By now the American electorate’s confidence in the FBI is hovering near zero. FBI Director Chris Wray has done nothing to counter a reality of institutional corruption.
To the contrary, and factually, over the past several years the FBI have shown they are politically motivated in all their efforts. If the FBI was not political, they simply wouldn’t be seen taking a knee to express their political alignment with far-left causes:
From the FBI involvement in attempted election interference in 2015 and 2016; to their 2017/2018 efforts to overthrow the U.S. presidency of Donald Trump; to the 2018 Caesar Sayoc case, a transparently self-interested attempt to sway the 2018 mid-term election and protect themselves from further investigation; to the FBI involvement in the 2019 SWAT arrest of Roger Stone; to the 50 FBI agents who worked with Andrew Weissmann and Robert Mueller on the special counsel operation… all the way to this announcement today, everything the FBI does is wrapped in their political ideology.
There is a profound irony when considering how the political left decries Russia’s use of state police for political purposes; and yet we see the United States FBI carrying out identically motivated federal police operations. Think carefully about it.
Michigan – […] The [FBI] news conference comes after the filing of a federal affidavit Thursday morning that describes an alleged plot to overthrow the government and kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.
The plot involved reaching out to members of a Michigan militia, according to the affidavit and federal and state law enforcement officials.
“Several members talked about murdering ‘tyrants’ or ‘taking’ a sitting governor,” an FBI agent wrote in the Thursday affidavit. “The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message.”
[…] The complaint charges Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta with conspiring to kidnap Whitmer.
[…] On June 6, 2020, Croft, Fox and about 13 others from several states gathered for a meeting in Dublin, Ohio, near Columbus. Several talked about murdering the “tyrants” or “taking” a sitting governor.
Those present included an FBI confidential source who recorded the meetings. The source has been paid $8,600.
“The group talked about creating a society that followed the U.S. Bill of Rights and where they could be self-sufficient,” the FBI agent wrote.
Right about this point in the story-line if you find yourself wondering what is the difference between what has been described here, and the “Capitol Hill Occupy Movement”, or CHOP, you would not be mistaken.
Isn’t it strange how the FBI finds purpose in infiltrating this Michigan effort to support Governor Gretchen Whitmer, yet did/does nothing about Antifa or Blue State Occupy anarchists who physically took control over a major metropolitan area. I digress…
“As part of that recruitment effort, Fox reached out to a Michigan-based militia group,” the agent added.
[…] The FBI was already tracking the militia in March after a local police department learned members were trying to obtain addresses of local law-enforcement officers, the FBI agent wrote.
“At the time, the FBI interviewed a member of the militia group who was concerned about the group’s plans to target and kill police officers, and that person agreed to become a (confidential source),” the agent wrote.
In late June, Fox posted on Facebook a video in which he complained about the state’s judicial system and COVID-19 restrictions on gyms operating in Michigan.
“Fox referred to Governor Whitmer as ‘this tyrant b—-,’ and stated, ‘I don’t know, boys, we gotta do something,” according to the court affidavit. “You guys link with me on our other location system, give me some ideas of what we can do.” (more)
Notice how the FBI and media use the term “militia” as a descriptive to cloud the fact this group was essentially anarchists. The narrative as assembled is to conflate the ideology of the group as “right-wing extremists” when the actual ideology of the group is anarchy.
As a sidebar – this type of purposeful conflation was part of my own personal great awakening when U.S. media were proclaiming the Chinese govt crackdown upon students in Tienanmen Square as “hard right” government action. That conflation was completely false. Communism or totalitarianism control is a far-left ideology; the creation of the ultimate state of oppressive government control is a move to the left.
There is a short space in the continuum between totalitarianism and anarchy. Create the former and you will eventually devolve into the latter; it has always been thus. This current narrative is an attempt to frame a false perspective; meanwhile civics is no longer taught in schools – this is not coincidental.
The FBI will not call Antifa a domestic terror group; yet the FBI will proclaim any “militia” as a domestic threat or “extremist group”. The FBI definition of a “threat” is through the prism of big government preservation. That perspective is part of the problem.
