Antifa activist Michael Reinoehl (pictured left – white T-shirt) was killed during a shoot-out with “a fugitive task force” attempting to arrest him for the suspected murder of Aaron “Jay” Danielson.
According to the New York Times an arrest warrant was issued for Reinoehl on Thursday and when police moved-in to make the arrest Reinoehl was killed during an exchange of gunfire with police.
The Post Mellenial – […] Reinoehl had reportedly fled Oregon and crossed state lines into Washington. A federal fugitive task force located him outside of Olympia.
Reinoehl reportedly left an apartment complex appearing to be armed, The Olympian reported, and entered his vehicle when a shootout began. The shooting occurred in the 7600 block of 3rd Way Southeast in Tanglewilde about 7 p.m. Shots were apparently fired at a traffic stop, KATU reported.
Witnesses at the scene cited an unmarked SUV parked on School Street when the vehicle converged with another on the car at the apartment.
The suspect reportedly exited his car and fired what was believed to be an assault rifle at the SUVs. Bystanders noted hearing 40 or 50 shots, then officers returned fire, hitting Reinoehl. (read more)
‘Bout damn time. Saves a few bucks on an injection, electricity or rope. Take your choice.
AntifaGoons open carrying is nothing new. Always suspected that the blacbloc brigade with their AKs were not the only armed commies in the streets, just the obvious ones. You can see here at about the 3-minute mark four of them with facemasks standing on a street corner.
This was about three years ago in Austin,TX. Notice the red & yellow hammer & sickle Antifa flags, also the horseback mounted unit in the street. If not for the many riot police separating the patriots from the homegrown terrorists there would have been bloodshed that day.
Even with a few of them armed, they almost certainly do not know what to do with themselves or their gear if it came to that.
Underestimating and overconfidence will get you killed. Every time. I once saw a 5′ 7″ 130# guy take down a 5’10” 190# guy with ju-jitsu moves so fast it was hard to believe the little guy was human. Submission hold in under 5 seconds. Probably 3 seconds.
I still recall Zombietime’s “inside the Fremont Street” photos with ChiCom-gear-wearing protestors, and the Asian-heritage woman getting them worked-up.
We let too many sleeper commies into the U.S. during the 90’s and ‘aughts’.
“…inside the Fremont Street fair..” photos.
Damn – it was a good old fashioned western shoot out. How did he get a legal semi-automatic rifle with that kind of criminal record in the land of gun control?
You meant his “assault rifle” right? (That term always cracks me up..)
Will there be a BLM decal on his coffin to match the one on his neck?
You may laugh about the coffin. But if you are a US taxpayer you will be paying for that sorry cardboard crate with the plastic handles they roll into the furnace.
You will also be paying for his daughter’s upkeep. (Although with her murderous father out of the way, there is hope for return on that expense).
Let’s hope his daughter is granted custody to his sister. She has her head on straight and did a fine thing turning him in.
Has his daughter turned in her baseball bat?
I live in the Bible Belt so I just caught the joke.
These people want these filthy cities like they are because that’s WHO they are. Drug addicts who breed and bother people. If everyone is a drug addict, hey we all belong. If we all rape our kids, hey makes good company. If life is sustained by government, no responsibilities.
Will he get a “cross-country funeral service”, like other leftist heroes?
I bet the @shipwreckedcrew is infuriated by this.
I am only for the fact that chances of getting his accomplices in the assassination of Mr. Danielson will now more than likely go free.
Why? Why are you spreading lies about this person? He is a good guy and his commentary and analysis are usually spot on.
His latest article on the subject:
Vice piece on Reihoehl sucked. Implied Trump caravan was aggressor/actor. Did all they could to frame it that way.
Reihoehl was a NUMBAH ONE NUT JOB! And ripe for memes that’ll make Antifa so mad they’ll have coronaries and burst hearts from high blood pressure.
