A Question presented:
“Why do you think Trump didn’t do much in the last three months including declassifying stuff?“
The answer is simple, yet politically complex. President Trump’s cabinet, specifically those cabinet members feeling a greater responsibility to protect their institutions, would not comply with any executive office requests to declassify material.
This is the dynamic of being an outsider inside a corrupt political machine. The office of the president needs loyalty to the agenda from cabinet members and top operational support. If a compromised person(s) is/are put into high-level position to block or control the outcomes, they will impede any sunlight that will hurt their objective.
Look behind the man. Look behind the office of the presidency. Look at who was making the recommendations to POTUS Trump for cabinet level hires in his administration. Look there and we discover the people aligned with the DeceptiCon agenda.
Does anyone else think it’s time to amend the Senate “advice and consent” clause of the Constitution for executive nominations, maybe to require a 2/3 majority to reject?
Because it seems like that clause was nebulously specified presuming that there would be a certain level of personal integrity and decency among our elected officials…a presumption that has now been proven unreliable.
You have well thought it. Advise and consent meant something much different in 1790 than 2021. It was a term of respect.
In the 1790’s there were men with personal integrity, religious conviction and high morale standards. 2021 there is a limited supply of any of this. In particular all three traits in one individual. One would have assumed the standards for service would have gotten higher, not dramatically declined. Makes the work the Founding Fathers even more impressive.
Thought about many revisions to amendments but immediately let those thoughts go away.
Considering the current political climate in this country there will not be enough states agreeing to ratify any Amendments or changes thereto.
As we have just learned, with Dominion and Leftist volunteers anything is possible.
The constitution means nothing to the Dhimmies. We have a dictator and a people’s republic that is going to institute a check for white supremacists in the military, soon to extend to the public at large.
Its time to declare a full close of the government -and hard discussion what we want this country now
Narrative:
It’s 1776 very soon, or you give us another election that is public, recorded and in the open – no machines, and all voting done in 1 day. no mail in ballots. i dont care at all about covid ( if you are not willing to die for you vote, LIKE US, then you forefeited your vote).
Why would They give us anything?
re -read it…
1776 – we arent asking for anything that is ours.
That’s what the left did over the past 4 years, they were closed and had many discussions behind closed doors about the country going forward in 2021. Republicans slept thru it all.
“Republicans” didn’t sleep through it. They looked at their money sources, and decided it best to protect that greed over what the voters asked for.
Prior to the 17th Amendment, Senators were only elected by state legislatures.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
This should be fixed. Turned the Senate into votes for sale.
Exactly, the 17th amendment and straight party line voting are two important milestones leading to our current situation.
These two actions put the electorate to sleep at the wheel.
As they say “all politics is local.”
You can thank Newt Gingrich for that. Watch HBO’s “The Swamp” to learn from Matt Gaetz how Gingrich co-opted Congress through lobbyist money.
Lobbyists would petition state legislators and pay them for whom to appoint to the federal senate, which is probably why the 17th amendment was enacted.
The way we have it now, theoretically the people have more say with a direct vote that should overcome any special interests.
Also, the 17th amendment was
adopted partly because the state legislatures couldn’t agree on who to appoint, so vacancies occurred.
I agree that the 17th amendment is a major issue. It should be repealed. The general trend over time has been the erosion of state representation in Washington, and state rights in general. The 17th Amendment being one of those steps along the way.
The only way I see out of the current situation is for the state’s to reclaim that power which has been taken from them. And to begin to lessen their dependence on Washington. We should strive to be a union of states, rather the single nation state that we are currently being pushed towards.
CANCELLING/REVOKING the Seventeenth Amendment would be the best thing that we could do short term. In the 19th c there were some “bought” state legislatures (e. g. Ohio’s by Standard Oil) and so that led to a wave of reform efforts, like Woman Suffrage. But it’s a little like our elections being run state-by-state, with no “national” elections agency. Corruption is much more difficult to coordinate when the system is NOT centralized. The Framers of the US Consitution were VERY wise men!
6 states shut down vote counting at the exact same time. Seems to me that corruption must not be That hard to coordinate.MAGA!
Xiden didn’t win. We all know it!
17th should go away, & Term limits should be enacted or passed as a Constitutional Amendment.
Realing the XVII Amendment would likely correct the current situation as well.
Repealing
I think it is way past time to repeal the 17th amendment. Make the senator responsible to the state legislature and defuse power.
The federal senator could enlist his own lobbyist support to pay off state legislators to keep him in power at the federal level. Or, whoever has the most payoff money to buy the state legislature would get the job.
People are dreaming if they think repealing 17A and taking it out of the hands of the individual voter is going to improve things drastically. We already saw how the Republican state legislatures refused to act for a Republican President regarding blatant fraudulent voting in 6 states controlled by Republicans. If you don’t think their lack of action didn’t come about by pressure from the federal Congress, then you don’t know how things work. At least the voter can attempt to make this right at both state and federal level on the next election. With the 17th A, the voter has no say in their Senatorial representative at the federal level.
Repeal the 17th Amendment, which was enacted on bizarre rationale.
More like two thirds to approve. I have never seen more racist’s, radicals, clowns, dimwits, thieves, and traitors than in the Xiden administration.
Patrick Byrne’s Deepcapture site tells the story of this willful sabotage, inside the White House, in great detail.
If I recall, Sundance had previously suggested that Byrne is not a valid source. Just putting that out there.
Whether or not he is a valid source the 3 part summary was an interesting read:
https://www.deepcapture.com/
Mike Flynn, who was with Flynn and Sidney in that Oval and “Yellow Oval Office” meeting, encourage people to read Byrnes’ account. There gave no indication there was any hyperbole or inaccuracy in what Byrne wrote.
Isaac Asimov’s Foundation is an interesting read. Doesn’t make it true.
I do not recall that.
I do recall this….
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/08/23/details-behind-patrick-byrne-allegations-of-fbi-political-espionage/
At least read what Byrne says. YOU can decide what YOU think about Patrick Byrne. You can do this all by yourself.
I have read every word Byrne has written already. And the condescension isn’t necessary.
What goes around comes around RM. SMH…..
BAM, said Ad rem. TY, said wp1.
Read the first part. The comment “if only he had listened to me it would have been a 3-foot tap-in putt” was where he lost me.
I smelt bullshit strongly at that point. Because we ALL know it was never a 3-foot putt.
And the “if only he would have listened to me?” That was the last straw.
Patrick Byrne story = Deep State misinformation.
Byrne admitted he worked for the FBI previously. Yet we are called to believe he was the one person who could have saved PT.
Pull the other.
Byrne invested heavily both monetarily and emotionally. He was not a Trump fan. He was looking for honest elections since 2018. Cut him some slack for seeing it like a businessman not a politician. I found him to ring as honest and he had a valuable perspective. I believe we have a worn and weary Oresident Trump.
President
I agree with you, including PT being tired. Recall he held many, many rallies which must have taken a toll. Byrne surely did not have the information PT had and none of us knows if his & Sidney’s plan was workable. I do think Byrne is telling the truth about what he saw and thinks about it. His portrait of Giuliani, sadly, seems probably about right as well. Only PT can tell us why he relied on RG so much and why he was unable to overrule his own lawyers and handlers.
I agree, ABN, too. PDJT had very few people he could trust. He puts a high mark on ‘Loyalty’ and, at least, Rudy was there for him.
I did have to sadly chuckle a bit when Byrne referred several times to Rudy’s allusions to dead people voting, to boxer Joe Frazier of Philly, voting although he’s been dead for a while.
I do listen to War Room on which Rudy appears a lot, and I must have heard Rudy say that at least as many times as Byrne heard him say it and his aides heard him say it.
Anyone have a guess who “Mediocrity” is. Has to be someone in the WH with easy access to POTUS.
I think it could be Jenna Ellis. He never mentioned her by name, in the first article I read (and only one I have read so far). She was Trump’s lawyer on this case, so why not mention her. If it is her and these things are true…wow!
And he had just had a battle with Covid.
I think Rudy’s podcasts were, to his way of thinking, important because of the number of people reached.
I agree whole heartedly. His patting himself on the back every few sentences set off my BS alarm.
& finally, the elephant in the room is being openly identified. The picture says everything, and we’re not talking about Nimratta.
Nimratta is also a swamp Rat. Just not sitting in the Oval Office like traitor Pence.
The photo is nauseating. I did not want to believe the speculation about Pence. I wanted to believe the Christian beliefs, values, and ideals attributed to him were accurate. But no Believer would have conducted himself – or herself – in this manner during the weeks following the 11/3 debacle. Can you hear us yet, Nikki?
And to think President Trump was very trusting of Pence – believed whatever it was that Pence was selling in regards to General Flynn (the supposed lie), and put him in charge of the COVID task force – which evil people exploited to the fullest – to the grave detriment of this Country and its People.
In some ways President Trump’s Presidency was a tragedy – think of all he did for Us, for this Country, and yet, how much more he could have accomplished without traitors constantly and continuously working on not only agendas adverse to his goals and objectives, but also on the next nefarious plan to take him down. It just makes me so sad.
If in fact President Trump does run again in 2024, he needs to surround himself with HIS OWN, trustworthy people. Senate declines to confirm, have Acting after Acting ready to go.
Anyone notice JoeBama does not seem to be having any issues getting his people confirmed? Yeah, funny that. /s
You do understand that even if the first line of “defense,” those immediately under Trump such as Pence or any cabinet member even if they were loyal to POTUS, would be themselves met with resistance directly under them. That is how pervasive, how broad and extensive is the resistance.
I believe Ratcliffe was loyal to POTUS but that those under Ratcliffe were not loyal to him and so it was, I’d imagine, in almost all, if not all, of the departments.
Simply put, it was like the whole of the bureaucracy was a union and the top of the executive, the POTUS and his cabinet, were the company the union had decided to fight.
Even those who might have felt POTUS was a good President and those who liked his policies would have not supported him for fear of being demoted, ignored, and never promoted.
Yes, all very good points and I do understand. The question though – how then does ANYONE, let alone President Trump, or his supporters, go about changing this situation?
Your example of Ratcliff is a good one and yes, indicative of just about, if not every, agency of the swamp. As we know, in the private sector, insubordinates can be easily fired, but not so in the swamp.
I do think President Trump had a lot of ideas and plans in a second term to really go after the issue of the deep swamp. Recall he – within his last few months – made some sort of change to the classification of certain federal workers so that they could be easily let go.
Ultimately, the problem is the Federal Government was allowed to grow so far beyond its Constitutional bonds that the problem of putting the genie back in the bottle is almost insurmountable.
