Those who follow the deep weeds of GOP politics already knew this was part of the plan. The DeceptiCon wing of the DC Uniparty is anticipating the DOJ, MSM and intelligence apparatus destroying President Donald Trump in the next 24 months to prevent his reemergence.
Meanwhile, the professionally Republican are framing a specific set of candidates to counter the MAGA coalition. Former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton, South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, South Carolina Senator Tim Scott and former VP Mike Pence have all been put on the approved candidate board by the hedge funds and Wall Street multinationals who control the party financing from the top down.
AXIOS – “Mike Pence is positioning himself for a 2024 presidential run by aiming to raise a whopping $18 million this year, Axios has learned.” (read full article)
Haley, Pence, Noem, Scott and Cotton are the establishment favorites. Texas Senator ‘Lyin’ Ted Cruz remains seemingly useful as the guy to split the field.
However, as polls continue to show, Donald Trump and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis are the top two preferred candidates of the MAGA-minded republican base.
The MAGA polling against the interests of the professionally Republican is the reason why Wall Street keeps the buffet of crustless finger sandwiches full for RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel. As long as she is fed and keeps her weekly spa appointments, McDaniel is happy to do nothing to support any grassroots effort that might end up with stronger voting integrity.
…How ’bout that California RNC effort?
Remember, just because the buttons on the RNC vending machine say Coke, Diet Coke, Sprite, Fanta, Root Beer etc., that doesn’t mean the slots inside are filled with anything except diet ginger ale. Continuing to put your dollar in the same machine and hitting any button will only give you frustration and an endless supply of diet ginger ale. Just sayin’….
#neverPence
He wasn’t willing to go to the mat for Trump and us when it mattered. A total fake.
Its WAY worse than that — treasonous, traitor… we WILL know soon enough.
Let’s be real here fellow treepers. Imagine this, 2024 election comes and JoeBama administration has found unimaginable ways to extraordinarily drive this country into the depths of third world status. Even democrats and dominion machines will vote for traitor Pence.
Hopefully, “even democrats” will vote for someone else in the primary.
Not me.
And voting HARDERER is a losing prop anyway.
I’m with you there — after the “war” in whatever form it takes… then vote if its a “viable” thing.
Keep your rifle close at hand — defensive FIRST but when necessary to banish tyranny and tyrants and find “new guards” for liberty, offense will be needed.
This is our right and our duty.
His weakness was obvious when he was Governor
Not me. Not us.
No.
It seems money is more important than votes in elections. They don’t even pretend to want your vote only your dollars. Of course, it is getting so your money is not be all that important either unless you’re trying to put in new blood. I have only given in the past to the Trump campaign through buying hats. This year so far I have given to three new people. I have a fixed income and that’s not much. However, my votes will follow that route. If there are no new people for me to vote for then I plan to vote against rather than for. You seeing this Manchin?
I have been receiving fundraising emails from Pence almost since the day Biden stole the presidency.
Block them or remove yourself from their email list.
I’ve removed my name from all GOP mailing lists. I am about to remove my name from my Senators mailing list also…he/they are worthless criminal RINO shills. I am not interested in what they have to say about anything.
Do not answer the polls, they throw that away and take your money. They do not care what you think. I use their stamp if its available and put bright post-a notes all over the return material telling them I will NEVER give to the RNC or any candidate NOT endorsed by Trump. I do not even give to Faith & Freedom Coalition since I am not SURE where the money is going. Best to give directly to the candidate or Donald J Trump.
Faith & Freedom Coalition sent me two splashy mailings about some conference they are holding this fall. Mike Pence is one of their featured speakers. Sorry, F&F: No more $$$ for you from this chump.
same me…
me too until I typed “stop you are a traitor”
None from pence but bi-weekly from Ronna
Seriously, who does he think is going to vote for him. Sounds more like a money making scheme to me
Someone Please Tell Mike Pence That He Will Never Be President
https://level.medium.com/someone-please-tell-mike-pence-that-he-will-never-be-president-debc4ad1035d
Pence is too sanctimonious. Never liked him. A ” my poop doesn’t stink” kind of guy. We need a fighter not afraid to take a punch and we know who that is.
