There’s an 8’x 10′ white board visible to me at all times labeled “earworm?”, I cannot erase it yet because it forces me to remind myself to keep looking at data-points to discover the origin. Those who have followed CTH for years know these nagging issues stick with me, and I cannot let them go until they are reconciled.
That was the case with the 2012 election and Mitt Romney… how did that primary shape that way when Newt Gingrich was crushing the field until Florida.
It took two years, until I found the origin of the splitter strategy (2014 RNC winter convention) – and that made all the political data reconcile. This is an example of nagging stuff that balances history; because ultimately if we don’t know the accurate history -sometimes at a very granular level- we cannot prevent or avoid repeating mistakes in the future.
The COVID-19 narrative held four primary benefits. Without COVID weaponized we would not see:
- (1) Mail-in ballots. The origination material of the 2020 fraud.
- (2) Breaking down of alliance-minded gathering and assemblies. COVID blocked group gatherings to discuss what was around us and stopped us from recognizing the scale of our assembly. COVID also took down faith-based leadership and church assembly when it was needed most.
- (3) Spending packages that were really blue state bailouts justified under the auspices of COVID relief.
- (4) Government providing the crisis solution (and all the ramifications therein).
We also know in hindsight, the 2016 presidential transition team carried an unknown motive. Who was it that recommended: Dan Coats (ODNI), Michael Atkinson (ICIG), James Mattis (DoD), Dana Boente (NSD then FBI counsel). Who was the one steering these placements from inside the transition team?
Who was in charge of the transition team and also in charge of the COVID task force?
The role of the Koch brothers in using Mike Pence to undermine the Trump White House, in my opinion, cannot be overstated.
The Koch brothers were never-Trumpers. Pence was a Koch loyalist. President Trump needed the Koch money as his funding dried up.
Pence was nothing more than a fake Christian, narcissist hiding behind religion for credibility. People still love him. They don’t see through him. They prefer to judge on APPEARANCE rather than substance and his ACTIONS and making a proper righteous judgement call. Gee isn’t that in the drum roll Dreaded Bible too?
John.7:24
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Not only is it Scriptural but it is common sense and lots of examples in history of this eternal truism! You don’t have to be a “Bible thumper” to understand and see that! Never mind. Being a genuine Bible based Christian is not politically correct and deemed to be intolerant and evil.
Pence accepting the Governor elector slates instead of the objecting legislature slates would have gotten us back to what the Constitution demands, but he chose to go with the corrupt establishment.and only acknowledged the Governor slates. He gifted us Biden. He could have rightly swung the election to Trump and his rightful win and been totally Constitutional!
Pence was never on Trump’s side. He was helpful in securing the Evangelical vote after the stupid locker room talk came out on a video with a Bush guy and babysitting the Governors during the plandemic. Beyond that he was serving the establishment.
Mike Pence hired Marc Short when Trump was in Europe. Short hated Trump and had twitter wars with Trump. Short is a terminally ill Never Trumper and let it be known. Faux News LOVES Pence and will push him to run in 2024.
Former ‘Never Trump’ Koch Exec Marc Short Rejoins White House After Failed Legislative Affairs Record
By John Binder 2/19/19
Former “Never Trump” Koch brothers executive Marc Short, once President Trump’s White House Legislative Affairs Director, is now rejoining the administration as Vice President Mike Pence’s Chief of Staff after a brief stint as a CNN commentator.
On social media, Pence confirmed his intention to hire Short as his Chief of Staff:
Couldn’t agree more with your assessment of Pence. He is a smarmy weasel hiding behind fake religiosity.
If you watch Clapper’s testimony/interview, there are some shocking revelations about Mr. Pence. Watch your children!
What is happening with big tech? I am unable to access this site on my longtime search engine Qwant. Now, I must use Google. Same with other sites.
Using Brave with Gibiru search engine. Working fine.
Not Clapper, it was posted with Clapper’s stupid, ugly face by mistake. It’s actually the whistleblower who goes by Ryan Dark White, and @JohnHereToHelp on Twitter. Always very prescient.
Pence reminds me a lot of Pat Toomey, but not as outwardly smarmy.
Judas Pence, taken directly from Central Casting, led the White House Coronavirus Task Force.
Pence, the Never-Trumpers’ inside man, would look very good in high-vis orange…in solitary confinement for the rest of his earthly life.
Trump ain’t no dummy, how was he duped by these traitors?
Pence, the Never-Trumpers’ inside man, would look very good air-dancing on the end of a rope.
Fixed it for you, KaweahKid.
You should always select the least cost alternative.
Why did Trump allow this?! Why expect to trust either of them after? Ridiculous.
