Now that Wall Street’s U.S. Chamber of Commerce has dropped their mask, we see decepticon Tom Donohue align with corrupt labor union leader Richard Trumka.
The dark-forces now align to retain personal power, increase their own wealth, diminish Main Street, and win the 2020 election at all costs. A remarkable realignment of anti-American individuals for a specific and self-interested purpose. Despite the stunning alignment I doubt conservative media will admit their role in selling decades of fraud.
Perhaps now people will wake-up…. Perhaps now those suffering from battered conservative syndrome will take a new look at their abusers…. Perhaps now the larger American electorate will re-evaluate… Perhaps now people will understand the scale of opposition… Perhaps now people will absorb what “trillions at stake means”…
WASHINGTON – The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is endorsing 18 House Democrats who voted in favor of raising the federal minimum wage to $15, a policy the business group said would cost the country 3.7 million jobs.
The endorsements are part of a decision from the group’s political advocacy committee to back a slate of 23 freshman House Democrats and 29 freshman Republicans, according to an internal memo obtained by the Hill. Of the 23 Democrats endorsed by the chamber, 18 voted in favor of the Raise the Wage Act of 2019, which would more than double the federal minimum wage to $15 by 2025.
The endorsements could alienate top conservative donors and members, threatening the chamber’s historical status as a Republican electoral powerhouse. The group backed just seven Democrats in 2018—compared with 191 Republicans—and has given nearly $3.1 million in direct contributions to Republicans since 2000. The chamber was also a strong proponent of the 2017 tax cuts championed by President Donald Trump, crediting the move with “unleashing a new era of growth for the American economy.”
By contrast, the chamber has vehemently opposed the Raise the Wage Act. Executive vice president and chief policy officer Neil Bradley urged House members to vote against it in a July 2019 letter, citing a then-recent Congressional Budget Office report. The report found that the bill “would have disruptive impacts on employers, particularly small businesses, as well as negative effects on the job opportunities for first and lower skilled workers,” according to Bradley.
“The report stated that, when fully implemented, a $15 per hour minimum wage could result in as many as 3.7 million workers losing jobs and total real family income dropping by $9 billion,” Bradley wrote. He went on to pledge to “strongly oppose and work against the current politically driven proposal to more than double the minimum wage to $15 per hour.”
Competitive Enterprise Institute research fellow Sean Higgins questioned the endorsements, telling the Washington Free Beacon that there’s “no strong, rational argument” for a nationwide $15 minimum wage. (read more)
The article goes on to share how confused the central CoC support base is now that the chamber is openly opposing Main Street and the U.S. economy. Perhaps these confused people were genuinely duped by the CoC over the past several decades; I doubt it, but indulgent cocktail club invitations do have a tendency to fool the willfully blind.
Regardless of how this revelation and alignment is absorbed by the business community, let there be no doubt of the intent. The corrupt CoC is aligning with corrupt big labor for a very specific purpose: to retain their own power and affluence as they sell out Main Street.
This is the danger just below the surface that has always been present. This is the toxic agenda that created the rust belt. Tom Donohue and Richard Trumka make millions while watching the base of the movement they lead suffer severe economic collapse. This is the larger agenda that has always existed, yet so many have denied, and denied, and denied.
Every former administration took massive payments from the CoC and allowed the Chamber to write trade agreements language for decades. The CoC business model was to take payments from Wall Street multinationals and then write the agreements to their benefit. Politicians were paid to keep quiet and support the CoC. The chamber is the largest lobby organization in DC. The chamber spends more money on influence than any other lobbying group by a massive amount. The CoC is at the heart of DC corruption.
President Trump knew about the CoC business model; that’s why he never allowed them a seat at the ‘America First’ table. That was the original source of our support for candidate Donald Trump.
…“It must be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to plan, more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to manage than a new system. For the initiator has the enmity of all who would profit by the preservation of the old institution and merely lukewarm defenders in those who gain by the new ones.”…
Enemy of the people!
Also enemies of math and economics. Every time min wage is bumped up, a million plus lose their jobs. AOC worked at a joint with over 100 employees. It shut down over mandatory wage increases.
When textile mills kept up with rising min wages, they raised prices and hospitals went to disposables. (and hospitals paid more in the laundry so they laid off laundry workers)
Fast food joints are buying automation. Save on labor units.
