President Donald J Trump has taken the reigns on the monetary side of the MAGA movement in a shift that will draw a distinction between the RNC and the priorities of the MAGA movement. President Trump is starting his own Political Action Committee.
While President Trump has affirmed he will not initiate a third political party, he is taking a strategic third party financial approach with the initiation of SAVE AMERICA PAC.
Visit Donald J Trump – Save America PAC Here
For those who want a third party option, this approach is even smarter. Essentially, if people use the PAC instead of the RNC contribution President Trump will control the cash. This positions President Trump to determine which political candidates will be endorsed, supported and ultimately funded…. including primary challengers.
The PAC will operate to push the MAGA agenda, and easily be a workaround for the RNC rules against funding primary opponents. Third party funding to take over the GOP!
I went to the website and it re-directed me to “winred”, which is the republicrat website. I’ll wait until it’s fixed. And if it keeps going to “winred”, I won’t give a dime.
me too, it went to win red. I will not donate to the RNC.
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Can anyone get a message to Don Jr ?
Sundance? Anyone?
Via email,twitter, gab, any other twitter-alike … whatever
From what I’ve seen, I think Don Jr would bird-dog these concerns
Tell him people are reluctant to contribute unless they can see clearly and explicitly that donations will be used ONLY for MAGA / America First purposes and candidates.
That contributors have been burned by winred and GOP and aren’t willing to contribute unless they can clearly see Donald J Trump / MAGA / America First as the sole recipient
It must be clear and unequivocal and backed by Donald J Trump and bird-dogged and vetted by Don Jr
If anyone can get that message to him, please invite him to design a half-page advert or flyer documenting all of the above and vouching for it personaly and listing proper contribution links
I think Don Jr would take on the task if presented to him
ps – I’ve read Jvlovesk’s comment below and I see Winred’s explanation at the link
BUT – I’d trust it more if I saw Don Jr’s photo on it and his attestation that he’s personally vetted the procedures and is assured that donations will go 100%, 95%, whatever to MAGA / America First interests and candidates endorsed by President Trump
That would be enough for me and I think for many others
Like I said, make Don Jr aware of contributor hesitancy and let him run it to ground
pass the link to this very discussion on to Don, tell him to read the first page of comments
“https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/02/28/strategic-and-smart-president-trump-begins-save-america-pac/”
(remove quotes)
Losing potential money should get someone’s attention?
Was all set to donate to the pretty young Kinzinger challenger, until the donation page went to ‘winred’. I stopped right there. Closed the checkbook.
I imagine there are legal reasons, for the avoidance of fraud accusations, but checkbook remains closed to winred.
You go girl!
nimrodman, thanks, that’s my concern. I will contribute as much as I can to Donald J. Trump, but only to him.
Not for us. Nothing about WinRed came up when we donated last night or this morning.
It’s powered by winred, not going to the RNC. Go read it again.
Agreed. I am not sure why he is using WinRed to collect the contact info and payment.
Y’all do what you want but I’ll not give the GOPE another red cent. Trump doesn’t control the establishment money. I’ll contribute to Trump for the win but the establishment can kiss my a**.
I hesitated too but Winred only processes the payments. The money goes 90% to Make America Great pac and 10% to maga pac.
Someone posted this link earlier. It explains how it works. https://donors.winred.com/en/articles/3773571-where-does-my-donation-go
Under the RNC my elderly mother made a one time donation That she was told would be significantly multiplied by a generous donor. Instead they multiplied her amount and marked it a continuing monthly donation. She had to cancel the credit card to resolve the problem. I hope this does not happen to others because like many of you I only want it to go to President Trump and those he vets as MAGA. No surprises please.
You can log on ot your account and delete the monthly subscription (payment) if you mistakenly didn’t uncheck the box that activates the reoccurring payment.
That “auto monthly payment unless you uncheck a box” scam is reprehensible. And it’s designed to entrap people who are naive about such things. Like many of the elderly.
Scarlett, they should make it patently obvious you are asking to make a recurring donation. Having to uncheck a box is scam-type behavior and should be stopped. I just happened to catch it last year, but still disgusted to find out I contributed to the gop.
I donated to Barbara Bush’s library/reading foundation. They magnified the donation, 10 times. Never again. 25 dollars morphed into 250. Never again. Left a very bad taste…as I liked her, not her husband or son.
What about her father, Allister Crowley
During the last election I neglected to notice that the check for a continuing donation was not deleted. When I received an email about the donation I simply corrected the mistake via that email and they deleted that function. It was really easy to do.
I think the problem many people have, winred or not, is that this new pac makes it clear they are not affiliated with any particular candidate.
I think what people are looking for is not KNOW exactly what candidates will be receiving this money.
I think people realize from experience and failures of the GOP/RNC and the many pacs that support them, has produced a fleet of candidates who do not act or vote or represents the kinds of changes and values that citizen patriots are longing for.
I am not surprised on bit people are skeptcal.
it’s writing a check on some unknown result.
I think folks want some guarantees that their hard earned bucks are not going to be used against them..
again!
I am holding back on this, unless someone can explain what makes this any different that any other pac!
Thank you for saying this! My husband and I are retired and on a fixed income…we are very cautious with money that we give to political campaigns or ministries, because we have been burned by both in the past! I don’t know all of the ins and outs of assembling a network to accept donations but I have heard more than enough negative stories about WinRed to be very hesitant to give them ANY of my info!! I do not want one dime to go to the RNC, so at this point, I will wait until we have clarification as to how this PAC has been set-up!
You are 100% correct
Thanks for the clarification. I saw that this afternoon and hesitated but went ahead on gut/ faith.
