Australian officials are pushing back against the totalitarian grip of Big Tech. {Go Deep} As a result of investigations into Google and Facebook the Australian government is set to establish fines against tech companies for anti-trust violations. However, some officials are now discussing taking actions that are beyond civil lawsuits, and are now advocating for arrest of company officers for unlawful conduct. {Go Deep}
The battle lines are being drawn, and in response to the Australian government position on anti-trust Facebook (feeling they are elite and above the law) has now decided to block all news articles from the entire country from their social media platform.
FACEBOOK ANNOUNCEMENT – […] this means people and news organisations in Australia are now restricted from posting news links and sharing or viewing Australian and international news content on Facebook. Globally, posting and sharing news links from Australian publishers is also restricted. To do this, we are using a combination of technologies to restrict news content and we will have processes to review any content that was inadvertently removed. (read more)
…. “ in the process, Facebook blocked readers from access to The Bureau of Meteorology, state health departments, the Western Australian opposition leader, and charities as a result of the company’s wide-ranging ban on sharing or viewing news.”….
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/facebook-shows-australia-boss-cuts-off-news-blocks-access-health-departments-charities-emergency-services-process/
Thats OK
We can start other platforms
There an opportunity for Australian IT whizzes here
And a lesson for the world
Surrendering ground to an enemy is not a lesson to be taught…
Boycotting and deplatforming an enemy is, however. Deplatform and De-person. Die, die, die Fakebook.
In better days our enemies were hanged. Apparently we no longer have the stomach to use this obvious solution.
That would happen in a state of criminality OR anarchy – and it would take place on BOTH sides. You’re criticizing people for “keeping their powder dry”?
I took that post by spoogels as sarcastic, but without the /s who knows.
If it’s not sarcasm, then I agree with you.
Not surrendering ground. Capturing market share by providing a superior product.
China behind this? Big disputes between the CCP and Australia now, too…
Evil!
Isolating your enemys allies is war 101.
Most people don’t even recognize that we are in a war.
JAIL the information tyrants at FakeBook, FewTube, GooGhoul and TwitWit > imposing ignorance is a Crime Against Humanity
Dear Australia:
Remember the words of Lawrence of Arabia….
Good hunting.
So many tyrants, yet so few with the conviction to hang them.. what a world..
I predict this decision by Facebook to block news from Australia will boomerang on them.
Can kangaroos catch Co-Vid? Now, we’ll never know.
LOL, I see what you did there, ha ha
<Can kangaroos catch Co-Vid? Now, we’ll never know.>
I wouldn’t leap to that conclusion.
And will Kookaburra still sit in the old Gum Tree? And will he laugh?
Am Australian, and only nitwits would use facebook as a place to get news, so I don’t think I have a problem if they just disappear up their own whatsit.
Perhaps the BEST approach, is for Australia
to say “goodbye, and don’t let it hit ya, where the good Lord split ya!” to Facebook, entirely?
People, USERS of Facebook are being forced to realise theres no free lunch, these companies ARE where they ARE, Billion $ companies, thru data mining AND data manipulation.
And Society is paying the price, and NOW the true bill is coming DUE.
Yes, well put.
Well I dug into this a little deeper. I can’t say I blame Facebook for their action. I would have responded in the same way.
News organizations want to get paid for their product. They expect Facebook to pay them for free distribution. Because news has value. It is like letting someone setting up a yard sale on your lawn, and now they want to charge you for using your lawn!
Figure that the media companies lobbied government to extract money from FB to start with. Now the extortion attempt has backfired. They are entitled to find value elsewhere.
And facebook has all the personal info on the family that owns the lawn and they are selling that info to further enrich themselves.
Facebook is the lawn, Australian media are the squatters.
FB should pay the media – I pay for media that requires a subscription, otherwise I don’t see it. I’m not a MSM supporter – but that shouldn’t change the rules.
I got off FB after the 2016 election after I figured out that FB was shadow banning me, because I was a Trump Supporter.
OR Australia is the lawn and Facebook is the dog poop.
Nah. the media cooks it up, facebook is a dealer, and for far too long the public have been the users. Fortunately, it’s much easier to give up than smoking tobacco.
Facebook is a global threat to democratic sovereign nation states. When they wield so much unchecked power with so little accountability… Should we really care about their point of view? Currently, they are a law unto themselves.
At this point we are programed to hate FB for anything they do. Most are lashing out without getting the facts down.
Do they still claim to be a social platform- a space to share ideas in the public square?
Yeah, they do.