Well, you clearly didn’t follow the Twitter war between sundance and this “crew” when sundance called for the murderer’s arrest.
What “Twitter war” and why should I automatically assume he was wrong?
It turned out he was wrong. My confidence in SD proved to be correct.
Shipwrecked crew is not on our side.
Another COVID 19 stat?
Please forgive this off topic somewhat related
matter:
Prayer is Winning.
Even as measured by Rasmussen:
Witness :
Rasmussen 9/4/20
PDJT JA at 52 percent approval today.
40 % strong approval
Compare Obama., who on 9/4/12
had only 48 % JA,
and only 27 % strong approval
Obama had 100 % Pravda-press apptoval
of everything he did.
President Trump has US, We the People.
And Rev Graham’s Day of Prayer in DC,
which will be reflective of so many of us.
It’s not partisan: It is moral.
I may have a number wrong above-
Gateway Pundit and Washington Examiner
say :
P45 at 52 % ( “back to pre-corona high”).
index of strngth has strong approvals vs disapprovals
tied at 42 % each, apparently,
and this: Apoparently Rasmussen
is getting 47 % job approval among black likely voters.
I think these may underatimate P45 strength.
But they measure the TREND.
THh trend is victory in a fair election.
and a good chance to beat The Cheat,
which is pretty much openly discussed
by The Coup operatives.
And perspective on #44, that number was pre-Benghazi.
A shout out and thank you to Michael Reinoehl for “triggering” his own death penalty execution.
He saved the tax payers a lot of money.
Rest in pieces, terrorist garbage.
Yes!
Justice, but no peace.
50 gunshots fired ?…..that’s sounds excessive……….Clearly, 49 would have done the job.
Still, nice shootin’ Marshalls. As we used to say in the old west – “dead or alive – don’t matter.”
The story reports the information about shootings by suggesting the 40-50 shots happened before police responded. Either that was sloppy reporting, or there were others involved in shooting at the cops. Did this guy really get 50 shots off, and then the police responded?
It appears a significant portion of those shots were fired by the decedent.
“Bystanders noted hearing 40 or 50 shots, then officers returned fire, hitting Reinoehl. ”
Bystanders have no clue how many shots were fired. 10 shots sounds like 20 or 30 out in the streets. 40 or 50 shots would require at least 1 reload, maybe 2 depending on what he was actually shooting.
Stayed in cover till he finished spraying bullets and then when he was out they popped him off is my reckonin’.
My brother (now deceased) used to do a lot of shooting competitions with LEOs participating and he always said most of them were horrible shots. Everyman at the events would win nearly every time.
These were federal Marshalls better trained.
I forget where, but a sheriff was asked why his men shot the suspect 68 times. His answer was because they ran out of bullets.
To all those whitey BLM protestors. Just remember at the end of the day (or your life) you are still white and you ain’t gonna get a big send off. ?
What they all need to be assured of, Black, White, or Whateverwhocares, is the warm welcome that awaits them in their next world and our willingness to pay their fare.
I wonder how many body cams were in operation by the members of various law enforcement agencies during this apprehension? Also, how many security cams might have captured the timing of the tragic events…. If there was plenty of coverage, it should decrease the legendary martyr value of the event. If any body cams on the 4+ officers involved were conveniently “off”, then fiscal and operational heads should probably roll at several departments.
Too bad so sad… what’s for lunch
If Michael Reinoehl had been black, they would have rioted for his death, too.
I know, right? So it’s not that they care about Black lives–they don’t or they would care about all the others who suffer death by the crime of murder. And they don’t really care about white people who die at the hands of the police, so that isn’t what really motivates them. All that is left is their marxism.
If Joe had a son not being paid by Burisma…
I think the leaders received some tips from their masters(Demoncraps officials) that they are being investigated and to be careful.
They have been quiet. 2 nights ago another thug was rightfully killed by cops and no riots. They had an agitated gathering but that was it.