A pneumatic nail gun cuts the labor units in shingling a roof by over 50%.
They know that, and they want that.
This is what fascism looks like.
I dont like minimum wages.I come from an industry- independent trucking where how much money I make is determined by my own efforts.Even so, my income is limited by the government as I can only work 70 hours in an 8 day cycle.Whenever someone tells you how much money you can make by limiting your hours or with a wage cap/ minimum wage– you are a serf. Contrast this with the politicians that have no wage ceiling by design.They can make millions above their base pay,with all the benifits they can vote for themselves.
Raising the minimum wage to $15 is Global Warming lite.
The increased cost of labor embeds itself into everything you buy. When the new higher shelf price is taxed. (In many blue cities 10% sales tax) the state gets an automatic tax rake in from the wage increase.
In places like Los Angeles where there are housing shortages, the landlords ending up getting all of the wage increases given to the workers. The only people who won were the unions because they all work for government and now the government has more money to pay union wages.
It is never about the people. It is the politicians job to make it appear so.
AND VERY PRESCIENT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP…
Had to study Machiavelli’s “The Prince” in college…
Tango Yankee Sundance…VERY ASTUTE…
The photo really says it all.
This election is showing all thinking Americans just who is standing with them and who is opposing them. All the Democrats and perhaps 75% Republicans are owned and controlled by the globalists elites: Rothschilds, Schiffs, Rockefellers, etc. This is our last stand. We either elect people to stand for We the People or we will literally die as slaves. Our choice – Vote Trump and MAGA Patriots in November.
You are absolutely correct and sadly, at least 75% of Americans (most of whom vote) have absolutely NO idea what is really happening and continue to insist that “their” rep is one of the “good” ones!
Doesn’t matter if they are a Biden supporter, love Bernie, or hang on every word that they hear on FOX News, they are clueless and therefore will continue to believe that it’s “those guys” who are the problem and that if they can only get a few more Rs (or Ds depending on their perspective) elected, everything will FINALLY turn around!
And both parties laugh at them from behind the closed doors where all the REAL deals are made…to their benefit and out detriment!
Aside from Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz in the House who are the MAGA supporters? There aren’t any. Certainly none in the Senate except maybe Hawley. Yet Trump has to support the re-election of GOP establishment RINOs or the Dems will impeach him.
Dan Crenshaw from Texas
/snicker Dan Crenshaw? Are you trying to be ironic? Or obtuse?
Let the sun shine down…………………even the big boys are panicked, they’re like cockroaches when the light comes on.
US COC = U Suck COC
Truth is it wont matter… to hell with the CoC…
The PEOPLE wont be bought for $15/hr…
Talk about slave wages… smh
Remember, each state has an amount above the Federal minimum. That would raise prices beyond most people’s grasp, even for basic food.
And it would wipe out student jobs. Business owners would not be able to afford to hire unskilled entry labor.
“And it would wipe out student jobs. Business owners would not be able to afford to hire unskilled entry labor.”
How many ways can this go wrong?
Three choices young people from any economic class can make to secure a stable lifestyle:
1 Finish high school while working a part time job,
2. Get a full time job after graduation,
3. Get married before having children.
Obviously, Tom Donahue and his cronies have never run a start-up operation or they would recognize the foolishness of requiring any specific minimum wage for trainees. A trainee should get paid for the value added to the bottom line. In my experience, a good trainee will get paid appropriately. Heck, I hired my employees’ youngsters of 5 to 9 years old to stuff and stamp envelopes after school. The oldest quickly learned how to organize the troops and they all earned their paychecks.
You bet. I LOVED my after school,jobs!
Me, too! Worked from age 13 and learned SO MUCH that I used later in life.
Yep, they are the ones that teach you the basics!
And speaking of food… as was done in Russia (the Ukrainian Holodomor) and China (the Great Famine) to name just two… food can and will be used as a weapon here in America. Don’t think so? Contemplate the electronic use of “food stamps”, critical choke-points in “next day” delivery, where food is produced (Red vs Blue states). Not to mention the Modern Monetary Theory being practiced by today’s Congress (finding any chairs when the music stops?)
We’ve seen this movie before and it is about to be redistributed for new (and old) audiences.
