The House Impeachment Managers filed an 80-page legal brief [link to pdf] to present their case for an article of impeachment against President Trump.
Essentially, the politically determined democrats are using the power of the state to try and block President Trump from holding public office again. Their brief is long on process and short on substance. Lots of table pounding.
In response to the House Managers, the President’s legal team also filed a brief. The much shorter 14-page rebuttal [pdf here] is the basis for the Trump defense.
Here’s the House Trial Brief:
Joe Xiden got more votes than any other president in U.S. history. What are Democrats so afraid of that they have to wall off the entire Capital and recruit thousands of soldiers to protect it?
It’s the 80 million pissed off Trump supporters that will tolerate the bulls-t for only so long. Keep pushing us at your own peril.
They are all afraid that we will see the next BIG STEAL, and the next, and the next, and so on. They have BIG PLANS to eat a lot of cake. But they know their time is short, so they plan to gorge themselves quickly, in the hopes that we do not notice.
Like when your kid gets into the Halloween candy when you aren’t around. 😉
Don’t want any interruptions while you TOTAL the country.
Can someone refresh me pls?
What happened to the last impeachment?
Did it go to Senate trial and voted down?
thx
Nevermind, looked it up, this quote is from Wikipedia
“On February 5, the Senate acquitted Trump on both impeachment articles, as neither article obtained the support of a two-thirds supermajority of senators. Fifty-two Republican senators voted against the charge of abuse of power, and all fifty-three voted against the charge of obstruction of Congress.
“Mitt Romney became the first U.S. senator in history to cast a vote to convict and remove a President of his own political party from office.”
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time
Well, if that was going to happen it would have happened already! The jan. 6 peaceful protest was not what it takes. They had the chance and now it will take an army. And I am not talking an army of people!
They want to pass amnesty for the 40 million illegal aliens in the Country.
I’d like to see Obama asked whether it was Biden’s greater charisma and eloquence that resulted in Biden getting more votes than Obama.
Stevie Wonder could see that this is a total scam.
If he weren’t a woke, climate crisis zombie he might.
Yeah.
Interesting breakdown of election shenanigans by Robert Barnes –
https://vivabarneslaw.locals.com/post/403084/in-defense-of-trumps-election-contest
Sorry, but enough with election “shenanigans”
Election FRAUD
Thanks in advance
I prefer TREASONOUS COUP, myself. ??
Excellent. Well worth watching. Thanks for sharing.
I know the regressive illiberals changed all our language and all, but here in the TreeHouse you don’t have to fancy it up, you can call it what it is
It took President Trump’s term to show me how evil DC is. The only way to resolve this issue is for everything “to be taken down to the studs”…as President Trump once said. Our government and elected officials are truly evil. Molon Labe.
Even the ground is going to have to be decontaminated.
Like after a toxic waste spill.
And salted!
No… not salt. DC is beautiful. There will be no flowers, trees and grass if its salted. I love our Nation’s capital. I want it to be healthy and respected again.
We, the USA, are humiliated in front of the entire world. We look like a petty, dictator police state… that can’t even run an honest, legitimate election. It’s embarrassing, shameful and heart breaking.
It is a shame that for years the very thing that we have appealed to that august body, the UN, recognizes us for the sham that we called an election. The mere fact that HR1 of Nancy’s first year of the 116th Congress set up the country for mail-in voting should cause a chill to rush up even Chris Matthews’ leg!
hr1 will be the icing on the cake for the socialists. They already seem to think they have it made and they more than likely do!
To me..yes, Heartbreaking. The complete worship of Evil in DC is also maddening!!
Please Lord, heal Our Nation. In God We Trust.
Won’t have to worry about DC in the not so distant future after Iran drops a nuclear bomb on it as it is the symbol of America, it will be destroyed, brought to heel, and a mosque built over top of the rubble.
Two more in the bin. I made a few “tweeks” to the list…let’s see if it helps. 🙁
This is a good job for all of those West Virginia Coal Miners who will soon be out of a job. They can “reclaim” the politically foul land that was once our nations capitol.
Hmm… I didn’t know PT said that everything in DC would need “to be taken down to the studs.”
He, of course, was right… but here we sit. ???
He said it about renovations in the White House. It is in the interview when President Trump said “we found gold in those walls” – many speculate it was a hint about there being wire taps or monitoring or recording devices in the walls/Sheetrock. Someone chime in on this. Sundance has an article back in 18-19 about this.
Those walls should be lathe and plaster over the lathe. No drywall when the WH was rebuilt after the Brits burned it during War of 1812.
“everything “to be taken down to the studs””
Good, let’s take down some walls and remodel DC with an “open” concept.
Well-stated Samwise163!!!!
We are totaly screwed if we don’t.
I’m afraid that you are right. I had no idea just how evil DC is until President Trump allowed them to expose themselves. I believe it is beyond redemption, and must be completely leveled.
I’m waiting for the Democrats and Never-Trumpers to say one thing that’s actually true.
It’s gong to be a long, long wait then. Easier to watch grass growing. 😀
I’m waiting to see their faces when the Conservatives retake the House and Senate and impeach Bubba, Barack and Joe. They are laying the groundwork as we watch them go through this ridiculous ploy. They obviously don’t know about payback do they?
None of that will happen! They will make sure of it. And we won’t do a darn thing about it…again.
What different voting system are we Conservatives going to use to do that?
I don’t understand how Treepers don’t get it that elections are over, finished, done. There will never be “winning back” anything. This one was the hill of hills. Trump should have sent national guard to impound ballots and machines in all swing states and refused to leave until all were rectified.
We are now in a Marxist state. They are stripping down the facade of what was, daily. Even SCOTUS wouldn’t act if/when election fraud is presented to them. They will fold like they did for the Texas lawsuit.
Texas’s response to Biden killing oil and throwing open their southern border is very sane:
TEXIT. Godspeed, Texas!
Satin has a hockey team waiting for the same thing.
If the stories are true I am a bit confused.. It said that the legal team of lawyers that Lindsay suggested resigned because POTUS wanted to present evidence of voter fraud and they didn;t so they left. Yet the new team is not presenting any evidence of Voter fraud? so did POTUS change his mind. why did the other team leave but this one did not? this one is not presenting evidence of Voter fraud?
You are basing your question on published reports… I suggest not doing that.
Yes, I thought the pedigree of the original team ran from very swampish to lib.
While I too want to see the evidence of election fraud brought to the attention of the country, Trump can be defended without having to bring that forth. Please keep in mind that there are still some court cases pending and there is still a chance that the evidence will be presented and addressed.
I don’t see John Boy allowing that to happen at the SCOTUS. Remember he is total Swamp, picked by Hillary/Joe supporter GWB with the blessing of CIA in the blood daddy. The judges don’t have any interest in anything that involves Truth, Justice and the American Way!
I had also at first hoped the voter fraud evidence in it’s entirety would be laid bare and I certainly don’t know more than what is posted. I can see that the unconstitutional nature of this senate trail for one not is office must be addressed first. Pelosi and house Dems look like idiots for even going through with this asinine miscarriage of justice. She must have really been frightened and rattled by the multitudes in Washington DC. Great You tube video posted below. This will fizzle because it’s a farst, I think. I imagine President Trump is wanting to get the fraud all out in the open but has to make sure he is cleared of the ridiculous accusations. Watching it proceed.
In addition to the … unanswered … legal question of WHETHER an impeachment trial of a former potus is even Constitutional…. this is, IMO, a simple 1st Amendment right to free speech, particularly political free speech.
