The FUBAR in Afghanistan is so large in scope and failure, the Pentagon appears to be throwing the White House under the bus; and they are being considerably obtuse while doing it…. or are they?
If these reports from Daily Mail and Wall Street Journal are accurate, the Pentagon is claiming that Joint Chief’s Chairman General Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin warned Joe Biden about the pending collapse of Afghanistan if 2,500 troops were removed. However, both Milley and Austin are on record only a few weeks before the collapse saying exactly the opposite.
(Via Wall Street Journal) – In his Monday speech defending America’s chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, President Biden said he would not shrink from his share of responsibility.
That would include his decision to bring home U.S. troops, which was made against the recommendations of his top military generals and many diplomats, who warned that a hasty withdrawal would undermine security in Afghanistan, several administration and defense officials said.
The president’s top generals, including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley, urged Mr. Biden to keep a force of about 2,500 troops, the size he inherited, while seeking a peace agreement between warring Afghan factions, to help maintain stability. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, who previously served as a military commander in the region, said a full withdrawal wouldn’t provide any insurance against instability.
In a series of meetings leading up to his decision, military and intelligence officials told Mr. Biden that security was deteriorating in Afghanistan, and they expressed concerns both about the capabilities of the Afghan military and the Taliban’s likely ability to take over major Afghan cities.
Other advisers, including Secretary of State Antony Blinken and national security adviser Jake Sullivan, raised the possibility of Taliban attacks on U.S. forces and diplomats as well as the Afghans who for two decades worked alongside them. (read more)
I’m not here to defend Joe Biden, not even close; I believe the man is inept, functionally and cognitively out of touch, and completely illegitimate. However, there’s more in the background context for these (and similar) articles.
The DC “conservative” media appear to be framing these articles to give the illusion of current conflict between the White House and the Pentagon, by conflating statements made long ago (before Biden made the withdrawal announcement in April), with recent positions. The actual statements of Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin to congress only a few weeks ago run directly counter to the claims in the articles. I would advise people not to take these articles by DC media at face value…. they too have an agenda.
Here are Milley and Austin speaking specifically to the situation in Afghanistan shortly before the crisis unfolded. {4 minutes, prompted}
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Secretary Austin and General Milley did not hold the position that collapse of the Afghanistan government was likely, and did not claim that troops would be needed, and did not claim that Bagram AFB should be kept open. Their position, as demonstrably evident, was exactly the opposite.
So why is the Wall Street Journal trying to defend the Pentagon from the mess they created, and also throw Biden under the bus?
Joe Biden, General Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Austin are all equally to blame.
The Wall Street Journal appears to be defending the military industrial complex, by separating Biden from Milley and Austin.
Perhaps the DC media are counting on readers not doing their own research and not knowing the full background.
Sketchy.
When we win this you, Sundance, better be President Trump’s closest advisor!!
Laying the groundwork for Biden’s removal?
My thoughts exactly. At the supermarket today I saw a headline ” Does Biden have dementia?” and my first thought was,’ here we go’. I hope they have an extra long bus to accommodate all the people who will be underneath it.
does Dr. Jill know?
can’t wait to see her crash & burn
General Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin. Where are the ‘good’ guys in the military. Valkyrie.
No they are good guys like in Dumb and Dumber.
Dumb and Dumber are annoyingly unfunny. These 2 coup members need to go.
They are sheltering in place with the “white hats” at DOJ & FBI
A clue to who is positioning to rule once Biden is ousted?
Well the House, Senate and Supreme Court have completely disregarded the constitution since the installation of Biden, so my prediction is Barry will be starting his third term soon.
Barry started his third term on January 20.
Prepping Kamala to save the day, and for Biden to bow out due to dementia, which will be used in every election campaign to denounce >70 year olds from running for office. Next up to bat: Buttigieg.
I’m reading that she was an anchor baby and cannot be a legitimate President.
Not that they ever follow the rules.
Third-in-line:
APRIL 14, 2021 PRESS RELEASE
Pelosi Statement on Biden
Administration’s Announcement of Timeline for Departure of U.S. Troops From Afghanistan
Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued this statement after President Biden announced that all U.S. troops will be withdrawn from Afghanistan by September 11, 2021:
“The Biden Administration’s announced timeline for the safe, strategic and orderly departure of American troops from Afghanistan is an important and welcomed development. As Speaker, I support this transition and President Biden’s leadership to protect the safety of our troops and the security of the American people, which must be our priority.
