Many people are now becoming aware of a shift in the political effort to shut down speech. The Conservative Treehouse has been notified our “content” is not permissible, and after ten years we are kicked-out of WordPress/Automatic hosting services. Some people asked if we would inquire about the specific ‘terms of service‘ that we violated, so I did.
Here is the direct response from WordPress/Automattic (rec’d 6:48pm ET this evening):
No specific violation is noted. Below is the “Prohibited Content under section 5”
(source)
I have no idea how “violation against prohibition on calls to violence” pertains to our content. You can read CTH for yourself and see if you can identify anywhere where we have promoted a “call to violence”, it doesn’t exist.
For the sake of fairness, that’s their entire reasoning as provided. That’s their reasoning; you can make up your own mind if it makes sense.
We are working on relocation now. However, many people are rightly alarmed by this move by WordPress/Automattic because over the course of ten years there has never been any previous contact about any violation of any terms. Nor is any specific violation noted in the reply.
Tomorrow we will find a new host.
Be of good cheer and live your best life.
Sundance
To put it frankly… SCREW `EM!
We don’t need them, and they can’t stop you OR us!
Let them slowly bleed out to their demise…
Really, who cares, and who wants to be associated with such as these?
golfmann, my thoughts exactly and I hope that the new host will have nothing to do with wordpress. I also hope that all patriots will completely drop wordpress.
Here is my contact information. The wealth of information from Sundance and others is awesome!
I think there is another reason for WordPress dropping you now. It is to tie you up at a very critical time. It is working.
What they are doing is including our comments as being from “your site” so any reference to calling for action on our part, they consider threats. Other sites have foregone comment sections to avoid this trap, The Federalist.com, for example. Find a new site. The Parlar site is supported by a friendly conservative family, and maybe they can provide some guidance. Good luck and God Bless you and your work.
Clouthub appears to be a good one. Praying Medic has moved his base over there.
Flyboy, this was my thought also and explains why new member trolls have set up shop here ,.. to give the censors the reason to shut us down.
So with WP’s terms then the BLM website, AntiFascistNetwork (Antifa organization) and I am sure hundreds of other left wing and extremist websites will have to find another host too. Those are just 2 sites that I researched and inspected. Maybe WP will give you a timeline on when those sites will need to be migrated due to Prohibited Content under Section 5?? Hmm, I think I will contact WP myself and see when that will happen. Don’t give up as we need you and your site!! Again, please look into Klicked Media. Conservative hosting site, great reviews!!
We need a list of all the site word press hosts and boycott them
if all sites left wordpress, it might hurt them
it’s the same with thetwetter, farcebook, youyoutube, and amazonian
they hate at us and we support them
why
these should be easy wins for us
keep the faith
defend the republic
I think it’s hilarious that people on twitter can call for an outright assassination of our President, and they’re untouched. Well, I guess that if you can believe in 54 genders, you can believe that we’ve had “calls to violence”. And, yes, the timing is ludicrously obvious.
Update, RFI sent to WP in regards to deplatforming far left extremist websites. Posted to their community forum. I will update again if (not holding my breath) I receive a reply. Most likely will lose my account. Please, please, please look into Klicked Media. I cannot speak for the hundreds of thousands of people who love CT but I will do what I can to contribute to any costs to migrate to a free speech/conservative host.
Klicked Media says they offer “full WordPress hosting.” That’s definitely not going to work.
I mentioned this the other day but thought I better put it up again. Dave Rubin created LOCALS so creators own their content and can never be deplatformed. Here’s the link. It is subscription driven but the creator can charge what they want or perhaps make it free if the creator wants to. (I haven’t looked into it as a creator.) He set it up about a year ago when he started to see conservatives get deplatformed. https://www.locals.com/creators
Excellent alternative… Trump Jr has a LOCALS channel.
I may have completely misunderstood things, but doesn’t Locals charge for full access to content?
Keeps the trolls out and if someone gets through the site has payment info to identify the culprit. It’s a colorr revolution folks
WordPress dot com and Automatic can go stuff themselves. It is a simple matter to move this site to another hosting company and re-configure with open source wordpress from wordpress dot org.
I will be leaving WordPress with TCH.
Under prohibited content section 5, would include anything the left wing “fact checkers” disagree with. Most left wing “fact checkers” are either driven by marxist ideology or believe the left side propaganda. I would suggest that Sal P. needs to present examples of his evidence for public review.
