This is not just scientific madness, it appears to be very intentional and purposeful.
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccine tests were conducted, as customary, with a control group; a group within the trial who were given a placebo and not the test vaccine. However, during the trial -and after the untested vaccines were given emergency use authorization- the vaccine companies conducting the trial decided to break protocol and notify the control group they were not vaccinated. Almost all the control group were then given the vaccine.
Purposefully dissolving the placebo group violates the scientific purpose to test whether the vaccine has any efficacy; any actual benefit and/or safety issues. Without a control group there is nothing to compare the vaccinated group against. According to NPR, the doctors lost the control group in the Johnson County Clinicial Trial (Lexena, Kansas) on purpose:
(Via NPR) […] “Dr. Carlos Fierro, who runs the study there, says every participant was called back after the Food and Drug Administration authorized the vaccine.
“During that visit we discussed the options, which included staying in the study without the vaccine,” he says, “and amazingly there were people — a couple of people — who chose that.”
He suspects those individuals got spooked by rumors about the vaccine. But everybody else who had the placebo shot went ahead and got the actual vaccine. So now Fierro has essentially no comparison group left for the ongoing study. “It’s a loss from a scientific standpoint, but given the circumstances I think it’s the right thing to do,” he says.
People signing up for these studies were not promised special treatment, but once the FDA authorized the vaccines, their developers decided to offer the shots. (read more)
Just so we are clear, the final FDA authorization and approval for the vaccines are based on the outcome of these trials. As noted in the example above, the control group was intentionally lost under the auspices of “the right thing to do”, so there is no way for the efficacy, effectiveness or safety of the vaccine itself to be measured.
There’s no one left within the control group, of a statistically valid value, to give an adequate comparison of outcomes for vaxxed -vs- non-vaxxed.
Whiskey – Tango – Foxtrot !!! This is nuts.
That NPR article is one to bookmark when people start claiming the vaccination is effective.
How can the vaccine not be considered effective when there is no group of non-vaccinated people to compare the results to?
Good grief, the entire healthcare system is operating on a massive hive mindset where science, and the scientific method, is thrown out the window in favor of ideological outcomes and self-fulfilling prophecies. The fact that the researchers and doctors, apparently under the payroll of the pharmaceutical companies that have a vested financial interest in the vaccine outcome, lost the control group on purpose is alarming.
Of course, Big Pharma will promote the vaccine as beneficial, and the controlled media will promote that message with a complete disconnect from the clinical trial details, and the FDA will grant approval on results that were intentionally constructed to produce only one outcome.
Madness…. All of it.
Call the companies administering the shots and ask them if you are part of the clinical trail and record the answer.
Ask if you can be treated as kindly as the ferrets
By the way every institution we’ve let the Left infest is like this.
Or as the joke now goes in this case (it ain’t mine but feel free to spread it as I do):
“Ten out of ten experts agree with whoever funds them.”
By the way I watched some info streams and sites compiling studies corrupted in real time as have a lot of people.
“Ten out of ten experts agree with whoever funds them.”
Mega-Keeper!
LOL
I know right? When I saw it I was like that put what I’m seeing in a one line joke that is never wrong.
I hope we all make that famous because once you realize that’s the current “scientific method” — arrange a study so it says what your moneyed interest wants– it blows so many scams wide open. (Glowbull warming, cough, cough)
I was looking into how even the avocado studies are faked for the avocado growers funding them when I saw the joke posted about COVID and it literally never fails.
We can talk about how it’s done some other time, but you can imagine it’s just like a really basic child’s two step puzzle. You just put together a study that gives the outcome you want or one that your benefactor would like so you can go back to that same trough and it isn’t even hard.
And the people paying for studies only release the ones they like so if you don’t do that nobody sees your work anyway.
Trust the science!
What science?
The stuff that we make up as we go along!
We live in a time when the science fiction is real but the science isn’t.
Dumbocrat science.
Sky is falling unless we give the government more money. Can’t control the climate without more money.
63 Genders, and boys that can’t make it on the boys team can play against the girls.
Borders wide open, but I’m getting blamed for spreading a virus?
Just a few examples of dem science.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/08/05/obamas-party-guests-may-be-stuck-with-huge-marthas-vineyard-hotel-bills-report-says/
When the education system dumped science and started teaching political science was the beginning of the end of true science
“political science” has been around as long as public education…ever hear of CIVICS?…it is when progressive revisionist history was taught as fact that society, in general, started its downward trend
Trust the Science! Real Science.
DON”T TRUST THE SCIENTISTS! Whores of the NIH and NIAID.
What about the cancer patients who received the placebo in their trial, where the trial can go on for 3 years before they unblind it. It’s okay to deny the cancer patient the drug? Unfortunately, its part of the scientific evaluation and statistical analysis that must be done when testing drugs. Destroying the vax control group is hogwash.
Cancer patients are actually dying. They have nothing to lose in their “right to try” something. This isn’t anything like that. We are healthy people with everything to lose and nothing to win. All risk and zero benefit.
Different animal entirely. Testing a new drug, or more often, a tweaked protocol using the standard of care as the control vs the new protocol is not anything like protocols for vaccine development. That’s why it typically takes years and years and years for vaccines to come to market.
I’m not a patient. I’m a healthy individual. In no other drug development were they coercing the world to take the treatment.
In a sane world the drug would already been pulled. And after this the vaxes would have been halted at the least.
But we live in bidans utopia. Where the demoncrats can do what ever and we just have to deal with it.
But not for long cat daddy.
You know what? They are going to still hang this on trump – and he might deserve some blame for listening to this hack- medical experts. It’s trumps Katrina. Damned if you do damned if you dont.
