Many people are now becoming aware of a shift in the political effort to shut down speech. The Conservative Treehouse has been notified our “content” is not permissible, and after ten years we are kicked-out of WordPress/Automatic hosting services. Some people asked if we would inquire about the specific ‘terms of service‘ that we violated, so I did.
Here is the direct response from WordPress/Automattic (rec’d 6:48pm ET this evening):
No specific violation is noted. Below is the “Prohibited Content under section 5”
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I have no idea how “violation against prohibition on calls to violence” pertains to our content. You can read CTH for yourself and see if you can identify anywhere where we have promoted a “call to violence”, it doesn’t exist.
For the sake of fairness, that’s their entire reasoning as provided. That’s their reasoning; you can make up your own mind if it makes sense.
We are working on relocation now. However, many people are rightly alarmed by this move by WordPress/Automattic because over the course of ten years there has never been any previous contact about any violation of any terms. Nor is any specific violation noted in the reply.
Tomorrow we will find a new host.
Be of good cheer and live your best life.
Sundance
Power to you and all of us.
Wherever you go, that’s where I’ll be.
I will follow You
WWG1WGA
Sundance has us and we’re all moving. It will be ok.
Where we go one we go all
Yup. No more WP for me, in any way, shape, or form. Goodbye and good riddance!
BTW: any supposed “violations” were orchestrated by the trolls we regular Treepers have tried to shut down. We all know this.
That’s my guess too. IMO no article I ever read on CTH came anywhere close to violating those terms. Infrequently a couple of comments have been “over the edge” but were usually deleted by the moderators in a timely manner.
Quite possibly those comments were deliberately planted to violate the WP terms. I cannot see those rare exceptions being the cause for this action.
I think the content was just too truthful and too real for the Deep State Globalists who obviously run WP and want it to be just another source for their propaganda.
Yeah, well they’d have to explain this – which they won’t, because it could then be easily argued against.
Best for them to keep totalitarian secrets!
This I believe also which I why I began to aggressively respond to those I saw and encouraged others to do so also. We must do this as it then is in writing that we stand against the stuff the trolls are posting.
This is my only exposure to WP, and I won’t miss it one bit.
I only recently changed to word press, cannot stand it…before I used to comment under Sara c , I will follow the next road
Several years ago I opened a WP account so I could “Like” comments. It was the account from h*ll so I closed it which was the biggest mess ever as the WP kept telling me to login in to post when I had closed the account. Had to change my email address to continue! I won’t miss WP!
Yep. I will be deleting my OLD blog as soon as I download my content. This is a nonsense reply, just like farcebook did to me for my last 30 day jail sentence. I have now deleted my account there as well.
I would demand a specific example(s) of the violations of their rules. It’s disingenuous just to say it was violated. They need to show it.
This is the same BS the Communists use for all deplatforming and censorship. They always say violence, hate speech, and or racism without any proof a conservative site has anymore controversial user comments or content than any other site.
News flash, NYT and other outlets called for the President’s assassination and the forcing of conservatives into gulags. This is a war. You cannot be friends with a communist, even if they are family or neighbors or whatever. You should strive not to do business with them or associate with them. If they come for your liberty and freedom, let them take it from your cold dead hand.
And now one of Biden’s new transition team members is calling for the same type of language that Canada, England and much of Europe have classified as @hate” speech to be implemented bin the US. The burning of a Quran would be a violation of the new hate speech laws but not the burning of a Bible. Be very, very frightened of a Biden/Harris/Obama communist administration.
Sadly Canada implimented these laws a few years ago under Justine Trudope. That govno is ruining every single thing that was beautiful here.The people here are pathetic they just follow the laws, just obey. BLM creeped here a few years ago as well. God Bless PDJT and Sundance.
There is a mistake in your post,
“And now one of Biden’s new transition team members”
Regarding violations, does WP consider responses to be content?
If so, yes, there have been posters suggesting violence in response to lies, rights denied, or attacks on Constitutional rights. And I’ve often wondered how easy it would be to intentionally post comments or responses that “violate” the host’s rules. (i.e., who started the Reichstag fire?)
Regarding a new host: It is important during political-societal powerplays to resist getting confined to a ghetto. Once they have us confined, roundup (in this case, removing our intellectual presence from the www via deplatforming or even sequestering servers) becomes easier, and easily ignored by others, under threat of the same.
