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“This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can’t be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won’t be done. The Founders’ Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.”
“But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.”
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https://issuesinsights.com/2021/01/29/bidens-worst-executive-order-went-almost-entirely-unnoticed/
Here comes the invigorated regulatory state. The impact on our economy is going to be tragic. Sundance warned us.
Thus shall Atlas shrug!
With so many regulations already swamping America, it will equal no regulations. People will just ignore it. .
Impossible to not violate so many regulations. This makes all of us criminals of some sort over night.
Check out the book Three Felonies a Day by Harvey Silverglate.
The author estimates the average American unwittingly commits 3 felonies a day, hence the title.
Lol,
I read years ago when a law is nonsensical it gets ignored.
It reminds me of this fisherman who was the only guy in town who was able to catch fish out of this little lake outside of town. The Game Warden was curios and asked the fisherman if he would take him fishing his next day off. The fisherman said “sure”.
The fisherman and game warden was in their boat in the middle of the lake and ready to fish. The ‘ole Fisherman reached in his metal box and pulled-out a stick of dynamite. The Game Warden was aghast and with loud voice, “Hey, that is totally illegal”.
Upon which the ‘ole fisherman struck a match lit the stick of dynamite and handed it to the Game Warden. Then the ‘ole fisherman asked the Game Warden, “Are you going to fish or are you going to sit there and bullshit”? Lol
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The great Jerry Clower did that one once. It was great as are all Jerry Clower bits.
Here is a great info-graphic from Epoch Times that shows the regulatory reign of terror from Week 1 of Chi Com Joe’s administration. Truly horrifying.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/bidens-first-week-in-office_3677413.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-01-30
Most excellent! Many thanks for the link!
Makes me want to vomit.
Who planned all these EOs in the backgtound in the year before the election and knowing the innevitable outcome? Biden is an autopen. Kam’la stands in the background like a tulip. Neither have any clue!
LAWFARE
The Oh So Clever Democrat Junto is operating as if there is an inverse IXth Amendment that guarantees the Federal Government any powers or anything at all not forbidden by our Constitution, like running someone of the caliber of Biden for POTUS and ruling by unending Executive Orders. Has that bad Obama smell. He’s a “constitutional scholar” dontcha know…
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
The IXth was introduced by Madison prodded by reluctant ratifiers to make it absolutely Crystal Clear that the People’s Rights were NOT just limited to the Bill of Rights but we possess unenumerated Rights as well.
We have never transferred our sovereignty to anyone else, if you disagree let me see it in writing. In the same way we delegated powers by We the People, we can assert our innate sovereign power ( don’t laugh, it’s the basis of our government) and recall these traitorous turkeys. Never mind it’s not listed in our 1787 Constitution. It’s a power that is Retained by the People, as spelled out by the IXth Amendment.
The delegates to the Constitutional Convention, on Sept 16, 1787, with crops in the field, were anxious to close out and go home. They never provided for a situation where the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of government were ALL colluding to deprive us of a Republican (Representative) Form of Government.
Yes but in todays absurd WOKE logic. Joe Biden “IS” “The People”. The press has declared it to be so.
At least read the article before posting. This EO is internal to the functioning of Government. It removes requirements to assess the cost of a regulation or government decision.
This opens the door for Green New Deal, Guaranteed Income and Medicare for ALL like decisions as well as Trade Agreement related decisions.
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Why do you assume I did not read it?
Thank you!
Your comment had zero to do with the article.
The province of Ontario, Canada, ran a Guaranteed Income Pilot Project, a couple of years ago. The trial was for 3 years in 3 communities, approximately 4000 people received the payments.
The Project was cancelled after several months. It would have burdened taxpayers with steep tax hikes, and also affect deficits. Therefore was determined to be expensive and unsustainable. Politically, both Conservative and Liberals agreed not to pursue this avenue.
So all this chatter about Utopia isn’t realistic, considering where we are headed with the economic fallout from covid and the recession.
The fact that Canada attempted 2 yrs ago the same idea the Dems are now promoting — and the Dems KNOW it failed– makes the Dems all the more insane or hell-bent on destroying the USA.
Its really scary to know that one political party really does seek the destruction of our/their own country.
Must be deliberate b/c they just aren’t this stupid… so it must be malice.
I think the Dems are just pandering to the far left socialists. Would just be fools gold. Wait until the recession really kicks in, this pseudo Biden Admin. wont be able to hold their heads above water.
Are they setting up for covid, guaranteed income, etc because they KNOW their job killing policies are going to cause millions to be dependant on the government, as a result of the policies they are enacting?
Sure seems that way.
Perhaps the compare/ contrast beyween Biden admin and Trump admin, will finally educate many Americans, to focus on POLICY, instead of PERSONALITY.
POLitics and POLiciy have the same root, for a REASON;
POLitics is the process for detirmining public POLicy.
Personality DOES come into it, when evaluating if a POLitician is honestly representing the POLicies they will advocate for. But FIRST evaluate whether you agree with the policies, THEN evaluate whether the politician will really work to enact them, AND will they be effective.
Many voters are already having buyersremorse, cause they didn’t pay ANY attention to what Biden/Harris SAID they would do, on POLICY.
Hope the idiots learn, POLitics is ALL about POLicy.
Regarding personality, anybody critical of Trump’s personality, really needs to listen to Biden over the years….nasty, belligerent, condescending. Personable is irrelevant in running a strong functioning, prosperous country. Besides, Trump gets the job done. Results, and that’s why he gained so much support.
The Dems just could not accept losing, or someone who would actually work for the people and shake up the status quo. Voters will soon face a rude awakening when Biden’s policies, via dictate, are a colossal fail.
And it’ll be interesting to see how Biden interacts with other G20 leaders. They won’t be able to prop him up and an earpiece wont work.
See the post above, regarding the littile noticed EO Biden signed. Effectively, they will not be objectively evaluating “cost/benefit analyses”, on any regulations going forward.
See, how easily they “solved” that problem?
There’s a little law called the Unfunded Mandates Reform Act of 1995, PL 104-4 that might get in his way. This is where we need to be active locally and ensure our local governments protect our rights being taken over by overreaching federal government. If Congress manages to repeal this law, then all hell will break loose.
https://www.gsa.gov/policy-regulations/policy/federal-advisory-committee-management/legislation-and-regulations/unfunded-mandates-reform-act
2 USC §1501 (1995) The Unfunded Mandates Reform Act
Any major piece of regulation, which is defined as those having an impact of $100 million or more, would require a written justification by the regulating agency. Big Deal!
https://www.epa.gov/laws-regulations/summary-unfunded-mandates-reform-act
The more effective law would be the REINS Act which would require any major piece of regulation to automatically go back to Congress for a vote.
https://ballotpedia.org/REINS_Act
Local governments can set up their own environmental and regulatory plans. The law requires the Federal Government to coordinate with the local government before changes are made.
Coordination involves federal laws that require the federal government to meet local government to resolve differences in their plans. An executive order enhanced Coordination by allowing numerous entities, including non-governmental organizations, to engage the federal government. Any local government — from a city or county to a school or water district, and any NGO — may invoke Coordination, thus forcing the federal government to meet with them on an equal basis to reach consistency in their plans.
https://www.alec.org/model-policy/an-ordinance-for-local-coordination-on-federal-regulations/
That builds on what I was saying above. MAGA must be active locally. We must bang on the doors of local government officials and demand to be heard. These tyrants in Washington will start thinking twice when they start getting push-back from their counterparts in local counterparts. I can’t stress how important putting pressure on local government is now.
The Federal government does not, legally or Constitutionally have nearly as much authority as they revularly excercise.
Over many years, CONgress has taken on authority over many aspects of life, and regulatory agencies have carried out this power grab, using withholding of federal $ to enforce what they can NOT enforce thru the Courts.
Some examples of the limits of Federal overreach;
You think the “Gun free school zone” is a Federal requirement, based on a distorted interpretation of the Commerce clause? Well, it IS, but its not actually a requirement; several jurisdictions have told the Federal government to pound sand, and do NOT have “gun free school zones.
A POTUS Proclamation to put Flag at 1/2 staff, as written ONLY applies to Federal properties, same with Bidens mask mandate.
Whether by executive order, or Federal legislation passed and signed into law, such things as “Common core”, can NOT be forced on the States. Hence they use the threat to withhold fdderal funding as a cudgel, to force States to comply.
This has played a MAJOR role in the vast growth of the Federal buerocracy, and regulatory overreach, and move away from the Founders intent.
The pressure on State legislatures to enact election reform should just be a starting point to encouraging State governments to reject Federal overreach, and assert States rights.
This would be a major impediment to the conmunists attempted takeover, a blocking action long overdue.
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Your observation is very important.
Patriots can counteract bad federal policies by lobbying at their state and local levels to REFUSE FEDERAL FUNDING from the git-go.
This is the backdoor trick for decades that has subverted the Constitution. It became popular as the result of the implementation of the federal income tax, and state and local governments justify taking the funds as their way to “get back” this flow of money to Washington. But resist. Remember the adage: beggars can’t be choosers.
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Some thoughts should be kept to oneself.
either a troll or saboteurs to shutdown this site like parler. They only need a few operatives to make a case.
Yep, I’m surprised that comment hasn’t been nuked from this site already.
BINGO. Sundance has already said he has a target on his back.
Day 12 of Psych Ops, a daily onslaught of turning the world upside down and shaking. The purpose is to keep people disoriented, in fear and in shock, while totalitarians make further advances in locking down total control.
Two major operations are being run in parallel.
OP 1: Lock downs, masks, vaccines, and the creation of the US public passport due to China Virus and Domestic Right Wing terrorists,with Public Passport-Report Card being the objective. The report card is just a badge reader and data base connections away, as Existing Hard ID’s and Cell Phone IDS’ at all levels are now ALL “readable”.
OP 2: All the public admissions of oops we got it wrong on all sorts of China Virus topics will come out in public and show trial of the 6 January DC terrorists, in parallel with OP1 . Once OP 1 is complete, the “new science” will have been created and government will declare a miracle but issue warnings of the need to be vigilant for the NEW Wave and those pesky Right Wingers, what card do you have in your wallet or on your phone, “don’t leave home without it”.
Progress on implementing OP 1 objectives, by Big tech, will be the key determining factor on when the US will reopen.
The US will reopen either
1. When WE excercise our rights to remove masks and fully open our businesses as WE see fit.
2. Allow them to keep making the rules, complying, submitting and living in their “new normal” when THEY decide.
We have much more power than we currently think we have.
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The only person who is going to tell you not to wear a mask, IS YOU!
Yep, that’s my point. I am not seeing 75 million maskless patriots, belly to the bar with a beer, or in church pews. ON US
You do what the government says. You better never talk back. because they will destroy you. (name anything that counters that – besides 1 guy at the end of his rope on youtube video – that STILL LOSES HIS Business.
Are you willing to be destroyed just to Save America?
no group is coming to save you.. we have noticed that it takes months of being destroyed before 1 person takes a stand- and then they still get destroyed. (the gym in ny – the treasury seized their money they raised).
Point is, the Left kicks our ass any day, and every day, on knowing how to get stuff done. We cant even find 2 people in our neighborhood that would run to our door if cops were trying to take our guns.
2 people.
the LEFT HAS MOBS of people in every state ready to mobilize in a single TWEET.
We are talkers. idea people. online people. our marches get hijcakced by public relation firms and turned in White Supremacist Rallys or Domestic Terrorist EVENTS for the FBI to listen to our calls for no REASON.
why does this happen? Because we dont have a single manipulative, deceptive bone in our body, and we walk right into ass kickings.
if you can’t TRAIN US TO GET USE TO Organizing groups in short time requirements, then we are just one pluck at a time events by cops. Look at the HOOD – they have learned!!! (immediate recordings of the cops, immediate mobs coming out of every home and surrounding the cops)..
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a cop goes to your home and says give me your guns. You argue , get beat down or shot, and its OVER. period.
it gets repeated OVER AND OVER. because we cant organize in a manipulative intelligent manner. We walk right in the Devil’s lair telling him EXACTLY what we are doing, and he destroys it…
“March for Moms” who died needlessly from putting Covid Positive people into nursing homes, and blocking us from getting our parents out.
Janice Dean, Scott Pressler, – in every state – to create a FOOTHOLD presence again in the STREETS (that cant be called white supremacist or domestic terrrorist).
you get organized LOCALLY on a non-defamable topic.
you use the nursing home issue to push back on the use of COVID AS A GOVERNMENT TOOL TO DOminate you (by saying that TOOL WAS ABUSED and caused DEATHS OF MOM)
you use the nursing home issue – to meet people that would march LOCALLY – and stay in touch with them – to have them RUSH TO YOUR HOME if you are ever TAKEN or APPROACHED by the GOV.
you use this issue for WHATEVER YOU WANT – its your TOOL against their COVID TOOL…
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the nursing home MARCH is the VACCINE for the COVID weaponization
Stupid Biden voters have moms.
Stupid independents that voted for Biden have Mom
Stupid college kids have MOMS and love to get involved with feel good marches
FBI has moms, CIA has moms, Government workers have moms
you UNITE Americans over a topic – and only your hardened enemies won’t join.
I agree with what you said.
But there is nothing to prevent them from embedding Antifa types in your March for Mom organizing and start a riot like they did on January 6th and then claim right-wing domestic terrorists have hyjacked the March for Mom organization. That’s what they do.
you get cops to march with you… national guard to march with you.
and point out any embeds of anyone on your own team doing violents and hand them to the COPS.
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for every worry you have a contingency plan can be made to resolve it.
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the jan 6th could easily be hicjacked – cause its intent – and presentation of a show of force to contest an election.
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This one Wont be that easy – because its Alinksy’s book shoved up his ____.
Focus on the problem and the problem gets bigger.
Focus on the solution and the solution gets bigger.
Good simple words to remember that are a great reminder. I wrote them down.
Thank you for your very excellent point KnowSERENoFear!
Our Founding Fathers and Mother became American Patriots when they banded together from 13 colonies who had 13 different contracts with Britain.
It took quite a while and a lot of pain for these 13 colonies to realize that they had to give up the original contracts that they had signed with Britain and band together to throw off the oppression.
They still thought of themselves as good British citizens and wanted to obey the laws of Britain,
We must correctly identify the problem and then focus on the solution.
A certain amount of energy and discussion to identify the problem and then all of that must go to the solution.
Then don’t march.
Hmmmm. You may have missed something. Biden voters dont care about their parents. For them its all about me.
Maybe, but some of them are real mama’s boys.
Not buying into this apocalyptic scenario you are painting. Not saying it isn’t what COULD happen or what they WANT to happen, just saying, IMO, going maskless, en mass and opening business en mass, NOW, will cripple them. Even they don’t have the ability to chase us all down (and we don’t need all). If we are too afraid, then we are a comprised people, doomed to be controlled.
Not talking about you tube, twitter, media or marches. Not elections or parties.
