According to most media presentations of the performance, eight GOP candidates have qualified for the debate though some have not yet signed the required private corporate RNC loyalty pledge.
The debate qualifications are:
(1) Must have at least 40,000 unique donors, with at least 200 unique donors from each state. (2) Must reach at least 1% in three national polls that meet the RNC’s requirements or at least 1% in two national polls and in two polls from separate early voting states. (3) Must sign the RNC’s “Beat Biden pledge” – a commitment to back the eventual Republican nominee.
The candidates who have met the first two qualifiers are, Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, Vivek Ramaswamy, Doug Burgum, Chris Christie and somehow Mike Pence.
Trump, Christie and Pence have not signed the loyalty pledge.
Presumably donor threshold verification is a part of the RNC requirement to share donor information with the corporation in order to be considered a “Republican.” It’s a little funny, in a revealing sense, that collecting donor information is a priority – but ballot harvesting, not-so-much. Go figure.
• The DNC wants power. The RNC wants money.
• The DNC uses money to get power. The RNC use power to get money.
• The ideology of the DNC drives their corporate donor activity. The ideology of the corporate donors drives the RNC.
This is the essential difference in their corporate business models. Other than that, on a policy perspective -much like the candidates within the corporation- they are the same. One big uniparty club; each subsidiary, DNC or RNC club division, with their own priorities.
Somehow, Mike Pence found 40,000 donors and 200 per state to put their names on a registration form and give him money. At least that’s the RNC storyline, and they are sticking to it. The business end of UniParty politics has many base voters questioning just about everything now, and rightly so. From my own review, it’s all suspect now.
The social and cultural ideology of the left-wing is clear; they are pushing ideology. However, when you look at the right-wing corporate response, notice the focus is on money. The left is pushing a cultural revolution; the right is seeking to gain money in (a) corporate alignment, or (b) velvet-gloved combat against it.
The leftist ideology advances. Notice there is no ideological pushback against the cultural revolution from Congress. Why?… Money
Democrats know if they want to advance ideology, simply find a mechanism to pay Republicans. Easy peasy.
♦ Ukraine. IDEOLOGY: The agenda of the left-wing (Dems) is clear; they are pushing for an expanded totalitarian globalist agenda. MONEY: The right-wing response to the Ukraine ideology is money. Congress funds the industrial military machine, the military contractors. The contractors repay politicians.
The globalist ideology advances. Notice, there is no ideological pushback against the White House and U.S. State Dept foreign policy from Congress.
Why?… money.
If you are an institution (or individual) and your enterprise needs power to advance your interests (think Big Tech), you align with Democrats. If you are an institution (or individual) and your enterprise needs money to advance your interests (think Wall St), you align with Republicans.
The left-wing wants power to advance ideology. The right-wing wants money. That’s why the Republicans never stop any of the Democrats’ ideological gains.
♦ Elections. IDEOLOGY: The ballot-harvesting agenda of the left-wing (DNC/dems) is clear; they have thousands of networked groups funded by donor activity (Zuckerbucks etc.), organized in every community to assemble ballots. MONEY: The right-wing response is to see the opportunity for fundraising…. Meanwhile, a massive network known as True The Vote, Catherine Engelbrecht, with an army of skilled voter integrity grassroots operations, easily retooled to a ballot collection network, sits untapped.
This is the nature of the system that distracts us. Two wings of the same vulture. This is the inherent nature of U.S. politics in the big picture, and I can get as granular and specific as anyone might need – including the propositions for why club candidates are selected within the ‘illusion of choice’ game.
When asked the question of should President Trump debate the GOP contenders, it seems silly. There is only one candidate with an America First outlook to withdraw from foreign conflict, focus on the interests of American citizens first, build a self-sustaining Main Street economy, grow the domestic economy to meet entitlement needs, tax imports to incentivize domestic production, and control immigration with a border wall.
Donald Trump is the only candidate who holds those views; he’s essentially a third-party unto himself, so what is there to debate?
Not like it will even matter
Without Trump at the RNC debates, they will only gather a biden sized foursome.
Yeah. What a Shame (snicker snicker tee hee hee)
I’ve modified George Carlin’s famous statement for accuracy:
“There’s lots of little clubs in a hierarchy of many clubs with just a few at the top, and we ain’t in any of them.”