NO
Fraud Deceit Abomination
Just a thought, maybe it was a psychological trial …
This should taint the approval process, and the trials need to start over again with stricter protocols across all the morbidity groups.
That’s like saying well, it’s a stolen election. Let’s just let it “taint” the presidency a little bit. So what? Let’s not re-do the election. After all, the Dems worked so hard to steal it, they deserve an award for their boldness and “saving Democracy.”Anyway, now it’s too late to do anything about it.
Is that ok with you?
I have news for you: the FDA will approve at least one of these poisons within a month. There will be NO “stricter protocols.”
I’m willing to bet they both claim it was an “accident” by some flunky.
Bill Gates and Dr. Falsie back in the day. The population control board.
Meanwhile, mandate madness continues without relent:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/nations-largest-trial-court-system-tells-staffers-to-get-vaccinated-or-face-termination
https://www.dailywire.com/news/gov-newsom-announces-statewide-vaccine-mandate-for-california-healthcare-workers
They voted for this, so lie in it. Next time Vote MAGA.
No one voted for that.
Newsom got paid handsomely to do the bidding of big pharma, big tech, and China.
Listen to these liars taking credit for nature.
This is from that wretched article that tries to make blowing the placebo sound ok
“Fierro sees another possibility. Perhaps in a year or two the existing vaccines will have proven so effective that COVID-19 becomes not much more than a nuisance.”
–Like the typical virus according to the top virologist in the US. Not a gov’t lifer aka liar, gain of Fauci, but our real top virologist said the typical virus will weaken and die on its own.
Spanish flu killed 50 million, was an actual pandemic, petered out and is still “with us” but not an issue.
There is something very sinister about how hard they push this vaccine. We all know it wasn’t about the virus.
Yes – my thought too, among others.
I wonder, how many other people have an instant, NEGATIVE REACTION- as I do- to the constant push to “get the vaccine”?
We have NEVER witnessed such an aggressive barrage from all sectors as we do with this vaccine.
The push is coming from the radical Dems, their crazy supporters and the Marxist lunatics like Fauci, Emanuel and the rest of the batcrap crazies on the Left.
That tells you all you need to know. Consider the source. Like taking advice from a serial killer.
It seems to me if this ((pandemic)) was rampant and people were seeing their family, friends and neighbors sick and dying, there would be no need for government threats and arm twisting to be “vaccinated”.
EVERYTHING about the virus AND vaccine IS sinister.
if you have people who got the jab, you will have a responsibility to care about AND FOR THEM.
because that comes next
My initial aversion was because of the huge push…especially relative to the risk. Then came the stories about bad outcomes. Then the push got harder. And harder still.
I have a terrible feeling about it. Especially as it relates to my kids, school, school sports, and so on. Lots of opportunities to try mandating it.
We are witnessing classic marxist subversion and fear creation.the rules are there via alinsky springing from decades of practice.demoralize the peasants,scare em to death and divide them.
this worked in multiple countries and it will be a close call.however,flyover country wont go down easily.where i live,the lockdown stuff and masks were totally ignored.people are hopping mad.and everyone is armed.the intelligentsia forgets that our boys fought their dirty wars.they are back and battle hardened.three wars worth.
dont give up ,fight on. It is darkest before dawn.
I don’t have time to look it up but I believe it was Fauci’s wife (on the ethics committee) was the one who approved the vaccinations in the control group. At least she had a hand in it.
She worked for Obama for many years.
What could go wrong?
So true.
I used to think he was a genius then found out he was just a ruthless psycho dropout and thief just like that Fakebook fraud.
There are still plenty of us out here who have not and will not take the jab. We will be the control group for the long term comparison studies in the 1 to 10 year trial range.
Approval by the FDA has never and should never occur without long term studies. To do so is reckless and irresponsible which is exactly what to expect from Joebama’s weaponized corrupt gubmint.
I feel something very bad is on the horizon.
Jab is the language the left wants us to use. the word vaccine or injection is much harder for them to casually bypass in discusion.
Totally agree whiteboard. jab is quite benign and their word.
As an old nurse, it’s a shot.
I’m with you. The only problem is avoiding it for that long without starving. I’ll live as long as I can off food from outside if I must.
I will never take it. If my work mandates it, I’ll get a religious exemption. If that fails, all hell is gonna break loose. I will not be bullied. Stay strong!
Oh, how things change….
https://rumble.com/vkt88o-what-were-saying-about-vaccines-8-months-ago.html
they lost the long term safety data.
“Lost” being a euphemism for destroyed.
They’ve just defrauded the United States Government.
LoL you still think they care about laws or constitutions….
I believe they have found their legitimate loophole for breaking the control arm.
In any clinical trial, ethically the only time placebos can be used is when no standard of care exists. If, during or at the conclusion of the trial, they have determined the trial drug is both safe and effective, they would have a moral and ethical obligation to offer it to all.
Substitute a clinical trial cancer drug. If you had no standard treatment, had a control group getting a placebo, another receiving the trial drug, it put their cancer in remission, would you still claim the control group should not get it?
Of course all of this needs to be done practicing GCP, in proper phases, adverse event reporting, audits and approvals and oversight by an Institutional Review Board. This obviously did not occur, but a lot of red tape was cut to speed this through.
they ended the clinical trial. that means no long term data. weren’t they supposed to be doing further trials to get proper approval?
Under normal conditions, proper phases, adverse event reporting, varying demographics they would have had to, but with warp speed, not really sure how they were allowed to operate.
What you state is true w/respect to trials where the two groups are usually standard of care and new protocol. And if it becomes abundantly clear that the new protocol is better, the trial is stopped and everyone is offered that care for ethical reasons. However, vaccines are a different animal, which is why, historically it takes years to bring them to market. Warp speed eliminated many normal steps. It wasn’t just about eliminating red tape. At least that is my understanding.