“The United States Congress remains committed to advancing peace and security in Afghanistan and the region, including an inclusive Afghan government that respects the human rights of all its people. It is imperative that the hard-won gains secured by and for Afghan women and girls are not erased. Congress will be working closely with the Administration to ensure that our support for our Afghan partners remains strong and that this transition is orderly and made in coordination with our allies.
“As we mark twenty years since the tragedy of September 11, we look forward to welcoming our heroic troops back to American shores safely as soon as possible.”
Watch Rachel Maddow. She will signal their strategy to either preserve or dump Joe.
Combine this with the news Harris and her staff refused to do a press conference. She is distancing herself from his disasters, including the border. Lines have been drawn.
Can’t wait until Biden comes to California to campaign with Newsom against his recall. That will truly be dumb and dumber.
The problem pointed out here I believe is that if Kamala Harris ascends to the presidency the Republicans take over the Senate. No bueno.
How do you figure that?
Excellent expose, Sundance.
These fake generals give fake testimony to a fake President and expect to be taken seriously.
Unfortunately for them a lot of us have not been faked out.
They are playing thimblerig, but they aren’t very good at it.
can we just give all three of them to the Taliban in exchange for our drones?
asking for Bergdahl.
Good cop, bad cop routine. It’s all a smokescreen to hide the deliberate managed decline. The ones pulling the strings are doing all this to facilitate the CCP’s rise.
Biden has dementia. He neither discussed nor decided anything concerning Afghanistan.
RIGHT!!
Bingo! The elephant in the room that no one talks about. He’s not in control and his chief of staff and lackies are making decisions that are destroying America. Why do you think Dementia Joe isn’t calling foreign leaders.. Because his staff made the decision to pull out because they’re all Marxists and don’t know what they are doing!
100% correct! Joe Biden did not write his speech; he was told to read what was put in front of him. I suspect the POS Obama had the speech writers prepare it for Biden to read…It’s part of Obama’s continuous plan to take down America.
I seriously doubt that Biden is even cognizant of what he is saying when he struggles to read his speeches. His dementia is getting worse, and the medications they are pumping him full of are not working. That is why he puts a lid on early, or disappears. You see his decline in his walking, in his mannerisms, so they have to hide him, just like during election season. Trouble is he fails at even the smallest appearances, which is hurting Obama’s third term.
There’s PLENTY of room for all under that bus.
Here we go…so predictable; I said earlier that Democrats’ internal polling must be in the toilet. It is.
Biden Sinks 19 Points Underwater in Daily Tracking Poll, Strong Approval Collapses
https://humanevents.com/2021/08/18/biden-sinks-19-points-underwater-in-daily-tracking-poll-strong-approval-collapses/?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true
Democrat presidents don’t usually get bad poll numbers for two main reasons…
1). Skewed polling in their favor
3). Democrat voters never, never say they disapprove of their president. They just don’t. No matter how bad. No matter what. They’ll consistently give a 90+% approval. Repub voters are very critical of their president, on the other hand.
So, for Biden to have such a bad approval…it indicates to me there is real voter regret within the democrat base.
It still isn’t helping put the truly elected President back in power though.
Silver lining to an atrocity.
FUBAR and major CYA….The three of them together are see no evil, hear no evil and cognitively impaired Joe, incapable of understanding anything beyond the flavor of ice cream he’s eating…..lord help us….
Joke’s favorite ice cream is Dirka Dirka Dip.
Anti war should join hands with conservatives to asked all the generals to resign an charge them criminally.
“Ask them to resign . . . .”? Right! Yes, I’m sure that approach would have worked on Hitler, but unfortunately nobody thought to ask him to “please stop”!
We’re dealing with tyrants here, people! Wake up!
Biden becomes the easy target and since they know he’s short term, it’s a no brainer.
They have lost all credibility. No one with half a brain is listening to those two buffoons. I couldn’t care less what any of them have to say.
Why hasn’t Adm. Kirby – Pentagon Press Sec. – tweeted since yesterday?
Milley and Austin are still useful tools for the left.
Joe’s usefulness has probably expired in the minds of his handlers.
It is indeed difficult to parse socialist strategy from socialist shitshow.
Hahahaha! Thanks for the chuckle =]
They’re all liars.
