Attorney General Bill Barr Podcast Interview With Senator Ted Cruz – (Video)…

U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr sat down for an important discussion with Texas Senator Ted Cruz for the Verdict podcast.  AG Barr discusses the recent riots and the ongoing effort to prosecute those engaging in violence and destruction of property.

Additionally, AG Barr also discusses the Big Tech censorship issue in combination with ongoing anti-trust investigations that will reach his desk for decision this summer.

Another important note surrounds AG Barr putting the date for Peter Strzok’s notes as January 5, 2017, following FBI Director James Comey’s pull-aside meeting at the White House with President Obama, VP Biden, Susan Rice and Sally Yates.

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260 Responses to Attorney General Bill Barr Podcast Interview With Senator Ted Cruz – (Video)…

  1. terry says:

    Big statement by Barr.

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    • ann says:

      To hear Barr calmly state fact , without equivocating or excusing, is heartening.

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      • Yep, but that’s not his job. His job is administering justice, not talking about injustice.

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        • Sharpshorts says:

          but…but… “but that’s not his job”
          Barr caught in the act…only politicians and media can talk about injustice.

          and now for something completely different
          Barr could be talking in his spare time.

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          • Bill Durham says:

            Barrs job was to run out the clock to protect the swamp. He succeeded. No way anyone could charge, arrest, indict, and get to court in 130 days. People here don’t want to face reality.

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            • California Joe says:

              Bill, all Durham needs to do is start indictments. The rest follows within a week under the federal rules of criminal procedures. As for the trials that’s typically a year or more afterwards but who cares at this point. If Comey and McCabe are arrested along with some of the other familiar names we’re in very good shape for the election.

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              • Rather Not Say says:

                I am rather confident that a D administration AG would exercise ‘prosecutorial discretion’ to end the trials, even if indicted before the election/transition. The clock has been run out, and the pie of responsibility is split between Trump/Sessions/Barr. You can divvy up the pie between them, but that is who is responsible.

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                • trnathens says:

                  Geez, guys (specifically Rather Not Say, Bill Durham (of course), and trumplandslide),

                  Why the pessimism? You have no idea how to play the long game.

                  My favorite part of this week? Nadler ripping Barr in absentia for making “political decisions” with regard to Stone, Flynn, et al, and then Barr graciously accepting an invitation to testify in front of Nadler’s committee.

                  Guess what? He gets to explain WHY he made those decisions. He gets to UNLOAD ALL of the predicate, or lack-there-of, for the whole world to see. You honestly think he said what he said in this interview with Cruz, and he’s gonna sit on his hands in front of Nadler?

                  You guys have no understanding of strategy here. No understanding of letting Democrats define themselves in the most ghastly ways for all to see.

                  Be pessimistic. Be doubtful. I don’t care if you want to live your life that way.

                  But if you don’t vote for PDJT in November, then anything that happens after that is YOUR FAULT.

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                • Jim says:

                  From all indications AG Barr appears to be letting the clock run out.
                  He’s had enough time to act.
                  His actions (or lack thereof) appear consistent with his handling of crises dating as far back as his work under Bush 41 (ie, resolve scandals behind closed doors to the greatest extent possible + employ strategies to minimize disclosure that would result in a public spectacle). Most recent case in point – The disposition of the Jeffrey Epstein incident at Manhattan Detention Center.

                  While acknowledging that Trump has faced one unprecedented attack after another since the beginning of his presidency….. He’s had ample time to decide whether he intends to deliver on his promise to drain the swamp in a meaningful way. If it doesn’t happen the responsibility rests to a large part on him.

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            • 130 days?? Try August 3, or 90 days before the election.

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            • ms doodlebug says:

              Oh, baloney. Once an indictment is handed down, the arrest can happen immediately with the arraignment in court usually the following day. After that there’s either bail or jail. Either way, whoever is indicted and arrested is immediately out of the shadows and in the spotlight of the court of public opinion where voters live. Hopefully, the first ones indicted will be high up enough that we’ll have the political version of ‘Shock and Awe’ to wake up our sleeping citizens.

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          • Doppler says:

            If the indictments and guilty pleas aren’t knee-high by the 4th of July, then there won’t be a crop this year, and any four year statute of limitations is running out, e.g., on the tarmac meeting, Comey’s exoneration speech, Seth Rich non-investigation, etc., etc., etc., all the illegal activities of the intelligence community during the 2016 campaign. Barr earlier pegged Durham’s emergence from grand jury secrecy to “hopefully this Summer.”

            Strzok’s notes, apparently of the WH meeting that Susan Rice memorialized, show Obama and Biden participation in a plot to disable the new administration by framing Flynn and hiding resistance activities from the President. Where have those notes been sitting all these years, waiting for Jensen to find them? Who knew about them, yet kept them secret? And why?

            I can think of three scenarios:

            1) everyone who knew or who were in a position to know but did not look or inquire was complicit in Barr’s “greatest fraud” and coverup, and deserves hard jail time .

            2) some of the people who knew were using that knowledge as probable cause for warrants to surveil a larger group of people, inside and outside the government and the Beltway, who were and are engaged in a larger coup effort, and the time has come for a long list of criminal informations with guilty pleas, arrests with perp walks, and indictments, or, most probable:

            3) scenario 2 has been filtered by Barr and other fixers to protect the C_A, the FBI, and DOJ from broad exposure and reform, and we’ll get a handful at best of scape goats, Lee Harvey Oswalds and Jeff Epstein’s who die in custody, and maybe a couple of those people at the WH meeting who will fall on their swords (with or without a shove) to protect the others and the Deep State.

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            • Sharpshorts says:

              Perhaps…I personally don’t think crimes against the Constitution like treason or sedition has a ‘statute’ of limitations that apply. But what do I know?

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            • trnathens says:

              Statutes of Limitation apply when the government becomes aware that a crime has been committed.

              If I hide my criminal activity, and that activity has a statute of limitation of five years, but government doesn’t find out about it until 7 years later, I can still be prosecuted.

              Otherwise, I benefit from hiding my activity. That is contrary to public policy of enforcing laws.

              So, I CANNOT benefit from hiding, or obfuscating my actions, before, during, or after.

              If you don’t know what you’re talking about in terms of law, and legal procedure, then please stop typing and commenting in public.

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        • Spooky says:

          Exactly! All we get from Bill Barr is talk for the most part. Manafort is still in prison while Tony Podesta enjoys his immunity from prosecution. Sheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson are still enjoying their immunity while their demonic boss Hillary stills cackles daily. Papadopoulos is still a felon and Roger Stone has received in essence a death sentence for nothing. All of the perpetrators are walking free and enjoying their book deals and lavish media payouts. Barr has had plenty of time to take names and kick ass and all he does is refuse to prosecute anyone at all!

          The piece of human garbage named Chris Wray is still leading the Fibbies and sending and army of agents to investigate obvious hate hoaxes while doing absolutely nothing about Antifa and BLM terrorism. Even if people get indicted the swamp juries full of seditious Trump haters will never convict any of them.

          You can thank Co-President Jared Kushner for a lot of this but then that is all on Trump who seems to spend most of his time tweeting, watching Fox News and making incredibly incompetent personnel decisions. What will Pres. Trump do when he gets banned from all social media by the Tech Tyrants? What will the GOPe do when they get deplatformed, demonitized and completely marginalized. They will whine for awhile and then morph into the party of Mittens Romney/BLM to save their miserable, cowardly hides. Of course it won’t work because THE ONLY THING THAT CONSERVATIVES CONSERVE IS THE VICTORIES OF THEIR ENEMIES. Conservatism is dead but too stupid to realize it!

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        • ms doodlebug says:

          That’s an incredible statement. It is his job to administer justice but he should not speak of the injustice that has been done? How does that work? Do we, or does he, just pretend there is no injustice to speak of and therefore no need for justice to be administered?

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          • Is it though? Shouldn’t we judge people first and foremost on actions and results? And if the person found keeps on talking about what they will do, yet hasn’t actually done (zero indictments so far), can we not call them out on it?

            The #1 error I see in people is that they listen first and don’t look at all what actions and results a person produces or does not produce.

            This listen first approach has gotten us to where we are. By judging people on actions and results we can really determine who our friends are. Lindsey for sure isn’t, and at this point it sure looks like Barr is not our friend either. You would not know this by listening because he says many of the right things.

            I love President Trump because he focuses mostly on doing and getting results and does get results.

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            • ms doodlebug says:

              Absolutely, actions and results are important. We, however, have an innate desire from birth for immediate gratification. We want our bah-bah and we want it 𝘯𝘰𝘸, but as President Trump often says, it’s complicated. These people have gone to extremes to hide their involvement.

              I think of these people as poisonous spiders. Which strand of the web did they weave first? Which strand leads to the next? Where do all the players fit into the crime? ‘Oh what a tangled web’ they continue to weave.

              Judges and jurors 𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯. One connection not made, one little i not dotted or one little t not crossed can return a 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘨𝘶𝘪𝘭𝘵𝘺 verdict. It’s not enough to get indictments. We want convictions. To get convictions there must be undeniable facts against each and every one indicted. This is too big, too important, to leave to chance.

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              • I hear you and get your reasoning.

                Here is the problem I have: Nothing from Barr’s past shows that he is a man who will actually indict swamp members. The exact opposite is true (google Barr Ruby Ridge).

                Durham DOES have a track record (google Durham Boston FBI) so maybe there is hope from that side. By not demanding results we risk the definitive threat that absolutely nothing happens to the swamp. And Barr worked most of his life in the swamp. I don’t think you can get someone from the swamp to clean the swamp, you need to bring someone from the outside, e.g. Tom Fitton.

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                • ms doodlebug says:

                  I admire Tom Fitton’s work. He raises a lot of questions and gets out bits and pieces of information. That’s great, but it’s not enough to assume he could do a better job than AG Barr.

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      • sDee says:

        Well I admit I had to look up what a Honey Badger is…

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    • Conservative_302 says:

      BAM!

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    • jimrockfish says:

      That is a big statement and at the end he said he’s been criticized for “trying to get to the bottom of it and hold accountable the people who were involved”.

      That’s not just talking about it, that means actually doing something to administer justice. Unless he is straight up lying.

      Was also great that Cruz and the other guy just kept their mouths shut and let him talk. Excellent.

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    • MVW says:

      Speed in some cases, no speed in others, words, more words, lots of strong words, pounds of punctuation, Yawn….. The enemies of our Republic are rejoicing.

      I do think that Barr is a good guy based on Grenell’s clearly stated view. Yet, real. pending **permanent** damage is being done on all fronts while the “i’s” are dotted and “t’s” are crossed. And the question is can our Republic survive? I…Don’t….know….

      But the burden does not just rest on Barr, Chief Justice Roberts oversees the FISA court which has been clearly defrauded. The devastating fraud against the SECRET court, a court that is overseen by the TOP Justice, and NOTHING is done with weight, sends a chilling message to future FRAUD cases and perpetrators…. and FOREIGN ENEMIES, and agents.

      Enemies don’t need armies when we have bent courts, DOJ, FBI, Senators, House Speaker, Governors, Mayors, Media, Tech Giants, Universities, Professors, Teachers, top to bottom. Now, voter corruption by Mail In ballots, and votes by illegals.

      What fun, no shot fired. But we get the satisfaction of a good rant on a blog.

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    • Cheryl says:

      They’ve GOT to get Joe elected in order to get this stuff back under the rug. Interesting that Obama would NOT endorse Biden until very recently….now that, seemingly, Biden and Obama are both implicated.

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  2. CarolynH says:

    He is doing it by the book and crossing all the T’s and dotting the i’s. The Rona slowed everything down because you can’t have a GJ in quarantine.

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    • 🍺Gunny66 says:

      Well then, we just have to get our President re- elected.

      We must have patience with his “ Entire Team “.. knowing that this virus fiasco will end then the whole house of cards will come down.

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      • CarolynH says:

        I have patience, justice moves slowly when done right – wish the people going off on Trump because of Tucker would take a chill pill.

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        • starfcker says:

          Wake up, Carolyn. Barr looks more and more like a never Trumper. He’s only got to run out another 130 days and his job is done. He’s as bad as Chris Wray, antifa doesn’t really exist, it’s just kind of a slogan, with no funding, no command structure, just some crazy kids running around playing with matches. Same with big tech, his clock is set on a hundred thirty days. Like President Trump used to say in his campaign, typical politician, all talk, no action. He just happens to be greasiest lawyer the uni-party could sell to President Trump. Another Washington DC conman. Any of his “investigations” disappear instantly, if President Trump loses the election. How about some indictments, fat boy? Hey Tucker, if you’re reading this, how about shining a light on this cockroach?

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          • Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

            You have no rational basis for your statements.

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            • Barr let off Comey, McCabe and Wolfe. He has forsworn going after Obama or even Biden. He has cozied up to Rosenstein and Wray (??!!). He was “happy” with Roger Stone’s conviction and the way they raided him in the early morning hours. He merely recommended a lesser imprisonment period for Flynn, not stopped that obscene Sullivan show, for months (until he could use the name “Jensen” and his purported “new evidence” to make up for ignoring Sidney Powell’s definitive indictment of not only the FBI, the gang at the White House in early January 2017, but the presiding judge, who ranted grandly but falsely against Flynn in open court early in the proceedings, and has still not given up his persecution of Flynn (and by extension, the President, and all of us who voted for him).

              There are none so blind as those who will not see.

