If you start from the baseline that everything in federal U.S. politics is a construct to be managed by the financial stakeholders who ultimately control all policy, then things make more sense. Through this prism you can spot the proactive moves, positions and predictable patterns organized by those in control – what has previously been labeled as “The Big Club.”
“Moving Florida Governor Ron DeSantis into position for 2024, with careful branding and management, is one large Republican Club operation done with forethought and intent.”
There are obviously trillions at stake, and people are now more awake to how that matters in the bigger picture of controlled corporate politics. Remember, the RNC and DNC are private corporations, essentially private clubs, who operate to the benefit of the major donor membership.
The major club donors are those who have vested interests in domestic or multinational political policy; therefore, the controlling elements of each private corporation are the primary stakeholders in the outcome of the policy the political clubs create through selected candidates. The Wall St billionaires, hedge funds, multinational corporations etc, essentially make investments by trying to control outcomes.
At its core, the financial outcomes of policy are the motives of the donor investments. This simple truth needs constant reminders, because it’s not a conspiracy to see the planning, organization and manipulation that goes into club politics. In this reference, the GOP club.
Just as Big Tech is in the targeting business to remove users and rebellious voices adverse to their ideological interests, so too does the Big Republican Club carry the same motive and intent. The financial people associated with Republican politics are ruthless, and their tentacles are everywhere. In the 2016 election they were caught off-guard, negatively impacted by the America First policies of Donald Trump, and now in 2024 taking additional steps, aggressive steps, to ensure a tighter control system.
Big Con is just as destructive as Big Tech, as both are motivated by the same dynamic. In 2024,we are going to see a far more violent, in the desperate sense of the word, response from Big Con. When the people inside the GOPe club have their money threatened, they get extremely brutal. No one attacks the Republican base voter with more vitriol than the Republicans who control the club system.
Not enough people understand this dynamic, and too few MAGA ‘America First’ voices realize the scale of how severely the Republican Club hates them.
The Republican Club organizes their plan, and they will seek to destroy anyone and anything that gets in their way. There are trillions at stake, and multiple billions inside those trillions are directly in the controlling bank accounts of the Republican Club operators.
When you find yourself facing a revelation and saying, ‘they would never do that,’ pause for a moment and recognize how severe the control issue is from their side of the dynamic. Yes, they would do that. They would do anything and everything.
This acceptance, albeit challenging to comprehend in scope and scale, is the accurate backdrop to review all of the groundwork and money, the Republican Big Club operators put into pre-planning and Machiavellian schemes. Their #1 goal is control.
The scale of their intent is also the accurate backdrop to view moves they have previously made, moves they are making, and moves they have yet to make. It is through this prism that you can see the scale of proactive effort the Republican Club operators have put into their Ron DeSantis operation.
Going all the way back to December 2021, when DeSantis handler Christina Pushaw set about the first steps of inviting conservative influencers into the DeSantis orbit in Florida, a meeting that took place on January 6, 2022, nothing from that moment to this was organic or unplanned.
Moving Florida Governor Ron DeSantis into position for 2024 with careful branding and management, is one large Republican Club operation done with forethought and intent. Everything is managed, scripted and executed according to a long-term plan.
The DeSantis management and branding team even created a private digital media operation called Florida’s Voice, specifically to promote Ron DeSantis in the state [SEE HERE]. They push out daily pro-DeSantis media articles to feed the conscripted influencers. If you notice, there is a DeSantis communication strategy similar to what we see coming through the State Dept and Ukraine, it’s not accidental. That’s what Pushaw was hired to do.
Through the Florida Voice outlet a promotional announcement is made on behalf of Ron DeSantis. The DeSantis team is releasing the promotional book on February 28th, and the principle will travel to Texas, California, Alabama and several other states as part of the “book tour” which is really the campaign for 2024 without having to admit it’s the campaign for 2024. [READ MORE HERE]
You see, the problem the DeSantis people have in the long-term planning, is the need to hide how long they have planned this out.
Once people become aware the DeSantis in ’24 operation has been planned since 2021, all of the ‘grassroots’ organic patina disappears, and people will recognize it’s astroturf.
2) Additionally, this is the single best opportunity to wipe out an entire generation of fake conservatives, controlled Wall Street alt media, and ancillary professional grifters.
It's an amazing opportunity to steer the affluent chasers into perpetual irrelevance. pic.twitter.com/fbGXsDwnth
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 8, 2023
4) Base voters suspected it with Bush, then McCain…
Base voters really suspected it with Romney…
Base voters realized the details of how they do it with Jeb…
Now, thanks to DeSantis, base voters will see just how conniving and Machiavellian the Big Club is.
Again, cool. pic.twitter.com/rg38P7g9Z2
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 8, 2023
RdS is the counterfeit $100 bill on a fishing line being dragged through the MAGA hood.
But the funny (and inspiring) thing is how many people sitting on the porches just laugh and watch it pass by, because they have seen this script so often. pic.twitter.com/vOeAHQ1QD6
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 8, 2023
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Spineless nitwits moving against O’Keefe
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I smell the reek of the Biden Regime, still desperate to punish O’Keefe for Ashley’s diary.
Because no one had figured out already that Joe and the Biden extended family had a little tiny problem with incest that they don’t really try to hide.
Maybe not… maybe they’re just mad at the meanie boss… but the Feds seem to be everywhere covering up for Dems
TRUMP MOVING THE NEEDLE JUST BY BEING THERE. #1 AMERICAN PATRIOT.
Sundance and all your crew of fools are taking this crap too far what is your bone you continually pick at daily ????? Did Governor De Santis hurt your feelings?
Hey Tom, pay attention… You wouldn’t post such stupid comments.
Hey TD.. Maybe ya oughta explain it to him instead of falling back to leftard tactics.
What do you even mean? TD is right. Tom has no idea what has been posted here about RDS.
He’s the one using as you call it – leftard tactics.
Obviously he has reading problems as does a significant percent of our population as indicated by low reading scores in schools throughout our country. Johnny still can’t read!
I know whats been posted here and I agree with him. RDS is golden in my opinion. His love of the jab. HIS jab and this row with the most popular R governor in this country will bury Trump IMO. Former fan since the escalator days. While we were looseing our jobs in the shutdown and looseing our freedom to move about and live freely Trump said NADA. DeSantis had our backs. Fast and furious Fauci saved the country with Trumps jab. Trumps can’t admit he killed people and is going to go down with the ship saying its safe and effective, it works, get vacinated. Screw you.
It’s almost like he wanted to be persecuted. If he had accepted Sessions resignation offer the day after he recused ………..well, that was the beginning of a bad trend. Not much winning in the personnel department and eventually getting your ass kicked by subordinates and the deep state.
Yes groomer William, although your worship is pleasing to both rimjob ron and his gopE masters……
You will still own nothing and be happy !
Randy:
I just posted a rather lengthy set of questions forming the basis of my DeSantis skepticism…
I’d love to hear your comments:
–From the first Lincoln Project shilling in Jan 2021 until ~6 months ago I’d said:
“DeSantis would never be so disloyal as to run against his mentor–
the guy whose every gesture he emulates–
who got him through his primary
then after he faltered, went wobbly with that “monkeyed-up” thing media pounced and seized on…
Got him through the FL fraud to victory…
Why would anyone trust DeSantis is he were that much of a scumbag politician?
And why would he run in 2024 anyway? Why divide the base? Why risk your career?”
As his sins of omission and hubris piled up, I finally started researching the answers to the questions I’d thought were rhetorical.
Can you answer my now non-rhetorical questions? I’m guessing…no.
“Sundance and your crew of fools” to start the leftard tactics.
The Truth has NO Agenda.
Randy is a dandy tool for fools
Randy didn’t phrase it well but he makes an excellent point none here should ignore.
Educate, don’t denigrate.
We need an excellent list by someone who knows that is 100% accurate ….TPP, red flag laws, signing on with fraudulent election machines…. I’m not the one to write it but someone is.
Lots of good people don’t pay that much attention and think Ron is another Trump. Last they heard, Trump endorsed him.
Please someone…give us an elevator speech.
Ok, here we go….
Desantis received a Trumpian Gubernatorial endorsement that saved Floridians from a drug addict (alleged?).
During and after the raid at MAL, he cowered and said nothing of substance while an American citizen and Florida resident’s rights were violated.
He has shown he will not oppose Constitutional violations. He is weak, like Biden.
Also realize that what he did and said was orchestrated from the beginning for just this election.
Remember how they were pushing Kristie noem.
Until the truth came out that the good things was entirely from the legislature.
