Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is continually under blistering attack from those who exploit the politics of COVID-19 without regard for health or safety. However, as you will see below in comments delivered today by DeSantis and previous (non-criticized) opinion from the U.K. Vaccinologist in Great Britain, Sir Andrew Pollard, what the Florida governor is doing is EXACTLY what the Director of the U.K. Oxford Vaccine Group has recommended for all world leaders.
Evidence around the world is showing that vaccination will not stop the spread of COVID-19, and it will, as a result of a vaccinated approach, continually mutate into ever-changing variants.
Vaccinated persons and non-vaccinated persons can equally be exposed, equally be infected, and equally carry the virus and all the variants therein. Thus the value of making a distinction between vaccinated and non-vaccinated persons, as determined by any policy that requires proof of vaccine, is -in fact- futile. Vaccine passports are an exercise in manipulative political theater.
During statements today in Lakeland Florida {direct Rumble Link}, Ron DeSantis again repeated that vaccines have an effective and reasonable place in the overall effort to protect people from severe health crisis as a result of COVID-19 infection. However, if the goal is to protect life and increase survival rates amid those who contract SARS-CoV-2 or variants therein, the vaccine itself does not provide that protection. The DeSantis approach is to combine vaccination for the most vulnerable, with easy access to therapeutics and treatment for everyone – regardless of vaccinated status. WATCH:
What Florida Governor Ron DeSantis outlines in that press conference and answer to questions, is exactly the approach recommended several months ago by Sir Andrew Pollard, the Senior U.K. Vaccinologist in Great Britain.
The commonsense therapeutic approach should be the primary focus, not vaccination, for ongoing healthcare systems as the COVID-19 variants will continue to evolve. DeSantis promotion of monoclonal antibody treatment is one highly effective tool to accomplish the goal of successful treatment and recovery.
Ultimately, the natural immunity process will be of greater overall benefit than vaccinations which will require continual boosters to deal with the ever-evolving variants (a similar approach to dealing with reoccurring and evolving flu strains). Listen to the leading U.K. Vaccinologist in Great Britain, Sir Andrew Pollard, and contrast these recommendations with the approach the Florida Governor is taking (SHORT VIDEO):
https://rumble.com/embed/vihwmr/?pub=4
In essence, both Dr. Andrew Pollard (Director of the U.K. Oxford Vaccine Group) and Dr. Malone, a U.S. leading expert on pandemics, state that variants of the COVID-19 virus will continue to spread throughout the population regardless of vaccine status; and the virus will continue to evolve into more infectious but less deadly or pathogenic strains.
There simply is no way to vaccinate the population and stop the spread of COVID variants, because the vaccinated will contract and spread the virus just like the non-vaccinated. The vaccine approach should be targeted to the elderly and those most at risk from a respiratory virus.
The benefit of the vaccine should be weighed against the individual’s current health status. Elderly populations with lower immune responses should be the target for vaccination; they are the most at risk. However, younger -less at risk- individuals will likely benefit more from therapeutic treatment after exposure *if* they experience any symptoms at all.
The problem is, this commonsense approach is less favorable to the interests of the pharmaceutical industry and the healthcare systems that are controlled by the financial mechanisms inside the business of healthcare. Big Pharma would obviously make less money from a smaller target population for vaccination; ergo, the therapeutic approach is a threat to the preferred approach of those who operate the business model. This is the overarching political battle.
The influence of the pharmaceutical corporations, inside the institutions of government controlled healthcare on a global basis, is massive. Their self-interest is the origin of the vaccinate push and vaccine narrative as the *only* and *best* solution.
Anyone who raises a question, challenges the approach, or stands in opposition to mandated mass vaccinations, then becomes a target to be isolated, marginalized, ridiculed and removed.
The COVID-19 virus is a politicized space where competing narratives are battling for position. Most of the information now pushed by the media is done along these political lines.
Social changes, complete structural shifts amid a world of interconnected nations, under the guise of “Build Back Better” COVID-19 mitigation is the goal and aspiration of the political left on a national and global scale. COVID-19 is a virus, but also a very important political weapon, and we are discovering what the purpose of the hype is all about. {GO DEEP}
There has been a great deal of discussion about the vitriolic, almost rabid disposition of people who are pushing the vaccination.
This should not be a surprise, although it might be disconcerting to find formerly reasonable people in your network, perhaps even in your family, now become seemingly unhinged if the subject arises.
It is demonstrably true, there has been a cleaving of our American population as the debate about the COVID vaccination rages on. However, it is wise to consider the underlying psychology of a person who has been vaccinated, before engaging in an argument.
You may end up being entirely correct in your position; however, an intense or combative argument? At what cost?
A vaccinated person is, as a consequence of their decision, in an irreversible frame of mind. Once the vaccination has been injected into a persons body, there is no turning back; the Rubicon has been crossed, the event horizon closes, there is no retreat.
Any conversation or debate about vaccine efficacy or long-term consequences with a person who has accepted the vaccine must be weighed accordingly.
The no-retreat baseline can, often does, form the origin of anger and vitriol, particularly in unstable leftists -who are, by nature of their ideology- professional blame-casters and prone to emotional responses as a matter of disposition. Therefore, it is better to avoid the topic entirely (if possible) and retain your peace of mind.
Revelations over the past few years have led to the complete collapse of credibility for many institutions. The healthcare field is the latest example of a politically controlled ideological industry that can no longer be trusted to make decisions based on a detachment from their political interests.
The healthcare industry has joined the education system, the justice system (DOJ), law enforcement (FBI), the intelligence system, arts and entertainment, as well as many organizations now controlled through the prism of politics. Political ideology, as the determining factor of institutional behavior, has infected almost every facet of modern life; healthcare is no exception.
Given the nature of the metastatic corruption, very visible in multiple institutions, it is completely understandable that more people would not trust the National Institute of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) or any other regulatory body or agency now vested in the COVID vaccine.
There is every reason not to trust the healthcare industry on the issue of vaccination(s). Indeed, their obtuse behavior, logical disconnect, false assertions and gross hypocrisy is more than enough to create doubt about the vaccine. Then overlay the lack of consequence for all known institutional corruption, and there’s even more reason to doubt them.
We should all cherish, respect and value the differences of opinion of this very personal issue. Healthcare is a personal and private matter. Other people have different factors, risk-factors and hundreds of considerations that guide or have guided their decision. We should all respect that; and we do not want to see ‘vaccination status‘ become a fragmentation problem for our CTH community.
We are all in the same foxhole.
If DeSantis can see this, all the GOP governors can. And don’t.
Throw in the senate/congressional GOP along with it.
Hanbun, don’t you think if we found out the elected “officials” (county, state and federal) who have benefited financially from “Big Pharma”, that will lead us to the answer of why some see the reason and logic and others don’t? That’s what I believe.
I would start by doing FOIA Request of EVERY federal/state senator/representatives and see where the cash flow is and then start asking questions.
FOIA request sometimes DO take a long time to fulfill due to the nature of “how much money…etc”!!!
He!! I’d be happy to know what stock they recently bought…
Anyone serving in public political office should have their tax returns, income and investments made public.
We need to know their “secret” in becoming multi-millionaires while serving a lifetime as “lowly” paid politicians.
