While it might seem frustrating to see republicans and conservatives demanding that President Trump stop talking about the greatest act of sedition and usurpation, within our Constitutional Republic in the history of our nation, this espousal by Andrew McCarthy is factually a very wide-spread opinion within the DC beltway:
Take the intents in their best possible light, and the basic premise is that no-one cares about the abuses of power that took place. National Review article by Rich Lowry is here.
I have shared by own thoughts on this matter several times; and despite knowing this issue may not/will not drive the 2020 election; in my own contemplation I keep coming back to this central question: How can this be ignored?…
… How does the office of a U.S. president; and more importantly the republic itself; survive a coordinated coup effort involving all three branches of government; while simultaneously those in charge of exposing the corruption fear the scale is too damaging for them to reveal?
What are your thoughts?

The President cannot ignore the attempted coup and assassination for doing so would only embolden the enemy. The enemy did not hesitate to break the law. It’s the President’s turn to use the power of his office. Declare Martial law, dissolve Congress and the Judiciary, and suspend the writ of habeas corpus.
ummm….no!
What they did was treason, get Flynn away from Sullivan and put him in charge of military tribunals, if any are found guilty, shoot them. The punishment for treason is death.
Do as Trump suggested and move all main offices of govt into different states, leave next to nothing in DC. Lease space until new buildings can be built.
Dismiss immediately all in the FBI, CIA, DOJ who had the slightest knowledge of what was going on and did nothing, no pension, no retirement, no healthcare, nothing.
Get rid of all Bush, Obama, Clinton hires in the DOJ. Cut the FBI budget down to a fifth of its size and put the FBI under the US Marshalls. Do as Kennedy wanted and end the CIA, that alone will get Trump a peace prize.
Lastly, DC’s “independence” needs to be revoked.
IMO , it is the only issue in this election. If the permanent government is allowed veto power over who the people elect then the people become the servants of the government not vice versa.
Great comment, Devilsdictionary. Spot on. “What they are asking for is unconditional surrender and to that I say “Nuts”. Jinmichigan, in his comment on top
Is McCarthy literally pretending he hasn’t read Judge Collyer’s 99 page piece on the FISA abuses and the follow up by Judge Boasberg? Or has the Beltway successfully managed to keep copies of those opinions out of the right hands? I’m pretty sure they read it, and Barr too. And there’s frankly nothing negotiable after you read that.
Someone tweet that to the basket
the FBI never addressed 2017 Collyer FISC report
never addressed 2018 Boasberg Report
2019 FISC boasberg Report he writes they told him to FCK OFF.
https://4thamendmentrestored.com/nsa-database-topic
Not to put too fine a point on it, but screw Andy McCarthy, and all who sail with him.
My thought is this: Trump should be agitating for an INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
We got one for the phony Russia collusion non-crime. Why can’t we get one for these real crimes?
The DOJ is conflicted — Rosenstein and Yates were deeply involved in this mess.
If a set of circumstances ever cried out for an independent counsel/prosecutor, it is this.
Dear President Trump: Please start agitating – agitating – agitating for an Independent Counsel.
NR reminds me of this?
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This is absolutely the most important issue in the history of the republic !
You can call it anything you want but it was the most serious action in our history.
It was :
1) an attempt to DESTROY our election system by using the power of government to pick the election winner
2) It actually DESTROYED our history of PEACEFUL transitions
3) It did not create a 2 tiered justice system – it has DESTROYED any semblance of A JUSTICE SYSTEM !
4) all 3 branches of our government are now provably corrupt
The House of representatives is a joke – impeachment, 25th amendment, adam schiff nancy pelosi – and on and on
the senate is a cesspit – look at scsi – warner, burr as examples look at the Kavanaugh “hearings” – “the most deliberative body in the world” ha ha ha !
the judicial system is a joke – just look at sullivan, dc circuit, amy berman jackson – more “legislation” by “black robes” than by congress !
the executive is a laughingstock – doj, fbi, state dept, just for starters – Prosecutions invented and then turned into PERSECUTIONS ! bureaucrats in direct defianc of the President on a daily basis – 10, 15, 20 agents to frogmarch 60-70 year old citizens and triple amputee veterans, some in the middle of the night ! – Bankrupting a 3 star general in an INVENTED lie – for FOUR YEARS -and it isn’t over yet !!!!