“The role of the Koch brothers using Mike Pence to undermine the Trump White House, in my opinion, cannot be overstated.” This is a true statement.
“President Trump needed the Koch money as his funding dried up.” This doesn’t seem to ring true. If President were having such a difficult time raising money, why does RNC still insist on using his name in fundraising? President Trump is the draw to send in hard earned dollars. Kochs may have diverted their funds elsewhere, but Trump didn’t need it.
If as points 2 & 3 claim, Trump needed the Koch brothers, but they didn’t back President Trump in 2020, how was President Trump able to get 74M+ votes without Koch support?
I apologize if I missed something obvious that you are referencing, but as of now, these latter claims don’t yet make sense to me.
Koch’s brothers were controlling Pence, Marc and Ryan.
Speculation
Koch’s brothers again, if you can’t control the Presidency directly, then influence its actions and responses.
Question, who were the Koch’s working for?
I feel like a low information voter, and Sundance’s posts just keep providing so much light about the corruption of DC and those that believe they want to be part of that cabal. So much appreciation of what this site provides. Thank you all.
SD’s analysis is both excellent and very depressing. Was never a Pence fan, but didn’t imagine him capable of this level of deception, perfidy, and mendacity…
Agree. I knew Pence had too much Swamp experience to be clean, but I could never catch him overtly saying something that undermined President Trump. Until after the stolen election….
Agree. He never did anything that would jeopardize the kill shot. He waited for the take down event. I feel certain PT knows far more about 30 Pence’s 1.6 actions. After all, PT was about one hour late for his speech which occurred when 30 was doing the deed. PT needs to tell all at some point in time.
Very interesting especially as we approach the betrayal of Our Saviour by Judas Iscariot for 30 Pence.
It is not too surprising really as Mr Pence abandoned his Catholic faith to embrace some sect. Once a traitor then it’s easier the second time.
History does repeat as our great Sundance often tells us.
Pence was a perfect snake in the grass, holding himself in check, hiding himself, as much as evil can hide, until the perfect moment for the perfect betrayal. I agree with you, it was not surprising.
I didn’t realize Pence was Catholic. They always say he locked in the evangelical Christian vote. But, he definitely abandoned his faith, and no matter what denomination he is, he gave faith in general a black eye.
GB, I remember watching Pence in the same room as Trump, Pelosi and Schumer. I’m no body language expert, but from what I could see, it looked like Pence was pained to be there. He certainly gave not the slightest indication of being a supporter of President Trump. From that moment on I was deeply suspicious of Pence, and he proved my wildest imaginings of his disloyalty correct. Damn him!
I got that exact same feeling at the early COVID updates when PDJT was there with Pence, Fauci and Birx. I felt that Pence was wincing when Trump talked. I get that same feeling when PDJT was around Noem at the July 4 fireworks at Mt. Rushmore. He likes her more than she likes him, for some reason, is what I saw, and he just endorsed her.
I feel the exact way about Noem. Most people jump at any conservative who supports our ideas but most let us down eventually. She did something (which I don’t recall what it was) that at the time made me suspicious of her. I don’t want to see her on any ticket. I’m Trump and/or DeSantis. No one else for me at the moment.
Traitors. Pence is the most despicable of all and still this turd will attempt to redeem himself. For some reason our Real President Trump has not hammered him all that much. Could he still have some value..even as a usefull idiot? IDK.
I have no civilized words for Pence.
Trump’s style is to keep things cordial with exceptions like Romney etc. that are constant in you face PIAs.
Theater, Hollywood for the ugly “rush Limbaugh”
They all play a part and do it quite well.
I assume whatever dislodges these people will be cataclysmic and more than likely destroy our country if not the civilized world.
As I age I see death more realistic, we all die. How or what you die for is something different.
Mediate on this: if you had millions or the whole world by the tail, would you be more or less inclined to sacrifice ‘ your life’ for others? Therein lies the dilemma.
Sacrifice always falls on the down trodden. Only….Jesus had it all and chose us.
Actually Trump went after him in his interview with the Lisa Boothe podcast .
Looking forward to hearing that.
How long did it take us to see through the TRUE Bush family?
The 1989, NWO ‘1000’ points of light speech was a BIG hint.
Inauguration speech.
There’s no value in hammering 30 Pence. His actions speak louder than any words PT could say. He’d come off stooping to his level. I do believe PT should publish what he knows about the 1.6 events re 30 Pence after his next term should he run in 2024.
Lin Wood has been saying that about Pence from day one. He says pence is a pedo just like roberts.