Merely leading our fellow citizens to a return, peacefully to normal life. ON US.
the March is easier to do than getting people to not wear a mask.. That is the SICK REALITY.
I’ll support the Take of the Mask movement. and try it first. lets start trying everythign and see what works.
Absolutely Whiteboard. Wars are fought on multiple fronts.
YES oldschool!
YES YES YES!
On my walks around the local lake, I make it a point to thank “ mask less people for not wearing a mask. Start small, start local.
Me too!
Many thanks and a hundred upvotes Gary Siegel!!!!!!
The Stand Up Michigan organization is promoting “Ditch The Mask” this month. It’s the type of movement we need everywhere!
Good idea WhiteBoard, why not do both.
Both are excellent ideas, can be organized and supported by many and pulled off with a lot of support by all of us.
There are millions and millions and millions of us, plenty of people to go around and get the jobs done.
The last thing our enemy wants is for us to start getting along and to work together.
We are formidable and unstoppable when we do that.
You get no argument from me on that one. It took me months with some in my inner circle of friends. Others are still cowering under their tables. But we have to try, like the pied piper.
I get it,,, and taking off the mask is a less expensive example for others. to inspiring them.
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it sounds cowardly (what I am about to say; after thinking it) but I’ve started taking the mask off right after I pay for my groceries.
At that point all they can do is say leave… and I still make some point.
Bravo! You gotta start someplace Whiteboard!
You have to start somewhere WhiteBoard!
Well said! If we fear taking control of our own lives, we’ll never take back control of the country.
Some can’t afford to lose their job. I finally got an email from HR, which said ‘wear a mask in the common areas’ (lunch room, etc.) or face disciplinary action. This, after 9 months of not wearing a mask. Now I just write things like ‘Hi Karen’ or ‘ Made in China’ on the worthless blue masks they give me.
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What are they threatening to do discipline-wise?
If not wearing a mask does not effect your work product, it sounds like you are being discriminated against, especially if they did not care prior to the Bribem coup . . .
“Hi Karen” Thanks for the laugh?
If your state has anti-Klan statutes, concealing your identity by wearing a mask may be a crime. I wrote the Florida anti-Klan statutes on a white face diaper with the slogan ‘This mask is a violation of Florida law.’ I only wear it when absolutely necessary–like going to get groceries at Publix.
Masks are about compliance, not protection. Just ask OSHA. The cheap surgical masks, gators, and bandanas will never protect against a virus. OSHA will not approve these for workers exposed to particulate matter or dusty work environments. If a workplace hazard is identified then a health risk assessment must be completed. If a risk is identified and quantified then a protection plan, required safety measures such as effective personal protective equipment or other measures plus appropriate training is required. When are all the employees required to wear masks which don’t protect against this dreamed up safety risk going to raise the flag and ask what is truly going to be done to protect them? That would be too expensive and since it is really about compliance and not protection that will never happen.
Agree and in all my years of nursing, I never asked an infectous patient to wear a mask to protect me. I suited up to protect myself. Likewise immuno compromised patients wore masks or stayed home to stay protected. They didn’t ask the world to don a mask.
COMPLIANCE AND CONTROL.
Agree generally with what you wrote but did notice that while you used quotation marks a number of times to identify things your were skeptical about… “domestic right wing terrorists” AND “6 january DC terrorists” was not one of them. Why not?
You assign a thought where it does not exist, try reading the whle comment and stop putting words and thoughts where NONE are expressed. Quotes are also used for Empahsis. Back to your 4-D chess.
I made a fair point.
And yes, I have, sometimes & still do, believe that PT had a brilliant 4D plan to “drain the swamp.”
Obviously, it won’t be possible to expose and stop the severe corruption inside the US govt w/NO strategic plan… so I believed the President had one and also had a trustworthy team to help him implement it.
It was reasonable to TRUST PDJT when he declared “we caught them all.” To me, that meant the seditionists would be brought to justice.
In my naivety I still HOPE that will occur.
He did Catch them ALL. thats why the full blitz on him occured.
he didnt just catch DC EMPIRES – .. he found out the CIA is in our databases and its co-working with non official cover American Oligarch for “National Security” — Maginstky Act… Magintsky… (AKA Bill browder was in Mark Warners Text with Adam Walden).
that was the day we knew POTUS had 4 years or revolution.
thedocoo,
You seem to be in scolding mood. Some guidance on using quotation marks:
Generally, putting words in quotes indicates the words are either a) an actual quote or b) noting a bit of sarcasm. Emphasis in plain text can be tricky
THIS is why I often CAPITALISE words in my comments; its NOT intended as yelling, its just to EMPHASIZE what I am saying.
Like putting /s after a comment, that it seems to the writer is obvious sarcasm.
We lose a lot, in communicating “virtually” without facial expressions, body language and tone of voice,…have to try to communicate those things in other ways, such as,…
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Typing on a phone screen with urgency to respond does not enhance the level of discussion and subsequent understanding.
As Sundance has ask of us often “seek to understand before seeking to be understood.”
Have you been following the MAGA Psy Ops we are doing to them?
Theirs is out in the open for all to see – and counteract.
Big buncha dummies.
Ours…well, let’s just say they’ve no idea what is working against them. lolol
Who conducts Psy Ops loudly and out in the open?
The quiet ones are always the most dangerous.
Shh…
Don’t tell them.
We want it to be a surprise.
You are describing a Doctor Strange Love situation…when a deterrent actually a deterrent? when it is known. How can an operation NOT be public??? Secrecy means zero unless impact is noticeable, your comment makes no sense.
This is listening to the 4-D chess comments of the past 4 years.
By centering ourselves on the greatness of God and praying effectively for God’s plan to be implemented as written, and praying that we perform our part to the very best of our ability, we shall win.
Praying effectively means we visualize as best we can, the perfect outcome we desire. Centering that outcome as what victory God wants, helps to purify that vision.
Patience on our part is necessary. Things don’t happen when we want, but rather as planned in God’s perfect plan. Pray that we can understand it as it unfolds before our eyes, pray that we be used as a tool for God’s greatness and glory to shine and be witnessed by all.
I believe God will not let the innocent little children suffer. I pray each day that God will reveal my part in making sure they do not. I also pray for the strength to do my part.
Why do you believe God will not let the innocent little children suffer?
I’m sorry to pop your bubble, but millions of innocent little children (of all ages) suffer horribly every minute of every day. Perhaps you should re-read the Bible and listen to God’s Word, instead of whatever “leader” has your ear.
Just sayin’.
You’re right, and I guess I forgot about all the suffering that has been going on in this world even before covid since I’ve been so focused on the suffering caused by the virus restrictions. It certainly changes one’s perspective on what is happening. Things could be worse. We still need to fight to keep them from getting worse though.
Of course, I will still pray to God to protect the children and still ask for guidance on what I should be doing.
In this world horrible things happen to children and all sorts of innocent people. You are hopelessly ignorant if you don’t know this. It’s up to us to try and stop this but evil has caused many to go against God’s teachings and the result is that for many hell is on earth.
Hi, 104.
How you be?
I’m with you.
Awesome, thanks for asking. Thanks, I appreciate the company!
You have great faith, 104MAGA. You explain it so well too. Thank you. My faith needs to be more like yours.
Thank you, I pray I live up to what you’ve said.
Pssshh. Usually, their psyops ends with them shooting themselves in the foot. Loony Tunes irl, but not as entertaining. XD
Respectfully disagree. We have been outed big time. They sold us a BS story and into a fearful hysteria. Look at us, lining up in masks outside, in the frigid weather, begging for an untested “vaccine”, leaving loved ones to be sick and die alone (and not from COVID), no burials, weddings, parties, isolating from friends and family, going down aisles one way, shutting down our livelihoods. I would never have believed it possible for them to accomplish so much, so fast. We’ve been exposed far more than they have.
Exposing them is meaningless without action. Exposing us now provides them with the information they need to take it to THEIR next step.
We have power if we wake up and use it.
Correct.
I agree. Your post is the truth.
Yesterday morning at Walmart: I do not wear a mask at Walmart. After an hour of shopping with no problem, I was in the produce section and a man came right over to me, standing close and started yelling at me and calling me names for not wearing a mask. He said, “you are selfish etc.” For once and for some miracle, I did not lose my temper, I just said, “if your mask works, why do you need me to wear a mask.” And when he persisted, “you have holes all around your mask, letting the air in.” He was joined by his wife (a guess) and she came right over and yelled at me, too. Then he said, “I hope you end up on a respirator dying.” And I said, “I wouldn’t wish that on you, why are you wishing that on me?” They continued yelling apparently really loudly and I muttered “sheeple, sheeple” under my breath and walked away.
I finished my shopping and went to the check out line and got in line. I realized that there was a really handsome, tall, young, county-western looking type man with no mask in front of me. He said, “We heard those people yelling at you.” I hadn’t realized how loud they were. I asked him if they heard me and he said no. Apparently, all the people on the checkout lines heard. At this point the woman in front of me who had a mask on tore it off!!!! And said, ” I’m not doing this either.” The handsome young guy said, “This is all about control.” Other people were smiling at us and nodding. It was quite a thing.
I believe God had a hand in this because I can not remember another time in my life when i kept quiet, didn’t raise my voice and said the right things.
I LOVE this story!!! Good for you! You inspired others and that’s how we start this movement. It was a young mom who inspired me in a checkout line. Someone scolding her. She blurted out, this is bull sh!t, I won’t be controlled. I ripped mine off that day too and thanked her for inspiring this old lady. I love to see brave and smart young ‘uns.
As far as God’s Hand, calming you, I bet you are right and I firmly believe God does not want us hiding our faces. Turn your face to the Lord, and your hearts to His Spirit.
God bless.
I wish I could say I remained calm when a nasty women (not Hillary) attacked me verbally at Publix. Thank goodness my grandbabies were not around. My kids have seen me in action before and they would not care but would not want grandkids to see crazy Nonna.
lol, I get it! I have difficulty with that too. When people tell me to wear a mask, I usually respond “I’m not sick” Of course they the parrot the narrative about asymptomatic spread. I laugh, tell them that’s been debunked and suggest they might be more comfortable at home.
does your job require a mask?
what we are seeing are two diff working societies – ones that require mask and ones that don’t.
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You are so right. It’s easy to avoid wearing a mask if you avoid places where they force you no matter what you say or do. I’m retired so I have that choice most of the time. People who are working DO NOT have a choice.
Also there are other areas where you technically have a choice, but really don’t. One might say you could just not go on airplanes if you don’t want to wear a mask. But what if that choice means you can no longer see loved ones who live across country? It is not always simple to just refuse and believe me, I try!
I can choose not to shop at Walmart or Target or whatever, because I don’t NEED to go there. But they are going to make it extremely difficult to be a part of society if you don’t do what they say – wear a mask, take the vaccine, and only God knows what else. It’s frightening to know the power they have over us.
But I will not allow them to ruin my life. I will pick my battles.
I know , I am a little bit worried because tomorrow I have to renew my drivers license and am not looking forward to a confrontation at DMV.hopefully they let me in.
Tell them you got asthma.
Can’t breathe with it on.
See if you can get your hands on an inhaler or a used one from a friend and fake it.
Works for me about 90% of the time.
The useful idiots where I work complain about people not wearing masks. Then they get right next to each other to gossip or whatever and don’t wear masks.
Now one of them tested positive for Wuhan flu last week.
No. Since March 18,2020 they sent us home due to Covid and we have been remote ever since.
I feel badly for everyone who has to wear them all day at work but in that case they gotta do what they gotta do. You have to make a living.
At the gym they tell me people buy this thing called a “turtle” that holds it from underneath away from your nose so you can breathe. They say it works.
Good for you.
In the same vein, there have been some Flash Mobs, circa 2021,
Where groups of people 8 -10+ individuals have entered a store and walked around without masks.
The local politicians, playing doctor, have made unconstitutional rules making masks mandatory.
They have threatened the store owners.
Rules only work if the citizens consent to them.
We have got to start taking that consent back.
Making a mockery of them with a flash mob is a way to start.
You don’t need to get arrested to make your point.
MAGA, circa 2021
This tactic could be used by the left to target businesses they want closed down…….
And I would NOT put it past them.
It’ll happen, and I don’t think it’ll take too long either.
Dear Jazz, It is unfathomable to me that complete strangers feel it is their right and privilege to lecture, berate and denigrate people they don’t know. (My neighbors, in the super market!) I would wager that many of these people one year ago would not have returned a “Good Morning!” Had it been offered. It seems tyranny extends to some of our fellow citizens as well as the government. Passive/aggressive types who have just been waiting for an opportunity to lash out. They are so righteous!
To be fair…I have not had one person in our local grocery store say a word to me about not wearing a mask this whole year. NOT true at Whole Foods-or Fresh Market. And I get it…it is their business and they’re trying to hold on. I got into it once with a worker at one of the above stores…they said, “You have to wear a mask. It’s the law.”
I said “No, it is not a law.” I asked if they were going to kick me out…He said, “we’ll ask you to leave…”.
“And if I don’t? Will you call the police on me?” I just left my full cart right next to him and left. (I don’t want to get punched!)
My strategy is to do my shopping as fast as possible (I zoom! Avoiding everyone!)…load up my cart with all of my groceries…”Want me to pay and leave or do you want to re-stock all of this stuff?”
Agree oidschool, just returned from shopping at Publix right near the beach and people are still masked up. I don’t see this ending for a long time.They all remind me of zombies.
The people scare me more than the swamp
Hope so.
Other than the clever, long overdue Gamestop maneuver to bankrupt hedgefunds, not sure what else MAGA Psy Ops is doing… but I am not asking either. Prefer it remain inconspicuous.
The WSB is a collection of investors who run the gamut of the political scale. It is not psyops-maga or otherwise, but a wake up call across the board. Politics creates strange bedfellows.
They are the dummies? They’ve stolen an election, persecuting those that speak out against it, run the media (state propaganda), have taken over the education system entirely, the administrative branch of government runs independent of the Executive Branch (effectively neutering the Office of the President), the leadership of the Armed Forces have been purged opposition, Soros attacks conservatism are the state and local levels (and is winning), and then there is Lawfare. And that’s all that immediately comes to mind. And you’re bragging about “psy ops?”
And at every step, THEY have LOST credibility, and with it support, and WE have gained both.
EVERY war is ultimately about “heartsand minds”; and therefore “public support”.
CREDIBILTY is essential to shaping public opinion. Public opinion is ESSENTIAL to shaping public policy.
And, Public policy is what this war is all about.
Look at all sorts of objective metrics, since Opinion polls are part of the enemies deception.
They have steadily LOST, Credibity, hence the ability to shape public opinion, hence they have lost support.
They ALWAYS go for the short term gain,with the false narrative, the TRUTH always eventually catches up with them, and not only destroys the false narrative, but further undermines their credibility going forward.