That is all. Over and out.
Yes he has the charm of Mitt Romney and the looks of Hillary.
Another bad choice PDT made…I couldn’t believe, and was so disappointed he chose Pence. Even his wife was sanctimonious.
He was put in the same position Ronald Reagan was put in with the other traitor G H W Bush whom sired another traitor named G W Bush.
yes, they both had minders.
The difference was Trump knew and operated around it while Regan didn’t know and got shot in addition.
why PDJT did not “resist” he knew about him as weakling….
In the end there was almost no one that Trump could trust. They almost all flipped.
And, by extension, there is no one left we can trust.
I’d crawl over broken glass to vote against this traitor.
When the stolen election, the coup plotters and all the rest of the deep State criminals are finally rounded up and hung from a trees I was hoping Pence would be in that group.
Don’t. The fraud in the previous election hasn’t been taken care of yet so you will cut your hands and knees for no purpose.
I won’t be voting in national elections until they’re fixed. I’ll focus on local and state races. And since I’m not a Uniparty member there’s really nobody to vote for anyway.
Apparently you do not live in Brian Kemp / Stacy Abrams’ Georgia. Our voting system is on par with the federal system: Broken, corrupted, and sold to Dominion’s patrons. That’s how we were blessed with Raphael Warlock and Jon Assoff. Democrat-sponsored billboards flashed the message, “Finish The Job” right before the special election. Well, they did finish it nicely, did they not.
I did have to flee my home state so I know how you feel. I’m sorry.
Nope — not finished: we just closed the only political phase. We are now in the entry of the cold/hot war phase and how long the “cold psyop” phase lasts is the central question.
The hubris of this man. He could have legally sent states that had two sets of electors back to those state’s state legislatures to determine which were valid. Now he wants our votes? 80% of Republicans feel election was stolen, more?
That fly on his head during Harris debate was telling. Evil duplicitous pos.
The financing is not the part I am worried about. Trump never got party support or real funding last time and he prevailed. The nationwide election fraud organization rand by the CIA/FBI/NSA/DC Cabal/DNC/GOPe is where the danger is.
The 4th branch. We have got to pull their pants down for all to see. We have 13 months before Nov 2022 to do it.
Technically their pants have been down for a while but your point of 13 MORE months is still worth acknowledging and considering. I am.
The Republican Party will back him. No matter who else tries to run, he’ll be their choice. He delivered the final blow of their collusion to rid themselves of Trump. Now, they expect their “base” to all the fall in line as in the past and do what they’re told like good little peasants. And many will. They’ll cry, “We have to support him! Just think of the alternative!” while in complete denial that he is no better than the Dem candidate because they’re ALL part of the corrupt Uniparty and take their orders from the same masters. I knew that many would still be desperately clinging to their illusions that the GOP actually represented them and just needed a few tweaks at the polls to finally do what is needed to defeat the Left, but I didn’t realize it would be so, so many. I had hoped for a massive walk-away from the party, but no, they’re all still there, shouting “We’ll get ’em next time” as fervently as ever. It’s sad and embarrassing. I can’t even be angry anymore at this weakness of mind and spirit. They’ve been crushed so many times, they don’t know any other way to be and even thinking about make a leap toward something new scares them. I’ve given up on them. I didn’t want to give up on them, but anyone still talking about voting for ANY Republican outside of a few outliers like DeSantis is too far gone to save.
I’m afraid you’re right. In my county, there is still a GHW Bush shrine in the party office.
Depends on the year of the Malibu ??
If they cram Hailey or Pence down our throats for 2024 I will do something I have never done, I will not vote in 2024.
I voted libertarian in 2008, I couldn’t swallow the bile in my throat enough to vote for mcshame!!!
In hindsight I wish I had had your insight.