Agree with your post sarah. Just saying it gave them the “loophole” of not denying an effective vax.
Their claim is based on flawed studied. My words “red tape” refers to eliminating steps as well as other standards. A very dangerous precedent to set. I don’t see us ever returning to pre COVID standards. Saw trouble coming the day Trump announced it.
Got it. Thanks for the clarification of “red tape.”
Now Pfizer can truthfully say that there is no difference in long term adverse effects between members of the placebo group and members of the experimental group.
But this is not a serious disease, it does not justify breaking the control to administer the treatment for ethical reasons.
This is not smallpox with a 30% fatality rate. This is a flu-like virus with the same 0.1% fatality rate as flu.
There is no defensible reason to break the control group with covid-1984.
Using the “ethics” excuse is disingenuous, just the the rest of the plandemic.
The disingenuousness of their excuses never slows the terminally murderous.
I totally agree, 100%.
This is not real. In the Covid 19 vaccine situation, they are just making it up as they go.
No argument there.
Yep. That’s about right. I have been saying this for awhile, it isn’t about science. It’s their religion and they insist everyone bow down.
That’s criminal.
Also note:
Total deaths from “vaccines” now exceed 12k, and they aren’t ‘free’ as advertised. US taxpayers are spending $19.50 per dose. Albanian’s comparatively, pay only $12.
Unlike any other industry, Pfizer not only demands and receives immunity protections from any liability from their ineffective/ defective products, they also requires countries to “defend” their interests.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/leaked-document-terms-pfizers-international-vaccine-agreements/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=92e5fbcf-66c0-4d44-8855-e01f38f0f8c4
And 12,000 is the low estimate. Some are saying it’s much much higher than that.
It’s slightly worse than this.
The critics of ivermectin therapy state the fact that ivermectin has not been tested in “double blind study” for covid patients…’OH HOW CAN IT BE PROVEN SAFE????’
BS and they know it. You can’t not test a safe drug as a placebo in any trial. Ivermectin’s long market safety means it will never be tested in a double blind study.
The Pfzier doctor’s used the ivermectin MATH founders out of Houston logic to say ‘it’s not ethical not to offer the vax.’
BS again: it’s the only time IT IS ETHICAL!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr grrrrrrrrrrrrrr (that’s double gr to their double blind lies).
therapeutics and vax, two totally different things.
The point is that the Pfizer team laid claim that it is unethical to deliver only placebo to their original trial once there was emergency use. They equate emergency use with long market safety. Not the same ethical animal. The illustration is the same if the pneumonia vax worked for covid…there would never be a pneumonia placebo controlled study because it’s safety record makes it unethical to give placebo to any population for any reason.
perhaps I’m not being clear enough. Pfizer can go pound sand. They NEVER should have claimed it’s unethical to allow placebo recipients to hold off on emergency use…but that’s exactly what they did. The only case for doing so is when the trial is on a safe drug being applied to new use…placebos are not ethical in those trials.
Understand completely. Trying to make a point that they are using it as a reason to vax the control group. Thats why I used the term “loophole”.
Long gone conversation but got to say: “unethical to give placebo” was the [insert vilest obscenity/profanity permissible to you] excuse my autistic son’s pediatrician was giving for no double blind studies of MMR Vax to correlate to Autism Epidemic.
That was 20 years ago!
Long gone conversation but got to say: “unethical to give placebo” was the [insert vilest obscenity/profanity permissible to you] excuse my autistic son’s pediatrician was giving for no double blind studies of MMR Vax to correlate to Autism Epidemic.
That was 20 years ago!
My wife is a nurse telling me that the ferrets are irrelevant.
But we are now the ferrets
How’d the booster shots work out for the ferrets?
She have any rationale for that claim?
I don’t know but Allied POW’s called their German guards ferrets.
Did not know that. Wish my FIL was here to ask. He spent almost 2 years, 3 different Stalags. What a generation! Thanks
ALL the ferrets died.
Thanks, I knew that, was wondering why I wont back downs wife thought it didn’t matter.?
Her statement to me was that this is different and the ferrets are irrelevant because this is an mrna developed vaccine. I am not sure she’s correct.
I asked and am searching to find out if there are any concurrent animal tests happening right now. Or if it is just human “trials” (we are the ferrets).
There is one other mrna developed vaccine on Dengue in the Phillipines. The humans didn’t fair so well in that one.
My argument is that there needs to be more data. And we as the test subjects are the ones providing it but determining its efficacy and safety is a year away from March 2021 (at least). But probably April since ONLY the elderly (and front line Healthcare workers) got it first.
Both she and I are vaxed (we are the test subjects) but I won’t let my kids get it until there is more data.
I said I want my kids wearing n95 masks to mitigate their risk until we hit the year mark.
Thanks for the feedback. Not sure the ferrets were mrna, but that doesn’t matter. Animals are the first to be tested. That was eliminated with COVID.
Stay well
All dead.
Calling rule of law, rule of law……anyone?
It ain’t answering b/c it is dead.
paradoxially…people are alive dealing with a killer in our midst.
and no one YET has had the conviction to form a dead or alive posse
that comes next
Big wuestion: Will blood banks separate vaccinated from non-vaccinated blood donat blood?
Those that are vaccinated can not donate right now will they be able to in the future I don’t know
Is that true? Vaxxed cannot donate blood?
Never mind. According to the Red Cross website, you CAN donate blood if vaxxed.