And, not realising this (cause they are insane) they KEEP DOING IT. And triggering even more people to red pill, and SEE the truth.
You are not puzzled… you are right over target. Everybody is part of this with exception of DJT, MT, and possibly his boys. Not real sure about them at this point.
Dig into his closest advisors and lawyers. Did not think i could get any madder or more disgusted.
We been played from top to bottom and both sides.
If anybody here still thinks we. Need to pin hopes on 2022….you have not dug deep enough.
I understand how you feel… b/c we all KNOW that the Trump Admin did “catch them all.”
And we have all seen the evidence of massive orchestrated fraud in the 2020 election too… so its BIZARRE and difficult to accept… that overwhelming evidence exists for both sets of crimes (textbook sedition) …. yet… somehow the impossible has occurred — both groups of criminals got away with their BLATANT crimes…. at least … so far.
We’ve been [collectively] played by the politicians. The UniParty club with it’s phony “left” and “right” wings has been exposed YUGE.
We now know that the Republican Party is chock full of Traitors and Globalist liars and scum, who pick the worst among them as “leaders”–McConnell and McCarthy.
We know that the mythical Independent Judiciary is destined to protect the illegal power of the Federal Government over the Freedom and Rights spelled out in our Law. The lawyers in Black Robes sit to over-rule We The People and our Law.
We now know that Law Enforcement is a myth, that soldiers in Blue Uniforms exist to enforce illegal dictates of treasonous local officials, not to protect Us from Them.
Who exposed these Facts known only to a few of us beforehand? The greatest President since George Washington–Donald J Trump. The Great Man as spent the last four years working tirelessly for We The Patriot People while being attacked by essentially everyone else. Now what? Are you going to support The Republican Party? Really?
I am going to … WAIT… to hear the plan of the greatest president since George Washington (as you describe PDJT).
IMO, exposing the severe corruption in all 3 branches of the US govt and many states is not sufficient. We NEED court wins. We NEED the “caught” seditionists inside the govt held accountable for their crimes.
As far as the R party goes– i would LIKE revenge, to crush it but do not believe that is the wise thing to do… bc … of the severe danger the dem/fascists pose to the nation IF we give them unrestrained LEGAL power/control over both the Fed Govt & many state legislatures too.
And, it appears PDJT does not support creating a 3rd party. It appears from stmts by his spokesman that HE wants to take REAL control of the Republican party.
Maybe his view will change. If so, I fully intend to follow PT’s lead. I just want the AMERICA FIRST agenda to succeed. I don’t care if that is via the R party or a 3rd party. Its the RESULTS that matters.
I also know that DEMS want to see the R party destroyed and for trump supporters to create a 3rd party splitting conservative/R/blue dog Dem Republican Party…. for a minimum of 6 years. TBH, that likely result concerns me… and it worries me that not many here see this potential, even obvious, danger.
Yes! It is President Trump’s choice- 3rd party or a renewed, cleaned-out R party. Whichever way he goes, I am with him.
JoeBama. I like that.
FWIW, Twitter is now telling those who look to it to tell them what they think, that they (the Twitter believers) are calling the really stupid responses that Jen Psaki gives to a compliant MSM, “Psaki Bombs”.
That sounds confusing. Twitter makes up the things they say are trending amongst its users. Twitter is trying to get people to agree that the really really stupid answers Jen gives to the press are some kind of truth bombs.
The really odd part of this is that the press corp is in no danger of getting out of line with the narrative; so why are they pretending that she is dropping bombs on them?
I am of two minds on this.
I know plenty of “conservative media” sites that have banned people for minor infractions. These same sites are complaining about Twitter banning folks.
Truth be told, these “conservative sites” likely banned more people than twitter (% of their comments). For example, Powerline banned people who complained and openly criticized one of the owners – Paul Mirregroff – who was a rapid Never Trumper.
Ok for these sites to ban people; but not Twitter.
I am just an ordinary person and Twitter barred my account. Someone did not like my “witty responses”. I was never rude. And Twitter opened two “cases” on me. It goes to show they don’t want like minded Trump supporters to communicate with one another.
Why go to Twitter at all? There are better alternatives.
That’s the intent. Large organized group threaten ruling class. Remember the tea party.
Remember many of the so called conservative sources, like the “Heritage Foundation” have been getting large sums of money from Big Tech.
Yes and it’s really sad and frustrating.
Which “conservative media” sites have been banning people? Can you name even one? This sounds a lot like the usual bs that “both sides do it.”
You didn’t read my post, did you. I named Powerline.
IMO, there is a big difference between a monopoly like twitter, and a site for people of mutual interests.
The utility/monopoly should not censor except for illegalities because it is operating under section 230. The sites for people of mutual interests necessarily have to censor or their site is no longer for people of mutual interests.
We have the freedom of choice to frequent the niche sites as we desire, but the “public square” sites like twitter, do not have equivalents we can choose to use.
Very good point.
Little bit of MAGA economic news –
Steve Moore, one of our original MAGA economic architects, has a radio show every Saturday at 1:00 p.m. EST on WABC radio.
Steve Moore will now be preceded by former head of Our President’s Economic Council Kuddly Koala Larry Kudlow every Saturday at noon EST on WABC radio.
MAGA economics is back, baby.
(never really left, did it?)
MAGA on, fellow Non-Essential Chump Deplorables, MAGA on.
(WABC shows and podcasts are available online at WABC radio)
MAGA economics ain’t back, baby, until it’s POLICY.
yep. There’s a new sheriff in town and show hosts are just “talking heads”
I like “MAGA on”
Oh and it never really left it is just getting bigger
President Trump showed the deep state swamp that a leader could actually work for the country he is elected to serve. They hated Trump for it of course, and couldn’t wait for him to be gone so they could get back into the game. The problem for those politicians in place now is, President Trump showed the citizenry that we don’t have to put up with corruption, lost jobs and stagnation,
We, the people, have tasted the power of a real republic under President Trump and we want more of it.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/president-not-king-attorneys-general-blast-joe-biden-signing-record-number-executive-orders-first-week-office/
Even more important was President Trump showed that one does not have top be a member of the Poltical Class to be a leader in government. He focused on decisions and actions based on MAGA principles. That was an anathema to the establishment.
Thats what is needed. Punch back on every push from biden et al. Let’s encourage Texas, Florida, and the true Patriots at every chance. We the people will not be beat back.
I am suspect of the Texas governor Abbott. He is not a supporter of President Trump. Like to see him primaried in 2022 by an American First candidate.
I agree. I am waiting to see who emerges as opponents of “Hey” Abbott. Most of his accomplishments were at the prodding or actions taken by others. His only overt actions to date have been to bow to the Demo-commie County Commissioners over China Virus lock downs.
I suspect the following may be interested, so far:
Crenshaw from Houston – no thanks, just a younger RINO
Ken Paxton – the AG, if he survives DoJ getting after him for the SEC violation and Austin DA suits for sex discrimination.
Ted Cruz – cause he needs to create some sort of record to run in 20204. The TV Stations in TX are working over time to smear him with the 6 January DC Riot.
Dan Patrick – Lt Governor, who has been the real power behind the throne and awful quiet lately.
I’m a Texan. Agree.
Beto O’rourke is thinking of running for Texas Governor.
https://t.me/s/NarrativeReframes?before=88
“What’s Cognitive Dissonance – in short, it’s what everybody in America is experiencing thanks to the overwhelming narrative war that’s been going on for so long.
Why would Government & Corporate elite unleash Narrative Warfare upon their own Nation?
To condition the Population to normalize a particular narrative, or face ostracism and dehumanization.. to condition a Population to normalize a psychological reality they can leverage for perpetuation of power, which means wealth..
President Obama wanted Admiral Rodgers to give 10th Fleet to NATO. Rodgers told Obama to get the hell out of his office.
Big red flag.
He knew it was career suicide.. but being Director of the NSA means he wasn’t without the capabilities of formulating a counter strategy.
And that is when Rodgers met with Donald J. Trump.”
I don’t know if anyone else has read this very long “Narrative Reframes” but it’s interesting. I was never a conspiracy believer but Sundance’s post of Systemic Contingencies” has lead me to a point where there is a lot more going on than We The People have been told. There is a narrative war against us this lengthy Narrative Reframes gets into it. I hope some posters here who are more up to speed on this will take the time to investigate it further. Let me know what you think? TIA
Excellent post, Bubby.
Here is a perfect example of Cognitive Dissonance being created. Two parties makes it that much easier to accomplish, 1/2 of America has been duped
Where is Cornpop when you need him
Where is Chris Kyle when you need him.
The pink mist really should be everywhere by now.
I know this is a bit off topic but yesterday we went to watch my grandson play flag football and for the first time they were told they would be playing against an all girl team. Last year they would have one or two girls on teams and it did not bother me that much but now they have all girl teams competing with the boys. My sons, husband and I thought it was ridiculous and pretty much voiced our opinion and every thought we were over reacting. The referees were being partial to the girls and when they took a TD away from my grandson because he zoomed right past those girls they said he was out of bounds. I had enough and left.
The sad part is we really look forward to these games with the boys to feel some type of normalcy but no they have to always throw in some social BS. Sorry about the rant.
Good luck to your grandson and your family nettahoney.
My sons and daughters in law have finally become fed up with things and now all of my grand children are being home schooled.
They are in sports and various activities but none of them are pushing the girl/boy team BS that your grandson has to put up with.
It has taken a year of my grandchildren being in school and out of school on zoom or whatever they are doing to push my kids into going the homeschool route.
The last hold out finally went to homeschool this month when the new semester started and the school could not give the parents any kind of idea as to how they were going to proceed.
All of my grand children were in private schools but the private schools seem to be under the same covid lock down rules as public schools.
Good luck to you and your family in finding your way through this.
It is not easy and each family must do it their own way.
Interesting rabbit hole; that is, until it got to extolling the seventeenth letter dude/dudette. Sorry; not sorry, but really?
Allowed to board plane in Dallas; detained upon arrival in Canada, Despite having all necessary travel documents. Held, agains her will and with no arrest warrant, in isolation in “undisclosed” location.
This is scary.
https://www.thebuffalotribune.com/post/alberta-woman-held-in-indefinite-detention-after-flight-despite-negative-covid-test
Trudope has done that to several inbound Canadians. Read an article last week, but I can’t remember the reasoning.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Friday announced stricter restrictions on travelers in response to new, likely more contagious variants of the novel coronavirus — including making it mandatory for travelers to quarantine in a hotel at their own expense when they arrive in Canada and suspending airline service to Mexico and all Caribbean destinations until April 30.
Trudeau said in addition to the pre-boarding test Canada already requires, the government will be introducing mandatory PCR testing at the airport for people returning to Canada.
“Travelers will then have to wait for up to three days at an approved hotel for their test results, at their own expense, which is expected to be more than $2000,” Trudeau said.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/canada-joins-new-zealand-shutting-virtually-air-travel-indefinitely-countries/
I think Boris Johnson of England did the exact same thing for people legally coming into England
In order to regroup, in hopes of winning again, we have to take a hard look at the failure of the MAGA movement.
Yes it was a failure. Yes the election was stolen, but when someone blurts out ahead of time that they are going to steal the election, yet they succeed, that’s a failure.
A hard look means truth, whatever it looks like.
Someone on here keeps referring to the Clinton impeachment as being for a zipper crime.
Invariably, when someone makes that assertion, someone else will correct them, stating that the impeachment was for “lying”.
Oh, the horrors! A man lied under oath! Remove a duly elected president for a lie!
What was the lie about? Why was he even being questioned under oath about such a thing? Can you say “perjury trap”?
Remember where the “evidence” came from? Linda Tripp was a Bush holdover. Why did she tell a young intern to preserve a soiled dress? What was the crime?
The truth is, it was the Republicans, the Bush Republicans, who started the whole bogus impeachment scam.
Millions of Democrat voters became disgusted with them over this. Rightly so, IMO.
We want to start winning, we want to rebuild the Republicans, we have to be honest with ourselves.
People are to busy looking across the fence to see what’s in their own yard.
It happens here every day 365. As soon as the MSM throws out a new narrative it’s off to the next.
Forget about the injustice the day before the week before the month before.
They are very good at what they do. Manipulation at its best.
Republicans never stick to a narrative and drive it home.
Just my thoughts. ??♂️
This is what they want- a population in a state of superstitious terror, patrolled by self righteous busybodies, snitched on by informers.
I’d venture to say their social experiment is going to blow up in their face.
“Yes it was a failure. Yes the election was stolen, but when someone blurts out ahead of time that they are going to steal the election, yet they succeed, that’s a failure.”
Clarion, I was thinking as you were at first. I’ve come to appreciate why this had to happen that way. Here. Here’s your towel I just picked up for you. Please have a little more patience before coming to a conclusion like this. We won- we not only won the election, but far more than that. God is great, and His plan is awesome.
I haven’t given up. In order to carry on the fight, we have to know why we lost the battle.
That would be applicable if we lost it. Appearances not only can be deceiving, they’re meant to be.
I agree with your point too.
PDJT did not lose. He is the lawfully elected POTUS… so the Biden regime cannot be permitted to remain indefinitely.
The TRUTH must be revealed and a REMEDY applied– only restoration of PDJT to office as POTUS is an acceptable, appropriate REMEDY.
At the moment, we have a Constitutional crisis.
We lost the battle years ago when apathy and ignorance dictated our voting preference, and what even the school board trustees stood for. Ever been to a school board meeting?
I challenge everyone here to take their kids out of the govt school system. NO EXCUSES!
Yes, that battle we did lose, the war is ongoing. Even after the victory is revealed, we can never become complacent again.
I agree with you…. b/c you are judging based on the result which is PDJT is not in the WH b/c the election was successfully stolen from him… and that is failure.
It IS still tough for me to accept there are NO patriots in military or other govt intel capable/willing to merely DO the right, honest thing– monitor these dominion systems in real time and collect the evidence of fraud on election night and the days following…. and PRODUCE it publically and in court to restore the winner of the election (PDJT) to his rightful place — as POTUS, serving his earned 2nd term.
Both of you are right, except “getting something wrong” is missing the mark and the definition of missing the mark is ‘sin.’ Therefore, repentance is in order. Repentance isn’t just saying I’m sorry, it’s changing ones direction, a total about face, a 180 degree turn.
There is no question we got it wrong. There is no question that God is Great and His Plan is awesome.
However, God’s plan always includes repentance. This is not being included in either one.
So the question is have we repented? In other words, have we fixed the election fraud? Whether that be to correct what already happened Nov 2020 – or – fixed it from ever happening in the future?
The answer is “no.”
So, like any other sin that is left as is, will continue to snowball, take root. Until we fix the election fraud–both Nov 2020 and preventing it from ever happening again; everything else is just sin piled upon sin, building a structure on shaky flaky unstable ground. Will all come tumbling down.
As of this moment, we are not yet in a position to fix election fraud, by all appearances. Yes, repentance is important, and planning now to make those changes will come in handy. It’s not time to implement, yet. It will be. Shortly.