She wanted to lock South Dakota down like a democrat.
I disagree. If people ask a genuine question — fine. Otherwise, people need to get off their butts and READ— do their own due diligence and research. That is a major problem today. People want others to do the thinking for them.
who has the time?
You are all spending a lot of time on a tool.
I disagree with you. I read and research. Someone who wants to toss out cheap shots is either bored, illiterate, or deliberately trying to incite. He needs to get off his butt and research it for himself.
Evidently you have not yet seen the DeSantis’ puppet strings? Wake up!
Sorry, Disillusioned, my comment was meant for Tom s…
There were lol be more of these mentally challenged comments in the coming days. They need to be ignored.
Don’t know where my “lol” comment came from. Should be “will be.”
Sundance is determined to go down in HEROIC PRINCIPLED DEFEAT! The rest of us are totally screwed when Comrade Michelle is inaugurated in January, 2025 and completes the destruction of America. Independents don’t read Conservative Treehouse.
There are no independents. They just don’t want to be bothered.
It must be springtime in the political cycle, the trolls are waking from their winter slumber.
Like a pack of rabid animals, they descend on this blog whenever RDS gets mentioned.
RDS obviously has a group of online trolls on the payroll.
Yes, it’s telling. It’s reminiscent of the 2016 primaries when they were out in force for Rubio and then Cruz.
Rubio and Cruz were props, so-so senators who were trying to make noise by swinging over their weight class. RDS has been twice elected governor in a pivotal must-win state. I get it that he’s no Trump, but Trump is not going to have party infrastructure going for him. Some here count that as a no-win scenario for Trump and want options, as second rate as they may be in comparison.
I for one am not shooting down my options at this point. If that’s considered trolling, oh well.
Agreed!
It is amazing to see the vitriol and name calling attached to us “trolls” who have the audacity to fail to march in total lockstep.
Sad.
What are you talking about?
Uniparty Ron is bankrolled by the same anti American scumbags that have been working to destroy President Trump from the day he came down the escalator, right up to the present.
Ron! – Please clap.
He did help up under the lockdown regimes. I didn’t hear a peep out of Mr. Fast and Furious about our civil rights? Could that be because it conflicted with his almighty jab?
Its amazing to see how fast the groomer patrol mobilizes.
Good old bitch mcconnel must be paying
good coin for this level of support.
DeSantis voted for TPP under Obama!!!! He is a Rino!!! People do not want a Rino president!!!! Omg.
What don’t people get? If the corporate media, Dems, rinos, wants DeSantis ….. ask yourself why and follow the money!!!!!
DeSantis = Bush 3.0
They are paid shills.
They aren’t here to address the facts.
Winner winner chicken dinner
And the GOP party infrastructure is a major part of the problem so thank goodness Trump doesn’t have it; Ronnie boy does have it – not good for maga
By your logic,
Rimjob ron will have the party infrastructure behind him and that is good for us Deplorables because ……..
The gopE is sorry and is really gonna do something good for us this time but only if we pull for rimjob ron ?
and aren’t you glad now?
Those were the days my friend!!! LOL Crazy around here at that time!
He has his attack dog Pushaw on it.
The reason we descent is because there are more than a few who like what RDS has done , and we really don’t care what volume you crank up the troll moniker.
Exactly.
You like tpp, bbb, slavery ( for others ofcourse), zelensky and…….Obama’s agenda
Wanna bet?
Why would DeSantis run against President Trump in 2024?
Why can’t he wait until he’s not hurting MAGA?
He’s ALREADY dividing the base while giggling, twirling his hair, and beckoning to more rich suitors.
DeSantis seems to be whoring himself out as an anti-Trump weapon.
I miss the DeSantis who was –or pretended to be –MAGA
Ron’s questionable alliances aren’t a Sundance problem
Imho, DS does what he is told, watch the “Big Club” hidden campaign. Please remember the fired trolls of Ole Twitter are on RNC/GOPe speed dial payroll.
You are right….the blinds are open now.
From what I have read, he is a swamp creature, thru and thru….with a side of government….
Sorry. I touched the red flag to the left of your comment and may of accidentally reported it? I’m not sure
If so I’m sorry and sorry to waste moderators time.
I’m not familiar yet with the comment section and how it works.
It takes a number of flaggings before the moderators are alerted, so occasional random mis-flaggings will have no effect and won’t even be seen by anyone except he that clicked it, so no worries.
Thanks Maquis! I have accidentally flagged people and felt so guilty for doing it. Glad to know it takes a few times to register!
I do it all the time and I’ve been here for years 😉
That is the type people I want to be around…make a boo boo and ‘own’ it.
I am very touched!
Me too .
Welcome aboard then!
We are a reasonable, God loving, God Fearing and usually joyous and empathetic bunch of “Ragtag Misfits”
No worries, I occasionally have fat fingers, too. Most here know me and my patriotic Trumpian leanings…am sure Ad Rem will figure it out….
That was nice of you to apologize!
Don’t worry about it you’re fine.
Rimjob ron is vulgar.
It’s also accurate.
You do know it’s the ballots not the votes so they will decide who ‘wins.’
But beyond that, even if we had legit elections, Mr. TPP supporter, globalist, GOPe consultant scripted politician Ron DeSantis can’t win in the rust belt, and no Republican can win the White house without the rust belt now that VA and CO have been lost.
Maybe DeSantis cut a deal with Dominion – check out what patriot mike Lindell has to say about RonKs very cozy relationship with Dominion
Interesting, and perhaps why he hasn’t gotten rid of those satanic machines
I’m not sure big Mike is up to it.
No, but K-Street, Multinationals…etc hate flyover country as much as the Coastal Elites do. Ron represents this interests. That makes him my political enemy. No ill will, Ron is probably a solid guy, but the people behind him hate me.
I wish BLM would shut down K Street.
If rimjob ron was a solid guy then he wouldn’t be with the people that hate us
Gov DeSantis is a liar and a coward.
He claims he isn’t running, but he is running, and does not have the balls to admit such.
How hard is that?
During his debate with Charlie Crist, Crist asked him the question to tell the voters that , if elected, you will serve out your 4 year term and he didn’t say a word. Obvious.
Christ knew
Christ knows all.
Crist? Not so much.
Perhaps he is NOT running for 2024 POTUS. Perhaps he is just letting the spin doctors turn their wheels.
IMO, the GOPe are pursuing this train of thought about RdS running just to stir the pot and hope to get citizens away from the DJT MAGA agenda.
Stirring the pot, to cause discouragement in MAGA. is a distinct possibility.
No, it isn’t.
As we speak, rimjob ron is performing unspeakable acts upon his gopE masters
For a man that is weak, very hard.
I agree with you Tom S. Why is Sundance pushing this? There are alot of people out there that would prefer DeSantis over Trump.I however am not convinced that DeSantis is running.
Because the truth is hard for people. Sundance is telling it.
If the 2020 and 2022 elections weren’t “jimmied” by voting machines, then it was ignorant voters who never check a candidate’s bona fides (does what he says comport with his facts.) How else can you explain 81 million traitors who “voted” for Joe Biden by ignoring the principles laid down in our Declaration of Independence and Constitution?
81 million voters did not cast a ballot for the senile idiot in chief. It was a combination of voting machines, fraudulent voters, and the rest of the DS antics that made this happen.
There were 100s of methods of fraud including law changes. I’d include blackmailed/bribed judges who refuse to take cases and moronic laws no one voted for (or that we “voted” for–like we “voted” for that tax hike on gas in a state where everyone has to drive)
Yes
Have you ever heard rimjob Ron say as much?
How about when President Trump was violated.
Anyone have the speech of rimjob ron’s vigorous contempt for that unconstitutional action ????
What ? No ?
do you REALLY believe that pos got 81,000,000 votes? NO ONE is going to make me believe that
I don’t know that. Maybe Sundance doesn’t want to be wrong.
Except that Sundance isn’t wrong on this.
instead of making it about SD, how about just just refuting the facts.
Who are Uniparty Rons major donors?
Um…the truth isn’t wrong.
You’re trying too hard dear.
You’re not very good at this.
See rimjob ron, perhaps he will teach you how to make some real money
Well why don’t you and Tom ‘push’ RDS for us?
Sundance has explained what his reservations are about RDS – quite persuasively, IMHO. Go on, ‘Change My Mind’, how is he the better candidate to make America great again?
And why is he doing a national book tour on Florida’s dime?
Will he be traveling to other states only on the weekends, or is he taking a leave of absence from his day job to go on tour?