They need to be forced to report on record why they are doing this. They need to provide the EVIDENCE of their claims.
Should Sundance move from their platform? Yes. They are trash people. But I repeat my promise for financial support. Get a lawyer and sue for answers. Sue for defamation or whatever standing can be had. Get them to PROVE their claims. Their refusal to support their claims shows they have no actual case.
The CTH is a threat to ‘their’ false narrative. WordPress is a pawn in this. They are complying with whatever pressure they are receiving. It’s unfortunate that you have to go through pawns to get to the truth but that’s what has to be done because the truth must be brought to light.
I think the “prohibition to calls for violence” is similar to “If she’d made me a better sandwich, I wouldn’t have hit her.” Your content creates THEIR violence. It’s your fault if they get violent, so shut up. .
Signed “Sal P. , Community Guardian”. A dystopian universe.
With out any warning and or demand to remove content in order to remedy the conflict and remain on the site WP is being transparent as to their motives….They can’t stand that Trump is MAGA HUGE and they are trying to chop the head off our snake.
They will fail. Word Press will instead wither and die on the vine as a result.
I can see from that list that anyone reporting the daily news could be said to be violating the terms of service. By promoting a post that shows the violence in our streets by others, you could be said to be promoting the violence that Antifa is doing in our streets. And, we all know that ‘hate speech’ is a globalist catch-phrase! So, apparently, it is against their terms of service to write about what is going on in the world!
I’ve said for years that the President, via the FCC should totally turn off all access to govt. regulated services, ALL OF THE INTERNET, when a hosting provider violates any of our constitutional rights…which WordPress IS doing! Going Broke might wake them up…I would recommend a 90 Day shutdown as a warning, and if the behavior continues post that 90 days, even 1 incident, they are totally shutdown. Without the Internet they are TOAST!
Like so many internet related “private” companies, is looks as if WordPress is deliberately trying to lose much of their core customer base. It’s as if they have a plan to replace the lost customer base (advertisers) and the revenue streams related to them..
How long will it take for the “owners” of internet services to destroy their traditional revenue stream?
Do they no longer need to attract advertisers?
Has propaganda control become the most profitable business?
It sounds as though it may be the items on violence (we do see Replies calling for violence) and the parts about misleading information on electioins, etc., which is being used to ban at Twitter and Facebook. The “misleading”, “unverified”, etc., is in their eyes, so is pretty subjective, biased. This is left-wing censorship, without a doubt…
We are seeing the communist/democrat end game happen before our eyes. This is it. If they lose, they are gone for a great while. If they win, and they are not hiding anything, we have 70+ years of darkness…unless civil war erupts, which is possible.
Why “70+ years of darkness?” Is this a biblical prophecy? What’s supposed to happen after 70 years?
Wherever your site is I will go there. As they say, (I will not say who says this) “crisis = opportunity”
HELP!! EVERY TIME I TRY MAKING A DONATION TO PRESIDENT TRUMP THIS MORNING, I RECEIVE AN ERROR MESSAGE( something about “honeybadger”). I know this is off subject, but I don’t know where to turn.. Tried several different browsers.
I noticed at donaldjtrump.com website, down at the bottom of the page, there is an app which may be useable.
“not prohibited content under sec5 calls to violence”
Black Lives Matter on WordPress:
Heres your calls to violence…
https://rescuingdemocracy.wordpress.com/black-lives-matter-movement/
https://wordpress.org/plugins/black-lives-matter/
Not that I have an ounce of agreement with Word Press but read the list of “offenses” very closely.
Ignore the mental gymnastics that goes with citing “violations” of the categories on this list via actual “typed” comments. In any legal or public challenge, Word Press will hang their hat on the fact that there have been “videos” and “links” posted on this this very site that do have “content” violating conditions spelled out in the “Pornography et al sub-paragraph” and “Gratuitous Violence sub-paragraph”.
That being said, if a host wants to de-platform a client they can find a reason that will stand scrutiny concerning that single client. Yet, they could never be accused of being consistent of applying rules equally to all clients. That is the new normal the puppet masters are ushering into existence.
Obama at 2016 Euro-Security Summit, after elections to EU Media not reported in US: “The American people have to get used to not enjoying their way of life and do not take for granted our systems of government and our way of life,”
Why not stop using the WordPress platform. I am presuming you are using WordPress.com You can take your word press installation and get a third party to host it. Start by setting up a local server – go to wordpress.org and download the latest build and sync it with an independent hoster. WordPress.com sucks and is overpriced. Am I missing something?