In most states, there is a State level Department of Elections that is supposed to be a “watchdog” of sorts. One of the things they do is maintain records of campaign contributions to each candidate holding office. You can request and gain access to the records of a particular politician. Pretty easy really. You might get paper copies, microfilm or something old & obsolete and the volume may be massive. Do not expect anything sorted, summarized or perfect. Expect to spend some time making sense of it.
Look into the Pfzier contract. That will be eye opening. It is completely criminal. Also look at the former FDA chief. Who now sits on Pfziers board of directors.
I would start by organizing as many as possible to every hospital demanding early treatment. We are so beyond demanding documents. Our lives are at stake.
Early treatment is best begun AT HOME.
But there’s a reason the therapeutics are not available to people at home when they first notice symptoms: Could that reason be that the feds handsomely compensate hospitals for every Covid patient they treat?
Could it be that by the time the Covid patient requires hospitalization *and* a ventilator that the compensation hospitals receive from the feds increases dramatically?
One doesn’t receive “early” treatment from the hospital. One receives late treatment from the hospital because the doctors are being TOLD not to treat their symptomatic patients; the doctors are being told to withhold from their patients sound medical advice: Take lots of Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Zinc and Quercetin, HCQ, and whatever other combination of therapeutics he thinks most beneficial to that specific patient.
Who would lose out if patients recovered at home without the need of hospital care?
That’s the question we should be asking.
My point was to take action.
That is the tragic truth and it is criminal. We have at least 15 months of research on effective treatment of covid with HCQ and especially Ivermectin. Patently obvious NO early effective treatment will be allowed because then the “Emergency” for Emergency Use Authorization” for the experimental vaccines disappears.
What’s really creepy is that this travesty isn’t just limited to the U.S. — it’s also being pushed and enforced worldwide. What person or group is behind this? What person or group is SO big and controlling that they have been able to hijack the entire medical establishment and suppress proper treatment, even when it means people die, as well as getting the media and social media to promote these terrible practices — and then, getting the political leaders to agree to it? Worldwide? I know it’s demonic, but there has got to be real people with real names at the root of all this. Who are they, and how do they have that much power? It’s crazy-scary if you really consider it…
Criminal conspiracy……
DeSantis can also see that the ‘vaccines’ at best provide a few months of protection before a new variant arises created by the ‘vaccinated’… Necessitating a booster and playing Russian roulette with lives of the elderly with each shot.
They see what they want to see—or are paid to see.
Ron Desantis continues to take what appears to be in the right position on issues, still I can not help but remember that he comes from the CORRUPTED legislative branch; so it would not be unreasonable to think that he is being allowed to take these positions so as to assume greater office and power when in fact he is very much part of the whole damn dirty deal.
That is right – I DO NOT TRUST HIM!
Murray, I understand your thought guesses. I disagree re Desantis–My Governor. How about this for a great counter: President Trump used to be a Democrat. He used to contribute to Dem Candidates. Today, I trust Trump. I also trust Desantis.
I asked him about his statements supporting vaccines in a speach in Jax. He spammed me. All I wanted was clarification.
Nuff said!
Ron Desantis continues to take what appears to be in the right position on issues, still I can not help but remember that he comes from the CORRUPTED legislative branch; so it would not be unreasonable to think that he is being allowed to take these positions so as to assume greater office and power when in fact he is very much part of the whole damn dirty deal.
That is right – I DO NOT TRUST HIM!
….and yet even now he isn’t pushing to remove the vote flipping machines before 2022?
He almost lost to a Communist crack head. He of all people should understand the corruption in our election system.
Frankly any ‘Red’ State that doesn’t do this is already complicity in Treason against natural law and thus towards the US Constitution.
Satan’s useful idiots all. May they all burn in Hell.
Show your work. Where exactly are those vote flipping machines? And, you’re going to have to identify the counties here. (Want me to post the letters I have sent to various county supervisors of elections and their responses?)
I’ve seen these same leftist scripts pop up in a lot of interesting places regarding these so-called “flipping” machines. Quite interesting. Yes indeed, quite interesting.
Now, if you want to talk about Broward-esq type of number fugging, just say so. Same with Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, Tampa, Orlando, and Jax. They are all full of the normal run of the mill democrat voter registration/voter buying stuff.
Look what we learned from AZ is that they can flip votes via machines in even the deepest Red Districts.
The only solution is; ID checked, double blind hand counted paper ballots, at the Precinct level,
Anything else is fraud, and thus, unconstitutional.
Show your work? Good question, I know for a fact that our Precinct uses vote flipping machines. Why? We could easily count 500 votes in about 4 hours. Why the machines then?
Keep in mind, if your are talking about the County level, you have most likely already lost.
I hear ya Murray…re. 2012-2018 DeSantis as Representative and his participation in “the CORRUPTED legislative branch” I’m not certain specifically what transpired, though I must add, I’m really thankful to not be judged on every single thing I’ve done in my sinful, selfish past. On the other hand, perhaps that’s what’s gotten us in the mess we’re in, giving people the benefit of the doubt based on what they say (rather than their actions over time)…tough call.
Trust no one but our Lord!
Murray in Nashville,
While I have a vested interest in Mr. DeSantis (MY Governor), I will concede that “you can’t always get what you want..”.
If Ron DeSantis was PERFECT (is any mortal?) he would have started on the repeal of the onerous “red flag laws” already. Let’s please give this guy a break? He has been facing an onslaught of both global media, and pretty much any member of the SEWER (NOT “swamp”)
I indeed hope that he continues to clean up the Florida election system. He has already done a hell of a lot regarding that. I hope he stays as MY Governor until he finishes his second term?! Lots of work still to do…
TRUMP/FLYNN 2024
FLYNN/DESANTIS 2028
DESANTIS/???? 2032 !!!!!!!!
Best,
Skipper
My Governor too and I hope he stays through a second term. Then he can be our President. He’s only 45, plenty of time.
trump/flynn..2021……
You don’t have to trust, and you may be right, but at some point the people have to throw in with somebody and then let them know what they expect. We can’t sit on our hands, we have to try to get the best people elected. Abe Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson aren’t running. Don’t talk down the best we’ve got. Talk em up and let them know what you want from them.
Re “Abe Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson aren’t running. Don’t talk down the best we’ve got. Talk em up and let them know what you want from them.”
Problem with that is, by invoking Lincoln’s name, you’re suggesting that we talk up one of the worst presidents in American history. He ignored the U.S. Constitution and the original intent of its Framers by singlehandedly destroying states’ rights; among many other misguided actions and contradictory words. He is Obama’s favorite president for good reason…
I wrote to the PA State Senate leader. I asked him to please subpoena the ballots and get going. I told him he could go down in the history book as a leader who helped prove the corruption in the 2020 election and change the course of history. Let the Keystone state lead the way.
(does no good to yell at them….help them lead)
Gov. DeSantis was my Rep before he became Gov. He was a good Rep, but he wasn’t there very long (6 yrs). He got out of the swamp fairly quickly and I believe kept his integrity and soul.
He’s one of the very few good people in politics, imo.
I’ll put it this way, I thank God for Ron DeSantis and I don’t do that for many politicians (maybe 2 in my entire life).
What specific votes did DeSantis make between 2012-18
that leads you to your conclusion?
Thanks!
Yes I have witnessed this first hand. “in an irreversible frame of mind” -Sundance
Reminds me of the saying, “its easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
This saying is so true. So true and why this whole mess is so tough to combat. They’ve been thoroughly snookered.