I guess they get to know that from being in one of them and benefitting economically – certainly not from any intelligence.
This explains the lock-step of herd-like Cartel.
They gave Pence a bye so the Judge can justify that Trump is harassing a legitimate Candidate and toss him in jail!
That would be a serious mistake on the Haitian’s part.
Judges are under political scrutiny, even in DC.
Even Judge Burisma.
“…HaitianJamaican…”You’re right!
But at this point ‘what difference does it make’?
“if a dirt, a dirt”
“A big man ting”
https://www.exploringcaribbean.com/jamaican-slang-phrases/
And from the West Indies….
“Whappen man, you be wet fowl”
https://cguillaumme.caribsurf.net/dictionary.html
Ah the slang of my childhood….I learned more dirty words out of the West Indies than I ever did in English…LOL.
We must find the humor to keep ourselves sane in these trying and perilous times.
Big difference to them, here in South Florida we have a front row seat to the hatred between the different African descendants.
The central Americans follow the same form, they do not work or play together.
The one common thread is they all despise the American African.
Political scrutiny? By who…or whom!
From the other justices and the Supremes…
She can be removed from the case if her political prejudice comes shining through.
She has many conflicts of interest in this case.
Removed by who?
The Appeals Court and/or the Supreme Court.
That’s nice, but in the meantime, president Trump is subjected
to harsh treatment in jail/prison.
Witness Pampering.
DING, DING YOU GET THE PRIZE for TONIGHT !
There’s a blast from the past.
Pence is also a “witness” let’s not forget. She could drop the hammer on pdjt for witness intimidation.
Without President Trump on stage no one is going to watch this CLOWN SHOW.
Fox better hope and pray that the Clown Show is over by 10pm eastern or they will lose the Gutfeld ratings for that time slot and drop even further than they are now in the ratings game. His nightly replay pulls as much or more than the other networks, combined. Maybe Faux can beam their cable signal to all their watchers in the Middle East and China, they always get a good laugh when this collection of losers and has beens try and steal DJT thunder.
They’ll hire actors, or give out Olive Garden gift certificates.
But will they have big circles to show them where to sit?
…and Fox will have ratings similar to a Keith Olbermann appearance on MSNBC.
For no special reason (or proof) I suspect at least several of the “qualified” GOPe candidates are cheating………
Ya think?
“This pump stops counting forward at 3 a.m..”
ps; the reason why Pence volunteered that he had Classified Documents as VP and was cleared of any wrongdoing by the Gestapo?
A: He was giving Biden cover.
Just looking at that picture of Judus makes me angry. Besides being a phoney rino, there are none worse from my perspective than those who attempt to flaunt their spirituality while being a dishonest backstabbing piece of human trash.
They lack the guts or the brute honesty to stick a gun in your face like a Stalin or Castro.
But installing their own Puppet over the People’s Choice makes them tyrants just as well.
And a closet gender uncertain person as well to spite GOD’s law with his hypocritical spirituality.
Note his very expensive shiny red pick up truck! Lots a money Mike from tht stupid nothing book! But he is just fine……slap on the back from turtle
Amen Amin!!
Frankly, Pence “is not my concern”.
“giving Biden cover” – only partially. Biden had classified documents from when he was a Senator.
If those two hooked up, would the make an elekey or a donkephant?
Jackassaphant
That includes you mtg and your boyfriend Kevin.
I think the rules were waived for 30pence. Only 40,000 one pence contributions were required.
Anyways it’s going to be a hell of a debate.
Mr. Krispie Kream, you have 3 minutes to tells us why Donald Trump cannot be president.
Mr. 30pence, you have 3 minutes to tells us why Donald Trump cannot be president.
Mr. DeSwampass, you have 3 minutes to tells us why Donald Trump cannot be president.
Ms. Nimrata, you have 3 minutes to tells us why Donald Trump cannot be president.
Mr. Tim “Tool Time” Scott, you have 3 minutes to tells us why Donald Trump cannot be president.
We, at Fox News, “Almost Watched, Most Trusted by the GOPe” thank you for watching.
making a deal with the devil in plain sight.
He’s available to host the event.