Without direct incitement, i.e., “go to the Capital and riot, break down the doors”… this charge againat PT of “inciting an insurrection” is frivolous b/c it requires… interpretation.
I was talking to a Dem yesterday. I said PT said nothing that incited a riot. I heard the speech at the time & it never crossed my mind he was encouraging ANY violence at the capital… and that’s true. Never crossed my mind.
She said: “you knew what he MEANT.” What?! No, that may be what YOU think PT “meant” now, even though u did not even listen to the speech then… so we will never know IF you would have said, at the time, b4 the “riot” began… “Hey, the President is inciting violence at the Capital.” 99.8% chance that, AT THE TIME, you would not have believed Trump was inciting violence with the words he used either.
We cannot… try people for things we presume they MEANT but did not, in fact, say or do.
Its actually scary to hear Americans say (and think) that.
They are doing it, insane as it is, because they have nurtured “Hate Donald Trump!” in their witless base, and they are merely pushing (hard) on that button to “feed” that base.
Donald Trump is the Leader of their Enemies, and to destroy him is to destroy their enemies (in the childish, Insane Left mind). When politics turns to tyranny, that’s when the killing starts, and killing always leads to mass killing, in politics…When you’re a “politician” — a “statesman” (HA) — that’s what you do… They are merely practicing being Mad Dogs, for they can see what’s coming (their bitter, bitter end, ultimately) as well as anyone. The same thing overcame the Incas, Aztecs, etc. who all simply dissolved when faced with the European Warrior-Explorers, in the early 16th century — they all EXPECTED their fate.
There is a strategy here. The defendent does not bring up additional issues. It only responds to those presented. Once Swallwell makes the mistake of trying to bring in “evidence” to support his bogus claims, he opens up the defense to a whole host of rebuttal evidence. Even then, it has to be carefully presented to not go into additonal areas that give Swallwell other avenues to pursue and prolong the absurdity.
The end result here is known. All 50 Dim Senators including the crooked “Judge” will vote to convict, remove, and disqualify. 45 Senators will vote to acquit, and 5 dumbasses will vote with the corrupt side to convict. So if acquittal is already known, it would not be wise to play around and create a problem. Get the acquittal and move on.
Nancy can gloat about a twice impeached president but history will show her in a bad light for doing so, especially since he was acquitted both times. That also means not guilty of what they charged him with. She will be the fool in all this in the end and will atone to her maker. Trump will continue the greatest political movement in the history of the country.
All this stuff about proving erection fraud is moot for this proceeding and Trump can pursue that at any time of his own choosing.
Sorry to correct you. We know 50 D will vote to convict. we know 5 RINO’s will vote to convict. How many remaining R’s will vote to acquit, is unknown. Maybe 45, maybe much lower.
45 of the Republicans voted in favour of a Rand Paul motion to completely dismiss the impeachment as unconstitutional, which strongly suggests that they will vote to acquit as well. (Though you’re right that we can’t be 100% sure until the actual vote.)
[ Source: https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/only-5-gop-senators-vote-saying-trump-impeachment-trial-is-constitutional_3672649.html ]
Swalwell brought this up or his Chinese lover held him “hostage” until he did?
here’s a question: what are the rules of evidence?
they’ve been telling us that this is non-criminal in nature—that the terms ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ means whatever we wish it to mean. This is merely political, no?
In that case, Let ‘er rip. Appoint a congressman to represent Trump’s position, utilize his immunity for statements, and say anything he wishes. Who cares. Stipulate from the beginning that this is a sham, and treat it thusly. Ridicule everything.
I’d have Matt Gaetz run the whole thing. Let him have fun with it.
You forgot Mitt, Susan, Bozo Ben, etc.
Probably Trump has been told, get this out of the way, then find a venue to hear the fraud claim. No point now really other than to confirm that it was stolen by numbers of votes. But he should have dropped the EO and let the chips fall where they may We might be at war but not under bidens thumb.
Whether the evidence is admitted at trial is a decision for the trial judge, and the trial judge ain’t a MAGA guy.
If Trump is called to testify, he should just go ahead and blurt it out like Mike Lindell on Newsmax. What could it hurt?
On Bannon’s War Room yesterday, they said Schoen is refusing to prosecute fraud or the election itself, and wants to follow technicalities. Ridiculous. The Dems already know they won’t get a conviction. They simply want a weeks worth of political theater to trash Trump, after which they’ll say he was guilty but for procedure.
This sham clearly isn’t about legal process. You fight political theater with political theater. Trump’s legal team are going to win the battle and lose the war. Dumb. Apparently Trump knows this, but can’t find lawyers willing to do what he, the client, wants.
Go back and watch Jason Miller address that issue in his interview that Sundance posted yesterday.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/02/01/jason-miller-discusses-next-week-impeachment-trial-with-david-asman/
Trump has raised the issue of voter fraud in his Answer. It is raised when he responded that he had a First Amendment right to Free Speech to talk about the questionable changing of laws by local judges and officials under the pretext of COVID, and the election outcome as a result. As such, it can be brought up during the trial, if the prosecutor goes after him on those grounds.
Tell them as little as they need to know.
Keep them guessing. Ike knew.
So far the people who talk a lot seem to be speculating. I wouldn’t believe any of it.
Weak, weak response. Law school 101 at best. Where does Trump come up with these losers?
Here in Wisconsin, a conservative lawyer came forward and said that law firms were being threatened not to take the election fraud cases. They wouldn’t get much business in the future. You can bet that a lot of lawyers are avoiding these type of cases.
We are suffering from a lack of good, brave men.
This is why they built a fence. This is what scared the hell out of them.
And they know that the Washington gathering of hundreds of thousands is but a sliver of his actual support. The swamp knows they have no numeric matching force in either volume or passion.
That is why they are shaken now and foolishly castleing up away from actual constituents. They know that when their fraudulent acts are fully outed there will be no forum to protect them from us replacing them with legitimately elected Americans.
And remember, this was after he “lost”…….
He didn’t lose.
THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN!
That’s what the quotation marks around “lost” MEAN…good grief.
They are terrified that someone will suggest a “redo” of the tainted vote. There is no way that in a fair and honest election Joe and Kamala can come close to Obama’s lowest numbers much less make Barry look as unpopular as they allegedly have.
I don’t believe for even one second that the number of people there that day was anywhere near “hundreds of thousands,” it was more like a couple million people. All we have to do is remember how “they” skew numbers — especially ballot numbers — to know how wrong the count that day was.
And before the rally when we were here talking about who could and could not go, it seemed we all knew that for everyone going to the rally there were 100 patriots behind them cheering them on.
You are right, the swamp knows they have nothing compared to the silent majority that quietly watches what is taking place.
As a scientist, I would like to know the actual number. I notice the MSM didn’t even try to provide that, and sought to minimize it.
And we should keep them very afraid of us.
I do not recall seeing any overhead video from that day. Now maybe just anyone could not do it because of area restrictions but I suspect there is government video that could be legally obtained.
I believe on this one, he rolled his flag up and tie wrapped his phone to the end. Amazing video. I too would like to see a video from above, I saw at least one helicopter circling.
We can and will do it again whenever our President calls on us.
THANK you, Deplorable Texan !
~>Proof that there was a whole lotta L.O.V.E there on January 6th 2021❣❣❣
Wow Texan, thank you for posting – I think this is one of the best videos I have seen of the crowd.
And 100% reason for the fence and why they are scared to death.
That’s a Very Beautiful View!!!
It’s the best video I’ve seen so far, that really captured the magnitude of it.
Agreed. Best view of part of the crowd that’s shown up so far. Been looking. Thanks!