This is a video of Brandon Caserta, one of the ringleaders of the group of men arrested for a plot where the group planned to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Caserta has an anarchist flag behind him and in YouTube videos trashes police. He’s not a Republican, he’s an anarchist. pic.twitter.com/J1vE2qGYL7
— Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) October 8, 2020
Watch this video of Brandon Caserta. He was arrested for plotting to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. In this video he poses in front of an anarchist flag and calls police "a violent gang" and "enemies". He’s an anarchist who hates government and police. pic.twitter.com/gYxaDQXcIj
— Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) October 8, 2020
FTA: "Those present included an FBI confidential source who recorded the meetings. The source has been paid $8,600.
“The group talked about creating a society that followed the U.S. Bill of Rights and where they could be self-sufficient,” the FBI agent wrote."
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) October 8, 2020
In 2018 the political arm of the FBI pulled off this stunt in an effort to swing the mid-term election and protect themselves from discoveries of their 2015/2016 election efforts: pic.twitter.com/GLUYa9x4iv
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) October 8, 2020
It's all about politics… If it wasn't, you wouldn't see this: pic.twitter.com/akbidsNqOv
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) October 8, 2020
Fake News…where’s the “MAGA” bomber’s van???
Someone is trying to turn this particular tyrant into a hero?
“Several members talked about murdering ‘tyrants’ or ‘taking’ a sitting governor,” an FBI agent wrote in the Thursday affidavit.”
That kind of “big talk” can be found on countless online bulletin boards and discussion forums
See how easy FBI can extract it and portray it as grounds for the big cudgel of Federal Gummint to be brought down on the talkers?
To an extent, a reminder to keep that kind of talk to a minimum here, lest …
YMMV
Ymmv?
Your mileage may vary
This is total entrapment. Pay an idiot $6800 to go in and record a bunch of losers as they are getting drunk talking about their fantasies of taking the Witch hostage.
This follows up with the White right wing radicals are the real threat from Wray and the left’s narrative that Trump’s dog whistle is the reason the crazies are doing this.
This stunt should leave no doubt that the FBI, if you had any left, that they are working In conjunction with the Dems against Trump to hurt him politically anyway they can.
Your Mileage May Vary,
Which generally means, “you may interpret the known facts differently and come to a different conclusion than I, due to the differences in our personal experiences, outlooks perspectives, etc.”
Yes
In short-hand, I meant it to indicate I’m not looking for a debate or argument
I was offering a simple declarative caution that big talk about armaments or insurrection or ‘magazines with the most clips’ could attract unwelcome gummint attention and who-know-what-else-more-serious …. so should be avoided here
I imagined some would come back with hyper-idealist retorts like “nothing should curb our speech!” or “then they’ve already won!” or “muh free-speech rights!”
But I hew more to the pragmatic than the idealistic
so YMMV was short-hand for “I recognize there are many other viewpoints out there … and thanks for not voicing them”
Yep. I often use it too.
… and thanks for the explanation, GB
No prob.
Well Nim now you got me worried. I don’t like the Biden/Harris ticket and I’m voting for President Trump again. I’ve said some unkind things about the FBI like they are leftist partisan hacks and should be disbanded! And the msm is corrupt and leftist! Worst of all I love America and believe in the country as founded and in the Constitution, that the 2nd Amendment is our God given right to bears arms! Now is that “big talk”? I’m just glad the FBI isn’t monitoring this blog! Lol!
well, I’m not a final arbiter by any means, but you seem to have steered away from any explicit kidnapping and execution plans so you’re probably not getting red-tagged as we speak, Bubby
Publius,
How dare you! Do you doubt the ‘victim’ status now bestowed upon Gretchen Smollet?
this was obvious “entrapment” scheme…most likely 7 of the 8 person group will be spooks…
the recall was going to make Cruella disappear…
Hard to say what this is about. I know that I don’t believe anything that the FBI puts out.
Yet Wray continues as director.
Kidnap Retchin Gretchin TWitmere? I’d rather catch the clap from 3 nights in a Tijuana cat house.
Seriously. Who would want her? This is b-zar. Cue Suspicious Cat.
I can see her captors paying to be rid of her.