Money has dried out to the terrorists, no more buses to the next riot destination.
The plantation masters are hanging on to the donated money to see how badly they are about to be exposed for past terrorism planing.
Ball squeezing going on… They feel it.
Kleen: Agree. FedGov mop-up operation.
You think so? Who supplies meth and provide shelter claimed to be for the homeless to these nightly predators?
AntifaHQ of Portland has been located funded by C3PO and other groups
https://twitter.com/AlanBings/status/1301705315428323330/photo/1
The fabled #AntifaHQ of Portland has been located. The war encampment that
houses the #PortlandProtests and all of its demonic secrets are now laid bare
to the world. The city is housing them and they have more toilets than The
Chaz. Full video @YouTube
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UE_3LDvWcbY
Lookit that. All in one place and not a spec of cover.
I’ll take “Asians on the rooftops with rifles” for $500 Alex
“My channel has grown exponentially over the last 48 hours. I finally will be able to live stream now since I have over 1,000 subscribers. I look forward to providing additional insight into the plight of the northwest, and the seemingly unstoppable wave of anarchy in the streets.
I leave my safety and my life in the hands of The Father, The King of Heaven; my Master, the one who has given me my very life in the first place!“
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r25bSQWX1fo
Buses to the next destination are not too far off….They arrested one fella (I’m sure there are more) who was arrested at all three major riots- Kenosha, Portland, and DC.
It’s the same people going to different locations causing all of the problems. I’m sure there is a hierarchy and those that travel between are some sort of planner or set up person. Under Obama, a candidate can be spied on easy peasy. Yet now, our law enforcement can’t figure out crap while 4chan is ousting all kinds of bad guys.
Joe Hiden, ” If I had another son he’d look like Michael”
y que lo sea en doble!
Breaking news….Flags at all state buildings in Oregon and Washington will be flown at half mast in honor of the meth head fascist ANTIFA murder. Then the state legislatures will debate naming a holiday after him.
Murderer not murder.
When will the Portland Trailblazers be renamed to the Portland Reinoehls?
Any bets?
Didn’t trail blazers kill innocent Indians and take their land? They should change that name.
Plus, nearly all of them were White. Except for their slaves, if any.
After the 10 funerals for Michael Reinoehl are over.
Funny how this isn’t spurring a hue and cry for gun control laws cuz fringe gringo nationalist went postal. Too many key elements of the narrative don’t work
Unfortunately, Antifa Activist Michael Reinoehl chose to think he was Above the Law and instead of turning himself to defend his views and reasons for killing chose to choose more killing, it is sad to see such misguided mindless actions when in America there are so many more ways to try and change others minds without lost of life. More could have exchanged views than the need to shoot bullets at each other.
There were others, pointing out targets for scumbag Reinoehl. These folks need the dirt nap too. I hope Law Enforcement is looking into these BLM animals. I have strong doubts. Better would be that the street knows who these targets are.
I mentioned to someone the other day who was frustrated that there had been no arrest. All I said was, “We’ll see that happens.”
Someone else may have pointed this out: where I come from it’s called ‘suicide by cop’. Probably hoped his brethren would riot for him. Maybe they will. Gave his life for the cause. Sucker. ?
As Patton/George C Scott said, make the other guy give his life for his cause.
Patton vs. Antifa.
The great general would have gone through Antifa like sh*t through a goose.
BLM/Antifa never make a hero out of whitey, ok. So, whose next?
They’ll do whatever advances their agenda, regardless of the contradiction.
Take note: US Marshals-not FBI. Also the Fed have Deputized Oregon State Police as US Marshals.
They DOJ is going after more Antifa types.. We will see more and quite shocking results. soon.
Maybe even Governors and Mayors…
Please let it be so
Source? This is significant if true.