We need a LOT of prayer…and action.
“And it would wipe out student jobs. Business owners would not be able to afford to hire unskilled entry labor.”
Agree…But IMHO it is not entry level positions that are being targeted. Those are primarily very small business operations (other than perhaps the fast food industry). The target here, I believe, is mainstream business just past entry level where a higher minimum wage gives business a reasonable justification to move some portion of their operation offshore….In the name of “not shutting down completely…”
Their twisted logic would be that moving “some” production offshore actually benefits the US economy because otherwise, rather than moving say, 1000 jobs overseas, they would be shutting down & losing 5000 jobs nationally…
You can bet they already know where the “price point” is for optimal minimum wage verses overall job retention nationally. It is now just a matter of implementing the strategy.
See how that logic works to their benefit? LOL
Yes, every job up.the ladder is negatively affected, to the point of middle production being wiped out.
WSB, you are right as to the inflationary outcomes…
My point is that the public in general is not going to be overwhelmingly motivated by $15 per hour…. IT is a minimum wage, and mostly for youngsters in their first time in job market…
Most adults on the lower income levels have recent empirical evidence that PDJT’s lift all boats economy was producing pay scale above $15…
I know that going back 40 yrs $15 is below what I needed even then…
That minimum wage is what one should expect at high school levels, so skills can be added in college or trade school. This is not and was never meant to be a living wage.
My first job at fifteen was $7.95 in a convenience store, and by the time I was midway through college I was at $17.50.
However, in between that time I found work in my intended field so I could move up to a NYC architecture firm in my second year of college.
One must have a plan…
Damn right WSB… I agree 100% with is comment and your original post…
Keep fighting Brother…
Marxism
There is no guarantee by the unskilled worker that he will produce 15 dollars worth of labor. In fact unskilled workers cost more than 15 by reason of cost of mistakes, low quality of work and expense of needing more supervision.
^^^THIS^^^
But, but, but….. I can’t afford my own apartment or house on $10 per hour, nor a 65″ flatscreen and all the goodies I want – deluxe laptop, Playstation, late model car or truck, nice clothes, a new smart phone every other year, tickets for rock concerts every month, etc etc etc…. Oh and I cant afford deluxe healthcare either.
I need $15 per hour or more to afford all that! I deserve it! It’s my RIGHT! I demand it!
Did you ever notice how many ads use the phrase “and you deserve…”? Really?
Oh yes. That phrase has not escaped my notice. It’s very seductive marketing…appealing to our very base level feelings / desires.
As a businessman in the skilled trades I can attest to that, Harvey.
And you can add to the cost the thirty dollar an hour guy who has to spend additional time fixing the mistakes of the rookies. Which is really 45 dollars an hour because in my business that adds to OT hours. And beyond the actual wages paid the increase in my unemployment insurance and workmans comp insurance I pay due to the increased payroll.
I do concrete flatwork. A mistake in a task as simple as grading the job can cost me hundreds of dollars. Concrete costs $130/yard. A grade that is 10% thicker than needed over a small pour of 10 yards, or 810 square feet, can cost me a couple hundred dollars through cost of concrete and a small load charge because we run short. And then the time spent waiting for the second truck and the time spent finishing that second truck that shows up an hour later. Multiply that by the approximately 200k/month in material costs and 30k/month in labor costs plus the workers comp and unemployment.
Rookies end up costing me almost the same as seasoned veterans and I get a small percentage of the return. Hopefully the rookie will grow into the job and eventually become productive. But id guess that less than 10% stick around long enough for that to occur.
Purple ties unite.
What does all the purple mean? Like when Hillary wore that atrocious purple upon her ‘tragic’ loss in 2016? Seriously asking..
Revolution or resistance.
I thought maybe it was the same color as SEIU too so maybe means ‘the ends justify the means’ i.e. fist power
Some have said color of “royalty” where I also believe it’s the intentional blend of parties red (Rep) & blue (Dem) coz highly ranked politicians of both sides as have media talking heads at times have worn it in some form.
I always notice Trey Gowdy ONLY wears purple ties. /eyeroll. I dislike that man so much.
Yep, fits the pattern of rino, lost a sure seat in the house because he quit, also key reason why Benghazi hearings never went further.