“Take my Governor, please!”
“OK we’ll return the money-WITH INTEREST! Just take this rancid batch back PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
An itch with a smile………………
OR what about on a Saigon Street Corner???
At least the 3 might be worth it.
Mike, you are a bad man. A wonderfully bad man.
Notice how the “FBI” dog tags this as “””WHITE””” Supremacy…just because the perps are white?!
The FBI SUCKS!
Why isn’t it BLACK Supremacy when blacks are caught in crime…..Nope…that’s peaceable assembly?
AntiFa is White Supremacy
☠☠☠
They are the new and improved KKK
Doesn’t sound like this has anything to do with race. Sounds more like a separatist or two are trying to engage with frustrated folks and build their numbers that way.
Yea… I guess we should just ignore that big
???
Black and Red AntiFa Flag in the background
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correct…look at the guys Kyle Rittenhouse shot…
And blm is black supremacy. Pure and simple.
Indeed. If the perps being white is the litmus test, then BLM must be a white supremacy group.
Actually there may be something to that….
In fact, carpetrachea, there is something to that.
Demote Wray to a GS 3, fire him and steip him of his clearance. Bar him from renewal and intelligence work.
Same thing for the cuck’s cia wife.
Hell, same thing for Haspel.
It’s like the Hutaree Militia all over again.They got their guns back after two years awaiting trial.
Probably the same players here as well. (Hi Hal.)
I guess I missed some thing here; the FBI considers the Bill of Right and self sufficiency criminal?
The group talked about creating a society that followed the U.S. Bill of Rights and where they could be self-sufficient,” the FBI agent wrote.
Did this militia never read O. Henry’s story “The Ransom of Red Chief”? Two kidnappers expect a rich man will pay a ransom to get his son back. The father refuses to pay and the kid is so obnoxious that the kidnappers pay the father to take the kid back.
“WHITE SUPREMACY”?……that says the FBI is still aiding and abetting the Democrats!
Sounds like just the thing for Kamala and Dementia Joe to use as talking points, doesn’t it?
“….Kamala and Dementia Joe to use as talking points..” Wow! I’m so excited . I can’t wait. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
I read part of the charging document earlier. They used multiple confidential human sources. The whole plot to kidnap and take her to Wisconsin for trial is crazy. I think this is a plot cooked up by a government informant and planted. Taking her out of state made it a Federal crime.
Seriously, why would they just not kill her at the vacation home?
My exact thoughts. If they arrested six nut jobs, there were probably twelve more in the group that were FBI agent provocateurs…I’ll never believe anything the FBI, CIA or NSA puts out at face value again.
The FBI is notorious for inviting people to break the law and then pounce on them
Create the crime and write the indictment. FBI must show they are earning their tax dollars.
You must be thinking of General Flynn…………..not to mention Stone, Manafort, Papadopolous, etc, etc, etc
Ephraim Zimbalist Junior is turning over in his grave.
efrem
father of stephanie
she starred in remington STEELE
hence, my screen name
Stephanie was very attractive…. watched the show to see her…
Remington Steele was very attractive (Brosnan)… I watched the show to see him. That was a LONG time ago…
77 Sunset Strip was even longer ago.
“It’s all about politics.” Somehow the American voter became quite comfortable being politicked to daily. As in, keep lying because eventually voters will grab one to hold onto one that feels good.
__________From Breitbart____________
Several media outlets, including the New York Times and the UK Daily Mail have attempted to cast the individuals as “right-wing” and “Trump supporters,” but at least one suspect, Brandon Caserta, held views more nuanced than that.
Breitbart News reviewed Caserta’s Facebook profile shortly before it was deleted.
In several YouTube videos, Caserta opined about rights and the illegitimacy of government.
“The Constitution is illegitimate,” he said in one posted on May 16, 2020, which was removed after Caserta’s account was terminated.
“Authority doesn’t exist, dude,” Caserta said, seated in front of an anarchist flag, “and, like, the law doesn’t exist.”
___________________________________
Yet Fake News already spinning this leftwing group of Bernie fans as “rightwing extremists.”