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              • Sherri Young says:

                Roger Stone was arrested a month before Barr became AG.

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              • Winston says:

                “There are none so blind as those who will not see.”

                Here’s another quote applicable to this persistent “justice takes time” and “justice is just around the corner” we’ve heard for years now:

                “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” – Mark Twain

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                • Ken Lawson says:

                  Winston, you’re right but not the way you think you are. Those statements could be taken for either side of this argument. The fact is that those of us who’ve dealt with federal prosecutions in our careers have seen how slowly things move. And people outside of it have no idea how true it is. They just doubt, doubt, doubt. That said, I’m not convinced yet that Barr is a good guy or bad, but we will know soon enough. Whether Barr has anyone indicted or not will not make or break this election because this election is no longer about Trump vs. Biden (or any other Democrat). Hopefully Trump sees it, too, that it’s not about him and the same stuff he’s been saying for 4 years. It’s now about America retaining its freedoms and form of government as our founders intended or America becoming a communist nation. It’s that simple. This election will decide that issue. If Trump loses it will not be Trump’s or even Barr’s fault. It will be the fault of the voters for not doing their job of being informed and holding politicians accountable and instead falling for the lies of the communist left. The communists have been working for over 100 years toward this time. They are on the verge of overthrowing our nation and have had a lot of success moving their plan forward all these generations. People who haven’t studied history and don’t see it will be the easiest to be fooled. This is about the survival of America.

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              • TPW says:

                Bingo….

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              • As a Man Thinkth says:

                Barr was not AG for the Wolf escape…

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          • Brewerbear says:

            You are very wrong

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          • LFOD603 says:

            Agree 100% … more bloviating from the DS lawyer … there will be zero perp walks and convictions. Durham and Wray Im sure are hard at work writing some sternly worded letters, and new training manuals.

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            • WRB says:

              bloviating: See LFOD603

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              • Bill Durham says:

                Trusty planners- Those who fail to look at evidence, facts, or reality and rely on what they will hope will happen based on the musings of a LARP.

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                • trnathens says:

                  Hey Bill!

                  I’d rather trust in a plan: man’s plan, God’s plan, ANY FRIGGIN plan AT THIS POINT, and HOPE, HOPE, HOPE that I’m right, in that a) there IS a plan, and b) it’s gonna work!

                  Cause to not have HOPE at this point, regardless of what your “eyes” tell you….

                  what’s the point, man? what’s the point. If not hope for America, then what? Give up?

                  If you say, no, I don’t want to give up, THEN STFU WITH YOUR PESSIMISM!

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                • Bill Durham says:

                  Trnathens,

                  Here is a plan. GTFO and spread the trusty plan hope porn elsewhere. Awan, Wolfe, podesta, Watkins, and Craig prove nothing is going to happen.

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          • Bill Durham says:

            Starman
            You nailed it. In 2 1/2 years they don’t even have a grand jury. What does that tell you? Mueller had Flynn nailed in a matter of months not years. 2 1/2 years and they haven’t conducted interviews with Comey McCabe Brennan clapper or any white house staff? This is beyond slow rolling. But the gitmo crowd will never admit that they were fooled. Why not. they still trust sessions and the plan.

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            • Brewerbear says:

              How do know what you opine? Answer: Nothing… go away

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              • TPW says:

                Barr more or less admitted no grand juries in his interview with MB….

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                • trnathens says:

                  There’s a Julian Assange Grand Jury…

                  https://www.newsweek.com/chelsea-manning-released-prison-refused-testify-before-grand-jury-julian-assange-case-1492062

                  There are others. You wouldn’t know it if there was. And Barr wouldn’t admit it if there was.

                  Do you guys not know anything about strategy and NOT GIVING your enemies ALL THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE, as you’re developing it?

                  Geez, Obama had 8 years to do all this stuff. How can you NOT SEE that it IS taking time to unravel, in a way that GETS RESULTS.

                  TPW, most of those caps were directed at Bll Durham on here. Not you. I used to love the comment section, but damn, the negativity, and lack of strategic understanding is quite disappointing.

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                • Bill Durham says:

                  Yep. Barr is running a charade as much as Lindsey Graham. Pretend to be outraged and do nothing. The Q and trusty planners continue to be clueless.
                  Just read a trnathens comment to see how oblivious to reality these folks are. Where they go one, they get lost.

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            • butch cassidy says:

              “Mueller had Flynn nailed in a matter of months”.Yeah and how did that work out for them? That’s the problem with doing things half ass or worst, underhanded No one has a clue how this is going to turn out but reading some of these posts it sure sounds like some of you got inside info no one else has. I’m just amazed at how you are so positive as to what is not going to happen.

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              • Bill Durham says:

                Mueller got guilty pleas tell innocent people. Barr can’t get guilty pleas from guilty people. See the problem Sherlock? I am positive because Barr has a track record. Awan, Wolfe, podesta, Watkins, Craig. It’s called facts not hope.

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                • butch cassidy says:

                  Again, how is the Flynn case working out for these clowns? You can’t see the problem there Sherlock. It’s quite possible that charges could be filed against some of these prosecutors. I don’t know, I guess we will see what what happens. All your posting is just your opinion, and I’m positive you do not know how this will turn out .

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                • Bill Durham says:

                  Butch

                  The Flynn case worked out great for the swamp. Kept mueller going, cemented the Russian hoax to half the population, is being used to portray Trump and Barr as corrupt meddlers. And forced Trump to hire McMaster Bolton mattis

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      • David M Kitting says:

        Gunny,
        The virus fiasco ‘scamdemic’ is being swallowed, promoted and 100% financed through the Federal Government. ALL states can continue to delay/pause/deny their economic recoveries as long as the coronaflu ‘state of emergency’ exists. The Federal Government/CDC/NIH are promoting/subsidizing the lies to the extent that ALL healthcare decisions are viewed through the lens of the coronaflu scam.
        Viruses DO NOT spike in summer. Government mandated shutdowns of normal hospital treatment/testing for months on end insured a flood of ‘new’ patients once the incarcerated general population was ‘granted’ permission to go to the doctor again. Only now, EVERYONE must be tested for AIDS/Herpes/Diabetes, I mean coronaflu, because that’s guaranteed $$ from the taxpayer. The virus fiasco will not end as long as the Government $$ spigots are wide open. Contact tracing/testing only serves the political purpose for near future flu season/Election ‘quarantine on demand’ disruptions. As the pay to hate democracy/mob rule crowd lose their media marketing appeal, the coronaflu panic MUST take it’s place. The economic destruction is centrally planned.

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        • phillip jeffreys says:

          That’s not what the data shows. Blue states are cratering economically, but Red states are showing signs of recovery. I saw an interesting stat the other day on United Van lines activity. It shows a massive outflux of trucking (i.e., people moving out) from Blue states but not the same from Red states except Ohio.

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          • David M Kitting says:

            phillip, as a FL native, my recalcitrant comment was also sent to Gov DeSantis. Both FL and TX have curtailed their unconscionable/unconstitutional ‘staged’ economic reopenings due to the continued deception of latest ‘SARS’ scare.

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        • Sharpshorts says:

          “…The economic destruction is centrally planned.”

          It certainly does seem whomever is Chief-Central-Planner
          has a lot of money behind him….I wonder how big of an employee base
          would it take to run that size of an operation…millions? billions?
          Who has billions of “on-board” members?

          Church Lady asks “Could it be CHINA?

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          • My conspiracy theory is that it’s the Democrats and the Chinese working together in concert. They both want to get rid of Trump and they both have the same goals of ruining our economy and turning us into communists. If they can’t make us communist we can get the virus and die or submit to the vaccine and die.
            The virus “cases” are quickly expanding so we can’t be allowed to have a fully functioning economy until Trump is gone.
            The Democrats may think they can control China but in the end they will be surprised, because of the billions of people that the Chinese have, especially when our numbers are diminished.
            The defund the police movement is designed to disarm and subdue the law enforcement arm of our society so that Organizing for America anarchists can be supplied with the guns and ammo Obama bought for the Social Security Administration and the IRS etc.
            I also think Obama is the head puppet master/community organizer in the United States. Soros and those people along with our government are the money men. The footsoldiers so far have been Black Lives Matter and antifa and stupid college students.
            They’re trying to blame it all on boogaloos, but that’s just to distract attention from themselves. I’m thinking the boogaloos came along in January to serve their purpose of being white supremacists and race baiters etc. so Christopher Wray could arrest them and act like he’s doing his job.
            The media talks of nothing but the virus, the violence, the destruction and how all are spreading like wildfire. Nobody could possibly go to the polls and vote. Everybody must mail in their ballots. Nobody can gather to pray or rally or have any fun.
            The election will be a nightmare and if Trump wins in some miracle the fight over that win will go on for at least a year.
            We are in a war for America and I’m not sure very many people understand and have the ability or the will to fight for her.

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            • Sharpshorts says:

              I think everybody (right, left or brain dead) and every country (east or west)
              knows that China is the “alligator in the room”.
              Some deny it…Some fight it…Some like the idea of CCP winning…Some think they can use China for their own purposes.

              They all know that China plans to eat them…they just hope they’ll be the ones to be eaten last.

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            • ms doodlebug says:

              “The Democrats may think they can control China…” Why in the world would they want to control China when China is such a great source of $$$$$$$ for them? How much was it that China handed over to Biden’s son, Hunter? How much of that mysteriously landed in Daddy Joe’s investment pocket?

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          • sturmudgeon says:

            Sharpshorts.. soros… soros… soros.. next question?

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            • Sharpshorts says:

              He’s definitely up there but IMO he’s just the WRDM (western regional disruption manger).
              Who does he get the minor 100’s of millions he distributes? As sundance says “there’s trillions at stake” …I think there’s quadrillions…

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          • David M Kitting says:

            Sharpshorts, no doubt they’re communists. Problem is, Governments at all levels are infected with this mental disease.

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        • TPW says:

          Ever heard of having a virus with no symptoms????????

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          • sturmudgeon says:

            Our bodies are receiving and fighting viruses continually… a virus is NOT a disease, which is how this particular virus is being (erroneously) treated. STUPID!

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          • David M Kitting says:

            TPW, good point. rarcangelo posted an in depth comment/link on the 6/26 covid article SD wrote.
            Knowing it’s a scam, as I have, is one thing. Learning that there’s absolute scientific proof that it’s a scam, was another.

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      • from the cheap seats: good swingin GUNNY.reality& justice will eventually prevail!!!

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        • Ken Lawson says:

          But contrary to what many may not want to accept, justice may not prevail in this lifetime. At some point America will fall. History has proven it time and again. The question is how much longer can America as it was founded continue on. As things are looking right now, that’s the real question in November, not whether some criminals have been indicted. This is much, much deeper than that.

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          • TPW says:

            You would think out of roughly 100 million men one would step up to lead the people to unite against this threat. Especially those that have taken an oath to protect against all enemies? Makes you wonder if Govt./CDC is doing something to destroy testosterone ….halfway serious….is it lack of info problem? Then whose responsibility is it.. besides the fake MSM.. to inform citizens? Who would be credible enough and armed with evidence? I know as an individual I must try to educate my Family. We have got to start somewhere. This site has made a huge contribution towards that end but we are just a small slice.

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      • As a Man Thinkth says:

        It is my hope that AG Barr is out in front of the MAIL IN BALLOT FRAUD IMO, election fraud will be the biggest crime in the history of the western civilization …

        The entire story line behind All of these scandals appear as if we are chasing behind a very well organized gang of thugs without the insight to anticipate thier next move and head them off at the pass…
        SD refers to some of these misdirections this distraction as chaff and countermeasures…

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    • Doing it by the book????????????

      So McCabe who lied under oath three times and the DOJ refuesed to indict is doing it by the book??????

      Which book, the book of the swamp?

      Wanting to extend FISA court without reform is doing it by the book?

      When Barr delivers results please support him. When he talks about doing stuff, please ignore him until he actually DOES something.

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      • GTOGUY says:

        I believe that the lies that McCabe told were inter-Departmental Policy lies and a jury in DC would never convict a Democrat of that. Recall, McCabe was authorized to “leak” information to the Press, so him lying about it will not make sense to the jury. I also think that Durham is looking at much more serious crimes that he and others committed that will bring serious charges and indictments and convictions. Just my .02

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        • Sundance does not quite agree with you:

          https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/14/two-tiered-justice-doj-informs-andrew-mccabe-he-will-not-be-prosecuted-for-lying-to-fbi-investigators-3-times-under-oath/

          He was even referred for prosecution. 100% clear evidence.

          I judge people by their actions/inactions results/lack of results. If Barr does come through, I will praise him to heavens. But there is nothing in his track record that makes me trust him.

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          • ms doodlebug says:

            Prosecuting for lying to FBI agents is like fishing for guppies when there are bigger fish in the lake.

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            • If it gets them 3 years to prison that would be an excellent start! Where is it written that you can’t charge them with more crimes that are later uncovered??? Al Capone was brought behind bars not for his dozens of murders, but for tax fraud.

              You have good reasons for your belief and I respect that. We will see what happens. I really hope AG Barr proves me wrong.

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              • ms doodlebug says:

                We both obviously want people held accountable. AG Barr wants to save ‘the institution’ and he’s smart enough to know charging a few people for lying to FBI agents isn’t going to save it.

