If you start from the baseline that everything in federal U.S. politics is a construct to be managed by the financial stakeholders who ultimately control all policy, then things make more sense. Through this prism you can spot the proactive moves, positions and predictable patterns organized by those in control – what has previously been labeled as “The Big Club.”
“Moving Florida Governor Ron DeSantis into position for 2024, with careful branding and management, is one large Republican Club operation done with forethought and intent.”
There are obviously trillions at stake, and people are now more awake to how that matters in the bigger picture of controlled corporate politics. Remember, the RNC and DNC are private corporations, essentially private clubs, who operate to the benefit of the major donor membership.
The major club donors are those who have vested interests in domestic or multinational political policy; therefore, the controlling elements of each private corporation are the primary stakeholders in the outcome of the policy the political clubs create through selected candidates. The Wall St billionaires, hedge funds, multinational corporations etc, essentially make investments by trying to control outcomes.
At its core, the financial outcomes of policy are the motives of the donor investments. This simple truth needs constant reminders, because it’s not a conspiracy to see the planning, organization and manipulation that goes into club politics. In this reference, the GOP club.
Just as Big Tech is in the targeting business to remove users and rebellious voices adverse to their ideological interests, so too does the Big Republican Club carry the same motive and intent. The financial people associated with Republican politics are ruthless, and their tentacles are everywhere. In the 2016 election they were caught off-guard, negatively impacted by the America First policies of Donald Trump, and now in 2024 taking additional steps, aggressive steps, to ensure a tighter control system.
Big Con is just as destructive as Big Tech, as both are motivated by the same dynamic. In 2024,we are going to see a far more violent, in the desperate sense of the word, response from Big Con. When the people inside the GOPe club have their money threatened, they get extremely brutal. No one attacks the Republican base voter with more vitriol than the Republicans who control the club system.
Not enough people understand this dynamic, and too few MAGA ‘America First’ voices realize the scale of how severely the Republican Club hates them.
The Republican Club organizes their plan, and they will seek to destroy anyone and anything that gets in their way. There are trillions at stake, and multiple billions inside those trillions are directly in the controlling bank accounts of the Republican Club operators.
When you find yourself facing a revelation and saying, ‘they would never do that,’ pause for a moment and recognize how severe the control issue is from their side of the dynamic. Yes, they would do that. They would do anything and everything.
This acceptance, albeit challenging to comprehend in scope and scale, is the accurate backdrop to review all of the groundwork and money, the Republican Big Club operators put into pre-planning and Machiavellian schemes. Their #1 goal is control.
The scale of their intent is also the accurate backdrop to view moves they have previously made, moves they are making, and moves they have yet to make. It is through this prism that you can see the scale of proactive effort the Republican Club operators have put into their Ron DeSantis operation.
Going all the way back to December 2021, when DeSantis handler Christina Pushaw set about the first steps of inviting conservative influencers into the DeSantis orbit in Florida, a meeting that took place on January 6, 2022, nothing from that moment to this was organic or unplanned.
Moving Florida Governor Ron DeSantis into position for 2024 with careful branding and management, is one large Republican Club operation done with forethought and intent. Everything is managed, scripted and executed according to a long-term plan.
The DeSantis management and branding team even created a private digital media operation called Florida’s Voice, specifically to promote Ron DeSantis in the state [SEE HERE]. They push out daily pro-DeSantis media articles to feed the conscripted influencers. If you notice, there is a DeSantis communication strategy similar to what we see coming through the State Dept and Ukraine, it’s not accidental. That’s what Pushaw was hired to do.
Through the Florida Voice outlet a promotional announcement is made on behalf of Ron DeSantis. The DeSantis team is releasing the promotional book on February 28th, and the principle will travel to Texas, California, Alabama and several other states as part of the “book tour” which is really the campaign for 2024 without having to admit it’s the campaign for 2024. [READ MORE HERE]
You see, the problem the DeSantis people have in the long-term planning, is the need to hide how long they have planned this out.
Once people become aware the DeSantis in ’24 operation has been planned since 2021, all of the ‘grassroots’ organic patina disappears, and people will recognize it’s astroturf.
2) Additionally, this is the single best opportunity to wipe out an entire generation of fake conservatives, controlled Wall Street alt media, and ancillary professional grifters.