A high minimum wage leads to robots entering the workforce.
Big companies can afford these robots; small companies cannot.
A high minimum wage forces small companies out of business, and replaces them with big companies that use robots — resulting in massive unemployment.
Global companies write laws to benefit themselves. They own the Congress — but they don’t own Trump.
Mostly it leads to illegal immigrants working for nothing under the table.
Hence the support for unrestricted illegal immigration.
The benefits would include mass unemployment of former minimum wage folks, especially POCs, and a large pool of voters. And manufacturing would still remain overseas.
Just double all the fast food price lists.
There is a point where the price of fast food is so much that you make it at home for much cheaper. For instance, I can buy a double burger from burger king (without catsup) for $1.59, bring it home and add in more pickles, tomatoes, onions, and mustard without dirtying a pan. If that went up to $2,50, I would start freezing burger patties and use a pan.
I buy delicious Angus frozen patties form Costco. They are thick and delicious. It takes 10 minutes to grill em hot. The box of 12 patties is about 11 bucks or so. That’s just under a dollar a burger. Then I buy whatever pack of 8 buns I like for 2.50 or so, that being 31c a bun. So each delicious burger with whatever the heck I want on it from the condiments we buy anyway and are always in the fridge cost me about $1.45 each lets say.
That results in a thicker, better quality burger. A better fancy bun and only 12 total minutes of my time. My family of 4, for dinner, that’s $5.80 an entree and typically get each person an ear of corn ($3 bucks for 4 ears), a box of fresh salad greens of your choosing- (about 2bucks) and a half a bag of frozen fries which costs about $3 a bag, and you have a nice dinner for a family of 4 for about $10.50, let’s round that to $11 dollars.
That feeds a family of 4 for the price of feeding just 1.5 people (1.5 “deal meals”) at most fast food places, and the fast food meals are less food by far.
If you do it with fresh ground beef and take the time to make your own patties it can drop by another $2 total, though that adds about 20 minutes extra of total prep time that I don’t have most weekdays.
The same relative equation works for non-burgers: steaks, tuna steaks, pork loins, chicken (even cheaper) any way you like it. Etc.
We go out to eat once a week and don’t hold back as a noted budgetary “luxury” line item. I do pretty dang well too, and could afford to eat out every night if we wanted. But then, our savings account would not look at nice as it does now, and then I’d be all bent out of shape whenever a surprise expense comes up, stead it not being a problem– which as we all know, happens almost every month.
Oh, I usually have that burger for lunch. But I bought a large freezer in January at the first sign of a pandemic. I used that to get it past the wife. It is loaded. We get a 5 lb 90% meat from Sams for $15. The first night we have burgers, the second and third its tacos. But I am thinking of making the whole 5 lbs into burger patties and freezing most of them.
Good cop bad cop. Its all theater. I truly pray we have a landslide win for Team Trump & House & Senate. Then if the folks that list themselves as “R’s” do not act then it’s time for the people to act. Article V convention of States & repeal 17th amendment and put Senators in Washington at the discretion of the various State Houses (50 states not 57+3) as the founders intended and worked until Woodrow Wilson.
CoS scares the bejeezus out of me. Im afraid what these criminals will codify into our Constitution. There are too many stealth enemies of the People in our local governments for me to feel comfortable with a CoS.
I used to waffle back and forth on a CoS. For a while I thought it would be a good idea. Then I was exposed 3 years ago to how corrupt our swamp at every level of government truly is.
Now I think the CoS would be the same as voting the leader of Antifa in as President and all its members filling up Congress.’
The only thing I think that could be good coming out of a CoS, were it held, would be total dissolution of the Union.
I fear having a perfectly good amendment being compromised then the RINOs chipping in, then we end up doing exactly the opposite of what we intended.
I retired having worked in manufacturing all my adult life.
I have worked in both union and non-union shops. People who work those hourly-paid jobs vote
a) to preserve their jobs
b) for the candidate that will get the the most money.
The public service (Public Service?!? hahahahahahahjaha!!!) unions vote B, which is almost always the Democrat candidate. There are few exceptions. I suppose because they will accept a RINO who winks and pays them off.
So based on my experience in manufacturing, dating back to 1973, I’d guess that a h-u-u-u-ge percentage of people who make stuff (and who know who Ross Perot is) will vote to re-elect President Trump.