No, that is not true. As with other blood donation protocols post vaccines, the Red Cross has guidelines about how soon after being vaccinated a person can donate blood. They have no yet updated their page about donating for convalescent plasma, but the person I spoke w/today at the Red Cross said they’re no longer taking blood for that from anyone (vaccinate or unvaccinated).
https://www.redcrossblood.org/local-homepage/news/article/covid-19-vaccination-guide-blood-donation.html
According to YOUR link, posted above, it has the same statements as tge website. Vaxxed people CAN donate blood and platelets, no deferral time if you know the vaxx you had was not live virus.
Perhaps the person you spoke with was correct and site is not updated.
Recently read that they are not accepting blood from Coupvid survivors for use as monoclonal antibodies therapy if they are vaccinated. Point being that the vaccine response muted or mooted the naturally derived antibodies, rendering them useless.
A lot of back and forth on that, some a bit of confusion, some I suspect of obfuscation, such as a reported Red Cross message stating that they weren’t accepting submissions for therapeutic use since a month or so ago due to having sufficient stores, which seems iffish, without having actually addressed the question of inutility of mRNA overwritten natural immunity.
As of now, it is correct that none are genuinely banned either way.
Thank you Maquis. I believe that is correct.
Also prevents trial failure. Like the other one essentially did.
14 Deaths Pfizer vs 13 Deaths Placebo…
Does anyone know if China is…..
1) Using the pfizer or moderna vaccine for their citizens?
2) Using their own home made vaccine?
3) Not VAXING at all?
Also if they are using their own vaccine I wonder if it is saline or a mRNA type.
So imagine if there is 7.8 Billion people in the World and China has 1.5 Billion of those 7.8 and China knows the VAX has “serious issues” and has chosen not to VAX or look like they are VAXING but injecting saline thus leaving their entire population unvaxed.
So, if true, In the end they might have pulled off the greatest con and take over of the world without firing a shot.
You will find this quite interesting.
https://tapnewswire.com/2021/08/the-rider-on-the-white-horse-deagel-projections-and-vaccine-choices/
Thank you – very thought provoking and potentially right on the money.
Hello @ Bogeyfree, China has tow vaccines, Sinovac and Sinopharm, a total of 1.74B doess have been adminstered, and, nearly a quarter of the population has had both doses. They do not allow any non-Chinese made vaccines for Covid. I have included a couple of links for you to look at.
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations – Statistics and Research – Our World in Data
Covid: What do we know about China’s coronavirus vaccines? – BBC News
Initial trials, to the level of Pifzer and Moderna Phase 3 and their equivalent trials in US and elsewhere showed that Pfizer and Moderna were back in Q4 last year were ~94% effective and Sinovac was ~51% in Q1 of this year. However, with hundreds of millions of Pfizer and Moderna administered (vs. ~40,000 people), we now know a lot more, and, with questionable control group for full approvals, things are very ‘murky’ now for sure.
Hope this helps. Thank you.
Interesting
It’s intentionally murky
Have you guys tried to look at the CDC website lately?
It’s hilarious
The number burying is the most hilarious govt confusopoly ever
In the “Springtime for Hitler” vein of humor
So I hope that one guy who posted here will crunch the numbers weekly as he did for last week (only 200 some deaths) since they refuse to do it for us
OK so here is one thing they are doing:
They take the young people under 25 or whatever as the “base number” for mortality rate
THEN THEY DON’T TELL YOU WHAT THEIR MORTALITY RATE IS, SINCE IT’S NEXT TO NOTHING
THEN all the rest of the age groups, they say “your group is FOUR TIMES more likely to die than the “base” group
OR TEN TIMES if you’re over 80
LOL … four times WHAT? Ten times WHAT?
.0007% was the overall mortality rate nationally all groups mixed in together the last time I saw the blond War Room guy do the math
So before when we could see mortality rates they were all single digit for everyone, almost nothing for the young, and a lot lower than the publicized numbers we got from China in the first month or two of peak virulence
CDC–
CENTER OF DAMNED (I mean in the biblical sense, going to burn) COMMUNISTS
Our gov has the responsibility to do clear, honest, non fear monger numbers for the public welfare and instead has gone full Satan trying to push mental breakdowns, fear and compliance. And when the Faucis and Bribed-ens drop dead I cannot wait to celebrate that much deserved day.
Write that in the past tense. The Chinese have already taken over the world with a combo of a virus and a scare campaign on TV, convincing 50 other nations to destroy their own economies with a ‘lockdown’ which is just a suicidal destruction of most of a country’s small businesses.
Will hospitals require vaccination papers prior.to approving surgery?
looks like the direction we are going.
This is a major concern. Take it a step or two farther and one might ask: Will medical care of any kind be withheld from those who are not vaccinated? Things that sound crazy seem to come to pass in the United States these days. And rather quickly at that.
I think it’s a given that medical care will eventually be withheld from anyone not getting the shot.
Tthat’s not a specific concern; however, I realize that not everyone has worked those realities through and also that someone who is younger with children/younger family to think about has a very different set of stressors
I sort of think that the day my doctor/medical contacts say, “Sharon, we really need to have you accept the shot now because, if you don’t, we will not be able to schedule the treatment you need.”….then I wil say, “Oh, goodness, that’s a no-brainer for me. Sorry to take up your time. Bye now.”
And lest anyone think that I’m simplifying the moment-by-moment reality of such situations, just know that I’m not. My late husband didn’t know that would be his mindset the day the oncologist gently said, “There’s nothing else we can do. The only thing we might offer might give you a few more weeks, but you would be very sick for most of that time.” Within that appointment that day was the very first time we had specific information abut what we were facing.