OH, you’ll coward out and vote for no one, eh? Boy, that’ll really change things. Very brave of you.
Oh, don’t worry, someone will cast his vote for him.
I will NEVER vote for Pence. ! He is responsible for Biden – the Destroyer in Chief – being in the WH! If Pence is the GOP nominee our country will be doomed anyway so it won’t matter who we vote for!
I do not consider fighting a civil war under conditions where Pence steals the vote “doomed”. I would say that the “fighting phase” is called for. Loosing a civil war to these guys is potentially “doom”.
So don’t lose if forced to fight.
Calling someone a “coward” for refusing to make a choice between Mike Pence and Kamala Harris (Biden won’t be running in ’24) is ridiculous. Will voting for either of them change things? Especially when all general elections going forward will be fraudulent anyway?
Your comment = insanity on full throttle Bluto: how can you (at this point) claim that voting has any impact what-so-ever on electing honorable/decent/intelligent candidates. The most you can accomplish potentially is highlighting fraud/vote-steals. The worst you can do is confer legitimacy to a selected-for-you derpstate puppet.
You tell me and anybody else reading here “HOW” you propose withdrawing your consent — or alternatively tell me where our past legitimate leaders left instructions for “when the government loses consent/legitimacy.
Grumpy, I did the same thing with McCain and George Bush Jr. I had no one to vote for. I just went in voted for down ballot folks.
Good plan. But don’t worry, just withdraw and do nothing. That’ll show ’em. Some cheater will probably vote in your name anyway.
Talk about NOT having your finger on the public pulse. I agree with newtreeperPA, #neverPence!
Ya think…
Well gee golly. What a surprising poll result. /s
This Hoosier thinks Pence’s political career as an elected official is dead and all the kings horses and all the kings men will not be able to put it back together again.
Save your money Mike….you and your gang are hidden RINO’s that were untrue to your oath while VP. BE GONE.
Hahahahaabahababa
Just another splitter planning to use the fund raising to channel the money back to himself somehow. Election campaigns are a FOR PROFIT activity for career politicians, their friends and their families.
I believe I won’t be the first nor the last to tell Pence to f’k off.
Just the mere thought…
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Good luck with that sparky, he’s DOA just like Nikki “ban the Confederate flag” Haley!!!
I wonder if Pence will have circles in his rallys?? hummm
circle and fenced to not be attacked …
Pence hasn’t a chance. If the media/uni-party complex somehow catapulted him to the top of the Republican ticket, it would “ruin” the party. Donald Trump became the front runner in 2016 because many of us had a “burn the house down” attitude toward what we saw as a thoroughly corrupt Republican establishment and he was the designated spoiler. Five years later, we’ve seen the corruption up close and know that it’s not merely fecklessness or “not knowing how to govern when in the majority” – the Republicans are the feint from the right, positioned to make patriots believe that they ALMOST had it this time, and, with more grift…that is…donations sent in, better luck next time. And against many of our expectations, Donald Trump upset that entire paradigm and exposed the Potemkin construct of the alleged two-party system. He was what we used to think we were getting when we voted Republican.
This time, we would allow the party to implode. A pox on both their houses. If we’re going to be saddled with a one-party oligarchy, then it won’t be behind a system of smoke and mirrors, it’ll be out front, as it should be. At least then, the lines would be clearly drawn. Then, let the chips fall where they may.
I’ll vote in the next election but it won’t be for any of those listed in this article.
If need be it will be a write-in for Trump or Desantis.
Same with me. It doesn’t matter who is on the ticket other than Trump. Whoever it is, I will write in “TRUMP”
“$18 million” ???
Why “18” milion? Why not 20, or 15, or any round number?
I find the target very strange: is there perhaps a campaign-finance law with this magic number in it?
His campaign managers may be attempting to attract interest among conservative Jews.
enough …for his retirement……
Ok…here goes: the only viable option (at this point) IMO is Gov DeSantis. PDJT is a liability. He has the vision….but makes too many bad decisions; too many mistakes in judgment. Do your homework….
