Tucker Carlson and Tulsi Gabbard had an interesting discussion on her podcast today [LINK] which included Carlson retelling the story of the NSA conducting surveillance on him during a prior attempt to gain an interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
After recounting the NSA story, Tucker then went on to outline a conversation with representative Mike McCaul after the Texas republican and incoming Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee described Carlson as an agent of Russia. When Carlson got into an argument with McCaul over the accusation, McCaul went on to tell Carlson his intelligence community briefers were the ones who provided the information.
Overall, if you have an understanding of our prior CTH outline of The Fourth Branch of Government, this interview fits into that aspect perfectly. Additionally, expand your perspective as you listen to Carlson outline the details; remind yourself of the stakes within the domestic surveillance network from their perspective; then overlay the current headlines surrounding Twitter. Tucker Carlson is coming darn close to the center of the target. WATCH (prompted to 40:05):
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The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) has a vested interest in keeping the public unaware of the details behind the U.S. surveillance state. All of the institutions that were created after 9/11/01, specifically including the Dept of Homeland Security, the DOJ National Security Division and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), would go to extreme lengths -under the auspices of national security- to maintain the framework of the surveillance state they represent.
Penetrating this matrix is almost impossible as you are seeing from the Executive Branch (DOJ) and Judicial Branch (federal courts), as the institutions have an umbrella of protection by shouting for a ‘national security’ shield. There are trillions at stake, and the system of utilizing social media to conduct internal domestic surveillance is part of the process.
Barack Obama specifically enveloped the social media sphere by recruiting Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Google, Microsoft and Apple into the DHS system. Essentially what formed as an outcome of the mutually beneficial agreements was a Big Tech oligarchy (a monopoly of sorts). The construct was intentional, because within an oligarchical system no rogue oligarch will be permitted to put the group at risk.
Knowing the same DHS systems are all operating within Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Google, Microsoft, Apple etc., you can see how a risk vector is presented to the group if any individual partner were to go rogue. This reality forms the baseline to understand that Elon Musk would never be permitted to put the larger DHS surveillance system agreement at risk.
No matter how much people might advocate for Elon Musk’s purity of motive, the one motive that does not exist is the motive to expose the government link to the all-inclusive DHS/FBI surveillance state using social media platforms. The peer group, essentially fellow tech oligarchs, and the U.S. government would simply not allow it.
This reality is why there is a disconnect between what has been released in the Twitter Files and the absence of evidence/information specific to the DHS/FBI portal. The government side of the network will always be protected under the guise of ‘national security.’ Elon Musk, who is not directly in control of the data being released to show bias within the platform, is never going to be permitted to show how the DHS/FBI surveillance operation is conducted. It’s just not going to happen.
The Twitter Files represent a gateway of discovery into how government assisted creating “Oligarchical Systems.” Surveillance systems delivering mutual benefits called public-private partnerships were formed. Readers here are months ahead of where the arc of this story is destined. However, oligarchical beneficiaries will always defend the system against rogue oligarchs who become a threat. There will never be an end that includes the national security state being exposed.
Surveillance of domestic communication, to include surveillance of all social media platforms, is now the primary mission of DHS. The information is gathered by social media, funneled by direct portals into the DHS network then distributed to DOJ-NSD and FBI officials as well as the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
This communication surveillance & information control network is the primary mission of DHS. They are not going to let Elon Musk put that at risk. That is why the focus of any Twitter File release can only be Twitter internally. Musk is not in control of these decisions. The DHS national security apparatus is in control.
The four pillars of the Fourth Branch of Government are: DHS, ODNI, DOJ-NSD and the revised/political FBI. All four pillars were created as an outcome of the Patriot Act. These institutions – as specifically named – represent the domestic surveillance state. The subsidiary institutions like TSA etc, exist under their authority.
There is no oversight or counterbalance to this created system. The Fourth Branch exists using the shield of “national intelligence” to hide their activity. Domestic surveillance is done by the intelligence apparatus under one big connected system, operated by the ODNI and DHS.
Put simply, DHS stakeholders, to include the DOJ, FBI and Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), are mitigating any consequential public exposure of their domestic surveillance activity by controlling and feeding Mr. Musk selected information about their prior Twitter operations.