The GOP doesn’t deserve or even want Trump, so why should he dirty himself “debating” in a pig pen like that? I’ve already heard all their BS and lies, actually, for the last 35 years and there certainly isn’t anything new. I’ll vote for Trump, even if he’s in jail or they are strapping him into an electric chair. He could do a better job as POTUS posthumously than all of them since Reagan put together. Trump brings peace and prosperity; the others bring wars, death, welfare and world misery!
And it has gotten worse, every four years….at least during my working life.
These people, and I use the term loosely, as they are not possibly human or capable of human compassion…take perverse delite in the demise of the middle class, hard working American….you know, the one who often in good times, lives paycheck to paycheck…never meeting goals, never achieving dreams….because they are always playing catch up. And when trying to step outside the box and do things differently, they are still squashed.
The GOP does not really want us either, they view us as an ATM…
HHhhhmmmm, now who could possibly harbor bitter hatred for people of white, European, Christian heritage, and take pride in deceiving, theft, corrupting, and enslaving, while at the same time claiming to be victims?
I think President Trump should go. He should answer every question exactly the same. “I would like to answer that but the prosecutor might consider it an indictable offense or the judge might see it as contempt. But, of course, the rest of you think that is great don’t you? I am silenced and you can talk. How is that not election interference?”
Or do like he did at the Town Hall
with a pieces of paper and he read his
tweets from J6..😀👏
Only this time read tweets from
others…or NYT or Washpo articles.….
have them all on note cards. Even
make jokes that he doesn’t have
to have pictures on his note cards
like Biden does.
Good suggestions Gypsy and Vibe but the coordinated corruption and no holds barred viciousness against PT is so cumulative and massive that clever tactics that would be useful in reasonable times will not be enough.
They are throwing everything at him and all of these 8 candidates–especially DS–are knowingly aiding these evil efforts by running against him instead of backing him.
“(3) Must sign the RNC’s “Beat Biden pledge” – a commitment to back the eventual Republican nominee.”
This is kinda’ funny since the RNC and FOX both helped install Biden in the first place.
Proverbs 20:23
Differing weights are detestable and offensive to the Lord,
And fraudulent scales are not good.
Didn’t the elites from the DNC, RNC and the press tell us Joe Biden would restore normalcy to our country?
So corruption is normal?
A Presidential debate where none of the candidates standing on the stage are polling above 10% is a total joke.
Sometime before the debate it will be reported as percentages compared only to each other among those that qualified and showed up.
LOL. Exactly. This is like getting to late September and a ball team going .418 is about to win their division and head for the playoffs.
I always loved that picture of President Trump. Shinzo Abe’s expression always made me smile.
They knew.
God rest Abe’s soul..
And bless his widow.
My adopted son works in Japan. He says the people of Japan deeply mourned Abe’s loss.
He exuded soul and decency. Big loss for Japan and the world.
Vjecnaja Pamjat. Memory Eternal. I adored the man.
No way DeShanty has 40,000 unique donors, when >90% of his donations are from big donors. I have such disdain for Roney and her big club cronies.
Big Money buys a lot of small donors.
As I’ve mentioned on the first page, that Burgum guy was trying to give me a twenty if I’d give him a single buck.
I got one of those too, and one from 30P stating he needed 25 more donors! Blocked and reported.
Ron’s unique donors may be in graveyards across America.
That is why the money printers are out to get Trump. He represents national sovereignty. Wherever Presidents or Prime Ministers represent national sovereignty, the money printers and BlackRock are out to get them.
That goes for Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, Viktor Orban in Hungary, Bibi Netanyahu in Israel, Imran Khan in Pakistan, and Lopes Obrador in Mexico. Oh and the candidate most likely to succeed in Ecuador was just assassinated.
In Niger, for example, France has taken the Uranium from the country. 1 out of every 3 bulbs in France is lit by Niger, while 90% of the people of Niger don’t have any electricity.
Victoria Nuland went to Niger, but the military people who just ran a coup did not appear interested in what she had to offer.
The US has a military base in Niger. Their job is to protect Niger for the globalists and against the people of Niger. The French franc which is the legal tender, prevents people from Niger developing any kind of economic foothold in Niger. In other words, this is another African country colonized by a European country and backed by the US military.