What is Maga Pac? Who controls it?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/
Went to 45 without a hitch.
Better check again. The redirect goes to “ https://secure.winred.com/save-america
You have made your point repeatedly, as insignificant as it is. Jvlovesk it above has explained it correctly. So the only reason you continue to beat your dead horse is to hurt PDJT.
We dont do that at the Treehouse.
Funny how these little whiners come out of the woodwork and find endless things to pick pick pick on Pres Trump about isn’t it Albertus.
Pres Trump gives an amazing speech and asks us specifically to do one thing.
Only one thing.
And before he asks us to do this he apologizes a little, saying that he has never done this before be he feels that he must because of the situation our country is in.
So he go ahead and does this thing, asks us to donate to his new PAC.
He asks very nicely and politely.
And what do some of the whiney fussbudgets posting here at the Treehouse do but pick endlessly at what he has politely and courteously asked.
The do not like the winred, the do not like the possibility ( no evidence of this happening and since PT really hates the GOP I think he would prevent this from happening) but JUST in case it might happen they will not donate.
They do not like it that they do not know right now exactly where each and every dollar that they are giving is going and to who.
And on and on and on and on they go finding fault with this ONE thing that Pres Trump has asked of us.
As you say Albertus Magnus they seem to think that we want to hear their insignificant picky picky whining.
Or as you say perhaps they are trying to hurt PDJT, it is very tiring and no we do not do that at the Treehouse.
I am familiar with some of the posters like Petzmom and vikingmom who are longtime respectable treepers who probably have serious questions but there seems to be a lot of new posters here lately.
This always happens here on positive news days !
ColoradoChoe, ok, I took a chance and donated, thought I would never get off the site with all the options. I don’t trust Winred, I know you were able to donate directly to Trump in the first campaign.
For the reelection contributions, I think I was donating to the gop. I’ll see how this one goes, but I would like more information before I donate again.
yes it does.
and i read their info about the candidate getting all the donations, but I noticed in the past when I was giving $15 to Stefanik or Nunes that I would get an email from them thanking me for the $7.
I want to donate to Trump, not Ronna Romney-McConnel
Amen.
Not 100% sure but by law if anything is going to the RNC they have to disclose in wriring. I say this because as the RNC is trying to fund raise off of DJT’s name I get many text donation requests daily from the RNC. All of the texts I receive have a statement that “Your contribution will benefit the RNC”. If you see that statement and do not want to give to the RNC, don’t donate.
However, with that said, donaldtrump.com and saveamericaPAC need to make that clear and in my opinion there should not be a pass through.. I have no intention of donating to the RNC but will donate to Trump. They are only hurting themselves by making the RNC as a pass through. I would expect a PAC to be able to take donations directly. Hopefully Sundance will clear this up in the near fututre
Yep! I am anxious to support but not through winred. Hope they figure this out.
ridiculous…
Damn! We contributed directly after the speech and I just checked our account and it read “Pre auth WINRED* SAVE AMERI LOC: ARLINGTON VA”
this pisses me off!!
Found in the bin… 🙁
you are not only one..no $ for rinos dummies….
I would like to see Pence’s name removed too.
Oh great. Thanks for pointing that out. I was just about to go to Trump’s PAC site after reading this article. WTH?!
Me too! I deleted my winred account after the GOP stabbed us in the back and refuse to donate a penny through them.
WINRED = GOP establishment. You can tell me until you are blue in the face that President Trump’s PAC gets 100%. GOPe still collecting your info. After reading the comments here, someone needs to tell the Trump PAC to divorce itself from WINRED.
That’s where DJT said to go so I did. Period.
We donated last night, nothing about “winred”… nor this morning.
Agreed! No $$ To GOP
Stop. Winred is the payment processing platform.
The money goes into the Trump PAC; not the GOP PAC; not the RNC PAC; not the Republican Senate PAC.
IT GOES TO THE TRUMP PAC !
Ugly Cuss, I sure hope so, because I just donated.
I read the small print on the America First PAC and MAGA PAC and the RNC are not affiliated. I suppose the RNC might get a piece of the win.red’s processing fee.
Worked for me
“Democrats, the media and the radicals that want to turn America into a socialist fascist country.”
Are your ears burning, Mitch? Your days in leadership are numbered and you will never have tranquility in public. What a way to end a long career, you have turned your once proud state of Kentucky into a national laughingstock and, far worse, you have sabotaged and backstabbed the greatest United States President in history. Traitor Turtle.
The ending is classic Trump :
” Get rid of ’em all”
He has my trust. No one else exists. You tell me what you want me to do – I will do it.
And if I needed confirmation that today was a grand slam I only have to look and see how they are maligning him.
It is hilarious actually…
“While President Trump has affirmed he will not initiate a third political party, he is taking a strategic third party financial approach with the initiation of SAVE AMERICA PAC.”
There are two kinds of spurs, my friend. Those that come in by the door; those that come in by the window.
LMAO.
Never gets old. Just watched that movie a couple of weeks ago. Suggest checking out the extended version of Medicine Show by Big Audio Dynamite if you have not heard it.
Here is the gist of it,
Tuco is wanted in over 15 states and his crimes ranges from burglary to rape to murder. In the beginning of the movie, Blonde (The Good) and Tuco seemingly cooperate with each other but Blonde then betrays Tuco and claims his bounty and later abandons him in the desert, Tuco retaliates by robbing a gun store with the intentions of holding Blonde hostage.
