There is a lot about this video update released today from the Arizona Republican Party that triggers alarm bells. Apparently, the Arizona Republican Chairwoman Kelli Ward is not familiar with the process Maricopa County officials and State Senate leadership have agreed to.
Ms. Ward does not know what role the arbiter, mediator or “special master” will play in selecting the group who will provide the Senate with details of the router and splunk logs. Nor is Ms. Ward aware of the ideology, motives and intents of former congressman John Shadegg who has been selected as the “special master” in charge of fulfilling the senate request(s).
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John Shadegg was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1994, serving 16 years before his retirement in 2010 as the Tea Party wave moved in. Shadegg was a close professional ally of Senator John McCain and currently remains close friends with Cindy McCain. In the typical mindset of the ‘Never Trump’ GOPe , “Mr. Shadegg, in an interview, said party leaders’ crusade against illegal immigration had damaged Republicans statewide and hurt their chances of drawing the growing body of Hispanic voters.”
A lawyer with offices in Phoenix and Washington DC, John Shadegg is a big time open-border and immigration amnesty activist, completely allied with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Business Roundtable. Shadegg is most certainly aligned to protect the interests of the corrupt cocktail class that runs Maricopa County elections.
The coup has already happened but too many keep thinking they can rewind the clock to correct what has gone wrong and put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
Hopium is powerfully addictive….
Now Sundance’s suggestions for how to take back control of national governance may make sense and be doable, but trying to fix the broken 2020 election, although eminently reasonable and correct, is almost bound to end in disappointment given that the nation is now controlled by the Enemy Within.
Ive been living in the mountains with just a radio all summer, so I have missed many stories from the CTH. Could you please provide a link to SD’s suggestions? A cliff notes version would also suffice. Thank you.
You apparently have sufficient access to this article and the forum to post – search for yourself. Why is it people expect others to do the work for them?
That’s what I thought.
Let’s keep being dumb conservatives and losers. One thing you will notice about the D’s is that they stick together. If you can help someone why not do it? The petitioner is likely on your team, not as up to speed as others, and just needs bit of time, effort, and is asking for direction. Are we so elite we cannot offer a hand, and are supporters so disposable? Welcome aboard, jus wundrin’.
Hey Lu;
Then why didn’t you do the research and post the links? Why are you telling someone else to do what you can do?
See how that works?
Deep.
I prefer to call it childish.
Touche. 😉 You may win the argument but lose the person. Can we afford to lose earnest warriors who may join in a cause? Full disclosure-I didn’t know either; thanks to all for pointing me to the information.
The links are already provided by Sundance and company. Look at the end of each article. Click on any link “Posted in:” Yes it is really that simple.
jus wonderin, go to “the archives”, on the home page, and type into the “search box” the term “extreme federalism”, I think THAT should take you to the articles you want.
Scroll up to the top and enter “fourth branch of government” in the search box and click on the magnifying glass icon.
You will be a lengthy list of responses. This has been a big project that Sundance has been working on for months.
Read from the bottom up.
Here you go, sir.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=extreme+federalism
Agreed. There is no possibility of “correcting” 2020 – you cannot rewind the election. The best outcome would be tight election laws that circumvent fraud.
Most of these states did have election laws that would have prevented the fraud. Election officials ignored them and courts refused to take any cases based on them. No election going forward will ever be legitimate until people go to jail over 2020.
Yes, the utter brazenness of it is just disgusting, in everything.
This is a no-win situation?
If the 2020 fraud is not exposed and prosecuted; our election system is fatally wounded.
The Deep State will not go down without a fight and they have the powerful weapons to do it.
I don’t see any outcomes except tyranny or civil war…Perhaps both?
We here can be dazzled with brilliance or baffled with BS! We’re NOT getting dazzled here! Amazing how they keep selecting shady people instead of rock solid individuals. They’re not even trying to galvanize the citizens! The chasm keeps getting wider and deeper!
Which coup?
I think you’re missing the point of audits. That’s why the uniparty always wins.
https://rumble.com/vjdqed-2005-flashback-when-democrats-supported-objecting-to-electoral-college-cert.html
Don’t understand what you mean…
If a credible case is made and can’t change 2020 it has a possibility of changing 2024. Doing nothing or letting those trying to stop it carry out their plans. isn’t an option.
Credible case to whom? The Deplorables already know the whole thing was stolen. The professional political class arrayed against them knows they won (even if not by votes cast, but so what?). Dem supporters believe what they are told and they will be told that the audits are all phony.
Meanwhile, will we see forensic audits in a single State let alone California, NY, NM, CO, NV etc.?
And even if you have those audits and they show massive fraud, all that will do is persuade enough Independents to vote Red.
But what will voting Red mean? Do you think whomever gets in as President and whomever gets into the Senate and Congress will actually go against all the pressure tactics used on them to get them to comply or be retired in disgrace? Do you think the Fed Reserve system along with the FBI, CIA, State, DOJ and basically all of DC will be scrapped?
Because if none of the latter happens, what will change?
Nada.
All politics in the US is now controlled opposition. That is the implication of the ‘Uniparty’ concept.
Personally, I think that DC should be cancelled for 5 years and do that once a century. Also the Fed Reserve – all their holding and debts should be wiped clean and a new system put in place every hundred years.
And once DC is closed down, dismantle the special district and in 5 years time reconstitute the capital somewhere central like Kansas City and then limit income tax to 1% or something.
But no fundamental reform is even on the agenda right now, so what difference does it make to go over 2020 in Courts and Legislatures who are too compromised to conduct even one proper forensic audit after almost one year.
Hopium….
Aparently you’re not on Wendy Rogers mailing list…she cits the agreement, its terms and the fact that cyber_ninjas will be looking over the shoulder of 3rd party making sure the are pursuing correct protocols and will stand by to assist in the recovery of wiped data.
Good. Let’s hope it all works out and clear results from one county will clear the path for thousands of other counties to go through the same process all in less than twelve months so as to have a chance to substantively impact the next mid-terms, and then lets hope that taking back the House actually leads to substantive action which is supported by the Senate.
Tall order. But one can only hope….
Meanwhile, ‘they’ have another full year to further eradicate what little was left of a functioning representative Republic.
But let’s hope….
The left isn’t giving up, and they’re afraid of of this. For example, when Pres. Trump sent a letter to Georgia asking for the results to be decertified on 9/17, Coalition of All Democrat Forces founding member, Ted Boutrous, attached the letter, and in all caps tweeted that this is “DANGEROUS”, “SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING”. The tweet is now deleted, but a link to this is now posted:
https://www.law.uci.edu/news/press-releases/2021/election-subversion-conference.html
Brad Raffensperger is a scheduled attendee.
By ‘left’ I assume you mean The Establishment which includes most Republicans, right?
Golden rule of authoritarian rule: never let the little people see how the sausage is made.
That’s why it’s dangerous.
Trump should have stopped this before it happened. He didn’t.