The globalists want a New World Order. To that end they used a tactical nuclear device on the Nord Stream Pipeline. A report from scientists just was published which showed this to be the case, based upon seismic activity found as far as Greenland.
See: https://www.globalresearch.ca/bombshell-was-nord-stream-nuked/5828491
The implication is that we are already in a nuclear conflict, but the US is responsible.
The US military used to be a force for good.
Now the DoD is a force for genocide via gene therapy injection to the world. In addition, the current DoD places “white supremacy” higher as a national security threat than any foreign threat. This was arranged by Barack Hussein Obama before he left the White House.
You said a lot and I agree. The Europeans deserve their migrants due to their decades of rape of African countries. We’re not much better. The machinations of the Masters of the Universe have gone too far – they’re continually greedy, demanding more, and reducing our lives to dirt. They asked for this fight….I want to see them get it.
I pray for Donald Trump…I believe truly sent by God to fight the evil.
A dozen centuries of war, pillage, slavery and rapine on the part of those African countries long preceded their later rather brief colonization that gave them tools and skills to take their place on the world stage.
The authors of the Dark Ages have no claim to revenge.
He’s chosen to face down the same party he hopes he can ride to victory. I hope his bigger plan is spreading sunlight, come what may with the ballot counting.
The Rs are finished. I didn’t cause it, I only observe it.
Trump should have aHugh Rally
IN MILWAUKEE or JUST OUTSIDE OF
Surely President Trump will be at his own yuge event, SO big that it can’t be helped but noticed. Can’t you just see the dem staffers looking for some no name university event hall that is miles and miles from a mondo arena that can hold thousands of Maga supporters
Ronna Romney McDaniel is such a damn hapless little fool, maybe too much Botox or lip collagen??? 🥴
She is a fake
inside
and
out.
Fake all the way through.
Should be a curious debate. There are probably some rules we may be able to infer based upon the questions and answers. Will there be an obvious favorite, one the others treat with kid gloves? Will it be Ronbo?
I can’t believe Pence qualified to be in a debate by monkeys, let along by presidential candidates.
Of course he’s qualified.
No one has had more flies land on them!
Like stink on s…… ah never mind.
I predict some of the worst ratings ever . Everybody knows what Trumps about so there’s no reason to attend .
People are figuring out that nobody is acceptable IF they’re part of the DC establishment . Only outsiders are acceptable from now on.
This is nothing but a kind a sick, sadistic Kabuki dance where the RINOs will debate–knowing none of them could ever hope to beat Trump–but when the DC jury finds Trump guilty, and the Obama judge sends PDJT to prison, the RNC will then have Trump taken off enough ballots in enough states to eliminate him from winning.
And don’t think the Republicans aren’t willing to lose big time in order to get rid of Trump. God bless him, even Rush said that right before he died. The Republicans think they are the only game in town, and are fully prepared to lose to do it. But they are also powerful enough (in cooperation with their senior partners, the Democrats) to keep other political parties out.
The RINO motto: “Either vote for us, or you can vote for the Democrats.”
The GOP EXISTS to lose. It’s all theater, even Trump.
No, President Trump is the real deal. No one would voluntarily wade into the attacks and legal jeopard at the hands of a weaponized government unless they truly loved this country. If you can’t tell the difference between MAGA and RINO, you’ve not been paying attention, and maybe were out of the country for his first term.
Looks like you bought the same pair of binoculars I use from time to time. I suspect this coming national election is going to get hard, dirty and deadly in far too many ways.
The Jack Smith prosecution and leftist judge are waiting for Pence to attack Trump on the debate stage and when Trump responds to Pence, they will slap Trump with jail for witness intimidation.
Unfortunately I think a lot of Trump supporters will watch this debate and give FOX much higher ratings than they deserve .
If you’re a true Trump fan DO NOT TUNE IN to this debate !!!!
Wt is a unique donor?
Essentially it means from separate individuals, not one individual donating a dollar forty-thousand times.
As an old analyst who still does research, and for Legislators on occasion, I average almost forty requests for funding daily. Noting that some ask a question, and then dun, I fill out the questions and never send funding. The poor souls that have to read the messages deserve a raise.