                He has to deliver some big heads on a platter with prosecutions to assure us that the DOJ/FBI is worth saving. Especially after he has personally stated that a ‘cabal’ interfered in PDJT’s campaign and in his administration. I don’t see him having any other choice if he wants to save the institution. Obviously I could be wrong but if I am he has chosen his hill to die on.

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    • gunrunner03 says:

      BS, the Dems/Lawfare would have found a way to make it happen.

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    • j'accuse says:

      Bill Barr is such an erudite and scholarly man that reading the transcript was a treat, I just checked his bio and I had no idea he attended George Washington law school at night while working in Washington for the CIA as an analyst – and this was after he had earned 2 master’s degrees at Columbia, one in government and the other in Chinese studies. He probably wishes he had taken the scholarly route instead of practicing law.
      I’m not familiar with the NPR interviewer Steve Inskeep but even though I was reading a transcript, I could still sense that pejorative tone that has become standard for the left wing when discussing all matters pertaining to Trump and that Barr himself must be some unethical hack for sinking so low as to become Donald Trump’s AG. I really don’t understand that attitude and it’s no excuse for Inskeep that he was just being adversarial, which is appropriate, but had to add that extra layer of disrespect and scorn toward a very accomplished man. I guess its required or he gets banished from whatever leftist groupthink bubble he calls home, or from his job at NPR which we all know was in near the front of the Russia hoax media hit squad.

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      • icehole6 says:

        I agree 1000%. Barr was able to get his points across and also give the interviewer a good history lesson.

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      • Jim in TN says:

        That attitude has been standard for everything Republican for forever. The only time they don’t employ it is when the Republican is attacking and thwarting other Republicans, ala John McCain. But they will immediately switch back when that Republican is facing off against a Democrat.

        But yes, it is worse against Trump. Trump does not try to be one of them, or even pretend to try. And Trump wins.

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    • BitterC says:

      This NPR interview is well worth the read. The guy was a real jerk, but Barr handled him and I learned a few things

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  3. This was a great podcast, needed to go another few hours – could listen to these 3 talk on just about any issue.

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  4. Tiffthis says:

    So Barr states that Strozks notes were from Jan 5th. He also said the the US is a democratic republic- but I thought we were a constitutional republic? (I learned that in HS- class of 1999) 🤷🏼‍♀️

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    • pyrthroes says:

      The U.S. is an indirect democracy constituted as a Federal Republic. Absent repeal of Wilson’s extreme anti-federal Amendments XVI and XVII (national Income Tax, direct election of Senators), despotically over-centralizing and destructive of root principles, Franklin’s “American Experiment” will inexorably continue to degrade.

      In this regard Congressional and Judiciary term limits; placing Electoral College counts on a County vs. State basis; abolishing Congress’ ruinous blank-check prerogative via a proportional, anti-inflation/stable-currency Unit Allocation Budget (qv) would go far towards de-institutionalizing K Street/Wall Street interests –including especially McAdoo’s anti-Constitutional Federal Reserve– in favor of Main Street’s patriotic and productive good bourgeois.

      Gen X born 1970 will peak in 2028, Millennials born 1994 in 2052. On the record, and by current evidence, neither cohort is substantively worth a damn. Whether Gen Y born 2018, the requisite 72-year socio-cultural era after WW II, de-feminizes sufficiently to take action on its own behalf, rather than spout mere stupid words, time alone will tell.

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      • sDee says:

        Repeal of the 17th will get us halfway back to Liberty.

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      • Leaving says:

        It doesn’t matter about Gen X, there are enough of us to out influence baby boomers or Millennials.

        I tell my dad. a baby boomer (along with most of the corrupt pols), “You really screwed up our country.” He response with “Yep, good luck.”

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      • Chris says:

        “Gen X born 1970 will peak in 2028, Millennials born 1994 in 2052. On the record, and by current evidence, neither cohort is substantively worth a damn. ”

        GenX not worth a damn? That is rich coming from a boomer that posts on the internet. High Speed bandwidth was pushed due to gamers in the 90s-all GenX. The backrooms that built the IT infrastructure in this entire country and still run it today-majority GenX. I have a unique perspective. I was raised by a WW2 Marine. I have brothers and sisters that are boomers. My father warned me about the boomer generation; i.e. They are selfish and out for only themselves. Plan according. You may not have been individually been responsible but it was the boomers that allowed this country to come to this point. Genx has never had any political power. Great example was my first 401k. I refused to put any money into foreign funds. My siblings said I was stupid. Where were you investing? The conservative boomers did very little to stop this. You guys just wanted to pad your pockets. I thought conservatives took responsibility for what they do. When will boomers?

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      • Chris says:

        GenX gamers financed the high speed internet in the 90s and early 20s that now allows a great site like CTH to function. The majority of people that build and continue to build and manage IT infrastructure are GenX. I’d say that is worth something. During those same years boomers were making money in the markets by financing China. This Genx person (raised by a ww2 marine) has never put a dime into a foreign company’s stock. My boomer siblings not so much.

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  5. freepetta says:

    Excellent interview. I would have liked to know if the DOJ is going after the funders of these anarchists? Some are donating millions!!

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    • Terra Rayner says:

      I believe he did say they were….that they have evidence of it anyway! They will want the big fish for sure!

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      • CarolynH says:

        They need the big fish – think RICO. To stop this you cut the head off the snake and the rest will scatter to the winds. Tonight on War Room one of the guys said he went into the DC mob pulling down the statue last Friday night – not a single one even knew what the statue was but “he had to be racist so had to come down.” These are mostly paid to riot idiots – we need the leaders.

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      • freepetta says:

        That’s what we are waiting for the BIG FISH!

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  6. Minority of One says:

    Clock is running. Better get on with it. If Dementia Joe gets in, his handlers make it all go away.

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    • CarolynH says:

      Rona slowed the investigation down. Can’t blame Barr for that. If he was the boogie man some here make him out to be he would not have brought fresh eyes in to go over the Flynn case…

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      • McCabe lied under oath 3 times. DOJ REFUSED to indict him.

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      • Jim in TN says:

        You are forgetting that the Court ordered Barr to sequester everything that they used to abuse the court. That is what forced Barr to appoint these “reviewers”.

        Durham came earlier in Barr’s tenure. We found out about him a little bit after the Mueller report. But used the fraud, and hid it from everybody. The IG report told more of the truth, and the Court found out they were lied to and ordered action from Barr.

        There are 5 of these attorneys rooting around on the court’s behalf. We haven’t seen anything from the rest. But the ongoing court actions against Flynn required that Flynn’s attorneys, and the court, be notified. Thankfully, we finally found an attorney who wasn’t willing to continue to hide the lies and fraud that has been enabling this which hunt.

        Think about that. Everybody involved in this in Lynch’s DOJ, Comey’s FBI, Obama’s White House, Session’s/Rosenstein’s DOJ, Wray’s FBI, Mueller’s team and associated agents, and for over a Year in Barr’s DOJ, kept quiet and failed to do their duty to the court.

        This only happened because the IG told us of some of the lies and fraud, but waited until well after Mueller failed to destroy Trump.

        Such utter craven disregard for the law, for the courts, for innocent people by a veritable horde of lawmen and lawyers. Total politicization. Massive abuses. Repeated abuses. And nobody blew any whistles. Nobody had the honor to do the right thing. They all participated, did the wrong thing, or they averted their eyes and kept quiet about it.

        And frankly, a vast array of organizations in the DOJ have been supporting this crap. Recusals and declassifications, are just a small part of the outside groups that have knowingly aided and abetted these crimes and criminals.

        Indeed, Barr’s real excuse may be that he too is a victim of this vast conspiracy. But just like Sessions, Barr gets no credit for trying to clean his filthy house. Because he hasn’t. And he was forced to do this.

        Durham has been at it a lot longer. Been over a year since we learned about Durham. Barr gets more credit for that. Nothing yet. And time is running out. It all goes back under the rug should Trump lose.

        And the sooner someone goes to jail, the sooner everybody will accept that crimes were committed against Trump. Not likely to happen now before the election. And the chances are growing dimmer by the day. Indictments, perp walks, trials and convictions or guilty pleas, and sentencing, all take place before going to jail guilty of a crime. When is any of that going to start?

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    • Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

      The clock is running but we can extend the clock by 4 years if we vote smartly.

      Re-elect Trump and give him the House and Senate majorities. We have one job to do this year to save our country and ourselves.

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  7. Bone Fish says:

    Has anyone else reading this blog realized that all the recent DC and CCP puppet acts are a part of the same show?

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  8. Terra Rayner says:

    I really really like him…and the honey badger part was hilarious!!

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  9. Dutchman says:

    Sorry, but my opinion, and it IS an opinion, remains unchanged; Fred the Crow, still flies free.

    Firstly, while I know he has a following, I REMEMBER Cruz, at the 2016 Convention.
    Early in the debates, I said Cruz reminds me of a used car salesman, and Rubio is his younger brother, a “Time Share sales associate, and my opinion of both of them has only declined with the passage of time.

    IMHO, we are being HOSED; The Dems attacking Barr, and threatening, ONLY threatening mind you, to impeach Barr, and Republicons coming to his defence, is all to keep the con going, that Durham is actually doing something.

    He isn’t, other than A) scooping up evidence like misfuds cell phones, to put on a shelf next to Awan and,Weiners laptops,
    B) Give an excuse for no OTHER investigations, like for Graham,
    C) He’s preparing a “report” that will be a larger version of a “Declination memo”, detailing the crimes committed, while explaining his decision not to prosecute. For instance, without the ORIGINAL 302, no reasonable prosecutor would indict Page and Strzox for altering, cause they can’t PROVE, in a Court of Law, to a Jury, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the changes were material.
    Which IS true. However, why aren’t they tearing the FBI bldg down, looking fir the original 302?
    BECAUSE without it, they can’t make a case. And the same will be true in every instance of a potential crime that Durham investigates. Key pieces of evidence, absolutely necesary, will be unavailble.

    We are being HOSED and Bill Barr and Durham are CLEANERS, not Housecleaners.
    Fred still flies free, and words won’t bring fred to my dinner table,..only convictions of serious crimes, for major offences.

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    • CarolynH says:

      I see Eeyore showed up to pee all over the thread.

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      • Dutchman says:

        No eeyore, and my bona fides are well established, over TIME here in the Treehouse.
        If you wish to debate me, and honestly attempt to refute my arguments that I have made, over the last year, on WHY my opinion of Barr/Durham is that it is,a ‘cleaner’ operation, fine and lets get to it.

        On the other hand, if you just want to call people names, you are adding NOTHING to the debate, or the site.

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        • CarolynH says:

          I’ve been here just as long as you and I do not have the negative view of Barr you hold, he is doing things by the book – as he should. I have always found Cruz very intelligent, just didn’t and don’t think he is POTUS material – but I appreciate that unlike Mike Lee, Thune and others he is not working to undermine the President For that he has my respect. Trump has enough enemies, he doesn’t need us rehashing 4 years ago over again.

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          • Dutchman says:

            O.k., you seem to share my view of the Senate Republicon leadership, McConnell, Thune, Graham, Cornyn, etc.

            They have done everything they could to block, stall, derail PDJT’s MAGA agenda, they tried to prevent his nomination, they said and did absolutely NOTHING to defend him, during the whole muh Russia travesty, and in fact all sung along with Mitch, “Oh, Mueller is an HONORABLE man, his investigation MUST continue!”

            They were NOT just passive participants in the coup, they, by action and inaction, by words and silence, COUNTENANCED the coup.

            As we clearly saw with Ratcliffe and Grennell, the Senate Republicons (McConnell) have distorted the “Advice and CONSENT” of the Constitution, into “You nominate who WE tell you, when we say “THIS is who can be confirmed!”

            McConnell has used this from day one, to seed PDJT’s admin with traitors.

            So, the question is, given all that, WHY would McConnell confirm Barr, unless he KNEW that Barr was a cleaner?

            McConnell has sent a clear message, easily understandable by all swamp creatures, that he doesn’t want anyone (small group coupists) held accountable.
            Hence, no hearings by Graham, or SSIC, on the biggest scandal of our country, involving both Judiciary and Intelligence.

            And yet, McConnell allowed Barrs confirmation to go thru, and Matt Whitaker was no Grennell, forcing the issue, he was a seat warmer.

            THAT is my MAIN reason for believing Barr/Durham is a cleaner operation, before we even get into their respective resumes.

            I would LOVE to be proved wrong, and publically eat crow (Fred) here on this site. I would be ecstatic to see indictments, prosecutions and public hangings of ALL those smug barstuds who tried to coup our President.

            I just don’t believe we are going to get there, from Barr/Durham.
            And, McConnell is why.

            Convince me I’m wrong,….PLEASE!

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            • Ray Runge says:

              Dutchman, add Flynn to a continued active Grenell and Ratcliffe and residual Swamp denizens that participated in the coup will be exposed. Glaring light produced by Grenell’s efforts is the reason Flynn’s exoneration may occur.

              Obama Administration criminals and their practices can be removed from places of governance and a re elected POTUS Trump can finally pursue an agenda with non Swamp creatures.

              I still await a Senate recess for those non Mitch appointments.

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              • Dutchman says:

                To clarify, I am NOT pessimistic that Justice will be served,…I am just pessimistic that Barr/Durham will be the waiter serving it up.

