If you start from the baseline that everything in federal U.S. politics is a construct to be managed by the financial stakeholders who ultimately control all policy, then things make more sense. Through this prism you can spot the proactive moves, positions and predictable patterns organized by those in control – what has previously been labeled as “The Big Club.”
“Moving Florida Governor Ron DeSantis into position for 2024, with careful branding and management, is one large Republican Club operation done with forethought and intent.”
There are obviously trillions at stake, and people are now more awake to how that matters in the bigger picture of controlled corporate politics. Remember, the RNC and DNC are private corporations, essentially private clubs, who operate to the benefit of the major donor membership.
The major club donors are those who have vested interests in domestic or multinational political policy; therefore, the controlling elements of each private corporation are the primary stakeholders in the outcome of the policy the political clubs create through selected candidates. The Wall St billionaires, hedge funds, multinational corporations etc, essentially make investments by trying to control outcomes.
At its core, the financial outcomes of policy are the motives of the donor investments. This simple truth needs constant reminders, because it’s not a conspiracy to see the planning, organization and manipulation that goes into club politics. In this reference, the GOP club.
Just as Big Tech is in the targeting business to remove users and rebellious voices adverse to their ideological interests, so too does the Big Republican Club carry the same motive and intent. The financial people associated with Republican politics are ruthless, and their tentacles are everywhere. In the 2016 election they were caught off-guard, negatively impacted by the America First policies of Donald Trump, and now in 2024 taking additional steps, aggressive steps, to ensure a tighter control system.
Big Con is just as destructive as Big Tech, as both are motivated by the same dynamic. In 2024,we are going to see a far more violent, in the desperate sense of the word, response from Big Con. When the people inside the GOPe club have their money threatened, they get extremely brutal. No one attacks the Republican base voter with more vitriol than the Republicans who control the club system.
Not enough people understand this dynamic, and too few MAGA ‘America First’ voices realize the scale of how severely the Republican Club hates them.
The Republican Club organizes their plan, and they will seek to destroy anyone and anything that gets in their way. There are trillions at stake, and multiple billions inside those trillions are directly in the controlling bank accounts of the Republican Club operators.
When you find yourself facing a revelation and saying, ‘they would never do that,’ pause for a moment and recognize how severe the control issue is from their side of the dynamic. Yes, they would do that. They would do anything and everything.
This acceptance, albeit challenging to comprehend in scope and scale, is the accurate backdrop to review all of the groundwork and money, the Republican Big Club operators put into pre-planning and Machiavellian schemes. Their #1 goal is control.
The scale of their intent is also the accurate backdrop to view moves they have previously made, moves they are making, and moves they have yet to make. It is through this prism that you can see the scale of proactive effort the Republican Club operators have put into their Ron DeSantis operation.
Going all the way back to December 2021, when DeSantis handler Christina Pushaw set about the first steps of inviting conservative influencers into the DeSantis orbit in Florida, a meeting that took place on January 6, 2022, nothing from that moment to this was organic or unplanned.
Moving Florida Governor Ron DeSantis into position for 2024 with careful branding and management, is one large Republican Club operation done with forethought and intent. Everything is managed, scripted and executed according to a long-term plan.
The DeSantis management and branding team even created a private digital media operation called Florida’s Voice, specifically to promote Ron DeSantis in the state [SEE HERE]. They push out daily pro-DeSantis media articles to feed the conscripted influencers. If you notice, there is a DeSantis communication strategy similar to what we see coming through the State Dept and Ukraine, it’s not accidental. That’s what Pushaw was hired to do.
Through the Florida Voice outlet a promotional announcement is made on behalf of Ron DeSantis. The DeSantis team is releasing the promotional book on February 28th, and the principle will travel to Texas, California, Alabama and several other states as part of the “book tour” which is really the campaign for 2024 without having to admit it’s the campaign for 2024. [READ MORE HERE]
You see, the problem the DeSantis people have in the long-term planning, is the need to hide how long they have planned this out.
Once people become aware the DeSantis in ’24 operation has been planned since 2021, all of the ‘grassroots’ organic patina disappears, and people will recognize it’s astroturf.
2) Additionally, this is the single best opportunity to wipe out an entire generation of fake conservatives, controlled Wall Street alt media, and ancillary professional grifters.
It's an amazing opportunity to steer the affluent chasers into perpetual irrelevance. pic.twitter.com/fbGXsDwnth
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 8, 2023
4) Base voters suspected it with Bush, then McCain…
Base voters really suspected it with Romney…
Base voters realized the details of how they do it with Jeb…
Now, thanks to DeSantis, base voters will see just how conniving and Machiavellian the Big Club is.
Again, cool. pic.twitter.com/rg38P7g9Z2
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 8, 2023
RdS is the counterfeit $100 bill on a fishing line being dragged through the MAGA hood.
But the funny (and inspiring) thing is how many people sitting on the porches just laugh and watch it pass by, because they have seen this script so often. pic.twitter.com/vOeAHQ1QD6
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 8, 2023
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I am already tired of DeSantis. Every thing he does is a stunt. He’s just another empty suit.
It was obvious way back in 2021. He should’ve been primaried out.
OMG I live here and actually thought he was something…for a minute. Then when the scales fall off you realize he does literally nothing.