Half the population has seen why that’s necessary, most of the other half will also be convinced. Patience.
Several interesting points have been brought up in this discussion started by Clarion.
Some think we lost the battle and some see it differently.
Donald Trump won the 2020 election but is not in the White House.
We do not know why Donald Trump did not decide to fight to stay in the White House ( he has not conceded the election).
We do not know why he left the Swamp to fight for us from Florida.
We perceive this a “losing” but we do now know everything that went into PTs decision to go to Florida and fight from there instead of staying and trying to keep the Presidency at the time.
We can only speculate and that is a time waster.
Did we win this battle or did we lose it?
At first I was hugely disappointed but now I am becoming more and more encouraged and impressed with the way things are going.
Not one Trump supporter has left Donald Trump and he has picked up many more.
We are all brainstorming as hard and fast as we can as to what WE can do to fix our countries problem.
Pres Trump has set up two Think Tanks and working as hard as he can and has not gone anywhere.
The slimeballs (including Republicans) are huddling in DC behind the National Guard quite possible scared to death to come out.
We have seen some very good ideas posted here and now we need to act on them.
We have ” Met at the old mill at midnight” already so we now must get busy and get to work.
We need to get to work and have some Faith.
We can win this.
Restorative justice?
You are in purgatory – half way to hell. born a sinner. God is not going to spend much time approaching you here. You are here to die for your sins, and be accounted for your good deeds once crossed over.
Praying is not enough.
Good analogy.
Agree, fix election fraud first.
Sorry. Linda Tripp saved Monica’s life and her own with that advice.
I don’t think the MAGA movement failed; it lost a battle not a war. That’s like saying the American Revolution failed when it lost a battle.
Although a complex issue, some things can be simply explained.
Our President felt constrained to follow the Constitution. The Constitution that said that the State Legislatures are the only authority for the conduct of the elections. We the people depended upon said legislatures to honor the Constitution. They did not. They permitted Dem lawfare rogues to scam and persuade Governors, Sec of States, and Judges to trash the Constitution by changing all of the rules that are the sole authority of the State Legislatures. The failure you seek to identify is ultimately as simple as that.
IMO, you are confusing the outcome of the clinton investigation (convicted of essentially a process crime) with whether the impeachment was justified.
IMO, perhaps not with the crime they charged. But the initial investigations were for huge crimes committed by the Clintons that were not and are not in dispute in my mind. The corruption was not “finding” evidence of those obvious crimes.
Lying under oath is an impeachable offense.Especially in the eyes of us who actually behave na moral compass.
I agree with you. I think the problem with the R Party and the MAGA movement is neither has a structure or deep, reliable pockets. MAGA has the pockets of the workers, MAGA has grass roots enthusiasm, but we do not have big donors like Soros and we have no NGO funnels. PDJT won the old fashioned way – with grassroots. I think we’re going to have to organize locally (like we did with the Teaparty) and start taking over locally. We’re going to have to have some structure and we need reliable leaders outside government (not Congressman or Senators who are looking to use us). We also need businesses. We will never get the big businesses, but we need to pull in small businesses. They no longer have representation with COC – so perhaps we need to create a MAGA COC that represents them. Finally we need to learn the Swamp rules and begin to outplay them. That’s what they did to us – destroying the integrity of the vote by making “rules” not laws, destroying small business with regulations (the whim of each administration.)
Our asset is our numbers and our enthusiasm: time and talent. Our deficit is lack of organization. I honestly believe that at this moment, PDJT is in the right place to help us accomplish this. (Although I wish he were President, this situation may be better for the long term if we realize we are in the moment.). PDJT has a career of bringing in the best staff and leadership, streamlining and efficiency, breaking down the problem to achieve best outcome. This is why social media shut him down. Outside DC he becomes even more formidable. No longer focused on the daily swamp attacks and having been inside the swamp, he can take this time now to organize MAGA to be larger than himself – spreading it out into the local, state, business, social groups, religious groups, etc.
This really is MAGA time. Let them be distracted by Biden, the Swamp, etc. Meanwhile let’s pick ourselves up and realize that PDJT really stood alone in DC for most of his term. We were with him but we aren’t in the system. If he could accomplish that much, how much more can be accomplished if we organize and invade the system. We are so fortunate to have him at this moment in time. We likely won’t get another chance/leader like this. It’s time for us to step up and staff his movement.
The crime, which was not addressed, and was worthy of questioning, was the misuse of presidential power and authority over a young intern. Could one say “no” to the most powerful man on earth without fear for life?
Continued shorts sale problems
What happens…
The root cause of the impossibly skewed federal laws and the ineffectiveness of the SEC and other regulatory bodies rests squarely with our elected officials. The securities industry contributes heavily to both parties at the presidential and congressional levels. As long as the public is passive about securities reform, our elected officials are happy to take the money, which at the federal level was 65 million dollars in 2006.
The Democrats swept into power with a promise of ethics reform. Their majority in congress allowed Christopher Dodd (D–CT) to ascend to the chairmanship of the Senate Banking Committee, which regulates the securities industry. His largest single contributor ($175,400) in the first quarter of 2007 was (employees of) SAC Capital, a very aggressive short hedge fund. Are we surprised that Dodd has opposed additional regulation of hedge funds. They are virtually unregulated. (Click here for more on Buying Political Influence).
From https://counterfeitingstock.com/CS2.0/CounterfeitingStock.html
I am still learning about hedge funds.
My current best wisdom is that there is nothing wrong with betting that a stock will go down in value.
The problem is, the manipulation of the market that drives down the price of a stock, like using the media to disseminate rumors and false information about a company.
If there are not laws about this sort of thing, there should be, like there are laws about insider trading.
Read the long dissertation on Stock market fraud and how it’s covered up.. yes there are plenty of rules. They are shill rules not enforced or there are ways to get arround them..
Read about ‘fail to deliver’. That when the stock is not delivered .. most likely because it was a naked short.
Check the link above.. every American investor or future investor needs to understand how the game is played..
The link again.. https://counterfeitingstock.com/CS2.0/CounterfeitingStock.html
Thanks for posting this link, Hans. Super informative! ?
Right… If you look at the system macroscopically, the whole economy is now rigged/ controlled by Wall Street.
Certain stocks are “selected” like Apple and Tesla as holding areas for the printed dollars (hence the unrealistic valuations) and the money is made by shorting stocks as you described above. So, in order to keep the short-game going, you need to have a continuous supply of failing companies, that can either be done by short-term media manipulation or long-term, by instituting policies that will make certain companies and industries non-competitive (like Climate Change policy and uber-regulation).
And if you even want a more macroscopic view, you have to understand that the entire nation of the United States is shorted. (ie it, it must continue on a downward spiral to keep Wall Street profitable) It is the carcass Wall Street is intent on feeding on. (And the Redditors have figured out how to cash in on the same game now. How to make tons of money on failing companies and a failing economy, as absurd as that sounds.)
And this is one of the main reasons Trump had to go. Once main street America begins to turn around it dries up all of the short possibilities. Thus the financial economy and main street economy are in opposition. One does better when the other fails.
And the only real solid companies out there are the Chinese ones (as they make real products), hence Biden reinstating them on the US stock exchange as a refuge for investors who wish to park their money in something tangible (other than in say property or real gold and silver, etc).
So, in order for the US financial class to survive, the real / productive worker-based middle class economy has to perish.
Wakey, wakey…
There are lots of laws. We’ll see some of them in action against the “little people” who legally made the hedge funds lose money.
From what I have read it’s not that simple as it is legal to bet on a stock that will go down.. What happens is these companies get squeezed. The media helps the hedge funders by sending out information harmful to the company. In this case, I’m surprised the situation of the small business owner, or maybe the small chains like Jimmy Johns, weren’t completely compromised. The hedger’s could have taken massive advantage of the lockdowns to short sale on all these companies. Also, there is something about ghost stocks which I don’t understand but it is what essentially is putting them in a corner as well. Just my 2 cents which is about what I have in the stock market.
There isn’t anyone honest to enforce laws when the top 1-5% are involved
…whatever happened to Barney Frank?
He used to be all over the [fake] news. I guess him being 80 yrs old he’s approaching the great equalizer, but that hasn’t stopped Pelosi or Soros or the other over 80 year olds.
Is he still running the “Whore House of Representatives” ?
Frank retired from office eight years ago. One of the endless Kennedys held that MA seat from 2013 to this past election. Now it’s Jake Auchincloss.
“Squeeze Funds” for fun and profit.
When I saw how much fun the short squeezers are having it occurred to me that,
If there are hedge funds that short stocks, there needs to be “Squeeze Funds” to squeeze the hedge funds.
The squeeze fund managers could create false rumors that a company is having problems and when the hedge funds take the bait, squeeze the living funds out of them.
Would that not be fun?
Yes there is more fun being the sqeezer.. just think of if .. fake stock being used to squeeze stock prices down.. and it’s all hidden. The little guy get taken by the big boys..
That s Only the start, starve the beast of money. The Reddit boys and girls got it right we can use force multipliers (groups of investors) to fight wall street and their corrupting influence on politics. Gorilla warfare
the removal of the uptick rule for Short Sales created this mess … makes it much harder to Short Sell a stock …
Peter Strozk’s wife is now head of the SEC. I’m sure things will be all better now. /s
mimbler, I believe the head of the Enforcement Division. Look for all those buying stock to stick it to the large hedge funds to go to jail, forthwith.
I’m wondering who the appointment of Tom Vilsack (Mr. Monsanto) to the USDA, is going to bother the most? It seems to me that the largest group of people with concerns about Big Agra skew liberal in their politics. just as the majority of anti-vaxxers do.
It’s just strange how this administration is throwing it in the faces of liberals as much as we MAGA types.
I guess hat’s what communists do, though.
Old Vilsack is the king of cream. Been getting $999,500 a year salary from the dairy farmer promotion checkoff for the last 4 1/2 years where he supposedly was busy promoting exports. He never stuck around for the Trump transition, just leeched onto the mandated checkoff the second Hillary lost.
No farmer anywhere has any say in whether there should be a checkoff or not – it is designed as a cash cow for the elites by the elites. Every food group has a mandatory checkoff but everyone eats so at the end of the day it’s stupid. The business drummed up by their exports is more than cancelled by the cost cutting imports they also promote. Vilsack was also on other payrolls while milking the dairy farmer.
Communists are just beginning to screw with the food production.
Wait until we have to wait in line.
Wait until they limit the amount of food we can purchase.
They blame it on climate change, over population, some “virus” that has infected the food source, etc..
It’s coming. Redux of the bread lines of Cuba, Soviet Union, China……
If I was them- I would say you food is contaminated with COVId and must be destroyed…. but we will provide food directly to your homes – I….. I would then use that food exchange to documents your names and belongings , and score card you on your behavior (Reception of us being there).
This list would be provided further for the taking of your belongiings, and the herding you to a re-education camp.
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we had 4 years to stock nasty can food up , for just in case.
We deplorables will be given Soilent Green while they eat Organic perfect food !
Don’t tell them about my garden!
Don’t let them know about the hidden room in your basement full of several years of food storage either Bigsky.
Soon it will be illegal to store food, as it already is now in some countries.
Just like it is illegal to collect rain water from the heavens in some jurisdictions.
LEADERSHIP and POWER have replaced REPRESENTATION
Correct me if I am misguided. I understand that we elect a Congress to Represent us. We have not turned over leadership nor power to them.
We understand that it would be unruly for 350,000,000 to come to a consensus as individuals. So, we elect representatives who go forth with an understanding of our smaller group’s concerns.
We do not elect them as if hiring a lawyer or a doctor. We do not see in them some special understanding or magical skills. We elect them because we trust them to honestly represent our interests in the broader discussions of the nation. We elect them because they may have a skill in conversation or public speaking that clearly communicates. We may even elect them because of an ability to persuade.
It is expected, that if some special or unique situation shall arise, that they will return home to us, to share knowledge and to seek our counsel.
The time has come that Congress and We the People MUST stop assigning the power of leadership to our representatives.
Through our own misjudgment and their own ambitions, our representatives have lost our trust in their REPRESENTATION of our interests.
In many ways they have become separated from us. For example: they give to themselves special pensions, they give to themselves separate and unequal health care, and they give to themselves protections that We the People do not share.
The fence around the capital could not be a stronger symbol of this separation and usurpation of power by a few.
To return to a true representative democracy requires a return to consent given not assumed.
The 17th amendment and party line voting are topics to be discussed regarding the path by which we have unwittingly given consent with no true expectation of representation.
What do you mean by that?
And the epicenter is where?
Beijing, of course.
Please Texas secede from the union. 1 That throws a big spanner into the machine. 2 slows everything down to deal with it ( think Brexit or as another poster hear said, Texit ) 3 allows for discovery as to why Texas wants to secede, 4 makes the military become involved because of their bases and ports. I’m sure there are more reasons those are just off the top of my pea brain.
Ya’ll have a blessed day!!
It will never happen. No state will ever be allowed to succeed from the USA.
Sounds good but the powers that be will not let that happen.
Due to national security reasons.
That’s what they would say.
The “insurrectionists” and “white supremacists” and “domestic terrorists” want to succeed from the USA. They must be put down with lethal force just like the Confederates in the 1860’s.
Or that☝️. ? You know what it is Zy.
Secede????
Marching for Mom cant be called any of those..
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I dare you to try and find a way to spin it into one of those labels.. during that exercise it will stregnthen your confidence in how good of a weapon it can be…
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small talk in a line , or at a bar, or anywhere ” I believe my Grandmother was purposefully infected by COVID in her nursing home and murdered by neglect to get the death toll high, and scare us into submission…. I just dont think its right to take her and block me, and I never got to see her again.”
Sorry for your lose.
That story is alot of peoples story. and no Cop would shoot anyone for that Even if ordered to.
To win this war – We just have to make one order of Biden’s get disobeyed (and his authority fades instantly)
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That must have been a nightmare for you….My heart goes out to you, truly……..
It is a horrible story familiar to many but I don’t think WB was claiming it to his/hers. The story starts with “small talk in a line , or at a bar, or anywhere”…
How would DC stop it? Start shooting Texans?
My bet is that other States would join the movement just like the challenge to the election lawsuit. Then what happens? The States get to audit what’s left of election evidence and those who destroyed it would be pressed for answers AND jail time because they broke the law.
It just takes 1 to feel the heat and start the whole turning states evidence to start the ball rolling. That’s the problem now, we have no doj and therefore no justice. But if the state or states order the prosecution of the election fraud because they declare themselves independent of dc and start to press people into flipping then it’s a new ballgame. Is the fbi gonna shoot it out with the Texas NG when they say hey Texas you can’t arrest that guy? See the video of the Police in Ohio who handled the atf guy who wouldn’t comply with their orders. Whoever combined our LE agencies knew that this would weaken them because of chain of command. Used to be they were separate and pushed against each other for jurisdiction of a case. Now the fbi shows up and takes jurisdiction and sweeps it under a rug.