Tuco finds Blonde and sentences him to suffer in the desert just as Tuco did but after hours of walking Blonde comes across a dying soldier who tells him the location of a hidden treasure ($200,000 in gold to be exact). Tuco’s greed takes over and he does everything to keep Blonde alive and he ends up with him at a church where Tuco also meets his brother Pablo who is also a priest and caretaker of the wounded soldiers inside the church. Tuco has an argument with him over his decision to become a priest and they get into a physical fight, so he leaves.
The duo then sets off to find the treasure disguised as confederate soldiers only to get captured by a band of passing union soldiers! They are brought to a concentration camp where Tuco meets “Angel Eyes” who precedes to torture him and forcing him to reveal the location of the treasure, he doesn’t know the location but tells “Angel Eyes” that Blondie knows where it is! Tuco later gets put on a train which is headed to a far off town where he is to be hanged, but manages to escape and kill his guard (thus getting even for the beating, too).
After heading into town, he decides to take a bath, where he finds one of the bounty hunters who had been tracking him down. Surprised, then annoyed, Tuco kills the man. He then meets up with Blondie, and the two then kill Angel Eyes’ men, finding out that Angel Eyes has escaped. They head to the bridge leading to Sad Hill, where they come across a Union camp and watch a war going on. Blondie then has the idea of blowing up the bridge, and get to work on it. They both duck for cover. Tuco cowers from the exploding bridge. The next morning it’s shown that he fell asleep in that exact same position. Blondie wakes him up and they get going. As Blondie comforts a dying soldier, Tuco heads for the cemetery on a horse and Blondie shoots it.
The bandit realizes that the cemetery is right nearby and eagerly looks for the grave of “Arch Stanton”. He finally finds it and, to his confusion, there’s no gold inside, only Stanton’s body. So he, Blondie and Angel Eyes have a shootout. He and Blondie decide to kill Angel Eyes, but Blondie kills Angel Eyes first and reveals he unloaded the bandit’s gun the night before, and the grave with the gold is the one right next to Arch Stanton’s. He then forces Tuco to stand on a grave marker with a rope around his neck, and then rides away, leaving Tuco calling for Blondie. Once Blondi is a good distance away, he aims a rifle and shoots at the rope, severing it and leaving Tuco to land face first onto his share of the gold.
The movie ends with Tuco, hands bound with thin twine, screaming at Blondie in the distance: “Hey, Blondie! You know what you are? Just a dirty son-of-a-b-!“.
you nailed it!
When you think of it a little, you can see how this approach could work. It has worked for the lobbyists in controlling Congress, control the money and you control the dialog. President Trump isn’t new to this game, even if he is new to holding political office.
While I would have preferred starting from scratch with a new party, this approach leaves the infrastructure in place while changing the dynamic and the outcome. Time will tell how well it would work in practicality.
OldGoat36, There are drawbacks to both scenarios, and I have to believe Trump has analyzed the situation and knows much more about which path has the best chance of success. I’m fine with his decision.
Praying for God’s armor around our fearless lion-hearted leader. Amen
AMEN.
If you start a new party I think you would lose too many died in the wool gopers. Wouldn’t that just split the vote in the end like Perot ?
yep
1/4 Trump and 1/4 GOP don’t beat 1/2 Dem
Just as important, and President Trump noted it in his speech, there will be no splitting of the vote. There are families who have been Republican for generations and there are over sensitive types who could be lured to whatever GOP candidate there is. This way he locks them up out the gate. And has most of the infrastructure ready and waiting to be taken over …
This is probably the best approach. After all is said and done, politics is all about the Benjamins. You pays your money and you takes your choice.
That being said, my choice is to contribute to SAVE AMERICA PAC. Not another red cent to the GOPe.
Get to the Benjamins first
And the game’s reversed !
Loved when said ‘Get rid of them all.’
Says one thing does another! Get rid of them all but keep them all! That’s what’s happening here. And when GOP win House/Senate in 2022? What then, we going to see Election Fraud in the SC? No. We going to see law breaking FBI/CIA agents indicted with crooked politicians? No. What a crock. The only way the GOP hears the message of 2016 & 2020 is if every Senator in 2022 loses re-election along with all but 4-5 House members. Then they will listen to the base for 2024. This path forward is a status quo path. Nothing changes and those lining up to be a part of it, call back in 2025 when you realise you’ve been gamed again like 2016 & 2020.
Maybe I am not seeing things clearly. Let’s say locally and statewide the Republicans begin a strong fundraising scheme to re elect Greg Abbott, Cruz, Cornyn and others. The people I know will donate because they didn’t see Trump’s speech or are aware of anything else outside their blinders. I have tried educating the local elites and I was rebuffed. Hence we once again put RINOS in office.
I don’t think you are seeing things clearly.
Most of the people I knew who donated to President Trump never or rarely donated to the GOP before him. He raised millions and millions for the GOP through his website. Word will get out like it did in 2016 and 2020.
Abbott had a huge war chest that got him easily elected over Wendy Davis. Where did that money come from?
the highest majority came from corporate sponsors….period!
the reality is that contributions from individual voters doesn’t move the needle..
which sort of explains why our representatives just don’t care to represent. there is no pressure from the purse.
the entire concept of getting voters to drop money is to lasso a vote. And it works.
but lets be clear, DC isn’t moved one bit…it doesn’t even cover the light bills from voter contributions.
If you really want to “contribute”..voting and sending money isn’t how to influence politics.
you literally have to get involved in politics…literally gain power by cultivating these candidates at a core principle that money can never achieve. And to take on corporate power and cultivate them asl well.
sound too difficult? It’s a challenge..but that is the only way citizens on main street will ever have a chance.
the ‘old’ institutions and ideas no longer work..it’s the very definition of insanity doing the same send money and hope for the best will achieve any different results.
obviously.