I’m a Florida outsider but Michele, I believe RDS is something in Florida/to Floridians. He is good for Florida if he concentrates on Florida. Think of the time he spends looking outside of Florida…if only he gave 100% to your state. Ya’ll would have it even better than you do now.
Do you mean like FORCED VACCINATION as he signed under S.B. 2006? Here is a part of that “law” (treason) … “If the individual poses a danger to the public health, the State Health Officer may subject the individual to isolation or quarantine, if there is no practical method to isolate or quarantine the individual, the State Health Officer may use ANY MEANS NECESSARY to vaccinate or treat the individual.”
And we just had it proved to us that they called the common cold (SARS includes the common cold and there were NO COLDS what-so-ever during the Planned demic along with the flu etc) was enough to force injections of known poisons while shutting down people’s livelihoods.
No, #NeverRon
There you go. If DeSantis honors his commitment to Florida, I’ll be fine with him. If he’s going to challenge Trump for the 2024 GOP nomination for POTUS, I have a gigantic problem with him.
He gives a stamp of approval to good Bills the FL. Legis. pass.
Would you rather have a Gov. that shoots those Bills down?
Cuz there are plenty of States where that is, in fact, what happens.
He passed and signed FORCED VACCINATION in S.B. 2006. Read the bill yourself.
here is an excerpt from said law – “The state health officer, upon declaration of a public health emergency, may take actions that are necessary to protect the public health.” Some of these actions include: “Ordering an individual to be examined, tested, vaccinated, treated, isolated, or quarantined for communicable diseases that have a significant morbidity or mortality and present a severe danger to public health.”
Respectfully disagree. I live in Washington. It would be outstanding for WA to have a governor like deSantis.
Sadly, you already have a Gov like DeSantis, a known liar and grifter.
30×30
The Villages
S.B. 2006 = Forced Vaccinations
etc which leaves so much more.
Political stunts get you elected. Remember when he put his kids in MAGA hats?
You have to exploit the current thing, to get Jeb! 2.0 elected in a MAGA hat, while waving covidian revival books. Pretender Pence already beat him to it, same consultants.
They announce their political faith in the uniparty…
“Mitch McConnell had advised me, correctly, that Fauci would be a valuable member of the team because of his stature.”
— Mike Pence, So Help Me God
They even bring out old skipping records, that sound identical to the new generation of corrupted MP3s…
“The Ukrainian policy for the United States has gotta be, pretty stark. That is, we hang with them until they win.”
— George W. Bush Nov. 16, 2022
Aside from these imbeciles, what the gOpE and independant normie fails is that their latest shiny object DeSantis accomplished was completely facilitated by an allied Florida State House; FL. State Senate; FL. Sheriffs Assoc. (mostly); and for sure both his AGs now Moody and before her Biondi (though a relative ditz reliably followed the law); let alone voting FL. residents who are quite different than the ones who very nearly validated a unit named Andrew Gillum in 2018 [49.6% vs Gillum 49.2). Now, do YOU think DeSantis brings the aforementioned entities with him on presumed trip up the I-95 Acela corridor to Mordor? DO YOU? Past even this, have YOU also forgotten what Trump faced on arrival, and SINCE, in that disgusting place on the Potomac? And despite it all Trump’s EPIC foreign and domestic accomplishments in spite of it?
I don’t know if Churchill actually stated it, but truer words have never been spoken despite we’re a Republic vs a democracy (Thank God): “THE BEST ARGUMENT AGAINST DEMOCRACY IS A FIVE MINUTE CONVERSATION WITH THE AVERAGE VOTER”…. and by the way, “inflation” doesn’t even land in my list of top ten (10) existential threats facing this Country.
In fact, a serious fed intent on macroeconomics would have simply let inflation ride, given the source, rather than pretending it could impact. Moderated govt spending of pure necessity and rippled through energy costs would have tapered inflation independently and we wouldn’t have crushed the housing market.
“I am already tired of DeSantis”….I agree, bigly! Ron DullSantis.
DOUGHBOY RON/DESANTIS.
That’s my name for him.
I’m tired of all the RuDeS bots who will shill and shrill and stink up this nice treehouse all this year.
Yep, he’s been very vocal with his photo ops and press releases that sounded great, only to have them fizzle shortly after. Going after Disney is one example. He’s done no more than my own gov.
The Governor of SC was quite good during COVID. I live in NC and would take a drive to SC once in a while to feel free.
He’s looking more and more plasticine every time I see him speak now …
With too much guy liner.
F’ the GOPe and every entity that aligns themselves with it!
ALL OF THEM!
MAGA ALL THE WAY!
Ultra-MAGA!
ULTRA-Dark-MAGA
Let’s hear it for the elderly!
ooops … sorry … the GOPe branding is getting to me.
They need our votes, we don’t need their money. Good riddance, take their coats.
You kind of hit on an important point. The GOPe needs our vote, yes but since “elections” aren’t elections with ballots vs votes, it would strongly appear unless the whole ballot/machine count scam is resolved, the GOP in its entirety is still on the losing end of everything that matters.
Yes, the GOP is also protecting Dominion which explains why Raffensberger and Kemp are still alive in Georgia.
I think Lindell is going to have some more analysis on the machines, on tonight’s show.
For us the GOP is on the losing end, but for the them, they are winning bigly!