I have read that too. I wouldn’t be totally surprised if it was true. Those that over play the role, usually have the most to hide. Pence never struck me as genuine. Perhaps I have an advantage on that. We sent all our kids to a private Christian school…. after awhile it was easy to pick out the genuine Christians and the actors. Pence is an actor. We never liked or trusted him since day one.
Anyone who habitually maintains a poker face when talking is not to be trusted. With rare exceptions, Pence barely moves his lips when talking while the rest of his face remains immobile to avoid revealing his true feelings which would not match what he is saying.
I spent more time watching how he always stood behind President Trump and glared at the back of his head. That man was not to be trusted.
True true Churchmouse. I couldn’t really read Pence well. He impersonated a dullard and a Klutz, but underneath he was just Snake Evil all along. The worst kind because they hide it behind that wax face
To me this was the ultimate reveal:
If you read the Lin Wood transcript of his interview of the whistleblower, it definitely brings to light how Trump was setup with Pence, Rosenstein, etc back in January 2017.
yes I read that too.
Word is that Pence is positioning himself for a presidential run in 2024. The Republican Party might want to consider that most of us will never vote for traitor Pence in a presidential primary or general election.
Good God… Can they be any more dense?
It is shocking but a lot of people love the guy. They don’t see through him.
They are ignorant on what he did to our country and fooled by appearance and his phony majestic style.
It’s like he has some kind of a narcissistic, messiah complex.
All I can say to “Christians” taken in by him is:
Dust off that Bible and take is seriously.
John.7:24
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
I see Benedict Pence as a pharisee.
these shallow people that support someone like pence are the same ones that didn’t like Trump’s tweets.
how do you wake these people up?
Good analogy and those “shallow people” are shallow Christians just like 30 Pence.
“Whitewashed tombs…looking perfect on the outside, but inwardly you’re full of dead mens’ bones”…couldn’t be more true of this Schmendrick.
I dont know who you’re talking to who loves Pence?… nobody on any MAGA forums or comment boards that I read have anything good to say about this traitor after he threw Trump under the bus in January.
I think you’re mistaken on any popularity you think he has. It would only be with the anti-Trump crowd.
Visit BB or Faux News comments.
I’m sure someone here will also pop up and defend Pence.
Just wait and see.
Sounds like bots. Companies often AstroTurf comment sections to push their agenda. They did the same with Romney in 2015, and received heavy pushback.
Not dense. Brazen.
Yes they could be more dense. I’m still sick to my stomach from this fraudulent, stolen election. I knew the Replubicants did all they could to fight against PDJT for four years,but to do absolutely nothing about the fraud is just a bitch slap to their base. I posted before that I thought Pence was a snake and a leaker right from the start. If it wasn’t Pence, I suspected Kelly Ann Conway because DJT couldn’t have or wouldn’t have made all those back stabbing cabinet and staffing picks he got shafted with. He was the outsider that needed help and they didn’t do anything to help. I truly wish for karma on all the Replubicants. I expected the dumbocrats to hinder, not my own party.
Pence will run & he will choose Nimrata as his running mate. She will see this as an opportunity to run for President in the future.
Never forget: Pence was the the person responsible for ousting General Mike Flynn.
He was planning a Pence-Ryan ticket when President Trump was removed from office for “colluding with Russia.”
He voted to certify the faulty electoral votes, thus ending the legal pursuit of the free & fair election.
Mike Pence is THE TRAITOR to the American people who voted for President Trump.
No apology from Pence to Mike Flynn either….Pence sickens me and damages genuine Christianity.
A man can’t boink young men and call himself a Christian. The two are not compatible. Just saying.
You’re tuned in. Pence makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. The hairs are never wrong.
I’ve said this from the beginning; not just after he blatantly shafted Donald Trump.
How ironic that the whole election came down to what Pence would do on Jan 6th. Who could have predicted that turn of events or who could have maneuvered the whole thing to very neatly land in Pence’s lap enabling him to do what he did? It’s just such an impossible coincidence that it ended up the way it did.
IMO he killed his political career but then who really knows anymore. He could be ‘the man’ in 2024 for the new, improved, republican party which will be the same as the old republican party. At least half of it will be.
Trump is a genius in how he gets crooks to remove their masks.
Not buying it Cjzak, that kind of deep dark Evil doesn’t happen by chance. Self-righteous smug Nation-killer Traitor Pence. (The “T” in Traitor Pence should always be capitalized because it’s part of his true name.)
If Ryan runs we know the Republicans are rigging the election. The voters in Wisconsin can’t stand him, he burned those bridges in 2016.
Why worry about our votes when you have “dominion” over the election process?
Counting on “dominion” might back fire.
This is probably what they want. They would rather have CCP back in office than have Trump.
Of course.
And the sooner folks wake up to that fact
the sooner we mobilize to get our Republic back.