Covid, voting, Biden……..the list is endless.
To admit this absurd level of lies is so hard for people.
I don’t feel sorry for them, am particularly mad about it today because my vax status is keeping me from people I love but hey……stay the course.
I understand your pain, I may lose my job soon, and my daughter who I love more than life itself, was force to get jabbed or forever leave nursing after many years of study.
After much cry full discussion; we chose to loaded her up on the protocol and so far everything is fine, praise be. I have a final D-dimer test, blood smear, and the most important of all an anti-body to the poisonous spike queued up in about 4 weeks from now.
I have to think that God left his faithful a way around this Satanic madness.
None the less, life on this Earth is but a method designed by God of proving yourself worthy of Heaven.
Ivermectin, get some.
Spaul,
Our son is in the same position and I have gotten so much great advice from Treepers as to how to help him prepare if he does go ahead with jabs, but we are still praying he doesn’t get backed into that corner. Right now, he and his co-workers are fighting hard and he has submitted a request for a religious exemption but we have been warned those are being rejected.
It is UNCONSCIONABLE that people are being forced into this in order to be allowed do their jobs and feed their families and I pray every day that God will protect them from physical side effects, Trusting that our kids are in His hands does alleviate some of my “Mama-bear” fear but I do still have my moments! Will add your daughter to my list!
I would suggest that he first forces them to accept labiality via a letter to HR. Next up, to take a month or so off with at about half pay, plenty of positions now at half the pay, vs the pay level of an experienced nurse, let alone all the other lower paid people that make the system work.
My bet is that the system itself will collapse before he does. Whether the minions of Satan care, only time can tell.
I don’t know what to tell you; except that our hearts are all in there with this fight before us all.
I pray for your son and all people that are being threatened with losing their ability to earn a living because they refuse to put an experimental gene therapy jab in their bodies. My daughter is in this situation as well as she works with elderly patients in assisted living facilities. It is so evil. Our freedoms have been trounced on for so long. We need to get down on our knees and pray to God to forgive us and help us. He is our salvation.
I have a scrip but I can’t find a pharmacy in the state of Texas that has it.
Just google it;
Durvet Ivermectin Injection 1% Sterile Solution, 50 ml at Tractor Supply Co.
Don’t wait.
Florida too. They are simply saying it is on backorder to avoid dispensing it. They are getting warnings not to dispense as it is not approved Covid treatment.
This is Dr. Pierre Kory’s and the FLCCC Alliance’s website (Front Line Covid Critical Care). You can find information there about where to get IVM. Good luck!
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
I know a pharmacy in North Texas that has plenty IVM if you are interested.
Hope you don’t lose your job. I think it would be helpful if someone like DeSantis instead of just talking about other treatments and actually saying there is a place for ‘vaccines’ in the treatment of the elderly would come out and say no one should be getting the ‘vaccines’. They are not safe.
Ooh, what antibody do you mean? Ivermectin, technically not an antibody – are you doing something else? I’d love to reverse this in my kids, don’t know if I can convince them though.
Found in the bin… 🙁
That’s some Treehouse wisdom right there.
That sums up a lot of the current insanity.
“its easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
Because they’ve been completely suckered a vast portion of the population refuses to even consider the truth now. Include Trump in that list of course; he was played from start to finish as he let his germaphobia rule his decision making. For him it was the plandemic, plus of course he has plenty of flaws and gaps in his morality center to begin with. To this day he seemingly can’t accept that he was suckered start to finish on this killer disease.
But how about the others? When you consider the millions of cult believers who have been worshiping the likes of shrillery and the boy emperor for the last couple of decades, and now they’ve been fully integrated into the lie by being enlisted as diaper nazis and stasi snitches, how many will be able to admit their sins, even to themselves, repent and ask to rejoin the sane? How many can step back now and accept that everything they believed, and therefore most of the actions they took and the emotions they invested into relationships has been founded on outright lies and evil? That’s a hard realization to come to.
When you have to accept that much of what you have lived has been tainted by evil and lies you end up having to search back and re-assess every relationship, re-think every interaction (as many as you can) and then try to re-view the history of your own life through a lens that isn’t corrupted. It’s not easy and it never ends. It gets easier and the Oh! moments become less frequent, but at least in my experience years of having everything twisted with lies and manipulation cannot be completely reset ever. There are always a few lost connections, friends lost, others never gained, memories so un-reliable and painful that all that can be done is to pack them away and abandon that aspect of your past. Even 20 years on now I still occasionally come across a situation that reminds me of some past event, usually with a painful emotion attached to what I perceived to be happening at the time, but now I realize “oh, that’s not what was happening, now I realize how the witch was twisting the situation and creating a lie about who did or said or thought what”. And I was only subjected to the determined manipulation by one person; consider the effort and determination it will require for anyone to escape the mental wasteland after being manipulated and indoctrinated by an entire global enterprise of evil.
Two weeks to stop the spread:
Give everyone a two weeks supply of HCQ or IVERMECTIN and have everyone take them for two weeks.
Had we done that, look at all we’d have missed! Big Pharma; Dominion; Antifa; dirty IC (all of them) and dirty MIC (which we already knew); the uniparty on steroids. I’d say everyone’s BS-ometers are well honed now. We are at war.
By choice
Brilliant!
I totally agree. One of the primary goals of the push for vaccinations is that honest people can be separated from their otherwise natural allies. Regardless of whether you are vaccinated or not, COVID is being used as another cudgel to drive divisions among the enemies of Totalitarianism. I have watched this for well over a year and so have the forces of Big Government, and they know damned well that these divisions are real and even serve to divide nuclear families, a long time goal of the radical leftists. We have no chance to defeat these people if we can’t even hold our families together.
The intent to divide was there from the very beginning when kids were told they needed to wear masks and stay indoors or they were killing grandma. Of course at that time it was for 2 weeks to flatten the curve. Now they have been dividing us for 2 years still with masks, now with vaccines and therapeutics, next the boosters. It has divided families.
The main approach of Conmunism, is to DIVIDE the people, so they can not unite against the government.
Remember the video, of the woman from Yogoslavia, I think it was.
They will find ANYTHING to divide us, and keep us at each others throats, so we can’t unite against them.
Doesn’t matter whether they have us argueing over masks, vax, elections, race, gender or the weather,…so long as we remain DIVIDED.
To understand why, I-net search “the Velvet revolution”; when the ENTIRE population of 3 small baltic countries, UNITED in peaceful opposition to the mighty Soviet Union, by their actions and voices saying “ENOUGH! You can’t shoot us ALL!” ,…..the mighty Soviet Union withdrew its tanks and troops, …
Because the population was UNITED. Those who suggest we respond with violence, are either provacatuers, or misguided.
Conmunists in power are fully prepared to deal ruthlessly with violent uprisings,..
Those who suggest we use the legal or legislative approach, are living in a dream world, as both systems have been corrupted.
No, we must wait, and pray that MORE of those living under illusion will become DISillusioned, and join our ranks,..”lets overlook your a little late to the party, and just rejoice that you made it, after all!”
Only with near 100 percent rejection, by the population, will we overthrow this tyranny.
As Sundance often says, no government can sustain, without the consent of the governed.
Or, as Nancy said, “Just say NO!”
BUT, we ain’t there, yet. Unfortunately, things are going to have to get a lot worse, to FORCE people to admit, to themselvesand others, that they have been fooled.