Are they blocking the dissemination of free speech? I.E., only allowing material they approve of to be published?
Yes they are…
They are not a social platform. They are a publisher but want the protections of an open platform.
Sorry- stop defending them. We are not angry because we are uninformed, we are angry because yet again free speech is stifled.
I don’t care what Facebook’s reason is- you’re either A or B…you don’t get to straddle the fence and lick what works best for you in that moment.
Excellent.
This is excellent for all the US State Attorney’s that filed against FB and challenging it’s “platform” protections.
This is old news – it has been going on for a while – so why do you think that people don’t have the facts? I let my Australian Family & Friends know about alternatives Duck Duck Go, Gab, Rumble, etc about a month ago. The latest news is that FB actively blocked Australians – just like they always do.
You must be programmed to be an apologist for Facebook. Perhaps you need to do a little fact checking of your own. By the way, in your little scenario posted above, you are the lawn…..has Facebook given you renumeration for all of your personal information ? Have you given Facebook permission to ONLY put information in your feeds that aligns with their ideology and to also BLOCK information from people that you “friend” on Facebook who post information that goes against Facebook’s approved ideology?!
No, people hate Facebook because of what they’ve done to them personally. I used to get news from Facebook from over 30 different sources. Every single one of them is gone.
That right there tells the story. Can you name a few of those that were shutdown ?
“At this point we are programmed to hate [Facebook] ”
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Facebook has richly earned the incandescent wrath of every patriotic American. Should the Australian SEALs kidnap the entire face book management team right in front of me all that I would do is laugh, laugh, laugh!
Throw them into solitary for 6 months & ask them how does it feel ?
Yes bert, we are programmed by our Constitution to dislike FB for nearly everything they do.
As opposed to corrupt politicians who take their money. Which is worse?
somewhere in the middle is a respectable compromise however. What FB position is: we link to your news, post it and get paid…sorry for you..no coins.
the issue is that FB is making coin by publishing.
you try to get away with THAT in any other venue beyond “social media” and see how far the courts allow and the suits go after you.
this is a publisher issue as much as it is a scale issue.
see, I (tiny little me) can post a link to a new article, and quite frankly no once cares.
a. I’m not making money doing it.
b. It don’t have scale
c. It can hardly be argued I am in any way regarded as a publisher or provider.
but that all changes if tomorrow, I decide to GO BIG, and start publishing links to BILLIONS OF VIEWER WORLDWIDE, and making BANK.
so your point is valid as it represents one side of the argument, but it dismisses the other side of the argument and THAT IS SIMPLY THIS:
whether we call it news or just info-tainment……someone is doing real work, spending real money and time and resources to PRODUCE AND CREATE CONTENT. And it’s licensed content too, with all the legal aspects attached to ownership and copyright.
What FB has done, and so far unchecked, for a very long time, is to ignore these realities, and “assume” that there it’s free game to make bank on the work of others!
I will also point out that google is in the same boat with Australia, BUT with one very important distinction: google hammered out a agreement with news orgs in australia and those content providers and creators SHARE in the monetization of their work!
so when you compare the two, it’s clear how this should have been settle for FB:
compromise and work something out.
But that IS NOT the action of FB. Instead, they simply said..We quit and picked up their toys and went home.
Look into to this issue a little deeper even beyond my simple explanation and what you find with both of these two companies (google and facebook) are issues that are very important about “free press” and legal protections.
The real reason these companies do not want to “enter business” with news orgs, is because that exposes the risk of realizing that yes, they are publishing and telecommunication companies..that invites regulation that so far, they have been successful avoiding.
It’s a pretty big deal.
and it relates in many ways to the ongoing argument about S230 waivers for social media/big tech.
I’m not sure if I consider what google did in australia is going to give them this risk, but it might happen. I think a company like google would certainly consider the risk their actions take on. I suspect they probably hammered out a secret political deal with government there, even if I have not evidence to back it up (at this time).
I would be suspicious that google entered the business of becoming financial partners with news orgs in australia, unless they worked out some agreement doing so, would not expose them to liabilities and scrutiny of S230 type regulation, or publisher risk and the liability laws that go with that too.
This merging of big tech with “news” and media is obviously problematic, and it definitely gives these companies huge sway in selecting the specific narratives that give it more power and influence over government policy. So when I see this action, big tech and social media getting into bed with NEWSCORP…my first reaction is: this is more than just about ad revenue and respecting content ownership.