His mismanagement of tge COVID taskforce alone should be enough to sink him.
Paul Ashley,
I think I recall he was also “in charge” of “rooting out VOTER FRAUD”??!!
It doesn’t matter. Our votes don’t count anymore. They’ve figured out how to defraud any election to serve their goals. Why would any of us believe the next election will be any more honest than this one was?
The GOP establishment believes if you are given a choice of Pence or Kamala Harris (backed by Pelosi and Schumer) to deliver a far left anti-America agenda you will hold your nose and vote for Pence. Or even Mitch McConnell himself.
I’m not sure that voting in fed elections isn’t a waste of time anymore, but Hell would freeze over and the NHL would be televising playoff games live from there before I would vote for Pence for dog catcher. I’d pay good money to see him punched in the mouth, though. Judas Pence, despicable traitor.
So… we know Mike Pence was the mole. But beyond that, what’s the data point that needs clearing up?
Who was behind Pence being selected as VP?
I believe at this point it’s best to assume that every politician and judge is (or will be if recently elected/appointed) compromised.
Just think about those three spineless good for nothing Supreme Court Justices. Spit
LETS WORK TO GET GREG PENCE OUT OF THE HOUSE. We can rid Congress of the other Pence at least. Come on Indiana Treepers!! IMO Karen Pence was always the TELL, she looked like she loathed both Donald and Melania from day one. Always had that just ate a bad shrimp resting b#tch face going.
I too have posted that very comment many times about Karen. Her hateful body language told the whole story. She was complicit in this plan. Mrs 30 Pence, for sure.
Only tangentially related, but I read that Melania is absolutely over being in DC. If she never sees that place again it will be too soon. That woman had a tough row to hoe to get to be a world-class model, and that whole modeling world is jam-packed full of liars, shysters and con men who love to prey on foolish young women. Any woman who doesn’t learn to size the sleazeballs up quickly doesn’t last long and certainly won’t reach the top of the profession. Melania did. I bet she had the Pences pegged as untrustworthy from day one.
Sundance…sadly all roads lead to Rome. Lincoln’s comments in the book “Fifty Years in the Church of Rome” was a real eye opener. Same intrigue.
That 8 x 10 data board sounds more like a bulls eye. Mine is similar but circling the drain
Lisa Boothe has a great interview with President Trump. It is on the “The Truth with Lisa Boothe.” He said, “It is too bad that Mike Pence didn’t go back. He could have said, ‘I’m sorry. This wasn’t approved by the state legislatures and according to the Constitution, it has to be. ‘ Mike Pence could have sent it back.”
I also think it is interesting that President Trump calls him “Mike Pence” which is very formal and distant sounding and detached!
No idea what was in those envelopes, but Pence got one also.
and Joe Biden.
A voucher for thirty pieces of silver.
I saw that too and noticed how Pence was warmly welcomed and Trump and Melania go the ice treatment and they went silent. I miss President Trump and his wife as our First Lady.
$20 Voucher for Starbucks
Hahaha SD, haven’t seen that photo in long time ?
The moment Pence stabbed Trump (US) in the back, I knew he was the “bad apple” that had been providing Trump with scumbags in his cabinet. The economic ruin and death and destruction this *****rd has wrought CANNOT be understated. This POS should be put in front of a firing squad for the ruination he was brought to this country and its people.
This… (Pence lands at Heritage Foundation)
https://www.heritage.org/press/vice-president-mike-pence-joins-heritage-foundation-distinguished-visiting-fellow
Then this…(Heritage President and Vice President announce they are resigning)
https://www.heritage.org/press/heritage-foundation-president-executive-vice-president-announce-resignations
Pence now has a vehicle.
I saw that and was sickened. I used to think Heritage Foundation was a great organization to support. No more. On a side note, I USED to listen to Hugh Hewitt on the radio, who literally suggested the Covid Task Force line-up. Hmmmmm…..another Uniparty Never-Trumper?
Could the fallout from Pence joining Heritage triggered the resignation? They may have finally come to a realization that not only have they stepped in a large pile of schiff, they have churned it into a frothy head. It smells even worse and the only folks that will buy it as chocolate mousse are swamp critters. I would say when an org starts taking the time to respond to push back from targets for small donations, something is up.
Should be Disgusting Visiting Fellow
Remember Conquest’s Third Law of Politics. It is almost certainly applicable here.
Snake in the grass. Not to say I told you so, but….
The naivety of Normals, here and across the country, was breath-taking. As Pence slimed his neocon way through issue after issue, four years of back-stabbing, lying, dissembling, and living for MIGA, delivering results for his hostile foreign sponsors, Normal Americans gazed admiringly and pronounced Pence “a sterling human being, and a good Christian, trust the plan.”