Some were deputized earlier in summer. Lasts 1 yr.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/oregon-state-police-troopers-deputized-by-federal-government/283-37a20404-cb6e-4502-9dde-441bff3347a9
US Marshals are the only Law Enforcement Group that can get the job done. Disband the FBI and have the US Marshals take over as the Domestic Law Enforcement agency lead the way. They are serious, efficient and effective. Allow ANTIFA to burn down the FBI building, then arrest them.
I always admired the US Marshals. Have a good friend who is a Retired Marshal. Real Bulldog ( he was also in the Marines.) . Let Antifa try pulling HIM out of his Truck.
Please.
They are also starting to prosecute under a federal (civil disruption) law in the area now. If you are convicted of a federal crime you will serve the time. There is very little sentence reduction in a federal facility. I think it is subject to up to a 10-year sentence. DHS and DoJ have decided if the state and locals will not protect the people they will.
Bad news though is he will be voting multiple times in 60 days.
Antifa Activist Killed During Shoot-Out With Task Force Attempting Arrest…
I hope we see dozens of these headlines over the next month or 2 …
Or will we actually be seeing
“Potential Intel Resources and Prosecution Witnesses All Killed in Shootouts with Feds”…?
I’m not suggesting, just admitting to where the level of distrust and suspicion has sunk.
Obviously, these middle-aged White criminals are being paid handsomely otherwise they wouldn’t be rioting for Black Lives or anybody else’s life! The FBI is being run by idiots!
His paycheck came from that 90-year-old demon George Soros or other globalists like him. I wonder if they will be paying his final expenses and putting his daughter through a leftist college so she can graduate as a brain-washed, America-hating automaton proud to follow in her dad’s footsteps.
The “personal” decision to shoot and kill another human being “today” to “prevent” the “possible” shooting and killing of an unknown, unnamed human being (not you)… somewhere (anywhere) sometime
(anytime) the “future”… is not “SELF” defense.
It is murder.
By definition.
In the photo:above, he brought his young daughter. He wanted her to witness the “Revolution ” ….
“You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it’s evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don’t you know that you can count me out
Don’t you know it’s gonna be
All right, all right, all right”
I guess Reinoehl was too young to have heard that message from John Lennon’s Revolution 1.
VICE FULL INTERVIEW
He is the camel whose back was broken by that FINAL “paper” straw:
“They were out to get me… It was a free for all…I was confident I did not hit anyone innocent…totally justified..they’re trying to make me look like a murderer…a lot of people don’t understand what ANTIFA represents…I see a CIVIL,WAR RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER…”
Why isn’t Soros neutralized since he’s behind most of our troubles?
Too BIG to Fail.
He feeds the Global beast.
I’m curious about the western countries that went down the gun confiscation rabbit hole (Britain, Australia, NZ and Canada).
Seeing what’s been happening here, is there any public pressure towards allowing the people to rearm?
I understand that the British have been disarmed for so long that most probably have never seen a firearm but I’ve always thought of the Auzzies and NZ as being an independent people not prone to be subjugated.
Surely, there must be a lot of them who realize now that the loss of their firearms was a major setback for a free people.
I suspect there are still many undocumented firearms in the hands of the public and that reloading equipment and supplies are available as competition shooters don’t buy off the shelf.
If someone from Aus/NZ could post what they perceive the “public mood” to be, I would appreciate it .
I understand that you have no 2A and the politicians there are as corrupt as they are here but if enough people could bring pressure to bear….
Thanks
New Zealand & Australian citizens have no constitution, thus no constitutional rights.
The US Constitution recognizes the inherent right of individuals to pursue happiness, to speak freely, to bear arms, etc. in order to remain free of a centralized government.
The founders if this great nation also placed barriers between three equal branches of government, the Executive, the Judicial, & the Legislative.
What we are witnessing is a global attack on the American ideal & the autonomous individual–in other words, free men & women.
Australia & New Zealand have always been under the control of England. They never had their Revolution.
Thanks, George & Co. Your great sacrifices have burned a beautiful beacon of light to the world for 244 years.
