The nature of our politically corrupt justice system takes on new clarity today as a jury in New York City decided President Trump did not rape E. Jean Carroll, the crazy moonbat funded by political operatives, but President Trump did defame her in his denial of the accusation. Thus, the jury awards damages to the false accuser, while finding the accused not guilty.
Presumably the position of the jury was that something ‘may have happened‘ because this was not a criminal trial outcome which would be based on “beyond a reasonable doubt” as the standard. Instead, this verdict was based on the possibility that something ‘may have happened,’ albeit not proven, and President Donald Trump was defamatory toward the accuser in his strong denials of the accusation.
The jury awarded $2million in compensatory damages and $20,000 in punitive damages for the battery allegation. The jury awarded $1 million in compensatory damages for the defamation and $1.7million for the repair of her reputation. They awarded another $280,000 in punitive damages for the defamation. (read more)
Keep in mind that New York wrote a new law specifically to provide E Jean Carroll a pathway to file a lawsuit over the allegation that something might have happened sometime in the past, though the accuser could not identify what year President Trump assaulted her. The accuser, a woman of notoriously odd behavior and remarkably unstable mindset, was funded by billionaire LinkedIn founder and very vocal Trump critic, Reid Hoffman.
New York created the new law for Ms. Carroll, Reid Hoffman paid for the legal costs, and Ms. Carroll made her sketchy accusations of something, from sometime, that wasn’t certain to have happened. There were no witnesses to the claimed events, there was no evidence the event took place, there was nothing to indicate Ms. Carroll or Mr. Trump were even in the same place at the same time.
However, the judge in the case permitted the presentation of possibility, then blocked President Trump from speaking about the case, and then instructed the jury to consider that Ms Carroll’s claims may have indeed taken place, at some point – although no evidence exists and no one knows when, not even Ms Carroll.
In any other situation this case would have been thrown out of court for being ridiculous. However, in the modern era where justice is metered by regional public opinion that is based on Lawfare and political motivation, we get this situation. President Trump responded below:
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Remember this judge’s name for future reference.
And that will do what? just make us more aware of how crooked our justice system now is.
You do know how to tie a rope knot
He’s a well-known judge btw
Maybe in NY but in Illinois we have never heard of him or care about him .
District Judge Lewis Kaplan, Manhattan Federal Court.
Thanks, Scarlet, I didn’t know. But I do know that Jesus Christ is the only answer!
This judge officiated at the wedding of the lawyer of the woman who was accusing Trump!
No conflict of interest there…right??!!🙄
I read Trump’s videotaped deposition. He was his true self, an arrogant narcissistic moron. No wonder his lawyers didn’t want the jury to see him in person. His videotaped deposition’s arrogance was enough for the jury to want to punish him. All my clients are successful businessmen. All feel the same about federal government overreach. Any and all of them elected President would have pushed for policies similar to Trump’s, as well whomever is the Republicans’ nominee. The democrats have constricted themselves enough to just becoming the Marxist Public Sector Workers’ Party.
There should have never even been a deposition for this bogus case.
That critical point seems lost to you.
Case should have been dismissed on Summary Judgement.
Do you actually think if Trump Showed up as mother teresa for this trial…that something else would have happened?
DO YOU?
Of course not. But that doesn’t mean he has to aid the prosecution by making sophomoric errors.
HE did NOTHING to hurt his case, further.
The error is charging a guy with a crime that may not happened ,witnessed by nobody , and not known what year it happened or did not happen .
I listened to most of Trump’s testimony and thought the opposite.
She is lying, and she had no evidence. Couldn’t even cite a year. It’s also absurd to believe that a famous person, like Trump, could even go into BG dept store unseen and then into a ladies dressing room. It was an insane accusation. Truly.
No woman should be permitted to accuse any man of rape or assault this many decades after the alleged act with NO evidence.
I guess I should go through my photos, looking for a guy I met at a party 30 years ago, who is now rich, and accuse him of raping me in a department store LADIES dressing room. Looks like a great way to make/steal $5 million.