Yeah, how’d that work out for us? Sorta like Jimmy Swaggart’s promises of paradise?
Neocon-men. They’ll sell America down the river for any advantage gained for their foreign sponsors.
They ain’t gonna change. Might want to switch the MIGA for MAGA. It’s the neocon-men that are the 5th column, eating away at “conservative” principles.
So maybe Pence or someone in his gang is Q? I was hearing last night how it was a psyop all along. I never paid much attention to the Q narrative but it got a lot of people to relax and trust the plan as you say.
Wow Sundance…
..you got me thinking..
Koch got their money from BETs.More illegals the better. s/
You mean, you all just figured out Pence is dirty?
LOL.
Pence was President Trump’s version of Ronald Reagan’s George Bush.
Plenty of warning signs too, not just screwing General Flynn.
Didn’t Pence screw up the early attempts at election reform in 2017 too?
Proof! Pence, Short and Ryan all worked for the Koch Brothers.
Marc Short Pence Chief of Staff prevented Jan 6 Electoral College recount, Peter Navarro interview, “Not a good guy” tool of the Koch Brothers
Posted on February 20, 2021 | 2 Comments
Marc Short Pence Chief of Staff prevented Jan 6 Electoral College recount, Peter Navarro interview, “Not a good guy” tool of the Koch Brothers
“I have turned over whistleblower evidence to the United States Secret Service related to Former Vice-President Mike Pence and other high-ranking government officials.”…Attorney Lin Wood affidavit
“Former Vice President Mike Pence or Rod Rosenstein have not sent retraction demands or claims that my posts of and concerning them are false and defamatory.”…Attorney Lin Wood affidavit
“I have credible evidence to support the truth of my description of Former Vice President Pence as a traitor.”…Attorney Lin Wood affidavit
Link to Article
This makes it really clear the power and degree that the Bureaucracy of the Washington establishment will go to so they can continue their contempt for the working class and the destruction of the middle class. Pence was weak. The weak link in the Presidential circle. We all knew it. Mr. Clean. Well, when no one is attacking someone in the Trump Cabinet, ever, you have to know this is the person they have in their pocket. No one forgets betrayal. EVER
Pence is ‘the mole.’
You nailed it again SD.
I’ve always believed that the fact is, Pence did an absolutely horrendous job with the covid task force. The messaging was a muddled disaster. The presentations were disorganized. Scarf Ladies’ graphs were a 7th-grade embarrassment. There were too many people trotted out, with no unity of message or purpose.
Worst of all, Pence allowed “15 days to slow the spread” WITHOUT SPECIFYING WHAT THE SUCCESS CRITERIA WERE. This is Project Management 1 (not 101).
Boom
Sundance scapegoating Pence is just plain wrong.
Pence can be criticized, but to think Pence deliberately sabotaged Trump is just goofy. If Pence had wanted to do that he could have stopped Trump from winning in 2016 just by dropping off the ticket when Trump was blasted for the infamous Grab them by the… tape. Face it, both Trump and Pence were up against many people with their own agendas. More often than not, Pence was solidly behind Trump. Did Pence give bad advice? Sure, and so did Trump. And yes both were influenced and hurt by Wuhan virus bureaucrats and other entrenched political operatives.
Stop looking for scapecoats. No one is perfect and certainly no politician is even close. Today: “Trump named Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R); Sens. Josh Hawley (R-MO), Ted Cruz (R-TX), and Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY); his former press secretary Sarah Sanders, who is running for governor in Arkansas; and South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) when asked by Boothe about Republicans he thought were the future of the party.”
pence could of dropped of the ticket and PDJT still won.
I would like to agree with you, but cannot. Originally had some confidence in Pence given his effort years back to run against Boehner when he was in the House.
My initial support was deeply shaken both by the Dan Coats appointment who turned out to be a total snake in the weeds (Pence should have known better – Indiana politics and all that), and by the developments surrounding Michael Flynn who Pence backstabbed. While not completely definitive, the antennas were up and very suspicious.
Then, there was the complete failure to stand against the fraud. At that point, it is almost irrelevant whether he is a snake or simply a pencilneck weak wimp. In either case, he will not stand in the storm and defend the good and true. This failure is similar to his folding on the religious freedom issue when governor of Indiana – the results of the Memories pizza controversy.
In short, do not trust him and it does not matter anyway as he is too spineless to get the job done in any case.
Pence sold our Republic to the commis January 6 , 2021.
There is no refuting that fact.
It is plain as daylight.
Had Pence dropped off the ticket he’d have cancelled his own future chance to run for president. He had no chance on his own merits; only as the outgoing VP to a popular president.