Get the picture ? How many ways can you spell sedition !
And you want this IGNORED ???
Easy for McCarthy and Lowrey to say let’s ignore it! They seem to be part of the coup. Something like that is said when the stakes are high and the culprits are desperate. I don’t believe people don’t care!
….of course people care. Probably “justice for all” the most they care about. Andy is an elitist POS.
Putin Endorses Joe Biden: Democrats and Russian Communists Have ‘Shared Values’
Russian President Vladimir Putin has appeared on national TV in Russia and given a glowing endorsement for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s election campaign.
Russia’s president tells public of similarities between Communism and Democratic polices
https://newsthud.com/putin-endorses-joe-biden-democrats-and-russian-communists-have-shared-values/
PLEASE TWEET AND RETWEET
This “Putin” guy went to KGB School?
Well, I didn’t go to KGB School, and I coulda told you that.
And, By The Way… this becomes a Trump Campaign ad when, exactly?
Think about it, doesn’t it seem more like a kiss of death??
Putin probably has less use for these people than we do. I think he feels if Trump can win again he can work with him, neither want wars. And you don’t have to bribe Trump and these Dems can get expensive.
Putin understands the term; “Useful Idiots” as well as any Communist leader.
Spoogels, here is a transcript of Putin’s interview. He’s playing both sides.
The source you give did a pick and choose on the quotes. You have to read it all. He has his agenda. And that is to hedge his bets.
https://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/64171
Agreed.
Rich Lowry and National Review? Remember the gang of 22 who shockingly campaigned against Trump This is just another in a long list of their anti-Trump screeds. Why haven’t Lowry et al. used their bully pulpit to help the President get the full story out about any of the Establishment weaponizing of the government and spying on Trump and his campaign, and the complicity of the media in all of this? Because Lowry and his ilk are sneering NeverTrump Establishment fops, and Trump is getting so close to LEGALLY blowing the lid off of all of this and the poor darling may be caught up in the explosion. There is not a pit deep enough in hell to house their treacherous, evil souls.
Most of us are dealing with Covid shutdown financial and social burdens.
Our kids go to school with mandatory masks and ridiculous social rules.
We watch nightly while everyone can loot and burn and get away with it,while rights of average citizens are crushed.
For most of us normal people, the last covid months have been hell
And we are exhausted.
We will crawl through glass to vote for our beloved President, but quite frankly, he’s not in our trenches.
We are alone.
So, yes we care what happened.
But, we are too busy trying to keep our families okay that if President Trump can’t hold them accountable, neither can we.
Sundance gives detail after detail and nothing happens.
Meanwhile, while President Trump can take off his mask, none of my family and clients can.
We will all vote red
But we definitely feel alone.
They want to kill Trump.
No he is not in your trench.
He is front & center deflecting the bullets aimed at America.
Politics is local. Never forget that fact.
There needs to be a reckoning with accountability and punishment.
McCarthy, with this opinion, has exposed his true character.
He is not one of US! He is one of THEM!
Amen!
BIG McCarthy disappointment.
He tricked me for a while.
Mr. McCarthy, you have neither character nor morals. Michelle Hussein Obola has more of another important attribute than you’ll ever have.
PS Those were attribute*s*. Two of them, in normal men.
Moochelle, not precisely normal, has four of them.
McCarthy has zero (counting in Lowry’s assistance in the matter).
That’s one fewer than Hitler.
My thoughts are I have followed Spygate for 4+ years, I’ve driven many Leftists mad by going over the plot and the players, and ANYONE who did this to Soetero would be in federal prison right now. Andrew C MCarthy, with all due respect, you and Lowry can take that opinion and idea and shove It up your cabooses. I want the coup plotters arrested, convicted, and sentenced. I also want President Trump to bring lawsuits in civil court Against all the coup plotters. I want them to pay for what they have done to this President, General Flynn, and many others. I will stop when Sidney Powell stops. And you can bet your sweet ass Sidney isn’t stopping anytime soon. If Sidney is still fighting, I’m still fighting, with our without Andrew C and fancy pants Rich and the whole lot of them at National Review. I’m worked up tonight!