It's an amazing opportunity to steer the affluent chasers into perpetual irrelevance. pic.twitter.com/fbGXsDwnth
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 8, 2023
4) Base voters suspected it with Bush, then McCain…
Base voters really suspected it with Romney…
Base voters realized the details of how they do it with Jeb…
Now, thanks to DeSantis, base voters will see just how conniving and Machiavellian the Big Club is.
Again, cool. pic.twitter.com/rg38P7g9Z2
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 8, 2023
RdS is the counterfeit $100 bill on a fishing line being dragged through the MAGA hood.
But the funny (and inspiring) thing is how many people sitting on the porches just laugh and watch it pass by, because they have seen this script so often. pic.twitter.com/vOeAHQ1QD6
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 8, 2023
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OK.
Let me say I loved Trumps policies. He will be near 80 years of age like Biden.
Have Trump win the Primary. Who is his VP? What’s next? Who in Congress works with him and who will he get to advise him? What international relations change knowing he has only 4 years at the helm and maybe two to initiate change? Domestic matters same?
Maybe the alternative is someone who is younger and shares the same policies as Trump and could be in Office for 8 years?
And Trump could be in the background as a kingmaker and succeed in putting fighters for citizens in office?
We need fighters. We need a proven leader at the helm with protective policies on borders and rights and we need a farm system of young fighters coming up thru the system.
Trump could win the Presidency but his ability to lead will be difficult. And it will be for only 4 years with maybe two being effective.
The big picture allows for a younger candidate with similar policies and Trumps influence in supporting candidates who will represent their voters.
“Trump could be in the background as a kingmaker”
Ah the latest RDS shill talking point.
Not patronizing, or utterly out of touch at all. at all.
“shares the same policies as Trump”
No he doesn’t.
Uniparty Ron is a globalist oligarch owned, wind up doll, that will do whatever his Anti American masters require.
The question everyone should be asking is if not PDJT, then who? Is everyone else just controlled by big money? Who in ‘28?
You have to win the general election, unite within the party, make good hires on staff, and deal with the obvious onslaught coming from the uniparty side. It takes special people to handle all of this.
To Sundance,
I love your work, truly, but… why are you blaming Ron DeSantis for those Republicans who you believe are moving to support him? If Trump is the nominee, I will gladly vote for him, as I did the first time. If DeSantis is the nominee, I will gladly support him. When I vote, I pull the Rs. General elections are not times for patriotic conservatives to parse and protest the imperfect. When do we get perfect? Not on this earth! But it is the time to marshal forces to make sure that we are the majority in both houses and are in the White House. Without that the Dems and progressives take us further into hell.
“patriotic conservatives”
A phrase that has lost almost all meaning.
And currently used mostly by paid political operatives.
“I will gladly support him.”
No.
Ron bent over for Anti American Ken Griffin(and others), and will therefore be taking his rightful place in the universe because of it.
Being a globalist owned tool isn’t an imperfection, its a disqualifier.
And no amount of ridiculous shilling will alter that.
So, I guess Michelle Obama can count on your vote in 2024 if DeSantis is the nominee.
No one has to vote……and from what I have seen it appears the division in the republican party will usher in the communists. We are done for as a free nation. DeSantis, Haley, Pence, Trump and any other republicans can not get together and form a real party like the democrats, if you can call the democrats a party. They are more like a cult! 2024 will be a victory for the marxists and the republicans will become extinct! Except for the rino s (undocumented democrats)! I hope that it does not happen like that, but it has been over for the republicans since Trump lost in 2020!
Vote for Uniparty Ron(or fill in a name ______), or else, will never work for me ever again.