True, and explains my situation.
I’m not kidding nor exaggerating when I say – outside of one or two donations in the past to some candidate or another that I can no longer remember – I basically never made political donations….until President Trump.
And President Trump, and by extension the RNC, got plenty of donations from me.
Spot On !!!! I am one of them. I had never donated but always voted. The donations could be massive .
I don’t think so..it seems like you are passively aggressively dissing the movement.
This speech was awesome, and the money will be rolling in.
The Establishment was put on notice Sunday by the Parties leader.
God bless PDJT
Wow. I have been on this site supporting Trump since the escalator ride. I simply asked for clarification on how it will work in my state. So when we need a teaching moment you bash…okey dokey.
seems so to me at least in these comments today.
Trust but Verify. Petzmom has earned her stripes and her thoughts are sound. Cornyn is nearly as bad as McConnell and is a traitor. Abbot and Cruz aren’t much either.
Good point about Cruz. He was more than happy to throw President Trump under the bus in his recent The Verdict podcast. Although I supported him in early GOP primary 2016 Trump has exposed Cruz along with the rest of the GOPers who talk loud and do nothing.
While Cruz talks a good game in terms of policy, I’ve always felt there was something slimy and dishonest about him. And I still can’t figure out how someone who is half Cuban could serve in the US Senate, much less run for President.
Not this Texan.
IMO…Abbott is toast, based on conversations with friends around the state. Only way he gets reelected is by acting on the border and that ain’t happening. May help if he adopts the DeSantis doctrine and fully opens Texas back up. Gov. DeSantis is clearly leading the way, but in my biased opinion it should have been Texas. Dang ‘ol pride. Giving credit where credit is due.
Cornyn. Stuck with this loser for 6 years. Cruz. Mixed bag at best. We will see what the primary brings.
I am deciding this week on a run for local office. Encourage those you know to run for everything from the school board to state senate. Just get your name on the ballot. My research shows that local elections are won with a mere 9.4% of the population. I like my chances. May vary in your neck of the woods.
Be well my friend.
Abbott is not toast!
This Texan certainly hopes Abbott is put out to pasture–YESTERDAY!!
He will be if we can find a real MAGA primary challenger.
Good Luck/Good Skill to you, Breakout15, in your running for a local office!!
I wonder if the cyber hacks are fudging with President Trump’s website. Foul creatures.
Only problem – None of this speaks to the election corruption problem. You can’t vote out corruption. Its inherently impossible… Especially given what we know now.
Trump’s chance was when he was still in the White House.
Trump had no chance – the courts screwed him. The FBI, CIA, NSA, Pentagon and all other agencies in Wash DC belong to the Islamo/Communist/Fascist Party. So, like what was he supposed to do?
Period.
There are countless things he could have done. What did Lincoln do when faced with similar problems?
And anyway – Just like Obama said and Biden is doing now… All you need is a pen and a phone. They weren’t going to like him anyway, but letting Biden step into the Oval Office? We won’t have Free and Fair elections ever again.
Please explain those countless things. States seceding from the union and Fort Sumter being fired upon is quite different. Just what was similar?
Seriously? If you don’t think we have similar problems as to before the Civil War, you really should open your eyes. Why are you here? Trolling?
How about disloyal traitors trying to overthrow the government, for one… Sedition. For which he suspended Habeas corpus. My point is that the country was faced with similar problems as today. People hate one another. Division is ever mounting. Does that sound similar enough for you?
All I ever hear form Libs is “By any means necessary” and “All you need is a Pen and a phone”.
Why can’t we ever do what is necessary? If the Dems fight dirty, we should fight dirtier. Hit harder. Cheat better. If we beat them at THEIR game, they’ll stop playing. Did the Allies bring flowers to fight the Axis? Or did we bring guns. If you expect to win, you have to fight to win. Otherwise, you should just shut up and take whatever they give you. And like it…
Or do you prefer smoke being blown up your “nose”? Politicians telling you what you want to hear. Being so blinded as to what is going on around you that you willingly walk into your own demise… If so, you should feel at home with all the other sheep. Might just as well get ready for that voting app they’ll be developing before long.
Ultimately, talking about the problems of elections is NOT the same as doing anything about it. Hence the intent of my original statement that Trump lost his chance to do anything meaningful when he gave up the Presidency.
Declared national emergency soon as the Dominion/Smartware vote shaving was discovered, which was around 3rd week of November.
Declared martial law, concurrent with above.
Sent US marshals to confiscate Dominion machines, paper ballots.
That’s serious business. But overthrowing a country deserves the biggest guns in the arsenal. Pussy footing around and being nice get you where we are today. So Mike has a valid point. His presentation is angry but his points are not entirely wrong.
Once the fake “insurrection” occurred it changed the landscape. How can he initiate an insurrection act when being accused of the same? I would rather have him at 97% favorbility with GOP voters as opposed with giving the dems more reasons to crucify him. Dems won a battle, Trump wins the war.
I do not look forward to the next four years of battles. But MAGA is stronger and more popular now and if we can hold our own it could be the destruction of the dem party once and for all.
As far as I am concerned, Pelosi’s HR 1 is unconstitutional. States, which repubs have the most control over can constitutionally make and override laws over federal legislatures. We need to demand it and they need to get busy. My chips are on Trump!
I just can’t get my head around how we are ever expected to win any more elections when we just witnessed the largest election fraud in HISTORY… And nobody did anything about it. Not the “right” people anyway…
I honestly don’t even think Biden can believe he’s in the Oval Office right now…
He doesn’t know where he is.