He is appearing on March 9 to all the Republican state delegates at a dinner in Birmingham Alabama. Does that sound like a book tour to you?!
DeSantis has a wife with cancer issues, 3 little kids , and a demanding full-time job so why does he need a book tour and who wrote the book?
Peace, did you not read the article above??
”The Desantis team is releasing the promotional book on February 28, and the principle (Desantis) will travel to Texas, California, and Alabama and several other states as part of the “book tour”which is really the campaign for 2024 without having to admit it.”
the Book is The Courage To Be Free by Ron Desantis
Sounds like a crappy book
Its ironic.
Rimjob ron is on his knees pleasing his masters.
The title is an oxymoron.
Casey is a graduate of The College of Charleston…she has political ties as well.
It is one of the prestigiously dignified Southern institutions of higher learning. They used to be snootier than Harvard.
So in that respect, the Desantis group outpaces the Nimrata Nikki Haley. Haley went to Clemson.
Just a next door neighbor dropping by for coffee?
I doubt it.
Right. Where are the facts to dispute the fact that power-hungry financial biggies are rushing DeSantis along in an attempt to thwart the one they fear: President Donald J. Trump, owned by no one…. Those Big Clubbers pushing DeSantiss see him as a potential president who would be incredibly indebted to them. Owned by them.
Original LULU
Hopefully, by the time the debates occur, this new product will be in its maturity phase and entering decline…
From google:
The product life cycle is the progression of a product through 5 distinct stages—development, introduction, growth, maturity, and decline. The concept was developed by German economist Theodore Levitt, who published his Product Life Cycle model in the Harvard Business Review in 1965. We still use this model today.
The book tour is the Introductory Phase…
In simple words, marketing is the process of attracting potential customers and clients to a product or service. (also from google). They use research and advertising.
Remember, The RNC is a business and has a business model.
Business is in business, to make money.
I’m just saying people are talking DeSantis would make a Great president. They are not wrong. Who else besides Donald Trump? Desantis is a great backup. In this world I live with Skeptism that they don’t have more Nefarious plans for The Don.
Yes they are wrong . We have zero evidence that Ronnie would be even an average president he barely made it as Governor
“People are saying” is not an argument and “they’re not wrong” is not reasoning. Can you address one point?
“People are saying”
The usual paid influencer verbiage.
Time for the statisticians to come out with legitimate studies and polls….if such a thing exists anymore.
no candidate is perfect. trump STILL hasn’t said that fauci and burkes played him for a fool; that he fell right into all of the dimocrats traps; that he screwed up royally in hiring; and that the vaccines are no good against covid and people should taking that poison until we have more info on them. i’m not saying rds is my pick; just saying that we have a long way to go and i like what i have seen of what he’s done in fla.
Perhaps you might recall that the death jabs didn’t come out until after President Trump was unconstitutionally removed ?
I remember him talking hcq and ivermectin.
You dont because you don’t want to
Anyone bought and paid for by big business is. …..THEIR ….candidate/office holder not yours and not the peoples.
I’m just saying DeSantis is the deep state government man. Yale (and Bush’s frat), Harvard, Jag, prosecutor, supported by the GOPe, the Bush family, Karl Rove, McConnell, and the wall street billionaires.
Government man. DeSantis knew about the illegal and corrupt raid on Mar a Lago in advance and stood by.
Yes!!! Doing and saying nothing bold about the raid was weak and cowardly. It said he was anti maga and was going to run.
He’s not maga. He’s a Rino playing everyone.
And it took close to 4-6 hours to come out with a weak twit statement.
City, County, State, Federal–and each entities various legal attachments/lawyers etc…all knew….then lets talk about all those agents on planes, with fire arms. Even private jets…doesn’t the FAA and TSA know, too? Along with the other un named authorities related to the airports etc….
Amazing how it was kept secret….
…..people are talking means uninformed people are talking
some people are a little slow
its early; lets be patient
Katy Jay are you employed by the RNC?
“Desantis is a great backup”
Except that he absolutely isn’t.
Maybe and Maybe Not.
I am a person who places a lot of value on trust and loyalty.
In my world, to gain loyalty, I need to trust a person. Desantis is not deserving based on bits and pieces here and there. I believe he showed weakkness at the state and federal levels with regards to the raid at MAL.
Its kind of early in the election cycle…so we shall see who does what….
Anyone preaching rimjob ron is wrong and, or a liar. Hey, I would make a better President than rimjob ron because my breath is not that of mcconnels taint.
Amen.
The Cult of Leftism (or TDS-ridden) are programmed to insult, not debate.
If you are oblivious to those financing RDS coffers— then do your own research. This isn’t a petty personality conflict.
I, for one, do not want another Bush, Ryan, McCain, Romney —insincere GOPe POS foisted upon us again. I’d rather go down fighting then cave.
Katy, Sundance predicts every move of the Big Club with amazing accuracy based on years of observation. He predicted and wrote about the book tour purpose several weeks ago.
Cast your mind back to the backlash “anti vaxxers” faced not too long ago. Cast your mind back to the backlash anyone who did not condemn Russia and go full throttle zelensky faced not too long ago.
Now read/consider all the “revelations” on just those two subjects over the last month alone. Truth can be hard. Truth can be painful. Truth can bring disillusionment. At the end of the day “truth has no agenda”.
Early on with accuracy, he predicted the tyranny we faced related to the clot shot.
Desantis is running! But Trump supporters will never vote for a mini Me created by the establishment RINOS! It is the real deal PDJT or no one period!
Enjoy Pres Obama 2.
What is the difference between a RINO and Obama2 today? Either one is a whore for the global corporate cabal?
Alright Gregg I will definitely enjoy husseins 4th term as you enjoy cleaning rimjob Ron’s lips after a long night of….’ fundraising ‘
They why doesn;t DeSantis just come right out and say he is not running.
He is letting all this go on and not saying anything. If he is not running speak
up and put an end to all this …But he doesn;t…he is playing games..If he is not
nor has any intention of running then say so straight out not sit back and let
all the speculation and such go on.
Are you all keeping up with the wave of Big R opposition to Trump? They themselves will push Stormy back into the debates. They will pummel him with his loud n proud vaxx support, J6 drama and tax issues. The Ds won’t need to bother with it.
The Rs are devising a backup when the hammer drops in or before the primaries. You’re reading it right here, it’s not my claim. The Rs are not on Trump’s or our side. Forget it, we aren’t represented in the party Trump is using as his vehicle. Are we going to ride a train that goes in the wrong direction hoping to wind up back home?
The. System. Is. Dead to us. If loss is inevitable then start a true organization that at least gives us something to offer the public.
So what—be a pussy —roll over and die. I would rather fight for who and what I believe then acquiesce to what is the lesser of two evils. It is still evil. Win- or lose- I am standing with the man who proved himself for me and my country. He doesn’t deserve this disloyalty after all the abuse that has already been piled on.
Amen, Lorrie!!
AMEN! Lorrie!! Perfectly said!!!
Wonders is she single…….
Katy Jay, Tom s, everyone criticizing Sundance…
Why should DeSantis run in 2024?
How would that serve America? FL?
Do you believe Trump lost 2020? That Biden got 81 million votes?
Would it be authentic and honest to run against the MAGA OG
[even if you’re not accepting Sundance’s Club thesis]
after he was cheated out of his second term?
Go ahead and make your case.
So far Desantites mostly sigh about how TIRED you are of the DRAMA,
how we need new blood,
how Ron is getting things DONE!
but nothing about how DeSantis will fight DC, globalists, Democrats–
how he’ll find all those great appointments that Democrats will happily confirm, etc
Until Ron DeSantis throws his hat in the ring, I’m not convinced.
Well, you are in for a big surprise and an “I told you so” from people here.
Fine. I’ll accept it and Just FYI I truly want Trump to be President but just in case, I’ll take Desantis over anyone else. Trumps battle has not been won yet. The Democrats have lots of tricks and you notice it hasn’t stopped.
I don’t believe you.
PDJT, is the Globalists worst nightmare. Globalists are both wings of the UniParty.
I will not vote for rimjob ron period and full stop.
That’s okay. One of the good things is we are all talking about issues and whether we agree or not, that’s what’s important.
you have time to do your due diligence
by researching the facts
You are so right . And these Ronnie lovers need to understand that the MEDIA created the drama – NOT Trump
Pure conjecture to assume he’d do any of that. We heard the same about Trump when he ran.