It is in our best interest that these people show their true faces, so the truth can be known and shown to those still wearing the blinders. Thankfully entrepreneurs have prepared for this and there are alternatives now, even though there is aggravation/expense/work in doing so. May Almighty God bless us with courage, shalom, wisdom, discernment, and revelation. And, May His recompense fall on the evil that denies us our Constitutional rights.
I guess they need to get new sites after killing their own business.
Here come da’ commies. Masks all off now, they mistakenly think they have an advantage right now. WRONG. Hope you fellow treeper’s have been stocking up on protective stuff. We’re ready and we’re going to bring it MF’s.
WordPress is just using the violence angle because they do not want to admit that their internal decision was likely based on Misrepresentative Content clause part.
So I guess now anyone that speaks the truth to power days, and is not in tune with the newspeak parrots of the MSM is in fact creating falsehoods and lies.
Fox news just did the same thing Solomon the other days. When they dropped him from the payroll and made a big deal, that he has allowed his opinion to creep into his investigate reporting.
In essence what Fox News did to him was labled all his investigated articles as nothing but opinion.
And, if Fox News, you know that place where of all us smelly walmart shopers go to get their news is trashing Solomon’s work.
What does that say?
Does it say, Solomon’s articles are works of fiction. He just a crank. Never mind that Solomon is speaking Truth to Power.
And coming from Chuck Ross of all people.
I truely do wonder if Mr Ross felt that when he was writing all those articles on the Awan brothers.
Sundance – I bet it is misrepresentative content, which are false claims that affect the electoral process. That is what they are all doing. What a disgrace about John Solomon. What is wrong with Lou Dobbs and Hannity? They go along with that garbage? Fox kicked off Joe DiGenova a while ago.
Thank you, Sundance!… for all of the work you put towards this great website!
Try FastComet
Apologies if this post is redundant. Tweet from the boss over at American Greatness:
The only way for Tyranny to flourish is the censor freedom
They have cancelled you for a very simple reason:
“Misrepresentative content. This includes but is not limited to:
Proliferating or creating verifiably false claims or content that could undermine participation or trust in an electoral or democratic process.”
ANY questioning of the presidential election is now unacceptable to the fascists running wordpress.com.
In fact, just allowing me to post this statement is now ILLEGAL under their terms of service!
I wonder why they never did this while the totally phony russian lie was propagated for years?
So, they include comments to flag site for violations on calls to violence, site closes comments, free speech and collaboration stifled. Comments included, site is deplatformed, free speech and collaboration stiffled. Either way works for them
The only reason I got a WordPress account was to allow me to like and comment on the CTH. When you leave…I leave. Please drop some breadcrumbs so we all can follow…don’t want to get lost in the woods! Evil lurks in the dark so let your light shine and we will be there! God Bless Sundance and the Treepers!!!
Very hypocritical of WordPress, seems to me. I looked at my dashboard this morning, and some of the blogs recommended for me by WordPress seem much more at odds with what they say their standards are…but then, they seem like very leftist blogs, so they get a pass it seems…
I have a supporting screenshot, but it would not post…
Sundance is smarter than this.
I have seen AOC publicly asking for names on what we would call an enemies list.
I have seen lists on Leslie McAdoo Gordon Twitter feed she copied from democratically controlled sites.
Has anyone noted the anti-free speech future Biden office holders?
It’s on and if Sundance is so alarmed that these same folks would pressure Word Press, he really has no clue.
The days of shouting from the highest treetop are over, unless you have backup, both physical and financial.
If CTH does this right, it will be stronger than ever.
If they keep whining like losers, it will fall dramatically.
More suppression drivil from Communists infesting the Technology Sector. These idiots believe they will be left alone once Totalitarians take over America. Little do they know that the first folks lined up against the wall are those that can effect the greatest number of serfs, regardless of their previous background. Trusted apparatchiks will then be given control of the platforms. Reason: Big Tech already operated against one government. They don’t leave to chance it won’t happen again!
Sal P. “Community Guardian” – there’s an Orwellian title for you. Subordinate office to the Ministry of Truth perchance?
Research on the name “Sal”: most popular from 1954 to 1975, peaking 1958 to 1963. Very unpopular since 1963. The meaning of Sal is “Saviour, rescuer”.
https://www.thenamemeaning.com/sal/
“Very unpopular since 1963” 1975.