This sad effort just proves how useless the FBI are. They didn’t even check the Interwebs to see if there was material that would undermine their garbage “pro Trump milita” narrative.
It’s like that time they tried to create the MAGA bomber. They forgot to check evidence of their patsy’s political past, and he was so useless, they had to hand deliver two of his “bombs” for him to get them to the CNN building and one other location in time for the news cycle.
How do we know the FBI “insider” wasn’t the one who hatched the kidnap plot knowing they could bust the group and use the bust to hurt PDJT in Michigan? It’s not like they haven’t done it before.
That is brilliant and precisely the response that our president should give when he is questioned about it, I’m happy to hear that and good job. I only wish they had been as vigilant on my behalf against the democrat coup.
Except the part about it being a democrat coup. The FBI launched the coup.
Masterminded by the democrats/Clinton op and implemented by the FBI, yep.
“Except the part about it being a democrat coup. The FBI launched the coup.”
you’re repeating yourself, mom
I have relatives that live in MI. I don’t think but a minor few cared that this was thwarted. According to my brother even the most liberal of those he knows, want her out of office by any means necessary. Whitmer was the wrong herring DNC. Even those of us in other states wish the people of Michigan would be freed of her wrath.
Does anyone think the FBI has put in much effort to stop the anarchy that Anifa and BLM have perpetrated?
If you do, I’ve got bridge for sale.
See, even anarchist terrorists hate Whitmer.
People like that all over the country and in every country in the world – they’re disgruntled, fed up and angry at the world.
So, Wray held a press conference the other day re the Beatles – almost as if the corrupt FBI had a hand in their capture as opposed to simply ensuring their safety once they’re on US soil.
Wray has done nothing since his appointment other than obstruct transparency – Wray is useless and pathetic – the fact he hasn’t stepped down tells you all you need to know about his character.
I’m hoping Trump fires him before he’s eligible for pension and any other retirement benefits.
When you think about all that is going on right now, including that the Amy Barrett Confirmation is going to be subjected to virtual, if at all, because Schumer wants to make it safe from Covid, and the brain experts have just newly discovered that Covid does affect the brain the same way it does the lungs, and Nancy Pelosi wants to talk to congress about replacing the President because of Covid affecting his brain, don’t you wonder why “all the King’s men” haven’t acted on the thousands of pages of evidence against the Justice Department before now? The Trump Family has access to the Lawyers of the World, and we Deplorables don’t have any standing at all except in the Small Claims Courts. Impotence defined! What a relief they haven’t out-lawed prayer yet!
DeBlasio is trying to outlaw Judaism in NYC.
Hmmm, must be DeBlasio keeps wrecking New York because nobody runs against him?
I don’t live there but are the Republicans getting arkancided?
I think it’s all Democrats, like California.
As a life long communist DeBlasio is trying to outlaw all religions! But good communists always start with the Jews!
I am seeing some commenters saying there are “black” members of the militia group(s).
President calls out Wray for his stupid comment on ANTIFA, Harris gets trounced at the debate that included an exchange on denouncing hate groups, media spend a week claiming the President never denounces right wing groups…viola the magical arrests.
By the way, this story is months old and there were reports of “militia” threats to Obergruppen Fuhrer Whitmyer a few weeks ago. This story is a recycle.
“ This story is a recycle.” That’s what I was thinking , too. Or maybe something I remembered years ago in a “Blues Brothers” movie.
So our FBI knew about them in 2018 and has been saving it until 3 weeks before an election? They must still be working for Hillary, with us footing their salaries.
The left is so linear that they see anarchists as far right-wingers. Political interests are three dimensional.
It doesn’t affect me one bit. The funny thing is that the fbi is so impotent that they’re probably missing any real movement out there.
So, A.G. Barr, how’s that “no announcement of indictments, in the run up to an election, er,…no that’s the old excuse,..er.
How’s that “no investigations of ANY information that comes from the “Pitical silo” working out?”
RIGHT wing,…sounds POLITICAL to me.
As has been pointed out, your view of what IS, and IS NOT Political is SCEWED.
Coup against POTUS? Oh, THATS political, and so DOJ is RECUSED.