A non-response to Josco…
We get it,
You would like nothing more than to pleasure rimjob ron….. but he’s busy ‘thanking’ donors
Yep, DeSantis is going to run on the, “I’m not Trump, Look what I’ve done for Florida, Blah, Blah, Blah.” When faced with the question on TPP, he will act like he didn’t hear the question OR some mouthpiece for him will spin the, “That’s old news and he was a naive congressman back then, and he’s since earned his bonafides.”
Curse you, Sundance, once you see it, you can’t unsee it! 🤣🤣
Let us not forget that on the 8th day God made….. rimjob ron.
Only dumb people
Money.
RDs has a huge war chest filled by big corporate donors. Didn’t need all that to win reelection, still has major dollars.
Still receiving major dollars from Big business and almost none from single / small donors.
Show me another Repub potential candidare for 2024 showered with 77 million or so from big donors!
Oh yes, DeSantis is running. He being a slimy weasel about it.
I realize I am just one person, but I have business associates, family and
friends who will NEVER vote for anyone but President Trump!
I don’t think anyone even mentions DeSantis. Of course, they are
not news media junkies so they haven’t read how great he is.
Amen
A lot of people don’t know squat about DeSantis except what appears on the news about him and believe you me, the DeSantis campaign is doing everything possible to put him in the news.
A lot of people who would prefer DeSantis over Trump have NO idea what snakes are backing DeSantis.
There is/was enough, not a lot mind you, out there related to his prior career as a JAG lawyer….and other cases….he seems t like the “sure win” and takes no chances….
I also agree !
Why is that silly Billy Sundance pointing out that rimjob ron is on his knees in the alley awaiting…..
Because the truth is hard for people. Sundance is telling it.
Wake up to reality. Guess the truth hurts. DeSantis is nothing more than the bag boy for his donors.
All the giddy old GOPe deep pockets raving about RDS brings to mind jeb! 2.0
Like the rest of the current spineless republican presidential wannabes he couldn’t defeat any democrat in a national race. If nominated the Press hyenas would chew him up and spit him out. Young Ronnie appears to be a good governor but he’s just not ready for prime time yet. Got to toughen up.
You want to win? Stick by your guns!
Freshman Florida congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna shows how.
Are you a prog secretly hoping all avenues to 2024 are blocked in advance? Because I don’t hear any option B from your people.
There hasn’t (and still isn’t) an option B.
A globalist owned Manchurian candidate, pretending to be something he is not, isn’t really an option.
Exactly! People who sell America out to the highest bidder are all the GOPe has to offer. We’re done with open borders, lying or lying by omission, backstabbers, sleazeballs, weasels, endless spending and endless wars that kill our brave soldiers, and Democrats in Republican clothing. Be real. Be honest. Love the country…that’s Donald J. Trump and only Donald J. Trump.
And, by the way, I was on the Cruz train until I found Sundance and these fabulous Treepers. Thank you all for all of your smart, wise, funny and fun remarks while waking me up from the slumber I was in!!! God bless!!
Foolish to vet prospective candidates? I call all this vetting. Healthy.
The fool is you. Best to take your tripe elsewhere. Your comment shows not just fear but terror and you have given your reason away for even posting here. Silly boy.
Yes Tom, DeSantis “hurt my feelings” when he committed crimes against the constituency with lying and breaking his sworn “Oath of Office”.
30×30 land steal
The Villages
Forced Vaccination under S.B.2006
The most disturbing part is a section beneath which reads, “If the individual poses a danger to the public health, the State Health Officer may subject the individual to isolation or quarantine, if there is no practical method to isolate or quarantine the individual, the State Health Officer may use ANY MEANS NECESSARY to vaccinate or treat the individual.”
And SOOOOOOOO much more.
You really need to look into and inspect the history of those that “represent” you, not just listen to the pretty words whispered to drop your pants.
MAT 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
“Because even if the lie is beautiful, the truth is what you face in the end.” – Lauren DeStefano
Tommy, Tommy— don’t get mad. Just move your butt-hurt behind to another tree. You don’t have to stay here and be offended.
Bless your heart!
The GOPe media like Instapundit are running negative articles on Trump regularly and flooding the comments if you support Trump. The game is afoot. I promise GOPe that I will never vote for DeSantis. The Republican Party is going to disappear. I will never vote for the best of a bad choice again. The Mc’s have pushed me over the edge.
Then start organizing a third party. Stop whining and taking your marbles home.
Nope. First, expose and exile the pretenders. Then take over the Party.
Are we here at CTH part the the “crew of fools” you are referencing?
I can’t believe you actually came to comment here and called all of the very informed and intelligent posters here a crew of fools.
LOL at your desperation.
Eleventy!!!!!
From the first Lincoln Project shilling in Jan 2021 until ~6 months ago I’d said:
“DeSantis would never be so disloyal as to run against his mentor–
the guy whose every gesture he emulates–
who got him through his primary
then after he faltered, went wobbly with that “monkeyed-up” thing media pounced and seized on…
Got him through the FL fraud to victory…
Why would anyone trust DeSantis is he were that much of a scumbag politician?
And why would he run in 2024 anyway? Why divide the base? Why risk your career?”
As his sins of omission and hubris piled up, I finally started researching the answers to the questions I’d thought were rhetorical.
Can you answer my now non-rhetorical questions/observations? I’m guessing…no.
Interesting tweets at last refuge twitter- The guy with the mike is Mathew Tyrmand, ringleader of attack on James O’Keefe at P/Veritas –
They are extolling Glen Youngkin FFS! (pardon me)
Well, Tyrmand just made the case for sticking with Trump. I guess Tyrmand is too stupid to know that Biden is 80 yrs old and squating in the Oval Office.
Imagine Glen Youngkin or DeSantis at a rally speaking off the cuff for an hour.
If Trump attracts 10,000, then surely the “new blood!” will draw 50,000! SO EXCITING!
I’d expect Youngkin to have Tyrmand as a fanbois
Happy to see Steve Cortes didn’t jump on that “Bash Trump Train.”
He sat there and did not respond. Even worse.
Steve Cortes???? Uh oh. Steve-O, you need to keep better company.
Glen Youngkin is only governor of VA because the MAGA base turned for him (which PDJT encouraged). Otherwise, TMac would be the governor. Youngkin is a country club republican but he’s better than TMac by a mile.
Please keep in mind that DeSantis has NOT put his hat in the ring. If he does, then spout your criticism.
So, he’s just randomly taking donations from the usual globalist anti-Constitutional wealth and power crowd with no expectations because they’re just being generous? You really are a dim bulb.
some people are ahead of the curve
have been most of our lives
nothing wrong with it
Tom, whose paying you? Are you a low level Republican on a County Seat, local Republican operator who has “friends in high places?” We know your type…and we are on to people like yourself. NeverTrumpers and Orange Man Bad that’s all you say to keep YOUR job, YOUR status. Tom, I’m voting Trump and there is nothing you can say or do that will change my mind.
…..sigh…..DeSantis is bought and paid for by the multinational corporations and banks. He is not America First. You are being fooled into thinking that he will stand for you. He won’t.
Cry more Tommy. You too Randy. Little Ronnie the Ken Griffin puppet boy’s job is to GOVERN FLORIDA not go on a “book tour.” What’s going on with Hurricane cleanup these days? How’s the insurance issue going for Floridians? Go attempt to hijack another site, CTH isn’t it.
Tom s are you a TeamDeSantis whiner paid in S&H green stamps? Of course you are. They, and you, will add up to something someday. Best of luck.
lol, remembering S&H green stamps shows you’re of a certain age
If DeSantis runs it will split the vote of the Republican majority and the Democrats will win in 2024. Trump must finish what we started and that will begin with cleaning out the FBI and DOJ.
Unfortunately that is the reality. It’s baked in and Michelle and Newsom are ready to rock.
Like Jeb! Split the party?
Rupert Murdoch, and Koch money to start Tom.
TPP.
Please clap. For the Globalist lackey.
You mad bro?
Opinions vary
…..Dalton
please detail the CRAP – so far I have only seen truth supported with facts
F RdS, We work with MAGA, not turncoat traitors! Tom, I’m sure there will be another balloon ride soon, don’t miss it!
pick, pick, pick until full exposure of rino
wait for it!
Have you considered a subscription to The Bulwark? It’s recommended by Rick Wilson.
🤮🤮🤮🤮
Well if you lived in FL and were involved in trying to get America First candidates elected you’d know exactly what the problem with RdS is. He endorses and appoints chamber of commerce, Jeb Bush style republicans. He fully supports all big developers whose money he gladly accepts as those developers slash and burn all open spaces. He has disappointed true conservatives at every turn even at the level of appointments to county commissioner positions. He appoints exactly who he is told to by the developers. If elected he will be GW Bush 2.0
Just pointing out who the Jeb Bush of 2024 is. De Santis could probably win without the Big Club. He will lose when America figures out who’s behind him.
