While it might seem frustrating to see republicans and conservatives demanding that President Trump stop talking about the greatest act of sedition and usurpation, within our Constitutional Republic in the history of our nation, this espousal by Andrew McCarthy is factually a very wide-spread opinion within the DC beltway:
Take the intents in their best possible light, and the basic premise is that no-one cares about the abuses of power that took place. National Review article by Rich Lowry is here.
I have shared by own thoughts on this matter several times; and despite knowing this issue may not/will not drive the 2020 election; in my own contemplation I keep coming back to this central question: How can this be ignored?…
… How does the office of a U.S. president; and more importantly the republic itself; survive a coordinated coup effort involving all three branches of government; while simultaneously those in charge of exposing the corruption fear the scale is too damaging for them to reveal?
What are your thoughts?

Letting it go would severely damage our republic. I would dare say it could be fatal if the people guilty of sedition and such major corrupt activities are left unscathed. What about the people investigating and uncovering this mess who have laid their reputations on the line, worked endlessly (see Sundance for one)? What, just let it go?? HELL NO!!
To let it go signifies that all us Treepers time, prayer, and supplication was in vain!
No… as the ten bridesmaids, who half (5) allow their oil to go dry, and the other 5 fought the good fight of faith. We must stand till the 12th hour!
Like KAG said so eloquently stated, “fatal” is the result.
“trillions are at stake.”
“the unborn lives are at stake.”
“our constitution is at stake.”
“As the generations pass they grow worse.A time will come when they have grown so wicked that they will worship power; might will be right to them and reverence for the good will cease to be. At last, when no man is angry any more at wrongdoing or feels shame in the presence of the miserable, Zeus will destroy them too. And yet even then something might be done, if only the common people would rise and put down rulers that oppress them.”
-Greek myth on the Iron Age
It really does show the coward ness of the R’s in Congress whereby they want PT to drop the Russia Collusion Investigation but they will not drop the Flynn case.
Our guys fry and their guys go free.
F that Mr. President.
Appoint Sidney as a Special Prosecutor and have Durham Report to her and let Barr go with Lindsey to their pontificating classes.
The only thing to concentrate on is winning the election. I believe that any remaining swing voters do not care about it, so there is probably no point wasting energy on it. The swing voters will more likely be turned with messages about court packing, violence, China, etc. And most importantly, getting Republican turn out to be as high as possible.
So does this mean these feckless hacks will finally SUPPORT our President, ensure a FAIR election process, and stop fighting the President’s extremely popular MAGA policies? .. Didn’t think so.
The TREASONOUS COUP plotters must be dealt with *before* the election. This disingenuous attempt to diminish the importance of this ONGOING coup, only underscores it’s significance.
Sure, the RINOS and never-Trumpers want us to let this go. I would too if I were a criminal. But just because they’ve had their heads planted firmly up their a$$e$ all these years, doesn’t mean that we “the people” will absolve them of the crime of selling out our country. Hear that, Quid Pro Joe?
This isn’t just about President Trump. It is really about rescuing the free world, and our Constitutional Republic in particular.
Now we SEE what these globalists have been doing to erase the USA and usurp our Constitutional rights.
We cannot UNSEE it now. This is NOT going away now.. we’ve only just BEGUN to fight!
Its a base election i am the base i care. There are no swing voters.
The possible exception is he could swing some black folks off the plantation. When he talks about being falsly accused and railroaded by an out of control judiciary. They here him in away non blacks dont
We want to here what hes going to do to restore the rule of law RINOS dont F them.
We can multi-task and handle multiple issues at once. Yes, PDJT should focus on swing voter issues, just as he’s doing. But, DO NOT let this drop! These dirty crooks need to fry—on both sides. Otherwise we will all lose faith in tour system and it will collapse.
Please, spare us the strategic thinking from spineless RINO jellyfish.
The media doesn’t want to cover the story because they were willing accessories in the treasonous plot. Duh. McCarthy and Lowry are useless idiots.
Ain’t THAT the truth! With friends like these. . . .
A reminder of what happened one of the last times the government covered up misconduct.

the 7 floors below had 29 feet of concrete per wall.
manure and piss did not blow those down and crater the earth.
but it sure did help Bill get re-elected.
Linda – i’m watching your replies – you are smart!
D U M Bs.
Unfortunately yes, this type of horrendous act is exactly where invalidating the votes of every single American citizen will result in.
Bagpipes talks big, but [in]actions speak louder than words. The Spygate co-conspirators are not just walking free, they have million dollar book deals. Justice is clearly seen not to be done.
And Bagpipes cannot claim “we are trying”. Justice delayed is Justice denied. In failing to bring the guilty to justice before the 2020 election cycle, Bagpipes has put the rule of law in the balance. Trump would never lose the election if Bagpipes had just done his job in a reasonable time frame. But he didn’t.