The Public Service unions? I suspect the members will vote Business As Usual (Democrat) except for those that are put off by the rioting. On a bright note, I think there are a bunch of them that are put off by the rioting.
Well you obviously and definitely watched our manufacturing and engineering capabilities shrink to nothing remarkable and be shipped off beyond our borders in favor of a global list empire like I did. . .
There is no rational reason for public service unions to exist. Even FDR agreed. On the other hand, there is a rational basis for private sector unions to exist..
However, it is unfortunate when so called leaders like Trumpka use union dues to sell out union members ‘ interests to his globalist democrat party overlords.
Judge Smails at it again. Despicable
Hahaha I have been scratching my head for years trying to figure out who he looks like!
No wonder he hates President Czervik.
But who does that makes Ty Webb??
Once we get through this election where we have to vote Republican to get Trump, let’s dump both the Republicans and the Democrats. The time is ripe now for a truly independent, anti-corruption, anti-communist, anti-Marxist, anti-pedophile, anti-abuser, true Libertarian party, PRO AMERICA party. And no, NEVER TRUMPERS ARE NOT ALLOWED!!
The Independents I have met has taught me they are the party that cannot agree even 60% on anything. I would go with a new party.
Judge Smails at it again, terrible
I believe the union rank and file will support PDJT regardless of their leaders spewing vomit.
Most blue collar workers don’t have a clue about the CoC.
If anything they associate it with Big Business. Since Big Business is against Donald J Trump, it might push them towards him. They’re also not dumb, they understand that a higher minimum wage would mean fewer apprenticeships for their children and younger siblings.
Money talks and and bull shit walks is the way I see it.
By increasing the cost of production in America it helps China to maintain lower costs.
The Chamber of Commerce is a Chinese Communist Party front.
Good point. Not that they would move production back to the US under any circumstances now.
I’m a car guy, so all the various high-end dealerships spam me with endless offers for various things. Lamborghini of Palm Beach offered me a Huracan lease for $1,600 a month. With taxes, that’s about what a minimum wage worker cost me for a month. So I now think of it in those terms. A minimum wage guy to sweep the floor costs me a Lamborghini. If they were to raise the minimum wage to $15, now it would cost me two Lamborghinis. Just to have a guy sweep the floor. The problem with our economy is not that the minimum wage is too low, is that the next rung of the ladder got sent to China. Instead of trying to adjust minimum wage to support a family, we need to bring back the breadwinner jobs that people worked their way up into.
Thank You. That is a very important point. We like to say, “Kids today just don’t want to work for anything.” But the reality is there is much to inspire them. So many go to college because the other paths are too iffy. I like Mike Rowe and his determination to give folks an alternative to college. He is working hard to show young kids the path in the trades. A lot of the trades is like learning another world culture and language. It almost seems sleazy in the unions (from the outside) kind of like the government jobs.
Love Mike Rowe!
LOL- ‘alienated conservative donors’ = National Review types whose condescending disdain for the shrinking middle class is finally hitting a wall of reality
Perhaps I’m naive.
This exposes them for what they are and to continue to deny what is plainly in front of you is to be willfully ignorant. Plus those few that were still on the fence and for whatever the reason now choose to vote D will be insignificant in numbers while we rid ourselves of the nay sayers.
Could be wrong, dunno.
I read in a most important book that contains sage advice that the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. Donahue is a lover of money.
Yes it, but who will give up their dollar to educate their children? Children are the problem. They are being taught Communism while parents chase the dollar! Better to eat ground beef than steak, and do it in freedom!
Agree wholeheartedly. Even though we couldn’t afford it financially at the time, my wife stayed home with our daughter throughout her school years. The value of that relationship is worth more than any amount of money.
“Perhaps now those suffering from battered conservative syndrome will take a new look at their abusers…“ I was one of these people. I believed Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio,Trey Gowdy etc. They told us Tea Party Patriots, “Just give us the House, the Senate, the Presidency”…. it was all lies.
The Uniparty wins every time.
Until Trump.
I’m no longer a Republican,
I’m a Trump Republican. He has reshaped our party. I feel like we’re finally being heard. I want to believe the Tea Party helped pave the way for President Trump. We were people who never protested or made stink, but you can only push a free people so far. I thank God He gave us Donald J Trump.