We pray that we will live worthy of you your sacrifice & the sacrifice of all who have shed their blood to protect this free nation over these long years.
He was “100% Antifa” and now he is 100% dead. I like the symmetry of that.
63gordfa ,
I Like the Way You Do the Math ? Happy Friday ?
Near the end of his show, Chris Plante was saying that reports have come out that Mr. Neck-tatt may have shot himself. Dunno, but the world is a little happier today, regardless.
I just had the terribly cynical thought that if this dead piece of garbage were black, er, Black, the mob would no doubt finish burning down Seattle and throw in Olympia as a bonus.
Anybody that wears a clown outfit like he did should be looked upon with much suspicion. Turns out he, like probably most of these rioters, was a scumbag thug. Buh bye.
As to his comments “I had no choice, I had to do it” that is too commonly part of the liberal mindset. “A policeman standing on a corner made me loot”, “A federal building in the middle of liberal utopia made me start it on fire”, “Trump saying hydroxy has some benefit made me not give it to my patients”, “Prosperous well educated white people with good jobs left me no choice but to shoplift”, and on it goes.
The left gives Trump and others incredible power that makes them do things they can’t control. If true, then all Trump has to say is “stop the violence,vote for me” and he wins. No, the left has many choices if they don’t like something, unfortunately they choose a path that is hateful and harmful to most of America.
They really have no logical thought process when it comes to problem solving. What did they do immediately after learning Trump won? They screamed at the sky like little children! Someone should do a campaign video with democrats saying “we will fix this problem by (screaming at sky), we will do better by (screaming at sky), we care about you and will(scream at the sky), and on and on.
We have to go back to institutionalizing crazy people.
Is his name pronounced RYNO
It was about time! He used his freedom to spout more propaganda and try to justify his murder of an evil Prayer Patriot (that our enemies make a point to label an “extreme right wing” group (no doubt because their marxist “Southern Poverty Law Center” says it is.).
We need to note the difference between this terrorist and what Antifa used to be 4 years ago. This murderer was almost 50 years old, an Army vet who was obviously unhinged (previously arrested for being high on drugs, carrying a gun -and drag racing against his teenage son over 110 mph while his 11 y/o daughter was in the car with him. Thereafter he was arrested and let go with no charges (in spite of his pending trial for the previous drag racing crimes) after being caught with a gun at a prior “peacedsful demonstration.”According to reports, he was killed after he fired 30-40 rounds from an “assault rifle” at federal officers.
This is more the kind of terrorist we need to be thinking of (and preparing for).
He lied about being in the Army. But what you have said is true.
Thanks for the clarification!
I’m putting in extra range time.
Wise, very wise.
Jumpin ,
Good Talk ! Happy Friday ?
Back at ya! See you on the barricades!
But, FBI Director Wray says it’s the Patriot Prayer “white supremicist” who is the terrorist.
I’m so thankful that the US Marshalls are running Operation Legend. The FBI can’t be trusted to practice law & order. The FBI is run by criminals.
But, FBI Director Wray says it’s the Patriot Prayer “white supremicist” who is the terrorist.
I’m so thankful that the US Marshalls are running Operation Legend. The FBI can’t be trusted to practice law & order. The FBI is run by criminals.
Sadly, a very reasonable conclusion given the last 4 years.
Deep State is deep.
I’m looking forward to a detailed account about what led up to the shooting and apparently simultaneous pepper spray or mace spray cloud release visible from the various videos. It appears Reinoehl with one or two African American comrades approached two patriot prayer members, Jay Anderson [and Ray Gibson?] with a voice saying, “we’ve got one, we’ve got one. Pull it out, pull it out,” followed by the shooting and spray cloud.
Maybe Andy Ngo can file a report, since “journalism” can’t seem to look past the politics.
And a detailed account of Reinoehl’s death, making clear the sequence of events.