If Trump loses 2020 (possible due to rampant voting fraud), then the rule of law in America ends. And Bagpipes would be directly to blame for that. By delaying and delaying, he denied the President justice.
The hour has grown so late, that there is only one way Bagpipes Barr can recover from his “preserve the institutions” inanity and prevent a second civil war. That is release Judge Rosemary Collyer’s April 2017 FISC report and all Admiral Rogers’ supporting evidence without a single black bar. Not a single retraction for any reason.
But Barr won’t. He’s a fool who doesn’t understand why Spygate is not Watergate or Fast and Furious or Benghazi. Spygate was an attempt to invalidate the votes of every single American citizen now and forever. By refusing to provide the President justice before the 2020 election cycle, Barr has ensured the success of Spygate and broadcast loud and clear to the US citizens that own 300 million firearms, that those who seek to govern them believe the concent of governed citizens is irrelevant.
So, after reading the puke review piece,
These guys are proposing to tell the president how to win elections?
Oh please …
Look, if you don’t think he knows how to win, fine. Just say so. He has a record. I don’t personally care what he campaigns on. Those out of power are beggars and beggars can’t be choosers. Are you a chooser Rich ?
What a joke.
Lowry and McCarthy are now political consultants. After having bulstered who to election ? Obama ?
Waste of space and this is why I donn’t read the national puke review.
Obviously, it goes without saying, it needs no mention, he will do what he thinks is most likely to win.
That’s business 101.
The problem with what these two are doing here is:
A) well it shows they don’t know the above
B) they don’t share the issue importance
C) they may be swamp enemy
Now, in that light … why write this article ? Why pen this tweet ? I mean, so they really want him to win ?
And if so, do they then want to say these things should be exposed … or nah, let bygones be bygones. It’s a really wierd juxtaposition to tell the underdog champion both what to eat and how to chew it.
Used to be a regular NRO reader—before the MAGA era. Now, other than Victor Davis Hanson, NRO is completely DEAD to me. And if McCarthy is onboard with this fuzzy thinking, then he needs to go too. We don’t need another Ryan.
It’s all been said, but put me down for RULE OF LAW.
Only a guilty person would not want justice to prevail.
Former presidents aren’t immune to being prosecuted are they? If not, if Trump were to lose the election isn’t it likely the swamp and DS will go after him and/or his family to, if nothing else, make an example of him so that no outsider ever dares to challenge them again?
Is Trump willing to just let this Spygate stuff sit in the shelf even if it may be the one thing he needs to avoid being defeated and left in peril once he leaves office?
Or is he just so overwhelmingly confident he will win?
Why do you think he left New York ?
Almost everyone got this wrong.
It was obvious. He not dumb.
He had little to work with.
But he can read tea leaves.
The Times cites David Plouffe, an Obama adviser-turned-Silicon Valley lobbyist, urging Democrats to “destroy” Trump and “his kind.”
It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again.
— David Plouffe (@davidplouffe) June 13, 2016
How interesting to read those comments this morning.
Yesterday I heard from two different friends here in northern socialist Minnesota who said they’d been openly, publicly and loudly confronted by those who want to “destroy” us. One was wearing a MAGA hat and was forced out of a local store (by another shopper!), and one was wearing a MAGA mask and a soy boy told them they were “disgusting.”
The store employees didn’t say anything to the jerk who told another customer to leave because the owner is a chicken-afraid-of-his-own-shadow Republican, and the woman who was told she was disgusting just said, “Thank you.”
Destroy Trump supporters? HA! HA!! HA!
Yesterday I was dropping off or installing 8’x4′ Trump signs all over northern socialist Minnesota. 8′ x 4′ signs!
People with businesses were putting them front and center! They were mad at the insanity and said ‘They didn’t care about the leftists.’ They said, ‘This is it, put a sign up and help Trump get elected, or lose our country.’
President Trump will DO what’s necessary to win this election. That’s a given.
Study the man, read his books, watch his old interviews.
He knows and understands the enemy, they haven’t begun to figure him out.
STOP being fearful. Have faith in God AND President Trump.
Put a smile on your face and tell everyone you know that YOU KNOW President Trump will win and they need to do the same.
Go vote, IN PERSON!
On the first Tuesday of November enjoy President Trump’s 37 state, 300 plus Electoral Vote massacre.
Watch the rats scurry. You KNOW President Trump knows it’s THEM or Him AND his family!
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Trump is smarting from personal injury. After re-election he’ll have four years to settle accounts with what is kknown publically and what he knows privately.
For now, just WOW the voters on what he can achieve for them in that time.
He doesn’t have to drop Russiagate, just redirect the emphasis.