Beautiful. Thanks. Hope it goes viral
This is near where we were standing… what you don’t see is the 52-acre Elipse in front of this position. In other words, this is only PART of the crowd.
Same direction I was in, except we were about 5 rows from the fence around The Ellipse. Was a glorious sea of red.
Thank you for posting. I really needed this today. Unfortunately, I’ve had to deal with serious retribution since I lead a busload there. Caused a number of days I’ve been reduced to tears since then.
I live in Greensboro, NC which is the location of the infamous Battle of Guilford Courthouse that was considered one of the most decisive battles in the Revolutionary War. Although the battle was lost, it was considered the battle that lead to victory at Yorktown.
It was the first National Military Park (1914). Among the many statues are that of General Nathanael Greene and a “Founders” statue where three of the signers of the Declaration are buried there (Hooper, Penn and Hewes).
I went over there today and apologized to all of them. I now realize what they meant by Sacrifice.
And, yes, I’d go to D.C. all over again despite what has happened since then.
I am so sorry you are having to deal with serious retribution, PatriotKate. There are a lot of stupid and willfully blind people around, and it sounds like you have an abundance of them where you are. I do too, but I’m old and purposely not on social media so no one pays any attention to me in socialist Minnesota.
Well, two of my husband’s sisters dis-owned us after hearing we were at the rally on January 6th. One of them said she was “broken hearted” knowing we were there.
Brokenhearted? There’s some stupid reasoning going on there!
I’ll be praying for your peace, comfort and protection from ugly people and ugly words, PatriotKate, and will smile remembering a fellow Patriot from North Carolina brought a busload of friends along for the grand adventure!
Yea. The worst part is I’ve been banned from my twin 17-month old granddaughters by their wacky liberal mother, just because I went to D.C. My son is helpless to try and change it. We’re working on it. And, my brother called me a domestic terrorist. Sad.
Hubby, three friends and I were standing near by, too! I was wearing a bright yellow vest with TREEPER written on it, but with all the people there I didn’t think I’d actually run into another Treeper. Bummer, now knowing there were at least two of them close by!
And I was going to say the same thing about location and the number of people that were there.
We were standing on the Washington Monument hillside, with the Ellipse over to our right, which is where the stage was set up for President Trump to speak. All the people seen in this video were on the hillside and sloping down to the street, and the Ellipse was to the far right. Plus, as far as you could see down all the streets they were packed with people also.
What I loved seeing, that I have not seen captured in any photos yet, is all the “People Ornaments” in the trees! I loved seeing all the trees down at the front decorated with colorful hats, jackets, flags and banners held or worn by many, many people who’d climbed high to see our President. It was super sweet to see!
And when we walked down Constitution Avenue to the capitol I noticed the two streets on either side (that ran parallel) were also loaded with patriots walking in the same direction. I don’t know how many people “they” say were at the rally, but it had to be millions — not whatever bogus numbers they made up.
I can’t stand how January 6th is now being called insurrection day. BS. We were called to be peaceful and we were peaceful. Insurrection day? Whatever.
Something beautiful and strong and essentially loving has just gone underground.
Thank you for posting that!
If this group wanted to insurrect, AOC would be dead right now and Pelosi and Biden in jail. The National guard would have had trouble securing the capitol from a million person march.
Holy s**t! That is the BEST video I’ve seen yet of the most MAGAnificent rally of all time.
THanks for posting.
How is it that in this video, from 30:10 to 35:00, there is one to be seen except the actors, as if it was filmed at 5AM? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIw7uqBGvjk&feature=emb_logo
OMG! More people should see this spectacular video! Yes, “…scared the hell out of them.” Thank you DT!!!!
Wow – truly makes me even more sad at how this turned out!!
So grateful for a measure of their panic.
Another Clown Show In the Banana Republic
Sad thing is we get to pay for this.
Petty little pissants must be very scared….
Hey Commie scum…I got your unity right here….
First, Trump shouldn’t even respond or show up for this episode of political theater. Serves zero point. It’s illegitimate and showing up just lends some legitimacy.
Second, the desired goal is to keep Trump from holding office again. Here come the downvotes, but he shouldn’t be in office again. His time has passed. Time to find another America First candidate and support them. It’s more clear each passing day that Trump is either controlled opposition or just not up to the tasks he laid out to get elected in the first place. This isn’t what treepers want to hear, but what he didn’t do far outweigh the accomplishments he did achieve. AND the things he didn’t do is why we are here today under the thumb of an illegitimate regime. To wit:
I realize this is an unpopular take around here, but if you’re going to lose the biggest battles and seemingly on purpose, you don’t have my support. I’m America First and Trump isn’t taking us to the promised land any time soon. Prove me wrong.
You never have gotten it then. Never. It was never about Trump personally. It was about the fact that the ONLY ONE in DC advocating for the people was him. I have never seen his shows, never golfed in his resorts. But he did give up a cushy life of riches and comfort and take arrows, knives and god knows what else for the people of the USA in an effort to advocate for us and I think that deserves some respect. All you can ask is what he is doing. I ask “What are YOU doing?” ….
Yeah, I thought so.
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Brilliant how you turn it around on me. You don’t know me or what I’ve do or what I’m doing, so…
Apparently, you didn’t read what I typed. I’m America First. Full Stop.
If you can’t understand my POV, fine. Then do your own homework. I don’t come to my conclusions lightly. Feel free to dispute my points. Maybe without trying to insult me.
troll …
right on. Trump didn’t need ANY of this. And he could’ve turned swamp on Jan 21st , 2017. Had he done so, he’d still be in office. But instead he fought them. And they could only beat him – and us – by censorship and cheating.
Your view is lacking the why. While you can count the things that President Trump hasn’t done, you fail to count the why of it. McConnell kept him under thumb not even giving him option to get a complete team just to name one. Did you know DC was this corrupt four years ago? I sure didn’t and from what I’ve read no one else did. So why fault him when he worked harder than anyone to accomplish an unbelievable task. . All in all he did his best and who can ask for more.
The WHY is they took out Flynn. The ONE person with courage and experience to take out that swamp and rebuild a MAGA coalition. (See my additional comments below)
Trump went it alone against the convention to seemingly leaving the Kurds alone to fend for themselves. That’s about the single time in his admin where he actually got to make a call that had very little chance of anyone subverting it because NO ONE ever thought anybody would try it.
PS: Who really took out Flynn? – Give me a ‘P’.
It took a lot of guts to do what Admiral Rogers did as well.
Obama took out Flynn.
Buraq didn’t like Flynn openly talking bad about ISIS and the JCPOA that enabled Iran.
My view is lacking? My view is well thought out. You, on the other hand, have no response to anything I’ve said.
Here’s a list of things McConnell couldn’t stop Trump from doing.
He didn’t do his best. He did what he could and what he did seems like controlled opposition more than fighting for us little guys.
You play in the confines of Grown Folk Land (death is nothing to order on another) and not in the land of our illusions.
my guess – POTUS was warned that the next bioweapon won’t just give us a cough – so he better play within the rules.
he did better than you did … so stop complaining … loser
You are so full of shit.
It is encouraged on this site that posters do not speak like that to one another. You can get your point across without being rude. Thank you for your consideration of others!
That is some impressive one-way glass you’re looking through!
1) Only because Ric already had Senate confirmation! PDJT outsmarted and outmanuvered McConnel. How often has a relatively unknown ambassador been placed at the head of a DOJ agency?
2) Every order or permission about declass was stonewalled or ignored by every relevant agency!
3) The Executive has no enforcement power. Tell us WHO in the Swamp would enforce that order! Go ahead, we’re listening….