Mike Pence was and is all about Mike Pence. No way he’s have made it harder for Trump to win in ’16.
Karl, is that you?
I was in Wisconsin in 2016 when that tape broke. Pence was lukewarm for a few days, skipped an event. Ryan actively tried to take Trump out. Then Trump showed up in WI and we showed the world that we wouldn’t back down. That’s when Pence got back on the campaign trail.
I never trusted Pence, but I figured he was assassination insurance since the left hates him. But Pence was never a huge supporter of MAGA, he went through the motions and that is all.
Perhaps Pence wanted to be on the ticket because he thought he could plot and plan to impeach or otherwise weaken President Trump and become president himself. His very good friend Paul Ryan would be vice president. My thinking is that was the goal from the beginning.
I agree. They thought they could get rid of him during his term. Pence wanted it. But PDJT was so successful and popular, and squeaky clean, they couldn’t.
Sometimes I wish I could down vote in CTH.
Me too!
Sorry, Chief. You’re wrong here and Sundance is right.
one thing that it seems safe to say is that it is harder to find someone who honestly was trying to help Trump than it would be to find someone who was actively sabotaging the President.
American politicians are compromised from child trafficking & black mail.
I like the ambiance of that board.
Pence is as deep state as they come. He was a driving force behind hiring Barr as AG. And Pence’s [then] WH chief of staff had to resign after being accused of being an FBI spy.
In 2019, Barr said in written responses to Senate questions that he and Pence had occasional conversations starting in 2017 which included “general discussion of the Special Counsel’s [Mueller] investigation in which I gave my views on such matters as Bob Mueller’s high integrity and various media reports.” https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-ag-pick-barr-says-hes-discussed-mueller-probe-with-pence
Barr’s appointment as attorney general was effective starting in February 2019. So Pence communicated with Barr long before Barr wrote a lengthy memo in June 2018 defending POTUS for firing Comey, then heavily publicized it which ultimately ended with Trump selecting Barr as Attorney General. https://www.aclu.org/blog/civil-liberties/executive-branch/william-barrs-unsolicited-memo-trump-about-obstruction-justice
Pence’s (former) White House chief of staff, Joshua Pitcock, resigned in June 2017 after he was accused of being a spy for the FBI. Pitcock’s wife worked for Peter Strzok at the time, and the Page/Strozk texts showed that Strzok had a significant contact within the White House [ostensibly Pence].
Per Pitcock’s Wikipedia page, Pitcock had served as an aide to Pence during Pence’s time in the United States House of Representatives, and Pitcock eventually became Pence’s chief of staff there. After Pence was elected governor of Indiana in 2012, Pitcock stayed in Washington, D.C. during Pence’s governorship, serving as the state’s lobbyist. Pitcock served as a senior policy adviser to Pence throughout the campaign and the transition until Pitcock resigned [as VP Pence’s White House chief of staff after being accused of being an FBI spy].
Pence has very deep ties to the FBI, which explains a lot…
Yep right again SD.
Pence had me fooled but Pence is the worst kind of backstabbing traitor. Pence cloaks himself like a holy man but in reality is satan.
Remember, the Bible says that Satan comes as an angel of light.
That would be Mike Pence.
Pence set up PDJT and did a good job doing so.
Time for a 3rd party.
The RNC and GOP are beyond saving.
AMERICA FIRST………………..its almost our last chance.
Note this is more than one-hour long video with focus on Pence and John Roberts. The interest here for me, is the blackmail potential. So can we now add the Koch Brothers and Marc Short?
Tru News’ Rick Wiles and a panel discuss these shocking developments in this video.
Link to Article
I have a fck’n nagging data point on my squeegee board..
how can a businessman who has garnered such wealth and notoriety..
..not know when he was being bullshitted..
I mean.. he’s from New York right..
wtf..
I wonder about this too. I have read that Trump had his own “intelligence group” long before he ran and because he moved in the D.C. and New York circles he knew everything about everybody. It doesn’t add up.
It really makes one wonder…
Controlled opposition?
Bet he did know.
In May 2017, Pence filed FEC paperwork to form Great AmericaCommittee, a political action committee (PAC) that would be headed byhis former campaign staffers Koch brothers’ Nick Ayers and Marty Obst.
Pence is the only vice president to have started his own PAC only sixmonths after taking office. See Open Secrets for who received funds.
Pence closest friends in the House were Jeff Flake andPaul Ryan.
Congressman Louie Gohmert revealed that Ryan had encouraged GOPHouse members to campaign against President Trump in 2016. Watchthis 90 second video with Congressman Gohmert. Now we find out thatRyan and his Chief of Staff John Burks were both involved in pushingthe fake Steele Russian dossier.