Every mother of sons should be outraged and scared.
Trump must appeal. This is a terrible precedent to set.
Every man, with any money, should also be scared.
When women started (and in reality it was men) the ridiculous women’s liberation and women’s rights they should have been told there would be less rights and less protection attached to that movement.
Very odd that a woman can put on clothes that reveal or accentuate body parts and they complain they are seen as just sex objects. They fight for abortion, for birth control and want to get drunk and hang around with drunk men but see no obligations of their own to take responsibility for the danger they agree to.
Womens rights equals more free sex for men, more money for taxes, more broken homes, more vulnerable children, less freedoms for women unless…………….you want to sleep with multiple men and women, then it’s freedom to be promiscuous. It was never about helping women. Since when is a bra anything but underwear to achieve comfort? Since women’s liberation. Or when was sex without support from men a good idea?
In the place God put women they are honored with the greatest honor, child bearing and family, more than a conqueror. Now it’s a curse to be a mom.
When women started…the ridiculous women’s liberation and women’s rights they should have been told there would be less rights and less protection attached to that movement.
They were, but few women listened. I was one who did.
They KNEW that and most women originally cherished that protection, knowing full well their own part DID pull their weight in the relationship. They took the product of his work and made the house a home and made good food for the table from his crops, and they took very good care of the man so he could take good care of the bringing Provision. It was a healthy COMPLEMENTARY Relationship.
“Complementary” is NOT the same as “Complimentary”.
It’s a Subtle difference in Spelling – but it is a Major Difference in Definition.
Words MEAN something.
…” they should have been told there would be less rights and less protection attached to that movement.”
Just look at the whole ” we can’t define what a woman is” movement now. Women now have no rights when men decide they want to use the same restrooms, participate in the same sports, etc. etc. They are reaping their whirlwind.
Amen!
Kristin Blasey Ford. If you are a demo-rat you can lie with abandon and set people up that do not have the same views as you. They are evil witches and will get their just due at some point. Karma is a bitch.
Karma is a Bitch whoring DEMON. All demons do is just pure Evil. Period. Daniel 5.
READ the HANDWRITING on the Wall.
LORD God Jehovah Is JUSTICE and HE WILL BRING IT.
IT Is HARVEST! And the Harvest is ALWAYS True to the Seed that was Deliberately Planted.
Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so is what some people see as ‘arrogance, narcissism, and moronic’ the unbiased thinker knows is HONESTY.
Because Trump speaks with confidence, the progressive left, construe that as arrogance. Because he recounts many of the great things he accomplished for the nation as President, the never-Trumper’s mislabel it as narcissism. Sometimes he does not use the royal ”we”, but uses ‘‘I”. And the term ”moronic” is totally an insult as – ”Moron is a term once used in psychology and psychiatry to denote mild intellectual disability. The term was closely tied with the American eugenics movement. Once the term became popularized, it fell out of use by the psychological community, as it was used more commonly as an insult than as a psychological term. It is similar to imbecile and idiot.” President Trump has more wits about him than the average American Democrat.
You are deranged, judgmental, and apparently oblivious to the constant Lawfare barrage of abuse inflicted on this man since he stuck his toe in the political arena.
No one has ever been singled out for this incessant onslaught of bs investigations and attacks.
So peddle you’re crap to an audience who wants to hear more 💩!
Go post elsewhere!
MAGA 💩
You sir…are the moron! Your so called clients that are all so called successful businessmen…that if elected would have brought forth and done the same thing as Trump. Really? If they really feel the way you say…where are they? And where are YOU? There is only ONE MAN taking the arrows for us…and it’s not you or your so called clients who you want us to think would do what Trump has done. But yet…they are no where to be seen or heard…just like you. Maybe you are really…just a troll!!! Id like to see you or your friends go through what this man has gone through…and knows of more he will go through for standing up for America…you and your friends would be heard from never again…cowering away scared to face the enemy.
YES AND AMEN! Thank you for saying this! Selah! Amen.