“As far as I am concerned, Pelosi’s HR 1 is unconstitutional.”
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So was her vote fraud that overthrew the United States. Didn’t stop it. HR1 won’t be stopped, either. Our Constitution is no longer in effect. The contract between the people and government is null and void.
HR-1, if passed, CAN BE STOPPED if enough of the State Legislatures grow a backbone, ignore it, and tell the Feral Government to pound sand, that they will not abide an Unconstitutional bill “giving” Congress the power to control elections.
Congress is busily sucking up everyone else’s power along with massively abusing their own.
State Legislatures must assert Their Constitutional authority – clear as day in the Constitution that the power to decide how the elections are run lie with the State Legislatures.
“Must”?
How are you going to compel them to do so?
How will you prevent an activist judge from overturning it if they do?
Seriously, we just watched several Republican dominated state legislatures get steamrolled.
By bodies that had no legal authority to do so.
I believe that bill to be Unconstitutional as well.
Boots, Trump had no support from any of the power structures in D. C. Without support, would declaring Marshall Law have worked?
I don’t know, but I doubt it. Would the military even carry out such an order? Since they slow-walked and did everything else they could to thwart him, debatable.
The courts? Doubtful, as they refused to even look at election fraud suits. If Trump had made that move, I don’t doubt the house would have impeached him immediately and the senate would have voted to remove him.
The deck was stacked, you have to know when to fold them.
What did Lincoln do, Mike? I believe he got himself killed ! I would rather have our real POTUS alive. The cardboard cutout in DC can stay behind his razor wire.
Let’s see how things play out.
Yeah – I hear you, but I’ve been told to “trust the plan” too many times in my life.
Let’s just put it this way – I’m not holding my breath… And I’m filling up the sandbags…
When did we hear that before?
Absurd comment..You wouldn’t be happy unless hey hung him.
What are you talking about? Is this comment meant for me?? “hey hung” who?
It has been revealed that Barr slow walked most of President Trump’s EOs.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/navarro-doj-slow-walked-trumps-executive-orders-while-fast-tracking-bidens_3688225.html
And now on top of cheating we have an influx of illegals that will be given voter registration cards stamped with D in their goody bags.
Hope. Meet REALITY…- – – …
You do not think these state Reps are not getting there money from the big boys, well when the well runs dry,you start to clean up the vote.
I think you are wrong. In WH, Trump was fragmented in a million different directions, problems and situations. Plus the fact he was shackled by betrayers and agencies that were working against him outwardly or in the background. Here, he will be focused largely on one thing only. We have yet to the result of his focus and energy on a single goal. It should be spectacular. Plus he gets to play golf alot!!
Well then, maybe he should have CLEANED HOUSE like we ALL said he should do at the outset. Like ALL DemonRats ALWAYS do at the outset…
This isn’t hindsight. We ALL knew he should have done it at the time.
Look – I supported him. I admired him. But he let us down. And I’m getting “cancelled” by people who decry Cancel Culture for saying that. But I don’t value “being told what I want to hear”. It is what it is. Everything Trump did for the last 4 years has been undone in less than a month. EVERYTHING.
Ultimately, you can’t vote out corruption. It is inherently impossible. The people in power now will NEVER let him back in. As I said in another reply: “I just can’t get my head around how we are ever expected to win any more elections when we just witnessed the largest election fraud in HISTORY… And nobody did anything about it. Not the “right” people anyway…
I honestly don’t even think Biden can believe he’s in the Oval Office right now…”
Corruption needs to be fought at the state level. Elections are run by states. What are you doing in your state to fix the problem?
Wyoming introduced House Bill 74, voter ID. On February 6 passed resolution that would ban any form of mail in balloting, curb side voting and ballot collection drop boxes. They are trying to severely limit absentee voting and prohibit electronic machines from tabulating votes.
Programmable machines enabled weighting of votes and arbitrarily adding votes to Biden and subtracting them from President Trump. Programmable machines must be eliminated.
I’ve never been a big contributor but the volume of emails I get from the RNC since the election and even today has been amazing.
I think they (the RNC) know they have a serious problem.
Yes, especially since they are relying on Trump.s name and still are not getting donations. They take for the idiots we are not.
ooops, Should be they take us for the idiots we are not.
And many of us replying with their postage paid envelope and two pennies with a big FU backstabbing SOBs written across the donation form. That is why they invited Trump to CPAC. They are now going to support him as they realize they are done without him.
You just called my play and BOY did it feel good to mail that nasty little message back to those Rino bastards . I still giggle – talk about graffiti .
Interesting isn’t it Thomas.
There seems to be something important about the money aspect of politics.
And now the RNC can no longer use Trumps name to scoop up gobs and gobs of it.
Funny how PT seems to think of these things and use it to his advantage.
PT starts his own PAC to raise money to use against the horrible RINOs and will not let the worst of R traitors even come close to using his name for re-election.
Slowly PT is closing the Republicans off from using anything to do with him or his name or anything to do with “TRUMP”, the one thing that was keeping the Rs in the game.
i read that the biggest $$$source ‘rona holds is the mailing lsts of donors . She monitizes that cause all R candidates want it .
Electing Republicans, no matter how much they parrot MAGA, won’t help. When they get to D.C., everything changes.
What happened to the “GOP is NOT recoverable”???
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/02/07/pay-attention-those-still-advocating-against-a-third-party-need-to-move-to-acceptance-phase-gop-is-not-recoverable/
Sometimes in politics, as with life, it is an evolving, fluid plan. Things change, You don’t dig your heels in when another path presents itself. SD explained his thoughts on this plan, in this article.