Trump’s two top establishment globalists, Pence and Priebussupported getting rid of Lt. General Mike Flynn after they claimedhe misled his colleagues about conversations with the Russianambassador. The willingness to throw Flynn under the bus was planned and executed by the Deep State.
In 2017 Trump put Pence in charge of voter fraud. How did that work out?
Don’t forget Trump’s personal physician Dr. Ronnie Jackson. Dr. Jackson was Trump’s personal physician, but Mike Pence’s physician raised concerns about Jackson because his physician had some heated interactions with Dr. Jackson.
There is so much more here on the traitor Pence.
Read all three of Kelleigh Nelson posts here:
https://newswithviews.com/judas-mike-pence-joins-aaron-burr-and-benedict-arnold-part-one/
https://newswithviews.com/mike-pence-water-boy-for-the-deep-state-part-two/
https://newswithviews.com/satans-minions-the-financiers-of-michael-r-pence-part-3/
Pence was an impeccable choice from a mainstream Republican point of view. That he turned out to be a terrible choice has to be filed in that increasingly bloated file: it’s difficult to be President of the United States without a political party supporting you.
Trump was trying to execute a hostile takeover of the Republican Party and use it to accomplish goals that it rejected, namely, 1) repatriating manufacturing by imposing tariffs and renegotiating trade deals, 2) closing the border, and 3) ending stupid foreign wars. Again, the Republican party is viscerally opposed to these three main elements of Trumpism, because its donors and money men oppose them. By surrounding himself with Republicans, Trump was bound to make numerous mistakes in staffing ranging from stupid to catastrophic to suicidal, and that is exactly what happened. There is every prospect that the exact same thing will happene again should he run and win in 2024.
David most of this is excellent and way beyond what most people see. ‘Hostile takeover’ is exactly the right metaphor and the issues Trump faced and largely lost on are typical of that situation: When the insiders from the old regime can neither be brought to heel nor fired, a hostile takeover is likely to be a failure.
I disagree about 2024, though. Trump’s no fool and he fully learned the lessons of 2017-2021. Should he win again in ’24 I think he’ll swing a broad sword on day one, slaying enemies and making the half-hearted fear him.
’24s a very long time off right now, and our first job is to get there.
I like Walt’s thinking
Earlier this month I emailed this to Mike Pence on the Heritage Foundation website:
“Please forward this to Mike Pence:
Instead of saving America on January 6, 2021, Mr. Pence, you ensured its destruction by betraying President Trump, his 75M+ supporters and all Americans! I put my faith in God and you that you would do the right thing, but you failed and chose evil over good!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/republicans-slept-democrats-stole-2020-election-like-communists-now-locking-steal-ages/
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I encourage you to send your own displeasure/disgust to Pence via the Heritage Foundation!
I already sent my disparaging, hostile, and brutal message to Pence shortly after Jan. 6 – no words minced.
I don’t blame pence for his actions. The amount of pressure the swamp can bring on someone is so immense that a very few can withstand it. This is why trump is so special. He is one of a tiny handful that are capable of standing up to it.
Pence could have prevented the DESTRUCTION of our country which is rapidly unfolding before our very eyes! Please…. no excuses for him! When the New World Government has taken control of the U.S. … and their is no possibility of getting it back, please remember your defence of TRAITOR Pence!
I agree – no excuse is acceptable. He took the same oath President Trump did, right?
So one must ask would you sell your country and your soul to save your family and your reputation or possibly even your life (I am sure treason charges could have been filed).
Perhaps a hard answer for some, my family knows what i would do. The future is more prescious then the present. I would expect them to hunker down, run, then fight in that order.
Pence will burn in hell. In my dreams, I can hear the sweet clarion call of his screems as i sleep. I hope i am clarvoint. All glory to God none to men.
I do. Anyone who has the kind of past he has should never have been a candidate for high office in the first place. If you’re a pedophile in those circles, you know damned well that the Swamp has or will get that information and use it to play you like a fiddle. You don’t play, the truth comes out. Pence was dirty and President Trump’s enemies had that knowledge. They made fullest use of it.
Remember COVID served two purposes…get rid of orange man and kick off the Great Reset. The elites have been talking about doing everything that happened over the last year in white papers and the like since the 1970s. Pre MAGA, Pence was a fairly typical 1990s, neo-con, Chamber of Commerce type of guy. He’s a former disc jockey, talk radio fill in host who never struck it big until he managed to get elected to Congress and then governor. He supported amnesty and TPP. If you’re looking for his actual puppet masters, I’d look at his early forays into politics: who were his mentors, big donors, consultants etc. Party Politics is very tribal – who his original political consultants were will tell you a lot.