My thoughts……….every last person involved should be held accountable. No one is above the law. These people broke many laws trying to frame trump and then have him thrown out of office.
This guy Andrew McCarthy is living in a bubble ,he needs to take his head out of his bubble and see what real Americans think about what these scumbags did.
I don’t give a shit what they think may or may not happened because people who tried to overthrow our government are held accountable. And Clinton needs to be one of the defendants and needs to serve serious prison time. Like anyone else would be doing. Their money and or station in life has no bearing on the matter. In the USA we are all equal under the law. they may get better lawyers but they still end up in the same prison.
Amen, brother. They’re supposed to be here to serve us, not serve themselves and get fat off of our labors. “Scumbags” is right. We have not yet begun to clean house!
I think the Russia disclosures and account ability will lead to much darker disclosures, with which Trump is already familiar. Scalia.
Yea – pool parties are scary.
and it makes complete sense to be worried of a pool and a party, and water, and even double down
these cute fcks ruled the world and knew that any INFO that got outtted, JAMES COMEY would catch them, arrest them, frame them, or kill them.
they ran the world
they only lost to Donald Trump because he out lawyered them and shut the electronic machines down.
I suppose what separates Trump from those that would “. . .accept that others have made up their minds…” and just move on – is why half the nation love this man as President. He is like US. And NO, WE WOULD NOT JUST MOVE ALONG AND LET IT GO. Continue to drag them into the street and give them a beat down. That means fire and replace everyone who gets in the way until you’ve cycled the right people in place to pick the lock, release information, and prosecute. And we’ll get a lot of swamp cleaning down in the interim.
YES! YES! YES! A thousand times, yes!
You ate the whole jackass. Now you’re going to choke on the tail??? ~Unknown old Sicilian
The best IS yet to come!
Oh…., and Hillary’s emails ARE coming.
Andrew McCarthy and Rich Lowry are true elitists. Lowry is among the GOP-e elitist mindset that thinks the middle class just needs to die off. Sure they want this to go away, but if it does we are done as a country because we will have no equal justice under the law. As the Egyptian Pharaoh mocked God and named his own curse so has the elite class.They all need to be brought down under by their own words as their justification for relentlessly trying to taking out President Trump “so no one will ever try this again”.
Andy McCarthy, is a DoJ sycophant, a true believer in Justice…as is IMO, AG William Barr.
When this scandal first broke, Wire Taps on a Presidential candidate and then on the POTUS. When LTG Flynn’s story became evident. When ADFBLie McCabe lied x4. When SA’s Strozk and Pientka allowed a U.S. Four Star General and Combat Veteran, to be Flaked and Ruined. When Jim Comey dared to lie to Congress and write a book about it all. While Obama, Brennan, Clapper and Lynch, tried to hide in the shadows and watch it all happen…
Anyone, who’s ever worked in Law Enforcement, knew this would signal the end of our nation’s belief in the sanctity of the entire, Federal Bureau of Investigation…
Clearly, that is the position we’ve all reached, now 5 years, down the road to the truth. Right now, AG Barr, USA Durham, Andy Mac and many others. Those who know both the truth and the consequences, of this Spygate scam. Are faced with, the executioner’s debt. They now have a decision to make. One they know will end forever, how Americans view our system of Justice…
Quite honestly, they lack the courage of their convictions. Now they’re hoping, that fate will intervene and remove the decision, from their hand…
My fear is, somehow this lack of support for the Defense of the Presidency and our Rule of law. Will be reflected in the lack of support for President TRUMP. Which means tyranny wins and our grandchildren will never see the world we knew…
The longer this prosecution drags on, the more powerful the criminal enterprise behind it grows…
Soon it will be too late to act. Then what?
Rightfield: Thats a deep analysis that rings true. This is the juncture that Russia was in 1917 or China before the Cultural Revolution. In those cases as well, like US today, the Bolsheviks and Chinese Revolutionaries were a relatively small group – a few thousand – but they managed to take control of massive countries for decades running them into the ground.
In my gut I feel America is a “lucky” nation – we often skate to the edge of the abyss but then miraculously sprout wings .
This stuff is deep and dark and I bet we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. All we can do is vote and pray for the best.
Then we die fighting.
I am OK with this.
The choice is yours
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This war is for our kids, our grandchildren and and great-grandchildren. No Justice,
No Peace. The coup perpetrators must face accountability & justice…and I am talking about gallows-type justice on the Washington mall. If America does not have a system of law & order that we can trust, then we will be in a bad spot…which is where we currently reside. The Tree of Liberty must be pruned of those ‘socialist’ twigs that have been allowed to grow in our government. The federal government is way too unwieldy and much too far leftist progressive Marxist in ideology. It must be whittled down…way down.
