The FUBAR in Afghanistan is so large in scope and failure, the Pentagon appears to be throwing the White House under the bus; and they are being considerably obtuse while doing it…. or are they?
If these reports from Daily Mail and Wall Street Journal are accurate, the Pentagon is claiming that Joint Chief’s Chairman General Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin warned Joe Biden about the pending collapse of Afghanistan if 2,500 troops were removed. However, both Milley and Austin are on record only a few weeks before the collapse saying exactly the opposite.
(Via Wall Street Journal) – In his Monday speech defending America’s chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, President Biden said he would not shrink from his share of responsibility.
That would include his decision to bring home U.S. troops, which was made against the recommendations of his top military generals and many diplomats, who warned that a hasty withdrawal would undermine security in Afghanistan, several administration and defense officials said.
The president’s top generals, including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley, urged Mr. Biden to keep a force of about 2,500 troops, the size he inherited, while seeking a peace agreement between warring Afghan factions, to help maintain stability. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, who previously served as a military commander in the region, said a full withdrawal wouldn’t provide any insurance against instability.
In a series of meetings leading up to his decision, military and intelligence officials told Mr. Biden that security was deteriorating in Afghanistan, and they expressed concerns both about the capabilities of the Afghan military and the Taliban’s likely ability to take over major Afghan cities.
Other advisers, including Secretary of State Antony Blinken and national security adviser Jake Sullivan, raised the possibility of Taliban attacks on U.S. forces and diplomats as well as the Afghans who for two decades worked alongside them. (read more)
I’m not here to defend Joe Biden, not even close; I believe the man is inept, functionally and cognitively out of touch, and completely illegitimate. However, there’s more in the background context for these (and similar) articles.
The DC “conservative” media appear to be framing these articles to give the illusion of current conflict between the White House and the Pentagon, by conflating statements made long ago (before Biden made the withdrawal announcement in April), with recent positions. The actual statements of Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin to congress only a few weeks ago run directly counter to the claims in the articles. I would advise people not to take these articles by DC media at face value…. they too have an agenda.
Here are Milley and Austin speaking specifically to the situation in Afghanistan shortly before the crisis unfolded. {4 minutes, prompted}
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Secretary Austin and General Milley did not hold the position that collapse of the Afghanistan government was likely, and did not claim that troops would be needed, and did not claim that Bagram AFB should be kept open. Their position, as demonstrably evident, was exactly the opposite.
So why is the Wall Street Journal trying to defend the Pentagon from the mess they created, and also throw Biden under the bus?
Joe Biden, General Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Austin are all equally to blame.
The Wall Street Journal appears to be defending the military industrial complex, by separating Biden from Milley and Austin.

Perhaps the DC media are counting on readers not doing their own research and not knowing the full background.
Sketchy.
Other than CYA?
Leo believes that Joe Biden is the perfect President for the Deep State…an unaware target to offer up as the sacrificial lamb for the disasters that are unfolding.
The people surrounding him, and actually running things, are Obama people, not Biden people…Klain, Psaki, Rice, etc…and they don’t care about Biden…AT.ALL. They are intent on pushing their leftist and Marxist policies, and if/when things blow up, Biden will take the heat.
And when the heat finally gets too great…they will dispose of him…and then move on to HeelsUp…rinse, repeat…
Agree! ChiCom Joe will read anything put on the teleprompter without questioning. Doing what he is told so he doesn’t get in trouble and so he can get his ice cream for doing a good job. Just pathetic.
We should vote for people that will bring these generals for criminal charges.
The thing about unstable GVTS is that they are unstable. Unfortunately that now accurately describes the fomer USA.
Also, it seems people aren’t willing to blame Trump for things anymore inspite of media (not that they ever fully were).
If they don’t have “orange man bad” excuse….they’ve got nothing. So, the rats jump ship.
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Who is more to blame for the Taliban taking over Afghanistan, President Biden or former President Trump?
Biden 51%
Trump 38%
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Afghanistan: Voters Blame Biden, Not Trump, for Taliban Takeover
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So if Joe steps down and Harris becomes President, she gets to appoint a new VP right?