It’s my thought we need LOTS more pushback from the States – where feasible, reject Federal monies so that Federal control can be restrained, for example. I know, I know, but we need solutions to a seemingly intractable problem.
I only have one answer. I watched carefully how those day traders felt when Big Tech put the kabosh on them.
There’s growing sense that things are upside down, that we’re in an Orwellian world or at least a Lewis Carroll bizarro world. There is ample evidence that no matter on what side of the political spectrum you fall, your freedom and choices are being challenged by those much more powerful than you.
Trust in the media is as low as it has ever been.
I believe there’s going to be an inevitable spark that leads to a conflagration.
I don’t believe we are in control of what happens. I think of how WW1 started. One shot.
Yes, to your final point. We have to wait and see, as of course Trump truthfully pointed out many times.
Getting people to understand covid19 is not a plague, with everyone who contracts it in extreme danger of dying. One local news station (here in Mid-Tennessee) I recently noticed is showing not just numbers of cases in each county, but deaths and also recoveries, and the recovered outnumber the deaths 100 to 1, with typically only roughly 100 to 200 deaths all total for a county, and 20 to 30 thousand recovered. So it’s just a harsh flu, and it only kills the very old and frail (and as CDC itself admitted, only 6% of “covid deaths” have been from covid19 alone, so people who say it has killed “400,000” Americans are guilty of yelling “fire!” in a theatre in which there is no fire; that includes you, Lou Dobbs, shame on you, you’re better than that. It’s not the China Flu either, it was obviously, in the timing and the circumstances (continuous “impeachment” of President Trump), pushed upon us by corrupt Intelligence agents (CIA).
“Think locally” is also good to consider; the tipping point is, as I’ve said before, when people get enlightened enough to take off their masks, en masse. It may also be when the states also “wake up”, and reject the Insane Left narrative of continuous imminent catastrophes if they are not obeyed.
I still see only one or two people besides me not wearing masks in the stores. An ignorant, degenerate people…
So true! I feel I am living in a Zombie Apocolypse movie when I enter a grocery store and I am surrounded by Maskaholics, stupidly and righteously wearing their filthy face diapers, crawling with growing numbers of bacteria and viruses, thinking they are protecting (lol) rather than poisoning themselves with each inhalation and unaware they are poisoning me and others with each exhalation.
Grenell as point man. Punto final.
MY intent today was to bring that up. HOW convenient COVID and the Jan 6th episode HAS ALLOWED JB a cakewalk….EVERY appointee will skate thru. Heard ANY pushback? R’s were likely NOT going to do much anyway, but NOW, it is crickets.
I’m beginning to think Jan 6th served many good purposes for the Dems/Libs and many Republicans. IT GIVES COVER to the GOPe. They don’t have to oppose appointees; how convenient!
Pelosi/Schumer have locked down Capitol forever; fencing, barbwire, barriers….
40+ Ex Orders: ANY opposition from R’s? And IF Trump had issued EO’s tearing away everything BHO had done: THE OUTCRY? From his own party as well.
Jan 6th is forever to be used by Dems to forever destroy Conservatives.
Actually, IIRC, President Trump DID try to use EOs to undo a lot of Obama’s EOs, and to great effect. Here is an article that highlights a few of those accomplishments:
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/obama-executive-orders-reversed-by-trump/
But POTUS ran into a roadblock when he tried to use an EO to undo Obama’s EO that created DACA.
https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/09/06/trump-cant-executive-order-unlawful-daca-existence/
CJ Roberts ruled against Trump for subjective, rather than legal or constitutional reasons. No surprise there…
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-rules-against-trump-administration-over-move-to-end-daca-program
“Acting” will, and has been, challenged in court that they lack the authority to implement policy.
No WHEN he wins. He in NO uncertain terms DEMANDS his picks be confirmed. His picks were hamstrung by McTurtle all a long
That’s why we need a completely new Party or else we lost everything again. One other suggestion that we become ruthless like the Democrats and set out to destroy their party like they try to destroy their opponents.
Or firing people.
meanwhile, POTUS Trump operated with a record number of “acting” persons in position and a record of unconfirmed cabinet positions the day he was removed from office.
He waited too long. If he would have done this when he said he would, possibly it could have come out. Unlikely, but more of a chance of it even happening! The truth is like what was stated, he had very few to back him up. Can you imagine what a success he would have been if he had honest backers aiding his administration! They will not let him run again! One way or another!
Trump handed the declass over to Barr, and we see how well that went. My biggest disappointment was Barr.
Barr was given declass authority for the Durham investigation (or whatever investigation was underway) because the agencies were not providing the documents needed because they were ‘classified’.
This would have allowed the investigators access to the declassified documents based on what Barr determined needed to be declassified for the investigation to proceed. These declassified documents by Barr were never intended to be released to the public by design.
Barr is right up there in treachery with Pence – probably occupying the same potty, where they belong together, for the rest of their sorry lives.
Many had hopes for an honest Bill Barr. I had my doubts from the very beginning. He was a bush establishment critter and he proved to be untrusworthy! Very SAD!
i never believed in conspiracy theories or deep state until obama came along…what a fool i was
As Sundance and others have indicated.
The term Administrative State may be the more appropriate term.
They are hiding in plain sight.
Actually, those who hide in plain sight are at least quiet; our adversaries are out of the closet and screaming, “Ha ha ha, you are nothing and we have control.”
‘Shadow Government’ is another term that describes the powers behind and above the elected and appointed officials that we naively assume run our ‘government’.
The Senate needs to be cut to a 3 year term.
1776,,
anything else and you are just ignored and walked over.
The legislative branch is only part of the problem. It is a Potempkin village, a false front, filled with play actors. Don’t get sucked into their drama. It’s not real. The real power lies with the administrative state and those nameless, faceless, unelected people who determine the “national security consensus” and just about everything else. Why is our foreign policy so consistently stupid? It’s because it’s the same people making the decisions and giving a limited menu of options to whoever is playing the President. As we saw with Vindman, they don’t like it when elected politicians don’t do what they are told. As Schumer says, “they have every which way from Sunday to get you.”
Well put!
“If a compromised person(s) is/are put into high-level position to block or control the outcomes, they will impede any sunlight that will hurt their objective.”
I have my own question – inspired by the authentic (i.e., non-Neocon) Elephant in the national Living-Room:
Why are so few on the right willing to hold Donald Trump accountable for the subversive persons whom he heeded, and appointed, from the very beginning?
I voted for Donald Trump; I did not vote for Jared Kushner, nor Ivanka Trump, nor Reince Priebus. I knew they – and Michael Pence – would all subvert his agenda, in one way or another. (Yeah, I did, and wrote so on Disqus and other forums, for which I received plenty of hateful rhetoric; so forget the “Are you smarter than Trump?” deflection.) I also knew the generals were untrustworthy, after the Obama purge: The ranking brass are UniParty globalists: Marxists or Trotskyists [Neocons].
Donald Trump is a businessman, so he devoted the first three years to building American business. He is good at that, and enjoys it, so that is where he put his focus. He succeeded. Then, because he refused – yes, refused – to fulfill his far less enjoyable promise to Drain the Swamp, the enemies with whom he surrounded himself easily and efficiently destroyed it all with the transparent Plandemic that lifelong apparatchik Anthony Fauci “predicted” in 2017 would plague Trump’s tenure by 2020. (See The Rockefeller Foundation outline on pandemic “Lockstep” from 2010. They have been preparing, even proclaiming, this global power grab for many years. Gates and Fauci have been their known cohorts for many, many years.)
On Sunday, March 15th (The Ides of March), 2020, about 10 PM, when I first heard from the radio of the next day’s communistic lock-down without any due process, I turned to my friend and said, “This may be the end of the United States of America.” I knew it would not end in two weeks – and perhaps might never end entirely. I knew neither Donald Trump nor William Barr would do anything to stop it. I knew that Donald Trump would once again trust the unelected bureaucrats (CDC, NIH, WHO) who impose Cultural Marxism upon us without due process at every opportunity. And I knew Trump’s sycophants would praise him for his restraint, and ostensible respect for States’ Rights: as though the Tenth Amendment supersedes the First and Fourth!
Now, not only are the truly private enterprises in America – Main Street, not Wall Street – decimated, but we have the appalling precedent – on Trump’s watch – of categorical, communistic, lock-downs of the entire populace, without any real push-back from Trump. That diabolically historic abrogation of civil liberties can never be undone. It will be used time after time after time by DemoKKKrats or RINOpublicans to further any and every globalist goal, and We The People will have no recourse – even if there were no voter fraud.
I expected, given his rhetoric, that Donald Trump would begin by firing 100% of Federal Attorneys, as William Clinton – who promised nothing, but pursued agenda – fired 93 of 94 in 1993 upon taking office. Trump did not. I knew in that first week of his administration that we would see continual sedition: some form of coup.
If Donald Trump was, and is, the fighter and winner that so many say, then why do so many on the right feel compelled to defend his every mistake as unavoidable or, worse, ingenious? To assert that he could not have done anything differently is purest sophistry: We will never know. What if he had kept his daughter and son-in-law out of the loop? What if he had put that UniParty Trojan Horse, Mike Pence (who was to Trump what Bush was to Reagan) on a tight leash from the start? What if he had hired real veteran and patriotic lawyers like Kurt Schlichter? What if he – famous for “You’re fired!” – had fired disobedient subordinates in succession, explained his reasons to the electorate, and repeated this process until he found a patriot who would follow orders? (Many have pointed out that he could have used temporary acting officials, circumventing China Mac’s approval.)
Personally, the thing I find the most offensive from persons who espouse conservatism is the accusation of disloyalty. To be clear, I was never loyal to Donald Trump. To paraphrase a truly wise man, Clive Staples Lewis: Loyalty is too precious to squander it on one mere man. Spiritually, my loyalty is to the Lord Jesus Christ. Temporally, my loyalty is not to any one fallen and fallible person, but to the Declaration, Constitution, and Bill of Rights, of the United States of America. Donald Trump was an elected official, answerable to the electorate, and nothing more. I voted for him, and he was answerable to all of us. I was not – and am not – his servant or slave. I was never a Never-Trumper – but I also was never an Always-Trumper. I exercise my First Amendment rights as I choose. Did the proverbial buck stop with Trump or not?
If Donald Trump is unable or unwilling to alter his self-sabotaging “Art of the Deal” behaviors, then there is no hope in vaunting him for any future political action. He would simply repeat the disastrous types of choices we have seen for four years.
“If Donald Trump was, and is, the fighter and winner that so many say, then why do so many on the right feel compelled to defend his every mistake as unavoidable or, worse, ingenious?”