Go look up The National Review’s founding principles as written by Buckley. It’s an interesting, short read. Gems.
We don’t care about the DC elites. Trump must see the coup put down and all of the bad actors punished. A couple of death sentences for treason would go a long way to ensure this isn’t repeated.
My thoughts?
Rich Lowry wishes for subscribers, too. Guess what he ain’t getting. Wish on, incapable caretaker, wish on.
McCarthy just never really got it. There is something pitiful about smart and accomplished people who just cannot get over their conceit to break out into a blossomed, clear thinker. “Dumb” deplorables don’t have that conceit, so they see things the way they are, and they get it.
Rich Lowry became famous when, challenged by a decrepit Al Franken, ran like the effeminate coward that he is and hid under his desk, in Biden / Democrat tradition.
Compared to dainty Rich Lowry, even Ben Shapiro is a macho beast.
As for McCarthy, once again, SHAME on this crook for having been “controlled opposition” and a double agent for years.
Now he’s servicing Lowry’s needs.
Disgusting.
The President mentioned he was Draining the Swamp just today speaking to the Blexit crowd. It is his battle cry. He will never relent. He knows they are still plotting his demise. BTW he has absolutely no use for beta males like Lowery and Mc Carthy.
This is not acceptable, no, not at all,
If AG Barr and the DOJ lawyers do nothing with the information all the investigators have uncovered and compiled they are no better than those individuals who conspired against President Trump and We the People and should also be indicted and treated no different then the coup perpetrators in a court of law. And please, don’t forget the top management of all the MSM and other left wing liberal publications who were active in this coup while the ultimate punishment is being handed out. Our country can always elect new members of Congress and Senate to replace those who participated in this coup. They are few compared to the millions of real patriots in this country who will meet the call.
My view?
McCarthy does this now and again. He has good points sometimes then he acts like an old fart stuck deep in the cog of pathetic hopelessness. His pragmatism renders him impotent often. See it over and over. I know a barrister like this. Amazingly efficient at ‘conflict resolution’… but when I dug deeper because I had to years ago, what it turned out to be was that his ‘typology’ was one of ‘closure preference’. Look up the MBTI ‘J’ judgmental vs ‘P’ perceiving. The J’s like to tie things up in bows so they can get on with the next thing even if the other thing is not fully resolved.
This is what I see in him and other DC types you mention. Those that have the stomach for digging up the bones until we find the prehistoric DNA, (like you Sundance), do not rest, because add in some more typology here – being able to see the big picture – e.g. the consequences of NOT doing something about it, will extend to more rotten filth in the future because the darn thing was not sorted out properly NOW.
This is my take. Stay the course until every mangrove root has been pulled out of that swamp and examined for parasites.
This is just typical pathetic loser talk. They can go back to sleep and their regular 6pm cocktails at the stuffy old boys club and leave the hard work to the big tough and nails boys who don’t cringe at hard dirty work, which is what is needed here.
Andy McCarthy and Rich Lowry are full of shit.
There have been exactly 2 piddly convictions, Wolfe and Clinesmith. They were both given sweetheart deals to keep them silent. The Professional Liars have been hiding this story when not actively trying to overthrow the government themselves. The FBI, CIA and DOJ are all still obstructing justice and committing sedition. The Democrat Party will not address it. The only one speaking to this Coup Attempt, the Biggest Scandal in American History, is the President and us.
If Democrats ever take back power before confronting this Constitutional Crime Wave, that will institutionalize an American Police State forever.
And that is a Fort Sumter Moment.
You had better hope to God the President does not stop talking about this, boys. You don’t know what you’re asking.
Equal justice! If it were you or me we would be executed. When Hillary said Trump was destroying our institutions she meant “our” as in her and hers, not you and not me. Our Republic is a joke if Russiagate is swept under the rug.