If so, and if she appoints Susan Rice as VP or Hillary Clinton as VP and then Harris resigns,
is the country now stuck with Rice or Clinton as President?
Neither one were elected by the people so is this the ultimate back door play?
She would not get to “appoint” a new VP. She can recommend one and that person must receive both House and Senate majority approval. Senate being 50/50, that would be a long shot.
“Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress,” reads the 25th Amendment.
She doesn’t hold the deciding vote anymore if she was pushed in. So it would be unprecedented.
Maybe she can appoint Trump 🙂 I saw this in the open thread.
Before that happens, Durham should come calling. (sacrafont) 😉
I’m a bit surprised Milley nor Austin have resigned yet. This is a failure of epic proportions that was entirely preventable by them.
I don’t care how Xiden gets the 20 pound hammer. That filth bag MF was also in the Senate 2 years when Saigon fell and he was instrumental in doing the same thing to people there at the time.
It’s just one long azz Groundhog Day. Except, with much better actors than Bill Murray. Or, perhaps, the electorate is that much dumber.
They are all dirty. One long continuum. The IC/NSC will get it next, as well they should. They’ll all eventually eat each other.
Here is what matters. Trump had an agreement to have everything out by May 1st. All contractors, everything.
Who decided on a new timeline and did they OK that with the Taliban?
Did the military not know the timeline?
Trump would not abandon Americans, he defends them. Hidin Biden’s open southern border strategy demonstrates that negative impacts on Americans mean nothing to him.
And didnt they virtue signal specifically about not doing it? If so, treason, insubordination, etc….
How dare you? President Biden said the truth when he promised that there was no chance that Kabul be Saigon, and indeed it is still called Kabul not Saigon, and moreover, just as he promised, there would be no people trying get off the US embassy roof, and indeed not a single refugee is trying to get off that, none. Now that is real forward looking strategic vision, if I have ever seen one.
Modern Milley and Austin are nothing but eunuchs. Hard to believe anyone would be ignorant enough to trust these two with anything but destroying the US military. They’re a perfect fit with the rest of the Odumbo Soreass crowd who are doing everything possible to crush America from within
Perhaps this is their play to force Biden OUT and make room for VP Kamala Harris to take over.
If anyone can find her.
She is under someone’s desk thats for sure.
When Kamala was in high school she worked part-time at Costco…
She said she didn’t want to work at BJ’s…Just give them 🙂
So let’s say Harris takes over and select Hillary as her vp
Then Harris resign ps for health reasons let’s say.
Now we are stuck with unelected Hillary as President right?
Not happening. Obama hates the Clintons and he thinks he’s the puppet master although he’s on the strings of the Deep State. Obama is a citizen of the world and when in office, he tried to bring down America to the level of the EU and it’s obvious that Biden’s policies are designed to do the same thing. If anything, Obama will try to limit Clinton influence further–maybe an Epstein squeal forthcoming.
Biden, meanwhile, is expendable…always has been.
Their (Obama/Deep State) stupidity is that they think China and Russia will play nice if America is brought down to form this new global world order government.
Taiwan & Ukraine should be very worried, particularly Taiwan. It’s a Buyer’s market in terms of Land grab right now.
What a goat rope!
In a collectivist State, be it fascism or communism, the name of the person sitting in the leader’s chair doesn’t matter. The role of playing leader was passed down the line in the Soviet Union, from one moribund member of the Politburo to another. As we see with Biden, you inherit the leadership, you don’t earn it, just as in a feudalist culture. Prince Charles, the worthless Prince Charles, will be King of England. Nobody picks.
The concept of individual merit only matters in liberal democracy. The 2020 election was rigged in the perceived best interests of the State. Biden’s capability was as irrelevant as his favorite flavor of pudding.
Collectivism is deeply antipathetic to the very concept of individual rights; that includes the aspirations of advancement based on merit. Milley the incompetent one is Chairman of the Joint Chiefs because he strives to remain in the good graces of the State. His merit for the job is laughably superfluous. This conceit is why collectivist States always fail. This is why liberal democracy is better. Duh..
Maybe because Biden has served his purpose and now they’re on to the next phase? But hard to imagine the cackling incompetent Kamala is anyone who can be taken seriously – even though she probably knows what day it is.