He should have dismantled the NSA, State, DOJ, FBI, CIA matrix whilst he was in office. He couldn’t, but also never even raised the issue as an option, using his platform as President. Also, very convenient that the one man who might have led an effective Deep State reform initiative, General Flynn, got thrown under the bus by Pence in the first weeks of the new Administration. It was all over then, but only one pundit that I’m aware of picked up on it at the time, that Russian military expert ‘The Saker’ guy. He called it the week it happened and he was right: the Trump administration had caved to the Deep State and anyone who wanted to help in dismantling it would be thrown under the bus just like Flynn. Meaning that nothing after that would really make any difference at all. And it didn’t as we can now see today. It was all hopium.
Audits should immediately have been done because Judges should have insisted that once the Election Laws as written by the State Legislatures had been compromised by Judges and Governors and Sec of States exceeding their authority, immediately evidenciary hearings should have transpired in November. They didn’t. And they never will. The system will never admit that the election was stolen; and without the system’s narrative, the people have no way of crafting narratives that effect substantive change in the body politic, ergo no change is yet on the menu.
Insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result. I haven’t heard ONE SINGLE THING from Trump addressing the massive corruption in the entire body Politic and what to do about it. And have no reason to believe that anyone voted into the current matrix will make a dime’s worth of difference, no matter their intentions (which we can never be sure of anyway if the SCOTUS judges recommended by the Heritage Foundation are anything to go by – to give just one little example).
Wittingly or not, Trump is now controlled opposition. The longer people wait for the next thing in the future which will solve it all (the QAnon hopium approach), that much longer it will take before the people start coming up with effective ways to withhold consent and turf out the current regime. It’s happening in dribs and drabs with brave citizens standing up to School Boards and suchlike but at this point most of it is too little too late. As Trump might tweet:
“Sad!”
“It was all hopium.”
“Hopium….”
“But one can only hope….”
“But let’s hope….”
“(the QAnon hopium approach)”
You should write a book about why hope is such a downer. The adversary loves us to lose hope as we become easy prey. We also lose in sports, in the workplace, in relationships, in war and so on. No hope, we lose.
Furthermore, BaronAsh . . . this is an ugly lie: “Wittingly or not, Trump is now controlled opposition.”
Well, I disagree with you about hope being a prerequisite for any achievement in sports, workplace etc. There’s a fine line difference between aspiration, ambition, determination, discipline etc. versus hope per se, but perhaps that’s just quibbling with words. Put another way: if you rely only on hope, you will end up being disappointed.
For example with Trump: if the Deplorables hope that he will magically fix everything – which many of them do, let’s face it – even though he wasn’t able to hold onto the Presidency and clean out the Deep State Aegean stables the first time around, indeed even lost his main Deep State antagonist in chief Flynn within one month of taking the oath, that hope will almost certainly lead to disappointment.
Ugly lie: “Wittingly or not, Trump is now controlled opposition.” It’s not a lie. It might be wrong or a delusion or a ridiculous thing to say, but it’s not a lie. It’s what I think; it’s an opinion. I think generally it’s a bad idea to impugn peoples’ honor because they have an opinion which doesn’t sit well with one’ own view.
In any case, I hope your hope serves you well. I’m done with it viz US politics. If something comes from the Arizona process I will be delighted. But I am expecting that it won’t work out somehow or that even if it does the results – in terms of what happens next – will fall far short of expectations.
In Revolver today the lead story is about how they are investigating everyone even remotely involved in Jan 6th except the (G-Man) leader of the Oathkeepers.
Like I said, a coup has already happened. The bad guys are already in charge. The Republic has already fallen. But because of hope, most people are unwilling and unable to see this it, let alone find proper ways to respond.
Now, why would they consider it DANGEROUS if there’s nothing we can do about a stolen election? ?
Nowhere in this video does Ward say anything about lowering expectations. The headline seems to point to that, but it’s never actually stated. I guess we wait and see.
Sundance is saying to lower expectations. His conclusion after seeing the video.
Read the agreement between AZ Senate and Maricopa County Supervisors. It’s self explanatory. Fann allowed the County to take control of the audit. They lost control of the narrative.
Republicans are the people eternally seeking the compromise, the middle ground.
Jeb! Bush..
Democrats are the people eternally convinced of their own moral sanctity, because they seek utopia.
The western world will die on this bleak rock.
RINOs are the controlled opposition of the left.
The left goes extreme, the right meets them in the middle.
You have a choice, move left faster, or take the slow approach with controlled opposition.
RINOs are weak, but they’re good at getting the voting base to accept perpetual defeat.
Demoralization is the strategy.
A guess but possibly the Legislature cannot conduct or execute only demand another agency do so.
I disagree.
The AZ audit presentation was scheduled for Fri. before this agreement was made.
The Presentation was never dependent on the router info. They have enough Proof of fraud without the routers.
Anything they get from the routers will be a bonus.
And, they “know” what’s on the routers, they have that info from another source. But, they need to get the information from the access point- the routers.
Now, what happens when the routers are either wiped or missing information? I know, another story and more people getting away with breaking the law.
Not how I read it at all.
Election integrity always starts with…”conspiracy theory”
A few lawsuits later, it ends with Uniparty agreement to live comfortably in a fictitious reality pretending not to know things. This has been the history of election integrity going back to HAVA, the help America vote act.
Purple fingers might end “all the confusion”…but the US is not advanced like Iraq, we’re still a developing country.
Shadegg is a John McCain doppleganger.
What a drag.
Too many people on this website cave to easily. They complain about how weak the Republicans without first looking in their mirror.
Huh ??? What have republicans done lately ?
Lol, yeah, did I miss something in 2018 and 2020? I guess we’re supposed to continually applaud the GOP surrender. That’s really being strong!
The parliamentarian opinion is crucial because it means the immigration provisions could not be included in an immense $3.5 trillion measure that’s been shielded from GOP filibusters.
Left vulnerable to those bill-killing delays, which require 60 Senate votes to defuse, the immigration language has virtually no chance in the 50-50 Senate.
It also comes with Republicans already signaling that they will use immigration, linking it to some voters’ fears of crime, as a top issue in next year’s campaigns for control of the House and Senate.
The issue has gained attention in a year when huge numbers of immigrants have been encountered trying to cross the Southwest border.
The GOP will use any and every issue that they see is attracting / energizing Republican voters, to design and pursue aggressive fundraising campaigns. The issue(s) featured in their fundraising solicitations and pre-election interviews will be milked for every dollar that can be conned and cajoled from their voters. But don’t ever expect those issues to be resolved via Republican-sponsored legislation.
Issues are ranked in order of how much fundraising they are estimated to be able to generate.
Solutions? GOP don’t need no stinking’ solutions. They just want your money.
WHY would either half of the Uniparty want to actually SOLVE a problem, when BOTH can milk it, as a cash cow, for both votes and donations, from their respective base?
They are called “wedge” issues, for a reason.
Gun control, abortion, immigration and entitlements have been “unresolved problems” for 20-30 years, and they all benefit, in the swamp, from the status quo.