The oncologist said that, and then my husband said, “It’s all good.” He did not mean he wouldn’t live life to the fullest as long as possible: he did. He was reaping the massive benefit of having come to terms with physical death and understanding redemption as offered by our compassionate God, knowing that God doesn’t lie to us about anything, and not about that.
So when he said, “It’s all good” it wasn’t out of some kind of denial or confusion. It was in the context of what had already been settled in his life. Between the two of us, we have had over twenty cancer deaths in our families, so we are fully aware and have experienced the limitations of this life, again and again.
No goofball, lying, manipulative government agency or employee of the medical industry is going to bully me when, very likely, I only met them that very day just before they started their bullying efforts. It will be interesting. Maybe won’t be easy, but whether or not I can be bullied by threats of withholding medical care??
I’ve already made the decisions regarding that. I won’t be making the decision on that day.
That is a powerful, strong, wise statement. More power to you for knowing who you are having abiding faith.
And I found myself wishing I had said, Sarah–if I am in contact with some who are fearful and struggling with what to do, terrified to die and so angry at the place they have been “trapped”….I hope I will be clearly empathetic, walking alongside them as they are forced to make decisions that no one should be forced to make.
There’s no basis at all for anyone, including me, to act like they’ve got a corner on this kind of stuff. It’s hard. It’s flat HARD. It’s possible to process it…but possible should never be confused with easy.
We humans love living. And this is the only life we have ever known. Thank you for your thoughtful response, Sarah.
Cool Sharon.
And we’re not letting you go through that. There are limitations with what can be done, true, but they need to do what they can. The withholding of what CAN be done or tried is not acceptable over a flu shot is not an acceptable scenario.
My answer to that is no, we are not having life saving meds kept from those who deny other care.
The patient has rights and do NOT think for a second this convuluted legal mess they are creating only goes their way. It does not.
You are not getting medical care withheld over the Sophie’s choice of an out of date blood clot shot with zero value against “variants” or no care.
Examples: why can’t you check out the law for what illegal aliens get? Bet they get full treatment for whatever they want and you can piggy back off those rights.
I don’t think they can deny care when with the slave trade they have going. Because to incentivize it they’ve put in place all kinds of non denial of service and stuff.
There is zero reason we should allow them to break the laws we have protecting us against us and sit idly by paying for their crimes.
I say calmly (since you have a powerful center core of total peaceful resolve) but insistently demand they provide all options when that time comes far down the road.
And get some neighbors or Facebook pals or whatever working together crowd sourcing your rights and options in your area.
You can’t look up all your rights alone, nor can they. Together you most certainly can.
If you can arrange it so any debts you incur pass with you, I know I had a family member who had to do that. So then you get your money’s worth out of the crooks who overcharged you and your husband (because I also have family who didn’t make the necessary arrangements and are still getting harangued for deaths of loved ones).
Not that it’s happening soon, but everyone with kids has to look ahead, that’s what one must do. And like you say when you have God you don’t have to freak out over that. I swear it is so much more peaceful having that relationship with the eternal that these satanics don’t.
Also we still have “Right to Try” on the books.
Go out kicking and then at peace.
I like how Joel Osteen says that the feisty have such long odds surviving.
Then when we do leave this earth, we don’t know perhaps the good Lord still lets us help the loved ones left behind.
I never had much feist in me but now there’s no choice and I refuse to let our good people be treated like this.
And I must say…
You are a powerful spirit. Your story is moving and you and your husband have some really powerful and beautifully centered spiritual cores to you which are an eternal blessing to everyone because we feel it.
I know God is with you and your loved ones and vice versa.
I never had much feist in me…
Okay, Imma gonna call bs right here… 😉
Yes it will
There may be some states that make that illegal but in the majority of states you will not be able to have medical care
I will go you one further. Will the unvaccinated have to forgo surgeries because they fear that while they are unconscious, they will be vaxxed against their will?
And those doing the vaxxing will feel very righteous about it, because it is for the greater good of the collective.
Probably already happening
That’s not going to happen.
Look, they live in fear of lawsuits and such. And they know like everyone knows it’s a flu shot. A risky bad one with no upside whatsoever, but the idea they’re going to risk a hundred million dollar lawsuit and scandal to vaccinate people they’ve already TESTED prior to surgery while they are out cold against a mild flu is just not going to happen.
You fear them.
But you have to know these Lefties.
They are rabbits. Hearts pounding away at every move in this life, skittering around in their godless fear mode.
You make them fear you too.
You can even get cameras in the operating rooms now.
You have a lot of rights and it’s time to get out there and use them.
Quit sitting back. Make a Lefty understand they fear you for good righteous reason.
You are not letting criminals criminal away anymore.
Good question!
I go under the knife on the 12th
In N.J. if you are not needle raped you must be covid tested
That I’m scheduled for that test for on Monday
They told me I must quarantine after the fake test
Until the results come in
I laughed at them and said that won’t happen
Because I’m not sick and if you tell me I have Covid
We will have a problem
I have found when you bash the needle rape or covid fraud test
They shut up and they probably just add it to my record.
Doubtless, notes are being made.
ROTFL
But anyway, good luck.
Will it be required to maintain health insurance?
The new and improved ZeroCare!
So much for the long term side effects – you would think this was small pox – but it’s not anywhere near that or bad old h1n1 – flu – which is still running around.
Oh and fauci needs to be removed. That guy is a complete menace to society.
but but but but but………this is all for the “greater good.”
BULLSHIT.
“For the greater good”:the phrase that always precedesthe greatest evil.”
― Jakub Bożydar Wiśniewski
Getting the jab is your choice. If the corrupted media and bought off politicians are ranting for you to get the jab you have to wonder. THERAPEUTICS might be the better choice. Like those given to President Trump. Note, you cannot Vaccinate your way out of a Pandemic. Dr. Robert Malone. It drives vaccine mutants that evolves to escape those vaccinated. Basic Virology.