But a small group of Anarchist misfits, that can be LABELED as “Right Wing Extremists”, why THATS not “political” less than a month before the election.
Barr and Wray, trashing the Constitution, and trashing the Institutions of FBI and DOJ, beyond any possibility of repair!
Dutchman. Repeat with me:
there is a possibility of repair
there is a possibility of repair
there is a possibility of repair
… oh, by the way, where are my red slippers?
There is no excuse….none for keeping Wray…
in fact the whole of the FBI needs purged from top to bottom….
any one with common sense and a bit of discernment …know who the real racist are…know who the corrupt ones are…
3 years of slashing swamp water and we have drained none of it just moved the scum around…
hold them accountable….plug the freaking plug.
And pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze stop hiring lawyers as field agents.
It was going to be a mostly peaceful kidnapping.
It was going to be a mostly peaceful kidnapping.
Amazing.
It’s as if anarchists don’t form militia groups.
This is how effed up the media and FBI is.
ANY “militia” is automatically right wing, which is absolute BS.
John Brown Gun Club?
If the acknowledge anarchist exist, then they will have to acknowledge they tend to be Bernie Bros and hard core lefties. That doesn’t fit the narrative. Same with antifa.
and then they found out they would have to pay to give her back.
Anyone know what that flag on the right is? At first I thought it was an American flag but it isn’t.
Flag for the band Periphery.
FBI=Gestapo/Stasi
The heroic FBI in to rescue us from a bunch of twits talking about maybe doing something … meanwhile, cities across the country are being destroyed by violent mobs.
Wray needs to get his sorry ass fired and replaced by someone with a mandate to do a thorough cleansing of the joint and to start going after criminals and not stupid twits.
And the ongoing coup to take down our elected President is still going on after 4 years with no arrests or indictments.
Just in case you don’t hate the Justice Department enough, here are words from their nest of lies and nastiness. soooo many lies!:”Burn it ALL down!”
https://www.ticklethewire.com/about-us/greg-stejskal/ Hannity said 99%nare goof folk. He lied!
This Just In….
FBI moves to arrest the Grand dragon of the Klan…..
oops….
Cool but that should be Biden, maybe Wray.
Ralph Northam ?
So he’s wearing blackface underneath his KKK hood?
Can someone remind me what that New Mexico jihadist group was all about? Oh, training children to be school shooters? And what happened to their camp? The FBI dozed it, right? The FBI is basically a leftist military.
One of the people arrested, Brian Caserta, is an anarchist, not a right-winger. See the anarchist symbol on the wall of his room behind him in this video. I suspect the whole thing was concocted by the FBI as its October surprise for the election.
https://gab.com/JohnRivers/posts/105000675024206124
And a poster on Instapundit says the only right-wing militia involvement was reporting the anarchist’s wild talk to the FBI.
https://disq.us/p/2ceedl4
Does anyone actually believe this? Who would want that whiny spoiled wanna-be dictator!!! She’d do anything to blame President Trump and of course, she is. Sorry, the FBI has ruined their reputation for behaving honorably. Fake news!!
One of these days people like Levin, Hannity, Ingraham, et el will realize Wray’s boss, Barr-zini is a dirty cop.
He has thrown the entire Obama -Gate investigation.
Can anyone name one of Barr-zini’s accomplishments?
A best selling bagpipe shredding album.
Per the FBI “thought” crimes FTA ‘she is a tyrant b****””…Hmmm…are we sure her husband was not recorded after he took off to launch his boat?
Pure False Flag to discredit the Michigan Militia and the Proud Boys and all conservative Republicans and validate their lies that Trump is a White Supremacist and so are his supporters…trying to sway voters away from Trump and Republican candidates…reject their disgusting tactics.
An Anarchist who wants to live by the Bill of Rights.
An abject failure of our educational system, right there.
(a weak attempt at humor)
Who wants to bet this clown is an AntifaBLMEnviroParticipationTrophyNut. He certainly demonstrates that level of intelligence.
Meth – it’s a helluva drug.