If the system needs to break down, to heal itself, then so be it.:::
If the Democrat party and its “voters” are so incredibly tone deaf as to somehow yank the thoroughly unqualified Michelle Obama across the finish line for the nomination, and all the fraud and ballot harvesting that will entail, you can be 100% certain there is no value in voting HARDER in 2024. There is ZERO chance the voting public wouldn’t see straight through that transparently ridiculous nomination and elect whatever Republican ran against her, and the Democrats know damn well that’s true. Meaning there is only one way they would ever do such a thing – they know they can get ANY democrat elected, be it by 100 votes in PA, GA, NV, AZ, WI, and MI and concoct some hairbrained scheme where Michelle Obama gets NINETY MILLION VOTES. Wake the hell up
Caleb, I don’t know if u have ever watched the Lindell Report on Frank Speech. I believe on Mike’s 2/10/23 show he mentioned that “Suckabucks” Facebook registered only 64 viewers as opposed to his usual 50,000. He stated “This is a good sign where over the target (exposing DeSantis) when we have such a small audience.” “Suckerbucks” doesn’t want this info on Trojan Horse Ron getting out there. “Suckabucks” knew I would be talking about DeSantis. Talk about how all the globalists protect each other (DeSantis). Lin Wood, the lawyer calls RDS Ron DeSatanist! Lin is seldom wrong.
Exactly, Kevin!
That homemade picture montage is a weak-sauce argument against DeSantis.
Too many folks here in the Treehouse base their allegiances on WORDS instead of ACTIONS.
How can a true patriot look at what DeSantis has DONE (actions) in Florida and not love him?
He has literally shown (actions) the other 49 governors how to use their existing powers to fight back against woke corporations (Disney), illegal immigration, CRT (college board and AP courses), and so many other topics that are crucial to our nations survival.
The kneejerk reaction of many on this board seems to show a lack of the ability to simultaneously admire and respect two great leaders.
You obviously don’t know DeSantis’s record as a Congressman. He barely beat the liberal closeted homosexual Gillium by .5%…..he was not that popular until he adopted Trump’s MAGA agenda.
You’re judging DeSantis by two years of “actions” and ignoring the prior decade.
Yes, but how did we judge Trump ? We liked what he was saying, we had nothing else. As a disclosure, I voted for him twice. but, now I have to judge him on what he’s done, and on people that he chose to be in his cabinet, who were part of his policy changes, ext. Why we do not ask the questions about those people, and why they were chosen.
I think we doing the same thing as before, be looking for a human savior, and that notion blinding our vision.
there is right and wrong, oppositions that are controlled, and human perception. Choose well.
So you have to ask yourself … why was Jeb! at the DeSantis inauguration? If we’re judging by the friends one keeps. Why did anti-American Ken Griffin give him $10 million?
Really?
I just looked at DeSantis’ record as a congressman. Looks pretty great!
https://heritageaction.com/scorecard/members/114
Ron’s conservative score tied for 22nd out of 248 congressmen.
His score was 88… the highest score was 95…lowest GOP score was 24.
He IS conservative. He IS MAGA.
Only beat Gillium by .5% in his first win as governor???
Perhaps you forget that in President Trump’s win in 2016, he actually failed to win a majority of the popular vote. Are you really wanting to trash DeSantis for “only” winning by .5% of the popular vote?
I LOVE President Trump. Voted for him twice. Will vote for him again if he is our nominee.
He ended Roe v Wade.
But for a plethora of reasons, he does not need to be our 2024 nominee.
Stop hating on anyone who isn’t named Donald J Trump. We need more.
So you love TPP? You love a Paul Ryan clone?
Again, DeSantis squeaked out a win in a state that was Republican for thirty effing years. Not in a purple state. A state that had the sitting governor at the top of the ticket.
I don’t understand your first question… who is TPP?
If by “Paul Ryan clone” you mean Ron DeSantis, I don’t know what to tell you. Paul Ryan never had the stones to take the actions against woke corporations, illegal immigrants, and CRT/AP course that DeSantis has taken as governor.
“Florida has been Republican for thirty years” ???
Nope… here’s a brief history of some of the state-wide dems elected there in the past 30 years:
So you’re informed and don’t know the traitor trade agreement known as TPP?
We are talking governors here. Not federal elections.
Florida has elected Republican governors and legislature since TPP Ron was in high school.
Paul Ryan was a federal legislator as was TPP Ron. Ron voted in lockstep with Omnibus Ryan. As governor of a state that had been bright red for 20-30 years he mirrors his state at the state level.
You can judge how he would fare at the federal level by his past work there. He’s a globalist in the vein of Ryan.
You’ll have to pardon my not recognizing that you were referring to the ill-advised Trans-Pacific Partnership. That wasn’t on my mind since exactly no one else has brought it up. I thought perhaps you had entered a typo.