J6 Judge Chutkan appears to be as politically corrupt and as personally biased against Trump as any Judge could be given her past condemnations of him during sentencing of J6 trespassers. But of course, she was chosen at random. The Dems would be rioting in the streets with impunity if it was Biden being railroaded in this same way but most “Republicans” are mute and the abuse continues unabated as usual.
If P Trump participates in the RINO controlled debate and argues strongly against (J6 Witness) Pence (or another witness turncoat that is attacking him), Chutkan will likely charge P Trump with witness tampering and have him jailed. She appears to be spiteful enough to do so and hoping to gain fame on the left. (more accurately infamy). Sundance covered the reasons for the con man Bankman-Fried’s imprisoning due to “witness tampering” as a precursor to doing it to PT. The judge and corrupt Dems are cornering him.
Chutkan—”There are limits, regardless of what is going on in, I hate to say it, his day job. This is a criminal case. The need for this criminal case to proceed in the normal order and protect witnesses and integrity of the process means there are going to be limits on the defendant’s speech.” – the Judge said arguing the First Amendment is “not absolute.”
DO it then
Instead of watching the so-called debate, I’d rather see Tucker Carlson host a fireside chat with PDJT and perhaps Kari Lake.
This last statement sums it up:
Donald Trump is the only candidate who holds those views; he’s essentially a third-party unto himself, so what is there to debate?
‘Somehow, Mike (Not My Concern) Pence found 40,000 donors and 200 per state’
Somehow Branden got “81 Million votes”
I’m not surprised Pence found enough donors. The Koch Brothers promised him big money if he backstabbed Trump
Ramaswampy is probably the only one that actually qualified of the seven losers. The other 6 will be there to plump up their preferred RNC candidate, da meatball. Snoozefest.
Whereas Ramaswampy himself wants to be a Meatball
I’ve always agreed with Sundance’s analysis of the money/power dynamic within the RNC/DNC uniparty construct. The GOPe, because of its obsession with accumulating money, sees itself as superior to its voting base. Rather than productively focus on a nationalistic view of money growth that includes the base (like Trump), they focus on a limited/elitist view of money acquisition. Service OF self instead of BEFORE self, naturally.
The part of the analysis that left unsaid has to do with the abject stupidity of these old guard government parasites. We know the left hungers for power to advance their ideology. The GOPe hungers for money to advance…what, exactly? Absolutely nothing. It’s all clock management— make the gravy train last as long as possible, nothing more. Status quo vs transformation. Who ultimately wins that? That’s being answered for us on a daily basis. Delay the inevitable they know must result from their complicity in selling out the nation.
The part that I always come back to is what do they think will happen when the country goes full-on Marxist/Communist/Totalitarian dictatorship in large part because of their greed? Do they really think that kind of a leftist government will do them a solid and let them keep their ill-gotten gains? That their generational wealth created across decades of “public service” will be held sacred and left alone? Yeah, right. Day one, those fortunes will be completed confiscated, they and their families will be imprisoned—and no one will bat an eye.
These are the people selling out America—our way of life. And they’re too blinded by their greed to see that they’re selling out their own at the same time.
If you’ve followed the Runt influencers on the Dead Bird App you’ll notice what Sundance has observed, those folks are as contemptuous towards us as any Leftists, just as vile and mean too, but they are off the scale haughty, our betters by a light year.
That’s who they are. Sundance’s descriptions of them as crustless triangle cucumber sandwich eating lunch selfie Tweeting Country Club types is not in the least an exaggeration.
They simply don’t care about us, we are below them, the Country is below them; they will survive and prosper because they have more money than us and are our superiors, it is us who will suffer, and they who will not care that we do.
They are blinded to their vulnerability to the tyranny aborning, because like the Leftist subversives and terrorists that destroy our society to bring Socialism about, they think they will be at the top, in charge, appreciated for their role in enabling the transition to tyranny, and neither group of useful idiots have the intelligence to see the scenario through, to their own elimination.
I think the same of middle class people that vote Democrat, (suburban mom types, etc). What do they think is going to happen to them when totalitarians rule? They’re special? No way. They are going to be eating bugs and liking it along with everyone else. I really wish people would see but they have scales on their eyes.
