I guess its too late for Trump to pretend to let it go until after the election?

So if you don’t like the government, you can just launch a coup d’etat. Sounds like Bolivia to me.

EFF RICH KAREN AND EFF KAREN MCCARTHY.

The rule of law is a farce without justice. The beltway’s preference is irrelevant.

Um, no Andy. The informed conservative electorate want scalps. We want orange jumpsuits. Don’t project your ostrich tendencies on us…WE WANT JUSTICE. And we want it NOW.

No citations, but I do recall when President Trump first began his campaign, I got the impression he used the crowd response during his rallies to different speaking topics as a gauge in order to map out what points of his platform he’d emphasize the most.

Paradoxically, the issue of Hillary’s corruption, I recall, garnered great enthusiasm. We all remember this I’m sure. Yet at the same time, whenever he brought up the issue of “donors” controlling both parties, the reaction was not nearly as fervent – much less than the enthusiasm for “locking” Hillary up, or immigration, for example.

It’s a paradox because the issue of “donors” controlling both parties, and Hillary’s corruption, are really two sides of the same coin, yet many even well-meaning patriots unfortunately do not see this. When they see Graham or McConnell on TV they incorrectly see politicians who are trying to balance self-interest with the good of the country. They do not understand they are purely self-interested traitors, trying to balance blood-sucking from their host with preventing the host from noticing and removing them.

Pure speculation, but I think President Trump gauged the public’s level of understanding, and deemed it not worthwhile to pursue the Uniparty issue further. I think this decision was made long ago, even in 2015, and came to light with his victory speech after the election about “unifying”.

So here we are today, when, I think, most people don’t understand the scale and scope of corruption within our government. My opinion is most people, with the China virus and propaganda campaign meant to destroy our spirit, don’t care about Obama’s spying/Mueller’s SC at this moment, but simply because they don’t see how much it matters. It’s a fight that’s probably necessary, and perhaps after it is begun and the scope of corruption is brought to light, most good-intentioned but less informed patriots will see that the fight was necessary. In any case, I don’t think there’s anything to lose, and it’s a fight that should happen.

Didn’t someone say they have found Hillary’s emails? If that is true It’s funny Republicans want President Trump to stop talking about Russia gate right now. I wonder if there are any Republicans who sent emails to Hillary’s server and if so I wonder what was said.

I just think back to the Church Committee – the fall out of which was Director Turner – 800 fired decapitating CIA leadership and many many fired at FBI as well. DC needs a double flush . . . again. And the powerful message those firing sent again to the 3 letter agencies again – STAY OUT OF POLITICS. IMHO all roads lead in the end to the Senate and the leader of the Senate, there is plenty of power to do what is needed, but the senate does not have the will. And man-o-man what a turd did Rubio turn out to be all along. Just another self enriching empty shirt.

If McCarthy had been there in 1860, he would have said Abraham Lincoln should just drop the slavery matter as it just didn’t matter to most people like it did to him.

“is factually a very wide-spread opinion within the DC beltway”

Does the opinion of the swamp matter to you? All the more reason to keep hammer on their unpunished crimes forever.

Prosecute them fully and completely. Go through every single person involved, including those who knew about it and helped cover it up. Prosecute people throughout all three branches of government. Prosecute the press that were involved.

You have to make people accountable or they’ll just do it again and again. If no one goes to jail, nothing changes. I have watched and researched throughout the years. I’ve worked for the gov’t. The only conclusion I came to, no matter how much I wanted something different, was that the Republic was dying. The only question unanswered was if it was beyond the point of saving. With Obama, I was leaning towards no. With Trump, I think we’ve put things on a temporary hold but the question is still unanswered.

Make no mistake, there are no doubts. The Republic is dying. We have hope with President Trump (and some in the administration) and another 4 years may just give us enough to bring the Republic back. But, we must have prosecutions of those responsible for the coup attempt. Must. To let it go is to let the Republic slide further down. You cannot let an attempted coup by all three branches and the press just slip away quietly. The threat is real and to ignore it or forget it is to imperil all of us. They certainly haven’t stopped planning on bringing down the Republic.

Well Mr. McCarthy, I care.

Crimes were committed and if Mr. Durham’s probe has found so much corruption that it’s expanded from Russiagate to Clinton emails and on to the Clinton Foundation, then I can wait for solid indictments, even if presented as a Christmas present to the American people.

Or, as the skeptic in me screams it’s being held until after the election, then let the indictments begin shortly thereafter on a rolling basis, leaving the progressives in a state of shock.

So, yes Mr. McCarthy, I give a flying rat’s ass and want the criminals nailed but good.

HOW CAN THIS BE IGNORED???

Honestly. Everyone is just ready to see arrests. There are a lot of us that know and everyone is just getting more and more desensitized to new information because we were bought in a long time ago.