If TikTok is a national security threat, then TikTok is to Beijing as Twitter is to Washington DC.
The larger objective of U.S. involvement in social media has always been monitoring and surveillance of the public conversation, and then ultimately controlling and influencing public opinion.
Everything we are watching unfold is a DHS controlled, and FBI mitigated, release of information.
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If Obama was the nail, then who was the hammer?
George Soros?
I think someone is controlling Soros. “The smaller investors are owned by larger investors. Those are owned by even bigger investors. They are Vanguard and BlackRock. Who runs the world? There are many videos about that and Soros isn’t at the top.
Personally, I think George Soros is basically a bagman for the CCP – do things to erode the life of the target, soften the ground.
Bill Gates wants to a BMOC (Big Man On Campus – I think I remember reading that term many years ago in an article in MAD magazine) . . . Bill Gates really wants to be BMOC, the original influencer, the guy drinking sewer water for an audience of hundreds without missing a beat. He has been doing his part as well, hasn’t he – softening the ground in Africa for the CCP, I think, for one thing.
Go watch the video of Gates back in the late 90’s when he was inches from going to jail and losing everything.
He got the message. He made a choice to keep his wealth and probably his family safe.
He’s nowhere near the top.
Yes, but on the other hand, Georg Shorosh is at the moral bottom.
I am pretty sure that Soros is the CIA’s domestic arm.
Michael…..I mean Michelle. But that’s a different topic
Strange how we only hear of Davos now. No longer are we concerned with the Bilderberg Group, the Club of Rome, the Trilateral Commission, etc. Interesting.
I believe we might call the Davos group a ‘Joint Committee’ representing those other groups.
Messengers of those other groups, I suspect.
What?
No love for the Evil Genius Klaus Schwab and his hard-working and very creative but consistently unlucky mascot the Coyote?!
The people seeking to ban Tik Tok are the biggest hypocrites in the country.
The only thing I get out of it is “Spying on Americans is only bad when China does it.”
Really, tell us about your employment at Twitter skippy.
Not only that, but where was Rubio and his “bi-partisan” supporters when President Trump was fighting (with zero support) to ban TikTok?
What a great interview. I’m reminded of “All evil starts with a lie” and “He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.”
“There will never be an end that includes the national security state being exposed.”
Huh?
As much as I respect Sundance, he’s lost me here. He might as well be saying Bigfoot is behind all social media censoring but Bigfoot is too clever and too powerful to ever be exposed.
One of the statements in this video that stands out to me is when Tucker Carlson is talking about the hubris of these people.
I think that they make mistakes, not due to incompetence, because they are very smart. They make mistakes due to their sheer arrogance and lack of real understanding. Of their expectation that they are the only smart people in the room.
For example, Biden got some African leaders flown into Washington, but the day before, he places sanctions on at least one African country. It is intended to be intimidating. He offered the ones who were present $55 billion dollars over 3 years for various projects, most of which comes from previously announced programs. Among those programs will be reproductive healthcare (maybe promoting abortions????), conservation, and “energy transitions”, plus $4 billion for healthcare workers (maybe from Planned Parenthood or other US NGO’s??????).
Then Lloyd Austin gave the gathered African leaders a speech warning them how Russia and China would de-stabilize Africa. Of course, he failed to mention the de-stabilization of Egypt and Libya by the US.
Do these people really think that leaders of African countries are stupid and can’t see what the US is trying to do? The sheer arrogance is disgusting.
Ever met a CIA or State officer. I’ve seen lobotomized people who had more common sense and better grasp of real world problems.
Yes. That’s the problem. They are too arrogant to see that they don’t know all they think they know. And they have pretended too much for people to trust them, but they don’t see that.
They’re all like Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men”: “You can’t handle the truth”
They also seem to think the internet has not yet made it to flyover country. They lie when their lies are so easily disproven.
It’s done on purpose, right under your nose, knowing it’s wrong, and daring you to do something about it.
Completely diabolical.
Unelected spy agencies are controlling the outcome in our country!
Chuck Schumer is resigned to the way they set up DC
Pressure Points can be applied to members of Congress by Intel Community who can manipulate their desired outcomes. Ukraine is a most recent example. Members of Congress don’t really believe what is presented by Intel Briefers but are pressured to go along, sell it to the lapdog media and big tech, who sell it and manipulate the masses through fraudulent information and censored speech. It doesn’t get anymore obvious.