Only then, after justice is meted out to the coup conspirators; and the federal bureaucracy is shrunk; and the progressive rot is cleaned out of the DOJ, FBI, CIA & federal judiciary can Americans begin to have any semblance of faith in our institutions. WeKnow!!!
Frankly I could give two damns what Andy McCarthy and Rich Lowery think.
My tax dollars paid for the made up bullsh*t investigation of Russian Collusion Hoax started by Crooked Hillary, and enabled by a equally crooked, corrupt, Dept. of Justice, FBI and Intelligence agencies, whose salaries I also pay for with my tax dollars.
So yes, I very much care that corrupt individuals, working for the US government, whose salaries and benefits I help pay for, tried to remove a President that I voted for and support today.
I don’t want a corrupt government, nor do I want to fund corruption with my hard earned tax dollars.
I don’t intend to worry that every time I help elect someone to office, some elitist asshole in one of the corrupt departments of the US government will attempt to remove them from office because they think they know better than I do about who should be running the country!!!!
Whether Rich and Andy think this is an issue that voters don’t care about, just proves what out of touch elitist asses they are! Maybe we should investigate them with the full boot of the US government on their throats, with some made up phony charges, while they lose their homes, jobs,reputations, while their families are trashed,and they are personally destroyed and trashed by the media daily, exactly what happened to General Flynn and President Donald J Trump……
I bet they would care then!!!!!
So, YES I CARE!!! And not only do I care, but I want people exposed, charged and convicted for being the corrupt bastards they are. I’d already be sitting in jail if I did what employees of the US government did. I want some damn justice!
Instead, all we’ve gotten so far, is these same people who committed crimes, going on TV shows spouting more lies, padding their dirty pockets some more, and smirking at the people they framed and the people that voted for them!!
I WANT JUSTICE!!!! I WANT TRUTH!!! I WANT TRANSPARENCY!! I WANT THE RULE OF LAW!!!!
Orange jumpsuits all around! It can’t happen soon enough!
(And they would do far worse to us.)
Yes they would!! President Trump promised to drain the Swamp. People chanted this at every rally in 2016.
While I understand that there are a lot of people who haven’t followed this and don’t know all the details, even the most uninformed, low information voter understands corruption in our government and institutions will kill this country as fast as AOC, Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden would!
If anyone here thinks that Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, James Comey or John Brennan would not have removed President Trump if they could have, then they don’t understand why THIS COUP cannot go unpunished.
It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again.
— David Plouffe (@davidplouffe) June 13, 2016
YES to all of the above!
Honoring the rule of law is not optional. Ignoring crimes is the leftist’s way. Our Republic can’t exist without law and order.
Do NOT enable these criminals within our government to continue to destroy our rule of law – they must be held accountable for their illegal actions and be brought to justice. They will not just go away, they will not stop until they are in prison or dead.
Those that live and conspire in the swamp ignored all that is good. They chose to associate themselves with the ways of tyrants, thieves, and pond scum.
To ignore their evil plans will forge an unfathomable future.
President Trump is leading us to victory. God is ” leading us not into temptation, but delivering us from evil”.
We all must pray, keep our faith, compassion and yearning to be free.
Part 2 of President Trump’s presidency will surely be one of God’s greatest gifts.
God Bless President Trump, Sundance, All Treepers and Patriots ?????
Two more bureaucrats add to the enemy list.
The voters & tax payers have the right to know the truth.
Voters have the right for justice & retribution.
Haven’t paid any attention to wimpy Lowry or smooth talking McCarthy for a long time.
Patriots will fight to the last breath … of the Democrat scum. Never give an inch and show no mercy. One way or another, the day of reckoning is near.
No justice, no country.
I don’t give a rat’s ass what the “Beltway” thinks, and who the hell are they to talk about letting the side down? They just want a cease-fire until they can finish getting rid of the new Sheriff!
War!
RussiaGate certainly should not be dropped, but I don’t think it’s an effective campaign message at this point. President Trump has amazing political instincts that I’m not qualified to question, but the only chance that we have to see justice served is if he wins.
If I were his strategist, I’d use every minute of the last 30 days sharing the differences that Americans will see in their lives during a Biden presidency versus a Trump presidency. Unfortunately, at the end of the day, that’s all that most people care about.
Let’s face it……there are alot of voting Americans that are mich more interested in watching Tik Tok videos that engaging in the prosperity and survival of our great nation.
Taxes, Economic Prosperity, Rule of Law, National Security (we haven’t had ONE terrorist attack since President Trump took offense), and retention of of our freedoms and liberties would be my focus. Tell the 56% of people who belive that they are better off today than 4 years ago what they will LOSE is Biden wins. Simple strategy that I think would be very effective. The fear of loss is VERY powerful.