I thought he was honest and funny and that his scornful response to the accusations was not only appropriate but also effective.
The Left hates to be laughed at.
We need to remember that when combating them.
Well another idiot with blinders on. I will take arrogant over brain dead idiot anyday. The arrogant one got things done, our country was thriving, the border was in check, the rest of the world respected us,our military was strong plus more, the brain dead idiot has on the brink of WW111, we are nearly in a depression, the world is laughing at us, our military is now a bunch of woke trans gender WHATEVER they are, our borders are wide open to rapists, murderers,drug cartels plus we will support them forever, while our vets get nothing, our kids are brainwashed, plus much more. So I will take arrogance anyday. Wake up jerk
Your TDS is blocking your rational thought.
Reread the article – The NY legislature, which is super majority Democrat, passed a unique law just so the wacko womens claim could move forward in a NY court, i.e. the NY legislature targeted Trump. Trump knew all this of course, so the deposition was basically part of a BS legal process. Trump was going to be convicted no matter what he said or did by a partisan judge and jury. Welcome to the kangaroo courts of NY.
I doubt PDT is aware of how he comes off. When he stated over and over again that Carroll wasn’t his type he doesn’t realize that such a response only instills in the minds of the jury that is
If she were his type then, yes, maybe he would rape her. Of course, this case is beyond ridiculous, but Trump, once again, did not prepare for this depo and shouldn’t have responded that way. While he came off as genuine, he also came off as indifferent. Most anyone being wrongly accused of rape would not appear indifferent. I suspect he’s aloof and understandably so given the history of how he’s been attacked. And of course, as usual, he made the same repetitive statements over and over.
Trump thinks the whole deal is stupid and so does America .
Get lost, clown.
So why didn’t all your clients run for the office of the Presidency, win, and proceed to push “for policies similar to Trump’?
How did it rank with Pelosi tearing up the Stat of the Union Address?
I’ll sure take substance over style any day of the week.
Trump a moron? Bob, get ahold of yourself and stop spitting venom.
I loved the way he talked . Your so called successful businessmen have not stepped up to the plate and done anything for America but just for themselves . trump has worked for us .Any jury that uses personality instead of the law needs to be shot at sunrise .
Everytime the moonbat democrats and their pathetic, gutless weasel and outright stupid followers attack and smear Trump, he should wear it as a badge of honor. These cretinous losers have the mindset of kindergartners, and no one who matters listens to any of their drivel. New York and California, in particular, are littered with these clueless clowns, and there is no wonder why their states are sliding into Gomorroh.
And these dumbassed brainwashed leftists in NYC and LA will be the first nuked by our enemies and they will still support BHO, uh I mean Biden.
( I mean, they’ll all be dead, if the death shot doesn’t take them out first, if they’re nuked so they won’t be supporting anyone, technically.)
I think these people think the nukes will by pass them, their families etc and they will not get targeted that.
Let the nukes fly just as long as i get to see the mushroom cloud over DC i will be fine .
Agree they did this to Jesus Trump is not Jesus but he LOVES OUR CONTRY the other rinos and liberals hate what americas contitution stand for and will do anything they can to distoy us. So sd for our children ang grand achildren and their offspring they will not be free as we were and are lsoing due to this bable.
Death by a thousand cuts.
Yes, that’s what they are doing.
The MSM is using the word “baggage” but what is so terrifying is that its all manufactured. All of it. All these investigations and accusations are lies.
It’s stunning and truly scary.
What a hideous jury and judge. He simply must appeal. We cannot permit such a horrific precedent to be set. ANY man can have his life destroyed.
What the, the uniparty and their MSM hacks, fail to understand: we don’t care about “baggage.” I know I don’t. We all have so called “baggage.” And when that baggage is manufactured by people who hate you (in this case Trump) then is it really baggage? No. And we don’t care.
I care that Trump pushed for policies that made America great again. That’s it. He pushed for polices and tax code that helped me. He pushed for a closed border that helps me. And he speaks his mind- I don’t have to listen to him play euphemism games to sell his BS to fool morons.