And Hell will have frozen over, and the NHL be televising playoff games live from there, before they ever get one more penny of my money. Damn the lot of them. There aren’t ten pols in DC whose hand I would be willing to shake.
God help us, because being governed by this lot means our only hope is divine intervention.
They don’t need our money. They have the big alphabet corporate funded groups to support them.
But they want it ALL…We are nothing but slave labor to them.
Bingo! All I needed to see when the Arizona audit was occurring with their live streaming of the event, the constant updates from Kelly Ward, etc., etc. was my email in -box stuffed DAILY with Republican fund raising solicitations. It was then I knew the audit was nothing more than kabuki theater to keep the $$$ flowing to the deceptions.
To be fair, IMHO the Republicans who have spent the past several months working on this audit should rightfully be excluded from my and others criticism. They’ve actually been working FOR us, the Deplorables, and truth. They’ve been under unreasonable pressure from the Media, the GOPe RINOs and their Uniparty collaborators in the DemoCommie Party, not to mention the completely dishonorable Deep State.
I’m not talking about the Republicans performing the audit. I think it’s premature and reactionary to trash them before the results have been presented.
Exactly
Why would anyone want to stick their necks out for People that do nothing but trash their efforts when the Commies throw a wrench at them.
They have been fighting the Democrats in court since the start but they kept going forward to where we are today.
Those fighting for audits are the ONLY ones doing anything to help us.
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Yes – it never made sense why it was taking so long when Jovan Pulitzer says his method can forensically audit millions of votes very quickly. Then with the triple verified count they claimed they needed, come on man! And suddenly they need a “special master” – it is so disheartening. Maricopa County “caved”.
Now Fulton County GA being slow walked. Dammit, more ways to dishearten us and divert attention while taking our rights and destroying our children. Time to get off the couch and do something, no one is coming to save us
They are fighting the parliamentarian tooth and nail.
Look at Trump.
“LATELY”? The Republicons have been steadily, relentlessly screwing “their base” since at least 1964, that I am aware of.
“LATELY”,…sheesh!
MacDonough’s stance badly wounded their hopes of unilaterally enacting — over Republican opposition — changes letting several categories of immigrants gain permanent residence and possibly citizenship.
not an effing thing. fangs probably a fed. these “youre not holding the line if you call it out” guys have been wrong since calling out trump for his awful hires or kushner bullshit. then it was crooked ag fruitcake is a whitehat, then on and on and on and on, wait for barr, wait for durham, wait wait wait….
these people are frauds.
its not complaining its trying to stop the glaringly obvious raping by republicans over the last 30yrs.
I, for one, am working to pass Forensic Audit Resolutions of the 2020 general election throughout the GOP committees in my home state, which went blue. We’ve got 11 thus far.
If you’re not ACTING LOCALLY, you’re just Bitchin’ on a Bench.
Uh, what are you smoking? May I suggest you change your bong water or something? Merely the ones who have been paying attention know who the power brokers are and this situation stinks to high heaven of a cover-up! People like you expect others to fix a problem, is the actual problem! When “We the People” start to actually make demands instead of expecting elected officials to do it for us, then traitors like these can be held accountable! There are only two aspects in which all of this will change. 1. Real patriots stand up or 2. Wait until God unleashes his wrath. I will go with the latter because so far its all about bait and switch games from here on out! Got it?
Bingo.
I am not talking about those who are doing something. I am talking about those who whine, snivel and negatively cave.
I give a rats-ass what they have done or not done. It is very obvious to me, most elected Republicans are by and large Uni-party. Not something proven to be something I count on for anything furthering a Constitutional America.
Met as a reply to Mayflower Child
And fang, what has been done? Right? No one is being arrested. No one is in jail. Psaki still lies nonstop to the people, Biden the same. Mayorkas too. Heck, they are so not worried they just lie to Congress as easily as they lie to the people. Why? Because nothing has been done.
Yes, yes, the audit is complete. I am excited about that but until people are arrested, boot put on their neck, and they start giving up others…..this solves nothing. 1000’s of affidavits. Video of cheating….yet….nothing.
Until politicians, judges, and those people who are supposed to uphold the law start feeling afraid…they won’t do a thing because the crooks can pay them more.
Agreed,
So much negativity. Who said this would be easy.
Let us all do our bit, kinda like the Oliver video posted here yesterday.
“Give us the House, give us the Senate, give us the White House”. I am old, but some things I remember clear as a bell. Most aren’t caving, they just aren’t being gullible anymore, sometimes you can fix stupid, rare, but it can be done. Smelling the coffee is a beautiful thing.
Many (me included) get disappointed and demoralized with the feckless, cowardly behavior of those we have elected to protect our rights and interests. But like anything else in life that you want to accomplish dogged determination generally and ultimately brings results.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
The root of the problem is uniparty RINOS. They have not done anything constructive for many years and are why Democrats are a hair away from turning the country into pure one party rule.
Can’t say that I’m surprised because I’m not. I will never vote again. What’s the point if they are rigged? Had a feeling this would be the result especially after Mo Brooks spoke at the Trump rally.. That followed by the first time I saw Trump booed by his own supporters after he recommended this kill shot the government wants everyone to take.. I love Trump but that was a turning point for me and I’m sure many others.. The way I see it it’s going to take more than an election to save this country. It’s going to take a real Samuel Adams uprising and I hope it’s soon
Were they booing President Trump or booing the vaccine? He brings things up at his rallies all the time that people boo.
Trump is a man in his seventies.
Hard not to be a man set in the past.
How many many people in their seventies grasp the anarchism and anti-Americanism that infests the modern bureaucracy?
Trump assumed the bureaucracy and Democrat Party would get behind him, for the good of the country.
I’m in my sixties, and I’m staggered by the anarchism and anti-Americanism of the modern bureaucracy and Democrat Party.
To my eye, no Republican, no conservative, no patriot can succeed in the Washington of today. DeSantis must stay in Florida and provide a sanctuary for the right-thinking.
When the dust settles, but not until then..
Actually, I think PDJT knew EXACTLY what he was up against, with the Dems.
He was surprised at the Republicons not only not getting behind, as in supporting him, but in their deep involvement in the coup against him.
He was actually imploring Mitch, to end the fillibuster rule, so he could get his legislative agenda passed, not realising that his biggest enemy in the Swamp, was MITCH.
IMHO
“DeSantis must stay in Florida and provide a sanctuary for the right-thinking.”
This, I believe, is the correct way forward for the American patriots. We need to start thinking locally and acting locally. The federal elections are rigged beyond repair. The Democrat Party now has total and complete control over the federal government, and they are not going to give up their power peacefully. Right now our main focus should be on preventing red states from being taken over by the parasitic Democrat locusts and their illegal immigrant hordes. And then we need to start pushing for secession.
Those who sit and wait for the dust to settle, will deserve the ruins they inherit….
I could not agree with you more. We need red state sanctuaries. Until we clean out the corrupt government at the local and state levels, and push states rights ahead of federal corruption,
the presidency has little power. When Donald Trump was president, the government agencies
either ignored his directives or worked against them along with criminally make crap up to
get him impeached.
