On April 8th the CDC said there were no issues with the Johnson and Johnson vaccine after several people reported reactions in North Carolina. [LINK HERE]
However, less than a week later the FDA is now instructing all medical providers to “pause” the vaccine as six women have developed blood clotting issues. There have been more than seven million J&J doses administered.
WASHINGTON — Injections of Johnson & Johnson’s single-dose coronavirus vaccine came to a sudden halt in much of the country on Tuesday after federal health agencies called for a pause in the vaccine’s use following the emergence of a rare blood clotting disorder in six recipients.
All six were women between the ages of 18 and 48 and all developed the illness within one to three weeks of vaccination. One woman died and a second woman in Nebraska has been hospitalized in critical condition.
Nearly seven million people in the United States have received Johnson & Johnson shots so far, and about nine million more doses have been shipped out to the states, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
“We are recommending a pause in the use of this vaccine out of an abundance of caution,” Dr. Peter Marks, director of the Food and Drug Administration’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, and Dr. Anne Schuchat, principal deputy director of the C.D.C., said in a joint statement. “Right now, these adverse events appear to be extremely rare.” (read more)
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6 cases out of 7 million people. What a disaster. This is going to get people killed. And it's going to create more vaccine hesitancy. These people don't understand cost-benefit analysis. They keep making mistakes by orders of magnitude. https://t.co/DQdvqoujHR
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) April 13, 2021
President Trump implies the FDA relationship with Pfizer may have something to do with the decision.
Only women developed blood clots ?
How and when will someone investigate what nanotechnology is in this serum that has not been passed by the FDA ?
Europe stopped the J&J vaccine almost two months ago because of blood clots in women and when true scientists have come out and said this garbage will make women sterile this is more proof they have targeted the DNA of women.
This was one of the (many) brilliant things about Traditional Chinese Medicine: It realized the differences between male and female systems and took it into account.
Western Medicine doesn’t do that (and never has?).
What – Western medicine doesn’t have departments of gynecology? Obstetrics? A zillion specialists treating women for lupus? Fine-tuning estrogen and testosterone levels?
Western medicine does indeed recognize “the differences between male and female systems”
Unless they’re confronted with males seeking to participate in girls’ sports
In which case they should refer such males to a psychiatrist
Decisions, decisions.
How are the (IMO, criminal) endocrinologists involved in gender reassignment supposed to counsel their patients. Are they going to tell their patients not to take any of the Fauci Flu vaccines? Are they going to “pause” androgen blocking hormone treatments if their patients took the jab?
Cleavage and a beard.
Isn’t western medicine having a difficult time deciding there are only two genders no t over 100?
Not as a generalization, I don’t think
Now when they’re bullied by the woke tide … then maybe so
NimRod,
I’m with you on this one. Chinese medicine is not medicine. Did you know they did a study with 10s of 1000s of subjects which determined sham acupuncture was equally as effective as Chinese medicine acupuncture. Then the PTs and Chiros did the research and created a whole new treatment method called functional dry needling.
FYI “Meridians” do not exist in the body.
Our bodies are complex systems. Many parts are the same and some are quite different between men and women. Hence, the female specialties you mention.
What is called western medicine is oriented to the treatment of distinct parts of the body, which works well in acute situations that respond to medications. Chronic disease, however, more often stems from systemic problems, and the holistic orientation of eastern medicine has much to teach us about treating disease.
I have no idea whether meridians exist, but as a recovering stroke victim, I can attest to experiencing pain and stress relief from accupuncture and chinese herbs that I was unable to solve with western medications.
I can’t speak from firsthand experience, as I’ve never had cause to need any of it, but from what I’ve read, Daily Values, medicinal prescriptions, and approaches to ailments that assail both sexes – but with different long-term effects – were all studied in primarily men. The term is “bikini medicine;” meaning that the only acknowledged differences in the medical field are the areas covered by a bikini.
Again, I can’t say this from personal experience, it’s just what I’ve read.
I weigh about 107 lbs. I always wondered why my dose would be the same and just as effective as for a 300 lb man. The problem with journalists and they never ask the right questions- on purpose. These 6 cases were of child bearing age (apparently) maybe some were also on some forms of contraceptive (IUD, pill, etc) which could lead to complications. Basically, everyone is a guinea pig with these shots.
Sunnydaze was talking about the treatment theories and approaches, not job titles.
NEVER TAKE THE VACCINE.
Amen!
first, as a reminder, we inherit half our DNA from our mom and half from our dad. but the DNA sits in the cell nucleus. we have inherited all the rest of our cell from our mom.
when they make something from RNA, they are using mom’s stuff. but mom’s stuff that we all have. so why not men or older women?
second, note the age range of the women. if they let teenagers get the vaccine, it would probably include all women that menstruate.
so, they have likely modified cellular functions involved in some parts of the female cycles.
but, the rarity of the effect, six people out of probably more than one million people, argues that there is some limiting factor. it is definitely not every woman of childbearing features.
and with odds in that range, they probably wouldn’t have seen this in testing. but you never know.
and, it is still very possible that with odds that low, there could be other causes for those blood clots. out of one million women of child bearing age, just how many of them will have blood clots within one months time? is it one, and six is impossibly high for it to be unrelated to the vaccine? or would it be sixty and screening criteria could be the cause of misattribution of six to the vaccine?
“six people out of probably more than
onesix million people”and John Hopkins says this sort of blood clot occurs in 5 people per million naturally …
…every 12 months, not in 1-3 weeks.
The same John Hopkins that sponsored and participated in the EVENT 201 in fall of 2019. The same Event 201 that foretold of a worldwide pandemic? hmmm… ?
I have been on my governor’s Fakebook page a lot today… Kentucky Gov Andy Beshear. The Covid Scam Report today was something to behold. Andy looked a little pale as he was giving the news about J&J. It is disgusting how he is manipulating the people of his state into getting shots (I will not call them vaccines, as they are not). All the lies he and his “Dr Fauci Knock Off”. I swear this is a PSYOPS against the people of Kentucky! Here is Andy’s email scam report from Monday:
Gov. Beshear Announces 2.5 Million Vaccination Challenge to Lift Many Capacity Restrictions
When goal is met, capacity restrictions and physical distancing requirements for nearly all venues, events and businesses that cater to 1,000 or fewer patrons will be lifted
FRANKFORT, Ky. (April 12, 2021) – On Monday, Gov. Andy Beshear announced the Team Kentucky Vaccination Challenge: When 2.5 million Kentuckians have received at least their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, the state will remove most capacity restrictions.
When the goal is met, the Governor said he will lift capacity restrictions and physical distancing requirements for nearly all venues, events and businesses that cater to 1,000 or fewer patrons. In addition, he will end the curfew for bars and restaurants.
“The question is, how quickly can we get there? With the vaccine supply we have, we could get there in as little as three-and-a-half weeks from now. That minimum time frame might not be realistic, but we should get there in four to six weeks if we are intentional,” said Gov. Beshear. “We have to try everything to reach this point as quickly as possible. That will help us have a more normal summer than any of us could have imagined this winter.”
Masking would remain in effect and mass gatherings would still be limited until COVID-19 variants are under control and more Kentucky children are able to be vaccinated. The Governor said Kentucky has reported cases of all three variants of concern: the B-117 variant first detected in the United Kingdom, the B-1427 and B-1429 variants first detected in California and the P1 variant first identified in Brazil.
The Governor said he estimates more than 1.6 million Kentuckians have received at least their first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine; he added that vaccination data would update to that number in the next two to three days after the state’s reporting system completed a security upgrade.
To see a list of vaccination sites that have openings this week, visit vaccinemap.ky.gov.
As he encouraged Kentuckians to get vaccinated, the Governor referenced comments from Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, who said the US economy is at an “inflection point” and that economic growth and job creation could accelerate if the U.S. continues to increase vaccinations and avoids another wave of COVID-19.
Anyone else seeing this crap from your governor?
It’s vaccine extortion.
Nothing more or less.
Vaccine extortion!
Think how the millions feel that have already got that vaccine. It should be permanently discontinued.
Masking would remain in effect and mass gatherings would still be limited until COVID-19 variants are under control and more Kentucky children are able to be vaccinated.
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IOW, restrictions will never be fully lifted due to ‘variants’. This guy is a participant with the globalist plans for America. He’s an enemy of the people.
Exactly!