                Like you, I await a post election shuffle. You know, a longstanding tradition at the WH;
                AFTER reelection, the POTUS has a Cabinet meeting. He opens by listing all the accomplishments during the first term, and thanking the cabinet for their work, and then he leaves.
                At which point his COS says “I’ll expect letters of resignation from each of you, on my desk by the end of the day.”
                The idea is, he gets rid of any deadwood, but he doesn’t “FIRE” them, they offer resignations, and he asks SOME to stay, …its an image and PR thing.

                Anyway, I am sure Meadows is up on all these traditions,…I don’t know if this,USUALLY applies to FBI Director, but hopefully it will THIS time.
                And, hopefully the Flynn case,will be totally resolved by then, so Flynn and Sidney can come into the admin.
                Also praying for a slew of Republicon Senators to decide to retire,…miracles DO happen, just LOOK who is in the Oval office!

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        • Brewerbear says:

          Dutch. I agree with most of the content in your voluminous posts, but I disagree with you on Bill Barr… my opinion. Pls don’t engage in post fight… makes the board look childish including you
          Man up or Cowboy up

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          • Dutchman says:

            Thank you for the respectful responce. While I would like to have someone who disagrees with my position refute my basic argument, I respect your choice not to.

            Have a great day!

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        • Linda K. says:

          Even a fine lawyer like AG Barr, used to dealing in negotiation with criminals and their criminal acts, must be appalled at the rampant abuses of power and the disrespect for the law committed by the “lawyers” and sycophants of the Obama Administration.
          Even those familiar and cynical with compromise must see the danger to our country and our civil laws done by the marxists. Barr has to act. He cannot preserve the Justice Department by cleaning this up or hiding it.
          Even if Barr does act to deploy justice on these criminals, there is no guarantee that it will fix everything or not be too late. Ironically, the prize of taking down America will not benefit the anarchist or the idealistic social justice crowd. The loss of liberty will leave everyone in a dank and dirty world. What are they all thinking?
          It really is in God’s Hands at this point. And I’m not sure what that outcome is going to be, but what God has promised for this world will eventually come to pass. That I do know.

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          • Dutchman says:

            Yes, the most activist will be the first put against the wall for a bullet in the brain, should Conmunist prevail; its the Conmunist way.

            And, I DO wonder if God gave us DJT, in order to give us one last chance at redemption, before the chastisement.

            That we will fail, and pay a serious price in our failure.

            Dark times, dark thoughts,…

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        • Bill Durham says:

          Dutch,

          You, me and a few other realists are correct. The trusty planners crowd has no facts. Just the dreaded accusations of being an a eyesore or a concern troll. They are ignorant sheep. But before they hurl attacks at us and try to get us banned, they should consider a fact. The dude that runs this site happens to agree with us. When has Sundance ever predicted indictments arrests or gitmo? Never! Sundance stopped buying into a fair justice system when he realized no one at the FBI was cooperating. When he saw Barr and Jessie lui give the Awan brothers and mccabe a pass. When he saw no indictments in 3.5 years. So if the trusty sheep want to attack you, me or anyone else they should consider the position of the guy running this site. And the moderators should consider why these trusty planners get to insult, attack, and curse us with no pushback. I get put in timeout for responding, but the instigators always seems to skate away. I am tired of the hope porn. Being honest doesn’t make anyone a troll or eyesore.

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          • dr D says:

            The reality is nobody knows the conclusion of this. No one here is Nostradamus. Some choose to be patient and optimistic that Barr and Durham will do the right thing, but the key word is – patient. Others assume they’re deep state and will do the wrong thing and justify it with “facts” like Barr worked for Bush Sr., as if not a single good person worked for Bush Sr.

            Newsflash: Barr also worked for Reagan.

            I personally don’t think Barr would make as many public statements as he has (quite a few), if he didn’t plan on actually pursuing justice. Of course I wish it would be quicker, but this is the biggest political scandal probably in US history and I’m sure the resistance is INTENSE and Covid hasn’t helped.

            Only God knows and time will tell. These people who claim they’re realists and just know Barr is a fraud, seem really to be more like pessimistic cynics.

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          • Dutchman says:

            Thank you for your support, Bill.
            I am still waiting for this troll to answer my fundamental argument, which he has made NO attempt to address.
            McConnell is an anti-maga, anti-trump power in d.c., that has done everthing in his,m considerable power to undermine PDJT and his agenda.

            As the Ratcliffe Grennell episode CLEARLY shows, there is NO ‘ADVICE and CONSENT’ for nominees. McConnell DICTATES to PDJT who he can have in his cabinet.

            And, McConnell has blocked ANY attempt to expose the couo, and hold those responsible to account.

            And, McConnell allowed Barr to be confirmed. Ergo, Barr is going to further McConnells goals, or McConnell never would have allowed him to be confirmed.

            Its possible that Grennells GREATEST contribution, greater than getting Ratcliffe confirmed, greater than the material he declassified, was finally shutting up those critics of PDJT, who commented here “WHY does PDJT keep appointing nevertrumper rinos like Tillerson, etc?”
            Because Mitchs staff telks the Presidents staff “HERE is who can get confirmed. Sidney or Rudy for A.G.? NO way. But Barr, HE can get confirmed!”

            By the way, we all saw Grennell carry over a BIG, FAT satchel of declassified documents to DOJ before he left. PDJT recently commented on it.
            WHERE are they?,….Oh, yeah he gave them to Barr,…never mind,…
            Muh “ongoing criminal investigation”, Lindseys favorite phrase,…
            By the way, you forgot Wolfe,..two months for leaking CP Fisa warrant, on Barrs watch.

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            • Bill Durham says:

              I hear you and totally agree. It is frustrating as hell to deal with people who can’t wake up and see what is going on. They want to have a cookie and be reassured with hope porn. It’s the same Q, trusty planners, trust sessions, trust Whitaker, trust Huber, trust Sullivan, trust 3d chess boneheads who have been wrong for 3 years. Patience it’s just around the corner. Trust Barr. Lol! Drink the Kool aid and hope for a game of 64d chess.

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              • Dutchman says:

                Well, I come at it from a SLIGHTLY different perspective.
                If you were to go back in the archives and look in the comments,….I WAS one of those boneheads, LOL.

                I STARTED out defending Sessions, arguing how it takes time, to dot I’s and cross T’s, etc.
                I even got fooled by the whole Huber thing,…for awhile.
                SOME try to make intellectual arguments, while others insulted me.
                Then, well before many, I realised Sessions and Huber were doing nothing, and so I “changed sides”, and again some tried to make logical arguments on why I should trust Sessions and the plan, while others insulted me.

                It IS frustrating, to argue with someone who disagrees with you, and sees things from an entirely different perspective.

                But, it is the only way I know off, of challenging the validity of my ideas, opinions and views.
                There’s only 3 of us in my head; Me, Myself and I, and we generally all agree.

                And, I KNOW it is very easy to fall into the trap of manipulation, including self-manipulation, that happens when emotions overwhelm critical thinking, or when what we WANT to be true, overwhelms perception, i.e. “Denial”.
                So, I look to others to challenge my perceptions, as a “check” on their validity.

                But yeah, its not easy, and hard to remember that those we can easily see are in denial, DON’T REALISE that they are in denial.

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                • Bill Durham says:

                  I trusted sessions and believed in a game or two of 3d chess. But when the Awan brothers and Debbie Schultz skated, I saw the light. Everything from that time forward is clear and convincing evidence that nothing will be done. Barr is a fixer. Nothing more. And Mitch mcconnell is a part of the coup and wants it all to go away. And I am beginning to think that Trump has already made a deal with Mitch and Barr on how far this goes. Did they make a deal involving Don jr, kushner, and impeachment??? We will see. Trump seems in no hurry to declass anything. That tells me that there is many angles we don’t know.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  I have seen various commenters speculating on some such deal.
                  I don’t ‘buy’ it myself. I THINK some of it comes from people who are aware, on some level, that DJT wrote a book on dealmaking, or considers himself a dealmaker.

                  If you read his book, one of his key tenants is don’t enter into negotiations, unless your prepared to walk away.

                  Beyond that, you don’t really make a deal with someone who’s overarching goal is your complete destruction.

                  There is simply no way that such a deal can be to your advantage, unless you are willing to capitulate, and being a willing participant in your own destruction.
                  So, I think such speculation of a ‘Deal’ with his avowed enemies is baseless speculation, myself.
                  Might as well try to make a deal with a Cobra, or hungry tiger or crocodile.
                  “Appeasers are people who feed the crocodile, hoping they will be eaten last!”
                  Churchill, who PDJT admires greatly, said that.

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      • mayflowerchild says:

        Dutchman is correct. Barr is running out the clock – Durham is Huber II. Prove us wrong.

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        • Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

          You have zero evidence to support your claim.

          So easy to be an armchair AG. So difficult to be the real AG. If you want to complain, get your law degree, work your way up through the ranks, become the AG, and then fix all of the problems. 🙂

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          • Jim in TN says:

            Actually, we have the rapidly running out clock.
            And we have years of the very same defenses of Sessions and Rosenstein and Mueller and Huber and, and, and.

            And 0 indictments. Not even from IG criminal referrals. Can’t they even indi t that idiot that falsified evidence?

            That is zero indictments. Not indictments of Zero. He is off limits. Just like Cankles. Off limits. And now Biden is off limits too.

            There is still some time left for real law enforcement to start. But that is evaporating as we watch. Right on schedule.

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        • pyromancer76 says:

          We have two strong opinions, neither of which could be true – or both could be true up to a point. Having lived the roller coaster (CTH-defined early on) from day one, I will follow Sundance as he investigates all sides and offers truths backed by data. Opinions alone don’t get us very far.

          I don’t see how we (President Trump and we his patriotic followers) have been so successful thus far. I didn’t believe that Candidate Trump could win the last election and I don’t know how President Trump will be able to win the next with massive fraud being put in place.

          However, I will not Eyeore. I will work for his success with everything I have. I will support those who are doing the same.

          President Trump has found amazing ways around each (massive) obstacle placed in his (and patiotic American citizens’) path.

          I am looking forward to his next success every day. I will manage each partial failure without losing faith and both imagine and look for the work around that has almost always been coming.

          And I mourn the destruction that enemies of America have been able to perpetrate every day. I hope for their arrest, incarceration, and (massive) funding ended every day. I look diligently for that evidence, too. MAGA KAG

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      • Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

        CarolynH, I’m loving your comments in this thread. 🙂

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    • HecklerDon says:

      Dutch I see you are at it again, my friend. Bill Barr is the single most important and impactful player in this whole equation other than PDJT. Bill Barr has changed the entire paradigm. Our present perspective would be quite different without Bill Barr making the truly heroic decision to come out of retirement to try and save this heap of burning garbage. Without Bill Barr, Mueller investigation would still be underway. Weissman would have indicted Don Jr. and probably Kushner as well. Flynn would NEVER be in the position that he is in. And with all due respect, please don’t give me any mess like “Mueller was winding down anyway.” You are way too smart to spew that garbage. You are a sophisticated poster. In this instance, though, you are being result-oriented and making arguments simply to justify your aggravation and reckless dispersions directed at General Barr because he’s not moving on YOUR timetable and doing things as YOU would do them. If you wanna justify that argument, then I’d like you to direct my attention to ANY investigation that Weissman has led where he concluded “welp, gigs up, I failed. No thar thar. You targets of my investigation, ya’ll are free to go..you win.” Nope. Ain’t never happened…because these guys would simply make it up if they didn’t have the goods. They were lawless and had a license to lie, as Ms. Powell characterized them, but they also were basically the best in the entire country at doing what it was that they did: Getting their man AT ALL COSTS. I just have a real problem with these reckless dispersions being thrown around about a true American patriot and hero. A tireless defender of justice. When the story has been written, we may look back and be unsatisfied. Problem is, the actual reality is so inconsistent (at least with respect to General Barr) with your hypothesis that what you are saying is untenable, at least based on what we know as of the present date.

      We don’t have many friends right now. I can probably only name you 4-5 human beings in the beltway that are deserving of honor and trust. And here we are, true to form, as is customary, destroying our own allies. Dems don’t have to work too hard at it because Republicans are experts at cutting their own noses off to spite their faces. At least the Dems normally find a way to stay aligned and exert maximum pressure to achieve their agendas.

      What you are saying basically is the Paul Ryan approach. “I’m going to assume Orange Man Bad is Bad. He not doing what I want him to do. Orange Man Bad Bad. I not cooperate. I serve up the USA on a silver platter to the evil leftist Dems and fake news media bc Orange Man Bad. Ten years ago he say grab dem girwls by deir crotch. Orange Man Bad. Orange Man Bad.”

      Bill Barr has done more for this country and our democracy in one year of his sterling career than you and me combined in our lives. Bill Barr is one of about 10 honest people left in our entire political system. And here we stand just taking droppin a gigantic doughan on his head to thank him for his heroism.

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      • Ray Runge says:

        As you are able to wax positive about Bill Barr, tell me about Chrisopher Wray still employed as FBI Director.

        A time limit is real

        What do you employ as “results” in your belief of Barr that can be recorded as changes that make a difference?

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        • HecklerDon says:

          First, for whatever reason, and I know he had his reasons and continues to have his reasons for not having fired him at this point, PDJT put Wray in the position that he’s in. The FBI director serves at the will and pleasure of the President of the United States, if I’m not mistaken, not the AG. Wray was put into the position that he maintains presently before Barr ever even came out of retirement…like a LONG time before…

          Regarding a time limit, there is no time limit that will foreclose prosecution of this ongoing criminal conspiracy in terms of possibly waiting until after November, if that ends up being the case.