We can see clearly the abuses now, where both companies are engaged in censorship…
you take it a few steps more and soon (following) the amazon model, you find out what kind of products/news people are buying/reading and you just edge out the “storefronts” altogether and sell amazon brands…essentially killing the sellors. I suspect that is precisely the long term goals with FB and google with news. Influence the news orgs with huge payouts for the kinds of news to print that draw the most ad revenue..and then eventually buy the companies out altogether…ala amazon style.
we already know this happens…and hoping the small companies are making a impact in various anti-trust suits and claims.. But I am very anxious to see how well this congress and this bridem administration handles that.
sorry, got long on that response.
Did you read recently that Amazon manipulates Reviews – imagine that!
Tiger, Thank you!! So much more than I realized.. Wow..
“This merging of big tech with “news” and media is obviously problematic, and it definitely gives these companies huge sway in selecting the specific narratives that give it more power and influence over government policy”……….
This is ALREADY being done. ALL of the mainstream news, print, TV, internet, magazines, etc. are owned by the SAME 6 globalist companies. Look it up.
regitiger, an excellent explanation of what they are doing and the probability of what they will do. Scary
You fundamentally misunderstand FACEBOOK.
Facebook expects to be paid for free distribution of YOU.
YOU are the value FB peddles.
It’s YOUR LAWN…and FB wants set THEMSELVES up to run the yard sale…
But more than that…..they want to block people from going into your house and even kick you out of your OWN house when they feel like it.
Facebook and other social media ARE getting paid. Not only do they have advertisers who pay for their name to be displayed in front of their target customers, they collect, buy, and store every datum of information about every single user that they can get. This gives them a revenue stream of BILLIONS, plus whatever power they might extract from that information. For example, what is it worth to a political opponent to have proof that a politician goes to kiddie porn web sites? Or what will the politician pay–or what will he DO–to keep that information buried?
I’m not so sure your metaphor is complete. In this real-life situation, the news orgs using Facebooks lawn for their yard-sale is of massive benefit to Facebook…visitors and time on site literally is Facebooks business model to sell advertising.
Essentially, the new orgs. here are acting as promoters, just like night club promoters. And so, the news orgs want to get paid for the work they are doing bringing the traffic to the lawn, so that the lawn owner can get that sweet, sweet data and targeting to sell for even more than the media company will ever make.
I despise both parties at play here. And my solution would be tell both of them to work it out themselves and keep government out of it completely. The market will settle something like this.
The market only works when information is shared freely. When the narrative is manipulated then the market moves towards the direction the manipulation takes them.
Just enforce the rules on the books and stop letting the companies say they are A when actually they are B. But, that won’t happened because the tech companies own the politicians. It’s a dangerous game and a circular one currently.
I submit to you, this ban is not about $ money this is about ideas.
No, it is about money.
1.7 On 20 April 2020, the Government directed the ACCC to develop a mandatory code of conduct. This reflected:
• that the Australian media sector was already under significant pressure, which was being exacerbated by a sharp decline in advertising revenue driven by the Coronavirus; and
• the advice of the ACCC that digital platforms and news businesses were unlikely to reach voluntary agreement on the key issue of revenue-sharing (joint media release by the Treasurer and the Minister for Communications, Cyber Safety and the Arts, dated 20 April 2020).
It’s okay for the media to charge for their services. But not okay to censure and manipulate
their customer.
I think it is more like the newspapers in a coffee shop. Everyone is reading them, and the coffee shop has to pay the subscription.
However, Facebook (the coffee shop) want the papers for free, and to charge everyone to read them.
Excellent analogy. I will steal this because this is what is happening.
FB makes $86B in revenue each year selling data from people who use the platform (not their customers) to advertisers, or any one who wants to spy on or manipulate specific people or classes of people. If FB user A wants to read article from news organization B, that’s all valuable data to FB, to enhance the value of the product they sell. They’re trying to use their massive wealth and monopoly databases to control the news narrative to fit the political views of their paying customers (including CCP) and their corporate leadership.
Its a little bit more complex than that,example ; if some idiot posts on spybook they are going to commit
a crime (and they do) spybook under law then must inform the the relevant authority,ok then if you or I
come in to information in regards to a crime about to be commited we also by law must inform said
authoritys ok sounds dandy
BUT spybook gets paid for every piece of information they choose ( yes choose) topass on.
You and I get a pat on the back and called a good citizen,(theoretically as I am no rat )
Problem is this means that spybook cannot only direct the subject matter as they see fit to impose on world concsiness they can also use this unlawfully gained power to control goverments.
The information that that Joe blo provides to keep his community free is free.
The information that d*ckheads provide to spybook for free is used by corporations (NWO) to enslave humanity,not for freedom.