The intent was to have the fake black president and then a female (killary) then pull the plug on this country but she didn’t win.
well some actually takes Biden seriously…so there’s that
Not intending to be out of context, but since the newest email server has been implemented the graphic images are out of focus and very pixelated – terrible. Can someone provide a tech contact I can notify?
The email address is in the upper right hand corner for the home page.
Step 1: Create distance from
Biden.
Step 2: Keep the blame on Biden.
Step 3: Create a narrative that the US needs to stabilize Afghanistan, and the generals have a clever plan.
Step 4: Escalate military action in Afghanistan, get the blood flowing into the feeding trough again.
I was thinking about those lines.
Biden’s breaking the deal with the Taliban by extending the date of the American Exit was likely seen, properly, by the Taliban as an extension of the war.
The Globalists, Deep State and Neocons simply did not want the money train to end so they enlisted the Biden People to handle it. But the Biden people were so incompetent that they money train got stopped in a way that the People Noticed.
Ooops… so now they need a scapegoat. They need to show what a humanitarian disaster Afghanistan is becoming… pictures of girls, journalists, allies, etc… being beat up. Perhaps sowing the seeds for our return.
Trump properly said, IMHO, that he was NOT the “President of the World”. It’s really none of our business… but the American Polity has become corrupt to the core.
I think you meant to say “get the $$$ flowing into the feeding trough again.”
Blood, in the sense of the lives of our young and those of innocent civilians; and blood in the sense of the wealth of our nation.
Its about power and money, the two being interchangeable, like energy and mass.
Milley-Vaniley was General Macho, by threatening to hand in his resignation rather than calling in troops to help quell the D.C. riots and protect the White House.
However when the installed grifter told the general he was going to cut the Afghan defense force off at the knees by pulling the 2500 operators, pulling air support, and closing Bagraham and turning off the lights, Milley I suppose mildly expressed his disagreement, and nodded. If true this man, among other things is too stupid to lead the nations troops. A field first e-7 could have told him the consequences of Biden’s actions.
time for the deep state to scapegoat Bidan and bring in Harris
then announce, a change of course
suits the entire old white male is the biggest problem in the world
its a setup
I’ve said it before, and I will say it again; the dems have been looking for a way out to remove Biden when they can no longer cover for his mental incapacity. Question is, did they stumble upon this opportunity or did they help facilitate it? Biden may not be gone tomorrow, or the day after, but “his” handling of this mess is going to be at the top of the list come blame game time. The dems didn’t mind coming together to oust someone as powerful as Trump. They wouldn’t hesitate to do the same to Biden. Only thing to watch out for is them not bringing their full effort, assuming Biden will be a pushover. They might just get so cocky as to leave an obvious trail of their intent. Watch for evidence
WSJ was an initial sign on to the comically named Trusted News Initiative (think operation mockinbird) https://www.rwmalonemd.com/news/tmlbdkpmg8plk35fdnlmx2xgzc8b2r
I don’t think blame shifting is going to work on this one—way, way too big. Just wait until they start interviewing the “loved ones” of the captives tearfully pleading for their return. I don’t see how this whole things ends without, perhaps, a disaster bigger than anything previously seen.
God is moving the chess pieces on the evildoers
You say this is coming from the conservative side of the uniparty propaganda army.
If it were the dominant liberal side, I would think it might be a sign of ousting Biden.
But the conservative side only plays for outrage, never action. Their target is anyone who is patriotic, has faith in, respect for, or gratitude for the military. We are to be outraged into voting for more decepticons. And we are to hold dear to all of those things as the military continues to betray America and Americans.
BTW, they just want you angry and distracted. Dare protest, and they will call you traitor.
Milley cannot dodge this by blaming Biden. He told the world, not long ago, the Afghan Army was well up to the task. Those were not Biden’s words. They were Milley’s.
They ALL have to be taken down. Besides, Milley already has four stars. How many more is he coveting?
Milley and Austin DESERVE AND MUST get the boot out the door on their butts.
Milley should be court-martialed and given a dishonorable discharge – stripped of all retirement rights and pay.