4) Name two lawyers in the District of Corruption who aren’t corrupt.
5) Tell us how you would have gone around the myriad “judges” throwing injunctions at every order he issued! PDJT never crossed Constitutional boundaries like the leftists did!
Who imagined before the election of President Trump just how dirty the majority of the Republicans were? Barnesto, you cannot condemn President Trump for any of those placements except Sessions. That one was a big mistake and one of the few that President Trump made that was readily acceptable to Mitch (think Tillerson, Kelly). The others were the least objectionable of the “list” that Mitch gave President Trump to chose from and not risk total embarassment. It would appear that the judicial nominees all fit into that category as well. The Presidency is not a dictatorship (unless you have the blessing of your allies in Congress which President Trump NEVER did). You seemed to blame him for making all of those choices on his own. Having the Presidency alone will not allow for the cleaning up of the swamp. It will require a major purge in Congress as well as in the White House.
I find the above irrefutable. Some characterizations, maybe I have a nit: controlled opposition. That’s maybe a bit too far.
The office of POTUS requires a coalition of loyalists to follow through on 1 -7. There NEVER was a coalition. T’s great sigh in WH in first public appearance after he won 2016 was the ‘tell’.
“I’m alone but for my family and two close friends.” His second great sigh? WH speech after finding out Abe was stepping down. Lost a like minded world leader and probably one of the few men on earthy who valued MAGA as much as T.
To your point about it’s about who is next…true and the optics of the riot were to threaten anyone with coalition experience from taking off the blinders (AKA Carl Rove types…he was almost there. Love him, hate him on your side he’s helpful. He admitted to voting for T after no filled in candidate in 2016.)
Unpopular you may be but stay relevant and don’t get bogged down. You’re on to what should be ‘next’
I love Trump his greatest achievement was informing us of the depth of corruption that the United States and all of its institutions are utterly corrupt water will not clean only fire. He also brought to the surface all the the deep state actors. However, again and again dropped the ball, didn’t pull the trigger when he needed too and most importantly surrounded himself or allowed himself to influenced by traitors. He took us this far need some other to take us further. Trump was great for what he did do but we some other to do what Trump did not could not do. Don’t get me wrong voted twice for him but Im done with the GOP and Trump still wants to do business with them
There’s no Promised Land outside of Jesus.
Trump accomplished what no other American President got even close to.
The Republicans are cowards and I’ve disassociated myself from them.
In regards to your “unpopular” opinion, it’s unpopular because your statements of “failure” have a false premise to them. Trump is not God. I believe he is far more powerful out of office now.
I find it very interesting that so many are highlighting that fact that President Trump has not spoken publicly since January 20th. What I find even more interesting though is the fact that he remains the subject of the nightly news and utterings from the ministry of propaganda. Once again I ask myself why? Orange man bad is gone, no? Why no daily celebration of the most popular, the most magnificent administration ever to grace the government of these here United States of America?
I do not believe President Trump’s silence is out of fear. I believe it is strategic.
Consider that President Trump is now Mr. Donald Trump without allot of the legal latitude and protections he used have, to speak freely. Now he has to be more cautious and be much more mindful of the advice of his attorney’s.
I think you may be a genius, CountryClassVulgarian!
You strike me as the last guy I want on my side.
Cool, cool. Another commenter that has nothing to offer than a jab.
You assume your conclusions are correct. Bad assumption.
You offered a bunch of opinions. Those opinions were based on a flawed understanding of how a president, and the office of the president operates. I don’t care to waste my time responding to arguments and opinions that flawed at their core.
Those who will not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
you offer a loser attitude is why …
You post trash every day.
You do make many fair points.
Can’t prove you wrong yet. IMO, Trump can’t do/say anything– per his lawyers– till after this impeachment scam is over.
Re: all 7 of your points, I believe that they represent the opposite of WHO Trump is, and has always been. In other words, in all 7, Trump was NOT being himself… which often indicates there may be some … strategy afoot.
The fact that we r sitting here today in the hell Biden is building for us… may well prove u correct. Still, my instincts tell me … this ain’t over yet. For SOME reason Congress is SCARED of Trump… and the armed National Guard roaming around DC … is inexplicable… as well as outrageous.
Thanks. Not sure how I’m proven wrong here, it was commentary on what he didn’t do. He can’t go back and change the past.
As for impeachment, I stand by what I said. He shouldn’t even show up. All that does is bring legitimacy to an illegitimate hearing.
you have a lot of good responses from others.
No one has mentioned, however, the fact that President Trump ran as a third party candidate in 2000. He dropped out once he realized it was not a path to winning.
Not sure why he would try that again.
Also many states including NY have very strict rules regarding other political parties. NYS is also working on increasing those rules right now. You basically have to be an R or a D. so, maybe not a good strategy.
If you are going to take on The New World Order, the deep state, Silicon Valley, Hollywood, and the media, you have to throw some major leather. President Trump did not land enough haymakers.
President Trump could have used the Insurrection Act to place cyber engineers inside the monopoly internet companies. He could have “reassigned” the top 1000 people in the FBI and DOJ, and hired 2000 fire-breathing conservatives. He needed to ram the wall thru faster. Lastly, and this would be extremely ballsy, he needed to use the Insurrection Act to hush the media who were inciting riots.
your advice is worth what we pay for it … I’m sure your advice for Trump in 2016 was the difference in his campaign …
Lots of armchair presidents hanging around here today.
Only way u r proven wrong is if PDJT… intended… to do most, even all, of the things on your list. I think he did as part of a plan/strategy that is not yet complete or fully known.
The reason I believe that is b/c most/all of the stuff on your list he did do… and it was really dumb to do.
Trump was masterful on the international front… and domestic economic front… but was an inexplicable… bungler dealing with a bunch of … not so smart … bureaucrats and politicians.
Trump did not tell us multiple times he would “drain the swamp” in DC… and then fumble around with NO plan to accomplish that.
His plan MAY well have failed– it APPEARS to have failed, certainly– but I am not sure yet.
It is also quite possible that Trump was threatened: “Either you back off, Trump, or we will kill your kids.” CAN they do that? Yes… they can and many are evil, dangerous and desperate enough to make good on that threat.
From an earlier post by Eric:
My comment to his post:
The final words to this video is why I will never give up on President Trump.
I will fight for you with every breath in my body
I will never ever let you down
The forgotten men and the forgotten women
You’re never forgotten anymore
Me too. I love DJT and want to see him triumph. .. and I want to see our nation triumph too… and I feel like we are waving the white flag of surrender to Communist China… w/out even putting up a fight. Its so shameful.
Kare—There are a few of us still left in CTH, that have 100% confidence President Trump aill overcome this madness.
From your post, I know you also are behind our President 100%.
Drop the white flag and raise “Betsy Ross’s flag”.
Read his book. “The Art in the Comeback”. He’s got us.
I am and always have been, from day one, 100% with Donald Trump turned President Trump.
I had the absolute blessing early in his campaign — while still having 16 other Republicans running against him — to tell Donald in person that I was working for him, and he would never fire me (as a small time volunteer).
When Donald heard those words he asked me how things were going (in northern Wisconsin). I told him things were going very well. He then asked, “And how are we doing?”
To this day I cannot believe Donald Trump, running to be President of the United States and a billionaire, would ask this nobody three rows back in a freezing crowd how “we” are doing.
In a split second I answered, “YOU are doing very well!”, which caused Donald to reach out and squeeze my hand, as if to thank me for my words of encouragement to him.
100% with you and President Trump, Warren!
Raven–I also see your support for our President and confident he will overcome all this.
What an awesome experience. One of those that are cherished for life.