Just my .02, but I think this is what the average Joe and Juile care about, and what will potentially swing those sitting on the fence in his direction.
“We caught them all” … then f’ing prosecute them all! If you dont they will never stop. You think the last 4 years have been bad for you Mr President – just wait – they will ruin your family, your business, and anyone you touch. Plus its the right thing to do … the Constitution, We The People, demand that you do.
Have we learned NOTHING from the events of 2020?! They will not stop! Not ever! Businesses crushed, families in crisis, lives ruined. People dead. All for political theater.
We are nothing to them but obstacles on their road to power over us all.
Unfortunately, my thoughts are that nothing will happen before this upcoming election other than smoke and mirrors. The upside is that I anxiously await the re-election of President Trump, and therefore, among other wonderful things that are to come, there will be justice served in a way that NO ONE other than his supporters expected to happen. And it will be deservedly so! And then, 4 more years of chasing the guttersnipes out of the basement of hell in which they reside! It’s time for goodness and Godliness, not evilness, and I anxiously await those winds of change! They ARE a comin’!!! 😉
Mr. President. Drain The Swamp! Keep the promise. We are giving you 4 more years. We have had enough.
A body of men holding themselves accountable to nobody ought not to be trusted by anybody.
Thomas Paine
At the dawn of his administration, President Obama opined: ‘A democracy requires accountability, and accountability requires transparency.’ Magical rays of white-hot sunlight emanated from his media-manufactured halo. And then bureaucratically engineered darkness settled over the land.
Michelle Malkin
“Trust is equal parts character and competence… You can look at any leadership failure, and it’s always a failure of one or the other.”
― Stephen M.R. Covey, The Speed of Trust: The One Thing that Changes
“There is one thing that is common to every individual, relationship, team, family, organization, nation, economy, and civilization throughout the world—one thing which, if removed, will destroy the most powerful government, the most successful business, the most thriving economy, the most influential leadership, the greatest friendship, the strongest character, the deepest love. On the other hand, if developed and leveraged, that one thing has the potential to create unparalleled success and prosperity in every dimension of life. Yet, it is the least understood, most neglected, and most underestimated possibility of our time. That one thing is trust.”
― Stephen M.R. Covey, The SPEED of Trust: The One Thing that Changes Everything
Seems to me the target is about to be hit. The left is so predictable.
This is why we have to have accountability:
“Low trust causes friction, whether it is caused by unethical behavior or by ethical but incompetent behavior (because even good intentions can never take the place of bad judgment). Low trust is the greatest cost in life and in organizations, including families. Low trust creates hidden agendas, politics, interpersonal conflict, interdepartmental rivalries, win-lose thinking, defensive and protective communication—all of which reduce the speed of trust. Low trust slows everything—every decision, every communication, and every relationship.”
― Stephen M.R. Covey, The SPEED of Trust: The One Thing that Changes Everything
Today I heard PT at the rally at the WH say that we have to stop Communism. That caught my attention. He needs to go that route and start off saying we need to stop Communism and then ask the crowd if they want to learn more about Communism. This caused me to stop and listen today.
One of the unusual, amazing attributes of DJT is he lack of passion for retribution and vengeance. You see him annoyed about all this stuff , but not mad-as-hell.
He is laser focused on winning the election, so he can raise the prosperity of us Americans. Period.
Truly amazing to watch and take personal lessons from. I have learned a lot. Not to get frothing mad at all these unfair accusations, or apoplectic about the rampant corruption. Just focus on the main goal – get re-elected so you can raise the prosperity of America.
He is a master strategist though. Its about having leverage – and keep on increasing leverage , until you get what you want. You lose leverage if you lose your cool, and go on a Rambo-fest. A good old fashioned Rambo like administration of frontier justice may feel good – but rarely accomplishes the goal.
I was caught in their (DC republican experts) good cop/bad cop routine my whole life. Their part in their UNIPARTY Ideology. I couldn’t believe we lost in 2008. Even less that we could have lost in the 2012 Election, the 100 year Anniversary of the Epic 1912 loss. There are no Republican or Democrat politicians I’m willing to entrust my life or my country to, nor my principles. As far as I’m concerned, the American Civil War started in 1844 and is what we are fighting today. If the use of the NSA data-capture is not worth ….then what was the SC Chief Justice Blackmailed with to change his decision, why did the republican ‘loser’ of the 2008 election go out of his way to weaponize the IRS against American Citizens? Not to mention the NSA.
Where is there a sufficient Deterrent to the myriad crimes of the Uniparty?
“The ability to establish, grow, extend, and restore trust with all stakeholders—customers, business partners, investors, and coworkers—is the key leadership competency of the new global economy.”