I will concede his foreign policy vision and decisions moved the country onto a much more secure path; domestically, his Presidency was an abject failure. No matter how profound the opposition – he failed.
PDJT was the point man at a crucial inflection point in our history. He fought bravely and “represented.” In the end, he did not stem the tide; he did not succeed or even disrupt the internal dynamics. His value function has been serving as the symbol of resistance; a voice that shined a light on the real corruption deeply rooted in all elite classes and institutions. Personal flaws undermined his efficacy at crucial moments.
We need a younger, charismatic, controlled voice. Someone who has a comprehensive grasp of all the dimensions of power, forges alliances and thinks strategically while executing operationally/tactically. Someone who puts the internal threats on their heels -someone with the ability to completely alter the dynamic. PDJT should hold an elevated role in the overall counter-revolution. He is not, IMO, the person to lead it.
Fire away.
Phillips… VSPDJT had so many forces working against him – including Very Corrupt VP Pence! Trump couldn’t fire everyone so I don’t agree.
No argument on the magnitude of opposition.
He could have cleaned house early on but elected not to – mostly because he did not understand what he was up against and how the game was played.
All due respect, firing everyone is a straw man argument.
Stakes are too high. As PDJT would put it “We need someone who can win” – with some permanence. Where are we today?
Nikki Haley is radioactive. The rest are not ready for prime time in the White House, my opinion. The Democrats are going to find someone they can get behind this time, and muster up some enthusiasm unlike last time. And then the Republican MAGA nation are going to back either Trump or DeSantis, but then what happens? The Deep State decides it won’t be either of the people’s choices, it will be someone else that they choose, and because we haven’t fixed 2020 yet, the fix is STILL IN! When the election results get called (for Pence), the Democrats and the Republicans are going to be sitting there looking at each other: WTF happens after that, I hesitate to say, it won’t be pretty, I’m sure.
I am on the Larry Elder train at this point. Whether top of ticket or VP, Larry Elder. If the GOPe wants Tim Scott, Elder/Scott is fine with me at this point in time. Personally I do not think we will have a country in 2024, but anything can happen in upside-down world.
DeSantis as a VP candidate is a waste, we need him to stay at the Governor position for his full term. We have a zero functioning Federal Government and wasting DeSantis would be awful for the State level. He needs to hold the Florida line for everyone.
As much as I loved President Trump’s first 3 years, his plandemic handling and ushering in of this medical tyranny is too much for me. I know it is an unpopular view because he really did us well for 3 years. President Trump needs to focus upon the grassroots momentum, holding rallies and raising money. We are in the medical tyranny fight of our lives due to his emergency authorization in early 2020. If he is the candidate however, I am all in so please do not take me as anti Trump.
We now know we have been under a military coup on behalf of China. I know from my 2 years of fraudulent voting research 25 years ago as well as watching recent goings on that pretty much all of Government is corrupt and comprised.
Therefore Larry Elder, with focus upon the State and Local levels
In California blacks voted 4:1 to retain Newsome over Elder. We will never have a black president as long as this racism exists in America.
Who ran the pandemic from the White house? PENCE!
I am not armchair quarterbacking. My thoughts upon the Covid have not changed at all since the first reports out of China and the fake photos of the bats in soup bowls. I watched Event 201 live, I work from home for myself so I get to listen to all kinds of stuff. Fauci wasn’t in the picture yet calling shots as I developed my thoughts upon the Covid. As soon as the emergancy authorisation was announced by Trump. I was against it and knew it was going to be playing into the hands of the authoritarian minded. This was by design, we the people were becoming way to successful with a re-energized middle class. It was clear as day to me that since the train comes in everybody rides, it was getting derailed before the election. I was very suspicious about the flue deaths since I knew they had dug up the Spanish flue and were doing gain of function with it. We had on average 4k dying a week at the end of 2019 beginning of 2020.