Thanks for the story.
“It’s more clear each passing day that Trump is either controlled opposition or just not up to the tasks he laid out to get elected in the first place.”
To whom might I ask?
“Prove me wrong.”
And so you discredited the rest of your claims.
There are reasons why all the things you mentioned in your post either happened or didn’t happen. They have been discussed in this forum ad infinitum for months and I am not going to take time to do a recap.
What you fail to mention- and this to me is the biggest point of the Trump Presidency- is despite the most vicious and unprecedented, non-stop, 24/7/365 attacks on himself, his Administration, his family and supporters, our President Trump managed to accomplish more for the American people than any other president in the last hundred years.
the dude (barnesto) is a backbencher sniping from the cheap seats … just a troll looking for a rise … a loser …
I agree Seneca. The list of PDJT accomplishments is very impressive.
https://www.magapill.com/
Yes but all being reversed by Biteme in 14 days.
It’s King Biteme to us.
I agree with parts of your post and disagree with others
With the fate of the country and indeed the free world on the line, I would like why he did not go full Lincoln, why he followed Meadows instead of Powell, why he did not declassify a great many things which would have helped fight the corruption of DC, why Assange still rots for telling the truth when FBI agents are not even charged with a coup. In short, I would like to know why he gave up so easily and left 80 million of us hanging in the wind.
troll … leave then …
1 ) hire and fire – we are just learning you fire 1 and a nother is waiting to replace it from the same team. POTUS knew that and didnt waste his time.
2) legal team sucked – Rudy’s got every state legislator team to put a 2nd set of electors up and contect the election. He won his job – You need to Keep up. The corrupt gov told to police to block it, told the courts to deny it.. (Rudy showed us 1776 and to stop chitty chatting)
3) Pardoning Assange and Snowdem means NOTHING – gets us nothing gives us nothing its just extra fire on POTUS for no gain. Pardon Assange – he is epsteins the next second. Parddon snowden you reignite the Russia bullshit that he effective ended already (Even dems barely believe it)
4) Declass – who gives a FCK. – name one thing you don’t know that a declass would tell you?
5) Election fraud – he did fight all the way up until – you were inflltrated and framed to be shot as a terrorist. POTUS has always shieled us from harm and sought another path for victory. Once Pence stabbed the ELECTION TALK WAS OVER – any more talk would of just led to SHOOOT THEM ALL of those terrorist trump voters.
6) don’t need a thirdy party, while you are in the Repub party destroy it or take it over first.. if you fail – go 3rd party.
7) President Trump not speaking publically. — the next words will be a a kill shot after all people are in place. this is was not a Game show anymore.
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White Board- Excellent post, right on.
Man, I pray you are right about number 7 there. Kill shot indeed. It’s what our side needs in spades.
The reason yours is an “unpopular take” around CTH is because apparently most Treepers are far more aware than you of the unusually hostile and disingenuous, deceptive environment in which President Trump took office. That environment included a large number of White House staff, much of the Executive Administrative corps, almost the entire rest of the Executive Branch of government (FBI, DOJ, Dept of State, etc etc.), as well as the entire Republican component of the U.S. Senate, who are charged with approving every new candidate for a senior Cabinet staff position that POTUS needs.
Yours is a tired and worn out, oft-repeated attempt to perform Monday Morning Quarterbacking and criticism based on hindsight and outcomes, caused by a magnitude (both depth and breadth) and level of both overt and secret hostility towards the new President that precious few had predicted beforehand.
In summary, POTUS tried to join their party and reform America to America First… He has now found that the political system is usurped and under managment of a Non-American Entity. He has decided to step outside the system – and confront it from outside.
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not one military leader defended the country or the president (all top positions taken and usurped)
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We are left with We the People. That is it. – to Inspire the workers in the military and government to Quit and Join We the People again.
Every day you come here and take a shit. It’s so predictable.
Dang, and it’s the lasting stench that makes it hard to breathe!
Why aren’t YOU taking us to the promised land if you are smart and have all the answers?
Glad that the fraud was specifically alleged so those cards are in play. I pray the Defense layers in the facts with alacrity and developes the fraud theme state by state as fully as possible.
Procedural defenses are always primary in a civil or criminal proceeding. However, in this odious matter, I trust the 6 state fraud will be credibly and completely laid out so more unknowing citizens can have the scales lifted.
30k republican voters changed parties. That should scare them too!
They are assuming that is Republicans running from Trump. Bailing on the party because Trump is so bad. That’s their spin.
That might be what they’re saying but they know the truth. I imagine their inboxes are full of what people that support PTrump think of them.
Even better that they are so out of touch with the voters. Will make killing them off that much easier.
Only 30,000 out of 80,000,000 ??
I guess the other 79,970,000 are waiting like I am to get a round “tuit”…..
Arrogance makes them stupid—— PRIME EXAMPLE?— Jen Psaki, Miss “circle back” herself.
…..meanwhile, back on planet earth & not all that long ago –
Barack Hussein Alinsky actually invited the BLM punks into his White House, along with Al Sharpton no less, to validate and encourage their demonstrably false and racist narrative about law enforcement which was followed shortly thereafter by a spree of cops getting ambushed and killed, a trend which continues to this day.
And they now have over 10 BILLION dollars to play with. A lot of tech companies gave them loads of money. I don’t think we’ve seen anything yet as to how violent this group will become. I mean, the leader is a woman who put a bomb somewhere and was supposed to be in jail for the rest of her life. Clinton pardoned her, naturally. We are up against people who have no issue with casually killing people.
And if this doesn’t work (as it shouldn’t), Pelosi’s & Schumer’s thugs may just try going the 14th amendment route, citing insurrection.
Meanwhile, Beijing Biden acts like a monarch, throwing tens of thousands of hard working Americans out of work as a result of his royal decrees (a.k.a. Executive Orders).
Can Kackling Kamala be impeached for bailing out BLM rioters the summer prior thus giving them a false sense of security and a mental nudge to become repeat offenders? She wasn’t in office then but he isn’t in office now so …that adds up doesn’t it?
so…just a few points about this shampeachment 2.0
shampeachment 2.0….reloaded..coming to a theatre soon.
ps….the GOP minority aligned with mcconnell will not allow this …but for different reasons this time…and again, having nothing to do with fair justice and sound judgement. They will block the required votes because they understand that an impeachment of President Trump by their votes will clearly end their political careers. AND there is a very real threat that exist that is raging right now with blood shot eyes, pacing around the room, ready to go full godzilla. These people are corrupt as hell, but they are not stupid. They will block the impeachment, and that will be that. end of story.
sidenote: regardless of the senate actions to block, that godzilla isn’t going to be satisfied. There will be justice. At a time and a place of their own choosing. Also coming soon to a live concert !
“that invalidates the entire constitutionally recognized structure.”
But what court decides the proceeding was unconstitutional?
None. There is no judicial oversight, no court to appeal to, of the proceedings.
Kafka’s nodding away, somewhere nearby.
no judicial oversight of a verdict … certainly judicial oversight of its constitutionality …
“There must be evidence that a crime has been committed or an offense that can BE PROVEN that meets the narrow and strict behaviors of a high crime and misdemeanor.”
That may be true in the Republican world, but the Democrats do not care about any of that. That is obvious when every single one votes to impeach AND every single one votes to convict, and they say so before any evidence is presented. They are able to do it because their constituents demand it and the corrupt media will cover for them. There is no accountability for their actions and they do it for power. Amazing not a single one (except Van Drew and Tulsi) has a conscience to say “wait a minute”.