Thank you groomer but rimjob ron will never be the answer to any question.
Unless the question is, how can I backstab decent people while getting
paid to pleasuring my gopE masters
Thank you groomer Tom for your valuable input.
Be assured that rimjob ron and his gopE masters are very pleased with you.
Who can Out-MAGA Donald J. Trump?
It certainly is not DeSanctimonious nor any of the other Pretenders.
The MAGA crowd knows this and ain’t gonna jump ship. Period. IMHO.
RDS is not MAGA at all.
That’s why I lumped him in with “the other Pretenders”.
I believe you are correct.
I know quite a few people who have jumped on the DeSantis bandwagon. When I try to warn them about him, they laugh at me. They refuse to believe he is anything but pure perfection!
I have never been a dem or repub
Maga is not repub nor dem
Maga is of the people.
Maga is the voice of the people not the parties
Perzactly!
Excellent observation! MAGA and America First policies are Common Sense policies not aligned with ideology.
All these ideological positions are dividing our country and destroying our country. If people claim our country has done bad/horrible things in the past, it’s not the country that did those bad/horrible things, it was the specific individuals.
It’s like saying guns kill people. Get rid of guns. Actually specific individuals kill people with guns or maybe knives or maybe machetes or maybe poison, etc.
Or a big rock like Cain used.
Oh? Since when? I haven’t seen MAGA candidates on my voter pamphlets. It’s poly-Republican and it’s doomed to fail because it’s a split allegiance… It’s a divided house.
Kari Lake proved it. No one in the DC R structure came to assist. The party is DEAD to us. Hasn’t Sundance proved it? Sigh.
Accept a second place candidate *possibility* or learn to love Newsom.
👍
This article appeared yesterday afternoon. The horizon does not look good, and the pattern is full.
At issue is whether Trump directed the hush money for politically motivated reasons, constituting a campaign donation, without classifying it as such:
https://sports.yahoo.com/ex-trump-fixer-michael-cohen-221900091.html
Oh Noes!!
🙄
They got him now… But seriously, I can’t believe they are recycling Stormy Daniels now. It will be near impossible to prove it was a campaign donation and if they could any kind of fine would be chicken feed.
Wait!!! Does that mean he is finished??? Concerned minds want to know….
No Ben, it really isn’t.
Who gives a damn? Since when do whores whine over getting paid?
Brava! It had to be said. Wasn’t Stormy hustling celebrity golfers at a tournament? Had her pic taken with every one of them, I’ll venture. My guess is that that pic was as far as it went, but she grabbed for the brass ring at an inconvenient time.
someone is paying her under the table to keep this sham up
Yahoo? Seriously?
you caught that too.
Hmmm. I winder if social media censorship and propaganda, with the gubmint’s direction, constituted a campaign donation to the Big Guy ?
Consider the source
Consider the source
I cannot fathom why anybody reads news on “yahoo” and/or “sports.yahoo.” Bunch of ignoramouses.
We are doomed!!!
The dead giveaway for me was back in 2018 when a lack luster congressman just up and left his congressional seat…just left – no real reasons. Then a few months later he shows up showered, polished and running for FL governor. Folk his grooming to challenge Trump started back in 2017. My spidey senses back then knew this guy was a tool – through and through..
We subscribe to the Claremont Institute (more or less to see what the ‘others natter on about!)
Today they emailed us about an expansion they are making in Tallahassee, Florida, to combat wokeness.
Here is the final sentence –
“Claremont’s new outpost in Tallahassee will continue that work with a keen eye to using Florida as the first template for any red state in America.”
?rdr=true
See who is front and centre??
I will just stay in Missouri
Why is the wife there? Did anyone vote for her?
Nope but she has the experience behind the camera and she’s got a cancer card to play as well. Someone please ask her what stage cancer she had.
the jackie kennedy wannabe?
And because of his lackluster governor campaign, if not for President Donald J. Trump he would not be the governor of Florida. I will not associate my vote with a backstabbing, disloyal corporate shiill. The sad part is that the primary will split the republican party and it likely will not come together by the general and RdS will be responsible for another democrat term. America First and GOP Corp. are not compatible. War is coming.
He’s NOT the only one who may run, and hasn’t even made noises of such. Why focus on him? Because he has the party in full backing if he does. Trump does not and will not have that DC R-party support.
Everyone here hates the Rs but insists Trump stays in the party “for state infrastructure purposes.” You call that a strategy? If running in a party we know is corrupt, then we are corrupt by extension. How else can it be viewed? We won’t donate to it and hate its leaders. Color me confused.
I think Trump should have started a third party after the 2020 election was stolen. It was a mistake to stay with a political party that hates him and is trying to destroy him.
It was a tough call.
I admit to feeling gut punched when he announced his remaining with the GOP.
We’ll see what happens!
wow you are good
I usually see a litttle “tell” then tell myself I am over reacting
then I keep my eye out
I am huge on loyalty
I pay particular attention to those who are loyal/disloyal to President Trump
The “tell” to me was the raid on Mar-a-lago and three day silence
and then a weak response
Me too! The raid on Trump’s home showed DeSantis to be a traitor and a coward! I used to like him until he stabbed Trump in the back. He would not even be governor if not for Trump and this is how he repays him?
Oh I’ll be putting in a large order of the books.
I can use the pages for TP when shortages come in due to his globalist undies and t-shirt.
A deformed bushie, and a presidential wannabe.
MAGA! Remember they stole our votes. Twice.
TRUMP 2024! Anything else is trash in tinsel suits.
You can add the Clay and Buck show to the group. They supposedly took Rush’s place. They both have very little analytical abilities. Several weeks ago they started to gently criticize Trump especially if he talked about DeSantis. They would say Trump shouldn’t do this… shouldn’t do that. I knew right away they were a couple of rats.
Big Con’s 2024 is not about getting Ron DeSantis elected president of the United States or enacting any single legislative policy. It’s about preventing Donald Trump from ever stepping foot back into the White House. Remember that and remember it well.
Big Con benefits from the status quo and allowing Democrats to run our country into the ground. They’ve made the calculation they’d rather have control of either the House or Senate than worry much about the presidency. It’s why they loved Obama’s two terms. Easy for the red-colored wing of the UniParty to fundraise and grift when any Dem is in the White House.
The Deep State will have to go through very expensive machinations and pull off another nationally fraudulent presidential election if Donald Trump is the Republican nominee in 2024. If it’s Gavin Newsom versus Ron DeSantis, they win either side.
Trump 2024
don’t forget what another poster stated
which really resonated with me
they want President Trump out of office
and DeSantis out of Florida (only he doesn’t know it yet)
Desantis is another closet rino. Once he’s in, his true colors come out, just like EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
Well if that’s true ,he hasn’t convinced me. I think he would make a Great President. So do alot of us. Not saying Trump wouldn’t but Trump turns alot of people off. We are lucky to have an alternative.
Read more Sundance then.
Katy, you show up every time there is a “Ron” article claiming to be ignorant about why Ron is such a sell-out to Big Con. Go read a few articles from Sundance. You always post on in the comments. Why not read the articles?
Just look at it this way: You met a really great guy and he’s so dreamy and perfect. However, your best friend keeps telling you of the warning signs that this guy is really a conniving, phony, creep. You, however, keep sticking your head in the sand pretending that he is still so awesome. You don’t want to hear the warning signals because you are so head over heels in love.
Sundance is warning you. You pretend not to understand. Good for you. But, please stop making the rest of us have to, again, explain to you why we are not in love with RdS.
Part of Pushaws little army of Rhonda fans
I’m just voicing my opinion which I’m entitled to. Sorry I don’t agree with you. Are you a Libbie?
What’s with the insults? Insults are always a sign of trolls.
Lyin’Joe Potato head is of the opinion that the state of the union is fantastic and the happy days are here again. Just because a person has an opinion does not make it an viable opinion.
Here are a few more “opinions” that come from nothing: white domestic terrorists, J6, secure border, saving democracy, billions to Ukraine to save democracy, men are women, children should be able to have sex change operations, inflation is transitory, and MAGA people are racists.
Feel free to defend your opinion with FACTS. Please, tell us what Ron has done as governor that will translate to being president on the world stage that will be AMERICA FIRST. Then, please defend Ron’s record on TPP, vaccines in Florida, and his growing attachment to all things RINO.