Right on. Milley and Austin were in charge. The idea that Senile Biden, who can barely tie his shoes, overrode the Geneals on the details of the withdrawl and caused this disaster is absurd. Biden just wanted to get out of Afghanistan, quite correctly too. The chaos and collapse occured because the Afghan army that has been trained and equipped by Milley and the US Military simply disinagrated without putting up any resistance. How is Biden to be blamed for that?
The obvious game played by the WSJ is to save “their boys”. Milley and Austin. These two deep staters are liked by the MSM and they want to protect them.
My view is that he overrode them on staying forever. And they all bungled the rest.
Well, he could covet up to six total stars. The highest ranks awarded were Dewey’s Admiral of the Navy and Pershing’s General of the Armies. These were both done before the five star rank was created, but those were inferior to Pershing. He died before Congress could make it a six star rank. In ’76 Congress awarded that rank to George Washington too.
It doesn’t matter who they make a scapegoat
I blame every last one of them that are in our government
Time for a Coup
No. It’s time to END the Coup that happened on Nov. 3 and was fully implemented Jan. 20.
nothing new for the WSJ, they have been in the military industrial complex bag for YEARS
They are paving the way for the first black female Marxist. People need to call on the entire administration to resign! Harris can not be allowed to take that seat.
We need snap election. Let rightful president be seated.
YEs, public hard outcry for the entire Fakeadministration to resign, everyone. Pentagon asshats too
Why are there so many Americans in Afghanistan?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
And what do they do there?
Well, after taking a high risk job, very lucratively rewarded for that high risk, they beg for help because those risks were real.
The jobs probably all have to do with funneling those trillions spent to help Afghanistan back to America.
That makes me curious. What are their employers doing to help them? Are there any Perot types who will save their people? Or were they all abandoned, just like our government employees ?
Build roads.
Distribute American tax and bribery dollars through NGOs.
Feed Americans (although I have to say, have eaten at two “Afghan” restaurants — one in DC, one on California coast — and it was memorably good food)
Did you never watch Lord of War? You should!
Contractors— they funnel the war-time funding back to the USA, to the powerful few.
The DC Swamp gets fatter, richer, nastier, and abusive.
Contractors. With connections in high places. Now abandoned by their powerful DC betters, look for many to respond by exposing these games. It’s gonna get real ugly before this storm is over.
President Trump was Fauxpeached over a no-issue phone call. Why does Biden and Harris still jobs? He can‘t make calls and Harris is MIA. The Canadian idiot is speaking with Hillary Clinton.
Why hasn’t the WH released any transcripts of his phone conversations during his Installation?
Rules for we and not for theee…………..Socialism only affects the people, not the Socialists (Commies)
Biden is a lame duck and therefor, expendable.
The WSJ is protecting these very poor excuses for military leadership because they are card carrying members of our deep state establishment, and because the WSJ is also a key member of the Obama / Biden / Harris / Pelosi / Schumer / McConnell administration’s propaganda ministry.
HeelsUp Kamala is in hiding, the Woke Military Leaders and many dems are turning on Jobama, except for smoke screen from Piglosi. Maybe Heels Up is polishing her acceptance speech?
There should be a full court press on outing 3% Kamala’s downright weak , unlikeable, and vastly irresponsible behavior. She had no business being placed in that position as VP. Obiden cut a deal with Clyburn in South Carolina for the black vote. No one wants hear that they’ve deceived and their vote was negotiated .
Perhaps the DC media are counting on readers not doing their own research and not knowing the full background.
I would say they know their audience well.
CYA, blame placed solely on President Dementia.
(Only a matter of time till 25’d anyway)
Mission:Afghan Planned Debacle ✅
No consequences to Military Leadership
Proceed to next Destroy America Mission
The CJCS and SecDef must be fired immediately. They had NO contingency plan in place to evacuate personnel. They had NO contingency plan to destroy weapons. Yes, Biden is incapable of decisioning, so all the more reason Miley and Austin should have been prepared. Instead, they appear to be more interested in a woke military, climate change, and faux COVID. In the meantime, Rome burns.
The estimable Raheem Kassam tweeted out a little while ago the following…
” Big story coming out today. I mean really big.