Factions?
They all know what is going on with Biden healthwise.
Factions doing whatever they want. Then when SHTF…?
The Pentagon has become an overpriced Day Care Center for bourbon drunks who are now blaming the Dementia Patient for all their incompetence, which has to have set a new world record.
It unfolded way more quickly than Puppet Joe anticipated because Puppet Joe listened to, and believed, the US Military which has been claiming over the years such utter nonsense as the US Military trained and equipped Afghan Army was a mightier force than the Taliban and that they (the Infidel US Military) had won the hearts and minds of the Islamic Afghan populous. That is why they had no evacuation plan and are now doing some seat-of-the-pants latter day attempt at one.
I would say Puppet Joe followed their advice almost to perfection. But that’s because Puppet Joe has an estimated IQ of 72, whereas Trump with an estimated IQ of 144 knew the Pentagon was filled with lying back-stabbing CYA Bourbon Dynasty Drunks.
And what else did so many of these brilliant military minds do? The preponderance of them , like Mattis, McMasters, Kelly, Milley, Austin, etc. urged the American public to cast Trump out and install Biden.
90+ of this is on America’s dereliction of duty idiot Generals, not on America’s Chief Dementia Patient. It’s like someone blaming their dog.
“But that’s because Puppet *** has an estimated IQ of 72”
72? Isn’t that way too high???? Then again, you did say “estimated”….
Remember President Obama fired about 300 senior flag officers including Gen Flynn who reported that everybody was lying about Afghanistan. Then he was fired as DIA and corrupt DOJ and FBI hounded him for years.
Missed this as I was busy posting similar elsewhere on TCH.
We need to be very aware of what is going down on this.
What you won’t hear from any of those listed above or the media is that Biden was this compromised when he was installed. We all knew it, they all knew it and yet it was done.
Now to figure out the endgame of the evil people that installed Biden in the first place.
I can tell you what the end game is (that’s easy if you’ve read the book of Revelations): Destroy America and bring about one world government!
I agree overall thus my use of the term endgame was poor.
There are a lot of things that will happen and we need to counteract/overcome them before we get to endgame.
I refuse to let the fact that we subjected this nation to an incompetent goon for this many months be okay because they are removing him now. He!! no.
Dems and the media need to own that they installed an incompetent man into the office. I refuse to get caught up in the blame game and coronation of Harris.
With all the money we sent the RNC for election integrity, you’d think the complicit jerks would at least throw together some relevant commercials.
Good heavens, this administration is ripe for castigation and the UniParty sits willing by while it all goes to excrement.
The joint chiefs are doing that because they have digital files for the bearer bonds of all the Americans given to them by the Pope and they “think” they don’t need Biden anymore. The Joint Chiefs think they will use the bonds to fund their RV. They are greatly mistaken though.
https://annavonreitz.com/bondscantfundrv.pdf
General Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin must go down along with whoever controls them. Biden is a puppet, everyone knows that.
Globalist
Since I am so black pilled at this point;
They are carving out Biden to get him to resign. I doubt Kamala stays in his place. Someone, Nancy, steps in right before clear evidence of election fraud produced.
Well, Biden wasn’t really elected. We don’t have to look any further, because he is gone. Speaker of the House should remain, because precedent/constitutional crisis blah blah. They must do this all before 2022 when Pelosi would likely loose her seat as speaker.
We are a Cryptocracy now.
Barely above ground.
Yes and everything we are told from them are Tales from the Crypt.
Inspired by your train of thought
“Speaker of the House should remain, because precedent/constitutional crisis blah blah.” and because the people elected a democrat to be president, biden’s replacement should also be a democrat. During these trying times we need a president with experience and the only two cognitive democrat presidents are Clinton and Obama. Obama is younger, clean and well spoken.
I can hear the propaganda press now.
Remember, Kamala bragged about being an important part of the pull out decision and was hailed as the “last person in the room.”
They got set up to burn them both. Kamala took the bait, she won’t make it through this.
Courts Martial needed for:
Sentencing should include forfeit of all pay and benefits ever received, hard time at Leavenworth, at least life with no possibility of parole.
That is curious. Maybe there was an agreement made between Joe Biden team and establishment cons: we will turn the other way while you cheat and you will help recalibrate our faux feud so that we can fit comfortably back into our old republican / Democrat roles?