They could care less if they are not in the majority. As long as they are on the Hill feeding at the government pug trough, they are happy.
This is why the whole darn GOP needs to be voted out. Very few members are true MAGA conservatives worth keeping.
Yes… Mike Lindell has been a CONSTANT in urging the removal of these machines. If the Country is to survive, let alone ‘gain ground’… They MUST go!
There is NO reason to keep them. Remember too, that the states who validated Dominion, Smartmatic et. al. were mostly states with either trifecta or exacta state legislatures – Arizona and Pennsylvania come instantly to mind as does Wisconsin who allowed, more assisted, mail-in balloting and “harvesting”. Now that Covid has been exposed for what’s arguably the most sweeping (and deadly) conspiracy perpetrated against the human race I see not one (1) serious effort to rescind those mostly gOpE validated policies loosed prior to the 2020 election. NO honest person of good will and intent would in their right mind EVER acquiesce in using these machines running proprietary algorithms – and is pre-cise-ly why the marxists fight so hard to keep them. To normie DOPES simply cannot grasp this concept even in the context that elections were at one time in this Country were rarely challenged and results delivered the same day. For too many it’s like trying to teach them particle physics. Invinceable ignorance seems impossible to mitigate. It won’t end well. Promise.
Depends on who buys the voting machines this time around. Uniparty may want a controlled opposition GOPe they can pull the strings on in the oval office.
That Team DeSantis photo looks like the Who’s Who of GoP stupidity! RINOs to the core. Deep into the Swamp. How will the machines handle that? After all, we know that one of the DNC’s two famous Cackles will be running (and maybe both on the same ticket). Reminds me of the ending of My Fellow Americans, where the two former presidents had agreed to run in the next election they just hadn’t decided who would be at the top of the ticket and who would be on the bottom. Maybe that was a decision from the past of one of the two!!
…and I’m pretty sure that they’re only in it for the campaign money, because they’ve already set themselves up to lose to whatever the Democrats put on a stick and wave around. Get ready for Harris/Fetterman 24.
Dan Bongino will not respond to anything about Ron DeSantis. But lately he hasn’t done the Ron DeSantis strikes again bit though.
People need to go to his Rumble channel and link to this article. He has been stepping up his game but he needs to face reality that his Florida hero isn’t.
The fact that a supposed ‘red’ gov won’t remove ERIC or dominion from voting is an insult to every American voter!
Dominion machines ARE STILL APPROVED to be used in Florida
+1. AoS is on this tough this morning. A Sundance worthy “deep dive”. Including NAMES. “Update on James O’Keefe/Project Veritas Drama” here: https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=403097
Thanks for that thread! Good read.
Could this be the reason James was put on forced vacation? An entire uniparty aparatus forcing his board of directors?
The fighting Please Clap Brigade 😂
Saw that. Someone let Bannon know Matt Tyrmand should no longer be on War Room. Tyrmand is working to oust O’Keefe and, I’m assuming, Trump as well. If Bannon doesn’t see this and stop bringing Tyrmand on, it makes me wonder about Bannon.
Bannon is the reason Bolton and Pompeo infiltrated the Trump administration. Screw him.
In part true, but willing to give Bannon a pass on this one as there is no evidence he had background on Pompbolton ilk. He’s detailed this with receipts along with Navarro several times over the past 2+ years. For now, Bannon can fight out of my hole if/when SHTF. Until then ALL remain suspects.
He absolutely knew what Pompeo and especially Bolton were capable of. He brought them in because he wanted to cause chaos with China, Iran, and even our NATO ally Turkey, who he sees as our mortal enemies and worth warmongering against.
Turkey is NATO (shouldn’t be) but is not our ally.
Yes, but the Deep State wants regime change there because it’s not cozy enough with Saudi Arabia and too cozy with Iran and Russia.
Personally, IMHO, Bannon is in it for the money. I don’t trust him as far as I can throw him.
The list of those who should no longer be on WR is long.
Also Cortes who is always on War Room. Steve has some issues on his hands…
Is DeSantis afraid of Project Veritas or is his handlers afraid of it?
Not that it makes a different!
is that Cortes? or am I seeing things?
Nah, but you know what Michelle… it would be no surprise if Cortes slips the very thin gap as now they now surface almost daily. More coming. Promise.
Yes that is Steve Cortes……hhhmmmm – something doesnt pass the stink test here……..
Notice how Alfie Oaks in not pictured on the tweet.
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Pretty sure that Seed To Table ( Alfie Oakes ) will be pretty put out when he finds out how they are using his forum.
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Seed To Table might need to place some legal controls on how this “Ironically Based Forum” is used.
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Much in the same way Trump must or should control the way those properties are used.
Peter Navarro is the only senior official working for Trump that I ever really trusted based on a 100% track record of proving his loyalty.
I have a mixed view on Navarro. He’s also one of the biggest proponents of the “China caused COVID” theory and doesn’t seem to acknowledge that Washington was just as if not more responsible. He’s also good buddies with Pompeo, which is always a bad sign.
Do you really know who Navarros good buddies are? I mean, really?
There’s a reason he suggested just last year that Pompeo be Trump’s running mate.
https://www.businessinsider.com/peter-navarro-trump-desantis-pompeo-2024-vp-danger-zone-losers-2022-7
Why is Navarro having dinner with the guy who likely was involved in the Wuhan lab “leak”?