This post is gonna make Boogeystew lose his s**t.
I think the Deep State threatened his family with wet works
That, IMO, is the only logical answer too — these evil, dangerous people may have threatened to kill his children and that may make Trump concede… but I doubt it.
Smarter to use your power to get the evil blackmailer SOBs and put your family under high level security until the deed is done and the SOBs are captured.
You have not paid attention to McTurle’s control over President Trumps nominee’s, nor the overall picture. I appreciate that you wrote a lengthy dissertation, but you would have been better received if you had spent 90% of your time weighing alternative courses of action, 9% of your time evaluating strategic advantage and two words writing.
Perhaps you indeed can’t see the forest;
“What if he – famous for “You’re fired!” – had fired disobedient subordinates in succession, explained his reasons to the electorate, and repeated this process until he found a patriot who would follow orders? (Many have pointed out that he could have used temporary acting officials, circumventing China Mac’s approval.)”
I for one am glad some are speaking up here is spite of the vitriol being spewed at them that everyone should come to the same conclusion that SOMETHING IS NOT QUITE RIGHT.
Why would Trump meet with rino stab in the back McCarthy and talk about !getting the House back next time! And !think tanks! Warp speed vaccines, lock downs, no declass, no prosecutions etc etc?
On another thread “controlled opposition” was suggested and was roundly rebuked. Echo chamber much? Slavish cultism where Trump walks on water and any disagreement the heretics are cast overboard?
Can one not see that Trump had several options that for some reason never materialized to bring justice to this parched land… but didn’t? It was ALL McConnells fault! Really? He could not do ANYTHING? You’re all buying that?
What ever happened to the Sundance axiom, “The truth has no agenda”? Is it verboten to even consider the possibility something is not right with this picture?
I also worship no man but my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I pray everyday for discernment. The cognitive dissonance associated with Trump bailing as it seems now must be examined critically.
After all, the truth has no agenda, but the truth will set you free.
I’m assuming that you’re honestly frustrated like I am at some of Trump’s miscalculations. I probably would have made the same mistakes at the time. Most of us here did not understand the complete depth of the uniparty corruption on inauguration day 2017. At this time it is clear that the uniparty bureaucracy are the problem, not Trump. Why harp on Trump and Monday morning quarterback?
No … that’s too simplistic.
Trump knew what he was taking on — 90%+ when he chose… to take it on in 2016.
WE — in the cheap seats–may not have realized how monolithic the corruption in DC was/is…. but Trump would have known.
As a seasoned CEO, he knows you must not go into the lions den unprepared. If you do, you WILL be devoured.
I disagree. He had no idea how thoroughly deep and corrupt the swamp is. No one thought it was so deep they could steal a Presidential election in plain sight and tell us to shut up and accept it. No one thought initially that the DNC, media, academia, and big tech were wholly owned subsidiaries of the CCP. We knew there was corruption. We did not know that there was only corruption. Remember when the Lord challenged Jeremiah to find one honest man in Jerusalem? Jeremiah was sure there would be at least one.
I’m sorry. We’re gonna have to deal with reality.
Trump knew b/c he’s NOT a child. He knew 90% b/c he HAD to know. You do not say the things Trump said unless you are SURE you “have this” b/c IF u do not, you will be … destroyed.
Trump publically mocked and bated these DS operatives — who are legion. I always believed Trump would win in the end b/c of that.
the biggest problem Trump had was the threat of obstruction of justice hanging over his head. There was no evidence of Russian collusion and he knew he was innocent. If he would have made ANY moves to stop the investigation, fire one person or another-didn’t matter who-then they WOULD have charged him with obstruction. They were just waiting too. Every move he made was met with scrutiny. i’m surprised he accomplished anything at all. Remember the Ukraine phone call? impeachment. Any move he made no matter how innocent they were waiting to pounce. Biden has no worries at all. For everything they tried to do to Trump when it comes to Biden they will look the other way..
Trump didn’t let me down. He forged ahead with everything he promised to do except draining the swamp. i think he was as shocked as i was about how deep it REALLY was. If not for the Conservative TreeHouse there’s plenty i would never have known had they not covered it. The 2 biggest disappointments-a punch in the gut-were Pence and Barr. They were not the people i thought they were.Turns out they were two of the biggest rats and there were plenty. I honestly believed Barr and Pence were these principled constitutionalists who had Trump’s back. If nobody else would stand up for Trump,bring justice and help drain the swamp they would.
Now the Dems are trying to impeach him again.It’s stupid as anything i’ve ever seen them do but they’ll settle for making him look as bad as they possibly can.
Of course the muller investigation was all about obstruction of justice, not about the Russia hoax, and PDJT must have known that very early on.
However, the obstruction of justice case was always a farce, and one that he could have withstood. Congress had requested declassification of documents, how could it be obstruction of justice to comply with that request? How would the House impeach a President, for complying with a Congressional request? The House would be undermining its own powers if they sought to impeach the President for complying with a House request. That would set a very dangerous future precedent, and I do not believe that the House would wish to go down that route.
As a sitting President he could not be indicted before a Court of Law, and again declassifying requested documentation from Congress would appear to be a very strong defence to any indictment pertaining to obstruction to justice.
I am in little doubt that PDJT miscalculated on this issue, I dsaid so at the ime, and foresaw that in failing to release the declassified documents, the House would be lost to the Democrats.
I expect that PDJT will rue many of his decisions, but the failure to release the declassified documents prior to the 2018 Mid Terms must be very high on that list. If the House had not been lost in 2018, things would have turned out very differently, indeed the 2020 election might not have been plagued with so many unexplainable irregularities.
I agree with you re: the “obstruction of justice” matter… and really most of what you wrote…. but, if you think about it for a while, you realize a lot of this just doesn’t make sense. Its more complex than what we see and hear on the surface.
What you wrote are the answers we have been TOLD re: why all this happened… but these answers presume that our knowledge of what’s going on… is on the same level as Trump’s knowledge, and that’s just not true.
I have followed this very closely for 4 years. Go back to the beginning.
How did the Mueller SC investigation start in the 1st place? What was the direct cause of Rosenstein launching the Special Counsel investigation?
Answer: after firing Comey in dramatic fashion, Trump went on CNN and said he fired Comey bc he didn’t like how Comey was handling the investigation into Russian “interference” and his campaign’s alleged involvement … and that he (Trump) would have fired Comey even w/out Rosenstein’s report on Comey’s mishandling of the clinton private server investigation.
WHAM… the Mueller SC investigation was born.
I begin my assessments — and I may well be wrong; I’m certainly in the minority even here– but I begin with the view that DJT IS… a brilliant strategist, along w/possessing many other exceptional talents, skills, incites and experiences learned over 40+ years “swimming w/the sharks”as a CEO in the international business world. You can’t be an undisciplined screw-up and get to Trump’s level of success.
Basically… it was REALLY dumb to deliberately go on CNN and create, unnecessarily, this crisis that caused the Mueller SC investigation to be launched.
No stupid unnecessary chit chat on the “hate-Trump” cable network CNN… NO Mueller SC investigation. Did Trump know what was likely to happen after that CNN interview? Yes, of course. Even I had a panic attack when I watched that interview.
And, that was the beginning of what would become a LONG miserable haul of investigations, impeachments, etc.
Things, though, are often not as they appear on the surface.
IMO, something serious is still going on in the background.
Finally, begin with the view that Trump IS an excellent judge of character and…. cannot be (and was not) fooled by Barr, Sessions, Comey, Pence, Mitch, pelosi, etc… and try to see things through that lens.
There were two things many prayed for when Trump was elected. First that those with eyes to see and ears to hear would recognize him as God’s choice at this time, and second, that through him the corruption in our government would be revealed. We can complain about some of his choices, but it seems that every one revealed more and more corruption. If the deep state had kept their mouths shut, who would know about Crossfire Hurricane? If there were no Mueller investigation, if Sessions hadn’t been appointed and neutered as AG, if there hadn’t been the hearsay leaker Eric Ciramella,(sp?-who cares, his real name must not be spoken), if the 2020 election had not been stolen–remember, if it were honest, he needed about 68 million votes to win in a landslide–you can go on and on with how things went that revealed more and more how corrupt things are. How much corruption did the China virus reveal? Guess what, one man cannot drain the swamp. The question is, can 75 to 100 million get the job done. On earth there is one guy who might be able to do it. Xi said they revised their nuclear targeting to the East and West coasts because that is where most of the US population is. I suppose we could support that solution, or we can unite and say the country cannot survive unless the institutional corruption is revealed and removed. Barr is thought to have believed that the nation couldn’t handle the truth. The truth is, no nation can survive the lie.
Trump was, and probably still is, the leader of a movement. How big and how powerful is his army?
This is not about complaining.
This is about understanding and LEARNING from the past so you do not do the same thing again. We must know our enemy.
Xi/CCP will not launch nukes at us. We would just destroy them. Its not necessary. The CCP already knows bio-warfare is successful. It just kills the people but preserves the infrastructure & environment.
Barr’s reason for not restoring the “Rule of law” was certainly NOT b/c he didn’t believe the people could take the truth b/c that is a dumb, frivolous reason and Barr is neither dumb nor frivolous. Also, his ultimate actions (non actions) do NOT correspond to his words. Maybe Barr’s family was threatened too.
I dont know but we NEED to know the answers.
What is truly frightening is that many Trump supporters do not want to challenge him for what he did not do and that is a losing position. Yes we need answers but I doubt with Trump’s tremendous EGO will we ever get it from him, so we must figure it out ourselves. I for one am very disappointed in how he handled the election fraud. Rush Limbaugh said he should have had one spokesperson come out every single day and give us an update on what the lawyers had found out. Instead we had numerous lawyers speaking to the Pravda News and giving conflicting reports which hurt him. On November 4th Trump looked like he got kicked in the stomach and gave up. Maybe, Melania said to him to give it up and lets return back to our normal lives. Who knows?
Well said, Patricia. Lots of hindsight back-seat driving underway now that we have entered the retrospective period.
WJC talked about “Hope” – allusion to his claimed hometown. Charlatan.
BHO shoved the language of “Hope and Change” down our throats as he burned the place down from right under us.
DJT restored real Hope to us – with real changes to rebuild the economic and patriotic health of our country.
In January, President Trump accepted that every single facet, and almost every single member of our elected and appointed federal government, had succumbed to the persuasion to walk away from his Presidency. Within the framework he was left standing alone, in spite of his massive public support. They attempted to kill the public support as well with the Jan. 6 false flag stunt.