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If this doesn’t prove these people are out of touch, I don’t know what does.
They decimate businesses w/ Covid restrictions and rioting/looting that many of them will NEVER recover from. And NOW they want a 15/hr. min. wage?
Talk about putting the cart a million miles before the horse.
What PLANET do these people live on?
One of the Antifa terrorists said that they are destroying small businesses because they do not provide the higher salaries, pensions, and benefits that the large corporations do. Even this is BS as the large companies are importing huge numbers of H1B and H2B foreigners because they work for less and they don’t have to pay pensions.
In the day of 401ks and Roths do any companies pay pensions anymore? I know the company I worked for introduced a 401k program in the 1990s and stopped allowing new employees to join their pension system. It seems that Congress approved a bill that made pensions at least twice as expensive for employers around that time. It was so bad that owners could not sell their companies because of the pension liabilities.
I would tack a $20 minimum wage on all members of the US Chamber of Commerce.
I guess the way the CoC figures it, once they and China Joe sent every job possible over to China, there wouldn’t be to many jobs left to pay $15.00 an hour.
A more fitting name would be: The Multinational Chamber of Corporatism
Consider too that (they know) that a lot of this is virtue signaling for the useful idiots. The coming (hyper)inflation produced by the Wall Street / multinational corporations’ “Federal Reserve System” money creation will, before long, make $15 / hour a mere pittance from a purchasing power standpoint.
When the $15 / hour useful idiots find that they’re still poor, the Chamber types will reply: “What are you talking about? You recently got bumped up to the ‘living wage’ of $15 an hour!”
40 hrs / wk is 2080 hrs/ yr. Call it 2000.
The average profit for an employer of a min wage job is about $3/hr. $6,000 / yr.
If the Min Wage is raised beyond what that employee provides in net profit to the employer, it is smarter to shut down the business and lay off the employees. Otherwise, the employer is paying to lose money.
Min wage jobs are NEVER meant to be lifetime employment. Simply one rung on the ladder to self made success. Any other view of the min wage job is unrealistic.
People who want to live their lives forever based on a Min Wage job have no concept of economics, reality, future, inflation, responsibility, or their own skills. Min Wage Jobs are for Min Skills that contribute Min worth to the employer. Necessary jobs, but not meant to be lifetime careers.
If the proponents of x $/Hr “Living Wage” jobs had to provide the overhead, insurance, taxes, and costs of those Min Wage jobs, they’d faint when faced with the economic realities.
Life isn’t an exercise in “demanding charity” unless you are a child. Children need to grow up, politicians need to stop lying, economics needs to be taught factually, and the people who choose not to become, or fail to become, worth more in the marketplace of performance and productivity need to accept the choices they have made for themselves. Yes Life Sucks. Poverty sucks as well. I spent my time mopping floors and gardening and such stuff. I’m not unfeeling to human tragedy, but I’m not inclined to shovel money into a furnace for the never ending benefit of idiots who refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions. Time to grow up.
I agree with most of what you wrote, but I vehemently disagree with the statement that “Yes, life sucks”.
Life is awesome. Life is all we have in this world. We must all live life to the fullest that we are able to do. Even when our current situation “sucks”, as many may contend is the current situation.
Let me please add, I know what you meant, when you wrote “life sucks”. What I wrote was not an attack on you in any way.
The Chamber of Commerce just endorsed Democrat Abagail Spanberger in the 7th District of VA. *SPIT*. No words for how hopping mad this makes me.
https://starexponent.com/news/local/u-s-chamber-of-commerce-supports-spanberger-for-second-term/article_95e1ed11-7781-5e60-ae2d-d95525f960b9.html
If you have an extra $5 bucks please send it Nick’s way. It is going to be a very tough battle.
https://www.nickforva.com
Which businesses are going to be paying ANYTHING per hour when they can’t even open?
$15 x 2080 hours = $31,200 per year, gross or $2,400 gross, before taxes.
In CA that is not a lot of money for a family of any size, given rent is often way over $1500/month. I suspect that amount of money will go a lot further in most states not near either coast.
I am not arguing for or against the $15 minimum wage. I suspect that the $15 rate is a result of the east and west coast politicians pushing the rate.