          My results are these: We were up proverbial $ hit creek without a paddle with the Mueller investigation prior to Barr’s entrance to the scene. Best we had was Rudy out there wildly swinging in every direction. I love me some Rudy, but he’s becoming increasingly embarrassing at this point and that all was starting from the minute Trump hired him. Barr comes on the scene. BOOM. He meets with Mueller and Weissman literally at the very point in time when all the leaks coming out from the leftists were that Don Jr. was within hours of being indicted. At the meeting, Barr asked them to present what evidence they had accumulated to continue with more aggressive tactics in their investigation. Of course they had none, so Barr told Weissman to stand down. And just like that, Weissman for maybe the first time in his cruddy shameless career was neutered. THE VERY NEXT MORNING, he submitted his resignation from the investigation. After all, he’d been neutered, and he wasn’t hanging around under those circumstances, not for a second.

          Very soon thereafter, Mueller hangs it up, calls it quits.

          This garbage about how Mueller was winding down anyway is totally devoid of any evidence whatsoever. In fact, folks like Rush were saying the investigation might rage on in perpetuity all the way though this coming election cycle, which is why it was such a problem. The best evidence we have is the contemporaneous timing of Barr coming aboard and Weissman resigning.. the the plug being pulled on the whole dam thing.

          Also, never forget the masterful job Barr did at putting Rowdy Rod’s balls in a vice and putting the decision on obstruction essentially on Rod…”we all decided this, not me, all of us..just ask Rod, he’s standing behind me. He’s the guy with the greenish tinted face who looks like he’s about to puke..”

          Next, Trump threatened declassification, but he did not follow through (again, he’s playing chess not checkers, and this was his leverage to control people…he’s renown for CREATING leverage where there formerly was none..). But what happens, although it took some time, is that we finally start seeing information coming to light. The theories we all knew were true began to become supported by the evidence that was starting to trickle out. We saw Barr himself step in to “fix” the absurd sentencing memorandum in the Stone case. Lo and behold, we even start seeing the Flynn prosecution start to grind down and turn. Granted we owe the lionshare of credit for that to Ms. Powell’s heroic efforts, but the DOJ had been covering all this up for so long…3 years maybe…and who’s to say they simply wouldn’t have continued the cover up to this very day? I understand everyone becoming enamored with Grenfell and giving him all the credit, but think about it. If Barr declassifies that information, all the sudden he immediately becomes public enemy number 1 for the leftists. Grenfell was a man they could stick in there, get the job done, and then BOOM, he’s getting the eff outta dodge before they can shred him from stem to stern. Barr can’t run and hide like that. Plus, we cannot afford to have Barr looking like a partisan hack. To be sure, that ultimately always was gonna come, and here we stand today, but the longer they could put that off, the better. There are plenty of people who are still on the fence about Barr re: whether he’s totally controlled by PDJT. After the masterful neutering of the Mueller investigation, folks could easily have gone the other way had Barr been the man to jump right in to derailing all these prosecutions…

          And now, today, Barr is out talking about how this was the most serious violation of law and weaponizing of the DOJ basically that he’s ever seen. You don’t think that is having a major impact on the election? Well if not, just look at the vitriol being spewed by the leftists in Congress right now…

          I could go on, but I digress. If you can’t see, you can’t see it. I’ll be right in the end though. Mark it down. And yes Dutch, before you ask, I will be back here to eat crow if I’m wrong. Like that even matters…

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          • starfcker says:

            “Regarding a time limit, there is no time limit that will foreclose prosecution of this ongoing criminal conspiracy in terms of possibly waiting until after November, if that ends up being the case.” Uh, dude, you’re making that up. Barr said the other day in his interview with Maria Bartiromo that what happens to these investigations depends on who wins the election. And then he smiled. Times up. People like you that don’t demand results are the reason this country has come to such a crawl. We elected President Trump to a four-year term. You do realize that’s over in four months, don’t you? The run out the clock gang started with Paul Ryan convincing Trump, oh hell let’s not have a first hundred days, let’s have a first 200 days!!! 200 days later Congress produced nothing for the new President. You might as well cheer for Paul Ryan as cheer for Barr, ultimately they are the same guy.

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          • mayflowerchild says:

            I’d wager that Barr made a deal with Mueller -end the SC, no one will be prosecuted.

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            • Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

              You have zero evidence of that. Zero. And we have evidence that Mueller was upset that Barr shut him down and stole the thunder by releasing that early summary. It took the wind out of Mueller’s sails, and then the debacle culimated in the laughable “Mueller Time!”.

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            • WRB says:

              I’d wager that Barr made a deal with Mueller -end the SC, no one will be prosecuted.

              You would lose your bet, because somebody will be prosecuted, because when US Attorneys spend a year and millions of dollars investigating, they will get somebody. It is what they do.

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        • Amy2 says:

          Barr is a busy man. Regarding Wray, right now, it’s the devil he knows. Barr can keep an eye on him and make plans for his demise at later date. Right now, we have an election to win, and if Barr can legally get as much info to the American people while doing his investigation then I’m in.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Well, I note in your whole, long ‘responce’to my comment, that you don’t go anywhere near, not even in the same GALAXY, responding to my stated foundational reason for doubting Barr/Durham.
        No one has. No one has said “No, Dutchman, your WRONG about Mitch and Co., they are good conservatives helping PDJT to forward his MAGA agenda!”
        Because then they would have to point to examples of HOW they were helping PDJT, and there AREN’T any.
        After the Heritage expose, even these Judge,appointments McConnell has been pushing are suspect.
        But, you do not address this ‘argument’I have put forth, at all.

        Instead, you speculate on a hypothetical of what would have happened with Mueller, had “Barr not shut it down”.
        To me, your hypothetical is as absurd, as my argument that muelker came up empty, when PDJT made it clear he was not going to fall for the “Obstruction trap” by firing them, no matter how outrageous their behavior, he wasn’t going to fall for the “perjury trap”, and, since they had COUNTED on one or both, they had no end game.

        Again, respond to my argument regarding McConnell, rather than bringing up distractions.

        And yes, in expressing my OPINION, I can call Barrs action and inaction into question. His resume is not exactly confidence inspiring, either.

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        • HecklerDon says:

          I’m not arguing about McConnell because I didn’t say a word about McConnell. He’s a deep state rat. BUT he does have a very redeeming quality in that he has pushed through over TWO HUNDRED federal district court appointments, which will stand the test of time and go down as a historic accomplishment. Everything PDJT has accomplished can essentially be gutted after November if he loses reelection…except this, and Cocain Mitch was the man who pushed all that through. Aside from that, he’d stab PDJT in the throat first chance he got if public approval ratings fell into the low 20s.

          I didn’t say a word about McConnell. You wanna talk about McConnell, then talk about him. I’m talking about General Barr and the massive paradigm shift he’s caused since coming aboard. Period. And the fact that he needed to be victimized and assaulted like he’s currently being done like he needed another hole in his head….which, he knew full well this would occur and yet and still, the man came out of retirement to serve his country.

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          • Dutchman says:

            HD;
            I responded to a responce to my comment, from CarolyneH.
            I was having a DIALOUGUE with her, which you intruded into. MY main argument, TO HER, for why I have no confidence in Barr/Durham, is because Mitch approved his confirmation, which I won’t repeat, as you can scroll back and read it.

            But, since you brought it up,…sigh. Firstly, by putting SO MUCH emphasis on confirming Judges, it has given him an excuse to not confirm PDJT’s cabinet and subcabinet appointments.
            It was recently pointed out that an Ag Dept subcabinet appointment, essential for maintaining our food supply during shut down, had been waiting OVER TWO YEARS to get confirmed.

            Secondly, are these Judges Roberts and Kavanaugh Judges, or Alito Scalia type Judges?
            Oh, don’t worry, they were approved by the,Heritage foundation!
            Yeah, I am NOT reassured.
            Finally, Mitch has been in the Senate for 30-40 years, and been minority/majority leader for HOW many years?

            So, doesn’t he get a lions share of the blame, for ALL of these unfilled Judgeships, to begin with?

            Anyway, you basically intruded into a conversation, and the ONLY invite was asking ANYBODY to refute my argument, which despite several long responces, you have failed to even try to do, instead bringing up irrelevancies NOT related to my primary argument.
            Suggest you give it a rest, my friend as I am still waiting to hear from CarolynH.

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            • HecklerDon says:

              Dutch, as I said, you are a good guy on the right side, and a sophisticated poster. But this garbage where you digress to arguments about “who’s been here longer” and “who’s intruding in my private discussion” and “who’s gonna come back and eat crow if he’s wrong”….all that stuff is just plain lame, man.

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              • Dutchman says:

                Yeah, well your lame, STILL haven’t responded, IN THE,SLIGHTEST, to my argument, and are trying my patience.
                It is in fact YOU, who are mentally lame, as you continue to distract with irrelevancies.
                Bye

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                • usJim says:

                  re: “Yeah, well your lame”

                  No, if anything it’s “… well you are lame” or “… well you’re lame”.

                  Geez. I can’t take it any longer; You use ‘your’ in place of “you’re” multiple times so its not just a typo!

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                • Dutchman says:

                  I type on a little, stupid I-phone, and I turned off spell check, even tho its occasionally correct,..as in when it changes FBI to FIB.
                  In addition, I know I do have a problem with certain words. For instance “Their” and “There”; I KNOW the difference, and correct meaning and usage.

                  However, when I am focusing on WHAT I am trying to convey, I often type the incorrect word.

                  I will try to keep an eye on Your, You’re, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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            • pyromancer76 says:

              Does anyone remember that 0 simply put Czars in place to do his nefarious bidding. To H with any proper process. Do you imagine that our President might also be able to manage in amazing ways without “proper officials?” Is there any evidence of successes?

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        • HecklerDon says:

          Hey Dutch, exactly how many human beings have ever served as AG of the USA for two different presidents? 20? 30? Ahhh….no I don’t think the number is quite that high, my friend….sounds pretty legit to me as far careers go…

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          • Dutchman says:

            2, Barr is the SECOND to serve twice as AG. Another irrelevance.
            I feel like I am trying to have a conversation on the phone, and I have a “party line” that keeps interjecting.
            Would you please get off the line, I am trying to have a conversation with CarolynH.

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            • HecklerDon says:

              No sir. With all due respect, my answer is no.

              And now it’s irrelevant to the credibility of a man’s career that he’s one of two individuals ever trusted enough to serve two different president’s in the important role of US Attorney General. Wow. “He SWIIINGS and he misses…”

              I think your frustration is that I’m slicing and dicing some of this same garbage that you been spouting with your unwarranted dispersions directed at General Barr like I got a friggan ginsu knife in my hand or something…don’t take it so personally though…

              Anyhow, too late…so actually I am indeed headed for bed…you a good guy Dutch, don’t take it so personally…very intersting view points and lots of good stuff…but we can disagree and I can tell you how you are wrong every once in awhile, and you can do the same to me.

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              • Dutchman says:

                You did NOT “slice and Dice” in fact you never drew blood, because you never, once even tried to come close to addressing my fundamental argument, and your STILL not.
                You are a legend in your own mind, and too bad for Barr that he doesn’t have a better defender than you.
                Good nite.

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                • HecklerDon says:

                  If you say so, Dutch, if you say so, good buddy.

                  “But but but…err.. but but…but will you come back on here to this site and eat your crow after you are wrong? I demand to know!”

                  “But but but…I been on this site 8 years, and you ain’t…which logically means I’m right and you are WRONG Don..”

                  Key takeaway: you need to consider stopping with your attacks on General Barr. He’s one of the best friends we got left at this point. It’s embarrassing at this point to see anyone, including you, going after General Barr when he’s out there taking bullets for PDJT literally right this second..

                  And yes, I’m a legend in my own mind…just plain legend would suffice…I’m the king of you, Dutch. Admit it. I demand it.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  Your demands sound a lot like Antifa. You make all sorts of statements as if they were fact, without backing them up.

                  And, you continue to avoid addressing in any way, my main argument, because you CAN’T.

                  McConnel is a rabidly anti-Trunp, anti-maga impediment, who rigidly controls the confirmation process, dictating to PDJT WHO he can have, as the whole Ratcliffee/Grennell episode made clear.

                  McConnell allowed the confirmatiin of Barr as A.G.

                  Ergo, Barr, and by extension Durham, are NOT going to indict or prosecute ANYONE for the muh russia soft coup.

                  Refute THAT, or shut up. All other arguments, or sentiments “Barr is an HONORABLE man”

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                • Newhere says:

                  No one can answer your point on Mitch. It’s absolutely correct, and devastating. We can observe all sorts of hopeful and laudable things about Barr (he is quite likeable, and his ability to hit right on point is refreshing). But your point is irrefutable, and the only one that matters: Mitch allowed his confirmation. I, too, would welcome the explanation of how Mitch’s hand was somehow forced … but so far the only fair assumption is that his hand was NOT forced, and that he did not regard the Barr appointment as contrary to his own interests — hence we know the appointment is contrary to ours.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  THANK YOU, Newhere. Can’t refute, so don’t even try, instead irrellevant arguments are brought in to distract.

                  Served twice as AG, 30 years apart. So WHAT? By that standard, Rumsfeld was a great SecDef.
                  Only question is, is Barr/Durham a cleaner, or a housecleaner. Mountains of evidence to indicate the former, nothing but meaningless words to indicate the latter,…and in the end, McConnell allowed him to be confirmed. Which makes everything else irrelevant.
                  Thanks, again

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                • phillip jeffreys says:

                  Not really an evidence based argument.

