According to most media presentations of the performance, eight GOP candidates have qualified for the debate though some have not yet signed the required private corporate RNC loyalty pledge.
The debate qualifications are:
(1) Must have at least 40,000 unique donors, with at least 200 unique donors from each state. (2) Must reach at least 1% in three national polls that meet the RNC’s requirements or at least 1% in two national polls and in two polls from separate early voting states. (3) Must sign the RNC’s “Beat Biden pledge” – a commitment to back the eventual Republican nominee.
The candidates who have met the first two qualifiers are, Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, Vivek Ramaswamy, Doug Burgum, Chris Christie and somehow Mike Pence.
Trump, Christie and Pence have not signed the loyalty pledge.
Presumably donor threshold verification is a part of the RNC requirement to share donor information with the corporation in order to be considered a “Republican.” It’s a little funny, in a revealing sense, that collecting donor information is a priority – but ballot harvesting, not-so-much. Go figure.
• The DNC wants power. The RNC wants money.
• The DNC uses money to get power. The RNC use power to get money.
• The ideology of the DNC drives their corporate donor activity. The ideology of the corporate donors drives the RNC.
This is the essential difference in their corporate business models. Other than that, on a policy perspective -much like the candidates within the corporation- they are the same. One big uniparty club; each subsidiary, DNC or RNC club division, with their own priorities.
Somehow, Mike Pence found 40,000 donors and 200 per state to put their names on a registration form and give him money. At least that’s the RNC storyline, and they are sticking to it. The business end of UniParty politics has many base voters questioning just about everything now, and rightly so. From my own review, it’s all suspect now.
The social and cultural ideology of the left-wing is clear; they are pushing ideology. However, when you look at the right-wing corporate response, notice the focus is on money. The left is pushing a cultural revolution; the right is seeking to gain money in (a) corporate alignment, or (b) velvet-gloved combat against it.
The leftist ideology advances. Notice there is no ideological pushback against the cultural revolution from Congress. Why?… Money
Democrats know if they want to advance ideology, simply find a mechanism to pay Republicans. Easy peasy.
♦ Ukraine. IDEOLOGY: The agenda of the left-wing (Dems) is clear; they are pushing for an expanded totalitarian globalist agenda. MONEY: The right-wing response to the Ukraine ideology is money. Congress funds the industrial military machine, the military contractors. The contractors repay politicians.
The globalist ideology advances. Notice, there is no ideological pushback against the White House and U.S. State Dept foreign policy from Congress.
Why?… money.
If you are an institution (or individual) and your enterprise needs power to advance your interests (think Big Tech), you align with Democrats. If you are an institution (or individual) and your enterprise needs money to advance your interests (think Wall St), you align with Republicans.
The left-wing wants power to advance ideology. The right-wing wants money. That’s why the Republicans never stop any of the Democrats’ ideological gains.
♦ Elections. IDEOLOGY: The ballot-harvesting agenda of the left-wing (DNC/dems) is clear; they have thousands of networked groups funded by donor activity (Zuckerbucks etc.), organized in every community to assemble ballots. MONEY: The right-wing response is to see the opportunity for fundraising…. Meanwhile, a massive network known as True The Vote, Catherine Engelbrecht, with an army of skilled voter integrity grassroots operations, easily retooled to a ballot collection network, sits untapped.
This is the nature of the system that distracts us. Two wings of the same vulture. This is the inherent nature of U.S. politics in the big picture, and I can get as granular and specific as anyone might need – including the propositions for why club candidates are selected within the ‘illusion of choice’ game.
When asked the question of should President Trump debate the GOP contenders, it seems silly. There is only one candidate with an America First outlook to withdraw from foreign conflict, focus on the interests of American citizens first, build a self-sustaining Main Street economy, grow the domestic economy to meet entitlement needs, tax imports to incentivize domestic production, and control immigration with a border wall.
Donald Trump is the only candidate who holds those views; he’s essentially a third-party unto himself, so what is there to debate?
The junior varsity competing for second place.
It’s no big mystery how Judas Pence got onto the stage. He and Suaraz both sent me e-mails begging me to donate $1 to them in return for a $20 gift card. Apparently he reached 40,000 idiots willing to do that. (Full disclosure: I wasn’t among them).
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That sounds highly illegal.
DemonRATS have been doing it for years..get the picture!
So the treacherous homosexual pedo not-worth-2-Pence was out buying votes with other peoples’ money, figures…
You say it here “homosexual pedo” . . . . the last time I heard that about Pence was when it was uttered by Lin Wood. THEN, I really did wonder about Mr. Wood. But now after all Pence has done, maybe I don ‘t wonder so much about Mr. Wood.
40k uniparty bots.
“Apparently he reached 40,000 idiots willing to do that”
Or, a couple of enterprising individuals that found a way to exploit the $1.00 for $20.00 opportunity.