$2,400 gross per month, before taxes.
No “before taxes”. People who gross that in a year don’t pay any taxes. In fact, I believe they get money each tax time due to “Credits” for children and such from the fed-gov.
A lot of folks are missing the dynamic here a higher minimum wage how there wages overall. Without wage disparity have a do you reward work, training or sucess. That meansand jobs to china.
Let me offer a caveat, a lot of money was put into compulsive spenders hands. That kept our economy floating but the inflation of consumables were obvious. We picked up 3 trillion in new debt. What if we have the inflation of the seventies 13- 25 percent what will that do to our currency. I know doom and gloom BUT our debt is not tied to inflation and refinanced at zero and near zero. All our foreign dept is in dollars. Our dollar holders take a haircut as well as all our debtors. Domestic Low dollar holders under 1/4 mil could be made whole.
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Connect this to Sundance’s exhortation. We are still on the battlefield and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Trump’s friends are US and we must put aside our frustration with putting a few of the enemy in jail and fight the battle in front of us–which is the election.
Barr might be able to put Brennan behind bars, eventually, but he can’t round up the whole Chamber of Commerce and imprison them. It’s our job to defeat them on the battlefield.
“and has given nearly $3.1 million in direct contributions to Republicans since 2000.”
3.1 million from 2000-2020, a ten yr. period equals $300,000 per year.
I don’t think $300,000 per yr. Spread among appx. 275 plus or minus Republicans buys a lot of influence in DC. That’s a paltry $1000 per republican per yr. Individuals give more than that to a congressman or Senator.
I am in no way defending the CoC, but just stating a fact based on SD’s figure of
3.1 mil in 20 yrs. Maybe he meant 3.1 billion.
Does the $15 min. wage go into effect immediately or does it increase one dollar a yr. For the next 5 yrs to get to $15 by 2025? What is the current min. wage? What percentage would it increase each yr? If it computes to 10% wage increase per yr. would that be in line with average wage increase for the average worker or would that be excessive.
Higher min. wage will always drive up all wages for all hourly workers. That is never factored in by the pols or CoC.
A person making $15 hr. 40 hrs per week is making $2400 per mo. or $28,800 per yr. Let’s face it, that’s not a lot of money. I know min. wage jobs are supposed to be entry level jobs, but for some people they never advance above that level.
As taxpayers, we should be supportive of higher min. wages for the working poor. If a higher wage gets them off of govt. welfare programs, we as tax payers benefit. Right now taxpayers are subsidizing the employers of the working poor.
The way I see it, the person who would fall into the min. wage category can be gainfully employed and useful and paid enough to keep him/her off of the welfare programs, or we as taxpayers can pay them not to work or subsidize those who work but don’t make enough to live on. I guess either way, we pay. Taxes or higher prices .
How many people in America work for less than
$15 hr.?
There are no free lunches.
You can pay me now or you can pay me later. But one way or the other the working poor are going to get paid.
Only 2% of the workforce makes minimum wage.
That’s 1.7 million out of 80 million people.
That’s not a very big constituency.
“The group backed just seven Democrats in 2018—compared with 191 Republicans—and has given nearly $3.1 million in direct contributions to Republicans since 2000. The chamber was also a strong proponent of the 2017 tax cuts championed by President Donald Trump, crediting the move with “unleashing a new era of growth for the American economy.””
Is this correct? 3.1 million over 20 years is not enough to get Pelosi to wiggle her ugly eyebrow.
Is this a typo? Should it be $3.1 billion? or $3.1 trillion?
Minium wage wont do anything. It just gurantees prices to go up. How much more increases can we take? Even 15 an hour in the dem run cities isnt enough to live on. This minium wage bs is just another division tactic. We have divisions by race, income, religion. Almost as bad as Buffet saying he wants to pay more taxes.(I bet he doesnt pay any, and why doesnt he just write a check to the IRS?) The real problem are the printing presses or Federal funding, or wasteful spending/money laundering, whatever you wanna call it. Create so much inflation with debt and our money is worth less and less.