Like it or not, this Biden bunch are JUST the ones to do it.
Agree 1000%. Welcome everyone, shorten the list of litmus tests.
The hardest part of flattening the curve in 14 days is the first 18 months.
So has DeSantis thought about providing immediate access to a 3-5 day Ivermectin Treatment Protocol packet to all Floridians who want it?
I like that he set up the 30+ Antibody infusion centers across the state but now I wish he would speak more about clearing the deck for all doctors and hospitals to allow this Ivermectin Treatment Protocol if they so wish. Period.
No more discussion of anti-Therapuetics from the feds or bias doctors.
If the patient wants and requests it, he or she MUST be given this 3-5 day regimen.
By the way, if DeSantis came out with this edict for Florida and the results follow that we have seen using early treatment Ivermectin protocol, IMO DeSantis would be crowned a hero and frankly could pass PT for the 2024 number one slot, only because PT refuses to deviate from his stance on get the vaccine.
DeSantis would be seen as providing common sense, choice and the treatment that made a real difference while not Pooh poohing altogether the vaccine.
I’d call that brilliant!
Yes, because Desantis is IN a ‘position of authority’, he can do what PDJT can’t, just as you say, Bogeyfree.
They kind of have PDJT in a box, where he HAS to keep praising the vax, and operation warp speed, unfortunately.
Even Desantis isn’t going the final step, and saying the Vax is no good, donot take it.
Politics,…Jake. Its POLITICS!
I agree that PT is in a box but he can pivot slightly with this new news about Fauci and their involvement in funding this virus and its development.
He could come out and say something like……..
In light of this new information I would encourage a dual path approach whereby our senior and those with serious co-morbidities consider the vaccine while those healthy consider the early preventative Therapuetic protocol option.
This pretty much fits with what DeSantis is doing.
My point is PT has a golden opportunity to pivot slightly and insert CHOICE into the discussion more.
I think Trump has said that. I think he said he did the treatment protocol and had great results. Got well very quick.
I cannot look for it now, but I think I read that in a thread here earlier this summer.
I live in Texas, my 21 year old son with asthma was given a prescription for Ivermectin upon receiving a positive covid test. Spoke with numerous pharmacys in the area, nationwide shortage. The regional person for Walgreens told me that their distrubutor can’t even get Ivermectin currently. What or who is causing the shortage? Either way one day later my son was negative and his fever and sore throat were gone on their own after multiple herbal treatments. If you are searching for Ivermectin or Stromectol, the Tractor supply stores and all animal supply places have sold out as well in my area.
Who or what is causing the shortage? Didn’t you see the protocols for arriving “neighbors“ from overseas that are including ivermectin for potential parasites? (Who knows how widely parasites are affecting the mountainous regions of Afghanistan, but there you go.)
https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/overseas-guidelines.html
Kind of reminds me of when ammo seemed scarce in the time of Barry and coincidentally, government agencies were reportedly buying it up.
What’s causing the shortage?
How about the world waking up to the simple fact the vaccine is not as effective and safe as we were told.
Remember Fauci when he said it was 100% safe and effective?
So the bottom line is TRUTH is causing the shortage as millions scramble to find Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine or quercetin (which by the way is on complete nation wide back order at GNC)
Possible sources for Quercetin: Swanson Vitamins; iHerb; Toniiq (correct spelling); All Star Health; eBay.
Online pharmacies.
My husband had his America’s Frontline Doctor telemed last week but has yet to hear from the pharmacy. We are concerned. He did message AFD about it. We should have done his a long time ago.
I have 90 3 mg tablets of the IVM and four tubes of the horse paste. I hope that’s enough for potentially 4 people when Covid comes calling.
I do have other things, some not coming until Saturday, though! I am being a Covid militant in the meantime in my household. I really don’t want this or anyone to get it at all.
Check the dosage chart at FLCCC.net for Ivermectin. It is based on one’s weight in kilograms.
Thanks, I’m well aware of the dosage.
I posted this above but will do so here again. Check this website. This is the Frontline Covid Critical Care Alliance docs who have been on the front line of working with covid patients and successfully prescribing IVM.
You can find how to get it from their website. There have been over 4 Billion doses of IVM administered during the forty years it has been available, with almost no side effects. Obviously using the meds for humans rather than animals is the choice to make if you can get the pills.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
(Hint: online at TS in the 1% solution) here is your dose. You do the math. Now, that dosing is in micrograms/kg, so yeah.
https://www.news18.com/news/india/health-ministry-guidelines-on-usage-of-ivermectin-for-treating-covid-patients-differs-with-who-3740279.html
Try to find Noramectin. It is manufactured in England.
1cc per 110lbs bodyweight.
240lb bodyweight example
2cc every other day for 5 days. It does the trick.
Least that is what I heard since I am no doctor, and heard thru the grapevine.
Thats what I have. 500ml bottle from that website with a jungle name was $90. 330 doses at 165 lbs..or less then .30 a dose
Okie
You are right on the money. Lol
By the way I am a NW Okie
Call 1-916-269-8485, speak to Jerry, tell him Dutchman sent you.
Can get you Ivermectin, HCQ/AZT or “the new one” Fenofibrate.
A pharmacy in India, no Rx neccesary, and I have been ordering meds from them, for over 10 years.
Perfectly legal, and they carry meds from the largest pharmacuetical manufacturer in India, which also manufactures meds for most of the major pharmacuetical companies.
Point is, if you have had Rx medsfrom CVS, Walgreens, etc you have, in all liklihood had meds that were actually made by this company in India.
Awesome info! Thanks!!??
Hi dutchman, Is this guy getting it from India? I have friends in India and they can not find anyone who travels to USA. It is very difficult. I will call your guy and try.
Oh my goodness, I hope you’re good friends with this guy because about a thousand treepers will be calling him tomorrow:)
Dr. Malone said that humans should not take the Ivermectin for horses, especially not the liquid form which he wouldn’t even give to his horses. He said the chemical composition of the Ivermectin paste is not the same as the tablet form meant for humans.
The paste is available on Amazon. I bought more today. The price has tripled though in the last three months.
crazy. i got my supply of the vet stuff last fall (the human med is impossible to find here bc no doc will prescribe it))
IVM isn’t working nearly as well against the Delta variant as it had against the prior strain. The FLCCC site updates their protocols every week and recently doubled the dosage recommendation AND added in monoclonal antibodies. The treatment protocols have also become more complex as they throw the kitchen sink at it, as it were.
On top of that (and I think another Treeper addresses this in the replies), IVM has become impossible to find. The started a couple of weeks ago. Hard to know if it’s due to huge worldwide demand and/or the powers that be mucking things up.
Then, on top of that, big box pharmacies (and many independent ones as well) have decided to play doctor and insert themselves btwn the doctor and the patient by refusing to fill any prescription for covid treatment that isn’t an FDA approved treatment. That means no IVM Rx’s will be filled (assuming there was any on the market to be had). It’s criminal.
This is probably coming from their State Board of Pharmacy
Could. Not. Agree. More.
Angers me beyond words that prescriptions for HCQ and Ivermectin are being withheld from patients requesting same.
Speak about those drugs during conversations with Doctors….even those whom I list among my family/friends….all I get is “mumble, mumble, mumble…..not part of the protocol…..”