Yeah Advacado,I’m seeing this crap from my Gov. too; since we have the same gov. Andy absolutely turns my stomach. He was installed by Dominion. His press conferences suck. I know people who listen to them with out fail and just eat them up. Sick Sick Sick.
How the hell did he get elected when Trump carried our state 62 to 36. Dominion that’s how. “oh, the positivity rate is going up again” Sheesh what a jackass.
We could trade Beasher for Cuomo and be no worse off.
I did not live in Kentucky during the 2018 election. I remember Bevin saying some (what I thought) ridiculously stupid things about teachers, so I was not surprised he didn’t win and thought nothing more of it. Several months ago, I saw a video on Rumble showing live feed from a news organization from the election period. My point: the video showed votes flipping from Bevin to Beshear in real time. Yes, I think Dominion flipped the election for Beshear.
He did piss off the teachers. But Bevin was sooo much better than this jerk.
He’s a DEM. There is video out there showing where that election was stolen.
We don’t to look at what our Governor has to say. He can have his vaccine tyranny.
He really did say that -> He’s a nut job.
Beshear’s Fakebook page is blowing up – against Beshear. The Kentucky people aren’t going to take this lockdown crap much more.
I have read there are other reported problems – women having painful, unusually heavy and irregular periods. I was on Fakebook when Gov Beshear- D, Kentucky was giving the bad news – there were a number of women (childbearing age) stating they were having problems with the J&J shots. One said she had been convulsing. I think this is a lot bigger than we know.
I agree with this. I think tons of side effects from all 3 shots- but all the emphasis is being placed on J and J for political reasons. I also think many of these geniuses in the medical field with these untested shots decided that the danger period is only in the first 15-30 minutes. When actually, as many have commented here at great length, the dangers can happen weeks later. That’s probably why so many cases were ignored for so long.
And..not to be ignored..the blood clots in these women were ALL in the brain. They are messing with humans’ brains. Johnson and Johnson was a late start vaccine and they obviously got careless in rushing to join the vaccine bandwagon. I hope these women all sue. This needs to be reported far and wide, on WHY it was paused.
They can’t sue, that’s the problem.
There go the Grandkids!!!!!!!
Don’t worry 0’biden will import more.
Oh, man!!! Is it bad to want my own???????
Yes, women bleed once a month if I recall… clotting issues will affect that directly. I’m sure I’m going to get some hate for this but I still think Trump got played. They had the virus and vax for years before. They just needed someone else to take the fall and Trump sure wants to be the one responsible for bringing everyone the vax. It’s a great play too, cuz he’s too proud not to see the trap..
My daughter and I were just talking about this. This was planned way before Trump. Maybe if the Hildabeast had cheated enough it would have fallen on her, but these were already in the pipeline. Now we find that DARPA has a implantable biometric device that is supposed to be inserted under the skin along with a new vaccine. They couldn’t have just come up with this since Trump. Folks we are in Mark of the beast territory.
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I tend to agree. Unfortunately, they found Trump’s Achilles’ Heel. Not only is his domain of expertise not science or medicine, and not only is he a germaphobe, but he’s an extremely kind and empathetic man who does not want to see people hurt or dying. So he was in a no-win dilemma.
The media was brutal when Trump floated the idea of reopening the country, brutal when he suggested any therapeutics (or even research for them), and unrelenting with the lies and attacks. So I suspect he figured that a vaccine (which they “delayed” too long for the election) might thwart this. In addition to making sure that ventilators (ugh) and temporary hospitals (unused) were available. Now what. A no-win.
It was a brilliant scheme.
Not to mention the billions in taxpayer dollars. They spent a lot taking us over.
They knew President Trump was a germaphobe
I think the blame falls squarely on the pharmaceutical companies.
It was their responsibility to tell him that the process requires years of animal studies. It was their professional responsibility to stand their ground.
Sounds like a plan……………. Flood the country with turd worlders, and sterilize our own female population at the same time. “Never let a good crisis go to waste…………..”
Illegals are bringing diseases into our country every hour of every day, and we’re flying them all over the country.
They don’t even need an ID to fly.
“… when will someone investigate what nanotechnology is in this serum …”
What “nanotechnology”?
The serum’s got little robots in it or something?
Where are you getting this innuendo? Link?
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/suspicions-grow-nanoparticles-pfizer-s-covid-19-vaccine-trigger-rare-allergic-reactions
thx for the link, Sherri
so not robots
very very small fat particles, near as I can tell (lipids)
https://www.wordnik.com/words/lipid
https://www.technocracy.news/transhuman-101-moderna-declares-covid-vaccine-to-be-an-operating-system/
Our Operating System
Recognizing the broad potential of mRNA science, we set out to create an mRNA technology platform that functions very much like an operating system on a computer. It is designed so that it can plug and play interchangeably with different programs. In our case, the “program” or “app” is our mRNA drug – the unique mRNA sequence that codes for a protein.
https://www.modernatx.com/mrna-technology/mrna-platform-enabling-drug-discovery-development
The vaccine is nanotechnology. You need to do a lot of research starting with nanotechnology and then read the medical literature on messenger RNA. Don’t expect someone here to do your basic research. Turn off the TV and start reading.
Just got this in an email –
At CDC’s request, Johnson & Johnson appts have been changed to Moderna. If you do NOT wish to receive Moderna, call 208-381-9500 to change or cancel.
I was going to get the J-and-J. Now I’m not getting any of them.
…glad hear that..so you will not contribute to depopulation…….
Correction: “contribute to” ^^ “…be a part of…”
An alternative view; A view that some have (deep down) but have not yet been able to express clearly…
“The tyranny of None are Safe until all are Safe”
https://www.francisberger.com/bergers-blog/the-tyranny-of-none-are-safe-until-all-are-safe
I won’t be taking ANY of these bull excrement vaccines. If I have any criticism of President Trump it would be his pushing these vaccines. Why do we need a vaccine for a virus with a 99.8% survival rate. Why ANYONE would trust the pharmaceutical industry is beyond me.
Unless…….Trump was a trojan horse.
President Trump knew beyond any shadow of a doubt that the availability of vaccines would significantly reduce the dark forces’ ability to generate continued hype to keep the nation closed down and economically failing. History proved him correct. But a year of media lies has brainwashed tens of millions of weak minded people into irrationally fearing this flu variant and believing whatever the fake news media tells them.
I believe PDJT would not have allowed the entire covid hoax from happening had he been truly supported by the Republican Party and provided sufficient political capital to have Fauci removed and replaced by qualified experts who understood the relatively mild threat posed by the virus. Those Trump-appointed replacement experts would have taken the country in an entirely different and far more rational direction.
It is my understanding that the J&J is structured like a traditional vaccine and will not hijack your RNA/DNA to create antibodies on its own. It’s the only vaccine that I would consider, too.
And to top it all off, when I called the number they said to call to cancel, all I got was a long recording.
NONE of them are “traditional” vaccines.”
And none of them are licensed either.
Call me a nut…why in God’s name would anyone agree to be given an injection that has not been tested completely or approved by the FDA? This has given me an entirely new perspective on flu shots, the pneumonia shot, the shingles shot, hell, the chicken pox shot, the HPV shot pump pumped into our kids years ago… My Mum was an RN. And I was taught, you trust doctors. …now…not so much…
They are all unnecessary. We have an immune system that does not require aborted fetal cells, formaldehyde, mercury, aluminum, monkey kidney cells, msg, propylene glycol etc….and various other toxins to offer us good “health”. They have been scam from the get go, the government does not care about our well-being.
I fear you are 100% correct!!!
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At least a scam since 1986. Reagan allowed two bad things as he weakened in his second term. The no-liability vaccine law, and the illegal immigration amnesty. No one is perfect.
Unfortunately, many people think of the great success of the smallpox and polio vaccines, and I’ll generously throw in the MMR (mumps, measels, rubella, because of the danger to adults, pregnant women) — with “vaccine”.
Well, I read recently that the so-called great polio vaccine was not really so great because it caused a lot of children to actually get polio instead of preventing it. That was covered up.
Far too many people have no clue how corrupt the AMA has become and continues to degrade. Big Pharma has too much clout.
I have a somewhat different take. I think the vaccine has not been fully approved by the FDA because it would take years and we don’t have years to get the economy back. Also, Americans are a litigious bunch and if it is “experimental only” no one can sue.