Where are all the Epstein Tapes and Documents that were stolen from Epstein’s safe upon his arrest?
Where do habitual perverts go now that Epstein’s Island was exposed?
Where are all the Epstein Clients?
If only -Twitter Files were really allowed . We could knock down this House of Cards. Let the cards land where the may.
We must save this Great Nation. I can’t ever stop hoping.
“Pressure points” . . . I heard that expression in the movie “Snowden”(directed by Oliver Stone, 2016) . . . when Edward Snowden was working in Geneva for the CIA and he was told to find the “pressure points” in someone’s life in order to initiate a chain of events which would bring that person into a terrible predicament in order to compel him to do something for the CIA agent.
So, what you are saying is that a large majority of Congresscritters are moral cowards. 🙂
I thought that was understood.
Morally deficient and willing to take money and pretend it doesn’t exist
Schumer remembers when Trump would hold fundraisers for him at Mar-a-Lago, so he did Trump a favor by warning him about what kind of trouble he would be bringing on himself by bucking the spy agencies.
Trump Hotel security tapes would be interesting.
You would think the Congressman would be smart enough to know he can’t trust the information from his intelligence community briefers – more to come with the Titter Files
He is. He’s just corrupt
Mike McCaul is not very smart!! I have thought that for a long time!!
He has always reminded me of a more stupid version of Kevin McCarthy.
The 2 ODNI cowards could have done a wiki leaks, but the GOP are just yellow bellied.
Elon, the good guy shining the light? Very unlikely.
Surveillance state, I’m sure it’s only for altruistic reasons.
“World domination. The same old dream. Our asylums are full of people who think they are Napoleon. Or God.”
I’m BatMan!
The Twitter Files represent a gateway of discovery into how government assisted creating “Oligarchical Systems.” Surveillance systems delivering mutual benefits called public-private partnerships were formed.
There is only one way to end the surveillance. Stop using social media
Exactly! One of the down side for the Partnership to remove or sensor conservatives off of Twitter is that they lose information and control of the Maga movement. So maybe the makeover with new lipstick is to pull back in Maga/conservatives.
You’d have to stop using the internet entirely and not have a smart phone.
Incoming Republican House Foreign Affairs Chairman -with a Drinking Problem – Calls Tucker Carlson an ‘Agent of Russia’ Based on DC Intel Briefing
Damn skipper Tucker would be pissed given his former friend Hunter Biden’s international activities.
They want Tucker on the leash for obvious reasons.
I actually watched the whole interview, instead of just the last part that SD had cued up. There was much that I didn’t know about Tuckers life, which I found very interesting, especially about his moving out of DC.
Thanks SD for posting this.
he moved out of DC after antifa/BLM protested outside his home in DC
Friend of Hunter Biden.
Very good video btw.
Beyond refreshing. It was sufficiently engaging and revelatory to keep me watching and listening through to the end. Thank you for including the full interview with this piece, Sundance.
Re: Rep Mike McCaul: He’s been hi-viz all over the internet landscape since the Election, and particularly weighing-in on Bannon’s Warroom, shooting off his mouth about the “hearings” he’s ready to launch on the afternoon of Jan. 3.
Tucker just called McCaul out as a “Neo-con” – and we all know what that means and where it leads in D.C.
“Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.” The more things change, the more they remain the same.
Thanks for linking to this fabulous interview sundance. Tulsi and Tucker proved the theory that identifying ourselves by party is becoming increasingly outdated.
Today, Glenn Greenwald proved that point well and also said, (paraphrased) that the MSM’s political outlets are getting increasingly angry and demented because they realize they are no longer needed and are increasingly losing their power over the people. This is why they lash out in ludicrous ways toward those that are replacing them.
Unfortunately, there are still millions that are stubbornly determined to remain devoted to media sources that tell them what to think rather than seek out sources that inform them with reason and evidence and then let them form their own opinion.
I’m a regular imperfect nobody here but I’ve noticed a few posters here that seem to be quick to fully condemn and reject others like Musk long before the final curtain has been drawn on their aspirations. Suspicious cat is a wise ally to have at your side including with Musk but unabated suspicion and a quick dismissal of someone based on one or more alleged negatives is also not necessarily the wisest approach. But given the past, it’s understandable.