People like Barry (is that Obama?) don’t get it. And never will.
You’re right–I don’t either. I love how he isn’t wordy, just says what he means, there’s no guessing.
Hopefully a sane judge will hear the appeal and throw this nonsense in the garbage where it belongs. Nonetheless, proclaiming the accuser was not his type did not help Trump.
They’ll just continue to shop around until they find another insane Judge to reverse any appeal
The only court higher than the Second Circuit Court of Appeals is the Supreme Court.
Yes, I wish he’d not said that about her not being his type. 🙄
That’s the “egotistical narcissist” part of Trump’s personality that makes him appear to be such a buffoon. I wouldn’t call him a moron, but certainly point out his inability to not stick his foot in his mouth.
As noted above, he has stood strong against an insane onslaught from the Communist left. Ever since he entered the political ring. His ability to do so is both admirable and astonishing. I don’t know of anybody else that could, or would, withstand it all.
But, to ignore his obvious character flaws serves no good purpose. He may be the one person that can turn this country around, but I personally don’t believe he can. I don’t believe any man can. Not Trump, or anyone else, can shoulder the responsibility that is ours and ours alone.
Trump is his own worst enemy, as we are ours.
My money is on President Trump – mean tweets and all!
No one is ignoring his obvious character flaws and you need to chill out. There is nothing wrong with him saying she isn’t his type. The fact you are writing this long soliloquy on why saying that is awful says more about you than him. Focus on the seriousness of the false claim of rape please. That is actually important.
Probably a “nice” way of saying, “She’s disgusting and I would never have anything to do with that horrible lunatic!”
Yeah, after years of abuse and false accusations President Trump should not be allowed to make any kind of off the cuff remarks because who might pick them up and and try to make something of them. It seems even his friends can’t cut him some slack.
I thought it was funny and true .
So off the cuff remarks are verboten and won’t help against made up accusations without any merit. Good to know. Maybe you should pass that on to Trump’s lawyers.
If that is what she was wearing 23 years ago and she saved the clothing, where is the DNA evidence, like Monica Lewinsky’s infamous blue dress? What a crock.
What women that you know of would keep an entire outfit for 23 years? One or two absolute favourite pieces, in the hopes that she might be able to wear them in the future perhaps, but an entire outfit?
Doesn’t pass the smell test (and the stench from this particular specimen would be worse than being downwind of Nairobi’s landfill after rainy season).
Stalin would be proud.
She’s a 100% LIAR! NY is nothing but a corrupt place. It’s literally going to hell!
She may not be, but evidence should rule the day, and she has none whatsoever
Oh yes, she IS lying. Trump has always been careful, his entire life, to protect his BUSINESS.
He would NEVER rape or assault a woman in a public place– a department store ladies dressing room. Men, including husbands w/their wives, do not go into department store ladies dressing rooms, certainly not in the 90s or before. It just wasn’t done.
Not only that but … MOST dept store dressing rooms have CAMERAs. IF rich and famous Trump were captured by security on camera having s– with any woman, that video would have saved and used LONG AGO to blackmail Trump.
She is lying.
If only Trump would have come out and said that….
At the time Stormy Daniels was seeking a payout.
New York wrote a new law specifically to provide E Jean Carroll a pathway to file a lawsuit over the allegation that something might have happened sometime in the past. Sounds like a bill of attainder. So, DJT needs Alan Dershowitz for an appeal.
Yes, bill of attainder.
The Adult Survivors Act was written specifically for Carroll, but others may use it, 1 time per person, in the 1 year the law will be viable. It throws out the statute of limitations for sex crimes brought to civil court. It is highly similar in nature to what California did for sex crime criminal prosecution back in 1994. Retroactive liability and penalization. This is ex post facto and that’s absolutely not allowed. SCOTUS threw out CA’s law for that reason in the Stogner v California case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stogner_v._California
When Hochul signed the Act, NY legislators were crowing about how it threw away the time limits.
