Oh My, Interesting Ramifications – FISA Court Requires DOJ/FBI To Provide Names of Targets Within Corrupt Surveillance Applications…

Things are getting interesting, potential ramifications are growing, as the FISA Court responds to the latest information from the DOJ Office of Inspector General (OIG).

After a review of 29 FISA applications, from eight FBI field offices, the OIG informed the FBI and DOJ that none of the surveillance applications were compliant with the Woods procedures. Meaning zero applications had FBI evidence to support the validity of the claims within the FISA warrants.  That’s a very big problem if those FISA warrants were used to gather evidence used to prosecute the 29 targets of the applications.

In a FISC order released today [pdf here] presiding Judge James Boasberg is ordering the FBI to identify who those targets were; and asking the DOJ to explain what they did with the evidence gathered as a result of the fraudulently obtained FISA warrants.  Big.

[pdf here]

If evidence obtained by execution of a fraudulently obtained warrant was used in the prosecution of any of those targets; there’s a possibility those cases will be reopened.

Considering the twenty nine applications from the OIG go back to 2015, there’s a lot of potential for some downstream consequences not only for those 29 applications, but also for all FBI FISA applications with a similar level of neglect.

In the issue of the Carter Page application the DOJ and FBI were already looking into how far the ripple effects carried.  The FBI was already undertaking a ‘sequestration effort’ to identify the fruit of the poisonous tree; and the results are still unknown.

This order from Judge Boasberg essentially expands that type of review upon another 29 applications and demands the DOJ identify to the court who were the targets.  The court can then, on their own, look and see if any of those U.S. persons were prosecuted in court.

This is a hot mess…. And it is far from over.

You can read Boasberg’s order HERE.

BACKSTORY – The OIG began reviewing FISA applications from eight field offices (the proverbial “rank and file”). The OIG selected 29 FISA applications from those field offices over the period of October 2014 to September 2019. Additionally, every field office and the DOJ-NSD generate internal “Accuracy Reviews”, or self-checks on FISA applications; so the OIG inspected 42 of the accuracy review FISA files to determine if they were compliant.

The results were so bad the IG produced an interim memorandum to the DOJ and FBI [pdf link here]. Within the 17-page-memo the IG notifies Attorney General Bill Barr and FBI Director Chris Wray that all of the claimed FISA processes, in every field office, are grossly deficient, and in most cases there is zero compliance with FISA standards. The IG memorandum is presented before the IG even looks at the specifics of the non-compliance.

Below is the report/memorandum. Additionally I am summarizing the stunning top-lines identified by the IG memo:

  • The IG reviewed 29 FISA applications, surveillance warrants, used against U.S. persons.
  • The 29 FISA applications were from eight different field offices.
  • The FISA applications were from Oct/2014 through Sept/2019.
  • All of the FISA applications reviewed were approved by the FISA court.

The ‘Woods File’ is the mandatory FBI evidence file that contains the documentary proof to verify all statements against U.S. persons that are contained in the FISA application. Remember, this is a secret court, the FISA applications result in secret surveillance and wiretaps against U.S. persons outside the fourth amendment.

♦ Within the 29 FISA applications reviewed, four were completely missing the Woods File. Meaning there was zero supportive evidence for any of the FBI claims against U.S. persons underpinning the FISA application. [ie. The FBI just made stuff up]

♦ Of the remaining 25 FISA applications, 100% of them, all of them, were materially deficient on the woods file requirement; and the average number of deficiencies per file was 20. Meaning an average of twenty direct statements against the target, supporting the purpose of the FISA application, sworn by the FBI affiant, were unsubstantiated. [The low was 5, the high was 63, the average per file was 20]

♦ Half of the FISA applications reviewed used Confidential Human Sources (CHS’s). The memo outlines that “many” of applications containing CHS claims had no supportive documentation attesting to the dependability of the CHS.