                  1. Heritage Foundation pushing questionable judicial candidates (based on some standard).
                  2. McConnell is the doorman who controls the nom process.
                  3. McConnell has managed the process to promote Heritage advocated nominees.
                  4. Barr was allowed by McConnel through the door so Barr must be suspect as well.
                  6. Because Barr is suspect we must infer that all his actions are dilatory and intended, utlimately, to sustain the interests of Deep State criminals. It’s all one big legerdemain.

                  So, then, where is your evidence that, in fact, all these judicial nominations have been a ruse? What have they been ruling? How do you discriminate legitimate decisions from ideological ones…for these judges?

                  I too follow your thinking and reflect upon it. It is a comments/blog…..not a switchboard/patch panel.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  The commenton Judges is really just in passing.
                  LOOK at who McConnell has pushed PDJT to take, in his ADMINISTRATION.
                  And, go back and review PDJT’s record of staffing, in his business.
                  WHY would a CEO with a GREAT record of picking TOP people, suddenly be picking lousy choices for his admin?

                  Because HE’S not picking them, McConnell is dictating to him.
                  So, PDJT has few options, and McConnell blocks the recess appointment option.

                  Hecan leave the position open.
                  “Chaos in the admin…PDJT can’t get people to work for him!” etc.
                  Hecan go with “actings” most of whom have McConnell stamp of approval, and who are EXPECTED by everyone to just warm the seat and not make waves (Grennell talked about this) and, who want a career in the swamp after all this is over.

                  Or, he can take what McConnell gives him, and try to make it work.

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        • Doug Amos says:

          Millions of words, no handcuffs’ How many ways do we have to prove guilt? Conservatives get arrested in the middle of the night on assumptions.

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        • lolli says:

          Dutchman🇺🇸
          Not sure Barr supporters even know Barr’s resume.
          If you look at his past cover ups, even recently Epstein cover up, and know he has been cia since college, how does one reconcile that with a “honey badger Barr”. ?

          He came back because he was told to. They needed a professional cleaner, experienced in gaslighting the masses. He even brought back fellow sweeper Tim Shea. Shea helped with ruby ridge and then came back to assist in covering up Epstein debacle.

          Barr is protecting those who want to get rid of PT while pretending to be unbiased. If he can delay and fake us out long enough…
          PT has warned us of their plans, we should believe PT.

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          • phillip jeffreys says:

            Again, where is your concrete evidence?

            If nothing happens strategically prior to the election, I will agree with you. But not until then.

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            • I believe that the concrete evidence is the dog that didn’t bark in the night. Over 3 years and absolutely NO, ZERO people have been arrested, prosecuted, etc. There is enough wrong doing on the part of the other side that, had Barr or any of the other people wanted to, there could have been several arrests already. There have been none. zero. zip. nada. That is why many of us have zero faith in barr and the plan.
              And the election is in a few months and the liberal uniparty has once again gotten results via covid and the race card. Our heros have done nothing. zip. nada.

              Lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of talk, talk, talk, talk. No action.

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        • Brewerbear says:

          Dutch,
          You are quickly reaching the point of being “Ate up with Yourself”

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      • Sidney Powell — single-handed — changed the “entire paredigm”, as you put it. Not Barr.

        The “anti-Barrs” among these comments are the realists. The “pro-Barrs” should read “pyrthroes” comment, particularly the sentence with “de-feminizes” in it (just a hint).

        Thanks to Dutchman also, with whose comments I agree, more or less totally.

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    • JustScott says:

      This is one of the reasons I LOVE the treehouse. (And AdRem’s delicate touch.)

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      • HecklerDon says:

        Newhere and Dutch, help me out here: So it’s a devastating point made by Dutch (I wanna make sure I got this right, now) that because Mitch McConnell allowed General Barr to be confirmed, that this necessarily means that Barr will not allow any indictments to occur? Ok…so….this would mean, logically, that with respect to anyone who WOULD have allowed an indictment to go forward, McConnell necessarily would NOT have been allowed such an individual’s confirmation?

        So, then…and guys you’ll have to excuse me…I’m a little short on logic here, so help me, please…but this means that it was impossible for anyone, ANYONE, who would have allowed an indictment to go forward to be confirmed.

        Well then, we all have our answer. Since SOMEONE, ANYONE, was confirmed, than NO ONE will ever be indicted.

        And, then, this would mean that the ONLY hope for an indictment would have been to allow Whitaker to remain in his temporary post for long enough to see to it that an indictment occur?

        You guys are like master jedi yodas or something with that logic…you guys…dawgs ya’ll on FIYAH…..I just can’t keep up..

        Or maybe it was that General Barr previously served President Bush, a deep stater himself, and had a proven track record of having a steady hand and not jumping off the rails acting crazy, that Barr would yearn to restore order and on 50/50 calls, he would rather not perpetuate the new trend of politicized criminal indictments, and that the only way he would bring an indictment is if they got their hands on the THAR THAR and had it absolutely wrapped up.

        And I gotta tell ya, I prefer this route myself. I don’t wanna see the perpetuation of all this criminal indictment BS. It’s destroying our country. Moreover, bringing a marginal case (not marginal in terms of whether we all know the crimes occurred but marginal in terms of being a lock to prove in a court of law, which are two vastly different things, mind you) and then losing would be twice as bad as not bringing the indictment at all.

        I’m leaning toward this last option, me personally. But hey, I’m a mental midget compared to you two guys, ya’ll must be mensa or somethin…I can’t keep up..

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        • pillip jeffreys says:

          Exactly.

          Dutch et al may yet be proven correct. The poroblem is that their argument is built on unsubstaniated inferences: what thers might call evidence or hypothesis coherently (not anecdotally) supported by facts.

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        • WRB says:

          ya’ll must be mensa or somethin…

          No, they are not mensa.

          But they not only post their opinion, they then go “tooth and nail” day after day pushing that opinion… an opinion that weakens the morale of CTH readers. In other words, trollish in the extreme. What motivates this obsession?

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      • Dutchman says:

        Yrah, me too. HOW can I test the validity of my opinions and perceptions of reality?
        By posting them here, and hopefully getting valid challenges, following the classic ‘debating society’ rules, using logical arguments and avoiding irrelevancies, appeals to emotion, or “Jane, you ignorant slut” devolving to name calling.
        That at least is the aspiration…

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    • CM-TX says:

      Or if they can establish the original 302 more than likely existed, but has since been DESTROYED– it indicates there was “consciousness of guilt.”

      Further when clear “destruction of evidence” is on the table, a reasonable assumption can be made that the material itself was incriminating. In some situations a worst case scenario of the actual content of the destroyed material can also be drawn.

      Although it’s considered circumstantial, when combined with all the supporting physical evidence surrounding it– which we already know exists– the missing 302 is NOT the “be all, end all” they want to PRETEND it is.

      It would also point to the dreaded “INTENT” behind their orchestrated & premeditated CRIMINAL actions.

      Instead, it’s being used as another baseless EXCUSE in which to STALL & run out the clock.

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      • Dutchman says:

        A trial by Jury, and “reasonable doubt”. Defence attorney argues that the changes made were to correct gramatical and spelling errors, and NOT material.
        And, he doesn’t HAVE to “prove” it, for the jury to CONSIDER it.
        Hence, to make the case stick, the prosecutor really WOULD need the original 302.
        Even Pientkas testimony is open to challenge, just as any witness.
        Courts are NOT about the truth, they are about what can be SHOWN, with admissable evidence, to a jury, beyond a reasonable doubt, to be true.

        In other words, the relationship between criminal trials and the truth, is like the relationship between a hot dog, and a warm puppy.

        I know. I beat several major ‘raps’ by proving in court, something which in fact NEVER happened.

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    • markmurraybooks says:

      So far, I agree with Dutchman. Barr has had plenty of time to produce results and hasn’t. In the Flynn case, it wasn’t Barr that did anything. It was the opposite. Bar did nothing until forced to by upstream activity (see the FISA court material here on this site). Even then, did Barr do the right thing and try to convict any of those responsible for the huge injustices done to Flynn? Nope.

      I actually think it’s a lot worse overall. I think we’ve seen enough to know that this covid is a huge scam but it wasn’t done for just one reason. The Dems/MSM played up covid to:
      1. Hit Americans with fear tactics to disrupt the “Trump Train”. President Trump not only got through everything the Dems/MSM attacked him with, but his true poll numbers were increasing. So, the Dems/MSM tried to derail that by using the fear of Covid. They’d hoped President Trump would falter or mis-step in his administration during it.
      2. Stall the economy. The Dems/MSM know that the economy is in the top three for voting purposes. Tank the economy, tank President Trump’s chances for reelection.
      3. Stall the Barr/Durham investigation. Get the country in lockdown, stop court activities, stop investigations, etc. Put all that on hold until the election deadlines. Why do you think the blue states are pushing to keep locked down through at least August?
      4. Put minorities out of work and on unemployment. Dems/MSM want them back on gov’t handouts so that they’ll keep them indentured to the gov’t and voting Democrat in the upcoming election.
      5. Forestall any action in Congress for as long as possible. With covid lockdown, the House and Senate can use it as an excuse not to convene, work, get things done, etc. Delay anything President Trump wants done via Congress until the election.
      6. I think the Dems/MSM had hoped to get a good Presidential frontrunner using the covid scam to create a false narrative on how well the picked Dem did in handling the crisis. We’ve seen the VP candidates (MI gov anyone?) try their best to do this. But, unfortunately for them, the covid scam backfired on them. Big time. I still think Biden is a placeholder that was supposed to be replaced by now, but everything so far has gone badly for the Dems/MSM. So, stall, stall, stall. Biden still the placeholder.

      In all of that, IMO, Barr is just playing out the clock. If President Trump doesn’t get re-elected, I think Barr would breathe a sigh of relief. I think Barr breathed a sigh of relieve when the Dems/MSM fired up the covid scam as it gave him time and breathing room to do nothing. He’s only doing as much as he’s forced to do and reporting what he knows is impossible to hide. Like Dutchman, I’d love to be wrong but so far all of Barr’s actions have yet to support anything else.

      I have trust in President Trump because from day one of his nomination to run for President, he has proven himself over and over and over again … with his *actions*. He’s used his words to extreme tactical advantage against the Dems/MSM so that they regularly keep failing to get the better of him. People still keep telling me that they don’t like when President Trump tweets. They cringe. I tell them to start looking beyond what he says to how his words have been used to tactical advantage to reshape the conversation, the narrative, and to show how badly the Dems/MSM are handling things. His strategy using twitter has been excellent.

      Mark

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      However, why aren’t they tearing the FBI bldg down, looking fir the original 302?

      They don’t need to.
      302s are logged electronically in a system (SENTINAL) that automatically creates REVS each time it is accessed.
      (I sell a similar product for industrial applications)

      As with my product, destruction of a document is itself logged.

      In addition in the DOJ brief to DC Appellate Court (page 11-12)
      https://www.lawfareblog.com/justice-department-submits-brief-appeals-court-flynn-case

      Less than two hours later, petitioner met with Strzok and a second agent
      at the White House. Petitioner was “relaxed,” “unguarded,” and “talkative.”
      Doc. 198-14, at 4. He “clearly saw the FBI agents as allies.” Id. The agents did not record the interview, but took handwritten notes. Doc. 198-13, at 2-8. After returning to the FBI, the agents drafted an FD-302, the FBI’s Interview Report form, summarizing the interview, and they continued to revise it thereafter.

      Thereafter in the brief all references are made to the FINAL 302.

      Furthermore Comey testified he saw the 302 that day.

      They either have that original 302 or know what happened to it.

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    • Bill Durham says:

      Yep. And with 130 days to go there is no incentive for anyone to cooperate or snitch. A Biden win and everyone goes free. There is zero evidence that Durham has a grand jury. This is Kabuki theater to con Trump and us. Bill Barr is so swampy that he is allowing Dems to smear him while he protects them and does their bidding. Swampy McSwampface

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    • Noswamp says:

      Maybe Dutchman. I am beginning to feel the same way.

      They threw Manafort and Stone in jail in record time, yet the real crimes are taking years to prosecute?

      I smell a rat.

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    • willyeye says:

      Now that we pretty much lost FOX News a couple of years ago, we have no real outlet representing us on a massive national scale. Channels like OANN and Newsmax are not even included in the ratings race every week. The media is pretty much 100% anti-Trump. The lefties can get away with doing anything they want, while 100% of the “popular” media will confirm to the majority of the American public that arrested conservatives are guilty as hell.

      Barr has to bear in mind that any move he makes has to be perfect before he makes it. If not done just right, Barr will be accused of arresting people based on conspiracy theories and that he is simply doing Trump’s bidding. No matter how many coup participants Barr arrests, the majority of Americans will believe the DNC media. If Barr makes any mistakes, it will likely cost Trump his re-election.