These giant pharmaceutical broke their necks to help us out and would not take the risk
to their reputation with faulty vaccines.
None of them are vaccines! They are all experimental gene therapy. The government calls them vaccines to prevent people from suing the Pharms.
You are correct, however they are calling them vaccines, even though they don’t technically meet the legal definition of a vaccine SO THAT they fall under the National Vaccine Protection Act. However, the pharmaceutical industry is protected from law suits. If you are injured by any vaccine you can fight it out with the government. The taxpayer pays for any damages done by vaccines. That was a nice little nefarious trick the pharmaceutical industry pulled off decades ago.
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Drug companies cannot be sued for vaccine harm Law since 1986.
I have an even better take. We don’t need a vaccine for a virus that has a 99.8% survival rate. We never needed to shut the country down in the first place. Wake up people. This is NOT about a virus. Repeat…. this is NOT about a virus. It is about an agenda. The globalist agenda. The Great Reset agenda. The covid virus is the vehicle to get that accomplished.
They have no liability! Put out a “vaccine…” So the plan is, everyone get shot up with an untested experiment so people feel better, whether or not it is efficacious and maybe the “powers the be” will allow us to travel, go back to work, go to church, ditch the masks, visit our parents in the nursing home, have a wedding, have a funeral…seems like that is not happening…
Glad you are wise to the situation. Back in my day, we all got chicken pox, measles and mumps. Our immune system are stronger because of it. My daughter did a high school paper on vaccines. She tracked the history of vaccines from when they were first introduced in the 1960’s to the mid 2000’s. The number of vaccines the CDC pushes on babies from birth to 18 years old is OUTRAGEOUS! There has NEVER been a study on giving that many vaccines, NO studies of the effects of combinations of multiple vaccines, etc. Why does the United States, a HIGHLY vaccinated population have so many auto-immune diseases? Why does ANY questioning of vaccines immediately get met with derision, scorn, attacks, etc. You are NOT ALLOWED to question ANY vaccine or you are called an anti-vaxxer. That alone should give people pause.
My Mom was an RN. I remember the chicken pox “parties.” There were five kids in our family. When the first one got chicken pox, Mom gave us all pudding…from the same spoon!!! We all survived! ?
that is correct.
Out of all the vaccines that are actually being jammed….interestingly the sputnik vaccine, adenovirus vectored, is about as close to “classical” vaccine used in the past.
whether we are talking about mRNA, J&J, or the sputnik or sinovac, they all go about doing one common thing, using different technologies and methods to accomplish it:
they all trigger the body to recognize the c-19 spike protein and only that c-19 spike protein. (S1, S2, and N of the RBD segments).
“classical” vaccines do not specify the part of the virus protein in this way. Most “classic” vaccines are “denatured” virus! Which is a fancy way of saying they are heating to a certain temperature or chemically altered to weaken them sufficiently that you are unlikely to get really ill, but enough of an effect that causes the human body to produce a immune response.
these nextgen vaccines, with emphasis on mRNA, are NOT denatured viruses of c-19. These are synthesized particles that are basically encapsulated lipid with a payload of RNA single strand “code”. This single strand “code” only provides instructions for the spike protein replication. So the body responds to this specific instruction and replicates the spike protein only. (not the dangerous c-19 “payload” that has the complete genomic rna sequence that causes the disease. The idea is similar to classic vaccines in some respects but very different in others. mRNA depends entirely on a method that causes the body to become a bioreactor for the spike target and THEN to respond to it with a strong immune response. On paper this looks elegant. And from a technology and logitistic pov, it is also desirable, because creating mRNA is fast to scale up and make minor changes over time as variations in the spike protein may mutate such that vaccine escape may happen.
with the more class vaccines, the body is not used in this way as a bioreactor. The vaccine is a weakened denatured virus (usually grown in humanized mice, or human cell line tissue). This is very time consuming and the precision is very hard to accomplish. Quality control usually results in about a 10% rejection rate! So at scale in a pandemic, classic adenovirus type classic vaccines are nearly impossible to get in arms….they work with things like seasonal flu, because the virus is known, well documented, understood, and strangely (unlike c-19) pretty much remains confined to a narrow heat/cold cycle in the weather around the world. So there is “time” before each season to get this in arms. with billions likely exposed to c-19 at this time, there is no way no how that classic vaccines will every reach enough arms to make a difference in immunity. It’s far more likely that herd immunity naturally will be achieved before that ever happens.
to an extend the same argument can be made with mRNA type vaccines too. While they are very easy and quality control is pretty darn good, it’s still a math problem: how can you crank out the number of vaccines and get them in arms around the world to everyone, before exposure.
the simple answer is that you can’t.
it is a fact that we are vaccinated people right now, who have already been exposed to c-19, and have likely established antibody immune memory cells to infer future immunity.
the one part missing from every discussion about any of these vaccines at this moment in time:
why isn’t the policy to test first for antibodies for c-19, collect that data, make a baseline and decide how that suggests for efficacy.
Because that is how you do it. It’s called phase 3. And strangely, no one is asking this question.
no one seems to want to know how to determine efficacy of these vaccines.
without a massive antibody test campaign, we will never know if immunity was a result of the human body in it natural state, or from a vaccine.
this applies to ALL vaccines.
a 90 mini-phase 3 with 44,000 people doesn’t cut it either. They never collected baseline antibodies for that phase either !!! think about that.
from aug 27- nov 12, is the FDA official “phase 3″…about 90 days. That was 8 months into the pandemic. At that moment most models were showing the spread of the virus was likely to expose at least 50 percent of us citizens. So, why did they skip on doing a antibody baseline campaign.
in any other application for a FSA approval, this would have been a deal breaker and the drug company denied a license. Period, full stop.
but not this time.
what changed?
why has the precautionary principled flushed down the toilet?
Retitiger, Out of curiosity, what is your background. Your post was fascinating. I’m going to guess you already know the answer to your last question. I have a guess…and it’s not good.
Excellent synopsis of the known, important facts.
They are the Facts that are actively suppressed and kept hidden from consumers of the Fake News Media and their political wing, the DemoCommunist Party.
Rather like comingling bad ballots with good: “we just can’t know now.”
I also had that understanding and why I was considering J&J. President Trump has done a good job explaining the situation between Pfizer and the FDA!
The Regeneron monoclonal antibody preparation (the one President Trump got when he had Covid19) can be used as a prophylactic treatment.
Ivermectin is also used prophylactically for Covid19.
Whatever else, just because you are a human being, make sure your vitamin D level is in the normal range.
There are many therapeutics available, where are the good doctors who can provide options?
I met a man who is pretty sure he had Covid19 in November before we even had an inkling there was such a thing and had no name for it. He went to the doctor, who said, “Well, it’s not the flu, but you have a lung infection.” So he simply proceeded to do what doctors know to do for lung infections, he gave him antibiotics to ward off any secondary pneumonia, and he gave him steroids to calm down the inflammation. The man (in his 40s) was well in about a week.
Why aren’t doctors just doing what they already know to do? It makes us patients feel like we are on our own.
We are on our own. Stay away from quacks they will kill you.
Bingo. When has a vaccine been pushed so hard if there are viable treatments available? This is the fly in the ointment for me and has been all along. Pres. Trump was treated and recovered quickly from Covid. Why does he keep pushing the vaccines which are not fully vetted yet nor licensed?
Why are they pushing the vaccines so hard now for our kids? Young kids who recover so easily and barely get sick from Covid? None of this makes sense to me and why I am very wary of getting vaccinated. I am really concerned about the children getting these vaccines at all.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/04/12/technocracy-vs-democracy.aspx
Antibiotics and steroids are what doctors have been prescribing to outpatients with Covid the whole time.
If only that were true.
On the contrary, I have heard repeatedly, and this was true with one person I know, that the doctors do nothing!
They diagnose you with Covid19 and then tell you to go home and see how you do. If you start getting into trouble, like your lips are turning blue, they will then admit you into the hospital.
Ka ching ka ching, and that is just wrong.
I’ve heard that exact same story from members of my family in Connecticut who tested positive and had mild symptoms. They were given no therapeutic meds (such as HCQ) or any instructions other than go home and wait to see what develops.
It is maddening. So simple to cure, but far too many AMA doctors refuse to buck the political winds and prescribe known safe meds.
PS – fortunately my family members all recovered with no lingering issues.
