Judge Timothy J Thomason has ruled the Maricopa, Arizona, board of elections must turn over 2.1 million ballots to the republican state senate so they can be reviewed for any election issues. [direct pdf of ruling here]
ARIZONA – The five-member Board of Supervisors argued that the ballots were secret, that the Legislature had no right to access them and that the subpoenas issued by Senate President Karen Fann were for an illegitimate purpose, among other arguments.
The Senate’s lawyers contended that the constitution gives the Legislature the role of maintaining the purity of elections and make sure voter integrity is protected, that the subpoenas were legal and a proper use of legislative power.
In his ruling, Thomason agreed with the Senate on all those arguments, saying the subpoenas “are legal and enforceable.”
“There is no question that the Senators have the power to issue legislative subpoenas,” Thomason wrote. “The Subpoenas comply with the statutory requirements for legislative subpoenas. The Senate also has broad constitutional power to oversee elections.
“The Arizona legislature clearly has the power to investigate and examine election reform matters,” the ruling says. “The Subpoenas also do not violate separation of powers principles. Production of the subpoenaed materials would not violate confidentiality laws.” (read more)
The Arizona Senate released the following statement:
As a result of this court decision, the Fox News election desk has just called Arizona for former President Donald J Trump.
Good one.
And chris wallace has resigned, and apologized… /s
Oh, so as a result the NEXT election will be fair. Riiiiight…. makes perfect sense.
Its such BS. There will be no remedy per the GD SCOTUS. Since ‘after the fact discoveries are all moot! As another wag commented, ‘Using that philosophy, all murders, bank thefts, stolen property cases are moot ‘after the fact’. No case to be heard. Lets all just move on.
Yup. To Cocaine Mitch’s GOPe: We’ll see you jackwagons in 2022..
In the meantime, we have a rebellion to foment.
there is “standing” for algore and unverified “hanging chads” in one state.
But there is no “standing” for voter fraud as evidenced by affidavits and other proof for multiple states. unbelievable bias by the SC.
The AZ legislature is busy enacting election safeguards for future elections right now.
Ok. Who knows what is going to be turned over assuming this decision survives appeals.
My guess is that the fraud was designed to survive significant levels of investigation and investigative discoveries.
They will need to look in pretty much exactly the right place because you can guarantee that there are multiple layers of processes to hide what was done.
For example if it was possible to identify the votes which went of to adjudication that would make the fraud glaringly obvious. So what I expect to find is that there is no way to know which votes when for adjudication. That sort of thing.
Anyway enough pessimism from me. This is a positive development.
Jovan Pulitzer.
Pulitzer is the poster child for “No evidence? Whaddya mean no evidence?”
-More PA votes than registered voters
-Statistically impossible absence of typical names like Smith, Jones, and Jackson in PA
-Registered PA voters with no siblings, parent, aunts, or uncles
-Stacks of pristine mail-in ballots in PA that never went through a post office
-PA ballots printed with votes marked, too perfect to be hand written
And that’s without digging out my bookmarked links to Jovan Pulitzer videos and interviews.
Add to that statistically impossible low rate of ballots with down ballot votes. Marked for Biden.
I’m a Pennsylvanian and our election was absolutely stolen. To add to your list:
Why the FBI is not all over this is beyond me. Oh wait, I know why…because they’re controlled by the deep state.
P.S. Bill Barr is singularly responsible for the downfall of this nation.
You mean the FIB!
Don’t forget the vote count being stopped at 11:15 PM and not resumed until the next morning in conjunction with the other swing states. Never happened before. No explanation given.
Yes. Assuming the actual fake ballots haven’t already been replaced by better fakes.
Forrest – I agree and think the ballots will either be ‘dirtied-up’ or destroyed
more likely they can’t produce the ballots because they were destroyed.
stay tuned and pass the popcorn.
Yes, the only certainty is that the frauds won’t confess soon or at all.
Or the Corn Pop.
I don’t agree. If it was so well hidden they wouldn’t have been going so hard to stop this. It just made them look more guilty.
I’m curious as to how Arizona Government works. Why isn’t the Arizona State Secretary ordering the Ballots to be examined and handed over? Where is the Governor in all this? I agree the ruling will be appealed but why didn’t the State legislature go DIRECTLY to the Arz supreme court? Let just hope some Obama Federal Judge doesn’t decide THE CONSTITUTION makes it illegal for the State Senate to review the Ballots. Don’t imagine they’re not above doing that.
Secretary of State is registered DemoCommieFascist. Governor is RINO.
Republicans in state legislature are establishment
HOORAY for AZ! Happy to have recently moved here. The AZ Senate has showed grit for the most part. “Let’s see what’s in them-ther votin’ machines”
Of course they can and they didnt need the fargin supreme court to say so. YOU ARE THE STATE SENATE for christsakes. Since when does a county over rule or get to ignore the STATE SENATE??
Since it was bought by the Dems…
Trust the Plan, the Durham report is forthcoming. Sessions will be a white hat. There is already copious amounts of election fraud evidence. This will end up being another strawman used to support the Uniparty narrative.
But it’s moot. Right Brett, right Amy?