The stunt didn’t work, and now they’re scared enough to encircle themselves in the Capitol with a wall built around it. I sincerely Hope they reap their just rewards. Meanwhile, it is up to us to preserve our Constitution and restore some semblance of integrity to our Government.
Looking back on Sundance’s reams of research, and the trip he made with the evidence in hand, I clearly recall that SD, too, was knocked off his customary balance by the glazed over eyeballs he encountered in high places while presenting his encyclopedia of hard evidence. These were the people responsible for the preservation of the balance of power within our government. They played their game roles well: see no evil, hear no evil; speak no evil, and everything will return to swampy, grifty normal.
It is that bad. We have allowed it to progress to this degree. Now we must fix it.
God help us.
I think Trump was afraid that two million people could have died from the virus and he would go down in history as the worst president. It wasn’t until we had a chance to study the numbers that we realized we were dealing with a serious flu and not a pandemic.
Trump’s biggest mistake was putting Pence in charge. He teed up Trump for a huge fall when he appointed Fauci and Brix. A simple google search told me everything I needed to know about the questionable past of these two physicians and their diabolical desire to profit from the sale of vaccines. That was the moment I realized it was over for Trump. They conspired to destroy not only the economy but our entire way of life. Which was pretty good during Trump’s term.
I don’t think he had anyone on his side…and one man can’t save the entire nation. When everything shut down there were few people that didn’t succumb to the tyranny without any outrage. We the people need to take our country back…we should have done more to speak up as a collective to defend our rights. We only have ourselves to blame. We keep voting the same types into the senate and congress. Time to get some real change agents if it is not too late.
“We keep voting the same types into the senate and congress. Time to get some real change agents if it is not too late.”
What we learned in the last election cycle is just that. It’s too late. Our “VOTE” no longer counts. What matters is who counts the “VOTES”.
We have learnt very little new about the virus, over what was known in March 2020.
In mid March 2020, the Italians had released a study of autopsies on about 355 covid deaths. At the ime there wwere about 4,000 covid deaths in Italy, so this was a sample of about 10% which is a large sample.
Of the 355 deaths, only 3 were exclussively due to covid. The other 352 were all comorbidies with most patients having 3 to 4 serius pre existing conditions. The average age of death was just over 81. It was known from this study that covid only took the very elderly and those with pre-existing serous health issues. It foreshortened life by weeks or months, little more than that.
We also had the experience of the Diamond Princess, where the passengers were OAPs and there was no social distancing before the ship was placed into quarantine. The mortality rate in what was extremely favourable conditions for the transmission of covid was only a little over 1%.
It was always known that the 3.4% mortality rate claimed by The WHO was a farce, and the models used to project the outcomes were just like those used in climate science, ie., unverified models based upon incomplete and dodgy data with a whole load of assumptions divorced from reality and previous observations/history. What could be wrong with reliance on such models ?!!! .
To add to it all, Fauci had aterrible record of incompetence, and was way off base with AIDS. Why would anyone trust him. The same os so of the Bristish professor who did the Imperial University study/projections.
Trump made a lot of good decisions on covid, but was surrounded by fools, and the Janaury impeachment did not help. But for that impeachment, I consider it probable that he would have banned air travel 1 to 2 weeks earlier, and that would have saved tens of thousands of lives. Of course, most of the high death figires are in democrat controlled states and cities, and due to poor decisions by democrat rulers.
Yes, very well said.
Your point is fair and reasonable. It is. You may be 100% correct… except that you, like most, presume that …. Pence was able to duped/fool President Trump… for 4 years… and really, thats just not possible.
Even though Pence looks like a shameful traitor, betrayer of BOTH PT and the nation & constitution and American people… I am not certain b/c i do NOT believe it is possible for Pence to fool Trump.
In his final remarks, Trump even thanked Pence and Karen.
Something ELSE is going on, something we do not see… yet.
AND WE KNOW something is wrong b/c there should be NO reason for armed National Guard troops all over DC….. AND…. there is NO reason for this ludicrous scam 2nd impeachment.
Something is wrong.
Yes. Something is wrong.
We have Demorats, acting and talking like Communists.
As far as DJT making mistakes, tell me one human being on this planet, that hasnt made one.
Its all very simple to me. He was surrounded by snakes. They lied to him, over and over again. They,being the Decepticons that surrounded him.
When you are up to your neck in snakes, every single day, when you have daggers flying at your back 24/7, it is pretty tough to get it all right.
The RINO sobs made sure he was surrounded by liars and seditionists.
He was an outsider, playing in the traitors world. I will never believe he thought it was as bad as it really is, this criminality and the fact, it seems, 99 per cent of the Fed Govmt is corrupt and taking money from our enemy’s.
I really dont think he knew how bad the swamp is. I have always been political and kept an eye on these people, but until Sundance and a small group of others shined their light for us, I didnt think these traitors were that much of a danger.
Now I know, I wasnt digging deep enough.
I will never be convinced, that President Trump knew how low the RINO’s and DRats would go. Time will tell, as truth always sees the light after a time.
We could spend all day thinking about woulda, coulda, shoulda….maybe this, because of that, ad nauseum……
The real issues are in front of us anyways. Not behind us.
If voter fraud is allowed to stand and the voter fraud issue is not resolved, especially the illegals voting and mail in, then we, the patriots, will never see a true American champion ever again. The DRats are importing their new voting pets, and will make another State as well, with them being the majority……
Those are what we have to deal with. Questioning President Trumps moves and debating what he did, or did not do, doesnt fix the future issues. Everyone has an opinion, and we know what the next sentence is……
The reason there are National Guard (NG) troops all over DC is because the Democrats, following Black Racist Muslim Obama, became the Insane Left, which is both a criminal, organized Mob (the leaders) and insane Cult (their base). The DC NG are used by the Mob leaders to claim the moral high ground, to pretend law and order are on their side, and to satisfy the Cult base, who hate all non-Cult Americans, and want to see us literally destroyed, or at least for now, prevented from appearing in Washington DC in the millions again.
It is the SAME reason Obama had, back in the spring of 2008, for so determinedly and quickly ridding himself of his 20 year relationship with the “Reverend” Jeremiah Wright, the episode that exposed him to me as totally without true character. Also it is the same reason for the blocking of his history, across the board, including his birth certificate…
The “something” that is wrong is the multi-faceted hate empowered by Obama, and Obama himself.
Yes, RHI. Obviously we all need to… examine what occurred, how it occurred and why it occurred… b/c something… is NOT right. Too much makes no logical sense.
start with the republic convention – where the entire republican party was going to steal President Trumps delegates (because its a private party and they can)
the negotiation was he would take Paul Manafort – the prior negotiation was he should pick Pence.
WB, I believe you’re right about the plants in the Admin by the GOP. They’re skilled at deception and succeeded in limiting (& hindering) President’s Trump’s success. What they did not foresee, and now have to deal with, is his economic success which benefitted all Americans & now has become the new standard for which they will be judged.
President Trump proved that Obama’s New Normal was a fallacy we didn’t have to accept. Extinct Manufacturing jobs returned with good policy. ALL Americans benefitted from low energy prices, especially those with the lowest income. These memories won’t soon be erased from American’s mins and will serve as strong headwinds for both Resident Biden and Congress. It will be harder for his Administration to take us back to the dismal days of Obama’s high taxes, high unemployment, & high energy costs (gasoline, electricity rates, natural gas, heating oil). It may take some time, but people will start asking why Trump was able to get it done, but you (Biden) can’t. Trump’s success was an important diversion from Big Government’s intentional decline of the American economy, God willing.
Great post which reminds me of a similar one Ann Coulter drew ire from writing. Trump inspired patriotic hearts in all of us who were being told by the left that America was a country to be ashamed of. He has a boyish friendly personality that makes you want more of him, but there actually was grumbling early on about Javanka and the fact that he had the House and Senate in the beginning and we expected him to use that to fix immigration first, but DACA sat there like the elf on the shelf. We wanted what Trump seemed to stand for…..America First, and he was the only choice to Redpill and awaken us and we will always be grateful and loyal, but he got sucked into the swamp as we watched. We know, but love him for trying.
Well regarding having the House and Senate for two years, we all thought, as is obvious did President Trump – this is great! He, and we, will be able to get a lot accomplished!
But instead, the Republican House and Senate WORKED AGAINST President Trump at just about EVERY TURN. Remember – a good majority of the RHINOs BELIEVED the Russian Collusion Nonsense – or so they say. Either that or they CHOSE to believe to suit their agenda.
How Lindsey sung evil Robert Mueller’s praises – “Mueller’s an honorable man” – and actually worked on a BILL TO ENSURE President Trump would not be able to fire Mueller! Remember that? Paul Ryan kept Devin Nunes in check on documents access and subpoenas, and refused to get things done.
Recall RHINO Ryan hung on for 8 or 9 months, or whatever the length, when he should have been gone upon his announcement of retirement to “spend time with the family”.
As to DACA, President Trump did do a lot on that early in his Presidency. He was blocked at every turn – by the courts – when he tried to undo it by Executive Order. Recall that Obama was able to create DACA via – A MEMO! – not even an executive order, yet, President Trump needed to jump through snake Robert’s hoops in order to undo it.
I truly believe President Trump was shocked beyond belief at the depth and breadth of the SWAMP. Being an outsider, he needed to rely on the Swamp People to some extent in order to navigate the Swamp.
I could say so much more, and yes President Trump made mistakes, as all humans do, but also recall how hard the RHINOs worked to deny him his choices of Cabinet appointments. Joebama, on the other hand, doesn’t seem to be having that same problem. hmmmm.
It is easy for us to Monday morning quarterback calling out Trump’s ‘mistakes’ when we have no clue what he was up against, what conversations and threats went on behind closed doors and what he assessed to be the fallout with each decision made.
If Trump made any mistakes, they are by far less than all if Biden’s mistakes with only 2 weeks in office.
Amen!
I believe you misread my post – which was not Monday morning quarterbacking about mistakes, but a response to another post that detailed some “mistakes” – where I was noting how actions classified as mistakes were not in fact mistakes – but ROADBLOCKS by the RHINOS and the COURTS.
As to my saying President Trump made mistakes – he did – we all do, we are human – I was making this statement just in general, that’s all, nothing more.
Me personally, I think a lot of what gets classified as President Trump’s mistakes is due to his trusting nature and his belief that people are acting in good faith – until they prove that to not be the case.
As to Joebama, his actions are in no way, shape or form mistakes but the targeted, intentional, actions of a DICTATOR who means us grave harm in his zeal to turn this Country into a Dictatorship as quickly as possible.
Your analysis is so right. President Trump is blocked at every turn. The man was quite literally surrounded by deceivers. The repugnicans being the ring leaders of the coup. Despite it all he got so much done.