My favorite team Trump Maga member. A Buchananite.
Get a tight grouping and fire at will.
Navarro is a solid.
But given what what’s now irrefutable, let alone those now exposed, would it come as a surprise at this point if he was NOT. If someone outed him as a plant – with the receipts. All I see is more abominations surfaced EVERY DAY. I don’t any more, but used to slam my foot on the floor or hit my leg thinking this is too surreal to be anything more than a dream. Which it’s anything but.
Sundance, I love you. This morning my sister ( who now reads you because I told her to) was moaning that there are so many huge groups against us. I told her to knock it off. “There are more of us then there are of them.”
We have God ,Sundance and Trump on our side.
I know I am sitting on that front porch-laughing my head off.
As St Paul said in Romans: If God us with us, who can be against us? I am paraphrasing.
So carry on and never count the cost. We give an account to God, not to doj, fbi, cia and whatever 3 letter org there is.
The MAGA Litmus test is underway–The Rhonda Santis supporters will out themselves as the fake phony corrupt POS they really are.
“Rhonda Santis”
That’s just brilliant.
Not certain, but I think that was first used by a commenter at Watts Up With That. I like it.
Ron seems to be doing great things in Florida. GREAT THINGS!!!! He absolutely should honor his commitment to be the Governor of Florida and finish out that term before entertaining a run for a different office.
What great things, that are not motivated by greed and opportunism?
The story I hear people offering up is that he is term limited. He either punts the Governorship early, or completes his term and is out of office in the middle of the next Presidential term. The talking point is running as an unemployed former governor in 2028 wouldn’t have a good look. Make of that what you will….
You know what a worse look is? MAGA traitor.
There sure are a lot of them. Also, I have never met anyone betrayed more that Donald Trump. It’s amazing. Can someone explain it to me? He gives someone an opportunity, the take it and then use it against him. Just unreal. You have DeSanti, Halley, Sarah Sanders . Pence…..on and on. What gives?
ok so IT IS all about his own ambition.
If he was good, he would not worry about that.
PDJT ran as a non political entity. A man who loves his country.
No, rd is a self-promoting, well fed weasel
really what exact GREAT things is he doing?
Go back and look at all the posts SD did covering RDS before the tide turned here.
There are dozens.
Plenty of answers to your question there.
He’s so deceptive to the MAGA voters now, what makes you think that he can be trusted in 2028?
Retired Magistrate here: Just curious. How do you know that it is really DeSantis that is doing great things in Florida and not the people pulling his strings telling him what to do so he can hoodwink as many people as possible into thinking that he would make a great President?
Also, he has already stabbed President Trump in the back by not coming out against the illegal raid in Mar-A-Lago. President Trump was the person who supported and backed DeSantis and this is the way DeSantis repays Trump. Again, loyalty means a lot to me; if DeSantis can’t be loyal to the person who got him his political start why would he be loyal to the people of Florida?
Here in Ohio we have DeWine, who is a strong RINO. However, we at least have a fairly conservative legislature to keep him in check. The conservative bills he has signed he only signed because they were veto proof and he at least wants the appearance of keeping conservatives happy.
That’s BINGO!
Seriously- dude took tome to write a book and is now going on tour?
Why isn’t he working for floridians?
We were told that GW Bush was doing great things in Texas, the national stage in another thing.
The sad truth is, who comes after PDJT? Many of us thought DeSantis was the heir apparent, until (mostly) Sundance exposed the Uniparty-DeSantis splitter op
Assuming DJT can beat the fraud in 2024, which I strongly suspect he won’t, how about Donald Trump Jr.?
Actually, come to think of it, IMO, not only will no “savior” beat the fraud in 2024, even if they did, Permanent Washington would obstruct them nearly as easily as it did from 2016 to date.
My friend thinks Eric Trump. I’m still not seeing anyone clearly emerge, though your pick & Faithful’s are certainly contenders, but with all due respect I’m not seeing anyone currently that really stands out.
I should add, I do believe being a Governor or running a business gives a President having that in their background a better understanding of the Executive office. PDJT found out about the Deep State & Swamp encased in bureaucracy & Congress in which if it was a business all would have been cleared out by a great CEO.
God will raise one up.
He did it many times before….
that is what I was always thinking. Lara Trump is great as well! And of course we have Kari in the wings
I vote for Kari Lake, Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert, Chip Roy, Congressman Dan Bishop (of North Carolina), & Congressman Eli Crane (of Arizona).
Matt Gaetz or Chip Roy.
Very slim pickings of true America Firsters.
Eventually probably J.D. Vance, who despite his early anti-Trump stance has I think seen the error of his way, he has now been among the first to publicly endorse President Trump.
I always thought that the issues President Trump was trying to remedy were exactly those described in his book, Hillbilly Elegy.
My Liberal Sherpa who loved the book, denounced the movie. Why? Because she found out he was a republican. In a Liberal-Democrat-Marxist Matrix, Democrat “good” Republilican “bad” and PDJT & MAGA , evil incarnate
Works well. Very well.