‘Practitioners’
Actually, J&J vaccine is a viral vector carrying covid DNA designed to insert into your cellular DNA so you cells can make the viral protein as antigen. Nothing traditional about it. In fact, it’s more intrusive (into your cellular DNA) than Pfizer’s mRNA version.
I believe it was Dr. Tenpenny who stated the J&J “vaccine” used aborted kidney and eye material from a baby aborted in the 1970’s. This was replicated for use. They desperately want to believe that aborted baby material can be “trained” to do what they want. In the past, all embryonic stem cells delivered was tumors so they temporarily went back to using adult stem cells and saw success. Now we are back to immature embryonic stem cells for the ultimate experiment using willing participants no less using fear as the motivation for!
Me too- it was the only one I was willing to take. I guess that choice is now gone.
It is not a traditional vaccine. There are almost no vaccines for viruses – think colds, hiv, herpes.the only exception I can think of is chicken pox, measles. For flu you get a flu shot it is not a vaccine either because you still can get the flu.
Hepatitis?
ALL Vaccines are a scam. We have been lied to.
I waited for the J&J vaccine because my friends had the Moderna and Pfizer and all had serious side
effects (after days or weeks they are all now fine). I also wanted it because it was structured like a
traditional vaccine and one only needed one shot. I had it last Wednesday and was tired on Thursday;
am feeling fine.
Perhaps I am a conspiracy theorist (in today’s word who isn’t LOL), but I think J&J didn’t pay off the
right government official. Or Pfizer or Moderna paid more LOL. I smell a rat.
What J&J has is different from Pfizer but it is not a vaccine. It is experimental gene therapy just like Pfizer and Moderna. In addition, Moderna never previously made any kind of vaccine.
Yes “traditional” with cloned cells and all.
I got the JnJ a month ago; I’m over 70; and I’m just fine, thank you. (If I keel over tomorrow, my husband has instructions to remove this comment!)
haha.
Here’s hoping the comment doesn’t “go missing”.
Anyway, I know someone who just got the J&J and I’ve been worried about her. So thanks for the report.
I got the J&J 3 weeks ago, am over 70, and am also just fine. And I don’t intend to keel over – from the vaccine at least. 🙂
I got my J&J March 10 and have done fine. 66 yrs old. Debated vaccinating at all. but decided to do it after much deliberation. J&J was the only one I would take. Even now I have driven myself crazy wondering if I did the right thing. I am exhausted with COVID, COVID, COVID and all that it entails.
Please don’t beat me up or shame me in comments.
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Thank you!
We are ALL exhausted with Covid, Covid, Covid. You made the decision that was right for you. ‘glad you have had no ill affects.
With all due respect we are not concerned about you reproducing. The women affected were all menstruating and of child bearing age.
got the j &j 3 weeks ago and fine as well and over 77 over 21 countries banned astr a-z and world wide there are about 4,000 deaths from mod and phizer combined check out sanity for sweden or called s 4 s
to Ad Rem…..as you noticed I do not use Caps…I hope you approve my comments…thanks
Thank you….we’re good. 😉
Is it caps that throw comments into the “waiting for approval” thang?
Cuz that happens to me nearly every nite, and I know I love to use caps.
And a note to Admins. if they’re still on this thread, I don’t need to get an email saying “been approved”.
Maybe I clicked a box by mistake that said I needed to get the email?
I’m all good with receiving an email. In fact, I think it is rather nice.
My husband got it 1 weeks ago. I’m watching his health like a hawk. Scary stuff
Bless you.
Let us know about 3-6 months include his mental; behavior, please……
“The cure is better than the vaccine.”
Antibody treatments, plasma treatments, vitamin supplement usage and time to understand the virus has helped as well as almost 50% of adult population vaccinated.
If 40% of Marines won’t get vaccinated, who believes rest of population feels differently?
I prefer using Frontline Doctors and their advice if I want to avoid the virus and build up my own immune system. I have no use for ANY of these so called “vaccines.” It’s at their website and you can also schedule a zoom doctor call and get a proper prescription for it and delivered in 48 hours.
https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/how-do-i-get-covid-19-medication/
Thank you! Great to know we can schedule an appt with them!!!
One of America’s Frontline Doctors ordered the HCQ I am taking for prophylaxis.
While reading the comments on an Epoch Times article about Ivermectin, I saw that one of our local doctors posted her website and said that she prescribes Ivermectin. Good to know.
People can also take the Ivermectin paste that is sold in feed stores. My son has been on a regimen of it since Dec. He also takes D3, Zinc, and C. He lives in a remote area and says that MANY rural folks are taking it.??
I have a generous supply of ivermectin paste right here in case I or anyone I know might need it. I’d like to get some of the ivermectin for humans too. I’m flying to Mexico City in about 3 weeks and coming back a day or two later. Going through customs with horse medicine might slow down my progress. LOL.
I asked about this at our local feed store several months ago and they thought I was crazy. I also tried to find out what the dosage would be (I’m sometimes a horse’s you know what, but I am technically not a horse!) for humans. Any additional info you or son could share?
It might help someone else; I do not get any notifications when there is a reply to my posts, so I’m alone out here!
I cannot get in touch with my son, but I know he follows Dr. Pierre Kory’s protocol. Although Kory’s website has the protocol for the tablets, the mg. per pound (of body weight) is the same. .09mg/lb. Here is his hugely informational website:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
As for notifications of replies to your comments…..just click the icon that is to the left of “Post Comment”. It is a gray bell with a slash through it. When you click it, it will turn green. After clicking it and “Post Comment”, you will receive an immediate email. Open the email and click on the middle blue link that says “Confirm Your Subscription”. THEN you will get an email each time someone replies to your comment!??
Thanks for the info!
The recommended dose of ivermectin for humans is 0.2 mg per kg of body weight. This amount is taken on days 1 and 3. That’s it. I think the same dose can be used once month for prophylaxis. I’m not a doctor, I just spend way too much time on the internet.
Whether sick or healthy, the other supporting supplements like vitamin D, zinc, quercetin, and n-acetyl cysteine (NAC) should not be omitted.
When you click on the link in my above post, the conversion table on pg. 2 of the paper on protocol for prevention says .2mg is per KILOGRAM. It is equal to .09mg per pound. Hope that helps.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
AFLDS is The Best resource for facts surrounding the covid hype and the “vaccine” poisons.
I still find it hard to believe that so many people are eager to be guinea pigs for this. We have no idea what the long term effects of any of these are. I remember learning about thalidomide babies in a criminology class in college. White collar crime they called it. I have a very bad feeling that we will see some negative outcomes with babies of moms who took the vaccine. I hope not.
Me neither!
President Trump needs to step away from this issue…. it’s hurting him by people that understand what these vaccines are about. Endorsing Rubio was not helpful either.
I don’t care what our government says about this. I don’t believe them or trust any of them. They lie too much for me to have any confidence in them.
Dr. Fraud is an exceptionally bad liar. He constantly contradicts himself and keeps redefining and moving the goal posts with no shame whatsoever. I wonder who is controlling him.
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Find the person doing his rhinoplasty . . .
Hard to say.
Fauci has been in bed with the Chi-Coms for years. Our money went to fund this disaster in Wuhan.
Unless Trump is setting up BigPharma, Pfizer, Moderna, J&J , Fauci and Birx, CDC, FDA, Bill Gates.
To me he seems to be stirring the pot. Drawing attention to it.
There have been several miscarriages and stillborn babies after the Pfizer shot(s). I wondered today why it wasn’t “paused.” After reading POTUS 45’s statement I think I have my answer.
My wife was 12 hours from getting her JJ vaccine and asked me my opinion. I said basically the same thing.
Why not take a step back and let this play out? You’re submitting to be a test rat… AND THEY ARE FREE FROM LIABILITY! At least I would assume. Either way, our discussion worked because she skipped her appointment last week.??
Herd immunity for crying out loud. Animals and viruses are two different kingdoms of life. We’ve been coexisting for thousands of years.
Good news, animals refused the vaccine until the human trials were completed.
The animals they used, cats and ferrets died. They survived the first two shots, but when they injected the virus, they all died. That was one of the problems the FDA cited in not approving it – safety and efficacy. Pushing this through using Bill Gates funded and wildly inaccurate IHME model (Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation).