― Stephen M.R. Covey, The SPEED of Trust: The One Thing that Changes Everything
“THE HIDDEN VARIABLE One time I hired a guide to take me fly fishing in Montana. As I looked out over the river, he said, “Tell me what you see.” Basically I told him I saw a beautiful river with the sun reflecting off the surface of the water. He asked, “Do you see any fish?” I replied that I did not. Then my guide handed me a pair of polarized sunglasses. “Put these on,” he said.
“Suddenly everything looked dramatically different. As I looked at the river, I discovered I could see through the water. And I could see fish—a lot of fish! My excitement shot up. Suddenly I could sense enormous possibility that I hadn’t seen before. In reality, those fish were there all along, but until I put on the glasses, they were hidden from my view. In the same way, for most people, trust is hidden from view. They have no idea how present and pervasive the impact of trust is in every relationship, in every organization, in every interaction, in every moment of life. But once they put on “trust glasses” and see what’s going on under the surface, it immediately impacts their ability to increase their effectiveness in every dimension of life.”
― Stephen M.R. Covey, The SPEED of Trust: The One Thing that Changes Everything
At the core, we have already lost faith and trust in our Federal Government Apparatus and people, and need it to be restored.
Riddle me this: How can you not address this coup attempt when the person you are running against for reelection took part in the plot? He was in the January 5 meeting in the WH where the decision was made to frame General Flynn. He sat silently by while you went through the Russia hoax, the Mueller investigation, and impeachment. In fact, the impeachment was based on comments made to the Ukrainian President about your opponent and his son. Ciaramella, the not so secret whistleblower, was closely linked to your opponent.
This isn’t even a close call. Set aside the significance of the massive damage to our institutions. Trump would be committing political malpractice if he didn’t use Biden’s connections to the ongoing coup. Biden’s election is part of the coup and the cover-up. The only way the truth is going to come out is if Trump wins reelection. Winning isn’t everything, it is the only thing.
Sundance, you asked for personal perspective. So don’t shoot me down for my thoughts.
While the Russiagate issue is important to me, I’m an an anomaly. I eat this sh!t up. Even so, I can’t keep up with the details. It’s a full-time job…and I already have a real job which wears me out.
Consider those less dedicated, and it’s clear that this is too complicated. It is NOT an issue for the average voter. They don’t begin to understand.
It is what it is.
Easy: Joe Biden took part in a coup attempt against the president, and now he’s pretending to run for President, while paired with a woman who is ineligible to replace him, chosen for him by global financiers, politicos and cartels.
Easy, how? Exactly how do you expect this simplistic info to be disseminated to the general public?
‘Cuz it sure ain’t in the nooz they’re getting.
Yes. I bet 99% of the public has no clue about any of this stuff, and still believe there is some funny business going on between DJT and Putin. Such is the power of cable TV.
The reason DJT is successful is he sees clearly . The vast majority of the population knows nothing about spygate etc – absolutely nothing. And it will be an uphill battle to educate them – if trhats even possible.
All he can do to help is get re-elected and keep pushing for prosperity.
It is complicated – and some people cannot keep up with the details – but half of the country knows that crimes were committed and believe people should be held accountable even if they don’t have the time to focus on the nitty-gritty.
I think a portion (not half of the country, as you said) of the voters suspect something nefarious. But they don’t really have a clue.
Russia-gate needs to be kept on the burner, but there are bigger pots to fry at the moment. Let’s keep pushing the issue, but focus on known winners – like economy and nat’l security,
When do the hanging start for treason and sedition?
I highly recommend the Tudors series. Plenty of beheadings and other more exotic forms of punishment. Henty VIII was quite a stud.
England dropped their “Drawn and Quartered” punishment for treason in the 1870’s, but it was rumored they only used it on live prisoners in the Twelfth Century. Replacing horses with cars or motorcycles, the ISIS Caliphate used it in the twenty-first century during the previous administration. on live prisoners.
aaah – nice to meet a fellow fan . I believe it was hanged until half dead, then dragged by carriage to xxx, where he would be drawn and quartered and his privvys cut off and burned before him. Then boiled in oil… I think.
Refreshing stuff.
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. – Thomas Paine
I’m like most here at CTH in that I believe in the rule of law and think this should not be ignored or swept under the rug. However, those inside the beltway will control the narrative if they’re allowed to do so. And unfortunately they have the power to do so unless the public takes a stand. But the only stand they will hear is if they voters replace most of them. And unfortunately it’s too late for much change to really occur in this election. If we really want change, we must start immediately after an election in working towards the next election 2 years down the road. The only problem with that is that things have fallen so far that we may never really have that opportunity again. The voters have wasted their chance every election cycle for generations and allowed this to grow into the mess it now is.
The narrative is hard to control for the old hands and old crones, like Hillary. There are newer narrative creators like Trump, and the rest of us.
