and all DOJ/FBI crimes would be covered up.
President Trump: “Look at the Durham, the first section of the Durham report where Hillary Clinton rigged the campaign…
“I like Lindsey as a person” ?
“I think a lot of really big stuff is gonna come out of that” ?
Sorry, I have to ask this but is the President even aware the Coup against him/us was carried out successfully?
I wonder if he knows that Australia is the test population for the US when he encourages people to get jabbed?
Mifsud is a Maltese professor that worked for the CIA in Italy at the spy school.
Alexander Downer, Australian in bed with the Clinton Foundation.
Christopher Steele, British, Halper, I think British worked at Cambridge. There were Israelis involved. I forgot their names.
This would expose the 5 eyes and allies and it won’t happen. That’s why Durham will go as far as some Clinton Campaign Lawyer and he will get some symbolic punishment to make it look that something was done.
They need some punishment to show for to appease to the masses. But that’s all.
Boris Johnson, UK Foreign Secretary at the time, was an enthusiastic anti-Trump hoax participant:
He could take down everything Clinton, but still not do a thing about FBI, CIA, Obama White House, Obama, or Mueller.
But odds are, and past behavior shows that he won’t go anywhere near that measly little distance.
Another thing. No matter what Durham does, what if the DOJ pulls another “decline to prosecute”. Beyond that, Barr has proven beyond doubt that he is part of Deep State and wasn’t Barr the one who brought in Durham.
Did you say “what if”?
Durham is a special prosecutor, He does not need the DOJ to prosecute, only the will to do so.
My short and painful answer is OF COURSE NOT!
Maybe a few noobs will get suspended sentences while everyone else gets “decline to prosecute.”
I don’t see how Durham prosecutes effectively when everyone in government lines up for their mandatory wrist-slap.
Not believing the tick-tock anymore. That goes for the Arizona BS tomorrow.
Durham is no Julian Assange.
Is Julian still alive?
For years I have read and studied at the Sundance Tree House School of Technology and by now am well versed in every aspect of Planet Zardoz, aka Spygate.
As all the regulars know, there is no one in all the media who has done the research, analysis and connected the dots like Sundance and he has been on top of this from the beginning.
The Marxists who are now running things are pretending not to know the truth- it is so obvious.
I am way beyond caring anymore about the Durham Report or anything else these phony bastards try to pawn off on us.
Do they really think we can be distracted by this BS when they are DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY??
I could give a rat’s ass about Spygate- that’s ancient history at this point. Who cares?
We have no southern border and we are being overrun with verminous invaders from all over the world that will be a burden on the tax slaves FOREVER. So f****k Durham and the horse he rode in on.
4 1/2 years ago, I thought it was a Big Story that sinister forces had spied on a Presidential campaign. Small
peanuts indeed, compared to the present overthrow by the statists of our former Great Republic.
exactly. it’s why these indictments are frustrating more than anything. glad to see some accountability, but it so far on the fringe that calling is “spray paint’ is the perfect analogy. my only hope is that this will open more people’s eyes to the real story. of course, that would mean following the threads, like the links SD posted, but there in lies the problem. most people will never hear about this or won’t dig deeper than whatever source they find this out.
you’re only frustrated because you think there is something there. but it’s all just (quiet) sound and (little) fury
I agree with you Sundance. They sacrificed one guy. Now they’re done with it. No one is going to be held accountable. The Republic has fallen.
So why 27 pages then?
The only hope for exposure of the Spygate fraud is for DJT to be reelected President, then appoint true outsiders/populists as Cabinet level Secretaries, including to replace the fraud which is Christopher Wray at FBI and to have the support of a friendly Congress minus the anti-Trump Decepticons; remote odds for all of that to happen. IOW, Durham ain’t gonna hack it.
Durhams only mission is to suckle at the U.S. Treasury’s teat as long as possible- like until a new legitimate administration comes in and kicks him and his crew to the curb.
When Durham took longer than he should have, I knew the fix was in. Even now, the fix is working as planned. Don’t think so? Take a look at Clinesmith. When the evidence becomes too overwhelming, the Deep State/Dems/Globalists/whatever toss a pawn out to be convicted. Except that “conviction” normally amounts to not much and after a passage of time, that pawn gets put back into play.
Sussmann = Clinesmith.
Barr protected the Deep State. Durham protected the Deep State.
Sundance is right.
And more importantly, the entire DC apparatus is corrupt. No amount of investigation from within will ever work. Within meaning anyone connected to DC.
Clinesmith never spent a night in jail and has been readmitted to the bar.
Source: American Thinker
Mueller’s done, right?
Discussions of ‘why the delays’? (IF we believe the ‘hope porn’.)
1. Durham methodical (some say slow)
2. Covid
3. ShipwreckedCrew says a huge legal fight over Perkins Coie legal exposure & attorney-client privilege (Sussman indictment may reference PC communications)
4. Huge?
Would have been huge, had we not already lost the Great Republic to the statist forces.
It would be truly earth shattering if Durham did the right thing. But then I remember who picked him and all hope flies out the window.