We need to completely ignore Fox, CNN, Facebook, Google, etc. and only use conservative
sites. Only shop at stores that support conservative thought or at least free will thinking;
no black lives matter or gay pride nonsense.
This will not change unless we cut off their funding source (us) and police our state and
local governments; starting with our school boards.
From what I saw they were booing exactly what he was saying which was
“You know what? I believe totally in your freedoms. You got to do what you have to do, but I recommend: Take the vaccines. I did it – it’s good,” he said.
And then after crowd booed he said
“That’s alright. You got your freedoms. But I happen to take the vaccine. If it doesn’t work, you’ll be the first to know. I’ll call Alabama say, ‘Hey you know what?’ but it is working. But you do have your freedoms.”
Like I said in my post I have always loved Trump but I didn’t agree with recommending a shot that anyone can look up and see is injuring and killing people. Mo Brooks said at the same rally to let the election fraud thing go and move on. I love America and our country is dying. That’s not negativity but fact and I pray for the day we take it back
Does anyone know, with certainty, exactly what vaccine Prez trump actually had?
Is there a possibility, however remote, that he didn’t actually get what people simply assume he received?
I read a lot of the comments, many of which are sometimes a little light on facts and heavy on the personal view of the poster (which is, I guess, how the human mind works).
Plus, I look it from half a world away, thus seeing it with a different set of eyes.
No I do not know which vaccine President Trump took. From what I understand because this is a trial the vaccines are different doses 10mcg, 20mcg, 30mcg and a placebo. Thats why there are varying degrees of reactions and disabilities and some people have no issues at all.. The patient receiving the shot does not know what does they received or even the ingredients in it. I do not think he was wrong in taking the vaccine if that’s what he wanted to do. It was his choice and we as Americans all should have the right to choose that was given to us by God not by government. I disagree with him not telling the truth about it. Not saying the side effects and deaths it has caused. I wish he would tell the truth and let people decide what’s right for them. Everyone even conservative politicians are not talking about the risks of this shot at all that I’ve seen but they are recommending people take it
My suspicion (conspiracy theory) is that elites were all given saline shots. their “vaccination” selfies were all theatre.
While at the same time probably taking hydroxycloroquine or Ivermectin.
Your theory may be true. At this point anything is possible. Adverse reactions are real and sometimes severe. Safe and effective is a lie
If Trump was infected with covid why would he then take a vaccine?
That’s correct.
He contracted COVID.
Then, his doctor administered shot(s) of monoclonal antibodies and he survived.
There’s no reason to take any shot, or wear any mask after you’ve had COVID.
Good point. But nobody knows what is in any given vaccine on any given day at any given location. Ever.
The flu is killing people too.
Yes the flu is killing people
My point was not about the people dying from Covid or the flu. It was about the dangers of the “vaccine .”
They were booing the vaccine but he goes around telling everyone how he is saving the world with his stupid vaccine. His stupid vaccine is a key problem for the world right now and he never seems to back off of that stupid effing vaccine bs.
Not voting is exactly what they want you to do. If you’re in a blue area that’s the point. Move to a *deep* red state with voter reform if you want it to count. Hate to say it but the communist demoralization is working.
I live in a red state and still voter fraud. I’m sure they don’t want conservatives to vote, you’re right. I’m not discouraging anyone else not to vote, I was just saying I will not participate in an election that is obviously a fraud
You’re right demoralizing does work when there are no consequences or repercussions for the people in power who break the law. Id die for my country but fake elections? Nope I’m done with that
It is coming right around the corner….my guess within the next two months.
I agree
My first disappointment was when PDJT indicated he would not be leaving the Repub party, and taking us with him, to form an America First party.
Since then, my disappointment that he continues to crow about “Operation warp speed”, and the Vax.
IMHO, he got rolled there, and fell into doing EXACTLY what they wanted him to do.
Love what he did with China, trade, defence, but once the Wu-flu was released, he got played.
If he can’t admit it, at least stop talking about it.
I agree with you. I think he did great things for America and like I said I have always supported him but when it’s wrong it’s wrong and as a nurse I assure you recommending this death shot is wrong. I too believe he tried with the pandemic but to brag about warp speed now is a bad idea when the PREP act is allowing doctors and hospitals to kill people with no repercussions AT ALL. I wish so much he would just tell the truth people in Healthcare see it and even people who are not see it. People are suffering. Like I posted before I pray for the day we have a Samuel Adams style uprising and then I hope things will change
Perhaps there is a method to his madness (to coin a phrase)?
Trying to wake people up from their sleep, in a backhand way?
Sometimes, from my point of view, it seems people in the US don’t always see the grass because the forest is way too thick – and are far too close to the action (or lack thereof), letting their ‘feelings’ rule their logic circuits.
Not unlike many people in Oz, I guess.
Perhaps you are right. I don’t know his methods. Like I said I’m not against him, I have always supported him. I only posted that about what he said about the vaccines was a turning point for me and that Mo Brooks who also spoke with him advised the audience to let this election fraud go and move on. I don’t think confidence in our elections will be restored by moving on as Mo Brooks suggested. I just wish they would tell the truth about this shot because it is injuring and killing people. As a nurse I see this. Anyone can look up the vares site and see for themselves. No one is receiving informed consent before taking this shot and that is against the Nuremberg Code
I am not bashing President Trump as I said I’ve always supported him and believe he did great things for America and the world
PDT needs to STOP talking about the vaccine, warp speed entirely and focus on the border, trade all the things that won him the presidency before. He is still getting terrible advise. I’m concerned.
I agree
Let’s face it: Trump is not the agent of change we need and want him to be. The sooner he is out of the picture the better.
Am afraid am beginning to feel that it’s not so much that he got rolled as that we got rolled. And Super Salesman Trump did the rolling. And Bannon continues. It’s all controlled opposition. But hopefully am wrong.
“I will never vote again… What’s the point if they are rigged? ”
I will never vote again… What’s the point if they are rigged? “
Hmm.. I am voting against the Democrats and for the person who has the best chance to win.
People have gone to jail for vote fraud in the past and I’m doing my part to send more in the future.
I did not encourage anyone not to vote. I said I will not vote again. You do what you think is right and so will I, that’s one of the greatest things about being an American we all have the freedom to choose
What happened to its our duty as Americans to vote? Every time I see a comment about
not voting, I think of the people in the Middle East who faced death in order to vote.
All those purple fingers.
What happened to our duty to overthrow a tyrannical government?
Win what? The Presidency? What good will that do?
TGP needs their trolls back. Missing you there.
We need to stop messing around with all this audit stuff and go straight to the Bill of Rights for our remedy. If we are relying on ANY government institution, including the Supreme Court, we are going to lose bigly. They are ALL corrupt – every single one. It’s time to get a move on to take this country back. It’s not going to be handed to us tied up with a bow – it’s going to be messy but if we truly want to save America we have to stop putting our faith in this audit and any other method except “throwing off the government” as outlined in the Bill of Rights. We have the authority – and the DUTY – let’s get on with it.