I watched The Plot Against the President, based on Lee Smith’s book. EXCELLENT. I watched it on Vimeo since it was a site I’ve trusted site.
To the weak-willed DC’ers
Thomas Paine’s words apply today:
“There are persons, too, who see not the full extent of the evil which threatens them; they solace themselves with hopes that the enemy, if he succeed, will be merciful. It is the madness of folly, to expect mercy from those who have refused to do justice; and even mercy, where conquest is the object, is only a trick of war; the cunning of the fox is as murderous as the violence of the wolf, and we ought to guard equally against both.”
They all think that if they drag it out for as long as possible, we will forget. Or, they are counting on a Biden win so they can bury it forever. Good luck with that.
We have an election to win first but we will not forget. And we will not allow it to be buried.
God, thank you for not placing me in the cesspool that is Washington DC. Amen
Well, I just go back to the rule of law. This Thursday, I was lucky enough to find and watch the original version of “12 Angry Men”, it was a 59-minute teleplay broadcast in 1954. No, Henry Fonda wasn’t in it. In that kinescope, Juror No. 8 takes his own sweet time, he methodically enrages every one in the room, and then they vote together. Mr. John Durham is apparently focused on getting and then winning indictments. I don’t think these indictments matter one whit as far as PDJT’s pending landslide is concerned. People are either going to vote for him, or commit American hari-kari and they deserve what they get. I don’t think Americans are suicidal. But the law must ring true, however long that takes. Mr. John Durham has to get his indictments first. I want him to win his indictments — every single one.
Sure, Trump can let that topic go for now and concentrate on getting reelected. On Nov 4th bring up the subject again.
Even if no one goes to jail, people still want to know and they have a right to know.
So he drops his campaign promise to restore and maintain law and order?
I think not.
Regardless of the Russiagate plot being far more complex than Twitter videos of Antifa/ Black Lies Matter fascists destroying, burning, looting, beating, and murdering…..it is still equally as criminal, perpetrated by treacherous traitors posing as constitutionally loyal federal employees and their carefully selected contractors.
Their crimes must be addressed in parallel to the street crimes being perpetrated by violent thugs and by Leftwing-indoctrinated, the disaffected, emotionally stunted immature adults.
I don’t mean drop the subject, just not focus on that until after the election. We’re not going to let this go away but we have to get Trump reelected.
… How does the office of a U.S. president; and more importantly the republic itself; survive a coordinated coup effort involving all three branches of government; while simultaneously those in charge of exposing the corruption fear the scale is too damaging for them to reveal?
WE can handle this and what, NO law and order????
Sundance, my opinion…NO, NO and NO.
Isn’t Andy McCarthy an original never-trumper, former FBI? Enough said.
The ONLY reason the beltway traitors would want this to go away is because We The People KNOW they were involved in the coup from the beginning. This isn’t just a Hilary Clinton/Obama/Biden/Brennan/Comey crime, it’s a massive crime which included many of the highest-ranking members of the U.S Congress, whose salaries, benefits and pensions are paid for by YOU and ME!!
We The People want answers and indictments. If no one is in jail after this, it will happen again. and again. and again.
Priorities…WIN the election. Clean house, starting with Wray, Haspel, Barr, Esper, Milley, Redfield, etc. Open up the country. Restore the American people’s faith in our government (HUGE task – not sure it can be done at this point). and my list could go on but I believe PDJT knows what he has to do.
N.T.PA – your comment on Andrew McCarthy made me wonder, so I checked. And I am shocked. McCarthy was the SDNY prosecutor who solidly put away the 1993 Twin Towers Islamic bombers, I thought he was a solid guy. He is a mixed bag.
1. He was a “National Review” never-Trumper.
2. He still does not get it – McCarthy does not get it that this is another Flight 93 Election. McCarthy still makes noises about “principled conservatism” yada yada. McCarthy has hinted he might vote democrat in 2020. https://theweek.com/speedreads/859174/trump-recommends-andrew-mccarthys-book–right-after-conservative-says-might-vote-democratic-2020
3. on the good side, McCarthy wrote a worthy book on the scheme to frame Gen. Flynn, and McCarthy is on the right side of that. See the article linked above.
In conclusion, Andrew McCarthy is a sort of fence-sitter who COULD be a great help but he doesn’t “get it” that the hour is late.
McCarthy doesn’t “get it” that we have survived many defeats, but we also survived our winter camped at Valley Forge and have organized our forces – both Officers and the Rank & File – to FINALLY now go on the offensive.
This. Right now I am just terrified of that corrupt wh0re socialist getting into the office and destroying the last 4 years of prosperity and security we’ve enjoyed.