Off subject, what part if OZ ya from ?
Right. I can’t, for the life of me, figure out what all these people do on Facebook?! I live a totally normal suburban middle-aged life and facebook is 0% of it.
I just can’t understand what it is FB has that apparently so many people just can’t live without, or even find handy?! It is very bizarre.
The young people post their whole lives, pictures included, on Facebook. They seem to have no concern about telegraphing their preferences to the whole world.
“Stupid is as stupid does”.
It’s not young people. I have young sons (23,20,17) and none of them use Facebook. Only the 23 and 20 year olds have accounts. Only the 23 year old even checks on it periodically.
Now, Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat are a completely different story. Tik Tok as well.
I agree. I dumped fb several years ago. Too many people posting too much worthless info and bs.
Meantime also in Australia Google caved yesterday and signed a content agreement with Seven West media. Wins all round.
This is dangerous- read Reg’s post. He’s very on point with the issue.
It’s like Total Recall, on Earth instead of Mars and unfortunately real not fiction.
No worries, nothing much happens here anyway.
I didn’t actually realise that people go their news through Facebook. Why would you allow a third party to put a barrier between you and news sources? You are then is a position where somebody else controls what information you receive. Crazy.
news is important when people read it. new is phenomenal when it reached billion of viewers.
that’s essentially why media companies are some of the most profitable companies in the world!
it’s about ad revenue (monetization).
if you go back to print news…actual newsPAPERS…the model was paid subsciptions and then the nice colored inserts…the newspapers are getting PAID enormous profits to insert those ads. Lots of money…far more than the subscriptions. But they are limited..because paper can’t match the speed and efficiency to reach a massively huge audience.
in the digital media, this all changed..It’s not even close to the old model.
If you look at the statistics (there are literally thousands of companies around the world who study and analyse “news” and traffic, FB accounts for a massive audience. FB MAKES IT”S MONEY DIRECTLY FROM THIS MONETIZATION..and not just from news, but NEW is a significant chunk.
the model of FB is quite ingenious in fact. people use FB to connect, share stories/photos/videos/memes, etc..but they also share the stories of the day…that billions of monetized links that FB gets paid! You might think..ahh, it can’t be that much money.
FB is the among the most profitable companies in the world..IN THE WORLD. AMAZON, GOOGLE, APPLE, MICROSOFT LEVEL profitable. These companies make huge profits from ad and marketing revenue and selling big data they collect from user meta.
give you an example..a few years back (ok, about 20), and wanted to know how Ford and GMC were making most of their money. We typically think this is auto manufacturing…but that is quite a small fraction of what they actually make compared to their credit division. These companies also learned the key to success and enormous profits was from big data. What these social media and tech companies have done is created products, but by design they are also gaining access to the vast amounts of data for ANY PRODUCT THAT CAN BE SOLD AND BOUGHT..Not just autos. Everything. And that IS their model. Everything.
News is just one part of the action. But News is a very important part of these companies..in fact, it’s probably the most important part. When you can influence content…meaning directly influencing the creators of it..that’s power. You can also do this by selectively driving the types of news that you want and avoid news that you don’t. This would be highly desirably to companies that want to have more influence on political policy…laws..regulations…essentially, these companies learned the best way to be competitive, is to destroy competition AND to have such an enormous impact on the kind of narratives that people begin to believe is truth, that you can essentially control politics up and down, left and right.
we are already seeing this…
and yes, to some extent this has always been in play with the old models of newspapers. The difference being, it is highly likely that all major owners of media are now controlled in all the most important ways beholden to a bottom line that is favorable to these mega tech companies.
that newscorps signed a deal with google should not been seen as a good thing..ultimately, its going to create a paradigm shift where news isn’t just state controlled…it’s going to be about the control of thought, behavior and “right thinking”…
we are very close to that already.
Total Recall- but sadly, this is real life. And we have no Arnold to restart the oxygen machines to break the strangle hold.
There is a huge void that FB fills and that is hyper local advertising.
There are no more local print newspapers or Pennysavers to speak of.
Where can you advertise if you’re running for town board or state assembly? The only place where you can target your voters cheaply is on FB.
However, FB still intrudes and they make it hard to be allowed to run political ads. You wouldn’t believe the vetting process.
Plus they censor your ads. The problem is that local media is not that profitable and the scum at FB hav3 taken advantage of that fact.
In addition, they charge different fees for political advertisements depending on who you associate with politically. This was brought to the forefront this past election cycle. The news died fast but they do it.