Nope, not a fan of TPP. President Trump was right on that one, and Rep. DeSantis was wrong. But if you want to base your dislikes (bordering on hatred) on cherry picked issues, but ignore the current actions, I have a question for you:
How can you support PDJT when he is a former democrat, and as recently as 2004 said this:
In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer: “In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat”, explaining: “It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn’t be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats..
Don’t misunderstand… I had/have no problem forgiving that statement as I voted for President Trump twice. I understand that mistakes can be made and that political thought evolves.
AMEN!!!!!
He barely beat the homo meth head in a state that had gone Republican since DeSantis was in high school. In a state that has been controlled by Republican legislature since Clinton was first elected.
Then he ran against a lunatic the second time. And aided by the fact that of the one million new residents in Florida since 2018, only 17,000 registered as Democrats.
So he did not convert the state. It was already Republican and 700,000 additional Republican carpet baggers moved in.
So well summed up, like your style. You get to the crux.
Ron Desantis might very well be a good or even great president someday, and I, too will vote for him if he should get the nomination in 24. But I will give you an ACTION that causes me to question where his loyalties will lie if elected.
Where (to whom?) is is he turning to for funding? The sources that have ben revealed so far are at least one PAC (reported at $200 million) of republican elites and/or swamp denizens, not the grassroots folks like most of us appear to be. Now, just whom are we supposed to believe he will be more focused on pleasing down the road, the guys who control his campaign funding or the us, the citizens?
I have great concern that other self serving big spenders (won’t even be surprised to see the Chamber of Commerce crowd join in) will jump on that bandwagon to help defeat President Trump, who has a clear and impressive record of supporting the taxpayer at the expense of the big money guys.
Does that not give you pause for reflection?
For more concern open the below hyperlink:
Mike Lindell Responds To Ron Desantis’ Attack On Free And Fair Elections; Support Of Dominion “Totally Disqualifies” Him From 2024 Presidential Run – Steve Bannon’s War Room: Pandemic
From the video I just viewed, it appears Governor DeSantis was in a round table meeting with Libby Locke an attorney that’s representing Dominion Voting Systems. She’s an expert in First Amendment defamation law!
Governor, if you or anyone on your staff reads these posts, you owe us an explanation! You certainly know the company she represents is the company that participated in rigging our elections?
It appears the Governor has some explaining to do!
Rimjob ron is not a great leader.
He is a filthy swamp prostitute.
Brilliant analysis. /s
By the way, President Trump endorsed him.
“By the way, President Trump endorsed him.”
For Governor…
Obviously. That was my point.
Are y’all trying to say that out of all the solid conservatives in Florida, PDJT endorsed a RINO for governor?
I think not.
There were two candidates.
Doesn’t matter if there were two or two hundred.
You don’t give your endorsement and put your name behind a RINO.
President Trump chose to endorse Governor DeSantis.
His fighting illegal immigration is a token effort at best. The rest of his accomplishments, as important as they are, are limited to the culture arena. He will not be MAGA, or even close to MAGA. He will support globalism and he will not clean up DC. This is not a kneejerk reaction. Because of Kevin’s and your attitude, we have establishment Republicans that work against we the people. Surprised you can’t see that.
Token effort at best?
I’ll take more tokens like that, please!
And a vast majority of our country’s problems fall squarely into the “culture arena”.
CRT, wokeism, abortion, cancel culture, free speech…
We need a culture warrior.
Mike Lindell Responds To Ron Desantis’ Attack On Free And Fair Elections; Support Of Dominion “Totally Disqualifies” Him From 2024 Presidential Run – Steve Bannon’s War Room: Pandemic
Defend this please. Open the above hyperlink.
Governor DeSantis convened a panel of law experts on defamation. She was on the panel and he said that she was “an extraordinaire when it comes to First Amendment defamation.”
What’s he supposed to say? “She sucks and I hate her”?
Doesn’t strike me as being any different from when President Trump praised the evil Anthony Fauci on multiple occasions:
“We have, whether it’s Dr. Fauci, we have the best people on earth.We have the most talented people on earth.”
“Dr. Fauci, Dr. Fauci is great.”