I am noticing a new theme now on the right among so called “Trump supporters”. All of sudden there is a barrage of “opinions” that President Trump is/was “controlled opposition” at best, a lair and deceiver at worst. One of the things that gets me is that the underlying base of these “opinions”. They are essentially demanding that President Trump should have been the dictator he was accused of being. The irony of that always gets me.
Most of the “analyzers” sat for years doing nothing. Today they are still doing nothing but making dire pronouncements. They all KNOW with absolute certainty what President Trump should have done. Yet none of them have ever so much as volunteered on a political campaign. What they fail to see/understand is that it is not up to Donald John Trump to save the country. Its up to all of us. Know so much about how things should be done? Run for office. DO SOMETHING.
Yes, CCV, he was alone. Yes, good advice. Do something!
Amen, there are trade-offs in negotiations plus the swamp to stop President Trump. I want to remind those armchair Republicans that complain about Trump that he was an honest human being. He was investigated for four years and they looked under every rock and found nothing. What did you do for the country and what did you do for the Republican party you’re probably one of the talk talk talk crowd.
If he had been sucked into the swamp as you suggest, they would not have had to steal the election.
good point
I suspect President Trump had no idea just how deep, corrupt, pernicious and evil the swamp was/is. Were it not for his uncanny ability to make them unmask themselves we would not know either.
I don’t know if it was uncanny ability or they were too eager/dumb and let us see. Truth, eventually, comes out and they seemed to rush to expose themselves.
…and telling the truth, against all critics, is the Secret to understanding Donald Trump. That, plus the talent for negotiating, worthy of a Solomon.
Thanks Cowboy. Hard to argue.
That’s a very good and fair assessment of what … appears… to have occurred during the presidency of Donald J. Trump.
Trump did… permit the 2020 election to be stolen from him (and us) via massive orchestrated fraud.
Trump did… permit … his staff and cabinet to bully, backstab and betray him… and he certainly knew they were doing it (he was not duped) … and he did nothing to stop it. Why? Because “draining the swamp” wasn’t the FUN part of the job?
Incidentally, appearances can be deceiving so none of us really KNOW the truth. We just know what we are permitted to see … and what Trump wanted us to know/see too. Probably much is/was illusion.
Problem is … failing to drain the swamp merely b/c its not FUN… is suicidally dangerous, isn’t it?
After all, you do not threaten to take down the swamp unless you KNOW you can do it…and you know EXACTLY how you are going to do it… and you have a team that you KNOW you can trust and a team you KNOW is committed to the “America First/MAGA” agenda. You must KNOW it for certain… not hope it… not guess it. No mistakes. Your life & future depend on NO mistakes.
Because… ultimately, either you get the swamp OR the swamp gets you, period.
Trump always knew that if he failed to drain the swamp … it WOULD destroy him … and his children … and the Trump Corp he devoted his life to building… and THAT IS exactly what the swamp intends to do to Trump now.
And, it will only get worse.
Those NY lawsuits loom and Dems I converse with are gleefully awaiting the day they will see “orange man” in an orange jumpsuit, bankrupted and destroyed. Gleeful.
Here’s the WEIRD thing.
30,000 National Guard troops, in camouflage, armed with automatic assault rifles were hauled in to DC to protect 2000 attendees at the JB “inauguration”/installation. 30,000. Checkpoints and auto searches everywhere, days before the “big” event. Creepy actually. AND 1000s of troops still roam the streets of the Nation’s Capital armed w/,assault weapons.
… And, Congress is WALLING-in the US Capital
… and Congress is desperately trying to stop Trump from ever being able … to BE …POTUS again and Congress is willing to twist the US Constitution into a pretzel to do it. Why?
FEAR. For some reason, they… fear… President Donald J. Trump.
IMO, they fear he is coming back… and they are right… to fear.
Trump, not Biden, won the 2020 election by a landslide… and EVERY head of state in the world KNOWS it… b/c unlike many/most Americans… they HAVE SEEN the evidence.
… and the WORLD is watching to see just how long this shameful charade will be permitted to continue.
I have no idea what will happen in the coming months… Maybe nothing will happen and this CRIME against the American people will be permitted to continue, shamefully.
But i DO KNOW that JUSTICE must be served IF the “American Experiment” has any hope of surviving.
We cannot un-see what we have seen.
pretty ridiculous to expect ONE MAN to drain the Swamp. And what’s with this “fun” garbage? If you put your faith in one man only, that man will disappoint.
It appears that some people don’t understand how firing of certain people in the government works. Most of the government employees are protected from firing because Presidents come and go. Trump could fire the people he appointed but was semi-prevented if they had to go through the Senate for approval. He couldn’t fire everyone.
So Trump could … just TWEET to 80 million supporters who are American citizens … and TELL US what’s being DONE to him…. and to “we the people” right?
If this anti- constitutional control is being done to Trump, then certainly it was also done to presidents of LESS personal strength and courage: clinton, bush, obama, biden… right?
How long do you WANT to permit the American people to be…. ENSLAVED by a bunch of arrogant dictatorial SEDITIOUS bureaucrats? IS your answer really going to be that there is nothing we can do about it?
I didn’t expect ONE man. I expected ONE LEADER and his large TEAM of patriots who are committed to saving America to do it.
What did you expect?
It was TRUMP who said many times he WOULD drain the swamp, we ARE draining the swamp… and WE caught them all.
What does that tell you?
The “fun garbage”… refers to what Cowboy said/implied was the reason PDJT didnt bother to “make good” on his public promise to drain the swamp.
I was attempting to show WHY Cowboy’s reasoning on this point… is ridiculous.
I believe he did catch them all no Republican would back him Harley but one or two. Most of all no court would hear his case what what would you want him to do. He’s only one man. It’s up to everyone of us patriot loving Americans to do our part. We must take our country back lawfully.
Winner of the most ridiculous statement award,bar none
Yes, he did… b/c HE said tbe dems r attempting to steal & rig the election w/mass mail-in ballots that ARE the most susceptible to FRAUD, right? Obviously he knew what the sleazy, unethical dems were planning.
So… he had 2 choices:
1. Stop the fraud from occurring in the 1st place w/a trusted team of patriots who CARE to protect the country against those who would destroy our constitution… and DENY us free, honest elections, right? OR
2. LET the loser dems/biden people commit massive election fraud… and catch them in the act/crime using our superior intel tools –for which WE THE PEOPLE PAY handsomely– to catch them, right?
It needed to be one or the other.
If nothing was done– as it appears since we have SEEN the mountains of evidence proving that the fraud/the steal did occur … then… OBVIOUSLY…. I am correct to say …
Trump DID permit the 2020 election to be stolen from him.
Not rocket science.
1. Stop the fraud from occurring in the 1st place w/a trusted team of patriots who CARE to protect the country against those who would destroy our constitution… and DENY us free, honest elections, right?
The fraud was in basically 4 states. Pennsylvania,Michingan,Wisconsin and Georgia. Will speak to 1 state;Pa. it is the MOST clear cut case. There is a Republican legislature in the state. They sat by and watched the Democrats in that state flaunt the Constitution and change the election laws. We all know they had no business doing that. In the end they DID stand up but by then it was too late. It’s not like there weren’t good ppl trying to put a stop to it. It wasn’t up to Trump to stop it. He didn’t have that authority . The legislature in those states ie Pa DID.
A lot of us knew what they were up to. A lot of us DIDN’T. They didn’t exactly jump up and say we are going to cheat and this is how we are going to do it. They gave us hints what they were going to do. Again,the legislatures in the respective states-the Republicans-had the responsibility to be ready for it. Trump didn’t permit it. They did but it could be they were blindsided. Could be it was a hell of a fight and they lost it. I’m not saying they wanted the Dems to cheat like they did-i’m saying maybe they tried to stop it and couldn’t. Maybe they didn’t have the time to stop it in time. Maybe they were blindsided. Can’t say. i do know if they don’t want to see it happen again they are already on it. Trump didn’t permit it. The actual voting takes place at the county level, right down to each city/town.We don’t vote in DC.
No, the fraud was most likely in MOST states. It was in the 4 you mention +NV and AZ bc we have evidence of that too. But, this was a massive orchestrated system of fraud committed by the Dems/DNC (85-90%) + Rs (10-15%).
The rest of your explanation is basically… that the US GOVT… is … INCAPABLE of ensuring there are fair honest elections in the United States of America.
That also means the US GOVT is incapable of protecting & defending the Constitution of the US.
Neither are true. The US GOVT certainly is UNWILLING to protect & defend the nation and US Constitution but it is NOT incapable of doing so.
in most states-true. clarify what i was trying to say(didn’t communicate well) but i think those 4 were critical to winning. those were the ones we watched Trump win in a landslide and suddenly they couldn’t call em. Remember the Georgia non existent leak that caused the problem? The Dems didn’t have to cheat in the whole state. they only had to cheat in certain areas. not saying that’s how they did it-saying that’s all they really had to do.,i’m not saying the central gov’t is incapable of defending the Constitution. i was saying the state legislators have the authority granted BY THE CONSTITION to set election rules. The Dems violated the Constitution. when they went around the legislature’s rules.
And just who would comprise this “trusted team of patriots”? And what would they have done? The crooks WERE caught in the act on video everywhere and those videos are in the public domain.
Tons of evidence was collected by Rudy, Sidney Powell and others and yet, none of the evidence has been presented in any courtroom for adjudication. None of that is Trump’s fault.
Its not about … fault.
Trump clearly KNEW the fraud would occur if nothing was done to prevent it & protect the nation. Barr knew it too.
I don’t believe this is over– even though it appears to be.
“Trump, not Biden, won the 2020 election by a landslide… and EVERY head of state in the world KNOWS it… b/c unlike many/most Americans… they HAVE SEEN the evidence.
… and the WORLD is watching to see just how long this shameful charade will be permitted to continue.”
Well, I think you’re missing, that most of the planets leaders are locking down their citizens and ruining economy’s, and are making laws daily, that take away rights and freedoms.
The rest of the worlds leaders, for the most part, are part of the planetary swamp. They hated DJT as much as the Demorats/Decepticons.
Look at Boris and what he is saying and doing, as one small example.
Most of our allies are part of this coup. Only Hungary and Poland stand out to me.
The rest are in it up to their ears.
Finally, someone states what should be obvious. I’ve read this entire thread from Cowboy and started to jump in, but waited. It wasn’t just our Swamp or Deep State, it was the entire Globe against DJT. Can you imagine what is aligned against him. From the time he rode the escalator down to right now, the world has been trying to remove him. What he did achieve was a miracle.