Now people can see why Fake News is hellbent on self-destruction. Ten years ago we got our news from the TV, newspapers, and magazines where everything was published to appeal to as many people as possible. Now, most of those sources are obnoxious Fake News. Many are shut down and more are soon to follow. They are now chasing everyone away from those sources and driving them online where the news available to any person is selected as that which they deem that person should have access to.
Fake News is owned by Tech gods and globalist corporations who have most likely already written them off.
If you do not believe that then research General Motors and how they bought up streetcar companies for their properties, shut them down, then build huge buildings that would block them from ever coming back.
Which is what “Who Framed Roger Rabbit ” was about. An allegory about the pavement cabal.
All of this occurred in 1947. Dayton has trackless trollies, with overhead wires still going. Decades ago they
replaced the rotting bus bodies. Some of the electrical engines had to be rewired. All the engines were 30-40+ years old.
None had been built after……. 1947.
But what do McConnell and the RNC think? We’ll have to ponder long and hard to figure it out.
We have reached a point where you can ask that question without sarcasm or irony… You are right, we really would like to know.
hanbun, whatever it is you can be assured it is detrimental to the country and you.
Fakebook wants to pander to China and the globalist left. Good, every nation should ban FB like PDT tried to do with tictoc
^^^^^
This. Zuckerburg admires the fact that Mao didn’t bathe. He admires a second rate nation, China, that can’t think on its own, invent, or innovate.
Zuck likes a 50% Chinese poverty rate. He admires President Xi’s liddle rice krispie. Most of all he admires Chinese blood money.
There’s no way that companies like Google, Amazon, Facebook or Microsoft, no matter how progressive the CEO including Zuckerberg, would give anyone a vote in the management or direction of their business who isn’t a shareholder. On top of that the shareholder can only get his say in proportion to the number of shares he owns. In other words the shareholder has paid for his vote and his voice in the decisions of the business. The framers of the Constitution had the same criteria when they gave the right to vote to landowners. Why do we allow Gimmedats who either pay no federal taxes or collect welfare or are newly arrived immigrants the right to vote when they haven’t paid for shares in the United States? Someone who is on welfare can vote for taxpayers to pay more taxes so they can get more welfare? A convicted felon can vote for a judge or DA who won’t enforce the law putting felons in prison? How is this not going to end in a disaster?
Perhaps they have the right to vote because we might be veterans. I can think of several other reasons.
Are you a veteran on welfare????
As much as I hate the way big tech censors as of late. The Australian government media are about to learn a cold hard fact of life. It’s better to have more eyeballs reading your stories than not. Traffic to their online stories will plummet hard. Advertising revenue will drop like a rock. If only Big Tech would take a stand against China so effectively. But there’s way too much potential money for them to turn away.
No it’s not.
That may be true had Facebook been evenhanded and fair minded. But Facebook decides whos stories gets eyeballs/ or not according prescribed political dogma. Facebook actively interferes in Nation states democratic processes. Facebook bends backwards to the CCPs ridiculous demands, but decides to spit the dummy out of the pram when Australia pushes back.
Correct. And f*ck China and the Americans who idolize it because they make Chinese blood money there.
#DeleteFaceBook is trending on twitter. Kind of ironic!
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23DeleteFacebook&src=trend_click&vertical=trends
LOL…you can’t make this up. The same dolts on Twitter chastising Patriots for moving to drop Facebook post election because of their censuring of voter fraud are now the ones making it trend.
Twitter is comprised of more duplicitous people than a multiple personality disorder support group meeting.
Jack approves that message.
Facebook who?
Just read the comments here
Many say Farcebook and Twatter interfere in politics and elections and Australians are not having any of it!
Australians arent crying!
THIS is what fighting back is about
Australians are stroppy and tough
They wont take any crap from Zuckcommie ad his ilk
Theya re calling Zuckerberg a Kim Jong Un
The Australian govt will NOT BACK DOWN
‘Send them packing’: Facebook is told it can leave Australia if it refuses to abide by our laws and pay for news content – as Mark ‘Jong-Un’ Zuckerberg is compared to North Korean dictator
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9272225/Facebook-boss-Mark-Zuckerberg-accused-acting-like-communist-dictator-Kim-Jong-news-ban.html
and
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9272225/Facebook-boss-Mark-Zuckerberg-accused-acting-like-communist-dictator-Kim-Jong-news-ban.html
and
Not sure how “stroppy and tough” the Australians were when they allowed their guns to be taken away.
I know Australians and they don’t need guns.
I think I’d rather have guns than those ridiculous Security grilles on the windows.