“No, he’s a good man. I like Dr. Fauci a lot, just so you understand.”
I’ll return your request… defend those statements.
Guru, I’m concerned about the way Mike Lindell reacted in the War Room! That’s so out of character for him! I guess we’ll have to wait and watch to see how this plays out.
I agree with you about Fauci and Trump! Even though the “jab” has killed a million Americans, Trump continues to support it.
Trump is the only one with the fight in him to make a difference.
I would rather have Desantis and Pubs, even GOPe than Dems/Obama running our country.
We need Backups for Trump, and we need to be developing them at warp speed, along with our own communication system, network, media, and working local, local, local and relationships (family, friends, church, community, work) to carry the message.
We don’t have the message developed well enough, succinct enough to be understood
We don’t have the message of how MAGA is better than GOPe/Globalism and why we have to fight GOPe (at least so the majority of public can understand).
We don’t have legal, executive, judicial, or legislative traction yet
We have to neutralize the intelligence community that is operating against us
Sunlight is working
Trumps secret weapon is economics. He moved more MAGA with economics and sunlight than with legal, legislative, or other means
When writing, ask yourself before you hit send: does this add value?
Dennis, would you please define “rim job”, and then explain your obsession with it as it pertains to someone you do not support?
He probably thinks with the nasally, beta male voice it’s an apt description. He’s not wrong.
Ad rem,
Dennis insists on using the term “rim job” (plural rim jobs) (vulgar, slang) An act of anilingus, involving one person licking another’s anus. as a nickname.
Could we please put a stop to that?
Ron DeSantis, as Mike Lindell says is a Trojan Horse. Before the 2016 election RDS said “as a Rino er Republican I can’t support Trump”. DeSantis is as Roger Stone stated a neocon. In 2014 he cheered on the overthrow of a duly elected Prime Minister in The Ukraine by the usual bad players. Rino Ron said his hero was George Bush + he wants 2 emulate Paul Ryan. He supported TPP + thus he is not America 1st but globalists 1st. Mike Lindell says his experts by looking at cast votes, determined the voting machines were manipulated in all states except for FL. Funny how he’s saying nice things about the women lawyer for Dominion voting machines. This not so nice lady on behalf of Dominion is suing Lindell, Giuliani, + other conservatives who spoke truth about election fraud. DeSantis or someone had the secret society (St. Elmo Society? not good) info scrubbed on his Wikipedia pages. I have tons of troubling info on him. If u r Maga, he is your worst nightmare!
In many ways DeSantis reminds me of a younger Trump, ruthless, goes for the jugular without looking back. We need to look no further than Disney and he put CRT where it belongs—in the trash! I would love to see him go further by requiring the history of this great country put back in our History Books!
We’ve seen what he’s done in Florida, to see it on a National level would be the icing on the cake!
I don’t think President Trump will make it through the primary, too many ruffled conservative feathers and a lot of us are still stinging from J6. In my opinion he left us hanging!
lol … so sorry but this comes across as a junior troll in training. My apologies if I’m wrong.
You’re not wrong.
There’s a few of them.
You’re wrong! Far from a troll—apology accepted 👍
This is definitely a junior troll in training. Never was an America First person.
Thank you groomer but I’ll be passing on rimjob ron thanks
That’s the beauty of what’s left of America! We have choices but we also have to live with them! Remember, Trump is a businessman who thought politicians could be swayed to his agenda! That obviously isn’t what happened! They took him to the woodshed and they will do it again! Because of their dislike for him, Trump will get nothing done.
I voted twice for Trump because I thought he would make a difference! The only difference I saw was a President who was crude and an embarrassment to many of us! His choices were not the greatest either! RINO Mitt Romney comes to mind! Also, many of those he supported in ‘22 were not the best! Do you remember when he said, “I like rich people, aka Dr. Oz??
Trump will be 77 in 2024. Haven’t we had enough of the aged running our country? Dementia can hit him just like “basement Joe”. The Halls of Congress and Senate wreak with seniors long past their prime. They should have been put out to pasture decades ago, but there they are, trying to hold onto that last little bit of power, while stealing us blind!
Correction … we have the illusion of choices.
Also this post removed all doubt that you’re a troll.