Absolutely. I agree with you completely. We must take our country back. Audits, Elections, Presidents are not going to solve this problem. We The People must take it back. It is so encouraging to hear someone who feels as I do. Thank you so much for your reply and may God bless you and may God have mercy on us all in the days that are coming. Those days are coming whether Americans choose to admit it or not
The people were not booing President Trump. They booed Mo Brooks for stating we should put the 2020 election (fraud) behind us.
You may want to go watch that again
President Trump is entitled to his opinion and so are you; however, your litmus test to give President Trump
your support is weak.
I have no litmus test for President Trump. You are wrong. Did you read my comments before making yours? I have always supported President Trump
It would seem we should be able to change the voting system another way. Not follow the uni-party suggestions. Maybe get your mail in ballot fill it out sign it and have it notarized. Before we turn it in take a picture and sent it to maybe– GETTER?? with your signature covered up but the notary showing. Getter could tabulate the vote of notarized signatures.
I’m just a retired mother of three adults. I have no experience with government–we pay our taxes follow the laws and keep our heads down. There has to be a better way to handle this before an audit is necessary. We need a way to take power away from those who don’t follow any of the laws and rules we all do on a regular basis. Any ideas?
I agree with your suggestions. In my opinion our main problem is those who count the votes. We all witnessed the ballot dumps from election night. All the procedures and laws in place did nothing to stop the fraud. I am at a loss as to how to fix it. The only thing I can see that will do it is to follow our founding documents and throw off this tyrannical government. I am open to suggestions because I truly don’t know the answer but I am heartbroke over what our leaders are doing to America
That matters not when they control the output of the machines, and that output is not dependant on the input of a ballot. The ballot is only needed to cover the “numbers” paper trail. They count ballots on their fake as heck audits.
Trump isn’t going to force anyone to take the vaxx and he isn’t going to withhold it. There is no other vehicle for other than business as usual.
Trump is in no position to withhold it or force it. He is no longer the President. My only point was I wish leaders such as President Trump would warn of adverse reactions when the are recommending the “vaccine.”
People should stop expecting politicians or other officials to tell them anything. It’s not Trump’s job to tell us about adverse reactions. It’s our job as free people to do that ourselves.
Oh, hell!
Tic-Toc’d, yet again.
There’s no point in voting. For schiffs and giggles in 2022, let’s print zillions of ballots and flood the drop off boxes. Let’s make a real farce of it.
That’s actually not a bad idea. The more absurd these faux elections become, the more people (including many on this site) might be likely to get off their behinds and actually do something constructive.
Saddam Hussein used to win Iraqi elections with 99.9% of the vote. Bad things befell his dissenters.
The Institutional Revolutionary Party (the PRI) in Mexico used to win every election with about 70% of the vote. I remember William F. Buckley applauding their evil genius. Sure, we have dissenters, but the supra-majority still back us.
Will the Democrats be wise enough to steal elections by reasonable margins? I predict no.
It’s a great idea except we would get busted. ( Murphy’s Law) and hung drawn and quartered.
Its an amusing idea, but only if you deny reality;
Antifa/Blm riots destroy cities, NO legal repercussions.
WE have a truly peaceful protest, they seed the crowd with agitators, and call it an insurection, and indefinetly detain people in solitary.
So, what do you think would happen, if any of “us” printed ballots by the hundreds, and stuffed drop boxes?
Probably get the death sentence.
I don’t know about that, if done skillfully like the Marxists. If it became an obvious contest simply as to who could hack the vote the best, I’m not sure it wouldn’t help that there was cheating on both sides. I doubt anyone would go to jail. . . . But yes, you can’t just do it like a bull in a china shop. It would require finesse, a lot of money, and thorough planning. . . . Not advocating this, but if things get bad enough (as they rapidly are) sabotaging the system is a legitimate weapon. Too many of us did too little for too many decades to now fight this with conventional weapons. That ship sailed. . . . Our only other hope now is prayer and/or perhaps legal military intervention.
I can’t help but wonder, when did we become the same British that our ancestors fought to secure our freedom from, when we formed this country nearly 300 years ago? I mean, honestly, we sit here complaining to authority that we no longer truly respect, while expecting nothing to change; we insist on playing by the book and refuse to break the rules, while the other side is following the lead of our great great however many times great grandparents who fought dirty, knowing it was the best way to win when the stakes were too great to allow for defeat . We say that we applaud the small rebellions we hear about, but until we are personally affected, we stay within the proscribed lines of civility. That isnt working, though. We can be like those Loyalists of old and lose everything we hold dear, or we can also channel our patriot ancestors, get down and dirty like the folks who stole the White House have done. We need to be willing to take the consequences for providing a future worth living for for our grandchildren, or we will end up just like those early Loyalists, either forced to face a future devoid of hope or, well, there is no ‘or’… We can’t go back to the home country because we’re already here, and there’s nowhere else to run to. So
“If it became an obvious contest simply as to who could hack the vote the best”…
You mean like 2016?
By Milley? This is not your father’s military.
SUPERB IDEA !!!
Eh no, I’ll still vote. They don’t want any of us to, this was a demoralization campaign. Stop giving in.
I’ll still vote. 20 times. Why not? Mail in Ballots. I mean heck, we were told in advance what they would do. Fair play at this point.
As long as the election vote-counting machines are rigged, voting is just a futile exercise.
Voting is a habit like the first cup of coffee in the morning.
Don’t care what others think about it.
I’m not giving up coffee or voting.
Voting is like prayers; some get answered nd some do not. However, it never stops praying.
that’s the only way to play. the insanity of the last number of years is right minded people trying to counter-argue the lefts narratives or “prove” the fraud and corruption by adhering to a strict by-the-book investigation. the deep state expects We The People to play by the rules and We The People oblige.
Republicans are sent to jail for fraud, no thanks.
So the Deep State has won by discouraging you and others from even bothering to oppose the corruption by voting against it. I guess the DS understands the psychology of dealing with weak-willed people – cheat them a few times and they give up without a fight.
These aren’t the attitudes that existed in the latter 18th century, else this nation never would have been established. Fixing this begins at the precinct level. Become a poll judge. Start somewhere, but start with actions.
This lady sounds like she’s trying to sell me a time-share unit
I did not see any reason given by Dr Ward for us to lower our expectations about the audit results. Am I missing something?
Yes. Who John Shadegg is.
Doesn’t matter who Shadegg is. The audit team gets access to the info on the routers to top off the mountains of evidence and proof of fraud they already have.
Not really. Unless she has the IQ of an earthworm, Kelly likely knows what she’s dealing with. She may be concealing her real feelings and intentions, trying to appear objective. We will see soon.
Not a surprise at all. Knew this would be the case.
Great. A Special Master who is a lawyer/politician with ZERO credentials related to the nature of the audit, but has gold plated credentials for corrupting the audit.