OANN is claiming that everyone in the administration is fighting with each other. Are they pushing a false narrative?
Everything is a false narrative. Believe none of what you see or hear. The reality is a massive coup commenced in 2015 and it is ongoing. General Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin are players in the coup, bit players at that.
Posobiec is reporting very similar. I’m afraid it is true.
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If you need a replacement for an old computer, you better get one RIGHT NOW – after Biden surrenders Taiwan to his CCP masters, we won’t be getting any advanced micro-chips.
“If you need a replacement for an old computer, you better get one RIGHT NOW – after Biden surrenders Taiwan to his CCP masters, we won’t be getting any advanced micro-chips.”
This has been on my mind along all this mess. TSMC going down to the CCP would put a big strain on tech, more than is already going on. If they also isolate South Korea either through force or coercion, the West will be royally screwed for at least a decade technologically speaking. I’d go so far as to say Europe would likely abandon the US and NATO officially and move to have China as their new Hegemon should that happen.
I believe they are. Check their other hand. While this particular squirrel has serious consequences for the country. Something else is going on. Always remember, these people are evil, rotten and corrupt to the core.
Agreed, CCV
OANN and Jack Posobeic in particular are on my trusted source list.
John Solomon, whom I mentioned predicted no American hostages in this debacle, is not.
What? You don’t believe the little hand on the tic toc clock? Solomon depleted his capital with me also.
Same here – I saw endless promises with zero deliveries. I don’t know how he stays in business.
I am waiting to see what Solomon’s side chick, Sara Carter, has to say.
Sarc/
General Sir Nick Carter, the UK’s Chief of the Defence Staff, describes the Taliban as a, ‘disparate collection of tribespeople…country boys,’ adding, ‘They happen to live by a code of honour.’ Milley is almost certainly part of this same woke group-think cabal.
It’s a miltary run by twitter feedback, terrified of micro-aggressions.
WTF. You would think a strategic withdrawal would be non essential and non combatants first, then excess weapons and portable infrastructure, and combat troops last. Are we to believe these are our best and brightest?
This would be hilarious if it were any other country but ours.
What a coincidence – that was President Trump’s plan as well.
Call your Senators and Representatives and/or forward this to them. They need to know that WE know what they are doing right now, and they are elected to provide real oversight of these people and departments. It’s not good enough to just hold Biden responsible – they are ALL responsible and they lie to us.
don’t you wish that when the dod comes to congress for more $$ for their war machine they get told to go get their equipment they left behind in Afghanistan?
Yeah, i know
wishful thinking
You’re thinking like we have a government of the people.
The three most trusted names in government: Austin, Milley, Fauci
More like Moe, Curly and Larry.
I hoped someone would add that!
But I trust Moe, Larry, Curly, & Shemp.
I don’t trust Biden, Austin, Milley, or FraudXi.
Then there is what someone told Dan Bongino about the State Dept throwing the Pentagon under the bus, after the State Dept screwed up. It wouldn’t be the 1st time. The State Dept is one large bloated screw up usually.
Maybe they have all decided it is easier to blame it all on Delusional Joe.
Bongino suffers from some kind of school girl crush on the Pentagon.
When it comes to screw ups, the State Dept is but a pale shadow to the Pentagon.
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking. This was not simply Biden’s blunder. Biden is the puppet. Those who pull the strings had to WANT this to happen. And they had to want Biden to get blamed. I believe this is the MIC’s scheme to get rid of Biden and re-legitimize endless wars, at the same time.
This is it. Comey did it to Hillary, then Trump. This cadre is double crossing Biden. We don’t want Biden tricked by the deep state either. As bad as we want him gone, with his diminished capacity tricking him needs to be considered a capital offense. This is a brutally dangerous situation.
I’m not impressed by Bongino either. Over time, he’ll sink below hannity.
Lying traitorous buffoons. They are all to blame. ALL OF THEM. I would not trust general Wokie or Sec Def SJW with a used paper bag. They helped install the pervert. Their treacherous acts are catching up with them. The truth will out.
It’s CYA time and the general and secdef either lied to Congress or they lied to slojoe.
Either way, these scumsuckers all are responsible for the debacle that continues to unfold as we watch.
Yes this is all completely fake… everyone was in agreement to get out of AfPak as soon as possible.
The military industrial complex probably decided that they have cheated enough taxpayers already..
All theatre!