I believe that most low wage earners know all too well that the $15 an hour minimum wage has already been implemented with the result of huge numbers of people being laid off. I seriously doubt if this issue will be important in November. The good news is that President Trump will win in November in a landslide. The bad news is that the democrats will then proceed to falsify mail in ballots for the next month to steal the election. The mail in voting must be stopped or the bad guys may well win.
even thought that photo of Donahue and Trumka is old, they wore the same tie to the hearing.
“or they would recognize the foolishness of requiring any specific minimum wage for trainees.”
^^^^^^^THIS ^^^^^^
“or they would recognize the foolishness”
thinking the CoC and politicians are “foolish” or that
“they just dont get it”
this is extremely dangerous.. . .
tbey know EXACTLY what they are doing
this is the danger of the left / right
conservative / liberal paradigm
if one is convinced thier opponent is stupid or foolish
one relaxes opposition;
and in that moment,
is already in a weakened position
If we didn’t have open borders and one-sided trade deals, the minimum wage would be irrelevant as working people would have higher wages naturally. The market for labor would be allowed to operate naturally, without artificial boosts to labor supply and hits to labor demand. Only a few at the top benefit from open borders and bad trade deals. The minimum wage issue is a way to divert attention from why wages are low in the first place.
– The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is endorsing 18 House Democrats who voted in favor of raising the federal minimum wage to $15, a policy the business group said would cost the country 3.7 million jobs.
In a world with 26+ million living on unemployment (most which would be earning this $15/hr wage if it was in place).
It is not a hard stretch to see the realities of the Covid shut downs for it is. A test platform towards and for what aome might call basic universal income. Second, speak to all want about Main Street, just take drive down said Main Stret and see what businesses ARE very likely never to return. It ain’t deep pocketed Wall Street businesses paying a price. And how come Jeff has increased his wealth by more 80 billion during a time of MAIN STREET F’ING shutdown.
Main Street is crying, Wall Street is laughing right in our face.
How is that for DISCONNECT.
I had a conversation with a teenage bag boy at a grocery store a while ago. He took my groceries to the car, and the talk turned to tips (I remember when we tipped bag boys). The young man said that all businesses should raise the wage to $15/hour. I said “Really? Well, let’s see. Let’s take restaurants. If a waiter/waitress makes $15/hour, why would they care if you get good service or why would they care if they even waited on anyone? That $15/hour would equate to 3 tables tipping $5 in an hour. I used to be a waitress and the $15/hour wage would have cost me money because I made a heck of a lot more than $15/hour just in tips.” He actually had not thought of that. He said “wow, you’ve given me something to think about”. I then talked about the weather, and he was still thinking about what I said. As I left he said again, “You’ve really given me something to think about.”
The starfish principle – I made a difference to that one.
Note: Of course, this is without the mandatory tip imposed on the bill in some restaurants. In that case, customers would just stay home to eat.
The United States is already one of the most expensive labor markets in the world. Raising the minimum wage to $15 would not only increase the cost of labor for American businesses that employ minimum wage workers; it has a ripple effect since many union contracts and other pay schemes are pegged to “prevailing wages:” Double the minimum wage, and all the other wages go up, too, dramatically.
But that’s OK. China wants to make the US less competitive, and this is a deviously clever way of doing it. And all those people who lose their jobs because of it? Just collateral damage in China’s bid for global hegemony aided and abetted by the quislings in the CoC.
mostly it leads to illegal workers paying them under the table and a penny on the Dollars,
Rest of all Money will keep them self,
Bunch of corrupt organization i Believe,
How does the leadership of the CoC navigate the membership with this alignment? This represents a direct conflict,which if left in place will surely divide the organization into permanent opposition of its own self. Strange move. Looks like perhaps a last ditch effort to remain relevant in among the rest of the swamp.
I don’t understand how the CoC opposes Main St. when so many local businesses are actual members. I guess they make their real money another way.
Most union labor contracts have guaranteed differentials above the minimum wage so anytime the minimum wage is increased, all the union workers get automatic wage increases as well without any collective bargaining. So in other words, although only 2% of workers work for minimum wage, many more workers also get increases. It’s a shame none of these people understand or care about actual economic principles.
Were going to need ‘tax credits’ for fixed income Seniors who’s Social Security isn’t equal to the CoC-Union $15/hr, less they might suffer a downgrade to their standard of living, with regards to rising prices the corporations pass on to consumers to cover $15/hr living wage standard.
just logging in again