Looks to me like it’s about “misrepresentations” over “electoral or democratic processes”.
Well, duh, the obvious violation was Spam! We have years of examples of Liberty and Freedom of thought mixed and mingled over and over, chopped up and comingled, meat slapped against meat repeated ad infinitum, just like Spam. Can anyone deny CTH is a laminar firehose flow of solid red meat for Liberty? If that is Spam, let us wear that as a Red Badge of Courage!
https://automattic.com/about/
You can find Sal P here. In CA I found a company attorney and her bio says she loves the law and is a 1st amendment fan……go figure,
Elizabeth,
Excellent comment. I was thinking the same thing. Force the issue and ask for evidence/specific examples.
Sundance and crew,
You may want to find a new home anyways, but a little resistance
here against Word Press (show us the evidence of our violations) might be beneficial as a pushback against the “silence dissenting voices” movement.
Surely with all the data mining capabilities, extracting a list of all the examples of “violations” should be possible by Word Press. They should be able to provide a list of violating comments and precisely which “company policy” was violated by each comment. If they can’t provide clear examples then you may have a case for challenging them.
Again, you may decide to walk away anyways, but I know you love a good fight (peaceful protest).
Will you let us know who your new host is?
Yes of course they will.
Please be patient.
This is a huge task, coming only month and a half* after the huge WP update “glitch” that locked out so many from being able to comment or ‘Like’, and that Sundance and the mods had to work like crazy for a week to fix.
* https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/01/site-notes-updates-and-apologies/
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“glitch” is right. I doubt it was a glitch at all.
I think the majority of us suspect it was a planned or deliberate action, Especially since the hosts here were not notified before the changes were made.
Perhaps a set up for what was to come?
It is a reasonable assumption, a near certainty actually, that sundance owns the domain name of “theconservativetreehouse” dot com.
Assuming that the easiest course is taken and SD stays with WordPress as a content management system, just on another hosting company’s server, the migration should be transparent to the end users, so don’t delete your bookmark for this site. Might not want to delete your WP account either, as your information may remain intact after the move.
To an end user reader/poster, it might just look like the site has gone down for a few hours or a couple days, while the DNS address for the site name changes to point at the new server. (assuming everything goes well with the transfer)
It sounds weird, but think of it as moving from one house to an identical or nearly so house right across the street. All the stuff inside is the same, the clothes, the furniture, even the stuff in the fridge, just… over there. Maybe the color of the paint is slightly different, or the shrubs in the front yard. (in case SD updates the theme or something)
If something different or more complex is planned, I expect SD will inform us ahead of time.
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FU wordpress.
you have this site still online – https://nycantifa.wordpress.com/
we don’t want violence! i want you legally sued into Sec 230 submission.
and this one….
https://intlantifadefence.wordpress.com/
https://afainatl.wordpress.com/
etc!!!! you get the point.
wordpress supports antifa beating women and children.
wordpr__S C_O
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About the same thing as fractional (decimal) votes being reported. Liberals get to do what they want. Hopefully people will start voting with their wallets and starve these business that are all about driving a political narrative.
They are lying their azz es off! Total BS.
But if you look at the kind of stuff they keep on line, you’ll see we don’t belong. Crazy combative youth would not be a good fit with us. A Biden World is where WordPress was headed. I predict they will shortly be extinct.
Waiting to follow the forced migration.
You will prevail.
Cold anger pisses off the leftists. They’re scared.
Sundance,
Sent a few scheckles this morning to help with the relocation. God bless you, and all of us here on our branches.
Sal P is a Community Guardian
If that isn’t a job title for a new world totalitarian, I don’t know what is
Yep. A Communist Guardian.
Sue them
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That statement’s more full of holes than an old pair of underwear.
Can you end up letting us know who you use for hosting and who you purchased your domain with?
I’m working on a few projects that I want anonymity as much as possible… I know it won’t be easy, but still.
The one thing that we, as conservatives, need to do is consolidate, own, and control our own media, both electronic and print. An intrinsic advantage we have is that we do not censor other viewpoints, we welcome them and encourage debate. Real Americans want this, even honest liberals and Democrats.