Even full on communists have to have the support of the people. The GOPe will still be useful keeping a certain percentage of their base pacified.
I don’t believe for one second that these candidates have 40,000 unique donors.
Debate, ha.
Just to be clear, is isn’t a “debate”. It is a moderated Q&A, with a bunch of B-types parading as A-types and following either a script or the commands of the host, or both. Such people are not leaders, they are contestants in a selection process.
Trump should not for a second entertain joining the fake debates. Rather, he should invite the strongest of the bunch to a chat in a quiet room with two chairs and engage in a conversation. Out of that conversation would come whatever each desires that the other and the audience should hear. To the degree that they agree, so good. To the degree that they disagree, on with the debate.
The requirements to be on stage at the debate are so low they are only one small level above having a pulse.
Presidential Candidate Puppet Show participants sought, pulse required . . .
Aw, C’mon man, give a corpse a break!
Once rigor mortis has passed corpses can be quite pliable.
Typically preferred for supporting roles though.
Like voting and census reporting.
Trump and the others are like IBM and the Seven Dwarfs were in the 1970s to 1980s.
I pray the media doesn’t use Trump’s plus sized ego to bait him into agreeing to the debate where Bret Baier will Chris Wallace him as per Paul Ryan’s instructions. THEY are fighting like the third monkey on the ark’s ramp because their fortunes are at stake.
Their dark revolution is at stake.
Pence getting 40k donors is just another version of Biden getting 81mil votes.
I can’t imagine would watch such an event, even if it were not on FoxNews.
Just say no. Do not sign the pledge and do not debate. No need.
Pence is a crucial witness for Trump. Somebody found some signatures for him. I smell a bad deal.
President Trump has always been who he is, constant in beliefs and very aware of what corruption there has always been over the years; humble about his abilities in uncharted waters with the honest remarks that you never really know; coupled with an innate knowledge he can do more than well. So many other things – one of these flashback videos is as precious as the last or next one.
So true that “Palm Beach will accept almost anything if it’s got enough money, but somehow it will not accept Donald Trump”
“I believe I’m portrayed as a rougher product than I actually am”
, in spite of his ‘arrogance’
The media and the politicians loved him, until he ran. President Trump knew – the day they came down the escalator he said to his son : Now we will know who our friends really are”
Trump should not participate in any debates of any kind — ANY — either party or general. None. There is nothing to be gained. He should instead continue his rallies and subject any debates that do take place to scorn and ridicule. Destroy their legitimacy and credibility.
100% agree. No reason for PDJT to engage with any of the Lilliputians so they can elevate themselves at his expense. They are to be ignored, and in the cases of Judas and the Fat Pig, to be mocked.
So true and upfront honest : Same and some more things have worsened.
Donald Trump: “I don’t want to be president” – entire 1987 CNN interview (Larry King Live)
May 9, 2016
In a September 2, 1987, interview with CNN’s Larry King, Donald Trump says he has no interest in being president and explains why he took out an ad ripping the George H.W. Bush administration.
We would be forced to watch the debate if Trump decided to attend. I sure hope he doesn’t put us through that. I already intensely dislike these people. No need to add any more fuel to that fire.
Timing would be important, Sundance needs to go on Joe Rogan’s podcast. There’s nobody better to explain in terms his audience would understand what has happened to the American political system. I mean, if you’re gonna go all kamikaze anyway (you haven’t told us how yet, btw), why not give a Big Reveal on Rogan’s podcast first. Rogan’s been sounding primed for it.
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On one hand, I think he should because he is great at debating and exposing the other candidates real desires and aspirations. On the other hand…he shouldn’t…and I hope he doesn’t. No to Fox, no to a circus atmosphere in which the intent is to make him the circus monkey. He doesn’t need the exposure. He is doing just fine doing rallies and he can do one on one’s with serious journalists/reporters.
President DJ Trump 2024
President Trump must realize there’s little upside to his campaign by participating in this clown show. He’s been ambushed too many times by these same SOB’s in this type of forum. IMO President Trump will get as many headlines by NOT being there as he would by being there. The payoff comes when he’s asked why he wasn’t there. Stand back for that answer. It could be epic.
I won’t be watching if Trump is not in the debate. No need to.