I thought doctors were intellectually curious and treated each patient such that they will improve…
Guess not…..as with many of our industries and professions….I now believe that a large percentage of doctors goosestep…..all that is missing is the hand pointing toward the sky….and utterances worshipping death for all the lesser beings……
Truly. Pissed. Off.
A hospital in Houston refused to fill a patients Ivermectin script, ordered by his VA doctor.
He ended up on a ventilator DEAD.
Posted the article on page 1 of the Prez Open.
They are going to all lengths to make sure people don’t get IVM or HCQ now, including murdering people.
See the antibody treatment is expensive and makes big pharma happy ivermectin not so much. Don’t forget regeneron murders discarded embryos so it’s not ok if you are pro-life.
The one thing I would add is a comment I heard during Dr. McDowell’s video..the vaccinated have become virus factories capable of SIMULTANEOUSLY producing multiple types of mutations.
There was another article and comment on this thread that it appears the boosters are being pushed because the original mRNA injections have a finite time period of impact and that the boosters actually re-energize the mutation factory.
The major issue is that once the China-Anglo Virus injections were supported, a Catch 22 was created in that people like Governor Desantis and President Trump feel they cannot say NO BOOSTERS, if you made the initial mistake to be injected for what ever personal reason.
So, now it falls on Social Media posters and brave medical professionals to get out that very message.
“OK, a mistake was made and people made a personal choice to be injected, initially. Do not get the boosters.”
This is where your going in the critical thinking.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat-unvaccinated-patients-co-workers/
I have been under the weather for about 10 days.
Not badly sick, but a general feeling of minor aches and headache with a periodic feeling of breathing difficulties.
Over the counter covid tests have been negative.
However, I have been taking HCQ twice daily and have found it relieved my symptoms significantly.
Dont know about the accuracy of the tests, but can recommend keeping HCQ on hand for early treatment.
And if you are having a hard time getting HCQ, you can easily make your own with grapefruit and lemons.
https://lightonconspiracies.com/home-recipe-for-hydroxychloroquine-hcq/
Did you run into any resistance getting HCQ?
No, not at all. Did a phone consultation with a doctor and got my prescription by mail 3 or 4 days later.
Also got instructions on dosage if I got sick.
Went looking into this route with IVM. Best I could do was $25 for doctor and $140 for meds. (with 20% discount).
I found a pharmacy yesterday for a 5 day treatment of IVM, $20, but you need a script from a doctor, which I’m trying to find.
The only ones that will write a script, you have to use their pharmacy, with their expensive meds.
Mine was 91 bucks for the consultation and 50 for a 90 day supply.
Try Dr. Stella Emmanuel in Houston.
America’s Frontline Doctors.
I think the number is 281 530 1230
Thanks John. Appreciate the info.
Glad to hear your on the mends. And good to hear a success story on these products.
Thank you! Now hopefully I have natural immunity.
The best and only kind.
Did you find a pharmacy in TX to fill your scrip? If yes, please share.
I have a prescription from a doctor at Push health, but I can’t find a pharmacy in TX. to fill it.
Try the doctors above they have their own pharmacy.
will do, thanks
Can you please tell me where you got the Rx?
Thanks
Thank you, Warren!
Your welcome. I will continue searching high and wide, to find the best cost for any treatment plan needed, for everyone.
I have had a lot of help from the many posters here in CTH, showing links to a wealth of info.
Excellent…thanks!!!!
Reminds me of black and white movie ‘Small Town Girl’ wherein our herione demanded her husband drink hot water infused with grapefruit….these long time recipes make so much sense….
When did we become so dependent upon pharma meds rather than these old tried and true remedies….
Never gave children chewable vitamins or anything with aspartame because it can cause cancer…didnt know about the autism link…good to know as my daughter plans to now begin her family.
AND…..I still use plain aspirin instead of other over the counter meds…
To all….your comments are edifying….and truly do brighten my days!!!!!
My mother who has passed on, was a natural remedy lady. And I grew up with a strong immune system.
63 and on NO prescription drugs, just supplements and a wife who makes sure I dont cheat with bad things too much!
I think I got C19 15 months ago. BTY, I’m 78 but in great shape. Anyway, 103 degrees, monster headache and very weak, but no throat, diarrhea or breathing issues. I immediately started a regime of 8 oz. of tonic water (quinine), 100 mg of zinc and triple doses of vitamin D per day. Fever dropped 1 degree in 1 day and was gone in 3. Other symptoms gone by day 2.
I live in Panama which had not handled the pandemic well, especially in 2020, and there were hundreds of symptomatic people walking around. I kept using the above routine and have never felt better.
Thanks for sharing your story Addison.
As the link says ??in my previous post, the grapefruit/lemon concoction is more of less, as you say, tonic water(quinine).
And as Kathryn says??, it’s something mom used to give all 9 of us, any time we came down with something.
Thank you, Warren!!!
Your welcome, Deborah
Hope you get well soon John.
Thanks! I’m fine, going back to work tomorrow!
My wife’s fresh baked goodies are putting me in need of exercise!
I’m sure the healthcare industry is under the influence of government funding . I’ve heard that hospitals were actually getting Federal funds for covid patients and covid deaths reported. And everyone knows that big pharma has tremendous ties to the medical field. Everything ties together tightly and they all stick together. Now that the lies are surfacing and other highly credible sources are contradicting the political science and the rush to science we shall see the outcry. Governor DeSantis is very presidential looking and a great speaker.
Trump – DeSantis 2024
If anyone thinks that the vaccinated are vicious now wait till they get a continuing series of boosters. 8 balls dont care about anyone or anything else. The demons that will bind with them throw all social/ criminal restrictions out the window. Look back on all the zombie movies in the last 40 years. You think that was just entertainment? Those were training films.Cannibalism will be common. They are coming for your family.
Don’t watch zombie movies but got the gist of how to stop one.
Just want to point out that there was one zombie movie, the original zombie movie with Charlton Heston (1971) “The Omega Man”, where the disease was reversed. Saying NO to the initial injection or NO to the booster may be that event that helps the reversal.
Sadly Trump trusted people like Fauci and most of Trump’s closest advisors misled him. Had they given Dr Scott Atlas and the main dissenters an equal voice this would have helped Trump and the American people much earlier. The Republican politicians are the main ones I blame – well most of them. How many of them have investments in the Pharmaceutical industry?
I assume Mike Pence got rid of Atlas and Trump just went along with Pence just like he went along with getting rid of Flynn. Pence is a rotten to the core human being pretending to be religious.
If President Trump did not allow General Flynn to resign would we know all we now know about the deep state’s machinations to undermine/remove President Trump?
If Flynn stayed we might know a hell of a lot more and maybe have done something about it. Maybe even gotten Trump a 2nd term.
This thinking that “exposure” is a win has gotten us to exactly where we are.
Atlas only signed on for 90 days, to help get through the worst of it and give PT other options besides Fauci. He said so himself.
Front and center is traitor Pence. Is there any doubt he’s sitting on a weekly supply of Ivermectin?
Trump had to follow the science from the top bureaucrats or face the consequences from the media. An election was coming up. To many unknowns. Trump did support alternative therapies and got his character assassinated .
I think it is not the politician’s investments in Pharma but how much big pharma donates to their campaigns, foundations, institutes and PACs.
The unvaccinated are being scapegoated to distract from the CDC’s abject failure in dealing with Covid.