Biden looks identical to Jeff Dunham’s character Walter. That is a humorous coincidence. Not so humorous is the fact that both dummies have a mind and voice behind them.
Jeff Dunham is talented.
Obama is twisted and evil.
Sundance, we need a deeper dive on this. There is indeed something way too sketchy about all of this. This level of screw up has to be intentional. As woke and idiotic as the Pentagon can be, they do know how to conduct a basic withdrawal when they want to do so. We have to surmise that in this case they didn’t want it and orchestrated a crisis and collapse that would have maximum damage on SPOTUS (Sock Puppet OTUS). Why? Cui bono? Where is this driving?
Useful idiot Joe will get full blame and the rest of the swamp criminals and media partners are off the hook. Remember half the sheeple in this country think Joe is actually making the decisions. Where is LTC Alexander Vindman and the whistleblower when you need them.
I even notice signs of leftist MSM outlets throwing Biden under the bus. I think that was eventually their plan all along; this just happens to be the flashpoint for it. And even if it is, and even if he eventually leaves office, it doesn’t leave us in any better a place. FUBAR indeed.
Never let a crisis go to waste.
Nor the opportunity to create one.
There was an article a while back that Hilary’s advisors were busy trying to make Kamala more palatable.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9864899/Dems-Clinton-advisors-held-Kamala-Harris-crisis-dinner-DC-discuss-fighting-bad-press.html
The irony abounds that advisors for the least liked woman in politics at the time are now working to make the current least liked woman more acceptable.
There’s a reason we haven’t seen much of Kamala. They’re desperate to fashion her into something they can drag through this presidency and into the next.
That is why knee pads never says anything of real substance that can ‘circle back’ to her.
She is trying to stay ‘squeaky clean’ for her own ‘installment’.
She is not, in my book, likable.
There’s a reason we haven’t seen much of Kamala. They’re desperate to fashion her into something they can drag through this presidency and into the next.
Ha ha! Good luck with that!
More acceptable if they tag-team her with Hillary… ?
No, I didn’t mean to imply we see a resurgence of Hildabeast.
My point was that dems KNOW they have a major acceptability deficit with Harris. They were scrambling to overcome it. I found it ironic that they were using a team associated with Hilary Clinton, who rivals Harris in the gross and disliked factor.
Harris had exceptionally low numbers in the Dem presidential primary. Many of us noted that she was chosen by Obama for Biden.
Overall, we did not pick Biden, he was installed.
We did not pick Harris, she was installed.
Before they impose a Harris presidency on us, it would be nice to have some audit results in and save the dems the trouble.
We need a functioning adult to take the reins of control of the USA and it sure as heck is NOT Harris.
It should be the man we elected, President Donald J. Trump.
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Have patience. Working it now. Need to be ultra precise.
Is that a South Park episode I didn’t see?
And another thought.
The usual suspects are spending a lot of time, ink, and bandwidth faulting the White House Installee Biden. Yet we know that they know Biden is an empty shell with next to zero original thoughts or cognitive ability to devise, consider, and decide upon strategy of ANY kind, be it military, economic, geopolitical or otherwise.
We must conclude they are protecting the real source(s) of commands and decisions – the shadow government operating behind this fake administration. The 4th Branch, maybe including Ozero, taking orders from which small cabal of Elite Globalists? Bilderberg, WEF,…. I think I’m getting warm….
Yeppers.
Dems are always afraid of optics. That’s why they make so many bad decisions.
And, they never accept responsibility. They always blame someone else.
I think this was such a FUBAR that many are just trying to point fingers and are in CYA mode.
I saw this headline at The Liberty Daily and I immediately thought SUNDANCE!
Either the military is pushing out Biden (and misled him) or Biden and military forced this 24/7 televised display of horror to reignite American fears and reinitiate (another) war on terror. Gotta keep that money flowing to the corrupt.
If the leadership was truly concerned, Milley and Austin would have blasted Biden in the press.
But the media has been complicit in all the lies, for decades of military engagements. And when I see the tragic images online, of bloodied victims, being 2021, I have to ask, “Is this real? Or is this a staged photo?”
Blasted PRIOR to the exit.
Did anyone catch that the WSJ referred to the White House occupant as “Mr. Biden”?
Good catch.
Tin Star Cross Dressing General Chairman Millie.
It’s a blooming costume party at the Pentagon, unbelievable.