Convicting President Trump in the Senate now leaves Barack Obama laid wide open for Spygate in the future. There is more than ample REAL evidence of his guilt in what is real sedition. Go for it Democrats. Set that precedent now. Etch it in stone. Sit back and wait. It will come and your secondary hero will be tarnished in a way that Hitler never imagined!
Yeah, yeah. We get it dear democrats. You hate Trump. You hate the Constitution. You hate America and normal Americans who love President Trump.
Deplorable_: Senator Blutarsky would never stand for this kangaroo court.
Its not who votes, its who counts the votes.
Its not what the law says, it what those who judge want.
Its not what the facts are, its who is accusing and who is accused.
And those senate Republicans who will decide the issue? Like Ted or McConnell? They said they were in favor of impeachment. Then they voted that impeachment of a private citizen is invalid. It will depend on whether the left thinks conservatives are so pathetic they will still stay with the Republican party even after impeachment or that a conviction as an object lesson is worth any price.
All one needs to do is look at the names listed as house managers to see it is garbage.
Sir! I have a question. President Trump is vastly unpopular, right? President Trump lies all the time, right? President Trump lost in a landslide to the most popular candidate, ever, right? There was no election fraud/irregularities, right?
Why are the demonrats and repugnicans so hell bent and ensuring he never runs for office again? Why are they afraid of this man who is so unfit for office that the American people utterly rejected him on November 3rd? If he runs again won’t the American people utterly reject him… again? Would it not be better to let him embarrass himself for all the world to see?
hehehehehehe
their desperation is on parade
It’s almost as if Trump ran for president and the if election had integrity he would be the winner. But that doesn’t make sense because Xioe is so popular.
Should be easy pickins for Biden in 2024.
PDJT exposed the demrats as the real virus.
Here’s what the legal issues really are in the impeachment:
Can a president be impeached after he leaves office?
If so, did Trump’s words on 1/6/21 actually cause the rioters to storm the Capitol?
First, any litigator will tell you that you pitch to the jury you have. This is not a time for “taking the case to the American people.” This is a trial in front of 100 jurors. Trump already has a 45-vote base on the first issue (constitutionality), and he could go higher. There are senators who didn’t want to dismiss the whole case on a barebones motion to dismiss, but still might vote with Trump on Issue #1 after hearing the legal arguments. I’m glad they brought up the bill of attainder argument, too.
Second, there are going to be severe time limits. Trial judges limit trial days, and appellate briefs have word-count limits (and time limits on oral argument). So a good lawyer has to jettison some arguments or evidence that he’d like to get in simply because there is no space or time. This is also why election fraud really cannot be a central argument – there’s no time for it. It can be a briefly-discussed issue, but the lawyers cannot spend that much time on it when there are stronger ones.
Trump responding by bringing in a lot of evidence on election fraud could also support a House’s twisted claim that if people in the US think an election was stolen, then Trump says violence is justified. The MSM would push this claim, too. You know they would: “Trump says if you think there’s election fraud, you can storm the capitol, trample a woman to death and hit a policeman on the head with a fire extinguisher!”
The Trump lawyers might put in the FBI evidence as to the pre-planning by rioters. (Pipe bombs, Facebook pages, text messages, Antifa infiltration). Trump’s words on the afternoon couldn’t have caused the riot if the rioters planned to do it the day before. Thus, regardless of what Trump said (and his words certainly do not incite a riot), the rioters would have done it anyway. This is a good argument, but not as strong and should be second to the legal one.
The House is also trying to argue that “misinformation” is not protected by the First Amendment. It is, but this is part of the Left’s emerging campaign to make “misinformation” (as they define it) unprotected speech.
The Trump defense in the first impeachment trial was a master class in an expert, focused defense based on the real issues. The House managers were all over the place, with stuff like Deming’s “dockamentary ebbidence” and Schiff’s melodramatic presentations. The Trump lawyers here need to do the same thing as were done in his defense to the first impeachment.
This trial is a show trial farce meant to damage Trump and the MAGA brand, to push more GOP politicians away from Trump, to make any kind of dissent into “insurrection,” and to make any disagreement with the Left unprotected “misinformation” with severe legal penalties. The focus in this trial must be to get as many votes as possible from this jury to acquit Trump, and to move on and fight on
Excellent analysis. May I add, the trial judge is a former Democrat senator, chosen for the role of trial judge by the Democrats. What is relevant and admissible is his call. I have faith in Trump’s trial team to focus on the significant legal issues. Keep it narrow and on point.
Yes, I do wonder about Leahy’s evidentiary and procedural rulings, but even he may be smart enough to see that making blatantly biased rulings could only lose votes for the House managers.
After the vote on the Rand Paul motion, it was clear the impeachment was going nowhere. I’d guess that Schumer wants to get what is now a clusterfark over with and move on to pushing the Biden-Harris agenda. Schumer has a very antsy left flank to placate.
Well said, as usual.
When one looks at things Trump has them where he wants them. No.1 trump has videos of the dems doing what they accuse him of use the damn videos. No 2. Trump has the nations eyes have peter narviro give a presentation backed by video again. Show the truth and watch the dems spit fire while they chit their pants. Video baby!
They won’t be able to keep this up for long. Where is the conservative reporter who will make themselves a total pain in the ass to the administration like what’s his name that is no longer in the WH press corp. … you know, the mouthy one whose name I can’t remember and don’t care to.
The house document reads like mean girls are upset since the quarterback didn’t ask her to the prom.
Idiocracy has taken over. Don’t ask the Almighty for help, I think he’s given up.
“The house document reads like mean girls are upset since the quarterback didn’t ask her to the prom.”
Or like a rejected Adam Schiff screenplay.
Brilliant strategy by Trump’s counsel to respond with an almost boilerplate rebuttal delivered in the most dry of tone. When an opponent waxes hyberbolic, be calm and measured.
From a hypothetical point of view. Let us assume that they win and President Trump is not allowed to stand for Public office again.
There would be nothing to stop him backing his selected candidate , to go out and rally the MAGA crowd, get his candidate into that office. Then act as there mentor to ensure his policies and ideas are implemented
(and I do not mean the candidate has to be a puppet). He achieves his goals without all the stress and most importantly he WINS against the elite and the Democrats.
That is exactly what Obama is doing for Biden.
President Trump could save some lawyer fees with a brief response that is even shorter; simply two letters: F-U.
So the House didn’t want Roberts in the trial! What maneuvering evil they are! So Leary will be judge and jury!!! How is that legal?????
Roberts is not coming because the Chief Justice only presides when a president is being impeached, and Trump is no longer president. Roberts made the decision (which actually helps Trump, because it emphasizes that the man being impeached isn’t in office).
Leahy is the longest-serving member of the majority caucus, and thus is the next up. That makes him President Pro Tempore of the Senate. Apparently he is going to be both judge and juror, which would be unthinkable in a regular trial.
Except for the Judge Sullivan fiasco.
United Banana States of Amerika.
Almost, but the sleazier Leahy behaves, the more votes the House loses. Some of the GOP senators who voted against Rand Paul’s motion said they wanted to hear full legal arguments on the constitutionality issue. Leahy misbehaving will emphasize what a farce it is.
Manchin and Sinema have been mavericky lately – I don’t know know if they’ll buck the party on this one. Any red state Dem senator up for re-election in 2022 might think twice if Leahy goes off the rails.
Good luck President Trump!
We’re with you 100%
Sure, Dems. President Trump tried to mount an “insurrection” by sending in a couple of unarmed goofballs in costumes to sit in Pelosi’s chair and steal a podium.
While he has his million man army standing back as reinforcements in case someone gets told to leave.