It’s possible that one of Reinoehl’s rounds pierced a can of mace in the pocket of the victim.
His friend said they were both carrying mace for protection and the shot punctured the can.
Okay, so this is kinda funny. The only video we have of the original shooting of Jay was from a “livestreamer” named Justin Dunlap. Its the video everyone sees.
What’s curious about that video is that at the instant the shots were fired, he doesn’t react as a guy who just witnessed a murder would. No, “Holy $hit, gunfire! Nothing.
Also at the end of the video clip, he argues with a guy who is insisting he turn the video over to the police…why?
Maybe he was live steaming riot porn to his antifa buds and they wanted to keep this video as sort of a snuff flick???
I don’t know. But what I do know is that it was his video that the autists at 4Chan used to ID the scumbag who shot Jay.
“an unmarked SUV”? Oh no, here we go again.
Biden is pro-riot. We know this because he picked a running mate who bailed out rioters.
The president’s campaign needs run an ad showing that Harris bailed out rioters and telling of the crimes those people committed AFTER she bailed them out. Pictures of the bailed-out rioters should not be used. Unless they are white.
Easy peasy.
He didn’t “pick” anyone.
Obama and Jarrett picked Harris.
Biden’’s life goal was to be the nominee.(POTUS) for the School textbooks.
They agreed as long as they selected his Brain.
He will be dead orbincapacitated in 90 days.
In the Seattle burbs, this morning I finally, reluctantly and belatedly, removed the Trump 2020 sticker from my car.
Correction, it was a Trump 2016 sticker. Guess I’m focused on this year.
Buy a magnetic 2020 sticker. That way you can remove it when you park it in public to avoid vandalism.
Oh no, you dumped the “Trump 2020” sticker? Come on, man.
Grim satisfaction. Another enemy combatant dead. Rest in peace now, Jay.
No problem here…
Apparently, Sleepy Joe said that we are experiencing a “K shaped recovery”. …..K, I’ve been examining the letter K for the last 10 minutes or so. Does anyone know what the hell he’s talking about?
Perhaps I am over analyzing an Altzheimer’s patient. I just hope I’am not the one with Altzhiemer’s.
Argh, sorry, wrong thread!
Maybe he forgot the letter “O” – so “Okay!”
Judge Albrecht’s (CAA) (Chief Criminal) number: 503.988.3835
Judge Baggio’s phone number 503.988.3365 (appointed by Governor Brown)
Just called asking for a statement as to how this idiot was allowed on the street with a firearm considering he had priors and a no show, and if either or both judges would be stepping down.
I received a frosty answer and then the phone went dead. Wonder why?
https://www.courts.oregon.gov/courts/multnomah/go/Judge%20Documents/JudicialDirectory.pdf
WSB,
Thanks for the information and your actions.
It was curious to me as well that when this guy was pulled over with his teenage son for driving 100 MPH, while “under the influence” and they found his Glock, that he was just magically allowed to return to society with zero rammifications.
They will never answer us on this, but I am glad you took them to task.
Best,
Simple Citizen
Sorry: ramifications
I guess his body armor didn’t do him much good-oh well
Pay attention Antifa & BLM, you can run but you cannot hide.
Thanks for making that call, WSB.
I’m at the point of praying to God that these corrupt DAs, Judges, and Dem Politicians who are in on this all serve long sentences behind bars in a not-so- friendly PRISON.
At this point, I’d even exchange ’em for one of the criminals they let loose on the rest of us.
Thank you, Sunnydaze. I have been making these types of calls lately because even if the clerks hear the complaints – at least if they get some phone calls – one may even wake up.
WSB,
You are one of many long term posters here at the Tree House that I have much respect!
Keep on doing what you do and encouraging others here to be involved.
Again, i do not post regularly.
Keep on fellow Treepers!
Imo, we are in a dangerous stage of our American Nation!
Our recent “education system” has indoctrinated younger generations in near Marxism and “Hate America racism” first.