Colkitto no worries MAGA cream Will rise to the top we will take the best of them and keep moving forward . we will not be fooled again. P.S. thank you Sundance
You have asked the right question. There are millions of voters who do not want a president who is in his late 70s. Also, Trump is pissing off a lot of voters with childish attacks on DeSantis. Voters want Trump to tell us what he’s going to do to make their lives better, not just call a potential rival childish names. If not Trump, for whatever reason, then who?
But they’re not childish. Only you guys think so. The rest of us are fine with him hitting RDS hard.
Why did over 75 million voters vote for him in 2020 if they think he’s too old?
I think you are buying into the talking points of the never-Trumpers.
What all of GOPe refused to recognize in 2016 and still refuse to understand is that they only make PT stronger by opening their boring, weasel yaps to endless attack him. They are poison to their own cause! Forget it GOPe, the Base will not date you!
WHY does anyone think that even if DJT manages to be nominated and elected in 2024 that he won’t be just as easily obstructed by the 99% of government called the administrative state as he was during his first term?
Maybe this time Trump will only hire people that are not recommended by Mike thirty Pence or Chris Christie, or God forbid, George Bush.
No one who had the required swamp experience (know your enemy) wanted to work for him. Why? Look what happened to those who did. This will be no different in 2024.
Also, the Cabinet has no real control over the rest of the administrative state, plus obstruction by district judges, etc.
Maybe he’ll fire the top half of the government. That would help
Patience would have given him the MAGA crown in 2028, but passing up a fortune is hard to do.
DeSantis is not MAGA. DeSantis is not MAGA. DeSantis is not MAGA. All together now, DeSantis is not MAGA.
If Trump is somehow disqualified through the Unipartys ongoing lawfare effort, DeSantis wont need to justify anything.
Remember why bunker boy hid in his hole after the Mar a Lago deep state attack.
Its almost as if Santis knows something yet to be revealed and agreed to go along with the endeavor based on that guarantee exclusively. Best thing he can do now is exactly what hes doing, lay low and dont respond to the inquiries.
“Its almost as if Santis knows something yet to be revealed”
Don’t make these creeps out to be geniuses who can see into the future.
They are just a bunch of common double-crossing criminals and they are not very good ones at that.
They are the gang that couldn’t cheat straight…. they didn’t even know about the “digital trails” and the 24/7 security cameras.
We have them on the run and we out number them HUGELY and our terms for them are unconditional surrender with quick justice.
The other day someone here told me something similar about the creep who managed to weaponize/re-tool the 4th branch of government. Quite an accomplishment for an Obozo. I wish Trump could install himself into the WH too.
I see things as they are…Trump Won
It’s STANDARD PROCEDURE when federal law enforcement goes to a state to do anything, they are supposed to inform the state and local leadership to ensure the feds do not get shot.
MAGA FOR LIFE …….
The MAGA movement has the numerical, economic, moral, intellect and armed majorities in America and the “Greatest Of All Times” leader, President Trump.
The citizens are coming to life and are retaking control of their local governments (state, county, city, school board, etc.).
The energized “John Q. Public” results in better state and federal representation by vetting the primary candidates and identifying those who are running on the MAGA, America First, agenda and then supporting them all the way through the primary/ general election cycles. Support them as best you can with time and/or with $.
The feds are criminally operating outside of their Constitutional limits. It is MAGA’s duty to rein them back in. President Trump is the only candidate that supports that.
The GOPe candidates, like DeXX, want the power to stay with the feds.
God bless President Trump, his family, his supporters and the USA.
“Let’s go Brandon and the GOPe RINOs!”
I like what Guv DeSantis has done for Florida so far. That being said, DeSantis needs to be careful before he walks out on thin ice, 2028 would be a better choice for him and the state of Florida.
DeSantis has already crossed the Rubicon, and his actions are enough to where I would support the FL legislature impeaching him and replacing him with Nunez.
As I mentioned above, he’s so deceptive to the MAGA voters now, what makes you think that he can be trusted in 2028?
2028 is 6yrs from now, actions speak louder than words. I tend to play the hand I’m dealt, in 2028 there may be a better candidate than DeSantis. I believe he would be making a big mistake running for president in 2024.
I do not trust the RNC selected candidates, never have and never will.
The problem with Big Money and the self appointed Elites is that ” Money Talks and Bullshit Walks”.
Kindly read the post from “Marcia” at 2:05pm
Ronda Santis has:
-left Dominion machines in place
-Disney still has their special privileges
– has not investigated voter machine fraud
-allowed the feds to overrun MarALago with no consequences
– allowed the raid on Roger Stone
-has not promoted Constitutional Carry
-has not promoted MAGA or America First at all
– voted for the TPP while a CONgresscritter
-is running a stealth campaign which will leave FL voters in a bad way and is dishonest
– is playing kissy face with billionaires and Wall Street while raking in the cash
-has the FL legislature in his pocket, which he will not have if President. He has no experience wi th sharks like the IC.
– He almost lost his first election until Trump endorsed him. He’s shown a willingness to compromise his principles, if he has any.
I’m sure there’s more.
Feel free to expand the list.
“The Courage To Be Free”
The stupidest title of a book that I can remember in a long while. Who thought that was a good one?!?
Why does it take courage to be what is our natural God given birthright, confirmed and enshrined in the Constitution?
“The Courage To Fight For Freedom” is not much better, but at least it wouldn’t sound as naff as this one.