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-signs-adult-survivors-act
Its the Death Cult of Big Cities, so fun to watch the Libtards destoy themselves. I will enjoy another Yuengling and smile!
Hmmm
Michael Tracey
So to wrap up, even under a “preponderance of the evidence” standard — recall, vastly lower than “beyond a reasonable doubt” — the jury ruled against the rape claim and was silent on the only other claim that would have entailed unlawful touching of intimate bodily areas
The only “battery” threshold for which the jury ruled in favor of Carroll was the one where they were given near-infinite latitude (as requested by Carroll lawyers) to make a “subjective” determination about actions which the judge said could include a “gentle kiss on the cheek”
If this is going to be portrayed as legal vindication of a rape accusation, even though it’s the opposite, the burden of proof has gotten so low that anyone who gives “a gentle kiss on the cheek” that’s later claimed to have been “unwanted” could be portrayed as a proven rapist.
And just to be clear, here is the central claim Carroll made against Trump. The jury did *not* validate this claim in the slightest — they did the opposite. Absurd for the media to portray it as anything else
Who is Michael Tracy and how is this coming out?
British-American journalist on Twitter; been around a long time. These are excerpts from an excellent article posted on Revolver News: E. Jean Carroll verdict means a peck on the cheek is sexual abuse…
Cannot find the article on Revolver News (and I am a regular reader there…)
Why would they have removed it?
Nothing on Michael Tracy’s Twitter feed either that I can find…..
Wait, found it. (I would delete my two most recent comments here but there is no process for such.)
Apologies.
I am glad you found it. Sometimes it does seem the articles move around, drop down or do drop off the Revolver News page for awhile.
It is there Mimi. Scroll down on Revolver.news
An actual journalist as opposed to the alleged ones most people are aware of.
He used to be on the young turks but the tyranny of the left has opened his eyes. He would probably say he is still a classical liberal.
I feel that the lady is very upset that she wasn’t raped by Trump.
It was a slap in the face to her.
And she finds rape sexy. As well as Brad Pitt (and Trump). Her social media is full of posts talking dirty about Pitt’s and Trump’s genitals. There’s a reason her lawyer had her remove her social media.
So now we can go to trial on one charge and then be found guilty of something else?
Something is wrong with this picture.
The bulk of the fine (the jury findings are available on twitter from a lawyer who obtained them from the legal subscription site Pacer.)
S2,700,000 is for injury and reputational damage for a social media post on 12th October 2022 when he posted “not my type” as she still insists she is his type and that it was a sexual insult/assault, several people posted abusive posts to her on twitter and she blames Trump for legal reasons.
He was fined a mere $20,000 for a punitive penalty for the post. The rest are for similar comments made by him, so “not my type” is now viewed as abusive. the legal version of sexual abuse and battery includes written and spoken word, now apparently in the legal world. Probably introduced to protect the trannies.
Big letter B.
Big letter S.
💕🙏🇺🇸 We love you, Donald Trump! 💕🙏🇺🇸
🇺🇸We stand with you!!!🇺🇸
This won’t end until Republican jurisdictions start doing the same thing to prominent leftists. Tit for tat works.
It’s Tip for Tap
Hold them to their own rules.
A peck on the cheek from the occupier of the White House will soon turn into numerous filings of rape!
Who defamed who?
From the National Pulse article (link below):
(1) Carroll’s Facebook account includes her fantasies of having sex with President Trump
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(2) Her accusation bears a striking resemblance to a 2012 Law and Order episode –including the same location ..…….”the very same Bergdorf Goodman department store dressing rooms she claims the former President used in an attack on her”
(3) She was a fan of Law and Order and The Apprentice.
(4) Empty store, no staff, unlocked dressing room at odds with normal operation of this particular store:
“For example, she conceded that her description of an entire floor of the famous department store as totally deserted of both customers and staff conflicts with the fact that “99 per cent of the time, you will have an attendant in Bergdorf’s”, as does her claim that “a dressing-room door was open.”