So many replies to this post that I agree with I’d be here all night if I replied. Thank you Sundance for this post.
I tend to have a “problem” with Pence as it seems he never changes his clothes. And rarely if ever smiles. About anything. I never understood why President Trump “decided” why Pence would be his “running mate.” Anti-abortion?
Pence’s Control File (eg all the personal things he has done) must be so thick and full of such gross out stories , that he actually sold out America to protect himself from being revealed.
Gawd, someone find a video of Pence “pumping his iron, ” or the means and methods by which he gets his miracle drug “Andenochrome.” If you know better about Pence let me know.
BINGO !…SD connects dots .. once again ..right on the money…IMHO..the China virus was NOT an “accident”…????
Pence and Haley is the McCain and Romney of the Bush and Cheney. Designated losers.
Even with election fraud , even Satan would not reward Pence and Haley. Satan knows when tools are no longer useful for his agenda.
Remember how quiet Pence initially was during the “grab em” chaos in 2016? His silence and lack of defense of Trump spoke volumes to me back then.
This article posted by Sundance forgot to mention just how many of Pence’s staffers immediately went to the media to spout their unhinged anti-Trump rants and I believe some of Pence’s staffers even testified against President Trump in his impeachment trials!
It is not just Pence’s treachery that needs to be outed but his staffers as well!
Pretty sure they did what he wanted them to do.
“Trillions of dollars are at stake” is a common refrain on CTH regarding uniparty and globalist motivations. US reaction to the Chinese Cooties blows out a few trillion in a year. We might as well start saying “quadrillions are at stake” at this rate.
God, what a truly sickening picture……….I vomited in my own mouth. Such scum. Complete Scum.
I am deeply humbled and honored to be here. I pray every day for the strength to support this President… oh wait you mean he was full of ship the whole time?! Of course he was.
Somehow I missed this Vanity Fair article dated Jan. 22.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/embedding-with-pentagon-leadership-in-trumps-chaotic-last-week
The author was embedded with then acting Sec. of Defense in the last days of PDJT’s administration. The author had free access to Chris Miller and his deputies. He talked to those individuals we all thought were having PDJT’s back at the time: Miller, Patel, Cohen-Watnick. Lots of details from Jan. 5 to Jan. 20. Pence’s role was also mentioned. All of these individuals featured in the article were backstabbers.
These accounts are consistent with what we later heard directly from Miller at his interview with “VICE”. I have no reason to not believe what was described in the article. PDJT/We the People never had a chance. That is a reality check.
From the article:
“Ezra Cohen, another of Miller’s top confidants, believes that his colleagues’ words and deeds may be well and good, but are beside the point: “The president threw us under the bus. And when I say ‘us,’ I don’t mean only us political appointees or only us Republicans. He threw America under the bus. He caused a lot of damage to the fabric of this country. Did he go and storm the Capitol himself? No. But he, I believe, had an opportunity to tamp things down and he chose not to. And that’s really the fatal flaw. I mean, he’s in charge. And when you’re in charge, you’re responsible for what goes wrong.”
To use the now-familiar aphorism: “No plan survives contact with the enemy”.
In PDJT’s case, “no plan survives working with the Republicans”. Or “…Jared Kushner”.
I am sorry but at some point Trump has to take personal responsibility…who exactly chose Mike Pence as his Veep, leader of the transition team, leader of the Covid task force, lead negotiator with the Hill etc etc ?
Either Trump wasn’t good at judging people he employed or these choices were forced on him.The only other option is that Trump knew Pence was a back stabber and did nothing about it.
I am not a never Trumper and badly wanted and still want him to succeed. That however is possible only when Trump realises that he made a lot of terrible decisions with personnel..his Cabinet was full of back stabbers and swamp vipers.
How and why did this happen ?
Another data point in relation to Pence is the fact that he received a ‘special’ envelope in his Order of Service booklet at the Bush 41 funeral.
I suspect PDJT (and inner circle allies) knew where Pence stood from early on. Some, like NaSa above, wonder why PDJT made such terrible personnel choices. I beg to differ in that, whether or not he suspected these people of crooked characters, Trump knew that if they were to attempt to thwart his administration then they would expose themselves to the world. In the meantime they can be used to fulfill a role. And, after all, he is but one man and needs to operate within a well established system (and also won’t be able to stop placement of every sleeper). In this way, we the people get a full view of any swamp creatures and can remove as many as possible in a relatively short period of time. Combine this process with active recruitment of MAGA into all areas of public life and you are able to effect rapid change to counter the communist/globalist infiltration that has been going on for decades.