Ron is giving off signals that he is gearing up for a presidential run. He’s like your dreamy boyfriend who has lipstick on his collar, steps out of the room to talk on the phone, comes home late from work, forgets to return your texts, and forgets your birthday. If you don’t want to analyze his actions then good for you. I am MAGA, Ron is a RINO, so you must be a LIBBIE or a RINO.
the poster is not, but you might be
So vote for him. Just don’t waste your breath trying to indoctrinate or convert MAGA folks. Not gonna happen.
She expressed her thoughts. If that’s indoctrination, wow.
Repeating the same tired words over and over again whenever Sundance posts a “RON” article brings out KATY JAY’s love of all things Ron. It’s non-stop: “I’m just not convinced.” Say it once and then stop saying it.
If KATY would speak about all of the awesome things that Ron has done SPECIFICALLY and defend what he has done then that would be fine. If she would do that then we could refute her “proof” of Ron’s awesomeness. She is purposely not doing that because then Ron’s mediocre performance would be under the microscope and subject to investigation.
So KATY repeated repeats the same platitudes with the hopes of convincing weak minded people that Ron is really really awesome without any proof to back it up.
RDS is starting to turn a lot of people off too. And those people are the base voters, not the elusive independent suburban wine moms.
And he has no charisma.
And he’s for sale/ bought.
He can’t win the wine moms over the taller Newsom with the lower pitched voice. I think they are counting on using Casey and her cancer stories to get the wine moms on board.
Do you support TPP? Do you support the US proxy war in Ukraine? Do you support making economic policy that supports multi-national corporations not American workers?
Ronnie does
I’m not saying I agree with him. I don’t agree sometimes with Donald Trump, for instance The Vaccine. I do not support the war and i love Donald Trump. I’m just saying Ron is a great alternative.
Ron may be an alternative but we don’t need one, when we have President Donald J. Trump.
Oh the heterodoxy.
My point has always been this: As we read here every day, the uniparty Rs have and will sabotage DT at every turn. Since we know they are crooked, why are we still exploiting them? Do you use an ex husband to help you find dates? No. You get as far away from the adulterer ex as possible. Yet these readers want it both ways.
If we accept the reality the Rs are our only means to the WH against a Newsom or Obama, then you must negotiate with them. You don’t tell them who to run. Nobody here can grasp that.
Ie if we don’t have the power or the votes, then work with the uniparty as an influencer. We can’t run the primaries, we can only vote in them like everyone else. If that’s unacceptable then live with the inevitable Newsom reality.
From Tampa Bay Times:
“Network television focused on video from late 2020 and early 2021 showing DeSantis touting the vaccine as safe and effective to prevent serious illness from COVID-19 infections.”
“The vaccines protect you. Get vaccinated and then live your life as if you’re protected,’’ DeSantis is recorded saying during a May 3, 2021, press conference.
“The messaging should be ‘get a vaccine because it’s good for you to do it. It works,’ ‘’ he said in another.
“We know that there is no time to waste when it comes getting shots in arms,’’ Colbert showed DeSantis saying in one recorded video.
“They’re safe. They’re effective vaccines,’’ DeSantis said in another.
From Forbes:
DeSantis, like former President Donald Trump, was an early and vocal proponent of the vaccines, and was even embroiled in controversy in early 2021 after the state appeared to prioritize distributing some of the first doses of vaccines to areas where DeSantis had strong political support.
DeSantis in March 2020 issued some of the most draconian Covid restrictions of anywhere in the U.S., requiring travelers from New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Louisiana to check in with law enforcement to assert their quarantine plans.
Hope this helps, Katy
if you studied the facts you would know
that Ron is not a great alternative
If you were MAGA you would already know all this
The vaccine was not developed by Donald Trump. It wasn’t announced until AFTER the election. It was never mandated by Trump. He is not a doctor and shouldn’t be expected to know about MRNA technology, but he believed that the pharmaceutical companies were honest and would never put people’s lives at risk. He believed in it. Who of us has never believed in something or someone and found out later that it or they were not what they claimed to be?
Donald Trump was working in every direction to try to calm fears, provide for people’s needs, and help the country through the pandemic. What man has ever faced such a situation with as much courage as PDJT did or spent as much time and effort trying, all while being slammed daily by a media and a government that was undermining him, calling him names constantly, and ramping up fear of Covid?
Please quote your sources and data for your assertions. Trump could not have turned off that many people considering his landslide win in 2016 and his 81 million winning votes in 2020.
You really should just give it up re DeSantis because you will not win your argument for him here.
Not buying a lot are for RonBoy. Trump quit turning people off when he kept proving he was right and actually Made America Great.
Not buying a lot are for RonBoy when we have President Trumps economy vs what we have now and have pre-President Trump.
Not buying people think RonBoy can do what President Trump did and can do again, as if it is nothing special President Trump did and any no-real-world-business experience just has to get elected and be successful.
Not buying just because some insist many want RonBoy over President Trump that it is so.
I know several people who wish Trump wouldn’t run because of his ways of campaigning. and his criticism of people. Honestly some of Trumps choices are questionable to say the least. His track record is iffy. Saying that, I can’t argue with them about that nor can i defend him. I don’t know why he does that. But in my Heart I think he’s the Best President I’ve ever had and he truly loves this country. Ron Desantis is my Governor and hasn’t disappointed yet. He is a good alternative. I truly hope he doesn’t run and waits his turn.
Yes, you have an alternative….You either have the multinational corporations and banks and billionaire Wall Street dictating to government – like they do to Biden, or you have a nationalist who patriotically stands for the people of this country AGAINST the multinational corporations and banks, etc.
The clue is that DeSantis voted for Obama’s TransPacific Partnership after a $267,000 donation from Club for Growth. He was all for giving away the sovereignty of the US to an Asian conglomerate and making US workers compete for wages against Asian countries. Trump ended any discussion about TPP his first day in office.
It seems to me that DeSantis’s political career has to end. If the following is confirmed. I leave it to you, to judge.
DeSantis has according to Mike Lindell aligned himself with Dominion (ref video below) by seeking the services of their lawyer. The problem with this, is that Dominion is in part apparently owned by both David Rubenstein and the Communist Party.
So DeSantis, David Rubenstein and the Communist Party share the services of the same lawyer, with David Rubenstein sharing Thanksgiving with the Biden family.
[Link to video clip]
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/mike-lindell-goes-ron-desantis-aligning-dominion-attorney-dives-florida-election-results-video/
For your reference
BREAKING: Investigation Reveals Chinese Govt-Tied Bank Has Majority Stake in Dominion Voting Systems
By Reformation Charlotte
December 1, 2020
Beijing Guoxiang (33%)
UBS (24.99%)
Guangdong Comm. Group [zh] (14.01%)
China Guodian (14%)
COFCO Group (14%)
https://reformationcharlotte.org/2020/12/01/breaking-investigation-reveals-chinese-govt-has-majority-stake-in-dominion-voting-systems/
People are getting sold on DeSantis. If he gets in we are totally screwed.
“People”
That is a pretty large group ……or ….. a pretty small group.
Since MAGAs aren’t in the group, it has to be small……..
Only if they listen to the ENEmedia. Same ENEmedia pushing poison death shots. Gotta learn sometime..
“Kinder gentler” Trump, my arse! Anybody who challenges Globalists must first remove the white gloves. It is an absolute prerequisite for MAGA!
Ronbo DeSanctimonious is NOT MAGA. Never was. Voted for TPP. Low energy Jeb(!) please clap Boosh and his DONOR class are backing DeSanctimonious.
Nuff said. It’s Trump or it’s Armageddon. There is no inbetween.
This country is in such deep sh!t kinder gentler anything won’t help. WE NEED A LION! We need a DJT!
Hello —Bush, Ryan, Romney, McCain……….
I’m telling you Donald may have some competition, but feel like they should stick together. DeSantis and Trump.
broken record
Nope. They have two different economic philosophies. Trump is an economic nationalist. DeSantis is a conservative globalist economically. Support for Ukraine, TPP are all part of the same agenda – allowing corporations to dictate to government their goals for profit and ignoring the people’s needs.
:People are getting sold on DeSantis”
No they aren’t.
LOL– If DeSantis is dumb enough to run against TRUMP– he will be destroyed. Please tell me he is not that stupid. Please.
Nothing to do with intelligence. RDS is controlled and he is going along with it. Human brings can be strange creatures.
I’ll answer your plea with this…Larry Elder is planning to run to for potus 24. Unbelievable. I never had respect for him…he kinda floats on the waves but never goes deep/
Yup, he is that stupid, but he is being handsomely paid under the table to be that stupid.