Chase, tell me why you’re a die hard Trump supporter? You call me a troll because I no longer support the Trump agenda. I think you should defend your beliefs, just as I do! These comments used to be called a healthy debate between two or more halfway intelligent people! Guess that’s changed!!!
I’m not a die hard Trump supporter.
I’m an America First voter.
There isn’t a shred of evidence that there is anyone else on the National stage that supports America First trade policy, foreign policy, immigration policy.
TPP Ron represents a return to the days of the Bush Crime Syndicate, as evidenced by Jeb! being front and center at his inauguration.
This doesn’t change the fact, and it is a fact, that RdS is an ‘employee’ of the RNC corporation! And if he – or anyone else- wants to run for higher office, they need the $$ backing of the RNC, and therefore have to do what they say.
Ron dS is a young man and will have a long healthy career, but Trump first! Let Trump dismantle/revamp/renovate the Republicans. Because right now there are NO America First players at the RNC
Now that he has officially tipped his hand by taking the ‘book deal’, I dont think his future will be looking as bright as you seem to think.
He has the smell of taint on his lips.
Dennis, again with the unusual choice of terminology?
“Taint”? “Rim job”?
Methinks you have an obsession…
He probably thinks with the nasally, beta male voice it’s an apt description. He’s not wrong.
With all due respect Trump had a chance to revamp the republicans/conservatives and he failed miserably, not that he didn’t have the intelligence to do so; he lacked finesse and even today he continues to insult! Trump is a businessman who is used to getting his way because he’s surrounded by “yes” people, not so in Washington. We’ll never know what the outcome would have been had he used some courtesies!
He held the highest position in our country; he should have learned long ago “how to play nice in the sandbox”! Dealing with politicians is not the same as dealing with businesspeople!
To ridicule, degrade people daily is not what that office is about—I was embarrassed for our country many times.
We need a young person of DeSantis’ caliber in there! Remember Trump is not a young man and it matters how much stamina our President has!
Yes you’re a troll.
So I suppose you hated the Supreme Court picks that the Bush Crime Syndicate or Juan McCain or Pierre Delecto would never have picked.
He lacked a GOPe that would reform itself.
You think TPP Ron is a reformer?
I agree with you but does that make him a corrupt politician? I heard Trump was having a difficult time raising campaign money.
Can you tell me why Trump backed McDaniels (Romney’s niece) for RNC chair when Mike Lindell broke his back supporting Trump and invested millions of his own money proving the election was rigged?
Trump will be 77 in ‘24, much too old in my opinion! Isn’t Congress and Senate overflowing with the aged? Trump has allegiance to no one but himself and he’ll go whichever way the wind blows!
Trump didn’t back Ronna Romney. Citation needed.
He congratulated her on the win!!
So you don’t think he would have congratulated Mike or the Indian had they won?
I don’t think you know what an endorsement is.
Look up Politico, January 27, 2023, Ronna McDaniels wins RNC chair race…….
and now young we’re done!!
Is a congratulation an endorsement or do you not know the meaning of words?
You cite a non endorsement as an endorsement and pat yourself on the back.
Yes, you are a troll in training.
Chase, did you bother to look up the Politico article or even bother to read it??? ALL OF IT? Didn’t think so!!
As with most things Trump does, it’s under the table!
You may also want to look up the definition of “troll”
Chase, if you are so obtuse as to argue that Trump didn’t back Ronna Romney, I’m not sure any facts will sway you. But, just in case others see this and actually bother to read before they bloviate…
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/584326-rnc-chair-ronna-mcdaniel-fights-for-reelection-in-leadership-feud/
Key quotes:
Donald Trump avoided making a public endorsement only at McDaniel’s request.
The former president is privately backing McDaniel, whom he picked for the job after his victory in 2016. But rebel factions inside his own MAGA movement have lined up behind her challenger, Trump attorney Harmeet Dhillon.
Guru1960, Thank you!
Dorothy, tell me exactly what President Trump could have done differently on January 6 that would have counteracted the obvious set up that the Democrats and Republican swamp creatures so cleverly orchestrated against the mostly patriotic American protesters.
The one thing that he failed to do in his administration was to anticipate the level of swamp fever that many Republicans have developed, as well as the unholy invasion of the deep state operatives. I personally can not imagine how anyone could have foreseen and managed those levels of anti-constitutional actions without totally dedicated support from people who had been there and should be well aware of such.