Using our ability to contact our Representatives, per your posts makes sense to me!
IMO, the alternative is largely Left Wing calls for an induced Civil War in America…which is not anything we should desire, but we should have some preparations for what these Marxists have been advocating for years.
Then let’s be ready for it. I believe it so too foggy
Franklin Graham’s Prayer on DC on Sept. 26 actually gives us a chance to offer the President some major support. Consider going if you can.
Much appreciated, fh. I was amazed that I got through to Fauci’s office the other day!
I did not get an answer but will keep calling.
That is nothing.
Yamhill County Oregon Judge Ladd Wiles gave a marijuana bootlegger a free pass for shooting a 12 gauge shotgun at his landlord’s children in retaliation for efforts to evict them after the discovery of their massive, unlicensed grow that was illegal under Oregon as well as Federal law.
Judge Wiles refused to consider the evidence that the grow was is illegal, insisting that it is legal now. Judge Wiles’ own wife, Amanda S Marshall, was aggressively prosecuting criminals with similar bootleg operations while she was the is Attorney for the State of Oregon. Perhaps judge Wiles was too preoccupied by concurrent proceedings by the Oregon Bar Association against his wife for committing perjury about her extramarital sexual relationship with a subordinate at the US Attorney’s office?
Judge Wiles’ office can be reached here:
503.434.3054
Elmer, definitely worth a call!!!!
WSB, good for you!
The report in the Post Millenial that 40-50 shots preceded the return fire by police lacks credibility. The only way Reinoehl could have pulled that off would be with a full auto weapon that had an absolutely huge magazine (or was belt-fed). Even then, it’s doubtful he could have managed more than dozen full auto rounds before effective return fire began.
Still, we need to wait for the body-cam videos that must come out. Until those videos are released the Antifa/BLM/Anarchist Left will be screaming “EXECUTION!!!” from the rooftops.
Have you ever seen, hefted a 100 round magazine for an AR15?
Trust me, that thing loaded is likely more for show than anything. Might be good for celebrating the New Year and then… everybody duck for cover!
40 or 50 rounds might have been ALL the rounds shot. The guy shoots 10 rounds fast and then 4 cops shoot 30 rounds at him.
Not a number that I would put much trust on. Just say a “lot of shots”.
That is not at all incredible. Standard magazine capacity for AR-15 rifles is 30 rounds. 100 round drum magazines are not uncommon. Firing rate of a semiautomatic rifle by anyone with a moderately well educated trigger finger is 3 to 5 rounds per second.
“3-5 rounds per second”???
With all due respect: HORSE PUCKEY
A semi-auto rifle requires ONE trigger squeeze to fire ONE round.
Remove any rifle from the equation, and forget the time it takes for the bolt carrier & trigger mechanism of an AR to fully reset in a semi-auto config, and try this exercise:
Take your “trigger finger” and simulate a squeezing a trigger 5x per second…as you described
Maintain that tempo for just five seconds…and see how fast ya cramp up before ya hit “25” individual presses…
Any legit firearms instructor will preach this mantra:
“Slow is smooth & smooth is fast”
Even 3 rds/sec is NOT anywhere near “smooth” with an AR…
A meth-ed up pinko commie domestic terrorist moran ain’t gonna rattle off 40-50 rounds (requiring at least one mag drop& swap) in that short a time. Reckon he bailed out, started spraying and praying and multiple LEO returned fire to end him & save us taxpayers some $$$ in trial expenses and incarceration costs. Fine by me!
You ever been to an IPSIC practical pistol or three gun match? The top shoppers routinely fire 6 rounds per second with 90% hope rate. The C class after at 3 rounds per second with maybe 80% hit rate.
Even a moron can rattle off 100 unarmed rounds that hot no one.