According to Colkitto posting
January 19, 2023 12:41 pm
Reply to Sir Francis Bacon
This is where the Biden crime cartel spent the last 2 thanksgivings at the mansion of the Carlyle Group founder billionaire David Rubenstein. The corruption is in our faces.
It’s obvious he’s running. A good way to fund raise without fund raising. RNC, DNC, Repubs, Dems; all the same, just use different ways to carve up the Trillion dollar pies.
I started getting messages from Team DeSantis which I promptly deleted and the number blocked! They can send messages all they want but they will be ignored and deleted.
Ultra MAGA Trump 2024
I been getting “Ready for Ron”. Been deleting them.
I keep getting emails from nikki Haley
There are some real trolls over at the American Thinker site who are calling CTH Sundance’s “cult.”
Supposedly Sundance does not allow any posts that are critical of President Trump. Or that is their latest nasty BS.
I read many blogs during the day, mostly “conservative” and am seeing more and more commenters who are passive/ Aggressively denigrating our President, MAGA and his supporters. Of course they are all rooting for RDS.
This seems to be part of their strategy- let the trolls out who pretend that although they voted for PT twice, never again, now that we have the perfect candidate- RDS- the only man who can beat our President.
And yes- it is becoming more and more obvious that they really do hate MAGA.
So sad.
They don’t necessarily hate making America great, what they really hate is anyone who will get in their way for the payday, grift, payoff, graft….
Happening at Instapundit too.
if one recalls all these sites were anti Trump during the 2016 election
that is, until they decided they better jump on the Trump Train
Same DAF idiots who kept repeating the Bush, McCain, Romney, Ryan mistakes over and over- without learning from these mistakes.
We can’t keep voting for someone who is almost acceptable— they’re not ever going to be anything other than another sellout.
I will NOT vote for RDS even if I throw my vote away on some obscure candidate— from an as yet unidentified party.
It was same in 2016. Mark Levin went all in on attacking Sundance personally – it was ugly. And then there were the NeverTrump sites – pretty much all ‘conservative’ media. Breitbart, Instapundit, Allahpundit, Ace of Spades, Weaselzippers, Moonbattery, National Review, Weekly Standard, Legal Insurrection, The Other McCain, Blaze, Pajamas media, etc.
I think the ‘conservative’ sites that weren’t anti-Trump were CTH and Gateway Pundit.
I have made posts questioning Trump, thinking out loud, respecting the depth and wisdom of many of the Treepers here. A couple of times they disappeared, but when I inquired, it was probably because my comments were replies to someone else and they were taken down for good reasons.
For the most part, I think doubt about anything is allowed here. But we don’t tolerate trolls or people not sincerely seeking to understand.
BINGO!!!
the “not seeking to understand” is what
sticks in my craw
Just now on Bret Baer The Republican Party divide. This is what they want. Donald is falling into the trap.
You’re a good little worker Katy…
Certainly persistent. Gotta admire the enthusiasm.
Probably paid by the post.
Yep. Katy is here to sow seeds of discontent against PDJT all while being “concerned” for him. A regular Brutus.
she will take that as a compliment
Oh please. How much is the DeSantis team paying you to spew your nonsense?
Katy Jay commenting here might be one of those trolls.
when we did our research
when we are MAGA
when we support President Trump 100%
why would we spar with idiots 24/7 like they
do at other sites
our time is valuable
we have better things to do
I don’t like anyone in the Team DeSantis photo.
What if I told you that the “Team DeSantis” photo is simply a collage of photos created to get you to feel that way?
🤣 🤣
Sound like both ‘private’ parties are guilt of violating RICO.
If the Republican donors are mad, they should be mad at the RNC leadership. Repub donors give money because they want certain outcomes. Republicans aren’t getting elected (except the Trump candidates). The RNC stands by and lets the Dem party steal elections. The RNC could do the same thing but they haven’t. So why would a Republican donor give money if the Republican candidates don’t get elected?
Yes, their donors want certain outcomes but those aren’t in alignment with the vast majority of alive, thinking, and productive citizens.
They are mad because the larger Republican and Independent voter base has become progressively aware of the false choices we have been subjected to for many decades. In short, their Jedi mind tricks are no longer as effective as they once were.
This is why the election system had to be corrupted to arrive at the pre-negotiated outcome agreed to by the two corporations.
Keep in mind they do let a few real patriots and real communists in just to keep a smoke screen of election legitimacy, but they never allow so many that the uniparty can’t outvote them by a wide margin. Uniparty members are ‘allowed’ to vote for a MAGA bill but only if they won’t win in order to keep up their MAGA-lite credentials come the next election cycle. Same drill on the Communist side as well.
PDJT winning in 2016 was a result of their arrogance, a mistake they didn’t repeat in 2020 or 2022 which should have been a swing in Congress of historic proportions but wasn’t.
If PDJT is ‘allowed’ to win the Republican primary for 2024 it will only be to steal the election for someone in the D-wing. Polls will be rigged enough to conform to the official fake ballot results.
If they steal the primary for RDS then either uniparty D or R wing win could be on the table. Though RDS will need the uniparty stolen election card given how much of the MAGA base will be put off by not having PDJT on the 2024 ticket.
Troll
Those that hate humans want us jabbed, suffering and/or dead. The rest is all political theatre and wallet stuffing grift schticks. I have unsubscribed to Trump’s donation pleas about 10 times. I trust none of them nor any of their boosters…human or warped speeding. Because even the elect will be fooled.
I drove from Nashville to Columbus today.
There’s still a lot of good out here in the heartland of the South and Midwest but people need to be educated.
It’s not a slam on people but reality.
Demetrius Stanley, a former Buckeye football player, died today from cancer at 48.
He had the balls to run for Columbus Mayor as a Republican in a very Democratic town.
Sure he lost but he put his name out there.
Our current mayor, Fat Andy Ginther, is a corporate toadie only answering to big developers and public employee unions.
Many people mean well but we just need to keep bringing sunlight to the political and economic situation.
It’s a battle but it’s worth it.
I really appreciate this website and constantly check its Twitter and forum whenever possible even in truck stop parking lots with shaky WiFi in the Kentucky mountains and hills.
Because The Last Refuge is freaking worth it.
People love to have their ears tickled.
Boy they sure are doing that with all Bow down to DeSantis..
It is just insidious the way they are worming this in everywhere.
If you look behind DeSantis,you will see what the future holds with him…
There is someone who has a proven track record.Instead of punishing him by not voting for him,because of all the truths he has exposed,because it’s messy,hold the dust pan and help him clean up.
DeSantis is not a bad guy. Donald Trump is a unicorn, and after his second term DeSantis is about the best we can expect from the GOP. But that’s the key here: AFTER President Trump’s second term.
Wait your turn, Ron. It will come.
No thanks, but I know off DeSantis’s part in allowing the largest land steal in the USA’s history, and his part in the criminal activity that is The Villages along with his S.B. 2006 bill he signed which –
“If the individual poses a danger to the public health, the State Health Officer may subject the individual to isolation or quarantine, if there is no practical method to isolate or quarantine the individual, the State Health Officer may use ANY MEANS NECESSARY to vaccinate or treat the individual.”
– allows forced vaccination just like they pushed with the covid planned demic.
No thanks, he’s never getting a vote from me, ever, period.
Ron DeSantis is a liar and there is no truth in him.
Check out Ron’s staff, former staff, Zelinsky, Ukrainne, etc and that is just one very tiny aspect of this grifter.
I sure as hell hope not.
I hope a loyalist fighter from the Trump team steps up. Not all of them abandoned him.
Hillary thought it was her turn too
I once had high hopes for Ron DeSantis, however that has changed a while back. He could never be President Trump. President Trump has my vote, as I have not seen anyone better, however seeing him share a stage with Linda Graham a couple of weeks ago and giving support to Ronna Romney McDaniel makes me wonder if he would again surround himself with the backstabbers.
Ron is a good person and will run on the stop woke platform. The path he is taking appears to be his best chance of pulling it off and I cannot blame him for that. I doubt that he will run on platform of going against the the racket that DC has become and that is why my vote will be for Trump.
What about voting machines, voter integrity? Nothing will change for Republicans until that issue is addressed. Who’s addressing it?
Since South Carolina is open primary, the dems can vote. With Haley running some dems and definitely GOPe may vote for her to block Trump. I think Trump is trying to build some GOPe support in SC by using Lindsey Graham.