And, excuse my effrontery, but I’ve fixed something for you: “I don’t think President Trump will make it through the primary, too many ruffled Republican feathers and a lot of us are still stinging from J6. In my opinion he left us hanging!”
I understand your points and appreciate your thoughts.
I believe Trump was the President during J6. As President, he could have/should have overridden Pelosi’s refusal to call in the National Guard! If I understand the protocol, the NG falls under governors! Trump (as governor of the country) had not only the authority as President, but responsibility, to insure the safety of thousands of supporters in any way possible! As Commander in Chief, he failed miserably to protect his most precious asset! Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe some are still in jail!
If he hadn’t been so obnoxious, while in office, maybe he would have been better positioned to gain support! His arrogance degrading politicians, I believe, also led to his downfall! As I stated in another response, he’s a businessman, not a politician. It just doesn’t work the same in government as it does in the business world.
There are many who feel as I do, that he won’t make it through to the primary. Perhaps he will raise enough money to finance his campaign but my understanding is he’s having a difficult time gaining much needed support. Not only Republicans but many conservatives feel as I do, he ruffled many of our feathers!
Ah, so you’re thankful for Biden because “No more mean tweets”. Good to know
Trump’s arrogance and condescending went much further than mean tweets.
Still stinging from the FBI psy op on J6 ? Seriously ?
No, our stinging goes further back than J6! Speaking only for myself, I want a President that will get things done with the skill of a politician and knowledge of a businessman. Trump had one; he desperately lacked in the other. Ever wonder why he didn’t override Pelosi when he had the authority to do so? And why has he begun to criticize Governor DeSantis when just a few months ago he wanted him as his running mate? The Governor has done nothing but ignore Trump’s criticisms; but like a spoiled child Trump starts with his nasty comments.
Citation needed
What makes you think he had the authority to over ride Pelosi in that situation? Where do you get that?
If he had that authority, why would he have requested her to do it? Surely, such a no talent spoiled child would have made such an obvious move if he had the authority, wouldn’t he?
One of your earlier attempts to make a point about DT was that failed miserably to reform the Deep State when he was in office. Do you not remember, or just refuse to acknowledge, that he was up to his gluteus maximus in alligators before he was even sworn in. He turned to those one would have assumed would support him in establishing an effective administration, but most of what he got was GOPe deep statism. Who else should he have gone to?
You keep making these nebulous criticisms of PT that only exhibits an avoidance of clear thinking on your part, and truly reflect a hate for PT rather than any true support for anyone else.
Is your stinging from Trump’s failure to meet your standards of decorum so much worse than what you experienced from obama and biden administrations?
Was he not the commander in chief? Did he not have the power to mobilize the military?
In my opinion, both Obama and Biden, along with the Bush’s and Clintons should be arrested but we know that will never happen!
I don’t believe I said anything about the DS. What I implied is perhaps he could have gotten more done had he not be so obnoxious and condescending!
If I remember correctly,the CIC’s of the National Guard would be the Governor in each state. The president can only mobilize them, with Congressional approval, in specific cases (e.g., where he hinks there is a probability of sedition).
You mean, he could have gotten more done if he talked nice to the swamp creatures? No one else, including the times they controlled the presidency and both houses of congress, ever has gotten more done for the people (or even tried) than Donald Trump did, even though he had to fight both parties tooth and nail every step of the way!
Ron DeSantis appears to be poised to enjoy the financial backing of the big government Reublicans and big business. I don’t have a lot of faith that he will do anything on the national stage that those backers will demand for their further support. And those demands will not be for the advantage of the common American, I assure you.
I believe the President has the authority to call the NG in DC. From my research, DC is a completely different animal from other states. The power to control the NG is commander in chief. In DC it happens to be the President AND the SOD. My research may be wrong, but that’s what I uncovered!
Were you aware that when things got out of control, by Pelosi’s orders, I might add, Trump didn’t use that power; it was Pence who activated the NG.