So a board of elections is so certain of the integrity of their processes that they resist “transparency” and refuse to let those ultimately accountable— elected officials—review the results. Sure. That makes sense.
Total waste of time.
The Dems cheated, scammed, and lied.
And with no repercussions.
This is how nations fall.
Remember 2016 too. Dems’ Doomsday defense over reviewing the great irregularities there too.
I think that voting truth has been progessively suppressed for decades such that we really don’t know how weak the Dems are. Huge Smoke and Mirrors.
The cheaters have had 20 years to perfect the steal and conservatives have just started looking. We will find the truth
Find the rock adrien fontes is under and throw him in jail.
He is totally responsible for Maricopa Co, I should know. I live here and have witnessed this assho!e
…thus far, and counting (time, money, human efforts),
it has taken 4 months to verify election results – in just one county?
[ whereas it is previously legal to thoroughly do so, for decades – and have a verifiable process to ease the timely, quality team efforts towards 1 legal person, 1 legal vote
(and without being hideously split, and / mis-assigned (mis-adjudicated – and without volunteers, clerks, courts cowering from their full, honest, unbiased duties or legislative law(s).)).
[ yet, after 2016, a plethora of questions, doubt raising, investigations, accusations, occurred for 4 years…. both, before and after a 2017 inauguration… (not that the DOJ etc. wants to openly, timely, clarify) ]
…and since it’s been 4 months, could it become 22 months of gumming the works…(and have the ballots / equipment remained untainted – during the delays )?
Some panda, or dragon (and their pawns, rooks, biships etc.) wants to sustain its honor. Have no doubts about the extent of what would be done, or obfuscated …. ( to have ‘honor’ – while avoiding whole truth. A tricky mis-operation… in which some get (backwards – progressive) joy. )… 4 month$ and counting (but ironically, not counting what legally counts)
Meanwhile, dc practices silence … and / or seeks affirmative groupthink(s) on something, scientifically, or naturally, unproven (again)…etc.
[ yet, “it” was (routinely, politically, rubber stamp) ‘certified’ Jan 6-7 2021 … with only a few listening and raising a nimble, timely concern / question …. ]
Love thy neighbors
Since the Dems used various means and methods of fraud across the nation it’s not going to be a one size fits all solution, but there are certain similarities and patterns of fraud to be found in every State. Arizona should find it useful to check for dead voters, illegal aliens, out of State voters, double voters, under age voters, voters using a PO Box or business as a physical address, voters born on 01/01/1900 or 01/01/2000, mail in ballots that were not folded and mailed, fake ballots, and machine marked ballots.
Distinguish the purely fraudulent and illegal votes first to establish the irrefutable fact that a crime took place and that Arizona’s certification of it’s election results were erroneous. Leave the statistical anomalies and.impossible probabilities on the counting room floor and go for the hard facts of fraud that you can prove in a court of law.
By now the vote tallies, audit trails and server logs have been so compromised that a forensic analysis of the machine count would only add confusion to the mix and could actually serve to undermine any coherent argument you make. The use of such diagnostic evidence and any inconsistencies it might uncover could be used as supporting evidence of fraud, but don’t build your case on it. Be a Joe Friday and go after the “just the facts”, there’s more than enough fraud in just Maricopa county to overturn the Arizona election results, but why stop there?
Once you establish a pattern of fraud, then use that information to call for investigations in Puma County and elsewhere across the State where the numbers just don’t add up. Prove the fraud and the conspiracy and start putting people on trial. I’m sure Arizona has plenty of unoccupied anthills that could used to elicit the confessions we need…just sayin’.
“Methinks the Maricopa County Supervisors doth protest too much”. What are they hiding? Honest people have no objection to transparency.
Oh, that’s right. They helped steal the 2020 election for the globalists/swamp. They delivered Arizona to Biden through Maricopa County. Really can’t blame them for throwing up every roadblock to the scrutiny over their actions. They know they’re probably headed for jail.
Isn’t astounding that the Board Of Elections, who’s main purpose is to ensure valid votes and free, fair, elections in their Arizona county is FIGHTING tooth and nail to ensure no one can see the ballots and see if they are valid? What possible justification is there? Other than to cover up vote fraud?
And I’m even more amazed at the indifference shown by the Arz. Governor and the other Republicans. What possible VALID reason (plenty of invalid reasons) could there be to accept vote fraud, and not support a review? Is everyone now in favor of NOT KNOWING the Truth? And NOT knowing whether the votes were legal or not? What the heck is wrong with our Republican Leaders? Are they ALL Liars, fools, or paid off?
What’s wrong with Republican leaders, you ask?
They are 90% anti-Trump. Whether they profess to support him publicly or not, they align with never-Trumpers and the Lincoln Project behind our backs.
My hope is the poop will rise to the top. We get concrete evidence of fraud in order to look at PA, MI, GA, WS as well!
There is ample “concrete evidence” of fraud and illegal changes to state constitution laws NOW! It has already risen to the top, and no authority (courts) will touch it.