Some guarded but temporary trust of others must be a part of any desired change. Our ancestors were certainly betrayed at times in their lives but they dealt with it and managed to trust others enough to build a decent society that is now crumbling. There are plenty of political culprits in the present that have exposed their treachery but there are also other players that are quickly being excoriated at the first suspicious sign.
So can we put some names and/or faces to any of these background operators?
Really getting beyond tired of being called a democracy.
We are a Republic and apparently we are not going to be able to keep it. Makes me sad.
Big tech is just tech support for the intel community.
The thing is, intel ops are SUPPOSED to be COVERT.
If they are overt, the results are generally counter productive, hence intel agents “work in the shadows”.
They seem to have forgotten that,…
Biden has gone to David rubenstein’s nantucket home 2 thanksgivings in a row.
Former Carlyle Group partners started staple street capital in 20teens with a large CCP investment and bought up basically all the voting machine companies in US including dominion just in time for the 2020 elections.
One might think some nefarious Shxt was happening.
draw your own conclusions.
Due your own research.
I guess the Congressman has no idea who Tucker’s dad is.
Hysterical. What a dumb **.
Dick Carlson, long -time head of Voice of America and the U.S. Infomation Agency. As for McCaul: Politicians that world over are the same… Mostly idiots.
Tucker is a Ukrainian agent and his real name is Tuckeriy Carlsonchenko.
In my opinion.:)
When Tucker spoke of the IC’s influence on members of congress through compromise/leverage the first person I thought of was Lindsey Graham.
All joking aside, he’s been described as single, yet we never see him out with a woman OR a man. It’s a bit horrible to think about but I can’t help wondering just how bad it is. Is it children? Animals? Corpses? Certain vegetables and fruits?
Inquiring minds sorta want to know, and sorta don’t. 🤢
As we’ve suspected for years, literal Mafia-esque threats – “Nice daughter you’ve got there, shame if something should happen to her” – received by anyone entering DC Mordor, is the only explanation that rings true as to why the corruption, and the astounding acquiescence to the corruption, is now in total control. The only remaining difference between “the Fourth Branch” and “the Mafia” is in the spelling of the words, and the terrifying fact that the Mafia now controlling things has access to the world’s most powerful surveillance apparatus. We should stop sugarcoating things by continuing the use of outdated phrases like “US government authorities” and “FBI officials” – “Crime Syndicate” is what we know it really is. Great to hear Tucker and Tulsi say these things out loud. Gutsy.
I suspect that Musk was actually chosen by the intelligence apparatus, as the corruption of Twitter was becoming obvious, even to normal users. Perhaps there was an intelligence conference (ah, something like Event 201??lol) Who does the public consider a ‘maverick’? Who would ostensibly have enough funds to purchase Twitter? Who does the public think is on their side? Hmmm…no, we cannot use most of the billionaires…for example, someone like Gates would never be believed. Ah, we have found the perfect person…Elon Musk! No one really identifies his deep connection to the US government in ALL of his projects. We will feed him info, distract the public, (and probably actually even FUND the alleged purchase of Twitter). This is nothing but a con job, a total distraction. And just like with covid, ‘normies’ are on board.
We are in a movie vortex… (Venn ) diagram
Cool. Perhaps a dash of Night of the Living Dead.
Russia on the brain.
Mike McCaul Texas republican… and agent of the CCP?
He’s pretty comfortable cozying up to mooslims, too.
Definitely necessary information and analysis but how do we get out of this mess? Carlson may be at risk now. We can’t afford to lose his voice.
I think it is incredibly naive to continue to pretend you can carve out and attempt to segregate “the 4th pillar”.
It’s the government Stupids!
Just like the Obama narrative, Google Facebook and others were were built by the government from near inception.
I find government and politics to be highly individualized to the person. For many there’s a very romanticized historical version of when things went sideways that’s usually not based on anything beyond their first political memory.
Zoom out 10k feet, this I’d just government doing what governments have always done. You’re a century too late to pretend you can simply pluck out it’s cancer.
Elon: does anyone need a USG security clearance before they can be hired by Jack’s Coffee House?