More books may be on the way…
That title speaks volumes 🙂
It does that, WORDMAN. Sounds as if the 3rd assistant to the person in charge of making coffee at the publishing house for this bilge was responsible for it.
Not in the least bit showing a preference for DeSantis since I long ago knew of the UniParty and stopped playing the voting for true representation farce, but the meaning of the title is probably related to this:
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” – Benjamin Franklin
I’d agree, Winston, except we didn’t give it up…it was snatched from us in totalitarian fashion.
And this struck me forcibly yesterday when I heard Huckabee Sanders speak of how we were the free-est nation on earth…
I nearly died laughing.
Our freedom has been stolen, appropriated by both the elected (Congress) and the unelected (the regulatory state) in ways too numerous to count. And all by the back door… hidden in unread bills or buried deep by power mad apparatchiks within government agencies that bring the full force of the law down on those who unknowingly cross their red lines.
And the image that immediately crossed my mind was that of the enormous Gulliver, strong in his own right (Americans) roped and helpless by thousands upon thousands of tiny threads (the Marxist/Stalinist regulatory state and a complicit Congress).
That’s the metaphor for us.
We agreed to none of it. We weren’t even consulted. It was presented as a fait accompli…and boom! Freedom diminished and on its final journey to obliteration.
The most free nation on earth? It may be that, but we are still in no way free in the truest Constitutional definition of the word.
Blessings, sir.
From 15 years ago:
Plumbing the Depths
How the Gears Turn
FRED REED • MARCH 9, 2008
(This first appeared in shorter form in The American Conservative)
https://www.unz.com/freed/plumbing-the-depths-386/
Intro:
Common delusions notwithstanding, the United States, I submit, is not a democracy—by which is meant a system in which the will of the people prevails. Rather it is a curious mechanism artfully designed to circumvent the will of the people while appearing to be democratic. Several mechanisms accomplish this. [he details nine of them; an excellent column – W]
Oh amen, my brother. Unz is hot or cold for me. I think I’ll enjoy this one.
(On Lew Rockwell’s site, he very often lists links from Unz, the last unfortunately where he was arguing that all the “died suddenly” events were not from the biojab. He’s in a back and to with Steve Kirsch on this (if I remember correctly).
Thank you for the link…off to read.
democracy is really not that great of a thing
it’s always been just one stepping stone on the way to tyranny
I have come to hate the word…especially when people like Tucker (who really should know better) use another word…”democratic” to refer to the Democrat party…in its place.
The problem with DeSantis is obvious. He wants it so badly that he’s willing to do the bidding of these people rather than be a good Governor, support Trump’s 2024 run and potentially have Trump support you for 2028, eliminating the need for the people currently behind him. Think about it, he’s been given an ultimatum… “It’s now or never, Ron. We support your run in every way now, or we never do and you’re political career is finished. We need you to take out Trump and his MAGA ilk.” And instead of Ron saying “pound sand” and waiting until 2028, he’s willing to go through with it. It must be an awful feeling to be beholden to so many people who have no interest in the American people, but instead continuing the illusion of choice for the plebes so you can maintain the status quo and your power and gravy train.
I think the unstated (or maybe stated) part of the proposition is “we’ll take care of Trump” -still a lot of game to play. They are devious though and machine and mail in voting changes everything. The Ds managed to do it in the primaries to Bernie-albeit he took a dive.
I’ve voted Republican forever. I’m done with them. I’ll vote for Trump even if he goes 3rd party. Anyone else running for president as a Republican will NOT get my vote. I’d honestly rather a Democrat get in there and kill America faster. Maybe then we could salvage the wreckage. I will vote locally for some Republicans, but I’ll never cast another vote for a RINO.
This 63 yo is with you
I agree.Their betrayal of Trump and his voters time and time again has made me feel the same way.
If the swamp GOPe likes him, that is a very bad sign.
The Dem and GOP establishments and their billionaire handlers from around the globe continue to attack DJT constantly.
If our Republic’s enemies start doing this to Desantis, I might start believing he is on patriots’ side too.
As a Florida resident it was sickening to see DeSantis standing behind dementia Joe just as much as seeing Jen bush standing behind DeSantis.
As a Governor absolutely yes, Presidential candidate absolutely F not
As Governor absolutely F not.
His entire governorship is an act and he’s taking the people of FL for a ride.
Is Dominion setting the stage for the Primary steal?
Not enough people understand this dynamic, and too few MAGA ‘America First’ voices realize the scale of how severely the Republican club hates them. Actually thanks to Sundance many have had their eyes open to RdS and will stick with DJT in 2021.
2024.
I’m almost sure you meant PDJT.
Oh but Ron says he’s just focusing on Florida, right?
He’s a pathological liar.
So, serious question…which of the most well known so-called champions of the “Conservative” movement are actually in sync with the “Big Con”? Obviously, Faux news, Paul Ryan, Laura Ingraham, Hannity, and that whole gang are shills, as well as Ben Shapiro and Glenn Beck. Is Tucker a white hat or controlled opposition?
The more the curtain is peeled back, the more I am starting to question a LOT of the other people that I had previously considered “stalwarts” of the movement, specifically Charlie Kirk and TPUSA, and everyone at Daily Wire (Candace Owens is now a caricature of her former self, IMHO! I do NOT care about her exercise routine or her wardrobe choices and I seriously doubt that anyone else does either. Crowder outed that whole scam and more power to him!) And what about Posobiec and even Bannon? And what’s going on behind the scenes at Project Veritas? Really hoping that Sundance will address that in a specific thread today or tomorrow!