Bill Gates-Funded IHME Coronavirus Model Wrong Again – 12,000 ICU Beds Projected For New York Today, Only 4,100 Used
By Cristina Laila
Published April 4, 2020 at 2:14pm
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This model was pushed by Dr. Birx, the scarf queen, who conveniently sits on the board of the Bill Gates funded foundation. It was used to justify closing down schools, crash the stock market and destroy the economy. A the time the projections were horrifying and we didn’t know what we were dealing with or how insane this model was.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/bill-gates-funded-ihme-coronavirus-model-wrong-12000-icu-beds-projected-new-york-today-4100-used/
The CDC, FDA are so politicized follow their directives (propaganda) at your own risk. The CDC is a ‘woke’ government agency, it has a socialist agenda. They are not driven by fact or science, they are agenda driven.
Yeah, when first seeing this and remembering J&J made a ‘Trump’ deal for a no-profit fast-track I figured it was another ‘get Trump’ Trump still living in their heads rent free deal. Politics.
At this point your description applies to literally all government agencies and departments, federal, state and local.
Including the DOD.
I almost went to work there back in the mid 70s. Thank God I had a better offer and was able to stay away from those people. Plus, I didn’t want to live in Atlanta, even back then.
Science is and has always been an important part of my life. The CDC left science behind years ago.
Quoted tweet from Zerohedge:
“ *FDA TELLS HEALTH PROVIDERS TO WATCH FOR BAD HEADACHE, LEG PAINS
So 10 million Americans are about to go to the ER”
Every single person I know who got the vaccine has gotten a headache! They all say stupid stuff like, “that’s how you know it is working” eyeroll
I guess it is really working great when you end up dead! That is the Gates philosophy.
Yep, some people go to the ER or their doctor if they simply wake up feeling bad.
My grandmother used to tell us that if we wanted to stay healthy, stay away from doctors and hospitals. It kind of makes sense because you can pick up an infection at a hospital or doctor’s office that can make you sick or even kill you. She lived to 89 and as far as I know, she went to see doctor only one time her entire life.
I stopped going to doctors too. It was enough for me when they started asking personal questions about my relationship with my husband and my sex life! My sister died of cancer 4 years ago. She was on every medication known to man – high blood pressure, cholesterol, hormones, thyroid and depression pills. I truly believe taking these poisons is what causes cancer too! Then they drugged her up on radiation, chemotherapy, and other types of infusions. She died and the last drug she had was a fentynal patch. She was a zombie and could barely communicate or recognize us in the end! It was horrible!
So sorry for what your sister went through! I lost a lot of confidence in doctors when I took my daughter for a check up and they asked me to step out while they asked her some questions. (She was homeschooled, and they wanted to find out if she was able to socialize, if she was being abused, etc.) I never made that mistake again.
Wise lady, your Grandmother!
Joe, you just said something I didn’t think of. Holy cow!
You know the feeling when someone brings up head lice and you start feeling every itch on your body?
Will this now flood the hospitals with panic from everyone? Good grief these people.
And they’ll report it as: ER rooms overcrowded with Covid “concerns”.
All you need to know:
https://www.bards.fm/e/bardsfm-interview-with-dr-andrew-wakefield/
This is an excellent article that I saw posted on this site a few days ago. I took the time to read all of it, (it’s long)…but very well written and clear. I recommend:
https://anthonycolpo.com/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-the-life-saving-drug-that-seems-to-be-killing-people/
All the vaccine makers are using the whole spike protein of the coronavirus instead of taking the time to isolate where on the spike protein is best for antibodies to form and attack. And since using the whole spike protein, one can develop the side effects of having the virus itself, which can include the blood clots as well as the bad flu symptoms.
We’re not getting any of the vaccines, although my husband’s mother, sisters, and brother and their spouses have gotten the Pfizer one. I have heard the Pfizer one may have less side effects and that Moderna can be a doozy on the second shot.
We will wait, if at all, we would get one for them to develop a good vaccine. This is still not FDA approved, only under emergency. I do not want an mRNA vaccine. Since the vaccine makers are free from liability and it is not FDA approved, any employer or other business would be under liability if they were to try to force the vaccine on anyone. I also do not want long term side effects, that’s the last thing I need.
I don’t want the virus, but (knock on wood), any time I’ve or others in my household, felt ill, I take the “regime”. I am on Vit D anyway, but will take an Airborne effervescent, an L-lysine, and zinc picolinate. I really think the zinc picolinate zaps whatever coming on. One time I felt ill one evening, took everything but the zinc, the next day I felt worse and that I was really coming down with something. I took the zinc then and a couple hours later the illness was leaving and felt a lot better, next day completely gone. I also have Quercetin on standby. I am just vigilant about taking something right away when not feeling well and not let any virus build in my system. Someone here recommended licking even chili pepper off the palm when feeling something going into your throat and I have done that! If any of us do get sick with it, I am taking Dr. Marek’s protocol with me to the hospital, they are all touting the Ivermectin as very effective treatment.
Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
I also haven’t had a flu shot in years.
But I am concerned that all this mass vaccination may create a super virus sort of like bacteria resistant to antibiotics, as it continues to mutate and people still get it. vaccine or not. God help us.
Sounds like you are doing a lot of the right things. Zinc is good for warding off flus and colds, but with covid, zinc alone can often just bounce off the spike proteins and be less effective. According to Dr. Zelenko, HCQ or Quercitin paves a way into the virus, so the zinc can go into the virus and kill it. Here is an updated version of Dr. Zelenko’s covid protocol — he mentions Ivermectin as an effective covid treatment as well. (And Dr. Marek is great, too — he came up with a simple protocol for sepsis at EVMS…)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TaRDwXMhQHSMsgrs9TFBclHjPHerXMuB87DUXmcAvwg/edit
Thanks, I have the Quercetin on stand by. I am not taking it prophylactically, I use the l-lysine at times, which can be an anti-viral sort. That helped someone here very early on, who had COVID and was wheezing. I haven’t seen her around for a while but she popped her head in once months later to say she was still taking it along with her other medication and was doing well, but still recovering. This was Sky Phoenix.
I think I saw the same post. I have Quercetin and Zinc on standby as well.
Why would any right-thinking person want to take one of these anti-virus vaccines when the recovery rate is about 99.7% for the Covid-19 virus infection? Donald J. Trump is entirely on the wrong side of this issue and he has been since the Covid-19 virus was first introduced into the United States. DJT is a germaphobe and is a real sucker for all the medical misinformation that is here surrounding this false flu bug since it first started. This is on you, Bubba Donald! Add this to all your nepotism and gross mistakes you made in hiring staff members and appointing advisors, and you just ain’t the greatest thing since sliced bread.
This hype about virus vaccines is all about making many $billions for the pharmaceuticals each year and it always has been. Why do you think there is such a thing as the “cholesterol myth”? Answer – $billions for the pharmaceuticals. Why do medical advisory boards keep lowering the safe standard levels year after year for blood pressure until now, if those standards were followed, about 50% of adults would be on blood pressure medications? Answer – $billions for the pharmaceuticals; and I could go on and on. Why are we being told to wear masks to prevent Covid-19 infections while study after study shows that masks do not help prevent viral infections but do help trap bacteria in our masks and make it more likely we will contract a bacterial infection? Answer – to help condition us to become subservient deplorables who cannot think and act for ourselves and to have no concept of critical thinking and be able to take responsibility for our own lives and financial support.
If somebody is really old & fat, let them take it if they want, IDGAF. I ain’t taking any vaccine. It’s the social pressure and the vaccine passport idea that I cannot stomach. If that means I can’t go to England, big f’n deal. Why would I want to go to England anyway?
Your point on the blood pressure meds is right on! Every year My blood pressure stays the same but they keep changing the standards. My doc says, “Oh, this is concerning…”
I noticed that every time I go to the dentist, they take blood pressure. What on earth.
The DENTIST??!!
My colleague got the Pfizer vaccine about a month ago. He had a dental appointment the next day, was not feeling too great but went anyway. The took his BP at the dental appointment, it was 180/96!! This was most likely vaccine related. He should have gone to the ER but he didn’t and it did resolve but yikes.
It could be they have included it as a “best practice” measure because sometimes people don’t react so well to those novocaine injections and if your BP or oxygen is crazy then they might want to hold off on the “caines” injection.