Of you want yup discuss the basic physics that dictate the cyclic rate of the forearm, I’m more than happy to have that conversation with you. Semiautomatic verses fully automatic has nothing to do with it. The mass of the bolt and bolt carrier assembly combine with the spring rate of the recoil spring (factoring in preloading) dictates firing rates. Most AR-15 type rifles clock in at about a 600 t rounds per minute or 10 rounds per second cyclic rate.
Sounds like ya punched a lotta cardboard and rang a lotta steel, Elmer. There any wabbits left around you way?
Buffer weights affect cyclic rate too. My .02
Slow down KMD. Any halfway skilled AR shooter can get off 3 shots/second. Key is to keep finger on trigger and know where it releases. Whether one NEEDS 3 rds/sec depends on the situation.
“Take your “trigger finger” and simulate a squeezing a trigger 5x per second…as you described”
——
Not good comparison. The AR trigger yields to finger pressure and travels a very short, specific, and repeatable distance. The trigger travels back to where it was as the bolt recoils to the rear, thus pushing hammer down and engaging disconnector, thus resetting trigger for next shot..
Pretending to squeeze a trigger means fails to provide specific, repeatable rearward travel distance. Likewise, there’s no mechanical “reset” of the finger to it’s original position and thus, you don’t ever know if your starting the next make believe squeeze from where you started the first make believe squeeze.
Pretending to squeeze a trigger as fast as you can is not a reliable indicator of how fast someone can squeeze a real trigger.
As to the claim that 3 rds/sec is not smooth in a light recoil .22 rifle? Well, I guess it depends on one’s skill level.
Jerry Miculek, 5 shots under 1 sec:
Jeez, y’all missed the point, not to mention the fact that I intentionally ‘dumbed down’ the AR lingo & operation thereof.
Mainly, so that the average CTH reader can appreciate the fact that “5 shots /sec” and “100rd drum mags” are NOT the norm for the average pinko commie street thug to employ, whilst operating said semi-auto AR…
And nevermind the fact that ARs can and do employ both single & two stage triggers, which also affect ‘feel’ and operation of rapid firing in semi-auto…
Heck, just ponder, for a moment, the folly of comparing pro 3gun competitors, to this dip$hit murderer…
The point?
Ya missed it.
No worries though. We’re on the same side here…
Trump 2020
Yer right about fast is slow and slow is fast; after a lot of practice, anyway.
This guy’s stance is all wrong (a pistol caliber cartridge fired from a 10 lb firearm with a 3 lb drum is pushing him back!) but he’s having fun. Finally leans forward a little bit and lets off a few 10-20 round bursts. 30-50 round bursts are more fun, specially on a classic like the TSMG. Once you get your shoulder up, forward, and into it there’s virtually no muzzle rise.
No. You are incorrect.
A standard gas-operated AR-15 has a maximum semi-automatic fire rate based on the time between the discharge of one round, the gas-pressure caused reverse movement of the bolt assembly which extracts the spent shell casing, followed by the spring-powered forward Movement of the bolt assembly which extracts the next round from the magazine and chambers it in the upper receiver. The only requirement to fire the next round is trigger pull.
It is actually surprisingly easy to squeeze off three rounds per second in a clean, lubricated and properly functioning AR-15 style rifle, but with some sacrifice of accuracy (which decreases Significantly with increased distance to target). It does take a small amount of practice for trigger finger training and optimum muscle control.
I’ve never achieved more than 5 rounds per second and I cannot maintain that rate evenly for a full magazine of 30 rounds. I won’t speak for others.
3 seconds, 30 rounds, M16 full auto. 3.5 to 4 seconds, 30 rounds, AK47 (milled receiver) full auto.
C’est La Vie!
Let the violent activists scream their delusions.
While we’re at it, let us support their fantasy notions that the rooftops are populated with police snipers, prepared to strike down antifa violence.
Circulate some of the Gulf Wars descriptions of various country’s sniper operations and successes. That should make the activists fearful of any rooftop/building/’high ground’ within sight.