Bye-den (hand wave)”. While under normal circumstances I’d pray this is true, the ONLY phrase I can think of is “out of the frying pan, into the fire”. IF it comes to pass, then who would become VP?
My entreaties to Almighty God are becoming more and more urgent.
Can you say Hillary?
Making her one heart beat away from President, her life long dream.
Don’t think that didn’t occur to me EXCEPT the woman of questionable character who would inherit the POTUS chair would know she’d be doing so covered in bullseyes. Some how I can’t see it. The garbage dump from which they could choose is overflowing.
Ah… I see this issue has been addressed in part above in earlier comments. There’s no happy ending no matter how this plays out.
She’d have to be confirmed, and I don’t think even the rinos would confirm her with Benghazi baggage, and health problems. Too similar to biden.
They would operate WITHOUT a VP. It’s happened before. 1945 – 1947 & 1963 -1965
The Arizona audits have become even more important. The fraudulent election of Biden, with duties performed by the unelected bureaucrats and globalists pulling his strings, must be exposed. I am going to pray extra hard tonight. The very survival of our country is at stake.
Jill Biden must be so proud of her man, and all the work she did to put where he is today.
Wait, I thought the Fourth Branch, the “Intelligence Community,” was in charge.
Can scapegoating analysis of the biggest national FUBAR in recent memory (with more fallout undoubtedly to come in its wake) not start, or at a minimum include, the IC?
What am I missing?
nothing – so you are now officially censored. LOL
I don’t understand your question. Of course nothing is going to happen to the IC. They run everything.
The 25th is going to be used very soon and this is the start.
The radical Austin and Milley are taking orders from someone other then dementia Joe and soon camel toe will be shifted
So, the Deputy Secretary Of State (didn’t catch her name), addresses the horrific situation in Afghanistan to say that the International Community is watching to see that women and girls get the rights they have come to expect (paraphrasing). There are perhaps THOUSANDS of Americans “sheltered in place”, and their most immediate concern most likely has absolutely NOTHING to do with “women’s rights”. These people are clowns, incompetent, and it would be laughable if it weren’t for the extreme seriousness of the situation. Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who had a place in this administration, from the top on down, needs to be fired. I don’t care if they are secretarial staff or the senile old man who thinks he is POTUS. The finger-pointing means nothing. No one is worthy of being in a position of authority.
This dumpster fire is deliberate. What are they planning or doing elsewhere.
Someone explain how these two military leaders disobeyed direct orders from President Trump and took some actions without his approval but didn’t disobey ChiCom Joe’s disastrous immediate withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan? So our “woke” military leaders followed ChiCom Joe’s orders to the letter knowing his orders would result in the humanitarian mess that is just beginning to unfold! Wonder why they didn’t disobey ChiCom Joe like they did to President Trump and keep the 2500 troops there until the evacuation of our personnel was complete? No they blow off President Trump and follow this complete idiot word salad ice cream eating demented pervert ChiCom Joe over the cliff of total incompetence into the bottomless pit of evil! God help the people of Afghanistan because He is the only one who can at this point in time!
FN liars. These people are beyond disgusting. Very strong dislike going on here.
Based on many of SD’s past writings, and the factual source material provided for review, I believe this is the typical shell game the D’s use in inner city schools; applied to the Presidency.
Superintendent A comes in and promises the world if she gets all this money. She hires friends, relatives, and specifically relatives of the pols who installed her. She fails miserably, and at some point resigns, is jailed for embezzlement, or a new admin takes over and relieves her of her duties.
Superintendent B gets hired and says a bunch of crap he doesn’t believe about how his programs will be so much better. He goes on to repeat the above process. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Kamala’s gonna be President soon, but not before Joe got his 10%, the arms dealers got their billions, and we lose hundreds or thousands of service men and women. They’ll all talk about how Joe messed up too much and how they’ll do it differently. But they won’t.
So who will be obamas new meat puppet once they can remove this fiasco .?
To be short and to the point:
General Milly “Vanilly”
Secretary of Something “The $1 Dollar Man” Stevie Wonder Austin
When Sock Puppet Biden is relegated to the dirty laundry bin…these two will remain as Use Rug Kamala’s dynamic duo. So, some shred of credibility must remain.