Equal justice! If it were you or me we would be executed. When Hillary said Trump was destroying our institutions she meant “our” as in her and hers, not you and not me. Our Republic is a joke if Russiagate is swept under the rug.
Equal justice! If it were you or me we would be executed. When Hillary said Trump was destroying our institutions she meant “our” as in her and hers, not you and not me. Our Republic is a joke if Russiagate is swept under the rug.
That would signal the end of the republic, and law and order.
Absurdly, this is so understandable and predictable coming from Lowrey and McCarthy. Lowrey has long been a wimpish soy-boy and has ruined National Review. McCarthy seemed to be a never-Trumper, then started to seem like he was coming around, and now with this latest idiocy seems to have fully reverted to his former Beltway self.
This is the biggest political scandal in American history, and these shmoes say Trump should just let it go! I would imagine that these two are just as corrupt as all of their friends who they know are likely to go down when the truth comes out. They know if we let it go, and their buddy Biden wins, it will certainly be broomed away. I’ll never trust either of these faux-conservatives again.
It’s rather ironic that I was a long-time subscriber to National Review while William F. Buckley was still the editor. The naive libertarian in me became disenchanted with them because of their strong stance against unbridled (including illegal) immigration. Back then I believed that everyone trying to come here only did so because of the desire for a better life for themselves and their families and were willing to work hard and contribute to society to bring that about. I cancelled my subscription because of their hard-line stance. Now, NR is among the biggest advocates of open borders! Worthless quislings like Lowrey, Kevin Williamson, and Andrew McCarthy have successfully purged their great institution of the likes of Mark Levin, Mark Steyn, and others and have all but guaranteed their path to ruin AKA the Weekly Standard. A pox on all of them.
At 9:04 pm TarsTarkas said ‘I think they just want Trump to focus on issues that voters can understand.’ That is correct if they mean what TarsTarkas says. If they want to just protect themselves – SCREW THEM along with the Dems, Rinos and media.
Several people mentioned priority 1 is to get PDJT re-elected. It is. There are only so many days left. PDJT does not have to convince Treepers. He has to convince people sitting on the fence. Fence sitters may be more interested in getting back to work, getting their kids back to school, affordable health care and taking care of their elderly.
Sucking up all the air time about Russiagate is less time for him to expound on what he is going to do FOR the people. Railing about the corrupt FBI/DOJ and how HE was treated “unfairly” will not matter to the bartenders or waitresses who are going to lose their homes.
Getting the Boss re-elected is first. Justifying what he will do FOR THE CITIZENS is more important than telling people out of work about the in justice. Unfortunately, some people may think he is complaining.
After he gets re-elected, then let him bring all the bastards to justice. Fire them. Prosecute them. Burn the bastards at the stake.
We should NEVER forget Russiagate. But get him re-elected first.
MAGA
At 9:04 pm TarsTarkas said ‘I think they just want Trump to focus on issues that voters can understand.’ That is correct if they mean what TarsTarkas says. If they want to just protect themselves – SCREW THEM along with the Dems, Rinos and media.’
I was actually quoting another poster and commenting. McCarthy and Lowery may THINK they know what voters can understand. But they’re wrong. I had a later nasty post concerning my reaction to their wish that POTUS just call it water under the bridge. That would end the rule of law in this land. If you commit a crime or try to, and nothing happens, you learn a lesson; you can continue to flout the ‘law’ with impunity.
If we had been prosecuting the corruption, calling out the media biased, and not letting a PC society emerge we wouldn’t be in a uniparty government right now. We also need to use these crimes to but in term limits and spread the cabinet from sea to shining sea.
McCarthy was an original never Trumper as a contributing author to National Review’s “The Case against Trump!” during the campaign.
Of course this engorged statist tick thinks acts of sedition ain’t no thing!
This was a coup, and it is still ongoing. I just voted today for the only President in my lifetime that has dared to stand up to the political corruption and criminality that plagues our nation. May he find the way to restore America to its constitutional ideals. I say drop the hammer on these crooks. NO MERCY.
The last people President Trump should listen to are inside the beltway types like Lowrey and McCarthy. I have not read National Review since the Never Trump edition was published in 2016. Big Yawn.