Note that appearing as counsel for the Board of Supervisors was Thomas P. Liddy, son of G. Gordon Liddy of Watergate fame. Tom Liddy is the Chief of the Civil Division of the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office and has been since 2017. In that capacity, he would have been advising the Supervisors throughout the 2020 election season on election matters and in charge of the election attorneys in his office. He would also have been instrumental in choosing any outside counsel.
Thomas P. Liddy’s brother, Raymond Liddy, a former Assistant U.S. Attorney in San Diego, California, was convicted in Federal Court for Possession of Child Pornography (relating to photos of prepubescent girls) in mid 2017. In September 2020, Raymond Liddy was sentenced to 5 years probation for his felony conviction. The Federal Judge indicated the sentence was “light” due in part to considerations relating to Covid.
By now, the ballots have been changed or lost.
Yep maybe, but there is this thing on the machine audit. It will show any changes in the logs.
Just like Atrim county in Michigan. If they erased or made changes it will show up. If it is wiped, like with a cloth it show up.
Tampering with evidence will be what gets them, imho.
I am praying that this audit will be the smoking gun.
Maybe they will hire the gentlemen that performed the audit in Atrimn county Michigan. The cheaters were caught in that county. Hopefully another case will be in New Hampshire, because they are onto the traitors game now.
Please just one honest prosecutor, take these traitors to the cleaners.
They caught what the cheaters done, but no prosecution as of yet. Still praying
But Wait! There’s More!
Arizona Democrats took a page from the Pelousi Playbook and accused AZ Rep Mark Finchem of sedition, insurrection, treason, and a whole bunch of other things, none of which are true in any way, shape, or form.
So, Rep Finchem sued ’em.
Sued them all.
Sued every last one of the lying AZ Democrats.
For defamation.
CPAC 2021: Rep. Mark Finchem on Suing Members of the Arizona House and Senate for Defamation” 14:35
Big mistake.
Big.
Yuge!
Y’all spose the tyrants will ever figure out –
We Don’t Quit
Ever
As heard on another radio show, the big fib, IS the big fib.
The (Marxist etal) Big FIB (there was no election fraud, and there was an insurrection at capital by dt upon innocent politicians)
is
the (marxist) Big FIB (there was elect fraud being ignored, and not dt,, but others were the provoker’s and bad actors (figuratively, and actually) etc
of bad actors in an otherwise peaceful walk along dc )
– and (mis) leaders are obfuscating, slow walking the truths (again)…
Buy like natural milk from a natural cow,
the cream (truth) does ride to the top of the milk, over time. (all of the time…which is why some work to stir, spin, mix it up…).
imho
It’s going to come down to a reputable 3rd party auditor with the audit conducted under a court recognized audit firm. However both of those firms already ran their awful audits and whitewashed the election results. Not to mention that much evidence of malfeasance has likely been destroyed. Nothing to see here move along.
What can you do when the court approved forensic auditors are just as corrupt? As an IT professional with decades of experience, I can say without a doubt that the Dominion hardware and software is absolute garbage and is wide open to attacks on so many vectors it is swiss cheese. They run vulnerable operating systems, terrible applications, and the databases are not properly built. It would be child’s play to compromise the election results. But the worst of it is the human operators can alter digitally scanned ballots and the scanners can be tuned to reject increasing amounts of ballots that require human review and alteration (adjudication is the term they used). These operators were allowed to perform the adjudication without any oversight or bi-partisan review. Unlike when paper ballots that won’t scan need to be reviewed by humans and a new ballot is copied over and both GOP / DEM overseers agree it was transcribed appropriately before being run through the scanner.
A true forensic audit would look at the paper, the ink, the folds, the envelope. Software auditing would reveal all the problems with the Dominion software that allowd for data to be manipulated. Multiple ballots could be scanned multiple times and where is the check and balance to prevent that? There may be some trace to show the device did connect to the Internet if found in OS logs and diagnostic logs providing they haven’t been wiped out. Otherwise the logging would have to be determined else where such as the Internet provider’s network but those logs might not exist anymore. Unless someone caught them redhanded and could prove it via computer network evidence that’s been preserved.
Sadly, I do not trust that this audit process will result in any changes in Arizona election fraud. It will somehow be torpedoed and sunk.
Follow Lyle Rapacki
https://prescottenews.com/index.php/2021/02/08/update-on-the-arizona-senates-contempt-resolution/
Sometimes lawyers fight to suppress discovery of perfectly harmless records. This wastes the other party’s funds, and when the records are eventually released and shown to be irrelevant, the trust of the judge is lost for the party seeking the records. It also dissipates focus and effort to obtain the actual damaging records and evidence.
Here, it is possible (though not probable) that the GOPe is withholding records which show a small amount of vote fraud, but not as blatant as that of other places like philly, detroit, atlanta, miami, milwaukee, madison, minneapolis, chicago et al. If the ‘audit’ turns out OK (by hook or crook), that will harm review of other, likely larger vote fraud venues.
The election board knew they were going to loose. This was a stall to give time to implement additional levels of evidence destruction. Forensics are very good today if done right at very least the methodology of the fraud should be exposed. But if the crooks did their job well enough it will be insufficient for a successful criminal trial or for a SCOTUS review. I hope I’m wrong.