I do not know if President Trump understood he was being played or if he was pressured to be in on it. That I have no idea about. He deals with large data sets and models in his business, he should have questioned the 2 million dead, something I have thought from the day I heard about the model. I deal with people in my line of work who deal with very large data sets, defects, and statistical analysis that if incorrect could kill people. At the time, I did not speak with one person who bought the data and model prediction. Not one. My degrees are both statistical and model based, I did not buy the 2 million prediction which is why I asked people who do that sort of decision making for a living what he or she thought.
Nope, not armchair quarterbacking. Obviously there was a playbook, just not the kind you are thinking of now. The rolling out of field hospitals like Samaritans Purse, lockdowns, distancing, shortages, all of that has been wargamed. They needed real time data as to how the world would react. Unfortunately they have been collecting it for almost 2 years. I do believe the Covid is real, I also believe “they” released the Spanish Flu.
Whatever. I will be voting Trump.
Whose?
That dips* couldn’t be elected dogcatcher.
I hope he gets $18.00
No doubt, this is the most important sentence in the entire write-up by SD. My opinion of course. YMMV.
“…How ’bout that California RNC effort?
Remember, just because the buttons on the RNC vending machine say Coke, Diet Coke, Sprite, Fanta, Root Beer etc., that doesn’t mean the slots inside are filled with anything except diet ginger ale. Continuing to put your dollar in the same machine and hitting any button will only give you frustration and an endless supply of diet ginger ale. Just sayin’….”
NEVER Pence!!! Never RNC….. I donate direct to candidate or not at all…
He’s simply doing this for the money.
I recall Rush mentioning that low-tier candidates run for president because they make alot of money doing so – travel, dining, etc. are all paid for by campaign and all you have to do is show up for a little COC speech and talk to a dozen people. Meanwhile, establishment donations pour in.
and like clockwork and just like the worthless wimps they are, Tom Cotten and now Lindsay Graham DEFENDING MILLEY….
THEY just don’t have what it takes to lead this country, turn the country around NOR SHOW ANY aggression or stop to the dems…
They(entire party) just won’t do it. not fortitude, no drive, no zeal, no fight in them..They want to go to capitol hill, join the club, have dinner and cocktails nightly and enrich themselves, family, friends from mighty DOLLAR….greed….
Rate him no higher than disgusting pond scum. With my apologies to pond scum.
Pence put the nail in his coffin when he approved the election of 2020. He told everyone right there he is NOT a patriot, he is not a man of his word, he is a treasonous menace.
No, Pence put the nail in OUR coffins when he did that.
Not his coffin.
He’s doing just fine, and will continue to whether he ever wins an election or not. He’s a godless whore who made his deal.
I always love how people are always try to play the well if was RINO X against a Democrat, well you’d have to vote against the Democrat. That’s how we got where we are. Funny how Bush, Romney, Conservative Inc. etc were all in favor of Trump losing to Hillary and Biden. In fact, they still don’t seem very upset about the D’s controlling all 3 branches. Why keep voting for them? They don’t keep the D’s from doing anything, they just slow them down. And when they win, they do nothing to roll back any D legislation. Its a waste of time to vote for a RINO. country above party!
I look forward to TRUMP castigating all that would face him on the debate stage for the right to represent (US), in 2024. Save Noem, DeSantis.. natch.
If Pence is such a bad guy.,why did Trump select him as running mate for 2020?
Hello Mrs. Pence. Back at the treehouse again this morning?
poor child…did they let you finally out of basement ????
If Barr was such a bad guy, why did Trump pick him. If Milley was such a bad guy why did Trump pick him. People make mistakes and other people are backstabbing fakes. Reagan picked Bush as his VP. Bad choice. Washington trusted Benedict arnold.
I will vote for Trump/Trump endorsed candidates, or I will stay home…period.
I’m disappointed in Noem and her wavering support for VSPDJT.
Other SD federal representatives might be RINOs?