Answer 2:
“The 45th President believes and therefore avers that as a private citizen, the Senate has no jurisdiction over his ability to hold office and for the Senate to take action on this averment would constitute a Bill of Attainder in violation of Art. I, Sec. 9. Cl. 3 of the United States Constitution.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I have been saying precisely this in my comments, in I think these exact words, for the past weeks. I should do a search and find them.
Democrats: No, Biden attainded the Presidency, and his first name is Joe, Not Bill.
All seriousness aside, who is going to protect us from things like that? Our elected Reps? They have no power and we don’t really elect them anyway.
That would be useful if we were still bound by the rule of law.
The Supreme Court (read “Roberts”) doesn’t like to wade into matters it considers political. Obamacare? WE elected Obama, and WE elected the congressmen and senators who passed it, so not up the the S Ct to save us from ourselves. Election fraud? WE elected all the state officeholders, or the elected officials who appointed them, who ran the elections, so it’s OUR problem to solve, a POLITICAL problem.
But this … a House and Senate attempting to dress up a Bill of Attainder as an impeachment to go after a private citizen no longer in office to prevent him running again, in direct contradiction of the plain language of the constitution? This is a bridge too far, and Roberts has already telegraphed his displeasure with it by his refusal to preside over this mess. He won’t go near it, so he can still rule on it. THIS, will never get past the Supreme Court. THIS would set a precedent the Court cannot live with.
This is my thinking as well. First, Trump won’t get convicted anyway, based on all current indications. But second, if he did, and still wanted to run in future — if anyone tried to refuse putting him on the ballot due to “impeachment”, he could go straight to SCOTUS and have a good chance that the “conviction” is ruled unconstitutional and void, and have an order issued that he be permitted to run.
I doubt we’ll ever know though, because of the first point.
A sad reality is the senate is the judge and jury.
The trial judge decides what is and is not admissible at trial, and more important, whether there is jurisdiction for a senate trial against a former president. There’s no appeal to a court of the rulings since there is no judicial oversight of impeachment proceedings, other than when SCOTUS CJ acts as trial judge in a senate trial against a sitting president. No wonder DC is walled in.
True, but the House needs 67 votes to convict, and 45 GOP senators are on record as voting the whole process as unconstitutional, pursuant to Rand Paul’s motion, and should not go forward.
45 of which Trump should not be trifling with. Answer specific charges and get your acquittal. No need to convince anyone but more importantly, he may lose some of the 45 if he pursues things like vote fraud or or even free speech.
Take the “w” and get out of there to start working on 2022.
Why would they vote in favor of something they just went on the record as believing is unconstitutional?
Orange man bad syndrome. Many Republicans in the Senate do NOT support President Trump. Their previous vote had no meaning so they could virtue signal following the Constitution, but if he tries to prove voter fraud, they may get angry and let him have it. They could care less about Trump and would prefer he doesn’t run again.
The Demonic DemCong Pedocrat Sodomites are terrified that The Real President Trump wont just quietly disappear into obscurity and stricken from history texts. Actually they are scared to death of we Indispensables- why else have they turned D.C. into Stalag 13? The fear is thick it can be heard almost felt whenever one if those panda eyes speaks. They KNOW they are illegitimate and they know we know.
This is a show of force from the DC SWAMP !!
If Trump mentions election fraud the RINOS will vote to impeach to stop him from being able to run again.
If Trump backs down the DC SWAMP and MEDIA make him out to be a fool and hope WE THE PEOPLE stop supporting him.
If this comes to pass all I can tell you is listen to
AARON LEWIS …GOD AND GUNS and
Hank Williams Jr ….. Country Boy Can Survive………
We also know if the DC SWAMP keeps the wall up around the capital we know where they are and can “vote” them out as needed.
You forgot Aaron Lewis’s Country Boy!! Now 2 flags fly above my land really sum up how I feel
The 1 is the colors that fly high and proud the Red the White the Blue
The other 1 has a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don’t tread on me is what it says and I’ll take that to my grave
Gotta listen to the whole song!!
It doesn’t matter what arguments or evidence or strongly worded letters there are, the outcome is already pre-determined.
This senate-jury-as-judge “trial” will be enough such that some states will refuse to put VSG on the ballot four years from now.
Nothing has to be “legal” any more, it’s just the law of rulers now.
If he’s not impeached, he can sue to get on the ballots if any state tries to keep him off.
I hope President Trump ran this by Patrick Byrne. Just to ensure there was no mediocrity in the response, don’t cha know
Keep it away from Rudy too.
“In response to the House Managers, the President’s legal team also filed a brief. ”
Lou Dobbs just reiterated my position – that PDJT and his legal team should not even show up for this farce.
Guest Jason Miller thinks the legal team is going to go in there and teach them a lesson.
I guess they have not learned anything in the past four years about what has happened to the rule of law in this country, as well as who controls the narrative that most American’s see and hear.
“Jason Miller thinks the legal team is going to go in there and teach them a lesson.”
Showing up the House for starting a this ridiculous farce by having lawyers experienced in constitutional law explain in words of one or two syllables (we’re dealing with politicians, remember?) and shred the House articles into confetti will be far more effective than blowing it off.
Leave the senators (and the country) wondering if the House Dems don’t even know the basics of the Constitution. OK, they don’t, but the best way is to contrast sound legal arguments by Trump’s team with Schiff’s melodrama. Why are the House Dems wasting time and money with this when so many people are hurting from COVID? Schumer knows this is a loser after Rand Paul’s motion got 45 votes, and now probably wants it over quickly.
I also think Trump has to show and defend as a courtesy and sign of respect to the 45 senators who voted for Rand Paul’s motion and basically gutted the House case before it was even presented to the Senate. They greatly strengthened his legal arguments.
There has to be a bigger strategy. Yes, the outcome is predetermined. They are setting the narrative that all Trump supporters are insurrectionists and run on that theme for 2022 while also using it as a distraction from Biden’s inevitable policy fails.
So even when Trump prevails, they have labeled their opponents for specific targeting.
Example, “Yes Trump was acquitted by his fellow white supremacist insurgents including Ted Cruz who tried to kill AOC in the House chamber.”
The corrupt media will spread that narrative and many people will accept it as truth.
Goal – Push 2 words into the guinea pigs and train them to repeat think it
1) Insurrection and not Election
2) Impeachment and not Election
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its all mind control. POTUS has shown us their play- ITS THE SAME ALWAYS… stupid word headline – put in news – pumped into a hearing…
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by March this country will be in a full face punching violent revolt. the anger is so on the surface. You do not steal an election in an intelligent country.
“Leave the senators (and the country) wondering if the House Dems don’t even know the basics of the Constitution. OK, they don’t, but the best way is to contrast sound legal arguments by Trump’s team with Schiff’s melodrama.”
Assuming the MSM is going to “allow” PDJT’s legal team shred the fallacy. The only thing they will air is theatrics from the demonRATS.
“the 45 senators who voted for Rand Paul’s motion”
That is an indication – but no guarantee- on how they will vote next week. Please remember that not a single Senator voted to put the Senate into recess in 4 years, which would have allowed PDJT to make recess appoimnets WITHOUT Sen.Mitch “China First” McConnell’s Swamp Rat seal of approval.
Think that Trump came to the conclusion shortly after the election, that he had accomplished as much as could in the WH. Without much broader support from people in the Administration and Congress, making real progress would be very difficult. The Republican Party needed to dramaticly step up its support and backing. Not going to happen with the Establishment attacking him. However, like everything that attacks Trump the consequence can be fatal. The Establishment Republicans are resigning from the Party in droves. Be interesting who they think will vote for them no matter what they call themselves. Getting rid of these people, who have nothing but contempt for the middle class and working class is the first step in creating a real Republican Party. Seventy to Eighty million supporters is a very formidable group of voters. Will and can the existing Republican office holders step up to the callenge? What role Trump will play in all this? I don’t think knows at this point.