      Is it possible that Barr is part of the cover up? Sure. But there is just as likely a possibility that Barr’s timeline is taking this much time because his is a tough, tough job. Like I said, if not done perfectly, it will all be a waste of time that will harm Trump and result in our loss of America as we know it.. The jury is still out. I personally am a very optimistic person. I HAVE to believe that Barr will do the right thing. Pessimistic tendencies cause people to believe that Barr is anti-Trump. There’s just far too much evidence from Barr that this is simply not the case. I get the McConnell theory you posit. But there is a far longer list of Barr actions that clearly show he is doing his “best” to fight for Trump. But the conundrum still remains: arresting a bunch of corrupt lefties does not assure that any of them will be prosecuted, nor does it guarantee that the American public will see the light. Barr must be extremely nuanced. I do not envy the job Barr has to accomplish in the next few months.

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      • HecklerDon says:

        Boom this guy gets it, great post.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Firstly to clarify, again; I am NOT pessimistic that Justice will be served against the coupists,…I am only pessimistic that such Justice and accountability will come thru the actions of A.G.Barr and the Durham report.

        Should our Nation survive the 2020 election, and PDJT ultimately serve a second term, I can foresee him either taking direct control of DOJ, OR getting a Sidney Powell/Rudy type A.G. who would stop all the two tiered injustice.

        I WELL understand the difficulties of conducting a successful prosecution.

        The system is DELIBERATELY and INTENTIONALLY designed to give the Defence advantages over the prosecution.

        I took advantage of those advantages, in numerous criminal trials where I was the defendant, in order to achieve aquittal.

        Never the less, Prosecutors don’t decline to prosecute, just because the system is stacked against them.

        And there is a point at which “dotting I’s and crossing T’s” is no longer an adequate explaination.

        I think we have passed it, you don’t. Fair enough.

        I see Barr SAYING the ‘right things’ however I see no actions he has taken that can’t be explained as actions of a cleaner; acknowledging what can no longer be denied, while doing nothing which would lead to accountability.

        We’ll see what happens in Nov.

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  10. awake_millennial says:

    This “ongoing effort” to prosecute those engaged in riots makes no sense to me. We have the ability to know the exact location where solomani was going to be at a certain time and with whom he would be traveling with, organize a drone strike and take him out. We have done this with countless terrorist leaders, and yet here we are struggling to find who the leaders are behind these riots on U.S. soil no less and arrest them? I don’t buy it. And these people are organizing through social media no less. A giant speakerphone in the digital world. And we can’t find who the leaders are, arrest and prosecute in 2 seconds flat? If this was caused by a right wing movement where mobs were being organized in advance and causing destruction, would the DOJ and FBI etc still be struggling to identify who the perpetrators are? This smells rotten to the core. Whats really going on here. Where is our intelligence on this. This is no where near as sophisticated as what we’ve had to deal with in the middle east and yet it still continues…..

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    • HecklerDon says:

      First off, let me say that I personally agree with your point. I think it was Savage who said just a day or two ago that we have a DEA that is sophisticated enough to take down Pablo friggan Escobar, but it’s like a who’s on first routine to stop the angry mobs.

      Now, having said that, you do understand that we have a presidential election in November, right? And therefore you understand that the leftists are at their absolute apex in terms of what they are willing to do at this point to destroy anyone who is not rolling with their agenda. And they are supported 100% down the line by the fake news media. And sad to say, but this does have an impact on public perception.

      What happens if a bunch of folks immediately start being arrested would play right into their hands at this point. Then the headlines across the nation (because the fake news media walks in lockstep across the board) would be that President Trump is a racist pig who will stop at nothing to destroy African Americans who are peacefully protesting. They’d say he’s un-American, that America is all about free speech and peaceful protest, and that Trump is putting people in jail for exercising their rights in gestapo fashion. Nevermind that it’s a friggan war zone out there at this point. The fake news media doesn’t care one bit about that. They’d plow right through that and would never report on even a smidgen of that.

      THIS IS CHESS NOT CHECKERS FOLKS…BEING PLAYED AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS…THIS IS BOBBY FISCHER v. KASPAROV STUFF GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH THE PRIZE TO THE WINNER BEING OUR ENTIRE FRIGGAN WAY OF LIFE…

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      • starfcker says:

        “What happens if a bunch of folks immediately start being arrested would play right into their hands at this point.” I’m probably going to get thrown off here for a while for saying this, but you’re an idiot. If a bunch of folks who are behind this insurrection were arrested immediately it would be justice served, and it would be the first signs of life out of a corrupt DOJ in President Trump’s term. The country is begging for it. Barr needs to do his damn job. Sell that nonsense somewhere else. Have you taken down your Jeff Sessions posters yet?

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        • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

          Why the hell doesn’t Trump fire him already?????
          OR Since Trump won’t……

          You can call Congressman Nadler’s office here to get HIM to do his job
          IMPEACH HIM already!!!
          https://nadler.house.gov/contact/

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        • I agree with you 100%. Trump can’t stay on defense here because the libs are killing him. He doesn’t have to send in the troops to stop the rioters although he could message better that it is the liberal leadership that is allowing the riots and the citizens need to vote them out.
          He can however do exactly what you said. Use the us marshalls, local law enforcement or whoever he can trust to arrest the people committing acts of violence and destruction and also arrest the leaders. Ignore the libs/press/etc and go on the attack. The press is going to hate everything he does and tear him down all the time, so he needs to go on the offense and keep them on their heels.

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        • HecklerDon says:

          Yeah ummm…you definitely are playing checkers there bud…carry on, carry on…

          “you’re an idiot” … man, you really have a way with words too, great stuff…

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        • anniesezso says:

          Thank you, Starfcker. That needed to be said.

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        • HecklerDon says:

          Starfcker first off, nice handle. It’s nice the way you incorporated the most obscene 4-letter word in the English language into your handle so we all can clearly identify your mindset. Thank you, sir.

          And for real, does PDJT know about you yet? DJT absolutely MUST find a way to bring you on as a senior level strategist. You are like some kinda ninja spy James Bond son-of-a-gun or something. It’s amazing. My mind is blown. It had to take you, what, at least 4 or 5 hours to continually run your concepts through a sifter until they became a fine, rich pot of gold. In fact, we just need to get word to DJT to get on here and read your post. If PDJ would simply peruse your ultra deep thinking made evident through your post there, shoot, he could probably get this ship righted in less than a week. Cleaned up. Boom. Done here. Bye bye problems. Hello to another golden era for the USA.

          I gotta find a way to get word to PDJT about you…you could very well save the republic…

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        • Ad rem says:

          No ….not thrown off, just put in moderation.

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      • warbucks57 says:

        I think it’s quite possible that Mitch allowed the Barr appointment for what he thought Barr would be. However, I tend to take Barr at his word that he returned to this cesspool for a higher cause. Now wouldn’t that be something new and refreshing?

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    • AceODale says:

      A couple of caveats.

      Intel on operatives can take months to track, compile, and confirm.

      Correlation doesn’t necessarily equal causation. One needs proof of intent, leadership, and connection.

      Finally, they need to ensure they get the correct players; the ones that will be able to keep the investigation moving to snare those higher up the chain of command. And you don’t want to tip your hand too soon, lest the big fish get spooked and hide.

      Terrorist organizations tend to decentralize leadership and obfuscate connections. That enables the larger org to continue to operate even if a mid-level, localized leader is captured or compromised.

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    • BitterC says:

      1/2 the people in the rightwing extremist groups are FBI/informants. The Obama admin had no desire to infiltrate the very groups he supports and trains members for. Doubt Comey or Wray had any interest either, til Barr arrived. He is essentially starting from scratch

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    • Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

      Consider this: There are ongoing investigations. Barr is the AG. He’s not going to reveal all of the details.

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  11. arsumbris says:

    It’s funny to watch people still stuck talking about “the illiterate hypocrisy of the protesters” for tearing down Lincoln, Grant, Roosevelt, Cervantes statues — when on every single statue is spray-painted “KILL WHITEY”.

    This is a color revolution, they want to kill all white people. They say it over and over, in every live-stream from the riots. The news tries to censor this, but it’s not hard to find a riot livestream like Unicorn Riot.

    These rioters are not a bunch of anti-racists angry at the Southern Confederacy for slavery. It’s not about justice for George Floyd, it’s not about shooting unarmed blacks. That isn’t a problem, and they know it; it’s just an excuse.

    BLM’s terrorism is about exterminating white people from North America and Europe. Conservatives that turn away from this, that stick their heads in the sand, are helping the cancer grow by covering it up in something minor: “ignorance and hypocrisy”. These people aren’t ignorant, they’re evil.

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    • I don’t know about the “kill whitey” on every statue, but you’re quite right, and nothing makes that clearer, in my understanding, than the fact that they define “racism” as “White racism against Blacks”; that’s the hard truth, every time they use the simple word “racism” — always only to indict Whites, never to recognize their own motivation, their own unquestionable dogma…their own racism.

      This goes back to the founding of the Black Muslims in 1930, and their rise to political power and subornation of Martin Luther King’s Christian “civil rights” movement in the 1960s, as I have tried to explain many times over the last 10+ years.

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      • arsumbris says:

        I don’t get how people are missing the anti-white stuff, except that Fox seems to be censoring it as much as CNN does. All you have to do is look for it. This is the statue of Francis Scott Key that went down this week:

        https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/056/542/789/original/23bccf57605c8698.png?1592668125

        They’ve been telling you BLM is about “getting rid of white people” and “black divestment from the US” since 2013. By divestment they mean “black nationalism”, ie, they want to set up their own “black racial state”.

        The guy who killed all those cops in Dallas in 2015 as revenge for Mike Brown, the two teens murdered as “revenge” in Detroit, the cops killed in Louisiana, NY, the list goes on. The elderly couple sniped while visiting their veteran son’s grave as “revenge” for Ahmad Arbery a few weeks ago. I can post these videos all day. How don’t people see this?

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    • pyromancer76 says:

      “They” use “kill white people” so continue to pretend this is about “race,” whatever that means – it has had some meaning in American history but “racism” was systematically ended by the 1990s. (Great American history movements for freedom and political and economic inclusion beginning in the 1950s-1960s).

      Today it simply means install chinese and/or islamists (and any “white” totalitarians) as rulers over America. 0’s handlers were all about this outcome – destroy the Constitution al Republic of the United States of America. Every single American who voted for him should hang their heads in shame. Blinded is no excuse. You now see in living color, American blood, and artifacts of our culture what he (his handlers of all their totalitarian cultures) were about.

      Racism has nothing to do with it.

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      • arsumbris says:

        I’m not entirely sure what you mean about race. These people are saying that white people of European descent need to be killed off by everything other group. Whether you think that race exists or not, or you’d prefer to call groups “ethnicities” (it sort of sounds like that’s what you were saying) — regardless, these people are saying “if you are white, you need to die, and we will be the ones that do it”.

        I don’t think an argument about technicalities, or what is a proper word for race really matter in the face of that kind of sentiment from these racist bastards. They want to genocide people based on race. They’re literally targeting statues, people, buildings based on race. They’re exploiting anti-white feelings among blacks every time a new “martyr” dies from an interaction with police.

        I really don’t know what to say, except these people are telling you they’re here to kill “white people”. What else is there to say, that’s as plain as day.

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    • hocuspocus13 says:

      BLM founder recent tweet

      Allah help me not to kill men and white people

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  12. arsumbris says:

    These BLM rioters post their true nature on youtube, but youtube takes down the truth because they think it hurts the “peaceful” image they want for the protests:

    https://forumfiles.com/x9U0zfCao4/Time_to_kill_white_people_1920p_20fps_VP9_LQ-128kbit_AAC_mp4

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  13. wlbeattie says:

    Barr: 28:05

    Barr: “Saw the department (DOJ) as a political weapon in our system…”

    The above is the first time Barr has gained my personal approval!

    His words struck a chord with me!
    IMO he obviously believes in the institution – now the more the #DeepState “guns for him” – I feel – the more he’ll fight back!

    It looks to me that he considers the #DeepState as a threat to an institution that he holds dear to his heart – and he’ll even fight THEM to preserve it!

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    • BitterC says:

      That interview told me what I suspected(hoped). Barr saw what was going on as clearly as we have for the last 3+ yrs. He came back to save the Republic because what Obama did was crack the foundations

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    • mayflowerchild says:

      He talks a good talk. These “deep state” people are HIS FRIENDS !

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      • Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

        You can repeat your baseless anti-Barr statements over and over again throughout this thread. But they are still baseless.

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    • Winston says:

      “Barr: ‘Saw the department (DOJ) as a political weapon in our system…’
      The above is the first time Barr has gained my personal approval!”

      Why? Because he states what has been clearly obvious for YEARS to anyone paying attention? I won’t buy the “honey badger” moniker until ANYONE at high levels in the Spygate/Flynngate travesty is even so much as PROSECUTED.

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  14. Jenevive says:

    I know people doubt Barr.. I get things are moving slowly but for those who
    think he will do nothing..I wonder , Barr was not part of the original Coup
    so why would he come out of his comfortable, cushy retirement to now
    put up with the abuse he is from the deepstate/Dems, why would he publicly
    come out more than once stating that YES POTUS was spied on
    then cover it all up ..First he would look foolish after repeatedly sayand noing
    yes POTUS WAS spied on to know say oh well they didn;t mean
    any harm? An now become part of the coup..He may not like POTUS
    personally as they are very different personality wise, but he has gone on
    record to say what happened was wrong, bad, etc.

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  15. mark says:

    On that original Flynn 302, I could have swore that I read that Sundance thought there wasn’t 1 because it was a Pen Register from obama that started the Flynn investigation?

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  16. dwpender says:

    Strozk’s notes may concern the January 5, 2017 meeting, but when were they written? January 20, 2017?