As far as vaccinations go, about 49% of Florida’s population has been fully vaccinated, per CDC data. The number of doses administered has ticked up in recent days, with a 7-day average of about 67,364 doses administered per day over the last week, up from about 54,070 two weeks ago.
Al least everyone isn’t a stupid tin foil hat wearing anti vaxer misfit.
Hey everybody, beer causes weight gain and that will kill you eventually. It’s a scam to poison all of us.
I heard there was a car wreck some where –quick every one, get rid of your car, the government has a secret plot they launched fifty years ago to reduce the population.
Get a vaccine.
I stuck up for you when you received pushback for stating a difference of opinion. However, now that you’re engaging in name-calling ….welcome to moderation.
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Ad rem, I’ll happily go down with this imbecile.
My apologies. Lost it. I’m ok now.
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? well deserved.
So BlueBird, according to your highly intelligent use of rhetoric are you then implying the government and my employer have plans to provide me unlimited free beer and a nice new ride?? And if i dont accept, say I drink kambucha and ride my bike I will be fired???
Im so confused??
Florida says —- Go Pound Sand!!!
Your naïve compliance fits right in with the Hitler suicide in the bunker story. It is almost certain Himmler gave Hitler a jab and not the propaganda cyanide and gun shot we have all been brainwashed with. I will post a link soon.
I want to add that I am not a conspiracy nut about Hitler’ death. But it is a fact that there were only 7 German witnesses that were interrogated after the war. None of the accounts jive with the gruesome, cherry picked, concocted story that Churchill and the rest dreamed up for a propaganda victory. The omitted details are breathtaking. Did you know the first soldiers in the bunker were female Russians that took all of Eva Braun’s lingerie?
Ad hominem attack.
You got yours
1) If it works, what’s it to you what anyone else does?
2) If it doesn’t work, why get a blood clot and die in your 30’s as I’ve seen happen over a jab to prevent a mild flu that only lasts as long as a cold?
3) And when has a flu vaccine ever worked once out of date? Go around Delta, and you are going to get Delta. Course if you had natural immunity you would not.
4) Notice that the data shows all the highly educated have the most vaccine “hesitancy” when that is usually the most goose stepping along the Left’s plans. Because if you do the research it’s the dumbest risk-reward calculus ever.
Name one therapeutic in history that didn’t have severe side effects.
Because you need to go to your local Walgreens or CVS and pick up any over the counter which will ALSO have a huge page of deathly side effects. When the therapeutic goes through a doc or prescription it has to be processed through your liver like a poison which it essentially is and then the side effects go up to more frequent and severe.
And why trust drug companies with their new guinea pig vaccine when we already know their products are always full of terrible potential bad outcomes?
This IS science. Why don’t you learn any basics about how drugs work before pushing for 100% compliance when natural immunity is already there for so many?
Again go see a pharmacist or call one if you don’t know this. Ask them to name their drugs and even over counter meds without life threatening side effects. They list them for you on the package and none are risk free so it is very irresponsible to ask for 100% compliance when that would actually be unacceptable for any standard med due to allergies, indiv health and so forth.
So this is an anti science push.
There is no reward, only risk to the jab. And to prove it, go around a Delta positive case and see how effective your jab is.
And for what anyway? A flu that millions already had and barely had an issue with?
A flu that millions already have the antibodies for?
FL is under a huge psy ops attack now. It is ground zero for a scare campaign because it is central to the electoral map for 2024 (a must win state for the presidency), De Santis is the most popular gov, and midterms are coming. I’m sorry for those who believe the lie peddling from coordinated FL Leftwing media acting the way national media did against Trump, and sorrier that there are those peddling nonsense for them online.
Without links you’ll notice. And please notice that because it does suggest the scare mongers know that links would be even more easily demolished.
Excellent!
By the way I’m sure someone else will make the point better than I will but the therapeutics around 50 years plus are the ones you want to prefer. HCQ and Ivermecitin. Then you actually do know pretty much all of the positives and negatives so you can work with knowledge.
Real medicine and real science for actual public health would be working with knowns before unknowns.
This is logic, common sense, science and also simple freedom of choice.
Because a real doc never pushes past the patient’s wishes for a reason. These current pushes are so clearly against all ethics.
So people, look at your actual risk, how those you know have fared, if you’ve had it already, and vitamin levels for zinc and D, have C around and you can safely do a lot of C, learn about the therapeutics from whoever here can help with that.
And with the stab if you’ve already had it what’s done is done, just don’t make anything worse with panic so just don’t read about potential problems beyond what you must, and just don’t get endless boosters if you don’t know what you are doing because my God that is playing with fire.
Remember reading an article back in April of a private school named Centner Academy. They advised their teachers to NOT get vaccinated. I thought then and I have maintained ever since they were onto this vaccine nonsense right from the start. The admins were not going to let their students become infected with the vaccine.
Wow. A little corner of sanity. Never heard this story but looked it up. Good for them.
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/04/27/miami-private-school-centner-academy-covid-vaccinations/
It’s seems that the #1 priority is to make sure the rats are in power to enable the one world Great Reset and the ends justify the means. If protocols are broken, if lies are told, if people die, if elections and countries are stolen, it’s all part of doing what is necessary to achieve the goal.
Right?
Right.
I emailed my Representative with the following points.