I live pretty much smack dab in the middle of IN and if the reaction of my neighbors is any gauge (and of course anecdotal data is not data), that guy couldn’t get elected dog catcher around here and the mini-Mussolini he put in the governor’s job when he took the veep gig has worn out his welcome as well.
-Anecdotal data aggregated = statistics, evidence, science discovery, trial conviction, etc
-Even lies (if known as lies) is valuable data.
-False observations for purpose is called betrayal, deception, gaslighting, perjury.
-We get in trouble if we handle false or inaccurate DATA as if it were true.
Anecdotal refers to untested data or data collected in undisciplined ways (perhaps “less reliable” is a good working term).
Testimony is testimony, sworn testimony is better (penalty for lying if discovered), sworn expert testimony is better yet but all are “anecdotal” at their basic level.
If he gets the nomination, his campaign will have all the enthusiasm and crowds as Biden in 2020.
How cute … a discussion of Elections. As if that is still a thing.
I sensed, yes it was a feeling but accurate none the less, that Pence was a fake after 2 years. Pence is a RINO GOPe RNC supported prof. pol. and will never get my vote.
He is a criminal as well–treason. Worth saying every time.
His criminal acts may extend beyond treason into more sordid things, if you believe some of what is out there about Pence.
500 comments to go through.
Missing Diamonds?
2020?
We’re still playing Republican?
Sheesh.
THIS TRAITOR WILL NEVER GET MY VOTE….LEGALLY!.
#NeverPence
Not all that angry at Pence, who is a very able administrator and quite conservative, but he’s not a fighter, and is the wrong man for the moment. It doesn’t speak well of him that he cannot see that. I’d like to see him in a Trump or DeSantis cabinet.
Quite conservative?
I think you have this Mike Pence confused with the Mike Pence of 10-15 years ago before he was bought, paid for and blackmailed. If you’re not angry at Pence for his backstabbing, traitorous acts, then you might be a little too forgiving.
The man is a whore.
Since we know a lot of eyes look at what’s posted here at CTH, let me apprise them of this: If Mike Pence is the candidate in 2020…or any other feckless republican….I and mine will be sitting out the election.
No money, no support, no votes will be forthcoming from this household for those who have not only failed to protect our Republic, but are actual participants in its destruction.
No more.
Never sit out an election, at least vote for a third party candidate to show them that you don’t approve of the big nominees. Not vote means consent, third party means we didn’t like the choices given.
Mike Pence, the Magic Christian. Judas redux. Go help Joel Osteen …. he can put men like Pence to work, stealing in the name of the Lord.
Well, this is one time I agree with Plouffe: “The threat this time to the country is from within. But it is a profound one.” However, I don’t think we are talking about the same people or circumstances. PDJT=good governance=good policy=good outcomes.
Maybe wishful on my part, but I’m seeing and hearing people who are quietly hoping for a total upheaval and reckoning for the US Gov Officials and despots. These are the same people who work hard, pay taxes, obey the laws of the land, put family first, and believe in paying our debts. I belong to this group, and I understand the frustration we have with gov. corruption. I also understand the Fear we have that family and friends will suffer when (not if) the pot boils over. Just think! When have we ever seen stadiums full of people screaming F J B… I’m an old gal from the Viet Nam Era and even then we didn’t have the steam that is building with out citizens in this age. The journalist job is to inform using truth and transparency. The news media is an abject failure when it comes to honesty and self-awareness. In my opinion, the National Media has always been self-serving and outrageously corrupt and the average citizen didn’t seem to notice, much less confront this outrage. It’s all changing, thanks to President Trump! Pence is just milk toast compared to Trump. If the RNC puts Pence up for President Elect, I will write in Trump’s name. And, I will wait for the first chance to aid my countrymen when the Pot Finally Boils Over. (Pelosi is a Traitor)
LOL…he would do better if he ran as a Democrat.
I’ll be there for you just like you were there for us when they faked our election.
A vote for Pence is a vote for those who installed the mumbling corpse occupying the WH now so he will not get money or a vote from me. But I guess they could install him if they really want to without any votes from We the People.