They actually need the unvaccinated.
If they achieved a 100% vaccination rate, who would they blame for the continuing infections?
unborn children
good one! But true.
My employer here in BC, Canada has just mandated vaccines for *all* employees, with very grudging provisions (regular testing) for the U.N.-vaxxed (me). Can’t wait to see the look on our stupid CEO’s face when he realizes his employees are STILL catching COVID!
Hi Mark,
Going to a rally at Vancouver City Hall tomorrow.
Our movement here in B.C. has terrific momentum.
We just found out the neighbour directly behind us is a volunteer for Action4Canada also “ on guard for thee” of which I am a member is steam rolling ahead.
I believe September 18 at the Vancouver Art Gallery the rally/protest will be massive.
I’ve been wanting to join the rallies so bad, but they always fall on my work days! I’ll try to get the day off for the 18th! I gotta get in there and support!
Hello Mark,
Just curious if you get 14 days paid quarantine leave every time you test positive?
Hi Joshua! Great question! I think I do, but would have to check. They’ve been doing voluntary testing since April, and have had no positives in the past four months.
The experimental mRNA injection is the worse thing anyone can take as it degrades the bodies natural immunity that can never return to its original state. Natural immunity has served mankind well for millennia with honest science only providing live attenuated vaccines that enhance the bodies natural response.
I’ve been meaning to ask this question: why does this happen (immune degradation) with mRNA vaccines, but not with traditional ones?
Here’s my two cents,
The Bell Curve
Understanding a bell curve as it relates to many things, I’d like to explain it in a liability and asset sort of way and while I do, please picture in your mind a “Bell”.
On both the left and right sides, we have a beginning and the end no matter at what degree you stand. Here, I’ll use the twelve stages of birth for a conceptual understanding… Prebirth, birth/newborn babies, infancy (0-3), early childhood (3-6), middle childhood (6-8), late childhood (9-11), adolescents (12-20), early adulthood (20-35): nicknamed “Enterprise”, midlife (35-50), mature adulthood (50-80), late adulthood (80+), death and dying. These are your 12 stages of the human life cycle.
Still picturing that Bell? If not, consider clicking this Hyperlink for a beautiful example…
https://www.institute4learning.com/resources/articles/the-12-stages-of-life/#lg=1&slide=0
Now, knowing and seeing what I’ve just described, can you figure out who the liabilities and assets are? And, when considering what I’ve just described, ask yourselves… Why The push to Vaccinate, why the push for Abortion? Why the push to extend retirement ages? Why the push for “Digital” everything, including money? Why do governments claim to care about you? Or… Do they really?
Liabilities and assets should be key point as to why governments would rather have more money coming in than going out. You cannot “Build Back Better” unless you destroy everything first.
Get it now?
If you don’t believe me, then ask Bill Gates or anyone from the World Economic Forum (WEF). They seem to believe that by lowering the population will lead to lower Co2’s and therefore – save the Planet.
I like to think of it as, saving money!
As Ernest Hemingway expressed in his book ‘The Sun Also Rises’ –
“How did you go bankrupt?”
Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”
Desantis should say the ‘vaccines’ are dangerous. No one should be getting them. He has seen the data. Why won’t he? Sorry, he’s not all that.
Same with President Trump. Even now with endless Booster Jabs. Who isn’t on the Pub side? They are all super pro Jab.
Until a prominent Republican comes out and says the ‘vaccines’ are dangerous they will never go away.
Even this might not be enough but it’s a start.
Also that they don’t work and make the situation worse. This is just beyond belief. It’s hard to trust anyone in a power position.
DeSantis signed legislation banning vaccine passports in Florida, but it has no teeth because it exempts employers who mandate their employees be vaccinated. Nothing is what it seems anymore.
He also continues to push the Jabs.
His signing a law 6 months ago so Political candidates could sue Big Tech made a big splash but upon a deeper dive into the law… it was basically all for show.
Sundance seems to think he is the most MAGA of the big name Republicans. He may well be but that’s not saying much, apparently.
“A vaccinated person is, as a consequence of their decision, in an irreversible frame of mind. Once the vaccination has been injected into a persons body, there is no turning back; the Rubicon has been crossed, the event horizon closes, there is no retreat.
Any conversation or debate about vaccine efficacy or long-term consequences with a person who has accepted the vaccine must be weighed accordingly.”
Hubby and I had this very experience recently with MIL. She will not believe us – people who actually know her as a human being. Who love her and wish her absolutely no ill. She’d rather believe the nameless, faceless CDC, the very fake news hysterical drive by media and the demonic liar fauci. Who do not even know her name let alone give one wit about her. Its is quite heart wrenching.
Just confirms the Marxist Control over America. They control all levers
Especially so, if your MIL could avoid the worst of it by using Ivermectin or blood thinners to stop the spike proteins from wreaking havoc in her vascular system. But people who double down on stupid will not avail themselves of any safe remedies. Their fear will be what ultimately destroys them.
My husband is in this number, and it hurts.
A lot of my family members too. I pray and am entrusting them to God.
My only concern is what will happen after DeSantis is removed via election fraud next year. I assume he thinks Biden won too. Or maybe he plans on running for President to achieve the same result? Im concerned because I dont want our only hope to go away.
Its like counting the days to Nov 2020 all over again when you know they going to engage in massive fraud to remove President Trump but you cant do anything about it but watch and complain.
I live in Florida. Let me assure everyone…Ron DeSantis is as good as you can get relative to a politician these days. He has legislated and governed from a solid bedrock of generally conservative values throughout. He is concerned for the environment and was instrumental in pushing for major funding on real improvement plans for key “quality of our ecosystems” action plans early in his governorship. I wondered if that was a problem, but it really wasn’t. It represented common sense measures to improve the quality of our water and land resources. His track record on all issues is stellar, intelligent, focused. In my opinion there is no better person to run for President in 2024, including our former lion DJT, who should serve in a support role during that election.
As to his intelligent approach to Covid…very adept and smart. He is challenging the school districts that are trying to mandate masks, which could create some chaffing with select mama bears. But DeSantis uses real science coupled with practical solutions to tackle these problems. His implementation of monoclonal antibody treatments was tremendous. It helped me immediately when I came down with Covid, as I got the shots at first indication of infection …and they clearly limited my symptoms. Not sure he could do the same thing with Ivermectin, as much as I wish he could influence that. The medical/leftist cabal has done a number on burying a highly effective medication (evil in action).
Do you know if hes looking into election fraud at all?
There are reform measures being put in place, over and above those that were already done in advance of those put in place previously by DeSantis. We also have a majority Republican legislature that is strong.
Nothing in their that I saw that would prevent 2020 style fraud.
No forensic audit of 2020 says it all, Still contracted with Dominion. Machines will still be connected to the internet. etc..
Legislature must be corrupt like the Republicans in other state legislatures.
Hard to believe were about to do it all over again.
As I recall, one of the first things DeSantis did was to fire the witch from Broward County Elections who evilly manipulated elections there for years. Don’t know what other steps he has taken but since he almost lost to the depraved drug addict, I’m sure he is aware of the extreme danger of fraud in our elections.
Yes, I remember. That was before the covid hoax. Covid and Dominion have been identified since then.
Thank you.
He’s advocating that there is a place for the ‘vaccines’ in fighting Covid. Real science in that?