While electronic media is important, we also have to get back to print distribution, like Lech Walesa and Solidarity did with Poland in the 80’s- pamphlets, handbills, posters, leaflets, etc. Much harder to censor print and most importantly, it stays around.
It’s not just the “media.” It’s also the money behind the media.
From 2016-2018 it was advertiser boycotts on social media which “forced” YouTube and other companies to remove “problematic content.” Now the advertisers’ terms of service have clauses built into them which provide legal cover for censorship. It’s cemented in place.
But it’s even worse than that. The payment processors (i.e. the banks) are now refusing to provide their services to anyone who provides or hosts “problematic content.”
It’s pretty hard to create and control one’s “own media” when a financial system drifting into corporate fascism refuses to extend one banking services.
That is what President Trump has been working to fix.
Remember the Main Street banking system that he and Mnuchin have been building via EOs that changed regulations… That would open up local and more user-friendly banking to consumers, small, and medium businesses that would not have to use the big Wall Street global banks
Sundance explained that very clearly over the past 4 years.
The globalists obviously hated the President because of his MAGA initiatives.
Samizdat.
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Well, I’ve never been one to hang out where I am clearly not welcome so.. looks like we Treepers will need to open up the wallets and plant us a new tree somewhere else where freedom exists.
I’ll follow you fine people to the ends of the earth if necessary.
Wolverines!
Me too!
Glad to see some regulars onboard. Can’t wait to get settled into our cabins, and start the party on the main deck! 🙂
Peoria me too. Reading some of the comments here for the past week or so, I felt so dirty. I will be following with my loving Treepers, this is the only thread I trust and basically follow. God Bless Sundance.
ps, WP can still kiss the fattest part of my ass too.
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Your domain will stay the same. Moving is as simple as finding a new hoster. I suggest Hostmonster or Fatcow. Both are extremely reliable. I use both with no complaints and their customer support is first class.
loses the content.
can you just transfer wordpress pages to other formats?
what if you link to an article currently written – does it dissapear?
wordpress specifically tried to STOP education.
Is it maybe because some of us have Ad Blockers?My Ad blocker just calculated it is blocking 14 ads from this site. Maybe if we all suspended our ad blockers on this site they would let us stay here?
But after what they have done, why would Sundance want to?
No…
Suspend our Ad Blockers, are you kidding ?
WP can sit on my middle finger and rotate.
BwaHaHaHa!
re adblockers …
I suspect it is not an issue of commerce but rather an issue of ideology
They support Antifa! Maybe they are new owners.
“Misrepresentative content”… “trust in”… “electoral or democratic processes”…
I don’t have an ad blocker out of choice, it’s out of necessity. Word press is forever going sideways!
Ad blocker makes wordpress work correctly. Otherwise, it jumps all over the page….so it’s their fault.
Yes, telling the Truth is seen as violence against the lie.
Exactly!
They even mentioned this website being deplatformed on Newsmax this afternoon. The left has lost its collective mind, if they ever had one.
“mentioned this website being deplatformed”
Mark Steyn also brought it up this afternoon on the EIB Network while filling in for Rush.
I also at times read BCP report and he too mentioned this site being deplatformed.
Sundance they’re paying you a huge compliment. You’re not being effective if they’re not trying to get you canceled.
They only Hate the Great.
Check with Vox Day, Unauthorized.tv and Social Galactic. He might be able to help you find a new platform. He’s been creating his own for years.
That mean WP has been reading ALL the commnets and misconstruing them
I WILL FOLLOW YOU WHEREVER YOU GO
MAGA
Haha….well they’ve been having midnight reading parties then because some of the threads have upwards of 2,000 comments. I can’t even get through them and I’m an avid reader of CTH, day and night. CTH and commenters are my surrogate family.
So bogus.
Community guardians – what a crock.
One local guy went to our Sen. Lee and complained when his group was shut down on Facebook. Facebook reversed and put the group back up. This just happened.
What about going to your Senators, or Congressmen?
Seriously.
Who is Derek Myles? I have been on this site for three years and I don’t member seeing this name on a posting.
Probably a name change
The government (FCC group) took over the internet under the Babylonian term “Net neutrality” around 2003. Everything this communist government touches they destroy.
Please keep us posted Sundance. We will follow ??♀️
It was from the “Community Guardian” ?