The dentist might take your blood pressure because if he is trained to do so, he knows that people who have silent oral infections also often have high blood pressure due to pain and stress. A well known cardiologist went to see his dentist friend and told him that he was having high blood pressure, even though he was in good physical condition, ate a wholesome diet, and was relatively young. So the dentist did a through oral examination and found an infected area in the right upper jaw of the cardiologist and explained that his MD friend needed to have his upper moler excised. The cardiologist asked, “Do I have to?” The dentist replied, “If you want to get well! A couple of weeks later, the blood pressure was back down to a normal level.
They do the dame with cholesterol medication so they can sell more drugs!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$
Yup!!! Solution? Quit taking the meds? My doc wants to keep upping the prescription….
A few years back my blood pressure was way up. I went to a grocery store and checked it and it was pretty high so I asked the pharmacist about it. He told me to go righ now to instacare. I said yeah, not gonna happen. My eye Dr. said lyou need to do something about that high blood pressure” and insisted I go see his wife’s PA. I told him I wouldn’t. So I went on a sorta keto diet and lost 60 lbs and blood pressure is down. Don’t need no stinkin pills.
Weight is key. My sister (very overweight) is pre-diabetic and on blood pressure meds. I told her drop the weight and your issues will be solved. We come from pretty good stock.
You should understand (if your doctor is a usual allopathic doctor) that your doctor pads his income by writing more prescriptions for medications, usually made by a small number of pharmaceuticals. Those pharmaceutical companies pay for your doctor’s fabulous vacations on some getaway island in the Caribbean or somewhere in the south pacific. That is why in a usual practice, the doctors want to see another patient about every 15 minutes. Sometime, when your are in the waiting room at your doctors office, pay attention to the appearance of the pharmaceutical reps when they come in. They will be dressed in sharp clothing and will be physically fit and spic and span. The ladies will be very attractive and fit and firm. They will be all smiles and rather charismatic and know how to pleasantly verbally respond to just about anything. Male doctors are also easily impressed by young beautiful ladies who are well spoken.
…and so what to do you suggest? Ignore my doctor? Stop taking the meds? Be assured, I am not asking you for medical advice, But I guess I am…Confront my doctor? (That won’t go well, I think…).
I have one doctor that knows that I smoke. She said Cigarettes are the perfect delivery system. How many do I smoke, how much of the cigarette do I smoke? How hard do I suck the smoke in? Why do I smoke? When do I smoke? Do I drink when I smoke? What-do I drink? This was a doctor. I smoke 100’s…light it, two or three hits, then out. Smoke when I’m watching tv or talking to my husband, always have a beverage. Smoking without water or coke, or tea, or wine is just gross.
Agree. I can’t have a smoke without something to drink!
Exactly!
So many other nations allowed early outpatient use of HCQ + Zn and later Ivermectin which is proving even better.
The nations that took the therapeutics road will win. The problem with the “vaccines” is not the low number of adverse reactions (to be expected when mass vaccination of adults is occurring) but that the vaccines are only partially effective, and will thus drive mutations of viral strains.
Ivermectin will still be effective when the first “vaccines” no longer are. For the vaccine nations it’s going to be booster shots and vaccine passports forever.
These vaccinations are about money, power and control. And big pharma gets disgustingly rich, more so than they already are.
Using our tax dollars to boot! Then donating to the uniparty for the favor of providing them funding.
People are being conditioned to take vaccines based on fear. In time they will inject you with more things you don’t want. Notice who is EXEMPT from vaccines. They are our replacements!
No testing or vaccines for them! They now estimate that 50% have it so that will keep the numbers up as they are disbursed into our population! Some don’t even have court dates to see if they can justify their being here. It’s maddening.
Unless we get leaders and frankly a voting population with common sense!
Pretty sure I posted this before but here it is again. Long but very informative. They were talking about the clots and more. All are doctors. Its a zoom meeting.
https://rumble.com/vf90s3-karladine-panel-033121-vaccine-mania.html
If people want to take a vaccine that’s fine with me; if people don’t want to take a vaccine that’s fine with me. I am not taking it.
I have no problem with Trump getting these developed; it was important to be able to offer the fear people hope. I am more appalled that he brags about the masks being something he pushed…that is so damaging to the psyche and also the brains and lungs particularly of children. I also am appalled that he shut the country down because he was duped by those two stupid doctors.
However, as President, he had to think about all the people and so he did what he thought was best for the people and the country. I don’t hold a grudge..well maybe about the masks because people are still wearing the stupid things.
Like you I support Trump but I am not getting a shot. It gets me to no end the way the commies bash Trump to death for his handling of covid but then line up to take a shot that he promoted.
Apparently their is politics and then there is phobia.
The MSM scared the ? out of them. But if these shots behave in the same way other mRNA vaccines behaved in the animal trials, those who received these shots could be in for a world of trouble when they are introduced to a wild virus. All the animals who were part of mRNA vaccine trials seemed to be doing good until they were introduced to a wild virus and they all died. If that happens in the fall the death toll will be an apocalyptic nightmare and President Trump and his family might not make it either.
He’s probably bringing up masks because of that Woodward interview Graham supposedly pushed him into doing.
People should have enough information to make an informed decision. I am not going to berate them over whatever they decide. As for us, we don’t want any of their “vaccines.” We are strongly against it. We can co-exist with others that are for it or have taken it and we don’t wish any of them ill will.
Yes….and the trick is to be *able* to be informed enough to make a decision.
I point out that since the fascists ban, bury, deny, destroy any information that criticizes or is contrary to their dogma, it is hard to get this information out to the public. It’s out there – I’ve already read one article posted in this thread and have another on tap – but for the average person, no, they are too well fed from the force feeding and hysteria to be interested….aka brainwashed.
That’s true too. They HIDE the truth so you have to dig more for it. Over the years, we have come to know which websites are credible and which are not so we lean on the credible ones a lot and get email updates.
Yeah there are always the brainwashed people … addicted to the lefty media like CNN etc..
Keep posting!
He gave us the info and let us make up our own minds. Can’t fault him for that!
I am in no hurry to engage the science experiment, whether Trump encourages it, or not.
I already had Covid symptoms along with spouse and other family, tested positive, and recovered fairly quickly (thanks Ivermectin)
Blood clots are serious business and one reason why I am wary of birth control pills, as well as long distance drives and airline flights. I try to get up and move around for blood circulation, at least every hour.
Blood clots are also a symptom of Covid, and one of the hazards of pregnancy, in general.
https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/features/blood-clots-pregnant-women.html
There are other serious potential hazards besides blood clots, and could take a year or so to show up:
https://pandemic.warroom.org/2021/04/13/expert-cardiologist-issues-dire-warning-experimental-vaccines-are-ineffective-and-could-cause-mad-cow-disease/
Nothing good results when science and money mix with politics.
Wasn’t that long ago 6 in millions was a non-statistic, no?
Mid April, almost 50% of US adult population vaccinated, what does our gov’t do to prolong the illness, take away millions of vaccines!
We are nearing herd immunity and no one is talking about it?
Supposedly there are 600 million doses of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines so plenty for everyone to get their 2 jabs if they want to. J and J vaccine is being targeted for a pause for some other reason imo. What it is will probably be revealed later on. The astra Zeneca vaccine is getting the boot too. Valid reasons for eliminating both or not? Who knows.
WHO quietly redefined herd immunity to everyone getting a vaccine. That is on the WHO website.
WHO Redefines Herd Immunity in Push for Coronavirus Vaccination
By Neil Campbell
January 1, 2021
https://visiontimes.com/2021/01/01/who-redefines-herd-immunity-in-push-for-coronavirus-vaccination.html
Herd immunity has been redefined to being achieved when the majority of the population is VACCINATED!
Note: I have a friend who lives in Sri Lanka.
Total covid deaths: 575 people, last time I checked.
Population: 22 million
Reason for low death rate, as explained by my friend:
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE, main treatment !!!
This is what the Establishment Misleadia has been hiding. While most nations who started with HCQ+ZN now prefer Ivermectin, the data up to November 2020 shows that the nations that allowed early outpatient use of HCQ saw a 70% reduction in case mortality compared to those nations afflicted with TDS.
Ivermectin has a longer window of efficacy than Hydroxychloroquine but even better, 12 trials on prophylaxis show 88% effectiveness in preventing people even contracting the virus. Given it works for all strains, it is more useful than the “vaccines” that only work for some.
Even Dr Fauci said after the first covid – SARS that occurred in 2002-2003, that hydroxychloroquine was effective against SARS.