Exactly. I only go on a few websites today for my politics and sundance is the best out there.
244 years ago our Country was formed in liberty upon the belief that man was endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights. Our Founders took the bold position that the power of the majority should be tempered by protection if minority rights. This unique approach to governance has served us well. But a Republic is not easy. The baser instincts of man always turn toward selfish aggregation of power. It is this instinct which has brought us to where we are today. It is this instinct which must be resisted at all costs. We cannot let “russia gate” fatigue remove our desire to fight for our Republic. Our Founders brought forth a government that is worth fighting for, worth preserving. We must never lose sight of the wonder that is our Constitution. To do otherwise is to consign our fate to lives of servitude and despair.
The people are no longer public servants– I don’t know how long ago that notion died, but in my short lifetime they are enriching themselves at the expense of the taxpayer. Spread these agencies to the wind– Jackson MS, Wichita KS, Greenville NC, Green Bay WI, etc.
Here’s my message to “Never Trumper” Rick Lowry. Put it where the sun don’t shine brother!
So then rich lowry and Andy mccarthy need to be asked the question also.
If no one cares, why do they?
These squishy Republicans are the stupidest kind of people I’ve ever listened to or read.
That human beings cannot multitask and speak about multiple topics.
Shame on all those who don’t care. The US was attacked by terrorists within our own Government. Worse, those terrorists tried to get President Trump to start a war with Russia for something Russia didn’t do. What damage has this done to relations or future relations with other countries. If corrupt politicians, the FBI and CIA can do something as horrible as this to a sitting President in their own country, then imagine what corrupt deeds they are doing to other countries.
So corrupt men like Andrew McCarthy speak for 330,000,000 others here on American soil? Is that how this works? McCarthy says “most people” don’t care about Russiagate so that’s that, right? Felons, traitors and seditionists get to walk because why? Because hornpipe Billy Barr is stringing this thing out as a convoluted Fool’s Errand of twisted facts. His theory is: if you make it sound complicated and boring the real outrage will fizzle out and we can keep doing our institutional best to keep the trough full and the deep state denizens well-oiled and well-fed. In his show with Limbaugh, Trump said he was gonna bust Barr’s balls first thing when he got back to D.C. Was that brag or fact? No matter what, Andrew McCarthy is safe so there’s that. What a effen mess.
Of course the GOP establishment wants Trump to just drop the Coup Conspiracy. Because it’s very likely that many high level Republicans were involved in it, were informed by Obama admin what they were going to do, and blessed it. This probably leads right to McConnell, Paul Ryan, Senators Burr and McCain and maybe some others.
Unless the coup plotters are properly punished,
The republic last lost.
I am not sure what comes next.
No effin way
People like Andrew McCarthy, and most Republican politicians, are the ones letting down the side by not joining the fight for justice. Trump is the only one pushing for what is right. The only problem is Trump doesn’t phrase it well.
He needs to deliver a calm, neat story that people wouldn’t mind hearing. At the moment, he does NOT sound presidential. Rather, Trump sounds like an excited schoolboy crying ‘wolf’.
And on November 4, he needs to make serious personnel changes.
Oh Oh pick me pick me (Hand shaking crazily in the air).
They are part of the big criminal operation and do not want sedition charges that will take everything they have seditiously stolen from the AMERICAN PEOPLE and returned to said people.
Similar to all those criminals calling for defunding the police so no one can stop them for all the future crazy they have planned.
So what do I win?
It is not so much a big club that we are’t a part of. More like a very large coven.
It’s a witch hunt folks. And it will be so much easier to take this group down when they are no longer in positions of power. After the election things are gonna speed up exponentially.
We don’t need these arrest to win this D5 avalanche of winning votes to put this down once and for all.
Well, they can ignore it if they wish, but if Trump loses on November 3rd they will wake up on November 4th with the realization that the America they once knew and loved, no longer exists! So will we all wake up to that real possibility. Simply stunning how far these establishment GOP’ers have their heads up their asses!
I don’t blame the President for being furious that this happened to him and no one is being charged.. While he should mention it, I believe he should spend most of his campaign touting his successes and Bidens’ failures… Just my opinion
Andy, you are wrong. The American people want accountability. We want the truth and the whole truth to come out.