Sherman Skolnick was on to the Spook Detachment to the Transnational Oligarchy that presently has us in their grip way back in the 1960s. There was a Web site of his writings, but not coming up with Google.
They have to have you on social media in order to judge you for your ESG score. How can they determine your score if you’re not on social media?
“Welcome back to Twitter, under new management!”
Love the posted picture of Elon laughing at us as we gleefully get back on twitter.
Some never decided to take that pill to begin with.
Time to take it back. We are at war, and they will never just hand it over to us. We need a million armed patriot march on the Capital, just for starters.
One more time…After promising Phillip Haney support and protection for his DHS whistle blowing McCaul turned his back on him. Now Haney is mrdered ..dead.. and McCaul gets a chairmanship. Rather obvious.
All of this this BS, just reaffirms to me, that 911 was clearly an inside job, used to create the surveillance state.
And the same will be discovered for the release of Covid19, for control of the people, throughout the world.
Communism must be defeated…Period.
The deadly and hideous disease of communism will survive in perpetuity but it must be kept in check and destroyed and eviscerated from time to time.
“For the children.” of course.
If someone burns an American flag in protest of ( I don’t know) like lack of climate change funding it becomes a noble cause.
Burn a Ukraine flag ( I don’t know) like stop funding the war is becomes a hate crime. I think that’s the attests would be.
2 trillion is missing in the Pentagon’s budget. They claim they do not know where it is. It was cut out to help fund these black projects.
Dear CT, but they have been exposed. We know enough already, have assumed this was the case all along and are just getting some confirmation. They stand naked before us. So what do you mean they will not allow themselves to be exposed??
They are all beholden to something much larger. It isn’t just about America. Obama, his minions, etc…are all foot soldiers. You have to go deeper. It’s a world thing. And it involves “their” belief system about the planet, it’s origin and who they and we are. They…the mother weffers(New World Order, World Economic Forum, etc.) actually believe they are the guardians of this planet and us…or better put, the rulers. We…are the slaves of this planet and they have allowed us in certain parts of the world to have “too much freedom” and it’s time to reign us in. That’s what Covid was all about. That’s why they needed to out Trump. It’s the reason for the jab and all the other insanity. But again…why now? Well, as you know if you research, these entities continually have their little AGENDA 2030 type gatherings with their PANDEMIC type exercises. All the dots must be connected to see the whole picture. Digging…and you will know that they had an Agenda 2050. My understanding is that this IS Agenda 2030. The same thing…they only moved it up. Why? Not enough room to share all here…but in a word you can research yourself. Oumuamua. This is why the Vatican has and owns one of the most expansive and massive observatories in the world. What? Why would the Vatican have this? What would they be looking for out there? You say the second coming of Christ. I think not. The last thing they want is the Judgement. No…they have their sights set on something else. This goes to the root of who “they” are! And the word I gave you was their warning that the elites were behind schedule and will not be ready for “the event.” This is a celestial event recorded in ancient walls of caves and rocks in parts of the world down through the history of man. The Truth is and will be shocking to many. But what we have been told, taught and believe is not what is! And THAT is and was on purpose! It goes beyond all that we discuss and talk about here. We are never going back to what we thought and believed was normal!
Spiritual Warfare!
Makes you wonder if unbanning accounts is so those people can be more easily tracked and monitored
What a great interview! Share it.
Well certainly don’t stop using that social media tool of theirs.. Don’t put it down… No.. keep using it.. keep feeding it…
You wouldn’t want to actually free yourselves.. now would you.
I caught this last night. It’s really time well spent watching the whole thing. My epiphany was very similar to Tucker’s. I’ve long said Trump will be remembered as a great president because he exposed the truth in an undeniable way. He was a giant red pill and there’s no going back. He made them so crazy they exposed themselves completely. They stopped trying to even hide it.
The part about the Ceausecu’s still giving orders to their executioners only seconds before being executed is riveting. About 58:45 minutes in.
I only hope I live long enough to see the 44th and his ghastly bride make that same walk.
it is the perception of change, sprinkled with little truth crystals on top.
I can easily imagine Gabbard sitting in front of a camera or mirror practicing those facial expressions she does. She is too unreal, too practiced, too rehearsed.
Her handlers will pick up comments like this and soon she will be more spontaneous and personable.
She is a product.