In Sri Lanka, as soon as people show symptoms they are put on HCL and my friend said the overwhelming majority recover – which is supported by the statistics.
The real catastrophe of SARS-2/covid is that many people around the world DIDN’t have to die!!!!
I still believe it, even though Dr. Marek doesn’t so much. I think he was pushed politically.
So the company I work for is making it a requirement and mandatory for all employees to get vaccinated. What I want to know is are these companies liable for the adverse effects this vaccine can have?
Is this a large, national corporation ?
My husband’s is …. and they aren’t making it mandatory..
My husband and I work for the same company. They are “encouraging” it but not pressing too much. Hopefully this J&J info will get them off the subject for awhile.
I would have them sign something to that effect. I will take this poison when you take responsibility for anything that happens to my health. I am sure they will back away.
My husbands company makes the employees sign a consent form saying that your on your own and the company takes no responsibility for any adverse reactions or death. I told him I would rather live in a cardboard box with him than in this house without him. No vaccine for us.
They aren’t your medical provider & have no business dictating your PRIVATE healthcare decisions.
So if they are forcing you to inject an experimental (who knows what) into your body to keep your job- I would make it abundantly clear they’ll be held 100% LIABLE for any adverse reactions you suffer (Immediate or longterm).
In fact, I’d make them sign a legal doc accepting full responsibility b/c you are complying against your better judgement to remain employed.
If people don’t start challenging the violation of personal liberty & rights, they’ll keep pushing the boundaries.
Yeah, there’s got to be a Legal disclaimer hidden in there somewhere. Just don’t sign it.
‘Course, they may try to figure out a way to fire you for not signing.
Bring up topic of discrimination for trying to force vaccinations
Your company might just change their minds on that requirement after today…
Because the “vaccines “ are NOT FDA approved, members of the military cannot be forced to take them. So if the Government can’t force our military I would think that private companies wouldn’t be able to force their employees.
These vaccines do not stop the spread, it may only help lessen the symptoms of it.
What the hell are they telling these people? It’s not a real vaccination.
They cannot make it mandatory for an experimental gene therapy(which is what it is) Get a lawyer.
Ask a lawyer.
My sister-in-law works in a casino here in South Dakota, and the management gave her and the other employees a choice; either take the vaccine or seek other employment.
This shocked me, but not sure as to why after all I have witnessed this year.
My doctor told me it was illegal for companies to mandate it because it is under emergency use only.
1 in 1,000,000 chance of problems? If this was a normal vaccine, I’d say that’s acceptable. Risk of getting polio vs a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of complications from the vaccine? Sure, I’ll take the vaccine. Same goes for most other vaccines that we all(?) had as a kid. BUT THIS AIN’T THAT! Even if the odds were BILLIONS to one I wouldn’t be taking this thing. NOT because I’m worried it’s dangerous…. but because I still believe almost everything to do with COVID is political.
How many of those are death with Covid and death of Covid?
I’m with you, jello.
They took a medical thang and made it 100% Political.
So…….
And YT, twitter, etc. blocking differing opinions is kind of like the icing on the cake. The whole thing’s been turned into a Propaganda Mess.
Why anyone would trust a thing they say is beyond me.
There are about 2.8 millions deaths in the U.S. each year.
They’re telling us that about 550K people have died from COVID in the last year in the U.S.
Doing the math, that means that about 1 in every 5 deaths in the U.S. are from COVID…
GIVE ME A BREAK!!
That is what happens when our government pays hospitals who had someone die with Covid! It is always about the money!
You have to remember that hospitals were being incentivized ( to the tune of 13K/per death) to certify the death certificates of many as due to COVID-19 even if it was caused by complications associated with COVID-19 but not directly to it. So those numbers are basically worthless and bereft of any statistical meaning. The hospitals did this because the CDC and many state regulatory bodies told them to cancel all elective procedures (which make a great deal of money for the hospitals) because of the expected flood of COVID-19 victims (which never materialized in the first wave). Later in the second wave of the fall/winter of ’20-’21 it only became a problem because hospitals went back to a modified admissions procedure that did cause a bed availability problem when the second wave of infections hit (even with mask and social distancing protocols in place).
Whatever your opinion is of the COVID-19 shots, depending, your chances of getting a blood clot after taking the J&J shot are somewhere between 0.0001%-0.0004%, if my quick calculation is correct. Many times lower then dying from COVID-19.
Edit: Math should be double-checked. 6 out of 6 million total, or 6 out of an estimated 1.5 million pre-menopausal women.
True, the risk from this issue seems pretty small, much smaller than the risk of dying from COVID…
ASSUMING THE NUMBERS WE’RE BEING SHOWN RE. COVID DEATHS IS ACCURATE!
HUGE ASSUMPTION.
I alway find that statement to be pretty haughty. If you are the one dying or being injured by a dumb donkey vaccine those number mean nothing. There are treatments for covid and really no need for a vaccine at all even for older, sicker people but the government doesn’t want that information out there and we need to be asking why and what really is the agenda.
Would love to hear from Dr. Scott Atlas on this. He is a neuroradiologist.
Just got an email from Rand Paul how democrats are trying to make covid passports mandatory and how it is against the constitution. And at the bottom, there are various amounts I can contribute to help stop this.
I am so sick of republicans sitting on their hands and using the corrupt left’s agenda to fundraise. How about you do your job and stop them!
doesnt rand get a salary? he goes and vtes NO …the end of this input.
I don’t fear Covid. I fear vaccine passports.
BTW, for almost 2 days now I have felt like I have had a light to moderate case of the flu, although it seems to be lessening now. Maybe it is the covid / China Flu. I think a lot of people have only relatively mild symptoms or even no symptoms, so could be. If I croak I will try to send a comment, but probably won’t be able to.
overdose on E-mergency, I’m talking 8 to 10 packs a day or more.
I personally love that stuff.
Forget mixing in a cup of water, pour a little at a time under your tongue that way it hits the bloodstream the fastest and you don’t waist time sipping from a cup, then swallow and repeat.
Raspberry is the best.
That would be Emergen-C for anyone curious.
URL to product website: https://www.emergenc.com/
(I have no direct or indirect financial interest in the product)
I like Airborne. I take Vitamin C daily, but run to the Airborne and the first sniffle.
Hoping for the best for you. If not, there is still an upside. You may not be able to comment, but at least you can still vote!?
Please read the Dr. Marek, frontline critical care doctors protocol. Get some zinc picolinate 50 mg, Quercetin, vit D, and I take Airborne for Vit C. I posted this above.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
if it is coronavirus, you need to get on the Ivermectin for one.
Here’s the deal…
I spoke with a couple of nurses and a doctor who said of all the vaccines that are the safest to take was J&J and that’s what they would only take.
I find it ironic that they stopped J&J.
still not going to take any of them though!
J&J is not mRNA, so old school vaccine. However, as far as I understand it, they have never isolated the sequencing of the COVID virus, non-mutated, so what they are using is equivalent to cold virus RNA to jump start your immune system to recognize a kind of generic corona virus strain. It will probably be mildly effective. I personally think those people that got the clotting problems probably got the more deadly form of COVID. There are different strains circulating, I do believe the one causing the clotting issues affecting the ACE receptor and causing cytokine storm is the original strain that was genetically modified in the Wuhan lab.
J&J must not have paid the protection money.
Very good point !!!
That statement from Trump is very disappointing. None of the vax’s are safe to take, he should be ashamed. I was a supporter of his, I voted for him twice, but I am beginning to realize he is not what I always thought he was. Not on my side anyway.
So….you gonna run out and take the vax just cuz “Trump said so” ?
People need to get a grip. Develop that backbone.
My point is, who CARES what Trump thinks about the vax. It’s your body, your life, and YOU are the one who makes the decisions.
ACT like it!
Dan: “That statement from Trump is very disappointing. None of the vax’s are safe to take, he should be ashamed. I was a supporter of his, I voted for him twice, but I am beginning to realize he is not what I always thought he was. Not on my side anyway.”
I voted for him twice (enthusiastically), and would do so again, no qualms.
Simply put – if you expect someone to be able to read your mind and conform to your positions 100% (even while knowing that not 100% of his supporters agree with your positions 100%), then yes, you may be naive enough to “begin to realize”.
Myself, I do realize that not anyone except me personally is going to match my own positions 100%. I’ll settle for the over 95% that he does support positions as I do. If you set yourself up for “100% or nothing” then you’re setting yourself up to fail. JMO.