I’ve been saying this for awhile. We are allowing them to divide us, the citizens, and we have allowed it to become an us versus them situation. While the hatred is flying among the citizenry, the tyrants are organizing more ways to remove liberty and punish one segment of society, in this case the unvaccinated, but they’ll get around to the vaccinated as soon as it’s convenient! This is what the vaccinated and even Democrats totally fail to comprehend! The machine is using Democrats and the hostile vaccinated right now as useful idiots. They need to realize, here I must shout, THEY HATE US ALL. It’s just that right now division is helping them, and we fall right into their hands when we fight and hate each other instead of them. This gives them cover, and allows them to issue edicts and make all sorts of mischief. We need to stop, now, today, and give other people respect even if they don’t deserve it. Stop the war of words! People got the vax because they felt it made sense for them, and for some, it may have been a good decision. Only they know, and it’s none of your or my business. Conversely, if you didn’t, that’s your business, nobody else’s. We are not stupid, ignorant, foolish, idiotic, or any of the other adjectives, to go either way. Show respect for people’s decision, and stop the war now. DIVIDE and conquer, remember? We are helping them, when we need to unite. We need each other, yes we do. Together, we can put a stop to the machine. I have zero doubts Democrats will get there, once they realize the truth of this, that they are cogs in a machine that will be run over once they are not useful. But do we have the time to wait? We can stop now, lower the rhetoric, stop telling people who got the vax they are “going to die in two years”. Who would want to hear that? God forbid it should be true. If we wish that on our fellow man, we’re already gone. What kind of hell do we want to live in?
It’s going to take time, and some people are inplacable, but we ought to all start the process of lowering the flame in order to bring cohesion so we can take on Goliath and win.
America is very Marxist. In France the Jabbed are joining the protests because they see the loss of Freedom. In America it’s the complete opposite where America is willing under Marxist Control.
There is one other, GLARING ommission, from the discussion of Covid treatment; EARLY intervention.
The stupid responce of sending patients home, to get worse and end up coming back, OR get over it, wasn’t just stupid, it was bad triage, which directly led to hospital systems becoming overwhelmed, and the people behind this KNEW it.
Another reason for the villification of HCQ, in addition to the need to have NO effective treatments, in order to justify the EUA for the “vax”.
Prompt intervention with HCQ, for every pt. that showed up at the ER, with HCQ, would have prevented the breaking of the heathcare system.
And, a test that could distinguish between Covid and the flu, and an antibody test would have also destroyed the narrative, and so were all part of the mix.
California has anthropomorhic (man caused) drought and wildfires, and the Covid Pandemic is anthropomorphic, as well.
And, neither is out of “stupidity”; BOTH are DELIBERATE.
You’ll never convince me, otherwise.
In my cold, dead arm!
Exactly. Sundance should pin your comment to the top for constant reminder of their evil intent to steal an election FIRST and murder thousands of people in the process.
I started the Ivermectin Prevention Protocol last week. I am taking 15mg 2 a week. I haven’t had any side effects from the Ivermectin.
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Trust, founded by Bill Gates (Trades, Portfolio) and his ex-wife Melinda in 2000, has revealed a new holding in Morgan Stanley China A Share Fund Inc. (CAF, Financial).
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is the largest private foundation in the world. Six years after it was established, the group’s trustees created a two-entity structure: the Foundation, which distributes money to grantees, and the Foundation Trust, which manages the group’s endowment. The investments of the Foundation Trust are managed by an outside team of portfolio managers. The goal of the foundation is to distribute donations and income from investments in the form of grants to encourage and fund philanthropic business activity. Investments cover a wide variety of sectors, including aerospace and defense, banks, automobiles, household durables, media, pharmaceuticals and software.
https://www.gurufocus.com/news/1516462/bill-gates-foundation-buys-into-the-morgan-stanley-china-a-share-fund
Yes the new great lie seems to be that the vaccinated don’t cause and spread the virus variants and it is only spread by the unvaccinated.
When in fact the reality is there is no difference between unvaxed and vaxed. Both can get it and both can spread it although natural immunity is still far more effective long term against all virus variants.
So in my book early preventative protocol + natural immunity is my choice all day long and if I get it I have read enough as to how the right way is to treat it if it gets beyond the replication stage.
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The vaccinated are WORSE. Assuming that the vax helps keep symptoms down, the vaxxed people are able to walk around carrying heavier loads of the virus without being obviously sick.
There is no proof the Jab reduces symptoms. That is just more Commie Dem and Pub (yes today I added them) propaganda.
“However, if the goal is to protect life and increase survival rates amid those who contract SARS-CoV-2.. ……, the vaccine itself does not provide that protection.”
Not exactly correct, the numbers in Australia show that the vast majority of those hospitalised with Cv are unvaccinated. But vaccination seems to make little difference the death rate among 80 year olds.
Of course existing vaccines will likely not do much vs future variants, depending how they roll.
I damn sure do not believe my own government, that being said you know where I stand on any covid info from Australia.
Sheeesh..
When you don’t like the facts , denial is certainly an available option.
Facts? Australia is a full out Commie country. Nothing from there can be trusted.
Yes you are correct. Intelligence allows me to deny your statement and the so called numbers from Australia, which by the way we do not see in your post.
Look at Isreal. They post the failure you call a vaccine that works in Australia.
Maybe the vaccine in Australia is a raging success in losing all your freedom
Israel one of the most vaccinated countries over 80% in hospital or got the Fauci virus have been jabbed. Same with Finland and a couple other countries, according to Alex Berenson and doctor Malone, Doc McCoulough from Texas.
The problem is Israel is pushing Boosters. They are full out Jab Cult.
Along with many football players, been jabbed, they’re the ones getting the Fauci virus and spreading . Your info is just plain wrong.
The question is do you believe them at this point.
I don’t and seeing the same bs numbers in CA.
Look at Israel. The shots are clearly causing greater spread of the virus. Therefore, to be honest, I don’t want to be in the same foxhole with anyone who has been recently jabbed.
They should stop these damnable shots until safety is proven (or not) and financial liability for harm is available for an injured party.
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People who have been vaccinated are more likely to be able to be walking around carrying heavier and more lethal viral loads.
Yes they are most assuredly more of a risk to unvaccinated people than asymptomatic “infected” unvaccinated people.
The vaccinations thus encourage the spread of mutations that are more dangerous and otherwise would have laid low their hosts. While the unvaccinated may be initially at more risk from vaccinated carriers, because of the rapid and diverse mutation of these viruses, the vaccinated also will be at risk in a slightly delayed way from mutations that the vac doesn’t protect well against.
Unvaccinated people who already cleared Covid infections should be in the best situation of all. Their natural immunity already fought off the virus successfully and it can therefore recognize and fight any variants as well.
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You may be right. I’ve read some doc researcher types’ opinions though that as the vaccinations induce more ane more lethal strains, everyone still will be at risk.
Meanwhile, I remain aggrieved that one of my kids was forced by the military to get the shot. He already had had covid. A year and a half, traveled all over, no illness. A few weeks after getting the shot, “somehow” got covid “again”. I am trying to understand how in hell this could happen.
Take away big pharma liability immunity and see how fast that shit is recalled.
That is the one thing that scares the hell out of big pharma right now. If it was a good product, they would not need to hide behind Joe Biden skirt.
You hit the nail on the head.