God bless him and protect him. Teach your children what happened and urge them to pass down that information to future generations, until the Rapture.
the details of spygate tell you exactly which allies were involved in getting rid of Trump.
Spot on.
Agreed, they also ran a hell of a psy op that captured a lot of people. Q
Armchair Quarterback
i felt compelled to defend him because the attack on Trump began before he was even sworn into office. Who would have thought that our FBI,DOJ,STATE DEPT,FISA court,people in his own party as well as the Democrats were ALL plotting against him.The media can be included in the Democrat party. You tell me,who did that leave? let the full force of the U.S. government come after you and let’s see how far you get.
In one post alone you make a case that he appointed ppl who weren’t loyal to him so that was the problem and in the next breathe you’re talking about how nobody owes him any loyalty. i get that he’s fallible. i get that we have to be loyal to our Constitution and rule of law. That’s a given as a citizen of our country. But you do have to have loyalty to the person you are there at the pleasure to serve not plotting a coup even though that person is fallible.
I’ll be nice, exercise some self control and say BALONEY
I am loyal to Trump, the leader that left everything in the field for US. He needed at least a few people he could trust always, thus Jared and Ivanka. Jared got USMCA and the Abraham peace accords done, he is a brilliant man. Ivanka got working women leave and less taxes, otherwise women would have hated US even more. Trump made me a wealthy man through my 401k. I had never had financial security before, and security feels great.
Thank you President Trump for your tireless service. You lead, I will follow. America First.
No way that posting got 25 real upvotes.
He won re-election by at least 10 million additional votes, so I don’t think the voters share your sentiments.
He won a second term, and should have had 4 more years to continue his historical accomplishments.
Your what-if’s are so stupid.
He was a great President.
yep. what if’s never solve a problem;never change a thing.
Wow. A lot of people wanting to turn on Trump and blame him for not working what we now know would have been miracles. My admiration for what he was able to accomplish only grows and grows yet more as we keep learning more about the scale of opposition to him. And perhaps the most surprising thing we learned about him is that he is truly good person. Maybe too trusting too easily manipulated but actually a remarkably decent man.
So, you think that a new POTUS coming into office, a guy with no prior political organization, can fire everyone and then appoint skilled people AND people loyal to him and to his agenda?
Where does he get those people? He doesn’t KNOW ANY. Further, the handful of loyalists he has around him don’t know them either.
Your post is probably the best I have read since coming to this Treehouse! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.
Yogi is entitled to his opinion but he’s dead wrong on many points. thankfully most of the ppl who have replied have pointed out where he’s off the rails. Doesn’t sound like you took any of those comments into consideration.
No doubt about the backstabbing via the people Pence put in place. Trump relied on the Republicans to help him because he had never been in government before, but they obstructed at every turn possible.
They are also trying to rig his defense. The Democrats will allege the most outlandish things during this upcoming trial, but Trump is being told upfront that he cannot defend himself on his “real belief” of election irregularities. These people in Washington are really corrupt. I have never heard of jurors telling defendants what their defense must be before or during a trial.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1356696585837682693
It is appalling that Republicans are trying to deny Trump the ability to defend himself. Were I Trump, I would blow the Democrat/Republican corruption wide open. Tell it all and name their names. Make them pay for the 4 years of he$$ they put he and his family through unnecessarily.
So, once again, why the hell does he listen to them? If we know they are screwing him, surely he knows. Or does he?
I would imagine it’s hard to find lawyers when you are out the door and anyone you hire are going to recieve threats on their and their families lives as well as their livelihood.
My unsolicited advice to all the negative Nellie’s here tonight is to focus on what PDJT accomplished. I know of no human who could have accomplished what he did in four years considering what he had to go through to get it done. He is a successful businessman and was a successful U.S. President. The stolen election is not his fault. He had a very tough decision to make at the end. I trust he made the right decision for the right reasons. Easy to say what he coulda, shoulda done without being there yourself or knowing the circumstances.You think Hillary would have been better?
I now believe the best course he could take is just to ignore the impeachment. Don’t send lawyers or witnesses. They’ll never let him defend himself anyway. Best just to ignore it.
I could not despise the persons in the second picture more than I do today…every ounce of my being detests them and all they represent.
I would love to know what Sundance and readers here think about Patrick Byrne’s articles at Deep Capture dot com. I have been reading all his recent posts about Gen. Mike Flynn, Sydney Powell, and Byrne meeting with Trump concerning election fraud.
Powell shared Byrne’s account on telegram without comment a couple of days ago. Unsettled my heart.
Thanks. It is truly depressing
Me too.
Credible and totally fits in to what Sundance has been pointing out about the Decepticons and Trump being nearly alone to fend for himself in DC. Also telling is that you won’t be seeing Pat Cipollone and others who defended Trump in Impeachment One because they can’t be trusted to fight as Byrne described in Chapter 3.
There doesn’t seem to be many in DC that Trump can trust.
Probably just Rudy.
The Lawfare crowd have been “cancelling” the attorneys who have worked for Trump or the Trump campaign. Lawfare is going after entire law firms. Students (and IIRC) some professors at Harvard are trying to revoke law degrees earned by Kayleigh McEnany and Ted Cruz. No law degree = no law license. Others are threatened by bar complaints that could result in loss of their licenses.
Lefties are nasty and dangerous. That is why they must be successfully opposed.
It’s an opinion of an outsider who was not part of the inner sanctum.
Thank you sincerely Deborah for the tip and the link. I read all three chapters. I admit on being depressed for the very first time since the election. Our President truly was surrounded by jackals and DeceptiCONs who have misled him – and the entire nation as a result – terribly.
I cannot imagine how both Patrick, General Flynn, and Sidney must feel. Sidney has fought so gallantly and smartly for her clients, General Flynn went through he!! for three years, and Patrick apparently did a yeoman’s job of organizing and getting a ton of meaningful evidence of ther massive fraud we all knew occurred.
But they really ran up against an insurmountable obstruction in the traitors surrounding and pretending to serve President Trump. And I am very much saddened at the depleted character that once-powerful Mayor Rudy Giuliani has become, yet on whom the President chose his – and our – fortunes to depend, dismally..
He’s more than implying that Rudy blew it and probably because Rudy is a drunk and too old to handle something is big.
My cousin, a Patriot friend of mine, sent me Byrne’ s Part I article. Seems to me Byrne is painting Giuliani as a rambling incoherent alcoholic, and at the end of his “novel” he will find a way to pin the fraudster election on Giuliani. It’s a “clue” for me when I don’t see footnotes or attribution to anyone, let alone Sidney Powell. As far as I can tell, if Byrne goes on with this story as I see it, it will be a case for Lin Wood re SLANDER. Just another “know it all “insider” who is too full of himself and his fiction.
No, Rudy is not responsible for the fraudulent election. How would that even be possible ?
I just spent over an hour reading there. I’m hooked. What really stood out to me, is Trump’s loyalty for Rudy. He (Trump) really is a good man. I’m not a fan of Sydney Powell, tho. Just something about her, puts me off. I used to be because of the Enron case and even bought her book, Licensed to Lie.
I’ve had questions about Rudy for some time now. I think Trump depended too much on him and Rudy hasn’t been up to the task for a good while. Rudy was great in his day but the Washington swamp was too much for him. I always liked Sydney Powell, but I got frustrated with her out in the media every day shouting ‘kraken” and then … nothing. I know God is still in control. I also know it is too late to go back and put Trump into the office that he legally won. We will see.
Every potential solution discussed is irrelevant because we have fraudulent elections. Until politicians and bureaucrats genuinely respect American citizens or genuinely fear them, nothing will change.
Find out how you can change that. Election reform is becoming a hot topic in some states. Nanzi’s HR1 would nationalize our elections and our databases. Help make sure that does not happen.
BTW, you know this is Nanzi’s priority because in every new session of congress, the designation HR1 is reserved for the speaker.
https://listen.warroom.org/e/ep-695-pandemic-education-hour-w-scott-presler-mike-glassner/
Instead of trashing President Trump for what he did not get done, I am amazed and thankful thankful for the 4 good years we had. The deck was stacked against him from day one and he still made great decisions for America. He proved that success in/for America was possible.
The Republican Party be damned for the he$$ they are still putting President Trump through. They are all snakes, vile humans and traitors to America.
Always remember you’re not in the club. My father in law always said. “To trust is well,To bust is hell, No trust,no bust,no hell. Trump trusted. We’re all busted. Reagan got me here and I’ve been loyal. The game is over. Either a new party or bust. Marxist control will never be defeated by deceptive RINOS.
President Trump is no fool, he had to make deals to get anything done.That means deals with the most vile snakes on earth.Right there in D.C. In his next term he should never set foot in D.C. instead let them crawl to Florida and he should put them up in the nearest swamp where they’ll feel more at home.
HE WILL serve a 2nd term…as the 19th President of the rEPUBLIC OF THE usa !
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Its kind of amazing Trump made it out alive and relatively unhurt. So far.
DC is likely a globalist colony in a foreign country.
If we could see this, and we did, there’s no reason Trump couldn’t have. Which begs the question what is the point in having an America First president who would have to be an outsider to be America Firstto begin with, in office at all if they cannot do the things necessary to dismantle the crooks who are literally selling us out?
because you arent reliable to defend this country… so its best to let men like President Trump buy us 4 more years to spend with our families preparing to be murdered by our government because we think to much.
pedophiles arent afraid of our government
antifa is not afraid of our government
china isnt afraid of our government
hackers arent afraid of our government (including Imran Awan)
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The only people afraid of our governement are the ones that love this country.
Because we aren’t willing to do what we CAN and SHOULD do, and you all know what that is…
There’s a reason that God told the Israelites to wage war on the Amalekites and wipe them all out… Man, woman, and child, pets and livestock…Every living thing.
And if that Q psyop hadn’t been working, we might have done our duty, in time to save the Republic.
And that’s the truth.
Amen, there is a place and time for everything.
“The only people afraid of our governement are the ones that love this country.”
That’s because the ones who love this country – I call them USA Americans – are the only ones who realize just how dangerous a situation the country is in.
The “thinking” you allude to is a way of avoiding the ugly truth that nothing is going to change until our side is willing to spill blood for the cause. Sure, we can pray, and we can form third parties and donate to MAGA candidates, but none of it amounts to a hill of beans when they can rig elections.
It is beyond belief that the Republicans would so willingly accept election defeat all because they did not want President Trump to be the President for another term.
I am betting the Republicans were in on the steal and that is why they are doing everything possible to stop President Trump from pursuing his legal right to challenge the election fraud.