Wow! He must be Batman or even Superman..
Actually, it sounds like something out of Orwell.
Maybe somebody posted a video of people leaving Saturday’s rally who then got attacked.
“Proliferating or creating veritably false claims or content that could undermine participation or trust in an electoral or democratic process.”
How I would love to know when WordPress added that clause to their TOS, and which other advertisers have similar clauses in their own TOS.
It seems terribly specific to current events, and I am going to assume this the actual reason WP is kicking out CTH.
Except, this isn’t what CTH does, so WP would be disingenious if they tried to claim this as part of their reasoning.
CTH is one of the most thorough researchers of the truth.
You are exactly right though, it is suspiciously specific to current events.
It is a given that whatever justification WP chooses to give is given disingenuously.
Every social media company’s TOS is purposefully vague; this allows them to throw any content creator they does not like off their platforms. A social media TOS is an excuse to control, and failing that, censor; nothing more.
I’m actually surprised WP hasn’t yet included clauses about “denying scientific facts” (climate change) and “advocating or spreading misinformation about public health and safety measures” (pandemic) in order to purge wrongthink about those two pillars central to the emerging technocratic feudal system.
That’s what I thought also. Community Guardian says no one will demean president elect Bidet! ?
I wholeheartedly agree and thought the same. When was this added to their TOS? Isn’t it great when entities like WordPress can discriminate against others because of their political beliefs?
This was ramping up under Obozo when banks were forced to stop doing business with certain groups because they were hated by the left.
Do you have an opinion, angry one? Then post it, your feelings are of no real interest.
Does prohibited content apply to comments or just to the published content by SD? CTH was deplatformed because the site opposed Biden, BLM, ANTIFA, commies, the uniparty and the stealing of the election. So up yours WP. Can SD add the middle finger to WP?
MAGA can’t be destroyed and Treehouse won’t be either. Nice try commies
No worries Sundance; you, I, We continue to move forward in our quest for the truth and justice amid this daily drumbeat of leftist censorship of wokeness.
Persist in liberty and freedom of speech as We all walk away in the light that God sheds upon us to lead us out of this evil turmoil.
News alert to the lefties: We are just getting started.
War!
The letter from Word Press was signed “Community Guardian”. These little tech brats live in their own world – I pray it comes crashing down.
Mark 13:1-2
1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!
2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
It was not your content. It was the comments. Since they are allowed to show, you are held accountable for them. They get a little rough at times.
It weren’t the comments. They’re not scared of that. They would allow open calls to murder if the target were conservatives. it’s amazing how naive you are. They deplatform everyone who questions the election.
Spare me. It wasn’t the comments; it was “the enemy’s” anti-corruption anti-communist point of view.
It is WRONG! Name the specific violations of TOS that are cited by the provider. You can’t because they have provided NONE! Nor have they ever warned the CTH of any previously perceived violations. There are no excuses and yours is pathetic.
“I have no idea how “violation against prohibition on calls to violence” pertains to our content.”
Nope. If they had found something like that they would have documented it. They will just use the vague term “hate speech”. Not it’s “hate speech or” not “hate speech and”.
It’s whatever liberal tyrants don’t like. That’s your crime.
It’s about the election. Not “violence”. Or “hate speech”.
They create a narrative & a caricature of their enemies, apply it to those who they perceive as threats to them – without any actual evidence – and act thereon as if they were dealing with the real world. Same thing they’ve been doing to the president for the past four years. Fake news, detachment from reality, living in a PC world of their own making.
It’s the very definition of psychosis and it pervades the left.
Unfortunately, they’ve dragged an entire generation into this delusion.
The Left is anti-reason. I guess that qualifies as psychotic.
I wonder if the “undermine trust in an electoral process” language was there four years ago.
I actually think that’s the key issue. Although they can ban everyone they don’t like because of “hate speech”. Criticize Obama or Harris? You’re a racist.
I have been following you for 7 years now and I’ll continue to sponsor you and follow you to any platform you choose, Sundance. You are my first and last read of the day. God Bless you.