Hate speech – speech you do not agree with. The very definition of free speech.
They can claim anything is hate speech. It is subjective. I will follow to the new platform. Good luck. We will still support you.
Let us know soon. I’ll be leaving WordPress,too.
You got a reason and a response, that’s more than Creeping Sharia did when WordPress/Automaticc deplatformed their site after 10+ years of detailing the threat of Islamic jihad and sharia (now present and growing in our Congress – as Creeping Sharia documented for 10+ years).
Sadly very few spoke up about censorship when they came for Creeping Sharia (recently banned from Twitter) and other sites.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/creeping-sharia-blog-banned-from-wordpress/
Accusing you falsely of violence sure sounds like defamation to me. I hope your attorney files a lawsuit based on that. Let them try and justify it in court and fund your organization for years when they can’t
What I see them deplatforming you for, Sundance, is political speech. Not hate speech. Not violence. Not porn. Etc.
They can call anything misinformation now if it doesn’t agree with Big Tech’s (elite forged, self-privileging) spin on politics. (It says it right there. “Undermine trust or participation in electoral or democratic process.” Which you have to admit takes a lot of sack, given what Big Tech and the globalist left are doing to disenfranchise hundreds of millions, maybe billions, of voters worldwide.)
When was that added to WordPress’s terms of use–agree with us politically or get out?
And what do they think they have to gain by doing this? They’ll lose audience share likely. Maybe that’s in their plan. Create polarization in media as they have created it in every other realm of life. Create chaos. Sit back and profit.
Somehow. For, looking at the legacy media it’s pretty clear that making money by providing wall to wall 24/7 puppet shows isn’t as lucrative a game as it was in the 1990s-2015. Maybe this is why the big media, and their auxiliary/feeder industries (e.g. PR and advertising), have been so quick to align themselves with Big Pharma: making your very mind and body the new realm of real estate to carve up as property and profit from managing.
I presume that options are being created for those of us who are tired of the Happy Fluffy Bunny Commie Destruction of Freedom Show. But my concern, judging from observations of Parler, is that the options will have their own Ministry of Truth settings. What you can and can’t say or talk about.
For instance I happen to be very fond of sites where young people blast forth their unedited views on every topic under the sun. I am told often that this is WrongSpeak because it contains terribly troubling (to the elders) stuff. I’m not so easily offended, but then I’ve taught young people back to the ’80s. Their minds are not improved by feeding on weak content, and being slapped on the nose with a ruled up newspaper by crazy dog ladies who take selfies with their “fur babies.” Their minds are improved by them honestly getting all their thoughts out on the table, in the presence of others doing the same thing…and having to defend those thoughts and consider others’.
So I fear that the First Amendment sun is setting.
My ancestors fought a Revolution, and established a Republic, under burdens vastly less than the ones we groan under today. But they were robust people, not addicted to comfort. Comfort makes a very nice Mouse Utopia. Till it doesn’t.
They will soon be losing my business, small as it is, but this kind of incremental exodus adds up over time. Besides a site that we have reserved for our own business, I administer two other WP sites for clients. I’m waiting to see where Sundance takes us, and then I’ll do whatever’s necessary to migrate their presence there. The best part is that my clients don’t even have to agree to the move. I am the admin, and they know next to nothing about web hosting. I can simply tell them that WP’s servers crashed, that WP has gradually become unreliable, that their content has been seamlessly moved (and upgraded) at no cost, AND that they should tell a friend! >wink<
it wouldn’t surprise me if someone with an axe to grind posts threatening comments, screenshots them, and sends them to wordpress as “evidence”. sure, they’re deleted…but they don’t care if you’re doing due diligence policing the comments. they only care that the comment was there in the first place.
Conservatives need to unite. Kick one of us out and all of us will leave.
What I mean is, all other conservatives in WordPress should leave with CTH. And take us the readers with them.
Cancel ours accounts is OUR “cancel culture”.
Lots of twitter reposts of violent blm & antifa yet that information, and provocation is by twitter not this website
We watch their violent Felonious videos in disbelief.
Sundance, I know this is a complete pain in the keister for you, but if the idiots at WordPress can’t even spell the word “Automatic,” does an intelligent content provider like you really need to associate with them at all? I hope you find a platform that has a superior comments feature. WordPress s*cks.