The alternative is to hand our country to the loons on a silver platter without a fight. That’s a hard no for me. I will fight.
Yes, but – things don’t “change” in two weeks. Do they? Honestly, they don’t.
Unfortunately, the “alternative” you posit (not mine, btw) is exactly what the GOP has been doing for the last 30 years. As long as “GOP-branded” candidates receive the PAC cash, the GOP will be happy. And “primarying” is not a new strategy. When has it worked, except to knock off a couple of very high-profile louses? (Kantor, Foley)
IMHO – SD was correct on Feb 7th, and is incorrect now.
Steve hilton asked PRESIDENT TRUMP if he would listen to roni mcromney about nominating rinos. PRESIDENT TRUMP said he would listen to anyone.
He LISTENED and supported mitch and a few other turncoats and paid the price.
I agree with SUNDANCE that this is a hostile takeover of the party.
Using the money as leverage to a desired outcome.
TRUMPANOMICS 101
So we both agree with SUNDANCE – except I agree with SUNDANCE on Feb 7th, saying that the GOP is not recoverable.
Any candidates the PAC supports will run as GOP. The money, in the end, will go to “GOP” branded candidates. When they get to DC, they will disappear into swamp.
Re “What happened to the “GOP is NOT recoverable”???
While I concede that promoting a third party option so strongly MAY have been premature, Sundance’s apparent change of opinion on that issue was due to new and valid information from Trump himself indicating that HIS plan is to take over the Republican Party and that he can successfully do so.
Refusing to change plans as new valid information becomes available is extremely unwise. Therefore, Sundance made the right decision to follow Trump’s lead regarding a third party run.
I might also add that a third party path to the presidency is quite impossible without the participation of Donald Trump himself; and, Trump made it very clear Sunday that he currently has ZERO plans to contemplate a third party effort. In my opinion, he’s smart to stick with an already existing nationwide organization, as corrupt as it is; rather than trying to build a new party organization in each of FIFTY different states quickly enough to win in 2024.
I’m actually disappointed he said this. If there was ever a time to start a third party, this is that time.
I want to see the GOP party destroyed and another take it’s place. I don’t care if it took a decade to do it. The GOP is relying on us to forget because it’s happened time and time again. “Reforming” the party from within has NEVER worked and won’t this time either.
Trump did not target the GOP leadership, except for Cheney. McConnell, Graham, McCarthy and others are still swamp rats and Trump is not only letting them stand but he is also listening to some or all of them.. None of them stood up for we their voters, nor for the independents and walkaway dems who voted for Trump’s policies. In spite of all the bad coming out of the Biden team, those repubs are the ones who allowed it to happen without a fight or even a whimper. They turned their backs on us before Jan 6th and cemented their position after Jan 6th supposedly based on the actions of a few. The head of the snake needs to be cut off and I didn’t hear that being said by PDJT.
To admire, respect and support PDJT, I do not have to agree with every word that he speaks nor every action he takes. While I recognize the advantages of “taking over” the republican party, I don’t see a plan to do that because the gorilla in the room remains in control.
“information from Trump himself”
“Refusing to change plans as new valid information becomes available”
IMO, there isn’t any “new information” available today that wasn’t available on Feb 7th. There was a simply a decision to be made. I agree with what SD said on Feb 7th, that the GOP isn’t recoverable. On Feb 7, the alternatives were well known, and the two main ones were “3rd party” and “primarying the RINOs.” This PAC represents the latter. I just believe that SD was correct was Feb 7th, and Trump is wrong on 2/28.
And, I agree with you on the difficulty of going 3rd-party. But I believe Trump was in a unique position to pull it off. If Perot had not been such a fruitcake, he would have come much closer than he did – and that was in a time when the perceived need for it was nowhere near what it is today.
However – I believe the proponents of “primarying” are underestimating the difficulty of that approach. In the end, the GOP is still in control, and when the candidate gets to DC, they’re sat down, told how it is, and 90%+ of them go along to get along.
Rob, who is going to lead this new party? I’ve said all along I’ll follow Trump’s lead. We are in a mess, and if he thinks this is the best way out, then I’M IN.
Brilliant idea. No money for the rinos.
One thing I said wouldn’t do is give another penny to the Winred RNC, never.
Makes perfect sense to me. Money is what fuels all these politicians. If Trump’s PAC can
compete with the Chamber of Commerce, that’s a real game changer.
My donation went to “WinRed” ……. so mad !!!
They process the donations. President Trump gets the funds. You know it, you just hate it.
10% goes to Maga Pac. What is that and who controls it?
In fact, who is going to control the SaveAmerica pac and make decisions on where the money goes? Trump isn’t going to decide on each distribution; so who will be managing/administering it?
tktk, President Trump is quite capable of doing that.
Please get the facts before trying to convince folks not to donate.
Smart move. This is a direct challenge to the RNC purse strings.
Brilliant gambit.
A minor point but he has taken the reins, not the reigns.
He will take the reins and reign, even if it’s raining.
None of that would matter if their isn’t another part of his plan to take out the systemic election fraud inherent across the country but Trump knows that and I believe that is coming.
Yes. Not that this won’t be important LATER, but first you have to throw off the yoke. Hopefully there is a Plan A that we don’t yet know about. Pray.
Agreed – but President Trump did not in the least ignore the topic. He more than several times reiterated that the election was stolen from him, from us.
He sprinkled the election fraud topic in here and there in different ways – added all up he addressed it quite extensively. I cheered when he mentioned the Time Magazine article in which they camouflage the election steal by redefining it as “fortifying the election”. Right, nothing but word games.