If the coup was launched because of Trumps antiglobalist stance, isn’t the point of prosecuting the coup plotters to stop them from continuing to sell the United States down the river? Maybe people believe dirty politics is a constant. But this was not just personal ambitions of some corrupt politicians. There are too many indicators that the country itself is at stake. Aren’t the same people who obstructed the 2016 election and his presidency for 4 subsequent years furiously working now to prevent his re-election?
Doesn’t it matter that the USA not be owned by China?
Resolution or Revolution.. Jefferson style.
Anyone who says that the Russia Hoax doesn’t matter cares nothing for the rule of law.
They are part of a very serious problem and possibly corrupt themselves..
First I could care less what the beltway perverts think. HOWEVER, the timing relative to revealing is well past optimal relative to the election. I mean this from my heart, my gut instincts and my brain; either reveal EVERYTHING in one bombastic package via evidence without redactions, NOW, or wait until after the election. Having said that my new preference is to wait. Why? Two reasons:
1. It really is too late to impact anything. Unless you release something that shows Biden was deep in the plot, have audio or video tape of it, and it is profound yet simple enough to understand, it won’t change anything. We already know the complexities. There were and are twenty ways from Sunday built into the defenses. Better to prepare to launch later, fo reason number 2.
2. Dims are planning holy hell after Election Day. Contested ballots, finding more ballots, lawsuits, riots, you name it. What better time to launch operation Nuke Your Azz. No matter how the election results initially are, the President will have a period of time to kick butts and throw haymakers. Hit them with tons of evidence, force Durham and Barr to proceed on Trump Time or get rid of Barr. Release the hounds of sunlight via all the dirty laundry. It will make the Dims Post-election efforts obvious to most everyone. Indictments should follow. Destroy them. Cripple them. Expose them all.
This should have been done 2 months ago. Barr’s group had enough sand in the gears to slow everything perfectly for the deep state crowd.
This all proves the reality of where we sit right now: Our President must focus on winning this election, and bringing down ballot Republicans victory with him. Nothing else is more important.
Dear Mr Lowry: STICK THIS SUGGESTION WHERE THE SUN DON’T SHINE.
I’ve been saying for months, right here on this and other sites, that the average voter isn’t interested in the subject, the Hillary email, or anything else connected to the Russia story. We here are preaching to the choir and the average voter isn’t part of that choir.
That doesn’t matter. We can walk AND chew gum. “Average” voters rarely contemplate more than their own navel lint. So what. President Trump can kiss their babies, fatten their paychecks AND hang the traitors. It’s all in a day’s work.
Both the base and the undecideds need to be fed their red meat. Trump can handle it all. Yes, appealing to the undecideds is mandatory—and PDJT is all over that.
But it’s just as important to keep the base riled up. If we lose hope, all is lost. Remember old GHWB—“Read my lips, no new taxes,” . . . just before he caved. He lost his base, and we got 8 years of the Clintons.
If we go down this time, it won’t be for a paltry 8 years. We’ll be done. The crooks will wire everything up so tight that we’ll never be back again.
I think you have terrific suggestions. You take into account Pres Trump’s character. At 5:03-ish he explains his belief on punching back. Remember the correspondents dinner and Obama? Remember Pelosi ripping up his SOTU speech? Her sardonic clapping? Now we know that this ENTIRE THING was hatched by Hillary. Does anyone with any comprehension of human nature actually think that Donald Trump is going to LET IT GO!? Ha! The whole reason we elected him was to kick butt and take names !!!
Doing it now means more voters for Trump. Doing it later doesn’t mean much if Trump is not President.
Agree.
Let me assure you
I care very much!
In Hebrew, the word Satan means…accuser….or more correctly ‘false accuser.’
Then you understand how ‘false accuser’ = ‘destroyer’ of lives.
The efforts to hold powerful political criminals accountable, is the hardest part of a Republican government, where ultimately it is the citizens who must demand it.
This may be true of the morally compromised including those possibly at the pinnacle.
(cough**John Roberts)