Sundance hit the proverbial nail on the head….more than 75% of Americans are only headline of the day literate.
Joe Biden is merely a ventriloquist dummy for the Obama cabal which runs the government from behind the scenes and which makes all the important decisions. Milley and Austin are products of the Obama-era DOD and know who their true masters are. They will do and say whatever the Obama cabal tells them to do and say.
In addition to being the front face of the Obama third term, Biden has several mission assignments from the Obama team. The most important of those several assignments is to take the heat for whatever happens to go wrong during Obama’s de-facto third term.
Joe himself knows it, Jill knows it, Kamala knows it, Nancy knows it, and every other senior Democrat knows it.
What we are seeing with this supposed conflict of policy viewpoints among Biden, Milley, and Austin is mere Kabuki Theater. IMHO, Biden will stay on as puppet president until his pre-scheduled resignation date, probably in early 2023.
At which point Kamala Harris will replace Biden as the Obama cabal’s puppet president under a plan where blatant in-your-face election fraud keeps her in office for another ten years through the year 2032. Those additional two terms will count — for all practical purposes — as Obama’s de facto fourth and fifth presidential terms.
Joe and Jill went up the hill,
to fetch Obama’s water.
Joe fell down and broke his crown,
and Jill came bumbling after.
Up Joe got, and home did trot,
as fast as he could caper,
He went to bed to mend his head,
with vinegar and green paper.
To be short and to the point:
General Milly “Vanilly”
Secretary of Something “The $1 Dollar Man” Stevie Wonder Austin
When Sock Puppet Biden is relegated to the dirty laundry bin…these two will remain as Use Rug Kamala’s dynamic duo. So, some shred of credibility must remain.
Sundance hit the proverbial nail on the head….more than 75% of Americans are only headline of the day literate.
Why does the US have a military? Obviously it’s not to protect the Homeland from invasion. I see two reasons why the US has a military
1. Perpetual foreign wars to enrich defense corporations.
2. Promoting totalitarian socialism.
Why not save $trillions and uncounted lives, hire a mercenary force to secure the border, and shitcan the Pentagon?
Even if these folk thought that the removal of the American troops would result in collapse of the government, they still had the responsibility to plan and execute for that probability. They are absolved of nothing.
When things get botched this bad, the mice start running for cover and play the blame game. Doesn’t matter what they said before, they’ll tell you what they said means something different than what they said. The media picks their sides, and no one but MSNBC can stomach standing behind Biden on this one. I was surprised to find CNN actually reporting the news on this debacle and jumping all over Biden and his administration. We’ll see how long that lasts.
Who gives a damn who said what when? It’s what was done that counts. No president makes the decision to abandon 5-10,000 Americans, leaving them at the mercy of 7th Century barbarians. Biden owns the decision to do so.
https://patriotpost.us/articles/80930-in-brief-afghanistan-is-much-worse-than-you-realize-2021-06-29?mailing_id=6057&utm_medium=email&utm_source=pp.email.6057&utm_campaign=alexander&utm_content=body
“In the usual partisan blame game, Republicans are declaring that this wouldn’t have happened on Trump’s watch because he would have been strong and tough, or something. But I remember what Trump did, and if you’re a regular reader of this newsletter, you remember because I warned you about it. I linked last year to Shay Khatiri’s excellent summary of the Trump administration’s deal with the Taliban, which he described as “surrender with reparations.” This deal, including the mass release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners, created the conditions for the current collapse. ”
The Tracinski Letter | PO Box 6997, Charlottesville, VA 22906
So why throw Biden under the bus. To save their own careers.
we cannot let them escape from all this…….Be vocal, be angry, tell them you won’t allow this anymore
THAT’S a given! Also….because NOW Obama is safe to begin getting rid of Biden and install Kamala. That was his plan all along. She’s just his puppet-willingly.
Obama is not that smart
They were saving Hunter’s laptop for just such an occasion
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it’s definitely a face card now.
To install Kamala.
To reignite American fears over Taliban.
To reinitiate the War on Terror ($$$$$$….)
To flood Europe with refugees.
To flood our border with refugees.
Same Deep State recipe.