Additionally, President Trump gave a constitutional lesson on how changes to election laws and processes should happen as opposed to what did happen. He called for a return to an ELECTION DAY and for VOTER ID, pointing out that even the DNC requires an ID for admittance to its conventions!
All of this adds up to a call to action – we need to be LOUDLY RATTLING the State Government cages – be relentless – in pursuing election integrity. President Trump will be in the trenches fighting the good fight with all of us – that much was clear.
You are correct. As far as I am concerned, the President gave his troops their first to-do list in his speech yesterday:
A. CONTRIBUTE.
1) Single national day of voting
2) Legit reasons for mail-ins or absentee ballots (only 3): very sick, military, out of the country.
3) No mail-ins otherwise.
4) Voter ID
5) Universal Signature Matching
6) Citizen verification
7) Chain of Custody for every ballot.
There is a lot here that can be done, or at least started on a grassroots level. I have started thinking about a game plan for it. It is quite overwhelming at first, but we could do as much as possible towards this on our own. I have a group I mentor, and they are straining at the bit to get started.
The Italian Job, The Constitution gives the authority of making election laws to the state legislatures. This is OUR JOB to see that they do. In the Blue states there’s not much you can do, but in states with republican legislatures, there is no excuse for what happened.
There other jobs you must do. The sec of states runs elections in the state. He must carry out the laws. You need an attorney general who will investigate and prosecute those breaking the laws.
Now, the most important job. You must elect County Election Commissions that will put people working at your local voting precinct that are honest and will obey the laws.
Trump listed the laws WE must have to have honest elections. He cannot do any of those things, and he couldn’t as President.
If you aren’t willing to do your job, then you should not expect much on the federal level from Trump.
The plan he stated is the republican majority State legislatures and defeat of Pelosi’s HR 1.
What if Pres. Trump decides to run in 2024? Will his campaign be able to access the $$$$ in this new PAC?
Yes, he uses it or funds who he chooses.
Works for me. I have vowed never to vote for another Republican or fund them–but I CAN support PDJT’s Super Pac without a guilty conscience and support third party at the same time–albeit, a virtual third party.
No matter–as long as we get the RIGHT guys (and gals) in office, that is all that matters. Then again, as I’ve been saying for several months now, I do not believe politics as usual will save us. It’s gonna take politics by other means if we are to have even a chance at saving our country.
Found a Florida senator who needs to be Primaried.
All of them need to go save Hawley. The House has a handful that we should keep. This should be our default position.
Misfit, there were five votes for the Cruz proposal to investigate the election fraud. While I don’t necessarily trust the motives of Cruz, he did do something.
This guy has been soft on that question for a couple of months. IIRC.
Scott is a RINO.
He’s history.
sunnydaze, absolutely correct, he used Trump’s influence extensively to get elected. His new job in the senate is to raise money for incumbent Republicans reelections.
Considering how he uses economic diplomacy, the real question is, why did we expect anything else…
Is it even possible for President Trump to crate a PAC with no connections or relations to the RNC?
You just know Ronna Romney McDaniel, Chair of the RNC, is eager to scam even more money away from Trump supporters.
No guarantees this money will be controlled by Trump or that Trump won’t use it on rinos. Due diligence, not emotions.
I am suddenly being inundated with texts:
“Pres. Trump. Did you miss me?I just finished my CPAC speech! My team’s handing me the 1st donor list in 1 HR. Can I count on you? Donate: [goes directly to RNC’s “win red” site]”
It should be considered fraud. We all know the RNC and their win red donation solicitations go to fatten the coffers of corrupt NeverTrumper Republican establishment political consultants and here they are riding on the coattails of Trump’s CPAC speech. Never donating to the RNC again. EVER. Not until every last globalist RINO is removed from that organization.
I LOVE Trump’s go around with his own PAC! Thanks for pointing this out, sundance!
Does anyone even know who to contact in order for President Trump to be made aware of his supporters’ concerns or questions?
Do we need to tweet at President Trump’s sons or something in order to get President Trump’s attention?
Who is the person in charge of President Trump’s PAC and is he or she available to address potential problems or issues with the PAC, itself, through phone calls, emails, etc?
For example, there are people here who wish for President Trump’s PAC to sever their relationship with the RNC platform known as WinRed.
How do we get this wish expressed to the people running President Trump’s PAC?
Do the people running President Trump’s PAC plan to ever have a future sit down interview anytime soon or open up official social media accounts in order to make themselves available to respond to comments or questions from President Trump’s supporters?
The “3rd party or bust” crowd has been put in a bind now. Tried to tell you it was unlikely to happen, but live and learn, eh? ?
thank you oh enlightened one… ppfffttt
The truth hurts.
Really how could we all possibly get along without commenters like Magabear to lead us through the darkness fragemall./s
Trump’s the BOSS. Live with it.
I’m not the one having an issue living with it.
Corporate, Wall Street, and foreign money makes up the bulk of funding for the RNC. They don’t need MAGA contributions.
Are you 100% sure that this will not go to the GOP? I do not want to give $$ to those bastards.
The “Save America PAC”… I like it. And how ’bout “Take Back America” for the campaign slogan? :^p
It takes a builder, a man of business, to rebuild a country.
Watch the RINOs conspire with the dems to change the PAC rules once their money flow reduces to a trickle. Would not put it past them.
Let them try HelloWorld.
And then let them feel the heat of whatever PT unleashes upon them.
I believe he has though of this move they might try and make already and probably hopes they go there.
In many respects I see this as a brilliant move.