There is more corruption going on in both parties and DC than we ever imagined. President Trump only exposed a small bit. We’ve been played like fools by the GOP for years, but not anymore.
They didn’t care when McCain lost. They expected him to, simply handed him the nomination as they had handed it to the ancient Bob Dole.
They had to beg Romney to run as they had no one else wanting to attempt it.
They didn’t seem to mind that he lost.
They were quite prepared, frankly, for Hillary to win. I was actually surprised when Jeb Bush ran as I think the GOP felt Hillary would win.
The GOP seems to enjoy their minority status. They can collect money w/out being in the bull’s eye.
Yes Sundance has explained that very well. Several times. I admit mit took awhile to really sink into my inner neurons.
I had a lifetime of conditioning that always made me first think of republicans as the good guys and Democrats as the bad guys.
I once was blind but now I see…… they’re all slimy self-interested, status-seeking snakes.
Bingo. How could anyone be expected to think their own congress people, attorney general and Supreme Court justices were going to roll over and lay down for the election fraud?
But they all did.
Yes, the GOPe Inc are/have always been in on the coup. That’s why these accusations of President being part of the big lie are so ridiculous. He is part of their plot so they are seeking to destroy him? Part of the plot that now wants to deny him a BANK ACCOUNT? That would make him one heck of a fool would it not?
exactly and now they are trying to get him evicted from his Mar-A-Lago home and they’re also saying he will not be permitted to have a presidential library. Even good ppl who want to support him are probably thinking about what might happen to them- if they can do all this crap to a former President.Some good ppl will have the courage. Some are probably thinking twice.
I’d like to take the opportunity to once again point out that Nikki Haley is a phony and Pence was Kellogg’s inside man to take Trump down. NEVER VOTE FOR EITHER.
Thank you.
It really doesn’t matter who we vote for (and I’d walk through burning embers before ever voting for Pence, Haley, Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz), because the 2024 election has already been gamed out and determined by the leaders of the New World Order. We will have no say in that result.
We never had a say in 2020 either. It is a done deal. Communism is coming today.
God sits in his throne and laughs at phony Democrats plan. The righteous will win in the end are we willing to do what is necessary to save the republic. President Trump did his part now it’s our turn follow the Constitution.
Trump-DeSantis 2024. Pence is done.
We need a new party if this is true. No other way around it.
One thing is for sure they will never let Trump get another Republican nomination even if he wins it fair and square.
there are 74 million of us and growing-and i believe by 2024 you can add another couple million. There’s more of us than there are of them. Hang in. They want us to feel defeated. not going to let them.
We need a LIBERTY Party! or an AMERICAN LIBERTY Party! A CONSTITUTION Party or CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLICAN Party would also be good, as these names clearly describe what America is all about. We don’t need a PATRIOT PARTY. Anyone can claim to be a patriot. Our lives and our government have always been about LIBERTY vs. TYRANNY. George Washington warned us that “Government is…FORCE; like fire, it is a Dangerous Servant and a Fearsome MASTER!” We must either govern ourselves OR we will be governed by others. And for self-government to succeed we need TWO things: 1) MORALITY based upon God’s instructions, as recognized in our Declaration of Independence; and 2) SMALL Government, whose purpose is to secure our God-given rights, as outlined in our US Constitution! That is why Thomas Jefferson concluded that “That government which governs least, governs best!” Let’s do it!
Dear Lord I pray for justice so the imposter in chief -Biden can be turned out and our great President Trump can be rightfully inaugurated for his second term
Amen. It has been prophesied by Kim Clement and Hank Kunnemann and others, but only God can bring this about. Are we headed for a new great awakening or the end times?
This breaks it down pretty good
How DJT Lost the White House: Chapter 1, 2, and 3
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https://www.deepcapture.com/
Just finished Pt. 1 and Byrne hasn’t said a thing that surprises me. I buy it. Nothing I’ve ever sensed about POTUS’ personality and “management style” suggests a hierarchy that works for circumstances such as these. He trusted Rudy, yet no one knew better than POTUS that Rudy, brilliant as he is, drinks excessively.
I heard Rudy on War Room a great many times explaining to Bannon that they were not going to try to prove voter fraud in court, that it wouldn’t work. They were going to attack process.
What I don’t understand is why POTUS wasn’t keeping a firm line of communication with someone who could report the disorganization.
I think it’s clear the person who was often with the Mayor, listened intently, said little but what he said was insightful was probably Bernie Kerick.
I don’t know who Mediocrity is. Any ideas?
I also don’t understand why POTUS didn’t have Don Jr in on all this to report back to his father.
All Jr. does is complain. Listen to his useless rants on Telegram https://t.me/TrumpJr
People looking for a leader close to Trump must be saddened to find out Jr. is a pampered idiot.
I think the Mediocrity might be Jenna Ellis.
Recap at what’s going on everywhere across the MSM.
1-They’ve already gone back to criticizing how dumb Trump’s cabinet was handling things last year instead.
2-Suddenly a bunch of people who fit the exact same demographic of a Soros rally agitator are storming the capital violently – that was a full 19 minutes before he even took the stage several blocks away.
3-Have any of you ever honestly used reddit? It’s always been known for mostly 20 and 30 something gamer type’s with nothing better to do when not gaming than to dox people and wreak havoc. It’s super cumbersome and just worthless unless you have a low paying desk job I suppose.
4-These same reddit gamer geeks use GameStop of all companies to bring hedge funders to their knees?? Then mysteriously choose the commodities market to extort with silver? Wouldn’t that instead sound a whole lot more like the trigger warnings a progressive POTUS would use to enforce very stringent new legislation against the “rich” as they like to say. It’s entirely scripted. They’ll upend 401k’s and pensions before it can even be investigated.
5-We’ve got a media more concerned with Trump’s trial than the celebration up til this week. Biden gets photo’d often and spoken to almost not at all by the media. The man’s going to install staggering legislation very quickly and resign due to health reasons I believe. Either by this year’s SotU, or next. Watch and see. You can almost hear an HRC with a big sh*t eating grin saying how dark and dystopian that sounds. No Hillary it actually sounds EXACTLY like Sun Tzu.
-“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war. Defeated warriors go to war first and then try to win”
The Art of War
These people had to use the Satanic tactics from the author of The Art of War just to beat a man of God who authored The Art of the Deal. I hope everyone sees the irony in that is all. They’ll continue using it after he’s gone too. Lead by faith and not by might. It is now when our own hypocrisy or self righteousness can cost us the most.
Please all Treepers here pray for our great President Trump may this unlawful shampeachment be done. So unlawful indeed.
Can’t pretend to know what other shit show is coming. Noticed Nancy Pelosi showed a hard bound copy of the scam-peachment articles. Why not something Trump can tear up just as she did his Inauguration speech?
Had a personal experience today re the concept of someone living “rent free in your brain.” Despite evidence from science I sent this person, they have stored in their memory EVERYTHING President Trump EVER said about the non-existent virus. I responded by saying “I believe that the Earth is FLAT, NOT ROUND. And Happy Groundhog Day.” It’s hard to describe, and how freeing it was just to send nonsense back that wouldn’t start another no-win argument between us.
Then I started imagining about the entirety of Politicians from all stripes who have let the very concept of President Trump live “rent free” in their entire being. Letting someone live “Rent Free in one’s mind, means being OBSESSED/POSSESSED to me.
Gave me a new perspective. To borrow from a John Lennon song, “Trump is a concept” that is being used to measure PAIN for those who don’t even realize Trump has lived in their “brains” rent free. Imagine if even ONE thing had been done to improve our country and enact legislation that would possibly, improve the well being of our Nation, in the last four years rather than spend Billions of taxpayer dollars on trying to destroy the very concept of Donald J. Trump. And to diminish the stature of all who LEGALLY voted for him.
Like I’ll see it my lifetime, but I would love some Forensic Accounting team to show the American people how much of American taxpayer dollars have been spent, all because they did not LIKE President Trump. Salaries of the Supreme Court, the Congress, Senate, FBI, CIA, NSA, State Department (plus benefits), the cost of all of their “top Secret” clearances. Ad nauseum. And that doesn’t even count the “free rent” possessed at the state level. BILLIONS!
All because he wasn’t a “Baird Boy.” (Scent of a Woman). Be well all. Signing out.
Ive read several treepers comment in the past that PDJT had several assassination attempts against him. Can anyone elaborate, or is this just fiction?
I read somewhere there were 7
saw one attempt by a vehicle. it’s in video
yep. no telling what these ppl will do. think they’re actually getting paranoid. That means whatever they do next will either be stupid or dangerous. or BOTH
THAT requires a hearty, healthy AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, A-M-E-N.
I hope PDT has and is learning how to get YOUR Ideas and the things you ran on rammed thru even if people gripe. Next Term, go in with a preassembled bunch of LOYALISTS. Staff even to the lowest position ONLY with PROVEN Trumpers!
DO NOT listen to ANY RINO/gopE NO MATTER WHAT!
Go in GANGBUSTERS and start the Exec Orders and firings the SECOND you enter the WH. Go straight to the Oval Office and start doing what you WANTED to do before.
ANYONE left over in ANY position is FIRED effective 2pm that day, have your people already in those offices ready to just sit down and start work!
AND THIS TIME do NOT bring ivanka and jared–PERIOD
OH and choose DeSantis to be your VP-
ABSOLUTELY!
It is now clear why the fly landed on Pence … his schiff stench.
One Swamp move that was particularly repugnant was the effort the Swamp put into trying to destroy The Donald’s and Melania’s marriage. Sure, the screeching about Stormy Daniels also was aimed at breaking Christians from Trump. The Steele dossier with the made-up urination story was wretched too. All the same, I think Melania and the marriage were the primary targets.
Evil.
The SWAMP is DEEP and the SWAMP is WIDE and many DISGUSTING CREATURES dwell inside. From the outside looking in it is a plain as the nose on your face that America and all its Institutions and alphabet Organs of State are corrupt to the core and Trump should be thanked for making them all EXPOSE themselves for what they are.