DC = district of coverups
In the latest video from Intellectual Frog Legs there is a brief clip of Durham’s head on the body of Bigfoot.
The Sussman indictment isn’t an actual siting of the elusive creature known as Durham, it’s just scat.
and she still lost.
(at least joe wins when they cheat)
I’m holding out on condemnation towards Durham. I’ve heard his speeches and profession of faith and worldview. Unlike Barr, he does believe in the Kingdom of God and Divine Providence to whom he must answer to. It carries the same weight with me as Trump’s, “I give you my word”. One can’t make these kinds of statements without facing accountability head on, as otherwise one is found as tempting God.
He reportedly goes to church daily, no leaks in 3 years… NO leaks… and his son is an attorney for the Feds. Avoids the media, and seriously defends the right of privacy – at all costs.
Trying to find the bad there.
Patience.
Talks Cheap???
It’s their solution so they don’t have to hear PT tweet and sound off at 100 future Rally’s saying…….
Where’s Durham?
They get to say, he looked, he investigated, he made an arrest now shut up
Arkincide more than likely.
Mysterious plane crash, misdirected drone strike, drunk driver, swamps death de’ jour.
“John Durham will not overturn this existing power structure. Even if he wanted to , he would not have the power. Who would make the arrests ? He himself and his team would be arrested or killed before the CIA etc gave up control”
Which DC swamp support law firm is Rod Rosenstein working for now days ?
I wonder how long before he pops back up in one of the agencies in a high level position?
He has been quiet collecting his $$$$ in some money laundering scheme out there somewhere.
If the layers were to be revealed, in time, Mueller gets explained just like all the rest. Isn’t that the point? I don’t see:
If Durham was going to do what optimistic folks proclaim as possible; how is Durham going to handle the reality that Robert Mueller’s entire existence was in place to hide it?
as the gorilla you do. The fact that Marc Elias and I.T. guy #1 (his name escapes me) BOTH have left their employers tells me, at least, they will be next. And Jake Sullivan? Jake HAS to be indicted. That video of him with Wolfe Blitzer where he out and out lies (and knows his boss HIllary make it all up). Ugh!
It’s not a crime to lie on TV news shows. In fact, most of the MSM news shows are deliberately scripted precisely to present and maintain fabricated stories and false narratives about both political sides in this country and others.
Lying is apparently only actionable by the DOJ when done TO the FBI (sadly, not BY the FBI) and when under oath testifying in an official government hearing.
I feel sorry for anyone in this country who believes that anything will ever be brought into the light. Those who have misguided trust that anything will come from these outrageous investigations and senate hearings; or that the alphabet agencies will willingly give up the power they hold…keep believing. If you can’t see this for what it is, the ultimate power hold, then there’s not a lot left to say.
The 800 Lb Gorilla is Barak Obama instructing the DOJ to not prosecute the illegal searches of the FISA Databases that he and his team began doing.
In a TRUE justice system, there would be 300-400 people indicted and sent to prison for illegally accessing the FISA database for political purposes, and then leaking that classified information for political gain. At the top of that list is Barak Obama, Susan Rice, Eric Holder, Valerie Jarrett, and the list goes on and on and on and on.
The information is there, sitting in plain sight.
When James Comey stood at the lectern and read off Hillary Clinton’s crimes, then gave her the “no intent” pass, that was the signal to everyone in the anti-Trump camp to go all out and get Trump.
The Swamp will N*E*V*E*R be drained until politicians who authorized this illegal activity, and bureaucrats who willingly obeyed the illegal instructions, are prosecuted and put in prison. We will NEVER vote our way out of this mess, we can only prosecute our way out of this mess.
You can write that in granite.
yep – u b right!
Ah Sundance. Thank you, sir.
This brings a breath of fresh air & thinking to the rest of the well-intentioned investigative / analytical independent journalists as listed in the article and I’ll add Mr. Bongino to that respectable group.
I have had serious but uninterrupted doubts about this indictment ever since the news first “broke” about it. Some have said it goes far deeper than just the lying to the FBI…and that 27 pages was very unnecessary to simply charge Sussmann for lying to the FBI….therefore there MUST be more to come…… Okaaayyy.
My reaction has been… this is yet another chapter of “Tick Tock” , “next week”, “by Friday” , etc etc.
Been there. Done that (got my hopes up). Have the mental hemorrhoids from sitting and waiting for YEARS… only to see nothing ever happen.
If the time continuum somehow warps and another highly prominent coup conspirator DOES get indicted… I will revise my expectations only slightly. Convictions and real punishment are still a very distant longshot.
Teh 27 pages is just for News program filler and cover for ding nothing else.
Sundance explained the content in a post on page 2 of these comments. The additional information beyond the simple lying to the FBI, was to covertly signal the rest of the black hats as to what is visible / exposed…so that the black hats (coup conspirators) can adjust their defenses, cover stories/alibis and proactive countermeasures (via fabricated narratives in information “leaked” to the WaPoop and the NYSlimes).