People forget that Reagan spent his first years as Gov. of Calif. getting Republicans elected to the State Legislature. It was then that he could begin to implement his programs. We still have alot of Republicans, particularly at the state levels that simply have no willingness to implement needed policies. They will be forced to now. Also, only one trial where the election fraud is well presented could change the whole game.
In my view this is too restrained, too cautious. It’s Republican small ball. His lawyers are avoiding the issue, which only makes it larger.
I thought Trump’s lawyers did a good job responding to the accusations.
All bases were covered including election fraud, i.e. it is illegal for judges and/or government office holders to change election rules based on “Covid.” Must be done by legislatures. That was a strong statement in the 14 page response.
This exact argument is currently pending in Supreme Court. Many cases are on the docket addressing this very issue.
P.S. how does one put a photo on their profile? Is there a special setting? I am not thrilled with the generic symbol. (see Missouri Mule for example.)
A judge held in Virginia a couple of weeks ago that a rule allowing for the acceptance of late ballots missing postmarks after the voting deadline was illegal.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/01/26/virginia-rule-allowing-late-ballots-missing-postmark-was-illegal-court-rules/
I know Virginia was not a contested state. But, there were many irregularities in the 2020 election in other states as a result of COVID that need to be re-visited by state legislatures moving forward in to 2022.
The only point not raised and worth mentioning in the response is that their evidence based on quotes and uttered word is actually based on incomplete, selectively and out of context phrases and words.
I have thought a lot about this.
Democrats keep talking about convicting Former President Trump of insurrection through impeachment. They keep saying that impeachment of a prior president is constitutional.
I disagree and I think this is where their argument falls flat.
Impeachment is for first and foremost removal from office. This is an Article 2 court. It is a political action not a legal action.
After a person has left office, they become a private citizen again. A former president is nothing more than an honored statesman. He holds no formal office. Thus they are only subject to Article 3 courts. And democrats have been saying for some time that a president is not above the law during or after their presidency.
The text of the constitution is as follows:
Article 1, Section 3
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
The exact wording of that statement directly refutes the democrat’s argument. It says that the president is subject to article 3 courts after removal.
So I read that as once a president is no longer in office, article 3 courts are the proper jurisdiction.
The problem that democrats have is the supreme court already said many times what is protected speech.
Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969)
New York Times Co. v. Sullivan (1964)
Cohen v. California (1971)
And everything he has said that i know of has been protected speech.
Its the behavior of the democrats and liberals, both in Congress and in state governments, that resulted in the Capitol violence. It’s actually THEIR fault. How ironic.
I think this is a very fine response, and bodes well for seeing this abomination fizzle out next week. I think a large number of Senators will welcome the obvious procedural flaws as an easy way out of an ugly exercise. I think it will alienate much of the country as a purely vindictive, hateful attempt by “lawmakers” who care nothing for the law and constitution, and who should be seeking to unify the country, instead of using their authority to try illegally to punish their political opponent.
Like the last one, it will be over soon, and history, and, meanwhile, the Biden Administration’s ridiculous policies and corrupt actions will be more of the news.
From the dog park…. a different view… what if….
So I sit back and I say to my self… if PDT had won the democrats could have given him 4 miserable years like the last four years..
They could have used the fraudulent voter tally programs in 2024 and none of the citizens would have been the wiser.. for practice purpose the Uniparty would have been in a position to finally put Obama in
power. They just couldn’t wait..
So President Trump wants to drain the swamp.. well well well the Uniparty Globalists have all self certified for all us citizens to see…. not only democrats but Rino’s republicans…you see Pence Cruise Romney, Cheney. And more…
So now we have Burma/Myanmar and the coup. Election voter fraud.. the Myanmar Military .. we will hold the fort untill a clean election can be held.. in about one year. straighten out voter I’d.. machines etc… What an example… an open election.. just imagine these Rino’s trying to run again.. having been outed..
So I’m saying this… the Uniparty got really stupid.. they rushed impeachment.. they have an imbecile for a President.. every Obama crook is back in power.. there are no negotiations with congress we se nothing by EO’s . There is an open attack on the first admendment and the second amendment. Both not popular with many citizens…
If we were to have a military coup.. a place holder… for a year..would we need to have the NG to counter obama and the Muslims that were not vetted on purpose into the United States….
I don’t think this is over.. a stupid impeachment trial..for what… do they think we are going to run .. the Uniparty heard the chants.. ‘We love you’
80 million patriots who have not abandoned the president… now that is a problem..
MAGA
Question for those of you much smarter and more savvy than myself on how the swamp works. Do you think they will stop at impeachment, or will they attempt to criminally try him for treason or sedition?
The swamp is famous for accusing and trying the opposition for crimes they’ve committed themselves; since a coup has been in progress since before President Trump took office and the words treason and sedition have been bandied about freely by a number of the Demoncrats, I have to wonder how far they will go to eliminate President Trump.
After all, they deliberately lied about the effectiveness of HCQ treatment and allowed thousands of people to die to prevent President Trump from “winning” after he promoted it early in March. They were willing to kill the economy and all of us “common” people with lock downs and masks that are useless. They are so viscous they allow small business’ to go bankrupt, children to die, open the borders for human trafficking – anything to destroy President Trump and us. How far will they go?
And then my question is, what are we going to do about it? The people in charge are not constrained by the rule of law or equal justice. What do we do now?
think it would be fitting if POTUS 45 just didn’t show
TRUMP WON, Evidence of STOLEN election is massive. What pisses me off are the commie boot lickers in the R party, Mitch McConnell, Ronna McDaniel, etc., slamming Trump for saying it.
Matt Braynard from data integrity identified enough fraudulent votes in the 2020 election which when addressed would overturn the 2020 election results:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/data-expert-claims-team-identified-enough-fraudulent-ballots-georgia-arizona-wisconsin-overthrow-election/
I went to your link, found the “Warroom” video and watched the Matt Braynard part of it.
I have to say, I found Bannon’s long-windedness irritating. Even the great Low Dobbs is bad enough, in taking too long to spit out a sentence these days, but Bannon just won’t shut up, to let actual information come out, to put it bluntly.
From this response from the President’s attorney, it would seem that this Impeachment proceeding was concocted for the the President to state, on the record, several times, that he is NOT currently the President of the United States of America.
Since we all agree that the real insurrection took place on the day he was forcibly removed from his rightful office against the will of the American people in a TREASONOUS COUP, I would argue that he IS in fact the President of the United States of America, and THAT is why they are now attempting to Impeach him.
Talk about adding insult to injury! He, being the genuine POTUS under siege, should then call up the National Guard to defend our Constitutional Republic against the *imposter* now occupying the White House illegally, since the US government has obviously admitted who the actual President really is, in filing this Impeachment proceeding.
He should then defend against all the charges therein, by stating that as a President who is obviously under siege, he has every right to take his rightful place in the Oval Office by any means necessary. In fact, it is his CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY to do so!
The strict proof demand puts the ball back in their court, let’s see if they have the guts to open that door.
Oh, and by the way, how come it was Vice President Pence that ordered up the National Guard to Washington D.C.? Why not Trump, the commander-in-chief? Inquiring minds would like to know.
The ‘Tells’ of the Deep State Poker Players
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/02/the_tells_of_the_deep_state_poker_players.html