“An Anarchist who wants to live by the Bill of Rights”
stellar catch, there, will
I’m at the point where I don’t even know whether to believe this is a real person with real anarchist views, or something more “advantageous” to the current state of the DOJ/IC.
We have a saying where I come from. Barr and Wray are “as worthless as teats on a boar hog”!
The FBI had a heads up, from the Russian government, well in advance to the Boston bomber’s attack and did nothing. Suddenly, the FBI is able to infiltrate and thwart a white supremacist, Antifa organization, and stop their attack. How fortuitous! Just…WOW! These guys are totally clueless.
And, today, Barr’s DOJ releases a new document, on Ciramello, mostly redacted and blacked out. Just thumbing their noses at the President of the United States. Enough!
The demonrats must be worried at how this election will go to pull out desperation measures like this.
As for Whitmer, not even the anarchists like her. Kind of like the flying monkeys in Wizard of Oz rebelling against the Wicked Witch. ?
Yeah, right. A “miltiaman” sporting a pair of hoop earings inserted in stretched ear lobes.
This sounds likea media promoting narrative, false flag to me. First the DHS drafts a document saying that “white supremacy” is the greatest threat facing the nation (not BLM or Antifa). Next FBI Wray calls a press conference concerning “national security” and arrest two ISIS terrorist. (no domestic BLM or Antifa terrorist arrested). Why? …because Wray on or about July 23, 2020 testified that “white supremacy” is the greatest domestic terrorist threat in the country, (again not BLM or Antifa).
Now today revealing this “plot” by “right wing”, “white supremacist” “anarchist” to kidnap Grubernor Witless. “Come on Man” does anyone with a brain trust the FBI or believe this nonsense right before the election?
They will steal the election, and the call Trump supportors that are upset WHITE SUPREMACIST – and have the FBI shooot all of them on site.
News celebrates it.
I just saw Governor Whitmeir on the news. She was exploiting the opportunity to lambast President Trump for “denying science.”. Just for the Governor’s information, Michigan is suffering a much higher infection and death rate than the national average. Those red neck States that have not enforced a draconian lock down are generally doing much better.
Yes, we are. I feel for my brethren living in commie blue states.
Safe to say that 90% of the cases in Michigan occurred in the Tri County Area of Wayne, Oakland, Macomb? Over there the notion of social distancing involves something like “Keep away from my crackpipe!”
Someone needs to force the head Fan Belt Inspector, Faye Wray, to hold a press conference tomorrow so he can clarify for eveyone who the kidnapping plotters really are, anti-government leftwing fanatics, AKA Antifa.
The FIB spinning phony narratives again.
Yep, I’m calling BS on this convenient election year October “arrest” of “militia” planning to kidnap the poor damsel in distress governor. Kidnapping?? To what supposed end? Ransom? This isn’t the 1930s. It’s too convenient, too juicy a headline, too much effort to make it sound right wing.
And then there is this……
Sundance wasn’t kidding, a busy news day, with lots of breadcrumbs.
https://twitter.com/BenKTallmadge/status/1223376793396072448
Sorry need this attachment to help explain.
https://twitter.com/BenKTallmadge/status/1314324178200219648
Deep State Wray is baiting our Law and Order President to fire him prior to election with the Fake News Media lying in wait with a pre conceived narrative to spin.
This comes on the heels of a horrible debate that Harris had…Make no Mistake about it.
She brought up the crap with white supremacists again and again. Said clearly he would not denounce them.
What better way to make the President a target again…with “questions from the media”
Remember the Presidents Tweet….
“Liberate Michigan”
Now the FBI wants to seal the deal and bring it front and center to remind folks….that maybe the president was calling upon the proud boys too… He’s ready to cause mass unrest if he loses…
they need hm gone…BIGLY
right so..
1) Chop doesn talk – they actually do take over a city and demand overthrow of the leaders
2) Anitfa and BLM already post named and addressed of cops
“The FBI was already tracking the militia in March after a local police department learned members were trying to obtain addresses of local law-enforcement officers, the FBI agent wrote.”
3) the group wants to reach out to the militia (and this becomes the militia are doing this?)
By this logic – This entire SITE was the 16,000 the FBI spied on I HAVE NO DOUBT