Six in 7 Million, all women?
Pause for the cause…
Quick, start printing those “Mail-In Ballots”.
My wife has had both shots of the Pfizer “vaccine” and I’ve not had any of them. I really don’t intend to get any of them. I’m fairly healthy for my age (68), with normal blood pressure, normal blood sugar, normal cholesterol, and a slightly abnormal brain.
We’re both at the point in our lives where every day we live is like icing on the cake, so if either of us goes tomorrow we’ve had a good life. We’ve been blessed with wonderful children, grandchildren, and even a couple of great-grandchildren.
My biggest concern about the “vaccines” (and I use the term loosely) is the long-term effects, up to and including altering one’s DNA. Nobody knows what the effects will be in five years or ten years.
Here’s a great article by a very intelligent, well-educated Christian man who sheds light on the risks. He’s not a medical doctor, but probably has ten times the science education a typical medical doctor has.
https://sciencewithdrdoug.com/2020/11/27/will-an-rna-vaccine-permanently-alter-my-dna/
I wonder why very few scientists are raising the question of potential risks and long term effects associated with this brand new approach in vaccine development, that is, using your body’s genetic materials (cellular DNA in J&J, mRNA in Pfizer) to produce viral protein (antigen) inside your own cells. Both of these vaccines are not traditional vaccines. The fact that they are trying very hard not to reveal this fact to the public should give people pause before taking it.
Pro vaccine expert issues urgent warning against global vaccination in the middle of a pandemic.
Former Pfizer VP, Dr Mike Yeadon, warns of global depopulation event resulting from mRNA vaccines.
https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-to-aflds-entirely-possible-this-will-be-used-for-massive-scale-depopulation/
Both of these links have been shared here at CTH previously, but may pick up some new interest here.
There is NO pandemic.
wouldnt steal and election
wouldnt sabotag non-mrna vaccines
I did a little more digging through the VAERS database (Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System) https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html . This a US Government website.
As of April 13, 2021 so far the adverse reactions reported by vaccine:
Vaccine … Reactions … Deaths
J&J ……………….5,325 …… 41
Moderna….. 20,305 ….. 991
Pfizer……….. 20,203 ….. 847
unknown ……….. 69 ……… 9
The Moderna and Pfizer are mRNA gene therapies. These are not adjusted by number of doses administered, but still, looking at these data, why would they shut down the J&J and not all of them?
Ten percent or less of adverse reactions are reported.
TY I’ve done quite a bit of research and to break it down is not easy…
Oh, geez, somehow I read the side effects of the Pfizer one were minimal and it sure doesn’t look like the case here.
In 2013 I developed a DVT in my left leg. No apparent reason. I had been warned by my mom during my childhood to be wary of injury and the risk of blood clots but no reason was given, just that we had family history if clotting.
After blood work was done it was i was diagnosed “Protein S deficiency and evidence for something called anti-phospholipid syndrome. Both of these make you much more prone to clots being formed.” This is hereditary and it runs on the maternal side, affects female primarily but males can get it.
In further research another symptom/risk was miscarriages in females with these types of blood disorders. Almost every female (mother, aunts, nieces, cousins) have had at least one miscarriages. In my case I had two, sister had three.
I am on blood thinners for life.
I was 48yo at the time of the diagnosis.
Blood clots are a risk with all the covid shots.
Regardless, I will not take one.
“Pauses?” What a euphemism!
Sounds like they know they are in deep shit!
A disaster Nate? 0.00000085%…based upon this stat the vaccine is safe.
I smell mega lawsuits against J&J on behalf of the plaintiffs scum lawyers….that’s all.
The blood clots appear to be related to being on the birth control pill according to my doctor today. If true it has limited impact on males. We know the mechanism of the clots but not why only some are impacted but not the vast majority. One death in Europe was supposedly of a male. I like to know the risk factors and then make my own decision regardless of the risk to the many.
I wish PDT had kept quiet on this. My fear is when there are mass deaths due to vaccines they will blame it on him.
Had that feeling for a long time.
Biden keeps trying to claim credit for the vaccines.
I have felt that if the vaccines go south they will point at Trump.
This 75 y/o lady in Mexico died 15 minutes after receiving the (Chinese) Sinovac vaccine. She was pronounced dead 40 minutes later at the hospital, but she keeled over dead at 15 minutes. Not to worry though, the medical examiner said the vaccine didn’t do it.
They doing the opposite with vaccine deaths that they did with COVID deaths
With COVID, every death in America was COVID even if they died all mangled up from a car wreck or was already in hospice with only weeks to live due to cancer. .
With the vaccine death they keep claiming it was pre existing condition or ?? regardless how healthy the person was.
Just noticed that I failed to include the link.
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/hidalgo-woman-75-dies-40-minutes-after-receiving-covid-vaccination/
It’s like playing Russian Roulette with your body.
I can’t even take a flu shot without getting sick. REALLY SICK–within hours!
I will continue to build up my immunity and practice the original guidelines…wash hands, etc.!
Vitamin D3 has been widely recommended too. Helps your body respond better to illness.
ICYMI – FYI – WTF — Trust Science — ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ —
That table lacks the number of each brand that have been given. It is hard to get perspective without that bit of data.
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Covid-19 isn’t smallpox. It’s not the Black Plague. It’s not polio.
Stay away from the vaccine. For otherwise younger, healthy people who are not obese and have adequate vitamin D levels, just stay away.
6 cases in 7 million may be an acceptable risk (unless you are one of the unlucky 6), but we have NO idea what the long-term “side effects” of these vaccines could be.
At the risk of appearing anti-MAGA, I have to say that PDJT’s blasting of the FDA/CDC over the ‘pause’ in Janssen vax administration doesn’t look good. I know Operation Warp Speed was done under his aegis.
But it’s not a good look for VSG to be all “there’s nothing wrong with our GREAT vaccines!”. There’s plenty wrong with them, and J&J’s is the most benign.
This just lends more credence to the notion that PDJT has been in on the great game since January 2020. It pains me to think that this is the case. Perhaps he had no choice, but such could have been said re: the 2020 election, etc.
We can, and should, do better than this. Our national integrity depends on it.
All these “vaccines” are dangerous. I am terrified that we are going to see lots of sick/dead people over the next several years from these experimental gene therapies.
These were probably the plan, but minimum of months in the future.
Hot off the presses and not okay.
FDA to Extend Emergency Authorization of COVID-19 Vaccine to Adolescents Without Advice From Advisory Committee
https://www.theepochtimes.com/fda-to-extend-emergency-authorization-of-covid-19-vaccine-to-adolescents-without-advice-from-advisory-committee_3774581.html
Hey Nate, you blithering idiot, 6 people did die taking your stupid vaccine. He’s not just awful at polling, he’s just awful.
Concern over the vaccines is purposely done to keep the goalposts cruising ahead over the horizon in perpetuity… we’ll never survive COVID as a society
South Africa Covid strain sickens vaccinated people more than the unvaccinated…
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04-african-covid-variant-bypassing-pfizerbiontech.html
An immunization pause. Why??????
Because America was getting back to normalcy and the Covid Control Cartel couldn’t have it happen…..they want an endless cycle of lockdown and fear.
Done and done. Trump was the Covid Trojan Horse.
Covid became a thing under Trump. Its his national emergency we are living under
Lock downs happened under Trump
Rushed vaccines that are NOT vaccines happened under Trump
Military put into place all over the country just waiting for a state to get out of line with the federal government happened under Trump. Just wait till this one plays out….
How do you get a bunch of gun loving conservatives to go along with a national lock down and mass vaccination program? Get a “conservative” to do it to them, thats how.
“Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America”
“The Biden Administration did a terrible disservice to people throughout the world by allowing the FDA and CDC to call a “pause” in the use of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine. The results of this vaccine have been extraordinary but now it’s reputation will be permanently challenged. The people who have already taken the vaccine will be up in arms, and perhaps all of this was done for politics or perhaps it’s the FDA’s love for Pfizer.”
WHEN IS ENOUGH, ENOUGH? How long did it take you all to come around to what Barr and Durham really is????
You’re out of your mind. TRUMP caused NOTHING. Deep State is the bad actor, not Trump.
6 out of 6 million and this happens? J&J clearly needs to start paying the “big guy” his cut …