The states need to push back big time against dc. America against 6 square miles that aren’t even a state. What are they gonna do shoot us? Their gonna do that anyway you just won’t hear about them shooting me nor I you. Live the best life that you can, do you get it now?
This.
I get tired of hearing idiots say “it’s against the law to secede.” At the point at which Texas secedes, the citizens have said we no longer recognize your authority or laws. It is precisely what happened on July 4, 1776. Britain called it treason. The Signers said “we don’t recognize your authority to call it that.”
Ultimately, as Mark points out here, it comes down to whether there would be the will to use force by the other states. I suspect they would try to arrest the governor, who would call in the Rangers and maybe the NG.
Other states would join. You can just feel it.
Lead the way Texas ! Then Florida Alabama Mississippi Louisiana Arkansas Oklahoma West by G-d Virginia Parts of Virginia South Carolina western North Carolina Tennessee Georgia looks sketchy
If just 3 of those states joined what could dc do? Start shooten or ask why?
Think about Sundance and his article about covid laws take over from dc. What if some states made their own rules for covid, like no masks and 100% open buisness, interstate commerce, schools, news organizations, taxes ect.?
Texas and Florida with ports and military bases, could be big trouble for dc.
You mean like South Dakota did with their covid laws?
Why oh why did more states, including Texas, not join in with South Dakota in giving the Feds the finger on the covid pushback.
This is something I could NEVER understand.
Texas should have told the whole wide world exactly where to get off when the mask BS and the school shut downs started, should have gone down the Kristi Noem road but for some reason did not.
Can Texans really depend on your elected state officials to pull of this secession business?
LOL, “Georgia looks sketchy” understatement of the year.
Makes me want to puke
Don’t allow Georgia in. That state needs to get rid of the kemp/ratfigger/neverTrumper gang running it first.
The Soviet Union was around for about 70 years, Our nation under communism is now officially in Year 1 although the run up to official status has taken place over decades. So if our run is also about 70 years that takes us to approximately the 100th anniversary of the Fall of the Soviet Union.
We are a China colony now. Hong Kong is a test.
Speaking of…..where is “A 2”. Is there a new name or gone silent due to the politics of her region? Am hoping all is well…
We have the greatest chance to be better than George Washintons first years of this country. POTUS helped us all see. If we can just take the hill, we will have people that CAN SEE steering the future of this country.
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Stories are pointless- they are all manipulative to push an audience. – we need to use stories to push us to taking the hill, not accepting WE have LIVED ON EARTH LONG ENOUGH.
Resistance day 12?
Feels more like year 12.
Sigh
And year 12 will be hell on earth. The speed and trajectory is taking us to very dark and unimaginable times. The overwhelming majority of people even the most cynical will underestimate the end state.
Yeah, Year 12, the End due to Climate Change.
But AOC made that comment two years ago.
Maybe scepticalcooper but remember those who are in the Swamp in DC are working and some are living under the might of the National Guard.
They must live and work behind fences with barb wire on top like a prison because they are afraid?
I am not and most of us are not there, yet.
McConnell, Graham, and the others are and that must really suck.
To look out the window and see the troops, the fences and the barb wire every single day and really really hope that it all stays there for a long time so We The People do not come charging in.
Now that is living in a nightmare.
‘Taiwan independence’ means war not empty threat: Global Times editorial
Wu Qian, spokesperson of China’s Ministry of National Defense, sternly warned on Thursday that “Taiwan independence” means war. Both the island of Taiwan and the US responded to his remarks. Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said on Thursday that the Pentagon “sees no reason why tensions over Taiwan need to lead to anything like confrontation.” He reaffirmed the US’ “obligations under the Taiwan Relations Act” and the US military “remains ready in all respects to meet our security commitments in the region.”
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1214369.shtml
Biden will rescind the ACT by EO and role over. I was never as afraid of Russia (who are Christians) as I am of a Chinese taker over. Bismarck warned of the Chinese and it finally has come true.
ICYMI – FYI – WTF — Trust Science — ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ —
Side effects of China-Virus Vaccine are Men become stearilized and Women can’t get pregnant…
Around the world unexplained deaths of healthy people right after taking the vaccine…
CDC warns pregnant women not to take vaccine…
And now the vaccine doesnt work…
But everyone should take it… DOH…
Rep Lynch tests positive for coronavirus despite receiving both vaccine doses
Fauci keeps declaring his intentions that pregnant women and children will have to have the vaccine.
He really ought to be on trial for crimes against humanity, along with the other lockdown proponents.
As a pregnant woman with children, I would happily take down as many personnel as necessary to prevent my family from being injected with that poison.
Population control via vaccine – Color me surprised…..NOT.
Population. Control.
Cornerstone of great reset.
More land for Bill Gates to buy…
Land ownership is power…herd the masses into those tall buildings..Just. Like. China….
Think the dam on the Yangtze River was for power???? Destroyed acres and acres of land, exiled families that had lived along the river for centuries, buried rural hustory, eliminated local farming and its consequent food production independence….the common people didnt want the dam….
My husband was there while it was being built…for a tightrope walk across the Yangtze…at the time he was struck that most of whom attended were in Military dress…told him at the time thats is how the power structure exisrs in a communist country…,they get the perks after FORCIBLY TAKING from everyone else…
Watch out…that fencing around the Capital is just the beginning…perhaps that is why so many Generals went against Trump…they sought that unfettered power…Trump held the line against that…now he is gone and the military complex is unleashed…and perhaps that is what Trump knew and why he left as he did….
A military unleashed and led by evildoers is a deadly force to deal with…remember…he still has a young son he is raising…
Holding land that is self sustaining is paramount…fighting back to hold that land is essential…that will be what the govt will seize first using the military to enforce it. They are already using militarty tactics to enforce covid……
I truly believe that is Gates true plan…no one should sell land to him or his proxies..,
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Gates is supposedly in a state of flummoxed flabbergast that mere plebes believe he and Fauxi have evil intentions.
Kathryn, perchance was your husband also the one who did the volcano and Niagara Falls tightrope walks ?
I am mightily impressed either way.
Bravo to your husband , you and your family.
Let’s be honest, our ultimate enemy isn’t the democrats, or even China.
Spend a quick 3 minutes with Paul Harvey.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PwV9ZiEt7uCw/
Ah yes Lucifer.
The greatest LIE ever told was that he doesn’t exist.
The american people have awkened by Trump by showing rampant corruption , he demonstrated it quite well, it is why they got rid of him and from day one when he ran for office and got elected he was real threat to the corrupt get rich global system. Never will people stop protesting once they see this fraud, their election stolen then muffled etc from these socialists! There is no going back! Train is out of station and sooner or later corrupt governments will have to give up their controls as it is the peoples government for the people not other way around. I hope the democratic blue colours in states will be wiped out and once again made red for prosperity and truth!!!
I watched an audio where Lin Wood said that ALL these EO’s that JoeBama signed (supposedly blank) are illegal because he is NOT a legitimate POTUS & GOD will eventually bring justice to the traitors!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JGmHSAKfuY
They were saying that in 2009 – 2017, too ?
If that’s the level of Wood’s legal reasoning, the Georgia Supreme Court was justified in requiring him to submit to a psychiatric exam if he wants to keep his license. He did good work for Nick Sandmann in the first settlements, but even a teenager could see how off Wood’s thinking was and decide to fire Woods.
His reputation is being destroyed by outside forces. His tweets about John Roberts, and others are based on his knowledge of facts, and his understanding of defamation laws.
Woods was talking about executive orders.
And you are talking about a psychriactive exam.
With all the evidence that was flooding in, I often wonder how easy it was to get disinformation to President Trump, Lin Wood, or anyone else? The biggest problem facing our President was all the double-agents (in my opinion)… they did their best over four years to neutralize his administration.
Do we really think the Swamp couldn’t create really good looking, convincing but fake evidence (maybe provided by pretty “credible” sources – think RINO) that causes our side to make some pretty outlandish statements? I have no idea who could have been involved, who had access to whom, but manipulation is the name of the game and these jokers are true professionals.
When a prominent defamation attorney says what he said about John Roberts, you have to think he was absolutely sure about it. No comments from Roberts and no push-back that I have seen makes me think it was intentionally done to help discredit Wood.
I suspect much foul play in all this. We may never know what really happened this past year.
LLin Wood’s professional legal record is stellar. He has been successful against part of “invisible enemy.” They fear and smear him. His words are carefully chosen. He precedes us in battle. I salute him.
If you have not realized how quickly words can be turned to make someone look ridiculously insane, you haven’t been paying attention. Lin Wood is a fighter. I salute him.
Lin Wood is correct. Biden’s an imposter, usurper, and illegitimate president. Nothing he signs is lawful.
This is a judge who cares about us…unlike Biden and numerous mayors and governors who want to protect illegal criminal aliens
Congratulations on finding one… I’m starting to believe honest judges are more akin to unicorns.
The Trump come back possibility,i like it, hope he does at least some of this.https://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2021/01/31/the-trump-comeback-begins-the-plan-to-make-trump-and-america-great-again-n2583947
I listened to a Conservative talk radio show last night. The host espoused the belief that the Dems want Trump to stay in the spotlight because it divides the Republican party. And that this means the Dems would win the 2024 election. The host seemed to blame the Trump Republicans for this state of affairs.
I’m sure that was his spin, but the republican party has never been as united as it was/is under PDJT. Now the elected rinos are divided, but not the people who vote for them.
That is why they are still trying to stomp down a president who is no longer in office. They are longing for a past where republicans were not so much united, as asleep.
Yes the Dems/left do want to divide as they also demonstrated to conservatives that their vote doesn’t count. They have us weakened, confused and murmuring. We need an army of Trumps who are willing to battle for the country win, lose or draw.
Hell, the Dems are going to win it anyway. Why would they give-up their fraud-rigged voter-counting machines?
find a different Conservative talk show.
This sounds more like something Mitt Romney Republicans or Lincoln Project Republicans would say.
That commenter makes no sense. We had this ‘division’ in the Republican Party during the 2020 election and Pres Trump won. His conclusion is illogical and it sounds like he is trying to destroy the MAGA movement so as to not ‘divide’ the party for 2024 so Pence or Nikki can win.
Wait…didnt he write a book on that???!!!!?
IMO, a lot of people are going to get a brutal lesson what happens when a Nation becomes a Communist-style government. This is going to be especially a bitter pill for some to swallow. I am thinking primarily the Yuppies who could afford the luxury of being a Libtard.
These are what I refer as the suburban soccer-mom types or upper-middle class. Their main issue with a guy as Trump is he is not sophisticated enough for them. Trump is a “meat and potato” guy who happens to be a billionaire. What Libtards do not understand is the difference between competence and bullshit.
However, let the Stock Market drop as well as their real estate equity and they will feel the necessary “burn” which tends to get their “mind-right”. It is like Trump needs to wait for Libtard sophisticate anti-Trumpers to “burn” a bit to the point they start crying for Uncle Donald.
When you’ve been inhaling bulls**t your whole life, truth smells funny.
The clueless liberals will just vote for the next ‘D’ to rescue them out of their misery.
True, there is no limit to their dumb stupidity. It doesn’t matter how many degree’s, certificates and PhDs they have plastered on their walls.
We dont have to wait until that burn.. Your idea of the burn does work. but my god……. do you know how far and long that will take?
people will take 80% of their 401k dissapearing and not do anything
NSA can always send intel the planners to know how much we will take.
THEY ARE PISSED SIR give them a check, open back up for a month, etc……
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if the NSA is measuring our VITALS through signal colleciton, and that is being used to plan STATE movements – then you must manipulate your vitals, or gain ground through FAKE PEACE.
I agree with you most are frogs in a pot of water sitting on the stove. last week the Market gave up 2.5 months of gain in one week. I am guessing 6 months if not sooner.
I do think it is a little different this time. Biden signing all those EO’s has alarmed and scared a lot of people. People are paying a little closer attention this time. I talked to one gal who is calling her Planner Monday. Normally she would just wait for he annual appointment.
I live California and in my hometown I seen the gas price jump a dollar in just one day. People are more aware than ever before. They know the election was fraudulent and now we have a fraudulent President. This is even scaring dumb and stupid democrats.
It takes more BS to combat BS.
yep March for Mom – is like having a million mercenaries with picnic baskets full of sandwhiches walking down you street.
Never fear, they’ll blame DJT and the rest of us rightwing terrorists for their every misfortune until their dying breath.
Part of our job as the resistance is to remind them THEY VOTED FOR THIS..just as they use words like racist and Nazi to shame us. Well we shame them by reminding them when they complain that THEY voted for all this…this is what hate voting gets you then remind that POTUS prevented whatever they are complaining about.. High Gas prices, Marching thier kid off to war, stocks and 401ks going down. Food shortages whatever..
Remember watching a Woody Allen Movie? Some characters, if not most, were “Heady Manhattan” types. Their intellectual drivel was supposed to be comical. But I always marveled at how serious they took themselves. I am old, but anyone remember the “Black Soap” in Annie Hall? Well that was Erno Lazlo, at 50 bucks a pop at the time. Mr. Allen always screwed with his less sophisticated audience. I have family who thinks they are so much more aware. It is tiring at times.
WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Mike Pence is beginning to build a political future without Donald Trump, including making plans to form a policy-focused fundraising committee that would help him maintain a relationship with donors, according to multiple sources familiar with his plans.
good luck with that….LOL
He is a traitor. Only big donors will fund the BS.
We haven’t reached the point where we know for sure yet, but you might be right.
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He backed the corporate interests when he went to the Capitol on Jan. 6th — and thought he had no obligation to any individual that was harmed by doing so.
I didn’t realize that Pence is on drugs. He has to be if he believes MAGA folks will support him. Maybe he is fundraising to fatten his bank account.
He wants his payoff from the deep state donors and he will get it.
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Is that what the big ado about silver is today?
So that he gets his 30-pence?
Pontius Pence – ever an anti-American whore.
Benedict Pence has been exploring several options . . .
CNN: “Then what did Trump say?”
BP: “Boy, am I stupid!”
CNN: “HA-HA-HA, that’s rich. What else?”
BP: “If Mel finds out she’ll kill me.”
CNN: “Hoo-hah! She can’t stand him, right?”
BP: “For sure.”
CNN: “Hahaha! I knew it!”
BP: “So, do I get the gig?”
LOL is right!
Traitor!
He’s got no political future unless it’s as a democrat. I guess he could be a software selection for the right down the road but he would not get much love from the base. I don’t know a Conservative that would spit on fire to put him out as it stands right now.
He’s probably just getting his payout, as promised.
I don’t care if I ever see that useless chump again.
And no, I didn’t like him from the start.
Oh… OK… you do that, Mike Pence.