Charlie Kirk is dead to me – wimp – he is a YUGE DeSanctimonious supporter. TPUSA is nothing but a money making machine and doesnt give 2 shits about America – all the frauds have figured out that cheer leading for the USA is akin to profits$$$$
“By their fruits they shall be known”
I believe we should always question everything, and trust must be earned over time. Grifters are everywhere.
and the trust must be continually checked because so many have apparently succumbed to temptation
So true.
I would take RdS more seriously if he was wearing the Camo Green Zelinsky Garanimals Collection from Walmart.
sometime soon the distancing from Elensky will begin. S/He’s already stale-dated
How will he do that? Let alone credibly so? You know who Christina Pushaw is?
As a Floridian, I’ve been suspicious of DeSantis’s motives for nearly two years. That suspicion has only grown over time, and by the midterms it had reached a point that I couldn’t bring myself vote for his re-election.
When I walked out of that voting booth, I was questioning whether I’d made the right decision. DeSantis’ post-midterm behavior demonstrates that I had.
To clairfy, I did NOT vote for Charlie Crist. I voted for the Libertarian candidate, Hector Roos, who by the way was the ONLY candidate to call out DeSantis for lying about his record on lockdowns and mask/vaccine mandates.
I know how you feel,when Ron lived here in Ponte Vedra Beach his first term in Congress I was a big supporter. In 2016 we where rezoned and I am not sure but he moved further south and I got stuck with Rutherford. I was always hoping he would follow in President Trumps footsteps after he retired, what a shame.
Has his daughter ‘sold out’?
They all write books, don’t they? I trust NO ONE who writes a political book outlining their “Love” of America. Trust. No One.
I wonder if they even read the books they supposedly write.
I doubt it.
Another book that will go the way of Hillary Clinton’s. $5.00 at the Coles bargain table.
I love trolling the FILTHY LIBERAL fake con sites and shit talking the RDS clowns. DeSkanktis locked down Florida, even the beaches. He voted like a Traitor in Congress.
President Trump will chew him up like $100 million = tough guy 2% low energy Jeb and Lying Ted.
I was a Ted fan until Mr Sundance woke me up. Now I’m a Digital Soldier armed with Critical Thinking Skills, able to sniff out FILTHY Imposters like the RDS Clowns how group.
There are more people silently awake than people think. This site has helped me convert my raging irrational Liberal friend into a Fire breathing prepping conservative.
Thank you fellow Treepers, for your insight and encouragement. What’s great time to be alive!
BRING IT ON.
He did not lock the beaches down.
Any beaches that were closed were closed by the County/City. Beaches in my County were NOT shut down.
You guys need to get your talking points straight.
And did he do anything about it when it happened, or he waited a few months?
🙄 🙄 🙄 it’s all so lame and tiresome. I don’t much care who they trot out. It’s all rigged so no point in voting anymore.
There may not be a point to voting, but there’s still a civic duty. My country may let me down, but I won’t let my country down. That’s my personal line in the sand.
VOTE Margie vote like your life depends on it please .
I cant deny that Ron the Back Stabber has done some good things for Florida. Unfortunately he is being thrown up against President Trump not because he will win but because he will be destroyed. The same people who hate Trump hate Desantis.
Exactly. They would LOVE to see an effective Governor removed.
If they can get rid of Govs., State Legislatures will be next.
Sundance should look carefully at this possibility. DeSantis has no money of his own. If Globalist money is tempting him to run against President Trump, the money managers may figure they can kill two threats with one stone.
I don’t know DeSantis’s views on America First, but his attacks on neo-Marxist educators and corporations fly in the face of the anti-Americans, and I doubt if they would favor him as President.
Of course, Governor DeSantis could stop them in their tracks by declaring that he supports President Trump in 2024 and will not challenge him. But flattery (i.e. money) will get you everywhere.
“The same people who hate Trump hate Desantis”
And sadly, Governor DeSantis does not seem to get that. These people are not “supporting” him because they like him or even want him to be President. They are using him to assuage their deep fear, hatred and jealousy of Donald John Trump. That is it pure and simple. They don’t care much with whom they must get in bed. Donald Trump must be destroyed. PERIOD.
The them governor of NY Andrew Cuomo tried a similar strategy, especially in terms of courting media favor and popularity with the public. DeSantis may experience a similar fate.
#SlavaUkraini! 😂
If nothing else, this completely explains the lackadaisical attitude about election fraud.
I really get upset with some of the conservative websites stating for Trump to hand down the torch. They don’t say to Ron, but that’s what they mean.
Trump stated that he is running for President in 2024.
And they want him to hand down the torch is just an insult as intended.
Trump is aware and ready for the battle.
He’s the only non globist on the scene.
When eligible, I’ve never not voted for president in a general election. And even if I were pretty sure my vote wouldn’t count due to mass mail-in activity, I would have voted.
This is the first time I probably won’t fill in that specific oval, unless Donald J. Trump is on the ballot. I’m actually not even ashamed to say it whereas before, I would have griped out someone who said something like that.
This time is different for me. I’ve finally gotten there.