For the love of God arrest some one already. The baby is ugly, we get it. We are tired of looking at it now, put people in jail so we can move on.

People do care. A lot. But remember, cold anger only gets colder. Start arresting some people and maybe those polls that mean nothing about the human psyche will actually show life again. The only people that will be surprised are the ones who have been living in the CNN version of reality.

Thats my 2 cents…. the polls and ecen conservative opinion writers telling me what I think is really starting to piss me off.

What is more damning is NOT prosecuting the corruption that has been revealed. The hour grows late, as intended, and the election draws very near. Pragmatically, what can/will anything be done at this point, particularly when AG Barr has deserted his post? The most important battle to win now is the election. Afterwards, wholesale house cleaning in every DC bureaucracy.

The failure by the “Justice” department is not an October surprise.

The SWAMO RATTLESNAKES still doesn’t know what hit them.
Trump will never take their advice.
He told by RODENTSTEIN to mold back while the Mueller’s-liar coverup was going on., & look what happened…zero zilch nada.
It was Trump who succeeded .
They all failed & will continue unless they tie themselves to his tailcoat.

This “Back off” was a Direct message sent from Barr aka Robert “coverup“ Johnson,

Trump has learned:
“You knew I was a snake when you brought me in”….

What “Beltway Republicans”? The establishment Uniparty RINOs that Lowry and McCarthy hang out with? What rubbish…

Pull your socks up, guys. Surely all the Wolverines haven’t been killed off by the arrows in Prancy Nancy’s quiver… What happened to Sundance’s admonition “No Eeyores”?

I care about it and I want to see people tried and put to death…I know it is an extreme view, but violence is the only way to solve this problem.

McCarthy is correct because of HOW a majority of the mass media has presented ObamaGate to the public – it’s a Hillary campaign “political trick” that fooled a few people in the FBI into opening an investigation, “ahhhh shucks Russian disinformation got us, sorry about that – won’t happen again!”.

Indictments are indeed useless before the election, they will actually provide ammo to Biden/Harris who will declare them political hits and announce if elected will be dropped and a special counsel into the Trump DOJ will be announced on day one of their administration, the left love this kind of stuff so I’d avoid indictments before the election. (guilty pleas are a different kettle of fish)

The best play for POTUS now would be to publish more unmaskings by the Obama Admin – particularly family members and OTHER members of congress, other candidates for President etc. (if there is evidence of Bernie Sanders being unmasked, that would be superb) This kind of material is easy to present and absorb and even the far lefty rags would headline it.

For readers of your site obviously there’s a plethora of material we would like to see, for me the thing I’d like to see most is the name of the private contractors who accessed the NSA database and did all the illegal searching – it’s been years now and we still don’t know, completely unacceptable.

God help the beltway morons who think that kind of message won’t provoke us tax paying, law abiding Americans even further. The bubble living DC types really do look down on the rest of the country.

“… How does the office of a U.S. president; and more importantly the republic itself; survive a coordinated coup effort involving all three branches of government; while simultaneously those in charge of exposing the corruption fear the scale is too damaging for them to reveal?”

Such A republic does not survive unless the rule of law is restored. The scale of damage that happens as A result of ignoring the rule of law will utterly destroy said republic.

I read that tweet earlier. I told Andy I care.
I think Andy and Rich have Republican friends who are in danger of exposure who may not get re-elected if the whole story comes in full view. Like Miss Lindsey. He was definitely involved. He hasn’t been helpful and if South Carolinians discover the depth of the tyranny, he might be left behind.
If PDJT is re-elected but loses the Senate, life will be worse for everyone. Lindsey, Susan Collins and Martha McSally are all in trouble. Tommy will win in Alabama though so maybe all is not lost.
I’m praying to keep the Senate, regain the House and keep PDJT in office but I can see the daylight exposing fake Republicans whose re-elections might be endangered by exposure of their traitorous behavior and its too late to primary any of them.

Russiagate amounts to him defending himself, and his agenda, against his spare no effort nor ethics opponents.
Its not the same thing as solving Americans’ existing problems. And that’s what THEY care about. My take is that there’s no way “they” should be allowed to get away with it if we don’t want it to happen again. But to my way of thinking, that means get to the root source of the malfeasance, and don’t lay it all at the feet of Clinesmith. Its Brennan and Obama and Comey, if you want to send a message to the future.
But to SOLVE our real problems, reinstate the Fairness Doctrine so the country gets both sides or none at all. Implement Justice Reform (six AGs, not one gatekeeper that protects its own), reinvigorate small biz with tax waivers (under five employees AND under $1m annual rev); implement health care cost reforms (not just meds, but real reform by removing antitrust exemptions, and splitting insurance coverage along lines of scheduled care vs emergency vs preventive … see Oklahoma Surgery Center for a model.). Sunset laws … ALL legislation sunsets, based on margin of passage (narrow passage means sunset comes quickly). Term limits. Repeal of Patriot Act, Reverse Citizens United. ALL laws apply to Congress too. Strengthen whistleblower protections (a lot!) …. and ultimately, end elastic “money” (boundless credit).