For many years we’ve seen politicians act like crack addicts when it comes to money. We are in this situation now because of money coming from certain directions controlling the Uniparty, and it ain’t main street. We’ve seen our tax dollars funneled into politicians pockets once it’s laundered through foreign aid and back to their little nepotistic foundations. This happens because those same politicians become so entrenched and safe in their seats because the party insures it.
How do you counter Soros, Zuckerdweeb, Schmidt, Gates and other leftist billionaires influencing everything from local elections to how the votes are counted?
Create this PAC, and it will not only fund MAGA candidates, but it will force the RNC to either compete with better candidates, or wither on the vine. It will not take long for even those who have funded the RNC for years to realize they will have to donate to this PAC if they have any hope to continue their influence, or just a say in direction.
Create this PAC and cause RNC, NRCC and NRSC funding to dry up even more such that no longer will a few swamp rats be calling the shots over which Senator or which House race gets funding. It’s been over 25 years since I donated to any party entity because of people like McConnell, Boehner, Ryan and others determining which House race was considered worthy. I also refused to donate to a party where it would benefit someone like Arlen Specter, McCain, Flake, Murkowski or Collins.
Why would I donate to an RNC or party entity that funded the likes of consultants like that toad Rick Wilson, John Weaver, Steve Schmidt and others who didn’t give a damn about whether their candidate won or lost, as long as they got paid.
President Trump took out the clown in GA and has announced his support for the rival of another RINO who voted for impeachment. He’s got a little under 2 years to show results. A lot can be done in that amount of time when at his peak, he was holding 5 rallies a day.
This may not be an immediate solution some are looking for, but it may be better for the country over the longer term.
With small donor money drying up, why wouldn’t the RNC simply turn more to big corporations, billionaires, and foreign entities for funds?
They can do that, and make it more obvious they have no interest in main street voters who supported Trump.
Jeb! made it clear millions to campaign with doesn’t mean much any more.
Nicely said Sir.
I just clicked on the link and it went to his PAC. Maybe it has been fixed.
He has taken the REINS – NOT REIGNS.
Our Great Former President Trump also said that donations to his new PAC could be made at
donaldjtrump.com
It appears to be legit.
WinRed is a payment processing platform for Republicans just like Actblue is for the Commies
Peter Navarro didn’t have much good to say about the new PAC man Lewandowski and Bannon, among others all crowded around PT.
This article is from a month ago…but, indicates a good start.
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Trump’s Save America PAC starts 2021 with more than $31M, filings show
https://www-foxbusiness-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trumps-save-america-pac-starts-2021-with-more-than-31-million.amp?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16145780467186&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxbusiness.com%2Fpolitics%2Ftrumps-save-america-pac-starts-2021-with-more-than-31-million
Unfortunately corporate entity’s will still spend more money than MAGA.
When you click on the “Contribute Now” link at the website Sundance posted, this message shows at the bottom left hand of the screen: “Your contribution will benefit Save America Joint Fundraising Committee.” Following this is “Save America JFC is a joint fundraising committee on behalf of Save America and Make America Great Again PAC (“MAGAPac”). Joint fundraising proceeds shall be allocated among the committees as follows: 90% to Save America, 10% to MAGAPac.” Can anyone tell me if either of these two entities have connections to the RNC? I want to make sure the answer is NO before I part with my money.
I do recall his campaign (pac) money processing company cancelling him. Perhaps Winred is being used short term?
Save America JFC is a joint fundraising committee on behalf of Save America and Make America Great Again PAC (“MAGAPac”). Joint fundraising proceeds shall be allocated among the committees as follows: 90% to Save America, 10% to MAGAPac.
Notwithstanding this allocation method set forth above, any contributor may designate his or her contribution for a particular participant. In addition, the allocation formula may change if a contributor makes a contribution which would exceed the maximum legal amount that a contributor may give to a particular participant.
A Trump PAC would make RNC beholden to MAGA objectives.
Although powered by serviced by winred systems this is for PDJT’s Save America/MAGA Pac. On the donation page it states this and I happily donated knowing so:
Save America JFC is a joint fundraising committee on behalf of Save America and Make America Great Again PAC (“MAGAPac”). Joint fundraising proceeds shall be allocated among the committees as follows: 90% to Save America, 10% to MAGAPac.
Notwithstanding this allocation method set forth above, any contributor may designate his or her contribution for a particular participant. In addition, the allocation formula may change if a contributor makes a contribution which would exceed the maximum legal amount that a contributor may give to a particular participant.
The maximum amount an individual or PAC may contribute to Save America JFC is $5,000.
Contributions to Save America JFC are not tax deductible as charitable contributions for federal income tax purposes. Contributions by corporations, labor unions, foreign nationals, and federal government contractors are prohibited.
This effort is worth the try. Be sure to vote in the party always for conservatives. Be sure you can vote in your primaries—-and let’s give this a try. All money to MAGA.
Trump & Company gonna use the same old mechanisms the RNC and GOP used last time around and that’s because they’re stupid, and I ain’t haven’t nothing to do with Redwin, RNC or GOP. I couldn’t be more against politics as I am today more than ever I am. I might get behind Trump again I’m not sure it depends on how tenaciously he clings to the decepcons. Besides I’m not even gonna go think about voting and elections until the system is just. And that is never gonna happen not in my life any way. Personally I’ve done all I was asked to do and everything I could think to do I did. Right now all I see is a lot posturing mostly losing and all I’m hearing is a lot of rhetoric and talk talk talk. The opposition is a unified cohesive force with one purpose and we don’t even have a plan. The plan I’m hearing sounds like more of the same losing crap strategy.