“In Bergdorf’s dressing rooms, doors are usually locked until a client wants to try something on,” she accepted.”
(5) And who funded her litigation against President Trump? Reid Hoffman, a Democrat billionaire who also funded the defense of Fusion GPS (Steele Dossier).
(6) Carroll claimed she didn’t know when the rape happened which effectively denied the defense:
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The judge apparently blocked the defense from sharing key information with the jury, so hopefully that will come up in appeal.
Hoping other Treepers will help correct the falsehoods behind this smear campaign to label President Trump as a rapist:
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—> First President Trump is smeared by Stormy Daniels (who later admitted on camera and in writing it had been a lie).
https://nypost.com/2018/01/30/stormy-daniels-now-denies-ever-having-an-affair-with-trump/
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—->Then President Trump is smeared by a crazy lady and politically driven court with a story that falls apart at quick glance.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/05/03/e-jean-carroll-keeps-calling-rape-sexy-law-and-order/
As someone pointed out above- this should never have made it past summary. The lack of details by Carrol should of had this thrown out long ago.
But it made it past summary because the Judge is a political activist not a serious judge of law.
Can one of you out there who is a lawyer explain to me why this law and its application is not, on the face of it, ex post facto and therefore illegal under the Federal Constitution?
it is. changing the statute of limitations for some crime going forward is legitimate. changing them for things that happened in the past is ex post facto. See Stogner v California, where SCOTUS said exactly that about a CA law that did away with the statute of limitations for sex crimes. CA’s law was for criminal prosecution. NY’s is for civil prosecution. Ethically identical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stogner_v._California
We are at peak clownworld. Mobs can move freely about committing serious assaults while destroying everything in sight with no legal consequence. Meanwhile an implausible allegation from decades ago by a leftist with no specific date can be made and taken seriously by the “justice system.” Then when the accused vigorously denies the charge he becomes guilty of defamation.
What a country!!
She walked out of court holding hands with her lawyer, Roberta. Are they lesbians?
Certainly the lawyer is a lesbian
That this could continue, and be given ANY credibility, shows that there is NO uniform set of laws in this country.
This is the problem with any government, democracy included.
People with power never want less power.
The income tax is the worst theft in history. No wonder it was one of Karl Marx’s 10 platform points in the Communist Manifesto.
How can he be found quilty of defaming her, she is a liar, he was innocent on rape charge but cannot say that,yet she can defame him.
Hilarius! This LYING WOMAN writes a book and uses a billionaire to get Trump prosecuted for something that never happened is telling us she was defamed!?!?!?!? Who is the DEFAMER HERE? Trump will eventually SUE her ass off and win.
If anyone involved in this idiotic fiasco to “get Trump” has morals they would be embarrassed. They don’t so they aren’t
This doesn’t make any sense- if the jury found he did NOT rape her, how could he defame her by denying he raped her?
show knows what she was wearing but can not give you a date when this did not occur.
Yep, do not pay it. Sue the judge now.
This woman has a pair of craziest eyes. She gives me the creeps.
This woman and NYC make me feel less safe in America.
It is bad enough these people contribute the to the mugging of Americans on the street, and by the government.
Being mugged in the court room so pathetically, this seems like neo-Soviet show trials, NY style.
Apology in advance of this is redundant… I did not read through half-a-thousand comments…
IMO the Babylon Bee has a perfect solution
{ Celebs · May 10, 2023 · 60 Trump Announces He Will Pay $5M Judgment In Collectible NFT Trading Cards MAR-A-LAGO, FL — After a judge ruled Trump liable in the sexual abuse and defamation case brought by E. Jean Carroll, the former President responded… }
It could have happened in one of the Marvel Comics multiverses. Probably the one where Joe doesn’t sniff kids and has hot dog fingers.
I tho’t this alleged rape was supposed to have taken place in the Mile High Club bathroom?
For the record this crazy lady got so hot and bothered that day that she assaulted me sexually. Prove it didn’t happen.
In fact I thought about having two front doors installed because of it!!!
BOOM!!!
(Mic drop)