Trump’s base….The People who want and love our Constitution ..
voted for Trump to drain the swamp…Drain it completely!

Of course the “establishment” wants it to go away: they’re all in on it, but, hey, let’s just forget about it and move on, eh.

Also shows me they know the President will be re-elected. Why bother with “Russia-gate when you won and won re-election: “let’s concentrate on getting your agenda through, wink wink wink”

Didn’t someone say they have found some of Hillary’s emails? If that is true It’s funny Republicans want President Trump to stop talking about Russia gate right now. I wonder if there are any Republicans who sent emails that ended up stored on Hillary’s server. If so I wonder what was said.

Brun them all Down and let the chips fall were they may. Then rebuild to a more perfect republic. Sounds good to me will take time but will be better in the end. JMHO

My opinion from the get-go has been that everyone who was in on it must be held legally accountable to the fullest extent of the law up to include the former President of the U. S.. It must be done or else they will continue engage in that nefarious activities. Equal Justice.

My post today on P/T.

MaineCoon says:
October 10, 2020 at 10:16 am

This is the issue in a nutshell.

Sundance’s tweet:

How does the office of a U.S. president; and more importantly the republic itself; survive a coordinated coup effort involving all three branches of government; while simultaneously those in charge of exposing the corruption fear the scale is too damaging for them to reveal?

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Drop it? Hell, no! President Trump should order strike teams of approx. 5 people for each team, who should descend onto each obstructive division, FBI, CIA, State Dept. etc.first thing Monday morning. Have Grennell assist and oversee that President Trump’s orders are fully complied with by immediately seizing carton after carton of the thousands of pages of documentary evidence. I’d have some law enforcement folks there as back-up. Wray refuses, arrest him on the spot.

Dear Beltway Republicans – get over yourselves. We voted for Trump and we’ll vote for him again. You all? Not so much. Russiagate is the biggest scandal in American history and if you were involved, and we know many of you were/are, then your political careers are over. Accept it and move on. We CARE and we want JUSTICE. What you have done to our President is beyond the pale, over the top, unheard of… dare I say… CRIMINAL. Trying to sweep it under the rug only shows your true colors. WE ARE AWAKE and WE ARE WATCHING YOU and WE WILL NEVER FORGET.

I TOTALLY AGREE SD! This is the worst threat to our nation in its history in terms of undermining the “rule of law” (a phrase and principle that is a bedrock of our nation but now has become a laughingstock sadly honored only in the breach).

If those involved in this coup are not brought to REAL justice.

This necessarily means that at a minimum, ALL, no matter their”station,” must be aggressively and seriously prosecuted in courts that are actually neutral—NOT in the distinct courts of DC where juries will nullify all of the compelling evidence of guilt for those involved in the coup.

If this is not done, IMHO, we will be in the death throes of the Republic, regardless of the outcome of the election. For the nation—-NOT merely Trump as this issue is being falsely framed—to fail to protect itself from such a cancer, is to mean its ruin.

My opinion is that your average Joe Moron Voter doesn’t care and it’s too complicated for them. Half the brain dead population has no idea who McCabe is or Strozk or the rest of them. Or what the 3 branches of government are. For Trump every minute for the next 3 weeks is about return on investment. All of us are going to vote for him regardless. He needs to focus on Priority One, re-election. The reality is that every minute spent on this issue is a minute he is not going to get back between now and Nov 3. Do a Rose Garden video everyday targeting an issue or group. Pound the liberty vs tyranny message. Pound Harris some.

After reelection come back to Russiagate with a new fire breathing Attorney General. Get revenge then

Are we a country of laws and equal justice or aren’t we? Moving on means that the US officially has unequal and capricious justice. We must not accept this. We need accountability. We should have had it long ago. It’s the fault of Beltway Republicans that this old story hasn’t been addressed yet.

Are we a country of laws and equal justice or aren’t we? Moving on means that the US officially has unequal and capricious justice. We must not accept this. We need accountability. We should have had it long ago. It’s the fault of Beltway Republicans that this old story hasn’t been addressed yet.

Hey Andy and Rich — how would YOU feel if it was you? And what about justice? This crap was NOT OK.. And the only way to ensure it doesn’t recur is to shine a huge flashlight on ALL of it, and send some Guilty Parties to Gitmo.

Finally , I’d be suspicious that somebody is whispering in their ear to come up with this line ( especially after Rush’ s show with an angry President.). Is someone ( Mitch ? Whomever) afraid VSGT is rocking the boat too much , and “everybody” could get wet ,so try some friendly advice to have him ease up on this . etc suspicious

The National Review crowd and the Ben Shapiro wing of the “right” are every bit the detriment to Donald Trump and the MAGA movement as the left is.