Win the election, even if it means putting things that matter (and believe me, this REALLY does, I am so beyond sick of there being no arrests at all) on the back burner. It’s only a few more weeks.
Once he wins re-election, take the gloves off and send these bastards to jail finally.
Oh we know he will. Replace Barr if he has to.
Agreed. Carry through with it, but don’t overdo it. Let the facts speak for themselves without the hysterical railing of the Hannity types. And plenty of time to let it run its course after the election. It is completely egregious and disastrous, but if his own DOJ doesn’t bring charges for anyone or just low-level types, I think it’d be smarter to let history tell the story via a spate of books by good people, etc.
I am absolutely furious! I just copied and pasted Sundance’s comment to “Andy” McCarthy’s Twitter. I do not understand an attitude of “it’s just too hard and too much to think about so let’s forget it happened”. Are you kidding me?? NO! No no and no.
I’m glad you did that Aunt Clara. My hope is Andy McCarthy was perhaps being sardonic because I know that as a former US Attorney he was furious about the criminal conduct and attack on the presidency. I haven’t read his book but did read most of his columns about Russiagate and no one analized the legalities better than he did. I’d like to think he isn’t under pressure to back off an issue he clearly feels very strong about. He is right to a large extent that America doesn’t care enough because given all the evidence revealed, I thought there would be a larger public outcry long ago.The MSM is at fault of course but anyone who is curious can find the truth.
I am absolutely furious! I just copied and pasted Sundance’s comment to “Andy” McCarthy’s Twitter. I do not understand an attitude of “it’s just too hard and too much to think about so let’s forget it happened”. Are you kidding me?? NO! No no and no.
It’s pretty simple: the enemy’s spies that lurk in our own camp don’t propose a ceasefire because we are losing. They propose it because we are winning.
Donald Trump had received more than 59,400,000 votes in 2016.
For many of those people, it matters very much that the people in the US government. who tried to remove him from office, block his agenda of America First and expose the corruption that has overtaken our institutions!
To allow this to go without consequences, will insure that that same corruption continues!
Rush Limbaugh said it best. The GOP has never understood how to fight. They are more comfortable being the opposition, then they don’t have to accept any responsibility for actually governing.
While this cannot be the only issue PDJT emphasizes before the election, we would be rewarding the corruption and destruction of this country if we allow this to go unpunished.
A lesson will be repeated until it’s learned, as my grandfather used to say. When people don’t suffer the consequences for their behavior, they tend to continue said behavior…just my opinion.
They’d have been fine with the coup had it succeeded. It didn’t, so their position is “no harm, no foul”.
Winning or not we should continue to blast them with the primary weapon that strikes fear in the hearts of traitors: Groups of American citizens every peacefully protesting in large groups, small groups or alone with Old Glory held high. The flag and ordinary people standing up for liberty and freedom both scares and demoralizes leftists trying to destroy our republic. Remind them they owe their life, prosperity and anything they achieve or will achieve to that flag and their forebears who built this country and fought for it. We all walk on the bones of patriots.
I know Americans are overwhelmingly generous and decent people and it’s that decency and honesty that the left exploits, but we won’t be incited by folks who were denied a proper education or took the wrong road. America is an exceptional nation and people in places like Hong, China, Cuba, Russia and any despotic or lawless country look to us as a beacon of hope and what is possible when free people decide their own destiny. We can’t take that hope away from so many.
I for one think whoever these mentally challenged pundits are advising the President and the American people to “JUST GIVE IT UP ALREADY” are obviously not walking in our moccasins.
Obviously are Have NO IDEA about the ANGER their incessant lying, thieving, and subversion has caused in ME let alone all of other humans who have a brain. Give it UP? Are you kidding me?
SHEEP are kind animals. Humans are not SHEEP. We are of an entirely different species.
And @BlindNoLonger, and @ZephyrBreeze, we are on the same page.
Yea, sure pundits. I am supposed to suddenly develop AMNESIA over EVERYTHING. Let it go, let it be. Accept it all like something you put in a dustpan.
In your dreams morons.
Those proposing this have identified themselves as part of the uniparty bent on maintaining the status quo in my book. Until our justice, investigative, and intelligence services are set right, this Republic will be on a path to dissolution.
The ONLY way to set things back on the right path is to show that there are severe consequences for treasonous or seditious acts. The codes of conduct and laws MUST be upheld or they are meaningless and we become a lawless society. .
It’s very simple really – Would Obama or #Crooked let their opponents off if the situations were reversed?
We all know how that would play out.
Just look at what they have done to Trump and also the American people. Riots in the street by Dem thugs, businesses gone, families and friends turning on each other, Race relations turned back years and no investigations into the Dems and all of our tax $$ wasted on the Russian hoax and everything else they have accused Trump of. There is no more Dem party.