My DEMOCRAT lobbyist for South Carolina neighbor is very chummy with Tim Scott. South Carolina is a cesspool
Joe Biden to Spend Thanksgiving at Home of Billionaire Businessman
By Darragh Roche On 11/24/21 at 4:36 AM EST
President Joe Biden will spend Thanksgiving at the home of a private equity billionaire on Nantucket Island, Massachusetts, in a revival of a family tradition of spending the holiday on the island.
The president and first lady Jill Biden will have Thanksgiving dinner at the home of David Rubenstein, a billionaire and co-founder of the Carlyle Group, a global investment firm.
Forbes estimates that Rubenstein is worth $4.5 billion, but he won’t be in attendance because he’s reportedly traveling abroad. He also served as a White House official under former President Jimmy Carter before going into private equity.
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-thanksgiving-home-billionaire-businessman-1652793
It’s an uncomfortable yet very likely possibility that DeSantis is essentially a Con Inc. asset. He’s the “rebel” pol that we were told McCain was, well I’m old enough to have seen this movie before – as for me, I’ll take Trump again, warts and all – DeSantis is too slick, the MACHINE wants him as a spoiler and a possible pre-positioned “approved” office holder.
Yes. And his patrons are all in bed with Chyna, which means he is too.
This is not going to be pretty. Thank you, Sundance.
Virginia Republican Governor-Elect Glenn Youngkin’s former Carlyle Group cohorts own Dominion Voting Systems.
https://www.worldtribune.com/post-election-reality-check-glenn-youngkin-the-carlyle-group-and-dominion-voting-systems/
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David Rubenstein, a billionaire and co-founder of the Carlyle Group
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-thanksgiving-home-billionaire-businessman-1652793
So David Rubenstein and Carlyle Group “cohorts” own Dominion Voting Systems
Well of course they do. When McAwful called the White house on election night, they refused to help him and it was decided that Fairfax had counted all their votes.
Ask yourself, who are the Carlyle Group “cohorts”? This list is not limited to the United States.
Are they claiming dominion stole the election for Youngkin? Has Younkin been instituting the globalist agenda since he became Governor of the Commonwealth?
How far away is the Carlyle Group from the White House? Less than a mile.
The RdS campaign is buying so many news outlets. Babylon Bee, I know. The Right Scoop is another site where at least one Ron DeSantis article is dropping every couple of days.
The posters on Disqus to The Right Scoop are all in for DeSantis, so I love to throw cold water on them and let the down buttons mount up. But they need to see and hear a few voices that are telling them something and maybe they will eventually realize that The Right Scoop is paid political advertisement. Throwing sand in the machine every chance I get.
The Right Scoop
I used to read that site
when they were for Sarah Palin
they were so vicious to President Trump
lie after lie after lie
I believe Uncle Willard did the book thing too. If RDS is as good as him…
RDS in 2024?
No Way, No How….
I am beginning to think that these book tours that politician go on are just another form of money laundering.
Speaker Jim Wright proved that decades ago…………..
https://www.the-american-interest.com/2019/01/03/the-fall-of-jim-wright-and-the-house-of-representatives/
Pretty much. Legal money laundering.
well he certainly didn’t write the book LOL
I remember some knock down drag out fights here over Trump/Cruz in 2015/2016
Naturally. History repeats itself. President Trump vs an Appointed One. Same orchestrated tavtics to get the masses to think they are not amongst the masses.
President Trump IS the masses. Lyn’ Ted was not of the masses. RonBoy is nowhere near having the masses, the People, behind him.
We have here, again, a wee teeny tiny minority advertises themselves as the majority to marginalize and isolate the masses.
Bullshovits.
Rinos promoting their puppet DeSantis to divide the party and ruin maga.
I listen to the TN Star program with Michael Patrick Leahy, and some of his regulars on the show are just biting at the bit to “officially” promote DeSantis. They hate MAGA. I usually end up laughing at them. I wonder if they hear me and people like me. I sort of think they do hear MAGA all around them…they’ve been rather snippy lately. 🤣. MAGA 2024, baby!
DeSantis is accelerating his drive to oblivion. So far, his long term judgements are far worse than Trump’s.
Prayers for you, Sundance. You are poking the bear and up north, its still winter and they are hibernating. (Keep poking!)
Well, it will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Wondering if it is a strategy to start a political fight with The Donald, ahead of schedule?
Again, we need a strategy to keep Ron on the Turnpike, kind of a Groundhog Day type thing—with an occasional stop at the old Yeehaw Junction Service Plaza!
If you recall, when President Trump was recently asked the question regarding Ron DeSantis possible run for 2024 President; and I am paraphrasing President Trump:
‘If Ron runs, we will handle him in our own way…..’
Now each of us can think about that, as well as the DeSantis stealth fighting machine.
All you RD fans and paid trolls, understand this:
If Ron DeSantis continues his stealth presidential campaign and believes that his fans, real or otherwise paid, can tear down the millions who support MAGA and the only person who can complete the tasks to bring our once great country back to what it was originally, a Constitutional Republic, President Donald J. Trump, be prepared to face the reality of a very big embarrassing loss.
You guys and gals and whatever you are called, just continue to underestimate President Donald J. Trump; not a good idea.
MAGA! Trump 2024!
Half of MAGA has already defected to DeSantis because they are tired of the chaos that comes with Trump and because they have been totally fooled into believing DeSantis is MAGA. He’s not. I don’t know how Trump combats this because he has no friendly media outlet to get his messages out this time. The Left and the GOPe have done a good job of silencing any outlet that doesn’t adhere to their propaganda. They have effectively blocked OAN and Newsmax. Fox News defected in 2020.
“Half of MAGA has already defected to DeSantis”
Desperation is an ugly thing…
I was at a Palm Beach County Republican Executive Committee last night and there is NO SUPPORT for anyone but Trump as 2024 nominee. Trump inspired a Movement. He continues to inspire and energize that Movement. Trump excites millions of voters.
DeSantis was elected to be governor for 4 Years not to run to use his election. A primary would be a disaster for the Palm Beach County Party and, probably, for all Florida county parties. It would be a disaster for Gov DeSantis who would damage his popularity and even his credibility.
Palm Beach County Republican Executive Committee, both board and rank and file members, are 100% for Gov. DeSantis and support all his policies enthusiastically. These Republicans, including donors and leadership, also, support DeSantis 100% AND support Trump 2024 100% and do NOT support a primary.
The purpose of the “mean tweets” is to inform the activists that there will be a fight and it will be nasty. DON”T DO IT, he is telling those of faint heart. The rest of us think Trump 2024 is a necessity; he and one he can beat the Swamp. He inspired a Movement; he leads a Movement and we will stay with him.
DeSantis is very, very smart in not responding. He cannot gain anything. and he does have some vulnerabilities, in particular, he is dependent on donors and Trump is not.
Trump will get us out of Ukraine. Haley and Pompeo are on board with the war machine. DeSantis has made no comment about the devastation caused by US policies and US financial support of a war that is devastating a country
Political prisoner and faithful President Trump supporter just got a 3-year prison sentence for walking inside the US Capitol building carrying a historical Confederate flag back on 1/6/21. Team GOPe nods in approval.

i intend to decide who i’m going to support based on how much the establishment hates him/her
Are there any presidential candidates, other than Trump, that Sundance support?
I’m not convinced DeSantis is a progressive Republican as asserted by libertarian Republicans until I hear him say FL policy would not fit the 5o states like all liberal “progressive and libertarian GOPe” candidates pretending to be “conservative” say when running for the presidency.
Very cool. MAGA Brand Betterz
Uniparty RINOs Colluding Again
Mike Lindell Responds To Ron Desantis’ Attack On Free And Fair Elections; Support Of Dominion “Totally Disqualifies” Him From 2024 Presidential Run
https://rumble.com/v28pd7u-mike-lindell-responds-to-ron-desantis-attack-on-free-and-fair-elections.html
This reminds me of the story about AI refusing to produce the N-word even though doing so would prevent a nuclear holocaust.
Faced with a choice of DeSantis or the Dem nominee in 2024, I’ll say the D-word. I will not sit out or futilely write-in. Sure, that’s what the Big Club expects me to do, but the alternative is equivalent to nuclear war.
Historical note: Trump was not my first, or even second choice for President in 2016, but I happily voted for him because the alternative of Hillary was unthinkable.
ok, so what view are you espousing? Is RdS the counterfeit $100 bill we should ignore? But you say he’s the best chance to wipe out a generation of fake conservatives. How? You said he’s a fraud so how does he accomplish that?