Silver has been the biggest manipulated asset class on the planet for 50 years. Fair market value of Silver should be at least 100 dollars an oz and it is actually priced at $26 an Oz right now. If a million investors start buying even a little starting Monday we could witness an epic short squeeze of historic proportions.
Buy physical, buy shares of SLV (an ETF) and or even buy an in the money option of SLV with an expiration date in March if you want to help ignite the rocket ship.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/reddit-preparing-unleash-worlds-biggest-short-squeeze-silver
I remember when silver was $3,50 an ounce. I bought some and sold it for 20-bucks. I did some research at the time and if every one started redeeming their silver certificates there was no way in ten-times of hell was there anywhere near the physical silver in the World to make delivery.
see the hunt bros., c. 1980!
I think you might see the exchanges shutting down if it gets too wild. There are some on this Redditt group that has a goal of crashing the entire stock market
Or it could be a deliberate manipulation by The Club to crash the entire system and usher in the Great Reset that much faster.
The Club likes the idea of ones and zeros for fiat, easier to control the peasants.
At this point I have to turn a jaundiced eye at all info thats being fed to me.
Maybe just maybe the case is the system is rigged and the takedown is needed.. here is an article on who is benefiting thru all the corruption and it’s not zuS..
Link https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stock-market-fatally-wounded-truth-will-stumble-and-crash
most respectfully disagree.
the elites’ rule #1 is NEVER use your own money (for anything.)
the redditors are making the elites use their own money now.
i’m for it.
Well there is that.
Think they made a movie about it with Danny Devito.
” Other People’s Money “.
?? ? ??
Not with my son or daughter…never
US vows to defend Philippines, including in South China Seahttps://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/South-China-Sea/US-vows-to-defend-Philippines-including-in-South-China-Sea
Never forget:
1992
Once one of the biggest US naval facilities in the world, Subic Bay was shut in 1992 after the Philippine Senate terminated a bases agreement with Washington at the end of the cold war. Manila converted the facility, which was never home to the Philippine military, into an economic zone.
One theory I have is, realizing that the “Rona” shot neither prevents the spread or actually creates immunity and does not meet any definition of a vaccine (see propaganda and gaslighting here).
“Herd” immunity will therefore continue and it is estimated it will reach threshold population levels at about same time the BOGUS POTUS and his administration will declare victory over the CCP virus. Meanwhile the obedient media will shower him with all kinds of accolades and praise to elevate him to “Supreme Ruler” status for Saving Us ALL! Hell, with that he would surely be nominated for a Nobel Peace prize! You know how they are just giving those damn things away to any their allies (even BLM has been nominated)!
Very compelling argument….
A look at history clarifies where we are at. This has been developing since the end of WWII.
Eisenhower warned us of the Military Industrial complex. Most people never took him seriously, or misunderstood what he was saying.
Take a look at our presidents since the ’50s.
JFK was becoming challenging to handle. He was assassinated.
Dem presidents since JFK have been compliant.
Nixon was NOT compliant, was set up (not hard to do since he wasn’t particularly likeable) and driven out of office. Actually, he was perceived as a threat well before being elected and several attempts were made to politically destroy him.
Ford, again, was a nice guy and didn’t make waves.
Reagan did’t seem like much of a threat when elected, but proved to be made of tougher stuff. Attempted assassination.
The Bush family was part of the deep state and were non-threatening R’s. After all, we need to placate the R’s with a win occassionally to keep them quiet.
Obama was the holy grail. Articulate, calming, nice guy, brilliant at the “shiny object” strategy so few recognized his take over of literally every department of the government: intelligence, military, judicial, foreign services, congress.
Using blackmail, bribery, threats, speculatively even murder, the silent coup was complete.
Then, Hillary lost.
Trump was not subject to bribery, blackmail, threats. He was undoing Obama’s 8 years. He was exposing the entire decades long coup.
They had to throw everything they could muster at him, and in doing so have exposed themselves.
Unfortunately, the corruption is so deep that exposing it threatens the very fabric of our republic.
Even those intent on uncovering the truth have backed away once they realized that the devastation caused by the exposure reaches to the highest levels of our government, military, intelligence services. It also, reaches into the highest levels of foreign governments, likely including UK, Italy, Australia.
The decades long collusion has been exposed to some of us, and these people are cornered. We’ve already seen they will stop at nothing. People are just collateral damage.
This is a very dangerous time globally. We can only survive by recognizing what we are up against and infiltrating their system.
Under enough exposure, their movement dies. They will not go quietly.
I always hear how exposing government corruption and making the criminals accountable will destroy the fabric of our Republic. I say BS to that. Yeah it will destroy the crooks fabric, but what is a Nation who’s fabric is nothing but criminal crooks?
It is the same with A-holes as Barr trying to save the crooked institutions. Other than a crook themselves, who in the hell are they saving the crooked institution?
It like me being a car-thief trying to save the institution of car-thieves.
Don’t forget Alex Jones. He exposed the evil dual party-global collaboration with the Bohemian Grove video in 2,000. He was demeaned and pretty much ignored.
Bewildered but resilient says: “Unfortunately, the corruption is so deep that exposing it threatens the very fabric of our republic.”
I’m in general agreement with your post – however, to my thinking, the “very fabric of our republic” isn’t doing so hot atm. That it is even more “threatened” by exposing the corruption is a hard sell for me; considering how said “fabric” is currently in tatters anyways.
I agree the cabal needs to be exposed. Problem is, the tentacles run through the top levels of CIA, FBI, State, Defense, Judicial, Justice.
We have seen clearly that No One able to expose the corruption is willing to risk their livelihood, family, or life to expose these people.
Can’t say as I blame them.
Some have been brave enough to expose a lot, but eventually even the best have been silenced.
So far, brave souls, like Sundance, have illuminated the framework. PDJT eventually declassified EVERYTHING about the Russian Hoax, yet little has been released even by those who understand and are horrified by what went on. Meadows, Ratcliffe, Grennell, others, have probably been informed to back off or suffer the very real consequences.
But the vast majority of Americans do not know any of this. It will be a long and dangerous struggle to get information through to the general public, and the truth is so unbelievable we will be labeled as conspiracy theorists by our poorly educated and indoctrinated young people.
It’s my understanding that the original text of the speech warned of the “military-congressional-industrial complex”. President Eisenhower was persuaded to change it.
He had the bastards nailed.
Now that is eye opening.
Made to remove the
” Congressional ” part.
Trump’s impeachment defense team leaves less than two weeks before trial
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/politics/butch-bowers-deborah-barbier-trump-impeachment-team/index.html
I read somewhere (sorry, I read late last night and didn’t bookmark) that President Trump wants to use the trial to expose the fraudulent election while his lawyers were focusing on the illegitimate impeachment of a president who has already left office.
Yes, that is what I read. I have to agree with the lawyers. PDJT isn’t going into a real trial with a semblance of rules.
He’s going into a farce where the “judge” is one of the prosecutors. There is no way they will allow him to bring in evidence of election fraud as a defense.
I believe that’s true. The results of the “trial” are pre-determined and will fit the desired narrative.
PDJT knows this.
He’s likely just trying to get what little he can exposed to a viewing audience who has not been exposed to any of this.
The other side is unlikely to be able to get a quorum.
From House Resolution 24: ” In the months preceding the Joint Session, President Trump repeatedly issued false statements asserting that the Presidential election results were the product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted by the American people or certified by State or Federal officials”
The House specifically charged President Trump with making false statements. That was a mistake. Even the senate must allow an accused man to defend himself against the charges brought against him. That is why they are pushing for censure now instead. The last thing they want is for the evidence to be formerly presented, witnessed by the public, and recorded for all time.
President Trump and his team’s handling of election fraud has been a s***show, to quote Patrick Byrne’s not-to-be-missed account from inside the Trump Team effort to collect and expose the truth about election fraud, coming out in installments on his blog Deep Capture. So was the “transition period” generally. Now his impeachment trial preparation presents the same apparent chaos among his lawyers handling his defense.
Is President Trump truly incapable of organizing better team efforts than this?
As to his defense, trying to prove election fraud in the Senate, as if inciting insurrection was justified, makes no sense whatever, except maybe, if he wants to martyr himself. That will lose.
His defense should be:
1) Since he’s no longer in office, any conviction would be unconstitutional, implicitly recognized by Chief Justice Robert’s’ refusal to preside. It would instead be an unconstitutional Bill of Attainder, a purely political act of vindictiveness intended to punish a political enemy without trial, destroying any effort to unify the country.
2) He did NOT incite violence. A) He encouraged those who believe strongly in Making America Great Again to fight politically for our American values, clearly protected by the First Amendment. Comparable and worse statements condoning and inciting violence on the Left spoken by many of those elected officials seeking to impeach, reveal their hypocrisy. B) His words did not incite the violence, because the attack on the Capital was launched in the middle of his speech a mile and a half away at least in substantial part by an Antifa group running a false flag operation, with video to prove it.
The election fraud evidence can be held as potential rebuttal. Any effort by the other team to make an issue out of his efforts to challenge the election – which should be first objected to as irrelevant to the charge of incitement – can be rebutted by putting into the record all the evidence compiled by Sidney Powell, Patrick Byrne and their team.
Just my humble opinion.
Must disagree. Every opportunity to explain the depth of the fraud to the American people must be taken. His best defense is offense.
Is President Trump truly incapable of organizing better team efforts than this?
As you noted, the Patrick Byrne account from November to December is a MUST READ for all of us here. Yes, Byrne has done some nutty things, but this account rings very honest because it completely explains/validates our (or at least my) many questions of “how the heck did the wheels fall off the cart so quickly after the stolen election?”
Throughout this entire nightmare we have been living the last 6 months, even the now-daily onslaught of low-blows by the Bribe’em Administration, this was the FIRST time I actually experienced a terrible, painful shoulder/neck tension that I needed Tylenol to alleviate after reading Byrne’s account.
You have laid out a very cogent argument as to why PDJT’s lawyers were correct in their plan to defend him.
MAGA, circa 2021
President Trump didn’t execute the most impressive presidential campaign that resulted in the largest winning vote margin just to have some second-rate, second-story, cadre of commie thieves steal it from him.
Take your lead from President Trump for MAGA, circa 2021 events / activities….no one speaks for President Trump…..if you don’t hear it from him ….. don’t believe it.
Just one man’s opinion.
They are stalling and buying time, stalling and buying time for what?
(To give Biden time to destroy the economy, maybe)
Maricopa County and election fraud are back in the news today. It has been said that actions speak louder than words. If this is so, then the Board of Supervisors in Maricopa County are as guilty as hell of election fraud.
If the Board of Supervisors in Maricopa County wanted to get to the truth about the 2020 election results in the county they would be transparent! They wouldn’t sue the Arizona Senate for requesting an audit, or agree to an audit but only from their preferred auditors (who they claimed were certified but weren’t) or go to the media to say it is illegal to basically audit the ballots in the county, when it is not. Maricopa County’s Board of Supervisors and Big Media don’t want Americans to know the truth about the 2020 election – they show it every day.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/maricopa-county-preventing-valid-audit-2020-election-results-now-media-claims-state-law-prevents-county-handing-ballots/
Yep. Many of us have been contacting the MBofS regularly, reminding them that if they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding it!
Most are McCain R’s.
Explains everything.
I would imagine the DNC is making it worth their efforts to stall any legit audit.
No need to. The RINOs are perfectly willing to carry water for the Ds.
Luciferians stick together.
Unity……but first we help the Communist Junta hunt you down….
https://www.facesoftheriot.com
This is Huffington Post click bait on AOL. I did not read the rest of the article – Just posting to show these elitist politicians. . .STILL NO NOT GET IT ! !
Keep it up Patriots. WE will slowly take back the power.
Trump loyalists in S. Dakota turn on home state senator
South Dakota’s preeminent politician, Republican Sen. John Thune, is facing backlash at home for defying Donald Trump.
Condemned riot at the Capitol
FINALLY
Reddit Rebellion Alliance…..Give the Oligarchs HELL!
(need more popcorn)
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/reddit-preparing-unleash-worlds-biggest-short-squeeze-silver
Do a quick check..
Mayor silver bullion suppliers have shut down all new orders and delivery dates have been extended..
Note we are talking about real silver bullion.. stuff you can sink your teeth in.
Not the fake silver paper stuff.. remember the fake property appraisals that brought down the banks in 2008 2009..
Time will tell
MAGA
Kitco metals shut down their online store early this morning. Other online metal sites are showing no availability for anything Silver. The only silver found was on ebay for $35 + per once. I was able to buy late last night at $29.00 an once in 100 once mint boxes. Today they are saying delivery may take up to 30 days.
Thanks for the link, SMV. Fascinating stuff. Frightening, too. Tomorrow’s open should be epic. (Ufp? down? one right after the other? Dawn here on the West Coast will tell). The big financial manipulators, especially the short-sellers, appear to be in for an escalating GameStop-style short squeeze series of attacks. The major banks that work with and profit from them may face liquidity crises, especially if they’ve been cheating for extra lucre. The billions they face to lose can easily grow to the trillions. What I can’t figure out is whether this is
1) day-traders turned suddenly smarter-than-smart money, guided by financial whizzes at ZeroHedge, WallStreetbets, etc.,
2) a broader attack by the Rebel Alliance against the pocket book of the Deep State, or
3) a prelude to a declaration of a financial state of emergency by the Deep State and their Globalist and Marxist allies, to justify seizing all private property globally, and replacement with the Great Reset.
I hope it’s 2 and not 3, but I honestly don’t know. Maybe both. Meanwhile, I’m considering whether to follow the linked advice, with a little discretionary gambling money that I can afford to lose. If the Deep State banks and hedge funds are going to lose billions, squeezed out of them by individual traders, what’s not to like about catching of few of those dollars.
When the game is rigged in your favor all the time you get lazy and make mistakes. The Reddit group figured it out and used the hedge funds complancy against them. I m guessing there is more to come. Find stocks heavily shorted with good fundamentals and have at it
The WaPo does not want President Trump to have a library. What are they so afraid of, I wonder? History will be told whether they like it or not.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2021/01/29/washington-post-op-ed-trump-must-never-have-a-presidential-library/
Will not be surprise Wapo runs by swamp operatives.
Doesn;t matter what they think. POTUS can establish one privately. Richard Nixon did that after he left he established a library privately it wasn;t till he died that it came under the Government/National Archives.
SO POTUS can just establish it at one of his properties if he wanted to. he doesn;t need to build a separate one..When they showed his things being packed and loaded on the moving trucks. There were plastic bins marked gifts for Presidential Library so he likley is already thinking of one.
Found in the bin…. 🙁
his library full of declassified coup documents.
They are afraid of the truth being readily available.
The Gamestop news is chaff, diversionary tactics. Why do you think the main street media covers it so intensely. They decide the narratives. And what not to talk about.
Both parties want ‘hearings’ on gamestop, robinhood but not on a stolen election or election integrity. They have the kittens chasing sting.