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EXCLUSIVE… Maricopa County Supervisor Steve Chucri Caught in Leaked Recording: The Maricopa County Voting Machine Company Audit and Recount – “Was Pretty BULLSH*T By The Way” (AUDIO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/exclusive-maricopa-county-supervisor-steve-chucri-caught-leaked-recording-maricopa-county-voting-machine-company-audit-recount-pretty-bullsht-way-audio/?utm_source=Gab&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Everyone knows where the dems stand on this election fraud, but it has been ALWAYS the repubs who hammer the final nail in the coffin. ALWAYS.
Yep. They’re good at it.
And that is with all of them going on the record to claim fraud occurred in 2016. So much so they had a panel in Congress over it.
So tired of these a$$h*les! Why do we allow these scum bags to continue unabated?
And don’t have hope in GA. Absolutely shit show with shit judge today.
Jeff Sessions. Bill Barr. John Durham. And Michael Horowitz. And John Huber. Ad nauseum.
Was Godot a lawyer?
What are you talking about? The judge gave a ruling that favors VoterGA. Not against it. In fact, the defense attorney lied multiple times and said there was an investigation- except there isn’t and that is what the 20 days are for…this was not crap but rather good. Not great but good.
From what I’ve read in emails from Wendy Rogers, Cyber Ninjas will be looking over this 3rd parties’ shoulder, assisting where they can and suggesting forensic approaches to obtaining data in event routers have been “wiped”.
The “Bad Guys” are in total panic and desperation. It is jail time for them. It is freedom and a Constitutional government for us.
Funny how you always interpret bad guy victories as “Bad Guys” are in total panic and desperation ?
It is how I see it. However, I don’t expect others see as I do. I see them being exposed and the people seeing them for what they are.
keep it up Fang, I am terribly skeptical that ‘we’ will win this battle, but I love your optimism; your comments give me hope.
The Fix Is In
If you needed another reason not to support John Shadegg as master. Then look at his friends, Mike Pence and Paul Ryan.
Dick Morris lends his support to Mike Pence as minority leader and John Shadegg as Republican whip: Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) represents the kind of politics that puts ideas ahead of cash and privilege. Electing a man with his kind of conservative principles would show that the Republican minority understands the frustration of their base voters who ejected them from the leadership.
John Shadegg is cut from similar cloth. As Rep. Paul D. Ryan (R-WI)—another rising GOP star—recently said, “[Shadegg] was one of the guys who got here in the ’94 Republican revolution and didn’t go native.”
Link to Article
In email this morning from Wendy Rogers, she stated the settlement was a win for the Senate and that Cyber Ninjas will be looking over the 3rd parties’ shoulders, making recommendations and also providing assistance with forensic approaches in the event data was “wiped” from the routers.
I knew the endless delays means like everything else, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN, NOTHING WILL CHANGE, only when we get out by the hundreds of millions and surround them so they can not escape, they regret doing this to us, legs and arms are broken so they remember, and they get put on trial for crimes against us is when it ends. Until then, they are so embolden they think hundreds of thousands can control hundreds of millions.
They seem to be doing a pretty good job of it. Always on the attack while we talk talk talk.
For addressing HUBRIS, nothing beats tar and feathering. It is MAINLY a punishment of HUMILIATION, much like the “public stocks”.
Its certainly an appropriate starting point, for all in Congress, including Staff.
Or, just expand the Capital fence, to include all the district, and the 5 (richest in the country) counties surrounding d.c.
Make it a wall, 20-30 feet tall, with guard towers every so often, and only then inform them “Oh, you actually thought this was for YOUR protection, lol.”
Not sure why Sundance deletes my comments that he thinks challenge his articles. For the 3rd time…this morning i received an email from AZ Senator Wendy Rogers with update on the settlement adding that Cyber Ninjas will be looking over the 3rd parties shoulders, willing to assist where they can and aiding with forensic approaches to recover data should the routers have been wiped.
Please stop. If you truly believe you’re being censored, take a trip to another site. In other words, your challenges here won’t go far with this community.
Just a heads-up: I’ve encountered this same comment three times now, so maybe your PC isn’t refreshing properly after you post? Just a guess
JMO, wow, the level of mind reading that is being presented as facts this evening is down right amazing.
It is reminiscent of the interviews done immediately after future President Trump had finished his speech after his ride down the escalator when he announced his candidacy. The never-trumper GOPe interviewees were the toast of DC for their gloom and doom forecasts of the failed Donald Trump presidential campaign before its first day had even ended.
Arizona, the only state to start and finish a forensic audit, is being piled on by, of all people, so-called MAGA warriors. And this is even before their results have been presented.
Now, after discounting the fact that many of these doubting thomases are really interloping coup plotters, it still leaves a number of citizens who should allow Arizona to present their results before expressing their opinions of said results.
We are proud of what the Arizona volunteers and selected pols have accomplished to-date and they have earned the right to have their results judged on the facts, not hearsay. Remember, they have been under a gag rule.
It is only until Friday of this week.
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Thanks, Cactus, could not agree more. See my comments Below (10:47 PM)
Cactus, I’m looking forward to seeing what comes out of this. Remember Ecclesiastes 9:11. God sometimes makes great things happen from small beginnings. Time and chance happen to us all–including the ‘Rats.
Would love for AZ to present their findings. Why don’t they get on with it?
To drive you crazy….
Ohh, trust me, my Expectations are and have been LOWERED for Years. I’ve watched The Obvious be swept under the rug so many times I can’t count them.
FU Kelli W.& FU all RINO”S. We’re on on own…. lets Rock and Roll!
Hey, you may want to hook up with Tulip Moran – you seem to have similar strategies.
“FU Kelli W.& FU all RINO”S. We’re on on own…. lets Rock and Roll!”
No tats on any of these boys. Anybody make anything of that?
The FBI will show up, not sure about anybody else.
Unconscionable that she has not read the agreement. Otherwise she would know that the Special Maser is in control, not the Senate, in regard to the machines and router logs. They would have been better off forgetting the machines and router logs and releasing the ballot audit. Question now is whether really release the ballot audit results on friday or be persuaded to wait for the County’s crooked machine/router inspection reports. AZ senate dii good until now. They caved to the Maricopa County Sups. I really hope I/m wrong but just read the agreement.
finchem has also been running the line for the last two months that the “audit” is “incomplete” and will never be completed because they didn’t get all the random things they asked for (and didn’t enforce the subpoenas to obtain them).
Seeing him provide “outs” is not a good look at all.
Even bannon picked up on that one.
I read the Agreement Friday night. And I don’t even live there.
Because it’s THAT important.
These people are lightweights if she didn’t even make the effort to read what they just did.
The lawyers in the Georgia audit got rolled today too.
The pillow fight squad.
Just watching segment of Warroom. Republicans must not have good lawyers. Sends a signal folks. This audit stuff is just hopium. NOthing about the election is going to change. They cheated and they are getting away with it, with much support of the GOPe. So yeah, time to focus on stopping the cheating in 2022. Hope the Republicans can find enough good lawyer with cajones.