Like the folks that recently were charged for exploiting the bottle deposits over state lines, to the tune of millions of $.
Add the dude from ND to that list. I got the same $1 “offer” from all 3 of them.
Doubtless the same money source behind all of them.
40000 x 20 only equals 800K
That is front pocket folding money for a campaign hired solely to defeat Donald Trump at all costs…
$760,000 supposedly they got 40,000 $1 dollar bills from these “donors”…
Thats the only way he could do it. Pence showing up at the debate will be suicide for his pathetic campaign, and will also give people a chance to catch up on their sleep.
It’s not just a matter of PT debating those Rino losers, it’s the draconian stipulations the RNC demands the participants bow to in order to debate those Rino losers that are a bridge too far. The promise of supporting whoever they install as candidate… also data sharing? That means PT supporters names and addresses handed over to the Uniparty etc.😝. PT is expected to give a ton and get only backstabbing back 😡
Not to mention the only reason they even want him on the debate stage, apart from to ambush him, is for their ratings. They’re afraid people might ignore them to death otherwise
Yep – seriously who would want to watch that S^%* show with those candidates? There are maybe 2 I would want to see – without Trump no one will be tuned in. I can’t wait to see the ratings …hahaha
These are the VP debates. And the answer is…none of the above.
Kari Lake isn’t there so it’s not even that.
“Can you milk a bull?” One tough lady that Kari Lake.
Actually, the first time she said it, it was along the lines of “Katie Hobbs says she believes there are 40 genders, tell her to go milk a bull, and see how that turns out”.
The future of MAGA is secure, with Kari Lake, who is JUST GETTING STARTED, and just by her prescence, she forestalls any attempt at TPTB to derail MAGA.
“Democrats know if they want to advance ideology, simply find a mechanism to pay Republicans. Easy peasy.” This is a brilliant explanation of the US political operating system as it really exists, not as people think/wish/believe it exists. I know it’s real, but I’m still trying to understand the mind and morals of those who fervently and passionately want to destroy their fellow countrymen, and the seared consciences of those who are willing to be paid not to interfere with the destruction of their fellow citizen’s lives. I pray, like David did of his enemies in the Psalms, that the Lord “cut off the memory of them from the earth.”
simple. acknowlege there are aome of us born and some whose life paths are those of psychopaths. there no other uliltimate position in life for the paychopath but to be part of the usg in some way, as that is where all the power is concentrated. therefore, every psychopath will venture to government to fullfill their evil tendencies.
Mickey Mouse must have a sore hand signing all those signatures.
WHY would Trump be a participant in a Circus Maximus? Although he’d WIN , he would be throwing himself into mostly lion’s den!
If Trump were to participate he would 1) Be adding credibility to the event, and 2) Be wrestling with pigs. Messy, and not worth the trouble. The RNC wants it for the ratings he would provide.
there aren’t even 40k people that know mike pence. uniparty bots.
Looking at the qualifications for presidential losers to be on the debate stage, looks like no qualifications at all. The bar is so low almost anyone could qualify. I have to agree with other commentors as to how the greatest traitor in American History…MIKE PENCE, was able to find 40,000 drooling, brain dead individuals that should have been on a life support system? I am sure Ronna ROMNEY McDaniel disregarded the low bar qualifications on several of these bought and paid for Establishment puppets in order to give the illusion of having a “choice” to the American People. The ONLY choice the American People would have is, what face do they want on the Establishment Puppet. It is either Donald John Trump as President, or the party is over and so is the United States as founded. That is the ONLY choice the American People have, ‘live or die’.
I would suggest that Trump and RFK jr. debate the night of the Fox event. That debate would be awesome on so many levels, not the least for a demonstration of honest deferences.
Lose your “in Love with” Bobby, the sooner the better.
And no, cheering that he is “the Dem DJT” is NOT a good thing.
Jr. is the the DNC, as RDS is to the RNC.
An attempt to lure the Dem walkaways back onto the Dem reservation, and hence AWAY FROM PDJT.
And he is positioning himself (or being positioned) that way, EXACTLY the same as RDS was positioned, the 4 years of his first term.
President Trump should show up and just sit in the front row and stare at the losers as they struggle up on the stage.
You would be amazed at the President Trump signs from the last race still proudly displayed with duct tape over Pence’s name!
I have seen many of them in central and northern Wisconsin.
If a gaggle of GOP candidates debate and Trump isn’t there, did anything really happen?
A common myth perpetuated by both parties, is that any elected President was automatically “the Head of the Party” implying that he “called the shots”.
Obviously, only when he wasn’t bucking the party, on policy. With Reagan, and PDJT’S first term, we now SEE how they undermined both with pushing a traitorius VP, and cabinet appointments, to frustrate the Presidents agenda.