Rushed EUA lacking basic information which would typically be required, per Dr Malone
Side effects and deaths on VAERS, which constitute between 1% and 10% of actual numbers based on a Harvard study, which are higher than the total for all vaccines administered since the inception of the VAERS reporting system
People losing jobs and being forced out of college as well as potential refusal of services by businesses based on medical status, which is clear discrimination based on medical status
Intrusion into personal health decisions
Coercion to engage in an activity which could result in bodily harm
Potential, if not already the reality, of non sterilizing vaccines to unleash Antibody Dependent Enhancement response in the vaccinated and produce more virulent strains
Lack of effectiveness of the vaccines against current prevalent strains as evidenced by data coming out of Israel, Gibralter, UK, etc
ACTION POINT
We need a medical panel, led by Dr Robert Malone and outside the CDC/NIH bureaucracy, to review:
The current state of vaccine mandates and the FDA approval process
Blocking of medical professionals by hospital execs and state boards from providing timely and effective known treatments to their patients
Pandemic responses driven by unelected bureaucrats, big pharma, and politicians with profits and wielding of authority given consideration over public health
Much hard data on these issues already exists. We have seen it. Congress has oversight responsibilities and needs to act immediately in the interests of public safety.
We need to hold our representatives’ feet to the fire.
They seem to think if they just overwhelm us with their idiocy we’ll give up. That has worked in the past, but we cannot afford to stay complacent any longer.
Be respectful, but be persistent. Despite our flawed elections, some still listen to their constituents.
Any Treepers in Kentucky might want to contact Rand Paul. He gets it.
The odds of being heard seem daunting, but complaining to each other goes no where and we need to do something.
Lives are being destroyed.
This is excellent. Can I steal it and use it as a template?
Please do!
Thank you! Done. Already had called Rand Paul. I would add or slightly change what you wrote about him which is that I don’t think one need live in the state or Congressional district of any elected official to call them. I have a long list of elected officials and go through it almost every day, sometimes tweaking who I call based on areas of interest they appear to have. Anything related to covid and vaccines is an automatic call to Rand Paul’s office.
Oh boy.
For camera Rand and a foot dragging panel.
Can we get a more immediate, simple, precise demand?
Showtime Rand and a panel will hide a delay a lot of sins while looking “busy” when the red light is on.
I hear you. But I’m still compelled to contact elected officials, even while feeling cynical.
Great points with the prob.
Only prob with the solution is that adds another bureacratic level to slow things down AND be corrupted via the usual methods
Can we brainstorm a simple solution that would be immediate?
Boils down to freedom to get med care or what? A bureacratic oversight in a non corrupted system could work.
This one is corrupted by the fact it’s so complicated. So you get a panel, one or two well placed fraudsters and reports that take forever and get ignored. Really, this is their tried and true go to move for doing nothing or harm.
Need something immediate.
We are the control group folks. The experiment involves the entire country. The behavior of our elites suggest it is important to make sure most are vaccinated. And the urgency in there message suggests something is coming along soon; very soon.
The only thing that comes to mind is ADE. And it seems these vaccines efficacy is waning after about 6 months. According to Dr Malone (invented mRNA vaccine platform) when a vaccine loses strength it’s a possible sign that ADE may be a huge problem.
Nobody really knows the long term ramifications of these new vaccines. But based on this grinding commitment to push the rest of the population to get vax’d I suspect something is around the corner. It’s going to be interesting.
As sociopaths, the architects of these injections would be attracted to and interested in ADE
We just need to trust the political science.
Ha! Good one!
“Trust gov, Aside from Slavery, Jim Crow and some wars what proof do you have your GOV would do you wrong?”
“My body, Fauci’s Choice”
“Freedom is anti Pfizer”
“Questions in Science? Burn this heretic!”
“Who needs air, mask up for life like the red woman’s kindergardener tells you”
“What’s wrong with house arrest? Jailin’ Joe is not done with for profit prison”
And simply put:
“OBEY”
“NOT A JOKE, SERF”
Rest assured their is an accurate “as like math model” of the control group. //sarc
Just as the tests to count China Virus cases are based on as like “math models” using the common cold as a basis.
Guess who founded and has a financial stake in the medical cloud based modeling division of the company DrugDev Inc. that does this type of modeling for Big Pharma?? None other than our own US Surgeon General Murthy, who also has ties to the Indian Medical Company supply the discredited Delta Variant analysis.
So far, every key Health Science and medical Science personality involved has a professional and financial stake in all aspects of the China Virus sham-demic. That also includes non-government “experts” used by the MSM.
THERE IS MORE.
alot more fraud.
I will speak to this AGAIN IN DIRECT VOICE SOON.
noting:. covid Will be the state 3 revolution trigger…
when the FACTS and TRUTH is released.
pay attention to THE LIST.
you will know what to do.
God Bless America
Well I would be lying if I said that I was not curious.
Without the supporting data, how can the FDA HONESTLY even consider approval for either “vaccine”. That would be akin to letting a high school chemistry class loose with a bunch of chemicals, allowing them to mix up some “cocktails” (some of the ingredients would be lethal or at least immoral) and then dispensing the “cocktail” to every student on a campus and it would be MANDATORY for the students to consume the entire COCKTAIL.
If the FDA does (insanely) grant approval, I think I will open a lab in my garage and start mixing my own “vaccine”. I will try it on those in Congress and in the Biden administration (including their families). I can then lose the “data”, collect my millions from the government, have my guarantee of no lawsuits.
THIS IS INSANITY!
Honesty was thrown out the door when insanity rushed in.
They can do it because we allow them to, and they know that once again we’ll back down to their authority and the pressure of cancel culture.
We have been conditioned to trust BIG PHARMA, the CDC, NIH, WHO because they are the experts and wouldn’t knowingly cause harm.
BS!