Of course nothing is going to change; the window for that closed on January 6 (actually the wee hours of January 7) when Congress certified the presidential election for Biden. All these audits can do is document that there was, indeed, fraud. And one hopes, lead to changes that will foreclose it in the future.
When a report is delayed and delayed some more you can be sure the curroptocrats have doctored the findings and it’s going to be a big nothing. The GOP is full of traitors. Unfortunately those that aren’t traitors are mostly clueless about how to deal with these sleaze bags.
The Arizona Fix Is In
Mike Pence, Paul Ryan, John Shadegg, The Three Amigos Salute
If you needed another reason not to support John Shadegg as master. Then look at his friends, Mike Pence and Paul Ryan.
Dick Morris lends his support to Mike Pence as minority leader and John Shadegg as Republican whip: Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) represents the kind of politics that puts ideas ahead of cash and privilege. Electing a man with his kind of conservative principles would show that the Republican minority understands the frustration of their base voters who ejected them from the leadership.
John Shadegg is cut from similar cloth. As Rep. Paul D. Ryan (R-WI)—another rising GOP star—recently said, “[Shadegg] was one of the guys who got here in the ’94 Republican revolution and didn’t go native.”
Link to Article
ROFLMAO, wouldn’t it be great to see this as the national salute for the FU Joe Biden fans at sporting events?
Respectfully disagree.
Ward NEVER seemed to be “in the loop”, but rather liked showing off every room of her home, all 50 of them, and why the hell would she be in the loop? She’s an ever-grinning grandstander. Not a discrete operative, not a fighter. She’s Just a talker who wants attention.
She also did not appear to ever have her oars in the water. Didn’t appear to be making anything happen. That anything was done in AZ was a matter of the people of AZ, nothing to do with the leadership of AZ.
Ward is a typical GOP “leader” pro tip: NONE of them lead anything anywhere, ever.
Extra special pro tip: Beyond the grassroots, It’s a freaking SOCIAL CLUB, that’s it.
As for the current moaning and groaning, and naysaying, can’t you impatient weenies hold your negativity until at least Friday at 2:00 PM? 4 freaking days.
Bear in mind, that the AZ citizen-driven canvassing efforts have already borne fruit, and that the Senate’s preliminary report was quite damning as well. (270,000 seems to be the number I recall reading).
Who knows whether the fool in all this is Shaddegg, himself, who is stepping into a trap?
Perhaps he is already deeply implicated and by giving him the position to attempt to cover his tracks, he will commit further readily apparent crimes. If he fails to produce the uncorrupted evidence he is under contract to produce, then HE owns it. I cannot imagine someone more deserving to own this cluster fk than him. (Since Mc Stain is no longer around)
If the data is corrupted, what does that tell us? That’s spoliation of evidence under the typical legal view.
And, who cares if the legal process functions or not? The only court of any value now is the court of public opinion.
For those who bellyache regarding the recent delay “due to covid” Consider this: Have you never considered the idea that dropping the AZ. results at the height of the Afghanistan FUBAR would have been Strategic? It would have been the height of folly to have dropped it then.
Additionally, could it be that the routers are a head fake, and that the splunk logs are actually way more relevant and less corruptible? They likely are.
Could it be that the count and ballot/ envelope investigation has already proven beyond any doubt that significant fraud occurred?
Could it be that those running this audit have actually been running an outstanding and strategic operation?
It very well could be, because clearly, Ward is NOT involved with running anything but her grinning over-whitened mouth.
Fann gave us a date for a prelim report, and she delivered. She gave us a date for another report this Friday, and I expect that she will deliver again.
Friday afternoon will tell the tale. Why not keep your cool for a few days, rather than prognosticating failure, huh guys?
“She’s an ever-grinning grandstander.”
à la John Solomon.
I agree lurker. Is it not enough to just wait for the report and then make comments if necessary?
I have a feeling the “audit report” will be just like the many IG Horowitz reports we breathlessly awaited. Full of meat on the inside, sandwiched between an executive summary and recommendations that amount to “Nothing to see here!” and “Ethics training for everyone!”
Look, I get it Jeff… We’ve been betrayed so many times that we are reflexively afraid to expect a functioning, worthwhile truth with accompanying action. Snap out of it! Defeatism brings only more defeat.
If things are not up to your expectations then do something about it. Moping about is not helping anyone. Get engaged in winning for once. A people cooperatively pushing back, exposing the liars and their lies is a powerful thing. And many are stepping up and risking their all to get the truth out.
OTOH those who sit around predicting the worst outcomes are already defeated and only serve to demoralize others who might otherwise have taken up a positive role in opposition to tyranny. It is also disrespectful of those who have and are standing up and sticking their necks out on our nation’s behalf.
I currently see our opposition flailing badly despite being in power. I see people of strong moral fiber standing up against tyranny across the globe. The curtain has been pulled back, and I see tyrants getting worried and making unforced errors because the people are waking up to the bullshit and pushing back hard.
These are very good signs that this nightmare is going to be turned on it’s head. Yes, it’s a new thing, winning, but we best embrace it and breathe life into it, because our future depends on it.
If you still believe everything is for naught, then please do us all a favor- go away and quit demoralizing the rest of us.
I say this because I have been through the fire, and find the defeatist attitude loathsome. I could have easily ignored the problems or quit as others did. I feared for my life, my family, and home, but someone had to take a stand. Two of us held firm through long months of intimidation, name-calling, and threats from every quarter.
Eventually with hard work and persistence, on election day we gained a third supporter, and very positive change rapidly occurred and rippled across the nation. The Feds who had resisted us were finally forced to do their jobs. Our city and many others benefitted greatly because two hardheaded patriots would not back down.
This an example of Extreme Federalism on the local level just as Sundance currently promotes.
In conclusion, Jeff, had I shared your philosophy, I would never have even engaged.
Exactemundo. They have what they need, the info from the routers is gravy.
After listening to Kelli Ward video, I don’t see any reason to lower expectations or to raise expectations.
She looks and talks like an honest person and aims for the truth. I can’t ask for more than that.
I was wondering what was up with the threat to the County Supervisors to cut off their funding unless they provided access to voting machine data. The supervisors caved and that is very good news.
Does she play the bagpipes?
And wear a white hat
On March 22nd, 2021, Steve Robinson and Shelby Busch from We The People AZ Alliance met with Steve Chucri to push for Maricopa County’s cooperation with the Arizona Senate for a full forensic audit.
These brave Patriots have now decided that it is time to release the tapes from that conversation to help defend the audit report from the the county officials’ smears and lies.
Chucri was the only Supervisor willing to meet with residents of Maricopa County to discuss serious election concerns, which he shared. He seemed to agree with the majority of voters who were calling for an audit.
Throughout the meeting, Chucri ripped his colleagues for not standing up for voting rights or cooperating with the Senate.