Traitors to the left of me..traitors to the right..Here I am…
they’re going to make sure he has no peace even out of office. they can sink this low https://www.westernjournal.com/donald-trump-may-soon-kicked-home-loves/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=CTBreaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=conservative-tribune
These people are evil. Pure, undiluted evil. They fear him. That is all. They are terrified of him. He has not said a word in two weeks and they are terrified of what he may be thinking. They do not know what he is doing or going to do. THEY ARE AFRAID. The author of the piece is right. The TBGADS is bad. Really bad.
they’re going to make sure he has no peace even out of office. they can sink this low
https://www.westernjournal.com/donald-trump-may-soon-kicked-home-loves/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=CTBreaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=conservative-tribune
Trump won the election. Biden’s butt was kicked. They all know it. The argument is that there was fraud, just not enough to change the outcome. if that’s true why are they already planning to try it again. You do it because it worked,not because it failed. If the Republicans had had more spine maybe the duly elected Pres would be in his 2nd term. Unfortunately Pence was a traitor. Trump said at the Save America rally how he was counting on Pence to do the right thing. He thought Pence was a principled human being just like i did. Cruz was another one i thought was principled. Turns out he has an agenda too. Nunes and Jordan may be the only 2 ppl in Congress you can trust. Want to see what the Democrats do when they fail to cheat their way into an election? How about Republican Claudia Tenney of NY. The Dems REFUSE to certify her and they’re sticking with it. They ALMOST cheated her but now they’re just refusing to certify her. If only the Republicans had had that kind of spine when it came to Trump.Trump’s best shot was the Supreme Court. That was the last straw. i think Trump knew it was a fait au complait when the Supreme Court wouldn’t hear the case. My heart sank because i had the feeling it was over at that point. He didn’t call it the Save America rally for nothing. Pence could have stood up to the fraud,called for an audit and the worst that could have happened is that it might have been forced into the Supreme Court as being unconstitutional. Now the Dems are trying a new bill to make sure they can do the same things in the 2022 and 2024 elections. Unconstitutional? Yep. Will that stop them? How’d it go the first time?
Actually, all Pence had to do was to honor the letter that 100+ state legislators from the battleground states submitted to him, asking him to delay the counting of electoral votes by just 10 DAYS. They had not been in session (and their govs and AGs would not call an emergency session) — but they would be in session soon, and wanted 10 days to examine the fraud and irregularities that had been exposed, and make any adjustments in their votes.
Pence could have delayed the vote by 10 days, let the states do whatever they needed to do, and then count all the votes the states submitted 10 days later. No one was asking him to overturn the election, or not count votes from the states in question. Pence was the one who stated that he would count all legal votes, and discard all illegal or fraudulent votes. Instead, he folded like a cheap suit.
This why we need a new political party. It is simply too difficult for an outsider to govern with no help from either political party, and that was Trump’s situation. He had no base of supporters to make staff picks from, and he a got a lot of very bad advice on some crucial picks.
true but the pool was very small. can you list the people he could absolutely trust? people even you would not be the least suspicious of. Man,i am scratching my head on that one. It’s difficult.How about you? Any picks knowing what we know now ?
Nothing short of a miracle that PDJT accomplished as much as he did (and it was a LOT!), given the resistance within his own party, his cabinet, and his administration.
I really thought the military had his back. Now we know they didn’t.
All is lost.
President trump should have cleaned house on day 1. His biggest mistake and failing was in not realizing that there was no working with these people – they are all against him and have no interest in making government work better or in helping the American people.
But Jody, Trump was a political novice. He didn’t even expect to win in 2016. He has great instincts for business, but at that time, not politics. He is certainly a quick study, but Trump must have been surprised and definitely disappointed in how ruthless politics is.
I remain proud of the man and am crushed that the system destroyed him with an illegal election.
How do we take back our government now that we know its so corrupt we cannot reform it. With HR1 the demonrats are changing voting laws so they control the vote. Even if you had a lawful president without a stolen election they still don’t comply with lawful orders.
Trump himself would now admit he would have been much more aggressive in hindsight methinks.
For those watching the past 5 years, never has sooo much been exposed.
Perhaps the baton went as far as Trump could push it. Hopefully somebody else will pick it up.
In summary, No Man Rules Alone. We cannot hope to reform the System if we don’t understand how it has ‘always’ worked throughout human history.
We now know that even if an overwhelming majority of voters put a MAGA president into office they will be outnumbered by traitors at all levels. In 2016 MAGA caught the uniparty by surprise due to their own arrogance. The uniparty didn’t make the same mistake again in 2020.
We must do a better job at developing our own Keys to Power.
First we are the majority by a wide margin, but that doesn’t matter without an honest election system. Everyone must press their State Representatives to do just that. Don’t think just because you are in a Red State now that you can’t be turned Blue via fraudulent election system. It can and it will. We must fight for an honest elections system everywhere. We have good chance of that in 29 States right now.
Second, regardless of forming a true 2nd party or GOP takeover, we need a source of funding that is based upon pro-MAGA and not the anti-MAGA interest groups of the uniparty. A Representative cannot serve two masters. If MAGA voters elects them but they are funded by anti-MAGA sources; we know from decades of experience that they will eventually betray the MAGA voters. Follow the money.
Again we have the advantage in terms of numbers and there still exist a number of Main Street interest groups and other social issues that will we can muster funding from. Just the act of consolidating and standing up a pro-MAGA media/social network company to fill in the vacuum would generate significant funding. Imagine the money that could be raised by just producing pro-MAGA movies again.
Anyway, if you think the system is unfair, it has always been unfair to people that don’t understand it. Understand how it works and then develop pro-MAGA Keys to Power at all levels of government. Then the next time we get a MAGA President into office they won’t be so outnumbered as PDJT was.
What’s with all the negativity here today?
I don’t like what happened anymore than anyone else here but bashing the one person who opened our eyes to the truly evil swamp seems counterproductive in my opinion.
Pendulums swing both ways and I believe that this one has almost reached as far left as it can go and will have to swing back to center/right eventually.
As with all dictators they eventually overreach and even their most ardent supporters rebel.
I still believe in President Trump and am thankful that he opened my eyes to much of what I didn’t know.
I suspect it is a coordinated attempt to discourage and demoralize President Trump’s supporters. It is meant to bolster the claims that “Trump has divided the republican party” and “there is a civil war going on in the republican party”. The TBGADS is not only on the left. The Trump hating neverTrumpers and repugnican GOPe Inc shills got it bad too.
As far as I am concerned they can post all the negativity, bashing and the “its Trump’s fault” they can muster. I shall not be moved.
I am and will remain an ardent Trump supporter.
When the virus came on the scene in early 2020, the stage was set for Trump to lose the election.
There was no single person or group of persons who had an impact on the election outcome anywhere near the impact delivered by the virus.
Everything bad that happened to Trump during the election period can be traced straight back to the virus.
Example: The courts, the preservers of the Constitution, were disconnected from that role, in effect, allowing themselves to become subservient to the virus.That effect continues to this day.
If the virus had not come on the scene when it did, Trump would still be in office.
I’m surprised at how little is said about the virus on this thread. It seems like it’s election effect is, for the most part, ignored. Rather, the thinking seems mostly centered around some Trump related personality or other and how that person was a good guy or a bad guy. Interesting, maybe. But not all that useful. IMO.
Trump hired these disloyal unAmericans. He must assume responsibility for their betrayals.
If President Trump decides to return for a 2nd term, he better be ready to fire everyone at least 5 levels down in all the departments and agencies and replace them with pre-vetted loyalists, just like the Cadaver’s handlers are doing. Moreover, he should invest in ensuring by 2024 the House and Senate are run by “America First” GOP majorities. Or it is all for naught, alas.
But really our first order of business is getting GOP majorities in the state legislatures to fix what happened in 2020. Serious election integrity legislation, alongside fighting whatever legal monstrosity Pelosi and Schumer get passed in the courts all the way to SCOTUS, where at least a couple of the justices still remember how to spell the word “federalism.”
Like the photo bc i think the evil pence was behind a lot of appointments.
I cant imagine being trusted by a man of Mr Trumps caliber, then working vs him behind his back.
Pence is in a league w graham mittens and the bushes. Rotten
It is time for term limits. It is the only way to get the corruption out of our government,
Well, I don’t think it’s that simple. Trump is free to disregard his advisors. Bolton was a vigorous advocate for increased militarization. Trump blew him off and even chastised him (which really pissed Bolton off).
No, I think it’s more complicated than advisors refusing to allow Trump to declassify stuff. It’s this:
Trump knew what life would be like as a former President. The lawsuits are coming. They’ll be civil; they’ll be criminal; they’ll be against Trump but also his whole family. They’ll be baseless, but there will be an onslaught of them. And they will be expensive. Trump may have billions, but this is a real threat. That’s the real point of them.
Trump knows this. We’ll read about them in the coming months and years. Faced with this inevitability, Trump knows that he needs some allies — or at least he can’t afford to make enemies out of some who might otherwise remain neutral.
If he declassified a trove of things — not just Russiagate, but a host of other things as well — there are many in Congress and Washington circles whose corruption would be exposed. What corruption? Obviously, we saw it with Russiagate. But, Joe Biden gave us the playbook on how it’s done. Get elected to a high office and trade your influence (e.g., loan guarantees for Ukraine) for personal profit.
If you think only Joe Biden is playing this game, you’re foolish. And, it’s not just Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. Nor is it just Democrats. These are the things that the Washington power elite don’t want exposed. By not declassifying more, and by not pardoning folks like Assange, Snowden or Ross Ulbricht, Trump did not upset this apple cart. They can go on embezzling and selling you out as before. People rarely ask how Maxine Waters, Bernie Sanders, Harry Reed or Elizabeth Warren go into public service earning a modest six figure salary but all manage to end their careers as multi-millionaires. Joe Biden showed you how it’s done. This is what Trump could have further exposed. But, he doesn’t need extra enemies as he leaves office. And, so he didn’t declassify the material that would have exposed these folks. That’s my take.
As much as I would hate to lose him as my governor, my impression of Ron DeSantis’ performance, I would like to see him as President Trump’s VP.
They are both Florida residents.
So the master Trump got played? This thread seems incomplete.
Let’s look at a few key players.
Ric Grenell released a number of items. He had successes – in a short period of time.
John Ratcliffe – stealth Swamp? He and / or his team delayed a CRITICAL report on foreign election interference which could have had a dramatic impact. You’rd the boss. Marshall extra forces, bring in committed Managers, and get er our. FAIL.
Mike Pompeo – in for himself? His Twitter feed the last few days of the Trump Administration read rather self serving.
DOJ. So Jeffrey Rosen is Swamp, too?
Who’s left, who is honest? The DOJ Prosecuting Attorney from MO, Jeff _____?
And where was the vaunted trump “leverage”?
There weren’t as many cabinet positions when Washington was President. He was a General who’d just won America’s freedom so the advising and consenting hadn’t devolved into a bunch of egomaniacs in the Senate pontificating on appointee’s moral and physical fitness for office. Future Presidents should just put people in cabinet positions and let the Senate advise and consent. In other words, even if Senators don’t agree to an official appointee that should be regarded as their advice only, even though they don’t consent.