We got the whole swamp running a psyops on us and they already running a scenario where this go.
No sorry it is not chaff at all billions of dollars have been lost by hedge fund thru greed and corruption..
Here is an article that explains lots of thing how the little people get taken..
On Chuck Todd this morning said..IIRC.. the GameStop item and the stopping of RobinHood stoping the sale of stock was not important..
Right
Link https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stock-market-fatally-wounded-truth-will-stumble-and-crash
MAGA
Hans — I agree with you — in part.
In public, the hedge fund managers are crying “foul”. And, on the surface, it appears that they are crying “foul” because they have lost Billions of dollars, in the blink of an eye.
Only, they are actually crying “foul” because they have been exposed.
And, because their cute little game is not going to work going forward.
Sunlight. Just absolutely love that Sunlight!
While I agree with some of what this article says, I disagree with the panic selling this article appears to recommend. I agree that the Fed and government regulation of the markets is corrupt and fraudulent, manipulated by BigFin to steal from the little guy. I agree we are in for some epic instability in the stock market and the entire global financial system. But I don’t know if share prices are about to collapse or melt up. If inflation is unleashed, all those Blue Chip mainstay companies that sell what the world needs will see their financial operations inflate with everything else. The company that produces value for the world will be priced in relation to the value it produces.
Pretty good cover for the EO’s that violate all privacy rights and common humanity.
Hope our red state AG’s are busy preparing legal challenges!
Texas has fired the first shot and got a temporary win.
No. Not in this case. Gamestop hurt our enemies dearly.
I just want say that in my opinion the lawyers abandoning President Trump has opened the door for young, tough, and Constitution savvy, lawyers to take their place. Those that are willing to use every bit of testimonial evidence available.
I suspect we will see names that are unfamiliar to MSM and political circles. Hungry young Lawyers with the help of people like Cruz and Levin and Hawley. They know where the talent in the younger generation is.
Hopefully they will have no attachment to the current political class whatsoever. Just like President Trump.
I will be praying for such lawyers to be chosen with a discerning eye by President Trump.
Hello, I’m a retired Philadelphia lawyer with 40+ years’ litigation experience, specializing in appeals. Here’s what the legal issues really are in the impeachment:
Can a president be impeached after he leaves office?
If so, did Trump’s words on 1/6/21 actually cause the rioters to storm the capitol?
That’s it. Election fraud is not at issue. This is not being tried in the “court of public opinion;” it’s being tried in the Senate. Please bear me out, and I’ll explain.
First, any litigator will tell you that you pitch to the jury you have (or in the case of an appeal, to the appellate panel you have), not the court of public opinion. That’s it. This is a trial in front of 100 jurors (or a 100 member en banc panel) here. Trump already has a 45-vote base on the first issue (constitutionality), and he could go higher. There are senators who didn’t want to dismiss the whole case on a barebones motion to dismiss, but still might vote with Trump on Issue #1 after hearing the legal arguments.
Second, there are going to be time limits. Trial judges limit trial days, and appellate briefs have word-count limits (and time limits on oral argument). So a good lawyer has to jettison some arguments or evidence that he’d like to get in simply because there is no space or time. This is also why election fraud really cannot be a central argument – there’s no time for it.
Third, as to the causation issue – here is where the Trump lawyer might put in the FBI evidence as to the pre-planning by rioters. (Pipe bombs, Facebook pages, text messages). Trump’s words on the afternoon couldn’t have incited the riot if the rioters planned to do it the day before. OK, maybe only some of the rioters did plan, but if those rioters were leading the charge, and a few people out of a large crowd followed, it was the riot planners who caused the riot. Thus, regardless of what Trump said (and his words certainly do not incite a riot), they would have done it anyway. This is a good argument, but not as strong and should be second to the legal one.
There may be some time to explain why people were in DC at the rally, but this should be carefully done, and perhaps compared to the marches after Trump’s win. If hundreds of people decided to march in DC with knitted genitalia on their head in 2016 to protest Trump’s election, well that was free speech and freedom of assembly. The vast majority of the crowd at the capitol on 1/6 was peaceful, too
Because of the Dominion lawsuits, Trump should stay away from anything Rudy or Powell said about election fraud. Their evidence, such as it is, is radioactive right now because of the libel suits, and won’t help Trump win on the two issues above. Peter Navarro’s statistics won’t help, either (How many jurors in any case would pay attention for more than a minute to a statistical analysis in a trial? Keeping jurors from falling asleep is actually a problem for lawyers and judges. )
More importantly, bringing in election fraud could be twisted by the Democrats to say that Trump is arguing fraud justifies storming the capitol, trampling a woman to death, endangering the lives of others, and looting government property. You know they would do that, and the MSM would push this claim. Bringing in election fraud might also lose some of the votes above 45 that Trump should try to bring in.
According to news reports, the House is assembling a video montage of clips of Trump’s speech, the protest, the rioters, and the events inside the capitol for an appeal to emotions. The House may even try to show Trump knew ahead of time of the planning riot inside the capitol and tacitly approved it. Of course, Trump can move to keep this montage out, as highly selective video clips pasted together can present a very inaccurate and misleading version of events, but Judge-and-Juror Leahy will likely let it in. Thus, Trump responding by bringing in election fraud would only support the House’s twisted claim that if people in the US think an election was stolen, then they can act like the rioters in the videos.
The Trump defense in the first impeachment trial was a master class in an expert, focused, experienced defense based on the real issues. The House managers were all over the place, with stuff like Deming’s “dockamentary ebbidence” and Schiff’s melodramatic presentations. (How sad we’ll never know what a spellbinding summary the failed screenwriter Schiff might have given if Nadler hadn’t shuffled up to the podium (“Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!” still makes me laugh).
The focus here is to get as many votes to acquit Trump in the Senate as possible and move on. That’s it, and the outcome will affect the 2022 and 2024 elections, including whether or not Trump runs.
Excellent analysis.
Thank you Wethal for your wise and thoughtful response. I understand now why the other team did not want to pursue any voter fraud claims.
Hopefully, the President has someone close to him that has influence to help him to understand, fully, what is at stake by introducing voter fraud evidence.
In your considered opinion, once the impeachment trial is over, what is the best avenue to take in pursuit of remedy for the clear indication of voter fraud to be addressed?
Watching out for H.R. 1, the Dems’ national voting law. Mail-in voting for anyone who wants it. Same day registration. No ID required at polls. No signature verification. Automatic registration when someone gets a drivers license.
Changing state voter laws wherever one can. Scale back mail-in voting and early votes weeks and weeks ahead. Dems like early voting because they lock in their votes and protect themselves against October surprises. Offer to be a poll watcher or vote counter. This is also why the governor’s races this year are important. (Yes, there are some).
Also the re-apportionment of congressional seats (shift from blue to red states likely), as well as re-apportionment of state legislatures. If there are hearings on re-apportionment, conservatives should attend and offer to volunteers if there are any citizens’ commissions.
Watch our for school board elections, and ask candidates about “anti-racism,” “diversity inclusion and equity” and the “1619 project” in schools.
Come 2022, the 2020 “emergency” orders on mail-in voting, extended voting waiving signature verification should be challenged ahead of time by candidates, if those orders are still in effect. In congressional races, the candidates should go to federal court if necessary.
When the Dem-controlled PA Supreme Court changed congressional district lines in early 2018 because those lines allegedly violated the state constitution, the legislature challenged in federal court. SCOTUS refused to hear it. ACB is there now, and the US Constitution gives the power to set election requirements to state legislatures.
“…ACB is there now, and the Constitution gives the power to set election requirements to state legislatures.”
But will that matter to Communist DEMS? Do they care what the Constitution says?
Worse, will the mostly traitorous Roberts’ Supreme Court even deign to hear such a case? As you remind us, the Supreme Court refused to hear the Pennsylvania case.
Because RBG was on the court, and not ACB. I don’t recall the exact timing of the appeal, but Kavanaugh may not have been on the court, either. The Dem’s contested these two nominations so vigorously because they knew these two votes could change the Roberts court into an Alito/Thomas court.
Good try for the dems but election laws belong to the state not the federal government
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What if the ‘corporal proof’ of fraud being ‘present’ at the Capitol on Jan. 6th was the impetus for allowing a riot to commence?
If not physically present, can an ‘incorporated’ being actually incite any physical confrontation?
And if the physical being actually said things, oh, such as ‘Trump supporters don’t riot’, ‘how is occupying the Capitol by the people illegal when even Nancy Pelosi refers to it as the people’s house’, or, ‘should an occupation commence and those people who claim sovereignty over the people’s house start getting starved or frozen and put a call out for help, we have to answer that call’, has that physical being actually incited anything?
Our government, including the legal system, have you listed as an incorporated being on your government documents (your name is written in ALL-CAPS).
How many of you ACTUALLY SIGN your name in that manner?
YOU are a sovereign being, not an owned entity by the government!
That these two concepts get played as one IS THE ISSUE!
A live person not present vs. ‘corporate paperwork’ used by the government to claim ‘presence’ for incitement purposes are two separate ‘things’ even though they may both be referring to a single individual.
From the article of impeachment:
“In the months preceding the Joint Session, President Trump repeatedly issued false statements asserting that the Presidential election results were the product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted by the American people or certified by State or Federal officials.”
So he shouldn’t waste time defending himself from the charges that he’s a liar and that contributed to the violence?
Incitement usually includes an element of immediacy. If someone says something provocative, and two weeks later another person acts on it, can one really prove that the provocative statement caused the subsequent action.
I do see your point, and I hope the Trump lawyers are careful to define “incitement’ to show there has to be an immediate, violent response to the words, not a delayed reaction.
As I said above, the time limits force lawyers to pick the strongest arguments that will convince this jury. And right now the constitutionality argument has won enough votes to stop a conviction. Trump needs to keep these votes, and add to them. The causation argument is secondary.
See my addendum to my comment. The article says he “reiterated false claims” [about the election] during his speech.
Making claims about the elections that the House says are false is not the same as inciting people to invade the capitol building, injure people and damage or steal property. Incitement triggers people to go do something they would not do but for the statement.
Trump said the election was stolen. Hillary repeated false claims about the 2016 for years. The House is trying to redefine “incitement” and “Insurrection.” to get these legal terms to fit their version of the facts.
Given the limited amount of time, and the possible complexity of the constitutional arguments, the lawyers have to make decisions on how best to spend the time to win this case with this jury.
Everyone with an ounce of intelligence knows the election was stolen. It is extremely insulting when others try to convince us that Biden won. What biden won was a successful steal.
Yes, and so did Kennedy in 1960, and Carter in 1976. I lived in the Philadelphia area for 40 years. Election fraud is nothing new. And as Hugh Hewitt once advised, “If it’s not close, they can’t steal it.’ Getting above the margin of steal, and trying to reform election laws when we can is about all we can do right now.
“Election fraud is nothing new”.
Yes but the steal here is massive. Is this something new?
For the record, the next 2 sentences of the impeachment article:
“Shortly before the Joint Session commenced, President Trump addressed a crowd at the Ellipse in Washington, DC. There, he reiterated false claims that ‘‘we won this election, and we won it by a landslide’’.“
Yes, but those statements do not immediately incite a group of people to go and invade the capitol building.
And in addition to the constitutional arguments, Trump’s lawyers should put on the evidence they have about the rioters planning ahead of time through messages, planting pipe bombs to be used on 1/6, etc. Trump’s statements before 1/6 are too remoted in time to be incitement. His statements on 1/6 could not urge an invasion of the capitol, in part, because the invasion was already planned.
Thank you for that. How then should the defense respond to what we know will be a repeated refrain from the Dems about “no evidence whatsoever of fraud in the election?” We can be certain that every one of the House managers will include the phrase “no evidence of election fraud, interference, etc.” in every one of their speeches. Do you just ignore it?
The Trump lawyers could briefly discuss it, and point to the vote audits that may be taking place in Arizona, and requests by the legislature in Georgia, IIRC, to review the ballots (which was denied).
One thing a lawyer (and client) have to watch out for is the allegations of the other side getting under the skin, and causing them to make emotional decisions. The pain, and anger that Trump must have felt after realizing that Biden was probably going to get away with a steal must have been overwhelming. But the focus here must be on what wins.
Look, we know the Dems are going to smear Trump every way they can. They did it with Russia, Stormy Daniels, etc. That’s their playbook, and the MSM plays along. There is not much one can do except to fight back shrewdly.
Thank you for your insights. My legal training is that I used to watch Court TV, and I once won a small claims case, but the defendant refused to pay and left town.
Nevertheless, this is not a normal jury, nor anything like it. They all know that this is nothing more than political harassment, and that President Trump did absolutely nothing wrong. Many have already decided their vote, many are awaiting instructions. No matter how the case is presented, it will not affect the outcome, which will be decided before the trial commences.
Overall I agree with you. There might be a few votes above 45 to get. Collins might be one. She voted for Kavanaugh in the end because she didn’t think the Dems carried their burden of proof, and she said she reviewed the evidence carefully. Mitt will do his holier-than-thou act and vote against Trump, as Sasse likely will. Who knows what Toomey will do (he’s retiring). Murkowski? The same uncertainty.
Two Dem gets might be Sinema and Manchin, if only because they were stabbed in the back by Harris this past week (she went to their local media to push for the COVID stimulus without letting them know ahead of time. They’ve already bucked Schumer on the filibuster (although whether they’ll stick to it is open).
But 45 votes mean the House cannot get the 2/3 vote of the Senate to convict. This is designed to damage Trump, and to smear anyone associated with the peaceful rally or even who was a Trump supporter. “If you support Trump, you support insurrection>”
And to make a MAGA resistance an “insurrection,” not a lawful resistance through free speech, free assembly, and the ballots box.
Wethal, I am enjoying your posts. Your wisdom is self evident, and I appreciate you posting.
I usually look for your posts, and when I find them, they are always worth not just reading, but pondering. Thanks for posting.
Proving the fraud will have a far greater affect on the 2022 and 2024 elections. The Dem’s included statements in the charges to the affect that Trump lied about fraud, misinformed the American public, and thus caused the riot. How he can he not respond to the fallacious charge?
He can briefly, but his lawyers have a time limit for the whole presentation. His statements up to the rally cannot be incitement (at least as far as it’s been defined) because they’re too remote in time. A tweet? Really? Tweets are incitement?? Days and weeks ahead of time?
The House is trying to re-define incitement to eliminate the element of immediacy. Nothing Trump said directed them to storm the capitol. Trump’s lawyers need to respond by saying Trump was exercising his free speech rights days and weeks ahead of time by expressing doubt on the election – perhaps even by comparing him to Hillary, who kept claiming, “Russia, Russia, Russia” and the Mueller investigation proved her false statements.
Thanks for the excellent legal analysis. I had thought the same from a 1,000 foot layman’s approach.
Spoken like a true and logical lawyer but if you knew the final decision had already been made. Then what would you do. If you were sure, no matter what you did, you were going to lose, what would you do. Perhaps this comes down to the definition of a Hero!