You aren’t the only one!
Make that three of us.
I’m on Team Not Voting Unless for Trump. Period. Nor will I entertain any of the *but you’re just helping the Dems* eye-rolling nonsensical jibber-jabber. If they haven’t figured out how this ends by now…sigh…
I am an only-trumper as well.
I need more details about how to use the Ron DeSantis as an opportunity to wipe out the fake conservatives. I need the strategy Sundance sees.
How do I apply that strategy in my family, my church, my community, my workplace.
I sense Sundance’s optimimism, but I have trouble differentiating his optimism from the Hopium used in so many other places. PDJT is the only one with any substantial gains in results in conversions of people, eyes open, jobs, bank accounts, growth in market sectors.
Truth is good. Effective strategy with measurable results is what we need.
Agree.
Jeb! was wiped out to me back in 2016 but here he is again. Their money needs to be wiped out
I get SD’s point but are TPTB really that upset with Liden’s presidency right now?
The analogy is loving death more than life and so their only goal is eliminating the Great MAGA.
I think you misunderstood Sundance. I don’t think he is saying “we” (MAGA/Trump) should use Ron DeSantis as the opportunity to wipe out conservative Inc.
I believe his point is that our eyes are opened to their tactics, and this is the opportunity to reject them all. Do not fall for their shyte. Just reject them. Reject every tactic they throw at us. As many here have already said Trump or nothing. America First or nothing. If they or their chosen candidate/s cannot/will not address the election steal, then there is nothing else to say.
If the uniparty wants it, do the exact opposite and you’ll be as right as rain.
The Big Con continues.
Once Desantis is out of Florida, the Ds can put it back the way it used to be.
Governor Bush. Or Governor Wasserman, for example
Truthfully, DeSantis certainly isn’t working too hard on several issues.
That doesn’t stop lapdog media helping with the DeSantis illusion.
Note: the same folks trying to get DeSantis on a political suicide mission against Trump are also on the side of the coup attempt against @JamesOKeefeIII— remember that.
Could JamesOKeefeIII be doing the story of DeSantis partying with underaged student. That story would be fire 🔥 if true. Those students are now adults….
I’m not great a deducing all this stuff – but I will say what Barnes is suggesting here, makes absolute sense to me! Going after the man who *shines light* on the bottom feeders – as he’s about to go after their prize possession… Oh yeah!
“….and the principle will travel to Texas, California, Alabama and several other states as part of the “book tour” which is really the campaign for 2024 without having to admit it’s the campaign for 2024.”
LOL, the guy just got reelected as Governor based on him working for the people of Florida as a governor and he is going on a BOOK TOUR???????????
If he is not campaigning for another job immediately after being appointed to his governors job then he must be an author selling his new book.
LOL where does he find the time to go on out of state book tours in a state just devastated by Covid and Hurricanes?
I was for Desantis as an ally of Trump and even as a back up to Trump. I agreed with a number of his policies. But seeing him in the pocket of the donors who are against Trump is turning me off. My problem is thatin spite of his great achievements Trump was ineffective in fighting the deep state while president and needs a network of allies to succeed in the future. They tied his hands and succeeded in harassing him into immobility. Perhaps Trump knows that, which may be why he compromised on the speaker. In any case I dont want to go backwards into this uniparty den of iniquity.
If RINO Mitch the 0’Bama architect is on Team DeSantis, that’s all anybody needs to know.
I still think the DeSantis’s blowout was an orchestrated event.
I agree.
I’m all in for whatever will destroy the establishment GOP and it’s support networks.
Well, the primary season will be a good test of how well prepared the GOPe is for the November election. Can they manufacture enough phony ballots in the primary states to defeat Trump? If they can, then they will be able to give the Dem ballot harvesting operation a run for its money come November.
But if, as I expect, Trump prevails, then the Democrat candidate should win easily because what happened in Arizona and Georgia to Trump, Lake and Walker 1n 2020 and 2022 will be repeated. And, of course, we know that under no circumstances will Bernie Sanders be allowed to win the Dem nomination.
I will be shocked if, during the balance of my lifetime, a genuinely popular candidate ever wins the nomination in either party. Personally, I think it would be fascinating if Trump and Sanders teamed up in ’24 and ran a third party operation. Alone, neither could win, but together I would expect them to cruise to a landslide victory.
The Sanders who couldn’t say Donald Trump’s name during her famous GOPe speech?
no, BERNIE Sanders
Bernie Sanders has a rabid following among Gen Z and Millenial cohorts. He would easily bleed these away from the Dem nominee. Trump can and will bleed Latino votes, as well as about 10% of the black vote, from the Dems.
Do keep in mind that the only thing Vice-Presidents are supposed to do is attend funerals. Hopefully, Trump won’t make the mistake of giving serious responsibilities to someone like Pence the next time out.
What are you talking about?
There are many sources. Here is one.
https://uproxx.com/viral/steve-bannon-sarah-huckabee-sanders-state-of-the-union-trump/
Jeb! + Cruz = DeSantis
Dancing the RNC dance to the big donor music box will hurt DeSantis in the long run. Trump’s job is to simply paint him as big donor puppet material.
This is why I climb this tree every day for the TRUTH thank you Sundance be well treepers stay strong it’s a bumpy road but we are on the right path
R.d.