Having read the Shipwrecked Crew piece, and noting his background, I hope that Durham will bring some measure of justice, albeit incomplete and whatever that justice is, Biden will pardon them almost immediately and no one will do any real time. But, I am hoping, with Epstein in the background, that the Obamas have decided to destroy the Clintons. The way to avoid Meuller is to not go where he went. I can’t recall hearing about the Sussman lying to the FBI re Alfa bank prior to this. I knew who Sussman was and the Alfa bank narrative, but I never heard definitively that it was funded by the Clintons and investigated etc by Tech Exec 1.
I am hoping (but prepared to be disappointed) that Durham’s way to avoid the 800 lb gorilla, and to destroy the Clintons, is to focus on this part of the conspiracy and avoid all the other spygate stuff. That way he doesn’t have to contradict or throw shade on Mueller.
Unfortunately the DOJ will sabotage any proceedings and they will still be presented before a judge in either DC or EDV where everyone is a liberal and judges judge according to politics not the law. But any measure of justice is better than no justice at all. Unfortunately the chances of getting real justice are extremely limited by the rampant corruption of the US justice system.
Maybe I should just speak for myself, but it seems we’ve all lost faith and hope. A society cannot function without trust in the government, in the laws and equal enforcement, thereof, and in our institutions. We can no longer trust any of the three branches of our federal government, our elections, or the federal law enforcement agencies. We can’t trust medical institutions, or financial institutions, our education system, or any of the people whom we need most to trust. But what is the worst of all of this is that none of this would have been the least bit possible without the concerted efforts of the corporate media. We cannot even trust that the information we’re being told is true, or even reasonably close to being true. We might as well be in a foreign prison in a third world country, because this is even worse than the loss of freedom, it’s the loss of hope that we will ever be free again.
Agree 99%. So for that reason I don’t recommend reading all those articles. Its all just more diversion, wasting our time on matters never meant to be resolved. If anything is to come from Durham it won’t come from patriots going down this rabbit hole. We know the big picture truth. We don’t need to bother with this… give me a heads up when they are putting the blindfolds on Obama and Hillary. Then I’ll tune in with some popcorn.
I suspect Michael Sussmann is another example of someone who deserves to go to prison for a long time but will never be tried as Andrew McCabe, Hillary, and others weren’t. This is happening to create so much frustration with the system that we will begin not listening to any news as it is so upsetting.
The same with the insanity by the politicians. Claims that the border is closed, Biden calling people racist because they are white and Waters claiming the Border Patrol is whipping Haitians like black slaves is like watching McHales Navy, the Three Stooges and Gilligan’s Island back to back every day. There comes a point when you stop watching.
That is one hell of a take, SD.
I would bet you are correct. I had not looked at it that way.
That is why you have a blog and I am just a nasty tree cat.
Joking aside, I agree with your take. No one in the system would make Mueller/system look bad.
And this is where that reputation, if he ever had it, of Durham being a tough, no-nonsense bulldog who seeks impartial truth no matter what dirt is uncovered, gets laid to rest. Dude’s name is mud. Just another sellout loser exposed by Trump.
Agreed.
The only, extremely slim, possibility that Mueller would be put into a position to look bad is if the evidence of the crimes is not able to be buried and to give Mueller a clean escape is to openly declare he has something like Alzheimer’s so good, loyal Mueller was evilly taken advantage of by those Weissman brought onto the team – a fantasy but that would be one avenue that could be used,
wonder has Weissman made enough enemies within the government yet to make it acceptable for him to be their fall guy to make this whole mess go away for the swamp creatures?
Agreed. If anything was ever going to be done to hold the principals accountable, it would, of necessity, require holding Mueller and his investigation accountable. That will never happen.
In her redacted opinion responsive to the audit of the NSA database contractors conducted by Admiral Roger, the chief judge of the FISA court held that 85 percent if the electronic surveillance conducted by the contractors was unauthorized under FISA. Unfortunately, she also disclosed the existence of a Memorandum of Understanding between the DOJ and the NSA, executed in 2012, that had never before been disclosed to the court, that may explain why the 85 percent may not have been illegal or criminal. The contractors were operating pursuant to the MOU and may have had Obama Administration authorization to do so. Neither the names of the contractors, which were redacted in the opinion, nor the terms of the MOU have ever been disclosed to the public, and AG Barr had absolute authority from President Trump to do so.
We have also never been told whether then candidate Trump, his campaign, his family or his businesses were the subject of any portion of the 85 percent. One would think that, if this unauthorized NSA surveillance had not encroached upon the privacy rights of candidate Trump, the Deep State would have leaked that fact to make themselves look better. For this reason, and because Admiral Rogers apparently informed then President Elect Trump of some type of surveillance sufficient to make the transition team move from Trump Tower the very next day, I conclude that the contractors did, in fact, electronically surveil candidate Trump from November 2015 through April 2016, when Admiral Rogers shut down their database access and initiated his audit. I think this, more than anything, is why the usual suspects felt it necessary to employ Mueller and his merry band of lawfare bandits to cover everything up by making everything relevant to their investigation.
Sussman is the cherry on top of the coverup. He will either get exonerated by a Democratically biased judge and jury or will plead to some nominal charge like Klingensmith to further the public’s “understanding” that some bad things were done, but not really bad. The usual Clinton Limited Hangout.