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  17. Conservative_302 says:

    What a great interview. Is nice to see the human side of Cruz and Barr. I believe in Barr. He will do God’s will whether we agree with it or not. I am OK with this.

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  18. Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

    I wonder how many of the Barr haters were Sessions fans back in 2017.

    Sessions caused the Mueller witch hunt. Sessions caused the investigation of the original coup-plotters to be delayed by, what, 2 years? You wanna hate? There’s your target.

    Alabamans, you have that GOP runoff coming up. Trump has endorsed Tuberville. Trump does not want Sessions to win that Senate seat. SUPPORT YOUR PRESIDENT.

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  19. MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

    The only person I trust is The Donald. Mitch and his cabal do little to help Donald and it shows but we already knew that.

    What we all know is if DJT doesn’t win in November then it is over for this country. Saddle Up.

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    • Genie says:

      It occurs to me that The Turtle is like a mash-up of Tom Daschle and Harry Reid. The progeny of the incestutional Uniparty.

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  20. lambgraham says:

    The Honey Badgers are Sydney Powell and Richard Grenell. Barr your a Honey Bee because:
    1- Where’s the original 302 in the Flynn interview?
    2- You stated in Maria’s interview there are currently no grand juries called.
    3- You refuse to implicate Obama and Biden in the coup.
    4- No indictments on individuals who signed FISA.
    5- Why not interview Julian Assange? I’ll bet Seth Rich the one who downloaded Dem emails.
    6- Why not have under cover agents in BLM and Antifa? Thats how we broke KKK, Communist Party, and Black Panthers.
    7- When you don’t put pressure on subjects in an investigation and there is a time line (election) it could only indicate one thing ,your running out the clock.

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  21. StanH says:

    We’ll see. Either way, whether Barr/Durham start to drop indictments or not, the most important thing is the re-election of our Great President Trump. All that we now know about how the swamp operates would have never seen the light of day. If Hillary had of won, these criminal swamp rats would be heroes of the Deep State. Not for the great work done for the American people but for preserving the graft and generational theft funneling the nations wealth to a handful of political fiefdoms and their oligarch masters.

    I believe guessing what Barr will or will not do, distracts from what is important. This was never going to be solved by one man in four years. We must get President Trump reelected and give him more senators and congressman and re-group for 2022-24-26-28 and on and on. We must not lose focus because the choice is crystal clear, the USA or Venezuela/CHOP. FOCUS!

    Will Barr/Durham start indictments 50/50 chance. The rest is reading tea leaves, nobody knows for sure. “BUT!” If we get our Great President Trump re-elected there is a 100% chance there will be significant Indictments, the swamp will drain a little more, the wall will be finished, more judges, the economy will reach the stratosphere, BLM/Antifa and Soros can be dealt with, and on and on…

    .

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  22. Bogeyfree says:

    I’m not Attorney but ask why does it seem like Barr and Durham have to lasso the entire group under one big indictment?

    What I mean is…..

    1) isn’t it a crime to lie to a FISA Court?

    2) isn’t it a crime to hide exculpatory evidence?

    3) isn’t it a crime to leak investigation material to the media in order to create a false narrative?

    4) isn’t it a crime as we learned via the Adm. Rodgers audit that 85% of the NSA searches were illegal?

    5) isn’t it a crime to allow contractors unfettered access to the NSA database for non stop search queries?

    6) isn’t it a crime to destroy government property such as phones and laptops?

    7) isn’t it a crime to setup a private server to conduct government business over including conversations with the ex President!

    8) isn’t it a crime to destroy federal evidence such as possibly the Wiener Laptop contents or the 47 hard drives turned in by Dennis Montgomery?

    9) isn’t it a crime to falsely claim and put in an official SC report that the DNC Server was hacked by Russians when you know it wasn’t?

    My point in listing just some of the crimes, is why hasn’t Durham or Barr arrested some of these perpetrators for any of the above singular crimes yet?

    Why does it seem like it has to be one big, all encompassing indictment net covering everything?

    Why can’t they arrest some NOW for singular crimes and add conspiracy or sedition or RICO or deprivation of right under color charges as they go?

    Why even let some of these people roam free when by arresting some now with even singular criminal charges, it at least shows the world that crimes were committed making millions more aware of a possible bigger conspiracy with possibly a whole lot more charges coming.

    Why does it appear to be an all or nothing operation and now that we have the great CV stall in place, Barr and Durham run the risk that if PT loses in Nov everything is lost as if there were ZERO crimes ever committed, not to mention the total destruction of this Republic.

    IMO it is a HUGE gamble on the part of Barr and Durham. Basically ALL or NOTHING IMO including the Republic.

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    • Brewerbear says:

      If you admit you are not an attorney, why opine on legal issues?

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    • lolli says:

      Bogeyfree 🇺🇸
      👍

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    • sDee says:

      I am not sure if this is an “all or nothing” approach.

      President Trump is in uncharted territory. What, I wonder, is the model, to fight and destroy a nation’s enemy when that enemy in embedded within and it controls the legislative, administrative, judicial, and law enforcement institutions, along with all of the press?

      Or, does this approach reflect the ugly reality that although the likes of Obama, Burr, Sullivan, Jarrret, McConnel, Rice, Comey, Mueller, Soros etc while criminals, are merely the minions, henchmen, carpetbaggers, grifters, and opportunists of our mortal enemy.

      Remember what he told us…. We have to replace this system with a new government controlled by us, the American People.

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  23. Leaving says:

    What we have is Schrödinger’s Justice.

    From our point of view the box is closed and we can’t see what is inside it. From what we can see, Justice can either looked delayed or in progress. We’ve been at this point for years. The evidence is ambiguous. We simply don’t have enough of it to determine either way.

    The cat is both alive and dead right now.

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    • evergreen says:

      As time marches on, the likelihood that the cat expires only increases. In the long run, it’s gone. Time is a factor that cannot be dismissed.

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  24. Judge people by their actions and results or lack thereof.

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  25. Onekama Man says:

    Just can’t emphasize enough how compromised Mitch McConnell is and how that effects any kind of push back against the US-Coms. Mitch is owned by the Chi-Coms.

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    • sDee says:

      I see it a bit differently…. Mitch is owned by the same people who own the Chicoms. We and our President are in their way.

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  26. TIM SULLIVAN says:

    Is AG Barr going to indict ANYONE or is he going to just eat sandwiches and go on tv (Lindsey Graham)?

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  27. Perot Conservative says:

    Elaborate Hope Porn? Or preparing the public?

    Recall what Huber & Sessions did? Nothing.

    No work, no pressers, no interviews, no damning statements.

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    • The best part is now the idiotic, moronic unbelievably stupid republicans are seriously considering electing sessions to the senate again after he stabbed the president in the back and the president has come out and said that sessions was a traitor. If our side can’t even get beyond a simply act like not allowing a know traitor to possibly win a senate race then we may not have a snowballs chance to right this ship.

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  28. TwoLaine says:

    14+ minutes in and I am still waiting for the promised BB interview to begin.

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  29. lfhbrave says:

    Strzok’s Notes were about Jan. 5 meeting? That is interesting. It means the Susan Rice email was not a truthful record of the meeting. As to those involved, the Jan. 5 meeting could meet one of the elements for a conspiracy – an overt act in furtherance of the crime.

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  30. DeWalt says:

    While this is being endlessly discussed, this conversation has been going for years now, there is a void where law and ordered society used to exist. As Governors and Mayors knee cap and defund Police that void is going to be filled.
    Of late I am hearing murmurings.It began weeks ago with the President bringing up the Silent majority and now from places unexpected the concept of Militia. This is the area I call Middle America. And this place is filled with a renewed interest in Constitutional questions. This place is filled with hundreds of thousands of folks who took an Oath that they take seriously. These people don’t make memes and rattle on Twitter.
    I am an outdoors man and have many friends from all walks that enjoy my hobby. My hobby is a great therapy for those who spent a third of their adult lives in combat, fighting insurgencies. Of late these types are beginning to take a dark view of times. These people harbor no illusions of the present situation.
    That Void? It will be filled.

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    • 335blues says:

      Are we to endlessly watch as marxist agitators destroy the greatest country
      in the history of mankind, and sit idly by?
      I am NOT suggesting anyone break the law.
      However, at what point do citizens decide enough damage has occurred,
      and it is not being stopped by the people we thought would, and should stop it?
      What rights do citizens have, within the law, to stop the damage?

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    • We may be at the point the roman republic was at the time of Augustus Caesar. The country was terribly corrupt and could no longer be ruled.

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  31. MACAULAY says:

    I have read every post in this thread. Lot of Skeptics on the Barr-Durham Investigation—and who can blame them after the Sessions-Huber Fraud.

    But, I will GUARANTY that there will be at least one Indictment (or a Guilty Plea in lieu) from Kevin Clinesmith, who altered a document to make it say the opposite of what it actually said—in order to get a Fisa Renewal.

    And, as he is a Soy Boy-Sissy he will likely be (probably already is) singing like a canary trying to lessen his time as Big Bubba’s wife in the Big House. And I believe it is a good sign that he has not been indicted yet. Could mean he will be indicted with others in a conspiracy charge. Even if not, it’s still good news that they are waiting. Since he is a sure thing, every reason for waiting seems to me to be positive, not negative.

    I don’t know criminal law, but Stephen Somma is also a clear wrong-doer. He didn’t affirmatively alter documents, but he kept information secret that clearly should have been given to the FISA Court as part of the Page FISA Renewals. This should be a crime, and if he will sing too, and say he did it because he was told to by his superiors, like Strzok, then we are on our way to proving conspiracy.

    Strzok leads to McCabe, and McCabe to Comey. I hope they are after Brennan et al from the overseas part of the Coup.

    But, Clinesmith is a sure thing. And the way Barr talks, there will be more than him.

    Is Barr just talking? Maybe. We have been fooled before. But Barr is an honorable man and he has said some very serious things—not just in the Ted Cruz interview—and he does not have to say them to buy time. What are we going to do? Impeach him?

    Nadler already wants to do that—which is a huge plum in Barr’s Resume.

    Wray is a different animal. Another disastrous appointment by Trump. Will be fired the week after the election.

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  32. 335blues says:

    Let me guess, it will take 3-4 years of investigation before any of the terrorists
    and their “antifa” marxist agitator leaders are actually charged with crimes.
    Color me in deep shades of jade.

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  33. CNN_sucks says:

    WTF, Gas bag. Nobody has been arrested yet. Rome is burning. Arrest Comey, you imbecile.

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  34. Pegon Zellschmidt says:

    Reelect Trump and extend the Senate. No more ‘conservative judges’ from the Federalist Society. Judges are unknown quantities for the most part. Judges don’t need to know ‘law’ since they don’t use it. Rather, appoint known conservatives with known views on abortion, immigration, et al. Cruz for example. Ann Coulter😆 Sean Hannity. Mark Levin. Why not?

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  35. gymcy81 says:

    Thank you for posting that interview.

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  36. dcnnc says:

    Anybody else curious as to why Barr would agree to sit for an interview with Cruz’s podcast?

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  37. Tom Hansen says:

    Barr has repeatedly said that Obama and Biden are not being investigated in the Durham investigation. So, to me, that means, despite what Barr has said otherwise, that they will not be indicting anyone for conspiracy of the coup attempt. I gather they will indict some for specific crimes, but not for conspiracy. So, what is the point?

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    • HecklerDon says:

      Respectfully, I do not agree with what you have “gathered.” What he’s said is that in the entire history of our country, we do not usurp the will of the people when it comes to presidential elections by trying to undercut the will of the people by going after presidential candidates criminally. If a presidential candidate is a criminal, let the people convict him at the election box. And also that in the entire history of our country, we have never gone after a former president criminally once that president has left office. That is what he said, and that is the truth.

      But a myriad of ways certainly exist to put together a conspiracy case without incorporating Obama or Biden. For example, if Brennan spearheaded the plan on the fake Russia dossier, and he worked with Clapper to direct Comey, and then Comey worked with others like Struck Stroke to carry out the tasks the’d been assigned, this would be a perfectly viable group to prosecute a conspiracy case against.

      There are a multitude of reasons why a prosecutor might choose to leave out a central player in a conspiracy case. That person could have fled the country. Maybe that person has turned state’s witness. Maybe you just think that person is going to gum up your case and lessen the chances of a successful prosecution, for whatever reason. Maybe the person has $10 billion at his disposal with which to fight, and the rest of the group has $0.50 and a half eaten bag of doritos to their name such that it would be like shootin fish in a barrel if you leave out the rich guy. I’m just trying to come up with reasons off the top of my head here…but one thing is for sure: we need to stay the hell away from creating precedent through which to start mangling every election or, with regard to going after a past president, we don’t want to chill a president’s willingness to enact his political agendas for fear of prosecution after he leaves office…or worse yet, create an environment under which good candidates simply refuse to run because they know they’ll be mercilessly prosecuted criminally whether they’ve done anything wrong or not.

      So with all due respect, slow down there pancho…

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  38. Raised on Reagan says:

    I understand the frustration expressed by some here. but it’s not over yet.

    It’s always darkest before the dawn.

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  39. Donna in Oregon says:

    Seems Lying Ted Cruz is peacocking for the Supreme Court.

    How is Ruth Hater Ginsburg’s these days? Doing Yoga, lifting 2-pound weights, sleeping through her workdays.

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  40. dr D says:

    wow. Tough crowd here.

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