PDJT was in no way viewed, by RNC or GOPe as “the head of the Republican party”, but HE IS NOW.
They NEED him, HE doesn’t need THEM. HE has them BEAT on the “donor game”; their “Bush Rove ‘strategy’ of building up a huge “campaign war chest” by having large contributors “max out” has backfired.
PDJT has millions of small donors, who have on average only contributed 10% of their maximum, and can continue to donate in small increments, THROUGHOUT the campaign, hence his campaign has a SUSTAINABLE and virtually UNLIMITED source of funds.
He doesn’t need the debates, THEY need him.
They can not use rule changes, proportional delegate selection, or other convention shenanigans, the excuse of Indictments, etc.to deny him the R nomination without utterly destroying the R wing of the Uniparty for good.
And yet, even IF they WERE willing to do that, they have no absolute guarantee that he would be unsuccessful running as an newly formed America First party candidate and winning, and so they would be facing THEIR certain destruction, while only strengthening America First.
In an existential battle, you MIGHT choose self destruction IF you can be assured of taking out your enemy WITH you, but to effectively suicide, without assurance of taking out your enemy, is not logical, it is pointless.
“Sometimes, 10%, or even 1%, when its DOUBT, is enough.”
Now that was funny! Good one.
IMHO, #MAGA is now executing a “HOSTILE TAKEOVER” of the NRSC & RNC. “We the PEOPLE” (MAGA) will not stop until the State, Local and Federal Bureaucracies have been purged of RINO’s & DEMONRATS. Hopefully most of those who have betrayed America & Americans will end up prosecuted for TREASON , AND, what’s the penalty for treason?
No more $$$ to “WINRED” for me I send personal checks to those PATRIOTS who I SUPPORT including President Trump.
I am so old and crippled up that about the only thing I can still do to help my Commander in Chief, Donald J. Trump, is by donating to the cause to get him back in position so he can clean up the mess these evil bastards have made of our beloved country.
However, unfortunately, I have become so jaded by the lying and underhanded conniving of everyone in government—and all the creeps who prey on especially us older citizens in order to fill their own coffers—that my wife and I don’t send donations to anyone.
You say: “No more $$$ to “WINRED” for me I send personal checks to those PATRIOTS who I SUPPORT including President Trump.”
I would really appreciate if you, or anyone here at The Tree House, who has success with this would tell me how you go about finding—and knowing for certain—that you have legitimate addresses to assure that your checks get to the correct person.
For PDJT, the below form has the proper address on it, complete and include the form to ensure they can abide proper regulations.
https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/djtweb24/general/TSA_JFC_Contributor_Form_230217.pdf
Other candidates I can’t say, but they should have something similar.
As far as ensuring your donation made it through the USPS and was properly credited to your account, the FEC maintains a website, updated I think only quarterly, where you can verify your contributions, but I don’t know the link, keep your eye out for Treeper Sunrei, she has done good work on this front and I’m sure she can provide the FEC link.
How can I give directly to Trump? I don’t want the RNC taking a cut
Even if you give through WinRed, linked at DonaldJTrump.com, they only take as much as any normal credit card processor would take, you can give more to WinRed themselves, if you wish, and they will distribute it as they wish, very likely in a fashion you would not wish, but there’s no need to give to them, just say no when asked.
Your contributions are going straight to President Trump’s Presidential Campaign and his PAC, in a split he has authorized, you can see that as you are donating; none is going to the RNC.
Some complain they had problems, which can be avoided by reading and deciding if you want to make regular automatic donations or additional donations, just check or don’t check the boxes, just like anything else one does financially online.
If you want to go all paper all the way, through the USPS, use this form and send it to the address on it:
https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/djtweb24/general/TSA_JFC_Contributor_Form_230217.pdf
A GOP Debate Without Trump Is the Definition of Pointlessness
If the former president doesn’t show up to the upcoming first debate, it will only make his “rivals” look more pathetic.
By John Nichols
11 Aug 2023
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-debate-plans
The Merkel vs Trump pic is one of my favs. The posturing of everyone is amazing. The op for memes is endless.
Debate? Those are not debates. They are questions and answers. Besides, who wants to sit in from of the idiotometer (aka TV) and suffer Bret Baer.
More interested in Trump debating the communist party of democrats than the goons that want the title
of being a presidential candidate
I immediately apply the “Suspicious Cat” caveat to the Mike Pence qualification. I have devolved to the point of not trusting any aspect of any election, especially the DNC and the RNC. The strings of the puppets are visible, and the corruption is obvious. Now all we have to do is get someone to enforce our laws. Our nation is going down the tubes while we watch.
> somehow Mike Pence
Uninformed Republican voter: “Oh, Mike Pence. Yes, he was vice president already, so he’s qualified. He’s like another Trump, but without the offensive name-calling. I’ll support him.”