Biden has just taken control of the distribution of all monoclonal antibody drugs ( Casirivimab/imdevimab, sold under the brand name REGEN-COV among others)
https://www.phe.gov/emergency/events/COVID19/investigation-MCM/Bamlanivimab-etesevimab/Pages/mAb-ordering-update-3Sept2021.aspx
He really does not like DeSantis’ good PR from monoclonal antibody roll out in Fl.
With 95 percent of Cornell students avaccinated
https://covid.cornell.edu/testing/dashboard/
As Cornell Reports Record Cases, Students Miss First Classes, Bear Burdens of COVID Policies
https://cornellsun.com/2021/09/06/as-cornell-reports-record-cases-students-miss-first-classes-bear-burdens-of-covid-policies/
Future leaders and they can’t manage their way out of a paper bag. People in their early 20’s with no serious risks and they whine like babies.
Old White Man Bad!
Love DeSantis, but am very disappointed he is not also offering Ivermectin.
This is the Pub party line. President Trump is the same. We have no one in a power position on our side.
I don’t think he is in a legal position to mandate Ivermectin as a treatment or for it to be dispensed. Pharmacies are replying that they are following CDC protocol. They are also bound by their state board of pharmacy guidelines. Desantis can’t arbitrarily make up his own guidelines for dispensing controlled substances, for example.
Florida doctors have no problem prescribing Ivermectin to begin with. Filling the prescriptions at the pharmacy is another matter.
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At this point I would be fine with “futile”.
The vaccines are worse than that. Reducing symptoms means that people who otherwise would be isolated and sick, or die, are able to walk around infecting others.
Viruses need cell hosts to multiply.
The reason viruses tend to become weaker as they mutate is that hosts harboring stronger variants (mutations) tend to be sick and less mobile, or die. Weaker and more infectious mutations survive and multiply.
E.g. the Spanish Flu is still with us. Heard of anyone dying from it recently?
DeSantis is a smart guy. He needs to get this.
The vaccines in the middle of a pandemic are encouraging the spread and multiplication of more lethal variants.
What Pub is coming out against the Jabs? President Trump continues to push them. He is getting little push back on this disastrous stance. I think there is an opening for anti Jab
Attention Florida-Obsessed COVID Media: Let’s Cross the Country and Check on a Democrat-Run State
https://redstate.com/bradslager/2021/09/07/attention-florida-obsessed-covid-media-lets-cross-the-country-and-check-on-a-democrat-run-state-n439288
Im sorry, (but not much) these vaccines have NO place in medicine. ZERO! NADA. They are specifically designed to encode your DNA with the spike protien. Which is cytotoxic. It is a weapon, a part B of a multi part bioweapon. Pfzier is a criminal org. If anyone spent time understanding and reasearching their:
History of being sued repeatedly
And their vile contract with the nations, and see who is getting richer, one would realize this is about profit for some and population control for others.
Moderna or Mode-rna is the same. A project of Bil Gates.
The others are no better.
No Gov. The poison has NO place in treatment of anything.
Sure would be easy to mandate vaccination, which as you say is Part B of a bioweapon, and suddenly commence aerial spraying of Part C, and Viola the United States has just lost the war and never fired a shot.
The survivors would be seeing UN tanks rolling down our streets while the Chinese are flying our jets.
That puts this in a whole new light
It has occurred to me that the survivors will have it even worse than those who check out early. But someone has to stick around to bear witness to these atrocities and help to save humanity from itself.
Desantis is a hero. I fear for his life.
The CDC quietly redefined its definition of “vaccination” on 1 September 2021. This is the Ministry of Truth rewriting “science”.
The WHO also changed it’s definition of immunity, deleting the age old concept of natural immunity to favor vaccine immunity, which is an outright lie. Vaccine immunity for coronaviruses is widely known to be limited and fleeting due to variants.
Disturbing stuff is that the Australian NSW daily numbers note where the deceased acquired Cv, if known…. on a rough count over some weeks, 1 in 3 contagions happened in a hospital.
The so called vaccine is just another means to divide people, another means to keep people from joining together to resist the Great Reset.
Contrast that w/ the Newfoundland and Labrador leader who has just announced that, because of 5 new cases, N.F. and Labrador will be instituting Vax Passes.
In his video explanation he makes it clear that he has NOT been following the science- or even the NEWS- by stating that the Vax will completely wipe out Covid 19.
Yep. Nobody will get Covid if they just get the vax. That what he says.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/covid-nl-sept-7-2021-1.6166699
The problem is the vaxxed. The unvaxxed aren’t demanding the vaxxed do anything whereas many of the vaxxed want to drag the unvaxxed out into the street and rape them with a syringe. Or jail them or just starve them to death.
I think it’s best just to avoid anyone you know or suspect was vaxxed or lie to them about your status as they might very well turn your name in to those jab squads Biden is sending around the country or CPS etc.
I agree 100% Also President Trump isn’t going to help. He is super pro Jab. I would back a Conservative that is anti Jab but there isn’t one.
All you need to do is wait them out. If the vaxxed don’t have sudden catastrophic health events themselves, they will certainly see other vaxxed people having them. And then they will get the drift.
His is a reasonable and sensible approach.
Not approved by Big Pharma and others profiting in power and wealth.
All the angst and strife don’t match up to the actual threat of COVID. For vast overwhelming majority, it’s a cold.
The death rate is much higher than seasonal flu for all demographics. However, there is no justification to the abject terror or draconian containment measures being pushed by public health authorities.
We won’t get near those vaccines. The vaccines are killing the elderly too. Repurposed drugs should be given.
What is it the libs keep preaching? Oh, yes, follow the science. Sounds like Governor DeSantis is doing just that. Must be making the libs freak out.
As for the COVID … sounds like it is doing what other viruses usually do … as it evolves, the variants are more easily spread but are less dangerous. So I may one day get infected and it’ll seem like nothing more than a nasty cold … an inconvenience with a nasty sneeze that’ll pass after a week or so. I’m a-shakin’ and a-quiverin’ in my boots.
If you are a high risk patient you can take simple precautions to avoid a trip to the hospital. Early intervention is your friend.
The industry that brought rural America the OxyContin epidemic. The same company (J&J) that marketed talcum powder to black women for a decade know that it caused cancer. I don’t know how anybody not on the Big Pharma pay-roll can support them. They exist to make money–not cures!
De Santis is really the only governor manifesting MAGA.
Perhaps it’s his military justice background or his proximity to Trump.
The feds must be itching to invade Florida, the threat of a good example is not allowed.
Judge reverses decision ordering hospital to treat patients w/ivermectin. Sign of the thorough evil and insane times in whcih we live.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/judge-reverses-decision-ordering-hospital-to-treat-patient-with-ivermectin
“DR. PETER MCCULLOUGH:URGENT UPDATE ON FDA MALFEASANCE & MORE! – TOTALLY DESTROYS THE COVID NARRATIVE”
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fCjhExIZl9s4/
Why in the World Is the Government Disrupting the Distribution of
Monoclonal Antibodies Now? – PJ Media
A: To pu$h more vaccines–even if it kills people. Plus, it was helping DeSantis help people.
Georgia Bulldogs facing highest spike yet despite 90% of the team being vaccinated.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/were-at-our-highest-spike-georgia-bulldogs-dealing-with-covid-outbreak-among-vaccinated
The standard BS line for this, well they would have gotten it worse. Tails I win, heads you lose.