Australians do have guns though – a population of approximately 26M with about 3M registered firearms – the a few thousand illegal firearms in the hands of criminals. Look it up on ABS.
I might add that some of those guns were stolen from a couple of unattended Police Stations when I lived down there.
Australia has guns
Quite a lot
Gun ownership in NSW surges past 1 million mark just in time for state election2019
Data showing NSW has a fast-growing appetite for gun ownership has fuelled a battle between the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party and the Greens just a fortnight from the state election.
Key points:
There are now more than 1 million registered guns in NSW, and 90,000 have been registered in the past two years alone, according to NSW Firearms Registry data released under freedom of information laws.
That means there is now one registered firearm for every eight NSW citizens, according to Gun Control Australia (GCA).
The figures show one gun owner in Eastgardens has 305 registered firearms, while one Mosman resident owns 285, and one in North Sydney has 268 in their possession.
GCA, which released the data, said the numbers were worrying.
“It paints a picture of significant concern at the rising number of guns and the introduction of greater gun culture in NSW than we see as being healthy,” vice chair Roland Browne said.
The Greens also said the report was alarming and the party is using it as a warning against votes for the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers (SFF) Party.
“There are literally dozens [of people] with more than 100 guns — these are private arsenals right in the middle of our suburbs — there is no reason for anyone in Sydney to have the gun numbers of that order,” Greens MLC David Shoebridge said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-09/gun-ownership-in-nsw-growing-fast/10886380
LOL…They travel the world competing to see who can be the most obnoxious!
The way I know Australians is that they won’t give a rat’s ass. Tomorrow is another day. Yes, like Laurence said “To have news value is to have a tin can tied to one’s tail.”
Some of the older community will – I got off FB 4 years ago, but most my family & friends are still on it, mind you I live overseas, so it would be helpful to keep in touch.
As a proud Australian this will have absolutely no effect. I do not click on any Facebook news feeds (they are all fake news) and I go direct to all Fire Brigade pages to check on dangerous fires and fire control. Whilst Australian government officials are spluttering with horror that a private company can behave in such a fashion, I just say – ÿour business, your say, your loss.
Lets see how Zuck does against Australia’s excellent security services.
Australia should simply shut down all Farcebook operations in, to, and thru Australia. There are plenty of other social media platforms for the people of Australia to use.
PM Morrison: “They may be changing the world, but that doesn’t mean they should run it”.
BALLS!
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/wrong-unneccessary-and-heavy-handed-treasurer-slams-facebook-s-news-restrictions-20210218-p573oo.html
Australia
Government slams Facebook for sick double standards by creating the ‘perfect’ platform for paedophiles to share child abuse – while stopping YOU from reading the news
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9272893/Facebook-slammed-Peter-Dutton-changes-making-easier-paedophiles-share-abuse.html
Really? People use Facebook as a news source? Deliberately or does Facebook push news at unsuspecting dupes?
Good on ya Australia! Now tie FB to election results and start the trials. Come on Myanmar Join the fun. Where are you Ukraine? You know FB messed with your elections too. Scoop up some FB people over there and and hold them till Zuck himself comes to get them out and then grab his butt.
Somebody will start to sing.
You don’t think that they mess with elections? See Regitigers post half way down the 1st page. They point everything in the direction that they want including election of free states and they do it by controlling what you can and cannot read on their services.
And charge different rates for ad space in their scrollers. They, in the past election, would charge Republicans excessive prices while providing almost free ad space to Democrats. I wish I still had the article saved.
I’m from Oz. Mild outrage from the Government. As far as the people are concerned it’s a case of ‘so what’, there was life before Facebook even existed.
I don’t understand the specific issue here. Regardless FB and the rest of big tech manipulate and steer information for a political ideological agenda. Anything that weakens them or opens up the possibility for a competitor is welcome. FB have done themselves no favor by their actively promoting an agenda even interfering in an election. In the past I would have supported a US technology company to do business as it wishes and let the market decide but can no longer do that, even if they are right on this specific issue. They have lost potential supporters and customers. Never used FB myself.
Facebook not giving you news is actually laughable. It’s like removing air conditioning from a convertible on a sunny 80 deg afternoon. This zuckerburg idiot is real proud of himself. We all know about pride…..
These people. They are all suffering from what I call Billionaire’s Disease. Why is it that all these newer generation billionaires want to change the world and everyone in it to fit their own worldview?
It’s a disease. They are sick, and their sickness is manifested as ego-maniacal urges. It consumes their lives. They want to convert people. They suffer from a Messiah complex.