Be remembered by the people he loves as a hero, and not hiding behind his lawyers.
“To the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee.” ― Herman Melville.
Absolutely! Did you know there is a new book out on just this? Last Stands: Why Men Fight When All Is Lost by Michael Walsh.
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/last-stands-michael-walsh/1136407148
(I refuse to link to Amazon)
Your post is insightful and logical.
However, it is not based on the new world we live in.
This is a Stalinist show trial. Period. Your 40 years of experience in the courts may no longer apply in post-November 3rd, 2020 America.
In other words, this is NOT a trial. The votes have already been determined. This is made-for-TV event. I’d be half tempted, if I were the President, not to provide ANY kind of defense at all. Don’t dignify this show trial.
But this may be the ONLY time that the fraud gets a national audience. This is what Steve Bannon has been arguing. I doubt the Democrats will even allow fraud to be discussed. Like the Stalinists, they simply will no longer allow a credible defense to be mounted.
Eric is smartly saying – if you refer to the constitution then you are losing! cause your enemy has whiped its ______ with it a LONG time ago.
The constitutional argument already has 45 votes, which is enough to win an acquittal.
Yes, it’s a show trial, to smear Trump and anyone who supports him. Also to smear anyone who now opposes Biden policies as an insurrectionist. In part, it’s about re-defining “insurrection.”
Unlike a Stalinist show trial, in which a conviction was assured, this trial appear to have an assured acquittal. Trump said he was going to wear the impeachments as badges of honor. Ever since the Clinton impeachment, it doesn’t have quite the stain or stigma it once have.
Instead of tearing up the articles like Pelosi did with SOTU, I think he should have them made into a set of papier mache bookends. “Thanks for the nice set of bookends, Nancy.” And maybe put them in the Oval Office on January 20, 2025.
can president TRump not show up? and instead hold marches all across the country?
He wasn’t going to show up. He could tell his lawyers not to show up, but that could lose him some of the 45 votes, as those senators could see it as a sign of disrespect. Marches won’t affect the Senate vote, and they won’t get Biden out of the White House.
After the first day of the battle of Shiloh, with terrible losses, Sherman approached Grant, and said, “Well, Grant, we’ve had the devil’s own day, haven’t we?” A determined Grant, his mind already made up, responded, “Yes, lick ’em to-morrow, though.”
It’s almost certain that they will control what is admitted and how much time the defense is given. Then your position would be, not to provide ANY kind of defense at all?
Maybe this could work. Continually force them to shut me off. Presenting election fraud, after election fraud by example. Until any footage they had becomes unusable? While you record the actual presentation and their irruptions for later playback.
What could they do, as a result? Stop the show trial, dismiss the Presidents lawyers, call it a miss trial or just give up.
Thank you for sharing your valuable expertise with us, Wethal! Much appreciated!
Oh, and thanks for the big laugh on this one, Wethal, I love your sense of humor!!! Still makes me laugh, too!
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“(How sad we’ll never know what a spellbinding summary the failed screenwriter Schiff might have given if Nadler hadn’t shuffled up to the podium (“Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!” still makes me laugh).”
I agree with your assessment. As much as I would like and the true election fraud needs to be public, I don’t think this is the venue.
These Democrats are playing for keeps. This has nothing to do with impeachment at all. This has to do with framing the Jan.6th. fiasco as PT being the insurrectionist in chief.
The rally, planned in advance. PT and all the speakers from the rally, their words twisted showing they were inflaming ordinary citizens enough that they traveled hundreds /thousands of miles to be there.
Yes, we all know that the crowd was infiltrated by Antifa, BLM, militia groups but they were there because PDJT ask them to come.
I don’t think the Democrats could give a crap less about the impeachment. They know it’s unconstitutional. This is a show for them. This is to be able to edit together video from the event. Video from the media, video from the “fake media ” that attended and helped incite and video seized, taken from ordinary Trump supporters who attended. Whether it’s video taken that day during the protest or taken from social media as people prepared to go and shared their excitement with their friends and family.
I hate to say it, but I see this impeachment as the opening volley before major insurrection and treason charges.
Lord knows, I hope and pray I am wrong, but I think this is just the beginning.
Treason is very hard to prove, but I think you have a point on the insurrection. The Dems may be trying to re-define it so that any peaceful, lawful resistance or even objections to Biden policies are now “insurrection.”
Dissent used to be the highest form of patriotism. Now it could be: “Put that mask back on, you insurrectionist!”
Wethal, thank you very much for your detailed, well thought out explanation of what is and will go on in the impeachment trial.
There is no substitute for experience, and your experience and well worded post has been helpful to me and I suspect many others.
Really, really good and insightful post, thank you!
With all your experience, do you believe that Pa. will, in the end, get away with helping steal the election by voter fraud and/or dominion?
IIRC, the appeal to SCOTUS from PA is still pending, and that might not change the 2020 election, but the PA Supreme Court and the Soros SoS’s change of voting laws could get shot down because the US Constitution give the authority to set election procedures to the legislatures.
This could have ramifications for 2022 (2021 in off-year elections), and beyond. No power grabs by the judiciary or executive branches who decide to declare an ’emergency.”
Good analysis, Wethal. Not the forum to litigate fraud. Only outcome is whether or not he’s convicted. Such a conviction would likely bar him from holding future office. Flailing around trying to prove fraud in that forum where it is irrelevant will enrage his opponents, both Dem and RINO, and make his conviction much more likely. It has very little chance of success as we are. He will shoot himself in the foot. And see my earlier post on this same topic, upthread.
Wethal, Bravo
Good job , thanks. My point is do you think that the guy that changed the face of NYC, started a game show, beat bankruptcy 8 times. Dropped into the ‘Republican primary beat 16 competitors then went on to win over the “most qualified criminal I mean democrap” for the presidency, was spied on by the previous admin, beat a special council and at the same time lowered taxes , eased regulation and built an economy that was a steamroller than began to remove our soldiers from harms way moved the embassy in Israel did not start a new way in 4 years fought and beat an impeachment brought peace to the middle east among other achievements said on the day before the election ” i hope those pesky dems don t steal the election” and then on the day after the election slapped his forehead and said ” sumbicth the dems stole the election” oh well I guess I lost. Do you think that guy is as big a clusterfark As he is being painted. I don’t know what the plan is but I m sure there is a plan. In it s time
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It looks like Putin and Biden have something in common, they both like to arrest opposition party protestors.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/GOV-NORTHAM-POL-RUSSIA/2021/01/31/id/1007969/
How DJT Lost the White House, Chapter 2: Was there Foreign Interference in this Election? You Make the Call.
https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/01/how-djt-lost-the-white-house-chapter-2-was-there-foreign-interference-in-this-election-you-make-the-call/
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/01/27/317292-n317292
Congress has been exposed. Some Judges and Generals as well. Started on Wall street last week and traditional banking has been intermingled in this whole mess.
What is next? We find out we only have a life estate in our Real estate?
i think a key point is – we know President Trump is going to come out soon…
I wonder what he has planned. and like you pointed out – our system is gone. it was usurped by the Weather Underground Silver Ponies.
It was usurped by the British Monarch and they think they own us and our 400 million guns
this one is in helping with your pointed out issue – Oldschool (hope it helps people afraid to do it)….
Suggested Rule 1: Don’t put the mask on until someone tells you to..
Reaction to Suggested 1: Hold you mask out, and say Put it on me. Pause. Then smile. Put it on. and say ” you know this is bullshit”
Suggested Rule 2: Always remove your mask after paying for groceries. Immediately. Pause and get your bags bag in the cart at checkout. look around – and say “you know this mask is bullshit right?”
Reason for 2: They wont waste time yelling at you to put a mask on – because they have no leverage ( you already have the groceries paid for… it would be THEFT to take them from you)
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AGITATE AGITATE – and MOCK the System.
You know that clear face shields are an alternative..
Pick up and wear three sat the same time.. I’m sure that will get people talking..
The new strain is already being hyped. They need a new panic to force the vaccine..
Also heard on MSM this morning about going back to work after getting the vaccine.. get ready for the vaccine pasport..
MAGA
what if u made a necklace that has a popsickle stick with a notecard on it – that covers your mouth?
This honestly comes down to the POS PENCE – he destroyed President Trump with this bullshit
My husband now works for a mid-sized electronics company and is the CTO and basically HE (his knowledge and expertise in his field) is the ONLY way they will survive as a company – so he has some “leverage.” whew ?
They wanted to implement a mandatory vaccine order for all employees. My husband told them if they did, that he would be GONE. He will NOT take a vaccine. They backed down. Wish many others with their companies would step up in this same way.
A firefighter friend told me their Worker’s Comp Insurance company is now mandating Covid Vaccinations if you ever want to file a Worker’s Comp claim in the future. Horrifying. The Firefighters make regular use of their Worker’s Comp insurance for many, many claims and now are stuck.
i beleive the Intel Assessments have determined – forced vaccinations will not work in the USA. that appears to be the one issue people will die for (and lose all thoughts of the future).
this is why I pray President Trump funnels us to new industries – where if we get fired we can get a job there. new grocery stores, media empires, machinery, farming. whatever.
….but that may take a long while, WB….
i dont think so.
100% purchase of OAN – and then create cable and internet provider.
RSBN becomes additional Field Investigators…
Promote local politics. – air it on national scale to provide confidence that you can do it also.
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Grocery stores – same process – many are waiting for buy outs… – Supply chains via trucking and local farmers – Steal the HIppy farm crap and make it Freedom Gardens (local gofundme like operations to suppply a food supply with in 50 miles of each area nationally)…
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national guard meet ups locally – to inspire wholesome military men near home – bond them with local community.
use the FEMA playbook to organize – create Emergency positions and practice events — these trucks show up to supply this loading area – that loading area dispenses to local neighborhooods. practice emergency radio commms to avoid TV being the only informer…
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He might want to double check on this. The Vax is only ‘authorized’, not ‘approved’ by the FDA. As such, it is officially categorized as ‘experimental’ and cannot be forced. Even the US military is not requiring it as they do not take experimental vaxes.
Someone needs to speak to a manager at the insurance company, not the average Joe at the call-in center. Hospitals can’t even force employees to take it.
“What? Where’s my mask? Oh, how I wish I could WEAR a mask! But it takes two lungs to breathe through a mask. Thanks for your compassion and understanding, doctor, uh, what was your name doctor? You are a doctor, aren’t you?”
Here is another good read on Wall St hedge funds and what has happened..
The short prossses that the big boys love needs victims..
the corona virus has been used by the big boys to target mom and pop… companies like GameStop.. IE malls closed… no sales.. ready for the picking..
You see almost all the wealth created over the last several years has not gone to the people.. it has gone to the elite..
I believe that the shell game that allows this should be fixed.. that now becomes the million dollar question.. the head of the SEC is peter Strozk’s wife..
Here is a good read on what needs to be fixed to Make America Great Again
Link https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stock-market-fatally-wounded-truth-will-stumble-and-crash
It was a stupid plan… (they’re just too ignorant to realize it.)
“Leaked Open Society Foundation Document; The Last Election”
https://ellacruz.org/2018/10/31/leaked-the-last-election/
Regarding the Great Game Stop Short Squeeze. There wouldn’t be any crisis or issue if the greedy pig-headed hedge fund managers had used basic prudent trading practice and put a reasonable STOP LOSS on their investment.
Firms that engage in nothing but short selling are basically Pirates. Not the fun kind like Johnny Depp, but like the cut-throat Somali kind. They care not a whit if they destroy a business that provides a livelihood to thousands and represents the savings of so many common workers.
The hedge funds are arrogantly demanding to be bailed out by the same people they are trying to rob. Like Goldman Sacks multi-billion dollar bailout from the defaulted Mexican bonds during the Clinton era funded by the tax-payers..
Just a quick reminder to everyone out there..
Last year the national debt increased by almost 8 trillion dollars thru Covid payments .. an increase of about 30%..
Think about 30% of the business closed down no production nothing to offset the money being printed,,
We are printing our way into hyper inflation and Venezuela…
Closing down the keystone pipeline is a crime.. loss of jobs.. more overhead.. stopping drilling mining what are they thinking..
The politicians are not your friends.. oh and those green new deal companies will generate losers for the short sellers to pick off.
MAGA
Ok, I’m gonna do it- open up dialogue for consideration and drop this hand grenadine …
Sundance’s post on the entirety of DC being corrupt being the starting point- all of it? Everyone?
Next, we know the term ‘cognitive dissonance’, the things that make you go hmm? Like why would Trump meet smiling with McCarthy after having been stabbed in the back by him? And talking about taking back the house in 2022 and think tanks after the massive voter fraud and not addressing it anymore? Because impeachment?
And Trump “caught them all” and had all the power to declassify and walked away. We knew of all the criminal activity- it was out in the open (insert Bogeyfree’s list here) so certainly Trump knew all this too? Yet couldn’t/wouldn’t do anything about it?
Here’s the ‘hand grenade’ part that is floating around out there which I thought worthy of consideration, if nothing else than to discount it but it is out there;
From a comment at Nowtheendbegins website in discussion about government salaries;
“It goes to show who the greedy ones are when one refuses his paycheck, and the others keep insisting on raises for themselves. However I will bet Trump was paid significantly for his role in Identifying all who will oppose the USA’s take over and the NWO, the votes were for them to compile a list.
He got paid so much he considered his retirement salary mere change and an insult.
Anything Trump has to say for those who voted for him, I would not believe even if his tongue came notarized.
He is part of the 2 headed snake, 2 heads, 2 forked lying tongues (R’s&D’s ) and of the same body.”
Thoughts?
Really?
No thought required.
Would of been possible if they didnt threaten his Son with the Russia frame job at Trump Tower.
President Trump has no choice by to fight – he cant trust them.
Absolutely ass nine.. President Trump could give two craps about money. For him it’s about legacy.
His family is set for the next 20 generations…… Money is nothing to him.
Not trying to be snide towards you Ri. Just speaking my thoughts.
THIS DESERVES SIGNIFICANT REVIEW: Patrick Byrne – How DJT Lost The White House
Believe him or not, but Byrne is a genius who spotted these problems well before the election, organized a team of experts to dive into the issues, and was directly involved. He has published two chapters so far (link to Chapter 1 below). This is infuriating, sad, maddening and revealing. Like so many situations during his Presidency, Donald Trump depended upon people to run things that were incompetent, or self serving, or compromised against him. Shocking details in chapter one, and massive evidence of foreign interference in chapter 2. Amazingly, there was a master plan that we all were speculating on, just awaiting our President’s signature, but it never came….
https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/01/november-3-december-23-all-the-presidents-teams/
You lay it out very well, Icthematrix. This is a must-read for all. I had to take 3 Tylenols afterwards.
More still to come.
Even if only a fraction is true, it’s shocking and depressing.
PDJT was badly served, and put his trust in the wrong people.