Little do they know that Pence is establishment uniparty, was always in it for himself, and through his appointment advice was the chief saboteur of the Trump presidency.
The # of “Uninformed Republican voters” is VERY SMALL; witness Pence and others BUYING small contributors, by paying them $20, for a $1.00 donation.
Almost tempted to sign up, and then transfer the $20 payoff to PDJT’S campaign, lol.
I’d be pretty happy if Trump ignored the debates altogether and none of us tuned in.
He wouldn’t even need a rally on the same night(s), although that sounds like something he’d do. LOL.
I’d be happy if RSBN did a Republican debate the same time and date. The qualifications being you need 500,000 individual donors nationwide, and 40% support nationwide. Basically, do a 2 hr. sitdown interview with President Trump.
I don’t like that pledge. It sounds like a secret society pledge. Of course De Santis does secret society pledges –that’s the problem. President Trump should only make a pledge to the American People–that I can support.
The pledge is silly on its face. Last election when a non-RNC approved candidate won the primary they were referred to as non-electable and dismissed by the RNC. Kari Lake is a prime example. So no, the pledge is a joke.
No way did Chrispy Kreme really qualify. This is all more pretending.
WHY is America overlooking the most obvious form of election interference that’s common throughout the world and throughout history: POLITICAL PROSECUTION? Between political prosecution, violating FEDERAL ELECTION LAWS, a corrupt media and communist democrat party ELECTION FRAUD, ELECTION INTEGRITY is ZERO! POLITICAL PROSECUTION VIOLATES the HATCH ACT – a federal law. ELECTION LAWS are being VIOLATED every election, yet the JUDICIAL SYSTEM DOES NOTHING! America has become a nation of COWARDS and USURPERS against American citizens. When the judicial system goes ROGUE, they too must be destroyed. VOTE THEM ALL OUT!
Actually, the most perniscious, if not obvious form of election fraud, is the ILLUSION of Choice, exemplified by the Uniparty.
Even in CCP controlled China, they actually have 8 different political parties, ..probably didn’t know that.
Because “theres a war on” Zalenski banned all “opposition” political parties, but in most dictatorships, they do create the illusion of choice, by having “approved” opposition political parties, for instance in Iran.
I can see why President Trump does not want to attend the debate.
The Meatball will show up in his apron, with spatula ready. RappinSwamy will be break dancing on the floor. While Pence sits in a corner, idly picking petals off a daisy.
Who in their right mind would even want to be in the same room with these people?
When Barrasso, McConnell, Collins, and Cornyn went to meet with the little comedian it was about one thing: money.
I am delighted that Martha MacCallum and Bret Baier will be deprived of asking PDJT snarky, “gotcha,” and grossly misleading, ridiculously sourced questions and pitching the others on the stage anti-Trump softballs. They have crapped away all of their credibility as presidential election observers and commentators.
Oh no worries there-every question will contain a “President Trump” reference, snark, opposition, what would you do, think blah blah blah etc. gotcha whether he is present or not. Everything is always about DJT, they can’t help themselves.
Mom….I keep finding you waiting in my “pending”. If you’d just remove the apostrophe from your name, your comments would no longer get stuck….promise.
The Republican Party is dead. At least to me. That the idiots the elect to run campaigns appear to work for the left. Rhonda, Steele either idiots. Total incompetents are leftists it doesn’t matter. If you contribute a penny to them you are antiAmerican. McConnell, McCarthy, Chaney, hundreds of others laughing at you as they attend events in “the Vineyard, G-Town, the Hamptons. Etc”
Yeah, But Trump sure Picks Losers, and then Blames Others for recommending them to him.
DemocRats deliver on their Bolshevik Pogroms, unfortunately
Repubs are mainly weazely Quislings.
Trump is my choice, but I’m not confident in his discernment.
Everyone has shown their colors, none can hide who they are, he has a MAGA Army behind him and has a stable of Generals and Lieutenants ready to rock.
Are you trolling this site? Why would you want to help those Demcommies with their Bolshevik Pogroms?
The only other person besides President Trump that I want to hear from is Larry Elder. He has some good advice for the black community.
Vkvek and Nikki are inelgible Constituionally, Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5, Both are “anchor babies”. The Parents of both of these were here on Foreign student vidas at the time of their births..
For all too many, Constitutional considerations are passe.
I still think we should erase Zero and his puppet too.
Save America!
I think GOP candidates should demand fox select different Moderators instead of Brett baier and Martha macallum . ..Candidates should demand they should be replaced . Suggest judge Jeanine, Maria baritomo, even Greg gutfeld or Jesse waters would be more interesting and more entertaining and possibly more fair and balanced. But I think no matter what, trump should not bother to go