I propose an experiment. Gather them all up, put them on a deserted island and watch what happens. Put it all on FeceBook. That would be a LOT of FUN to watch.
So you are saying that Australia is now a target rich environment. Happy hunting, mates…
This is merely Big Tech’s test of their censorship powers. Big Tech is the mechanism by which our Globalist masters will consolidate their power in order to create their New World Order’s Global Government. They can now muzzle each country one at a time until they have it under their boot, then go on to the next one until we are ALL under their boot.
You know how when you see a sportsball game and think to yourself, “It’s too bad both teams can’t lose.”
Both sides are losing on this one, and it is very enjoyable. I think just in terms of watching a good scrap, it would be ideal for the Australian government to tell its citizens they’ve got 10 days to save off all their account information, photos, etc. because facebook.com will no longer be available in the country.
Psychologically, the people of Australia (just like all other people) would benefit from this. Facebook, like Twitter, is bad for your health when used for anything other than keeping up with distant relatives. Unfortunately, in the process of keeping up with distant relatives, you are force-fed Leftist agitprop as part of their psychological warfare campaign against Western Civilization. So, you’re really just better off without it.
My family switched over to mewe.com. It’s free. Yeah, it’s run by some rich Libs, but there are no ads, no force-fed politics on my news feed, in fact there’s nothing at all other than what my friends and family post about. I can still use it to access news sites, but it is a different pipe that is not mixed in with my day to day life, and I pick what sites I want to see (e.g. Babylon Bee). At first nobody really used it because they’re all stuck on Facebook. But I’ve noticed they’re using it more and more as FB becomes less of a habit.
I’d like to see Australia ban facebook.com entirely just to see what would happen. This could serve as a model or test case for conservative Governors in the US to decide whether or not they are going to allow Facebook to do business in their states.
DeSantis may defecto beat Australia to it.
Yep, that’s what I was thinking as I wrote it.
Welp, the US has prided itself on being a beacon of freedom and liberty, but as that beacon is now being extinguished here at home, we’re going to need some friends abroad to set the example for us, like Australia. Europe can provide this as well. Big Tech and their CCP allies have decided to impose CCP-style media control, censorship and civil liberties nullification on all of us. They helped the CCP create these tools and methods, and now they’re being deployed on all of us. It’s a dark time.
We have a long road ahead. We’ve sat around and watched the Uniparty amass power even as we voted for it, and when we finally struck back with MAGA, they had grown so bold as to create a Plandemic and steal an election from us. We can’t blame anybody but ourselves for this, because we voted for the swine who did it. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Our enemies hold all the high ground, and ethics and the law mean nothing to them. It’s hard to be joyous right now, and that may be our greatest struggle, remembering that God is in charge here.
Gab and Mewe will welcome the influx of Australian users.
That’s pretty blatant punishing censorship. Why anyone would bother with fascist book is beyond me.
Justin, “fascist book” I like that, good name.
What insanity. I hope they destroy FacePlant for this.
Where is our former Cultural Attaché Sir Les Patterson when we need him?? ☹
I’m follow several YouTube conservative stations in Australia. This less than 3 minute video gives their take on it.
Social media is a DARPA run, mind control operation using STOLEN Leader Technologies patents for scalability and Silicon Valley, soy boy kings installed as puppet corporate leaders. Zucky never wrote a line of computer code in his life, review at > Aim4Truth(.)org
Limit communications and falsely deny allegations at the same time?
Facebook, Cuomo, Lincoln Project, FBI, DOJ etc.
Never ends well.
I am surprised that Facebook has not been banned by Australia, but maybe today.
I am thinking there are some percentage of FB users that continue to use FB as it started out, a family/friend connection platform: “Look at junior, so cute”. Those that care not about using it as a news source. I think part of the FB calculus is that the govt’ (applies to USA as well) does not really want to cut off those people in spite of the rest.
For what it was at the start – for those who liked it – FB was a good product. The expansion into business web pages, blogs, news, goto centers of information… not so much. Sure it’s ‘free’ to the user, but nothing is free. If I was to start a business I would much rather pay the fee to have my own site. Those who use FB for this are, IMO looking for the free lunch without putting in effort.
One solution would be to define the difference between public FB spaces and private ones and then treat them differently. Joe and Sally can share their newborn with relatives/friends nationwide in a private space. Henry’s mobile dog washing service gets added regulations on how FB ‘manages’ public pages to assure all are being treated equally and within the gov’t laws on fair/equitable treatement, free speach, defamation, acceptable/unacceptable public displays…..