RAPE, PILLAGE, PLUNDER; AMERICA YOU’VE BEEN HAD! (Proposed name of book first attempted publication in 1986, but turned down by DOD due to refusal to remove classified material. Book name updated after Obama elected to second term to: RAPE, PILLAGE, PLUNDER; AMERICA YOU’VE BEEN HAD AND IT’S YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT! Attempted to get publication permission after D. Trump elected, but DOD again refused due to amount of classified material therein exposing many sitting and retired political officials.
As an old retired soldier/cop I have only one question for my fellow Americans. What is it going to take for you to pick up a weapon and stand a post?
Soldier/Cop/Grunt, Retired
Bannon’s War Room also mentioned the deplatforming of CTH. By the way, if you’re not tuning into War Room you really should. Very good (and broad) coverage of our current fight. They are back up on YouTube with twice-a-day programs.
Also “American Thinker” (which has fairly often cited CTH content in its commentary) and the Washington Examiner, and our old “friend” shipwrechedcrew at RedState, and Diana West, to name a few I have seen.
i tried watching it, but can’t disregard the cnn scrolling news ticker at his ear level. plus he has one below him also. it’s a podcast, i’m looking for breaking news on a ticker. he must know it’s distracting. he knows all about media, being involved with breitbart at their beginning. it’s probably because i haven’t watched cable news in 30 years, but i just can’t stand it.
My mom always said that you should never beg for someone to take your money. If they don’t want your business find someone else who will appreciate it instead.
The Treehouse was having significant with issues weeks ago. I have no idea if these events are related, but I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if the earlier “issues” were engineered.
Of course they were “engineered”. I have time-stamped, screencapped proof of funny stuff going on with our blog’s settings.
Thanks Ad rem for all the hard work you Sundance and crew have been doing. Could tell it’s been a massive effort because Sundance hasn’t posted much lately. Treepers have been ‘crowdsourcing the truth’ to take up the slack and all are much appreciated. Hope you give us a heads up when the move comes. ?
Promise!
Thank you, gray furred kitty Ad rem! Thanks for all you do.
SD…. I know you are busy looking for a plan B. I have been trying to scope one of those since I realized the monstrous nature of the beast we faced. I know this has to be hell for you guys but we still need your love man.
When JB & KH met in public for the first time since the convention (Arizona I believe) and there was literally no one present I figured it out. If I spotted it we know the madman did. He commented on the fraud several times. He also kept quiet about the Transition Integrity Project. This was an obvious attempt to bait him. Trust the Trump he knows. ?
At this point I would assume he’s got some pretty ironclad evidence. Personally I don’t care if he doesn’t have jack shit. I know what happened; you folks know what happened. We get ready now there are things we can do. We have leverage bigly. Yes it’s ugly but so is living in a society run under the NWO under the Marxist flag.
Find a safe haven but do not forget the importance of what you do for each of us. Not trying to blow smoke up your ass big guy. We need you in the fight. This is mainly a propaganda war for now. I have been trying my damndest from escalating it. There’s only so much one man can do this I know.
When JB & KH met in public for the first time since the convention …
James Brown and Kimo Hollinger ?
Sorry, Luke, but your initials aren’t helping me much
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
???? Who?
???
Thank you Sundance!
Please live your best life as well!
What you have created here is really something special.
Sundance, they’ve got you on the last item, the “catch all”:
“Any content that is inappropriate or not ‘family safe’ as determined by us in our sole discretion.”
The kommunity sturmfuherer can dump any thing/one at his/her/its pleasure; oh, and if you need any help clearing your stuff out, just give the friendly old sturmfuherer a ring.
Sundance, I’m sure many of your followers would be more than happy to contribute to help offset the cost of moving over to another provider. Please let us know how and where we can help. You’ve been there for us. We will be there for you!
magagal, donate button at the top of the page still works. I used it this morning.
Ahh, Sundance, the world (well, at least our world) watches and amidst all of the turmoil what we read from you is that you will press on and your advice to us is to “Be of good cheer and live your best life.” Bravo, thank you, and Godspeed. We will endeavor to realize your counsel.
I might add – and encourage our fellows to do the same!
Probably “The Lord’s Prayer” burned their weasel eyeballs.
I look forward to The Lord’s Prayer, love Grandma Covfefe and her prayer daily. I truly feel so much lighter especially the last couple of weeks with all the different wierdo’s and their comments here. God Bless.
JSH YES ! THAT IS IT !! AND THEIR WARPED SOULS !!!!