Just watch all the drug commercials and law office commercials advertising drugs with frightening lists of potential side effects and then the lawyers making themselves wealthy as they represent the victims.
We really need to take responsibility for our own health, do our own research, and turn to the medical community only when we must.
They can do amazing things for desperately ill and damaged people, and thank God for those dedicated medical professionals.
But all doctors are not created equal, and most are controlled to some degree by medical and hospital boards.
Pharmaceutical companies are worse. They contribute huge sums of money to universities, research organizations, politicians, and the organizations in place to “protect the public.” Fox, meet henhouse.
This is not political. It is greed, control and lots of CYA.
Yes. And they WILL approve Pfizer as vaccine in September anyways…. of particular note the only control group left is the unvaccinated populace which they want to mandate and force to cover up their moral transgressions.
I subscribe to the philosophy of Dr. Lee Merritt. She says be patient, the truth is emerging.
She does not believe in arguing with those who believe in the shots.
I go further: Be patient. The wicked behind this will perish from the injections they are peddling with no need of intervention by us.
The stupid and gullible embracing these deadly shots will be gone. There will be fewer traffic jams, more elbow room and a lot of vacant houses to live in.
Yes, Dr. Lee Merritt is great–I think she does videos with the 5 Doctors (Dr. Tenpenny, Dr. Carrie Madej, Dr. Christiane Northrup, Dr. Larry Palevsky), and she’s done some excellent interviews on her own. Here’s one that I thought was exceptional (interviewer pretty much just lets her talk):
https://redpilluniversity.org/2021/04/23/the-covid-con-game-and-end-game/
they talked to Satan.. repeatedly… constantly…
this is how they develop their ideas
it was not holy.
God Bless America
So NPR covered and reported this in February. And now the article is gerting an encore performance here.
Why?
Was the initial reporting intentional by a researcher who had issues with it (as they ALL should have) or was it from someone within the FDA?
And who rekindled this fire and why? Perhaps a minority view that the FDA is going to ram through an approval as they did with Aduhelm (aducanumab) for the treatment of Alzheimer’s?
What is sad about this is the taxpayers probably directly paid for the trials these companies stopped. We are as likely to get those funds back as we are of getting meaningful data before the FDA pulls out their rubber stamp so the government and corporations have one less impediment to requiring we all be jabbed.
The encore may well be related to yesterday‘s report about FDA approval potentially being imminent, May spark more mandatory vaccination orders. If something is approved for such use but has massive holes as far as the scientific method, that’s an issue.
It’s criminal! Label it exactly what it is.
That is perfect, super succinct, and hits the nail on the head!
You know the answer will be that the “cure” was so good they “had” to call the control group and jab them too.
If I were a conspiracy type I would be suspicious right about now.
The vaccine machine should cease, right now.
Vaccine mandate just imposed on WH press pool. They’ve got 2 days to prove they’re vaccinated, or else.
https://therightscoop.com/white-house-putting-vaccine-mandate-on-reporters-and-they-only-have-two-days/
Yeah but they want that.
The fat one from P-B.S. demanded it for the country
Catturd ™
@catturd2
Am I understanding this correctly?
The CDC says all theses new cases are the Delta variant – but there’s no test for the Delta variant?
4:26 PM · Aug 6, 2021·Twitter Web App
I think PCR tests will detect it because they are extremely sensitive tests. However, the results take longer to get, so a lot of people may just get “rapid tests” and those tests (if I understand this correctly) cannot detect the particular strain or variant.
As much as I like to mock “the experts,” I’m not so sure about this one. PCR tests are extremely sensitive. For me it’s a bridge too far to decide that this variant didn’t emerge in India and spread around the world. Virus do change. My suspicious cat brain however wondered if the Chinese unleashed it in India because China is very aggressive against that nation. But who knows? Again, I have no reason to think a PCR test can’t detect this particular strain, but I remain open to any and all theories in light of the crazy times in which we live.
Good point. The CCP and India really are in a war right now.
Currently I really want India to win.
Their record:
invented actual peaceful change
largest democracy in world
never took over anyone
China
Fourth Reich. Nuff said.
They’ve unleashed a bio weapon before. India did position to be the alternative to China
They did get the “variant” first
Anyway, ultimately China did do this whether with a booster variant or not, and “coincidentally” both are jockeying to be the big trading partner of the world
I’d rather trade with some Hindus and Buddhists in poverty and just anybody but China right now
Requires genetic testing to confirm the Delta variant, but those are expensive and take time.
Generally certain labs will randomly spot check just to get statistical samples to project what variants are spreading in the community.
So, no, individual PCR tests can’t tell what variant.
Pfuk both of ’em. HCQ/Zn and Ivermectin WORK. Demands to jab anyone are, at the least, ill informed.
https://nexttobagend.blogspot.com/2021/08/dark-have-been-my-dreams-of-late-ht.html
They can’t work. No treatment can be allowed, lest the emergency authorization get yanked.
You saw through the smoke… and you’re right.
https://thedoctorweighsin.com/the-ethics-of-placebos-in-clinical-trials/
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/information-consumers-and-patients-drugs/inside-clinical-trials-testing-medical-products-people
yes…lets withold an effective drug just to [unethically] keep a control group in place!
an effective drug
.
.
How do you know it’s effective? So far, the data tells us it isn’t.
Is it effective? Are there not fully vaccinated individuals in the hospital with covid? Is it safe? Are there not thousands of injuries and/or deaths reported on VAERS?
Stephen,
are you referring to the vaccine or HCQ and IVERMECTIN?
You got it. And since they do work, the emergency authorization was illegal.
Point being: Stash some in the cupboard as did I, in case, say a prayer and get on with life!
read about ethics in drug studies.