I think we forget that all candidates need their party’s backing except Trump, because he’s a billionaire (or maybe I should say was). Why is it that now getting your party’s backing is wrong? Lobbyist’s have been around for decades! Isn’t that why it’s called politics? Why are all of you so against the Governor? From what I’ve read he’s done a fantastic job for Floridians, why wouldn’t he do the same for the country?
She wants a president that gets things done.
Best economy in the history of the country, record low minority unemployment, energy independence, conservative Supreme Court justice codifying Second Amendment and tossing Roe v Wade to the trash where it rightfully belongs, no new wars. Yeah, what a disaster. Can’t wait for a return to the America Last years of the Bush Crime Syndicate.
No sale Sundance. But in the meantime you might want to understand that DeSantis has done nothing but good for Florida and to many it’s NOT obvious that he is GOPe or a groomer or pedophile, and Trump derangingly attacking him is insane, simply a measure of hom much he fears him. But not a good strategy and shows Trump’s egomaniacal character. If Trump wants to win the nomination he should act like he’s ready to compete instead of thinking it’s owed to him. Been a deplorable from day one and been to many many rally’s. His vaccine stance and his incredibly stupid actions have me off the train.
Hey, lets talk about Trumps decision process on staffing first time around? Could it be he really is that naive or does he think he made the right decisions to install these deep state goons to bury the knife? I never thought I would come to this but Judas goat seems appropriate.
William! Seriously sir, don’t you know the staffing process of higher government level appointees? They have to be approved thru the SSCI. Trump had to nominate people who could get thru the approval process, and then work with them for the betterment of our country. Not an easy feat. Snakes in the grass sir, wear your high tops!
Could you please point where Sundance or anyone here at the Treehouse called Ron DeSantis a groomer or a pedophile?
William didn’t state that Sundance or a Treeper specifically made the statement.
However, as this thread’s topic is a discussion on the conflict between President Trump and Governor DeSantis, and since President Trump himself made that allegation (second hand, via a re-post), it is a valid point.
If it isn’t President Trump then it doesn’t matter which tool drags us to hell.
The DeSantis trolls are out today.
You’re aware Sundance lives in Florida, aren’t you?
How did DeSantis shutting down the state leave you feeling?
https://rogerstone.substack.com/p/trump-and-epstein-the-recycled-smear?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
I have this fantasy in which Ron DeSantis turns out to be the guy I’ve been waiting for…. The true MAGA conservative who pretends to go along with the GOPe Club in order to get elected, and then, once he’s in office, shows his true MAGA colors. I mean, enough RINO’s do exactly the reverse, don’t they? Pretending to be conservative, but, once they’re in office they show their loyalty to the UniParty… How I wish there were someone who would become a stealth MAGA in RINO’s clothing…..
I heard rimjob ron singing this song after having read your post,
” it ain’t me babe,no no no it ain’t me babe……… “
An interesting tidbit – notice how , in the list of Governors, Ron DeSantis is the only one who’s name is listed first, and he’s at the top of the list. The Governor of Iowa has a different setup with her name as well, but she’s still listed after her State. (…maybe she’s going to be his running mate? You know it’ll be a female)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/safe-states-children-updated-list-states-wont-comply-cdc-mandates-force-covid-19-vaccination-kids-school/
Tricky Business!
Hmmm… Looks like you might want to adjust #14 there bucko… you know, that lady who gave the the rebuttal speech to Biden’s SOTU address the other night—Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders. 🙄
It’s not my list – it was posted in the link.
Instead of worrying about how the list maker chose to type up the governors, I’d rather focus on the action that the article is proclaiming:
‘Here’s UPDATED List of States That Won’t Comply with CDC’s Recommendation for COVID-19 Vaccination of Kids for School”
http://www.ron24.com.
Mike Lindel outed RdS for who he is on Steve Bannon’s WarRoom. He is the latest “articulate” puppet (think Barach Hussein Obama) for the globalist elites. He was SELECTED by the administrative state. He was ALLOWED to “win” the election with all the billionaire RINO traitor’s money behind him.
Mike Lindell Responds To Ron Desantis’ Attack On Free And Fair Elections; Support Of Dominion “Totally Disqualifies” Him From 2024 Presidential Run – Steve Bannon’s War Room: Pandemic
Of course. He was Ivy League, Navy JAG, Paul Ryan disciple.
His resume has Deep State written all over it.