Chucri even said that the county’s audit, led by the companies that certified the equipment, was “bullsh*t” and speculated that his colleagues were afraid of an audit because their races were so close:
“You know what I think it was, in hindsight. Gates got scared because he barely won. And Jack got scared because he only won by 200 votes, and then there was an audit and a recount, which was pretty bullshit, by the way. What would happen in those two races? And that is way too self-serving.”
Listen Here:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/exclusive-maricopa-county-supervisor-steve-chucri-caught-leaked-recording-maricopa-county-voting-machine-company-audit-recount-pretty-bullsht-way-audio/
Layman’s translation: The fix is in.
Shadeggs justification for his support for illegal immigration is transparently bogus.
Just after sb1070, (the Az law that was supposed to hold EMPLOYERS criminally responsible for hiring illegals) a poll was taken, of LEGAL Hispanics in Az., and 70 percent were IN FAVOR of the law.
So, his justification that a strong support for immigration law enforcement would COST the Republicans “Hispanic votes” is pure hogwash.
It might cost them big $ donations, from C o C types, but NOT votes from LEGAL hispanics, who are plenty tired of competing with ILLEGAL workers.
Yes, I’m afraid we are about to get SCREWED, again.
Dutch, OK, but I’ll add: Republican electeds are scared to death of being called “Racist”. Most of them have nothing clanking in that ol’ sack down there. Definitely no Brass, and yes, in bed with COC.
That was his view in 2008 It was the Gospel of the Bush-GOP at the time
I find it irrelevant to the task at hand
So Maricopa ‘joins’ the process after endless delay and the result will be that they can’t find all the routers etc. then months will pass & the audit is incomplete and even when the deep state coupsters lose they eke outa win. Release the audit in two parts. Release what is complete now and add a supplementary report after the routers etc are audited. Time is a critical commodity the GOP never seem to appreciate or use.
GOP, the Party of Stupid. I’ll be skipping over the CTH on anything “audit” unless the headline is truly a win. Tired of this hopium and continued disappointment.
So over this bullschitt. If you believe Trump was anything but the swamp you are gravely mistaken. All politicians are evil!
Paul Ryan, is that you?
So AZ turns out to be another nothing-burger ploy to grift by politicians, and play make-believe that they’re doing the “RIGHT THING” to convince voters to keep voting for them.
I wish I could say I was surprised, but this was obvious from the start. These people had a chance to do something when it mattered — before Jan 6. They did nothing. Nothing they do now will matter.
Stop voting for them.
The problem isn’t the people voting for them. The elections are pre-determined so the actual act of voting is only to fool people into thinking that they have a voice.
Yo, FUBAR, your name suits you well.
You must be a leftist, as you are reinventing history.
AZ. sent an alternative slate of electors to D.C. on Jan. 6th, and if memory serves, they also were among the states asking the US Senate for an extension of time of about 2 weeks to re-confirm their count.
Meanwhile, all you have done is share your ignorance.
Yo dawg, I hear you like electors. The ones picked as alternates in AZ carried no official endorsement by legislative action in the state of AZ. None. Zip. Nada.
Don’t believe me. Believe the Republican AZ Speaker Bowers, or Douchey the governor.
https://www.azleg.gov/press/house/54LEG/2R/201204STATEMENT.pdf
The Republican politicians in that state did nothing that mattered. NOTHING. Nothing they are doing now matters one whit beyond an eye to fundraising and trying to keep their jobs.
Just because I can see the truth doesn’t make me a leftist. Stop being a sucker for this grift.
Traitors before enemies, dawg.
“Shadegg was a close professional ally of Senator John McCain”
That’s all I need to know.
Caleb,
I agree. I have absolutely nothing good to say about McCain or any of his living family members. He should have been tossed out of the Senate when the Keating 5 scandal broke.
Unlike Jill Kelli is a real doctor.
The fix is in.
So, the question remains…why is someone with Shadegg’s political background being chosen as Special Master? Of course, we can speculate that this choice is just another indication that the powers that be in AZ have decided to set up the audit to fail. On the other hand, is there a possibility that the evidence of election corruption so overwhelming that even Shadegg cannot overcome it? Those watching this audit and waiting for its results are fairly au fait with the process, what is being looked for, etc. It’s very possible that even Shadegg’s politics cannot stop the avalanche that might occur.
lets hope so
But why insert him into this process in the first place? It doesn’t make sense and if it doesn’t make sense, it’s propaganda. So the media can say a “Republican” blah blah blah.
Got to keep on keepin on though. Can’t quit. Sometimes it takes a crisis and we have a crisis. All summer of 2020 we seethed and thought we’d get em at the ballot box. And we did in many cases, red wave, except Trump lol. I only heard one “America First” Senate candidate say he wouldn’t support McConnell in the Senate as leader and that was Eric Greitens. The others whiffed, like Larry Elder and voter fraud
PTrump said this recently……..was he giving us hope?
WATCH: Trump Drops A Bombshell — Says ‘I Believe They Are Going to Decertify The Election’ – enVolve (en-volve.com)
PS…..I just do not believe decertification is even possible
Hey Sundance, what if Shadegg has been implicated as a participant in the fraud, and is functioning here as a cooperating witness?
Stranger things have happened. These guys always do whatever is necessary to save their own asses.
Shadegg is Uniparty. Get involved in the election process in your county as it is all we can do to push back. Block people like Shadegg at every opportunity.
I knew the would F it up.
“Senate leader Karen Fann is celebrating Shadegg’s appointment as Special Master”
“The Democrats are praising him”
“The Senate won’t get anything that the Special Master doesn’t approve”
Yeah… THAT doesn’t sound good.
BOHICA
The Fix Is In. I live in Arizona…Shadegg is Arizona’s version of Paul Ryan.
Just “Special Master” sounds creepy as hell
tote ‘dat barge…
Really? Have you kept up with him in the 11 yrs since he left the House?
Strategy session? Brad Raffensperger is a scheduled participant.
Also scheduled for Friday:
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Brad Raffensperger, the Canadian marxist transplanted as a Georgia Rino…
don’t even bother
Audits should be a regular part of every election just like banks and many other organizations. Who would do business at a bank or an accounting firm or legal firm that refuses audits? Same question for all audit deniers.
I think the BoS knows there is trouble and needs this guy to protect them any way he can knowing there will be court cases. He will try to obfuscate but he can’t simply lie. He will likely present the truth in a way that establishes a defense for the supervisors so that punishment will be mitigated.
This will be the beginning of defense for many in many states. My guess it will consist of willful ignorance and “oops, my bad”, claimed errors and lots of blaming others. Likely SlowJoe already sent out the memo.
The only thing that will change elections in the future is lots of pain for the uninformed 30% of population that really doesn’t vote. Jimmy Carter inflicted enough that even with a third party running, Reagan won.
SlowJoe is well on his way to inflicting that pain.
Nah, more in your face squelching the truth attempts.
At some point, someone(s) is going to have to go and a drag the criminals out by their heels.
Now a Special Master. What non-sense is this? Get out in front of all this interference and publish the report in its entirety to the public so that all the questions will be answered without redaction. This is exasperating.
shadegg and mccain both likud mossad assets.