My response is go read Patrick Byrne’s most recent chapter: https://www.deepcapture.com/2020/10/finale-the-deep-states-hillary-clinton-bribery-blackmail-sting-the-maria-butina-rape-murder-gambit/
In it he claims that his FBI handlers enlisted him to facilitate a meeting between HRC and a foreign oligarch to receive a 10 figure bribe, in exchange for commitments on US policy in the HRC administration, his role being to get the two of them alone together in a hotel room. He and apparently his handlers did this as part of one or another investigation into her corruption, but after it succeeded, his handlers were joined by another, super-handler, who told him there was a change of plans, HRC would soon become POTUS, and the evidence would not be used to bring her down, but for Obama & Co to control her through her eight years, to be followed by Michelle’s eight years. He was told to forget everything he knew about it, that “they” had made many another billionaire and could and would do the same for him. Instead, he resigned from Overstock.com, sold his stock, and went public with part of the story.
This link above is to the rest of the story, what he told DOJ two weeks before Durham was appointed. He doesn’t know what Durham is doing, but if he’s been following up on this story, it will be much bigger than Spygate.
He claims that, after standing the short sellers in 2006-08, with all their money, mob connections, corrupt journalists, and foreign connections, and exposing massive illegal naked short selling, the Senate Judiciary Committee tasked him with bringing down the Deep State, and wrote him a letter asking any future federal prosecutor to take into account their trust in him, in case he landed in any trouble. Amazing stories there.
Would that it prove true.

McCarthy and Lowry are so far out of touch with real Americans that they don’t have a clue what we think or feel.

The guilty parties need to flogged.

McCarthy has the right of it – 98% of America doesn’t even have an elementary understanding of Russiagate.

President Trump has gotta drop this issue.

The “bombshells” are about 2 or 2.5 years too damn late. This issue isn’t in the top 5 for the vast majority of Americans.

Less than 30 days away from d-day. Now is the time to focus like a laser on the economy, packing the Supreme Court and Biden’s corrupt 47yr record.

IF we can win this election….arrest all these rats and burn down the whole rotten bureaucracy.

My thoughts. President Trump has priorities. President Trump can get people interested in the issues he cares about. Many promises kept, have been done quietly. many important things, have been done quietly. President Trump knows how to win the election. I believe the President Trump will do what needs to be done.
I would like to see most Americans understand that the SSCI is dirty, enough that they throw all those bums out, but I think we have to do it electorally. I want them to see how dirty people are in FBI, CIA, NSA, State Department, DNC, and get them thrown the heck out, and get Americans to take enough interest that we keep it clean for a generation or 2.

F#ck you Andy Mcarthy. One of the NRO “against Trump” originals. A greasestain never changes his spots. Nobody cares about your opinion.

My thoughts.
Never stop talking about President Trump! I don’t care about the lack of concern in the general public. We are living through the single most corrupt act of treason in the history of this county.
I will recount it too my kids, their kids, and if I live long enough my great grandkids!
You might as well ask me to stop talking about God too ….you know, because people are turned off by it.

This is one of those things that cannot be shaken into a reset. It must be broken and then renewed and restarted. The 1st step is disclosure with explanation and just the facts, but all the facts, and importantly, direct to the people. Unleash the Marshalls, and put a John Wayne type in front to explain beside Trump and Pence as it all goes down. To hell with everyone else.
Most of us in our everyday lives, families and professions do much more complicated things and will be able to easily grasp the elements of the corruption story. Heads will have to roll, people will need to pay for their crimes; some in a cell, others in personal hell. Enough already FFS.
We just want this damned situation FIXED, once and for all. Hiding it does the opposite, and festers a gangrenous wound on our beloved republic. Reset, monitor and let’s get constitutional on this crap..

Rich Lowry is a piece of dog doo doo mixed with worms on a pile of fox scat.

I keep telling people, if they can do this to a person such as Donald Trump, what will they do to us. The reason there are police departments crooked as all get out, with a good old boy attitude is because the top law enforcement agency is corrupt as all get out.

Rich Lowry and Andrew McCarthy are part of the problem. So is Ryan, this current idiot minority leader, Mitch, Rubio. Graham, Barr et al. Leftists every last one of them. Tired of being placated and mansplained by these creeps.

If we listed to Beltway Republicans Jeb would have been the nominee in 2016 and he would have easily but very pleasantly conceded to Hillary (one of his sister-in laws!)! Why in the world would we begin to listen to those can’t we all get along, we need to work with the Democrats and reach across the isle jackasses now? No thanks! President Trump press the petal to the metal!

There seems to be only one course of action remaining: Nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure. Collateral damage be damned. It must stop here.