Facebook is just another part of the beast, and if your on it, your part of it.
Well Facebook may find plenty of pushback on this, not just from Australia but other countries and entities.
Let’s see here…
March, 2020:
“Facebook is being sued by Australia for up to $529 billion over the Cambridge Analytica scandal — nearly 5 times what the company brought in last year” — Tyler Sonnemaker , Reuters Mar 9, 2020, 1:48 AM
https://www.businessinsider.com/australia-sues-facebook-alleges-breach-of-user-data-2020-3
December, 2020:
“Australia sues Facebook over user data, echoing U.S. antitrust case” — By Byron Kaye
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-facebook/australia-sues-facebook-over-user-data-echoing-u-s-antitrust-case-idUSKBN28P36L
“…seeking an unspecified fine from Facebook for promoting a virtual private network as a way for people to protect their data, while secretly using the information to pick targets for commercial acquisitions.”
Perhaps Facebook isn’t taking exception to Australia’s news outlets, but instead engaged in blackmail? Just a thought.
Why is anyone surprised?
If you don’t know (I know many here do know), Google and Facebook designed their monitoring and censuring algorithms for the CCP. The CCP told both companies they are not permitted in China because of the free dissemination of info. They wanted the ability to restrict and monitor info to track the information to its source. Both companies did this and designed the AI to carry it out. Low and behold, China has no FB, nor does it have Twitter; they have identical platforms with Chinese names controlled by the CCP and run by Google and FB.
Where do you think the RED Warnings on posts have come from? This was first used in the CCP programs and refined with success. In China, they will intervene on the platform and warn you that if you don’t fall in line, you will be visited…..I have counterparts over there I work with…some don’t mind having conversations when alone, especially if they are not a ccp member.
All Google and FB have done are utilize that technology on FB and Twitter behind the scenes. Where
Sorry….I was editing and my son had a question and this was no longer in the edit timeframe:
What I find interesting though, I will use an area near where I live: The North End and East end of Hartford are known high crime areas. You can go through the yearbooks of the three/four highschool supporting that region and look up the students on Facebook. You will eventually find the G’s (gang bangers) because they broadcast it all over their pages- and most are public. They flash their drugs, their guns, their money, they show videos of their fights……Yet, no one ever gets in trouble. You can do the same for any area with know activity like that- I’m sure you could in the trailer parks of Kentucky and the backwoods areas of GA, AL, or LA.
But, you say something wrong about a protected person….you will get turned in and have people at your door.
If you want to be impotent, you have look impotent. Congrats Fakebook.
President Trump should START a NEW Internet, JUST for Conservatives!
You HAVE to produce a Conservative Voter Record or a Membership in a Conservative Organization in order to be able to use it! Just like a Driver’s License to use the Internet! This way, there would not be any problems identifying WHO is doing the criminal activity.
IF the “originators” of the current internet had strict rules in place, that you HAVE to provide ID to use it, the “hiding behind anonymity” criminals would not be a problem. Of course, what did you expect from “Acadamia” that the Military tasked to develop their invention for public use?
With Trump’s 80+million followers to launch it & the numbers of like-minded people around the World that would want to use it, he could have a platform for his messages!
Tyrants sow their own demise. Give Mark Zuckerberg enough rope and he will hang himself. He whom the gods would destroy they first drive mad.
Today I read that the Australia government is still in talks with farcebook. Disappointing.
Australia needs to ban farcebook and make their own similar platform.
I think its all pretty funny (and excellent). FB, just ‘deleted’ over 20 million (cashed up) potential customers. Australia may be a small population but the living standard is not too shabby. As China knows, a pretty strong middle class is worth ‘all the boats in China’, over a nation of poverty. FB are a bunch of idiots. All they and the “Twits’ are doing is cutting off their noses to spite their faces. Oh that’s far too many cliches but due to their extreme arrogance they are marching straight into the dictionary of ‘cliches of stupid humans filled with hubris, who sign their own destruction’. (See Cuomo right now).
A little poke from the government, but let the ‘free market’ sort the rest out. If you spit on your customers – (especially a nation founded on convicts), they will throw you in the trash pile and find someone who will not. Hence the hubris has made them (tech drongos) blind.
Over a decade ago I had Facistbook for 2 weeks. On the tenth day, I got a friend request from my cat. It seemed that 5 years earlier my son and I created that to send a letter from our cat to my wife demanding more wet food and more outside time in the dark.
I then realized they were reading my files. It took me three days to make sure I have deleted every file associated with this virus off my computer.