♦ Two of the 25 FISA applications reviewed had renewals; meaning the FISA applications were renewed to extended surveillance, wiretaps, etc. beyond the initial 90-days. None of the renewals had any re-verification. Both FISAs that used renewals were not compliant.

But wait… it gets worse.

The DOJ and FBI have an internal self-check mechanism. The DOJ National Security Division (DOJ-NSD) chief counsel, and the chief counsel for every FBI field office are required to conduct an “Accuracy Review” of selected FISA applications. One per field office (25 to 30 field offices),which are also sent to DOJ-NSD (main justice) for general counsel inspection.

Keep in mind, these “accuracy reviews” are known in advance, so the FBI has all the time in the world to select the best FISA file for review. Additionally, I surmise the OIG wanted to inspect the “accuracy review” FISA’s because they would show the best light on the overall system itself. The OIG was looking for the best, most compliant, product to report on.

However, when the OIG inspected 42 of these Accuracy Reviews, the IG identified that only three of them had accurately assembled documents (Woods File) supporting the application. The error rate within the files self-checked was over 93%.

So the best FBI files are selected to undergo the FBI and DOJ-NSD accuracy review. The accuracy review takes place by FBI legal counsel and DOJ-NSD legal counsel. However, the IG finds that only three FBI applications in the accuracy reviews were compliant.

The error rate in the files undertaken by the internal accuracy review was over 93% (3 compliant out of 42 reviewed). These were the FISA files with the greatest possibility of being accurate. Let that sink in…

Here’s the OIG Report/Memorandum:

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287 Responses to Oh My, Interesting Ramifications – FISA Court Requires DOJ/FBI To Provide Names of Targets Within Corrupt Surveillance Applications…

  1. starfcker says:

    If I had been prosecuted by the FBI anytime going back to the de Robert Mueller was appointed FBI director, I’d be getting a good lawyer. What a stink bomb that institution has turned out to be.

    Liked by 29 people

    • Fringe Dweller says:

      It was designed to be the American Stasi from the very beginning.

      Liked by 7 people

      • X XYZ says:

        It took 50 years or more to become a full blown Stasi.

        Think American. Can’t mention any foreign words here describing how our government is being run.

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        • nimrodman says:

          After submission of “names”:

          ……………………. Name ..Affiliation
          Target 1 Name: xxxxxxxx (GOP)
          Target 2 Name: xxxxxxxx (GOP)
          Target 3 Name: xxxxxxxx (TrueTheVote)
          Target 4 Name: xxxxxxxx (GOP)
          Target 5 Name: xxxxxxxx (JudicialWatch)
          Target 6 Name: xxxxxxxx (GOP)

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          • WVPatriot says:

            nimrodman, you definitely understand the jist of the matter.

            Liked by 2 people

          • dcnnc says:

            You can bet senior people in the NRA are on that list.

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            • TheLastDemocrat says:

              I think it will be a game changer if when we learn that they had faked up a warrant to surveil Ted Cruz.

              There will be no disguise. It will be obvious: Dems went there. Weaponized government.

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          • X XYZ says:

            Conservative? What is in store for conservatives?
            As was once said: “To a gas chamber! GO!”

            But that no longer exists in such a harsh way. No, it no longer does. Maybe this is “progress” of a sort? Same program, different application?

            We’ve now been programmed to live with a “kindler, gentler” way of enforcement. Don’t call it mind control. Actually, let’s now call it PERSUASION. We made them an (attractive) offer that they couldn’t refuse. It’s choice of something different – maybe something seeming somewhat the same – or something less attractive.

            To a re-education camp, please go now. Try it. You’ll like it. It’s quite pleasant. It’s like going to school – or like going to camp. They have three hot meals and a cot for you there, as long as you do what you are told. You’ll enjoy being there. Same as living in a college dorm. Same as in living in mom & dad’s basement until you are 40+. (Unless mommy and daddy want you there, to be in their home, until they die. That’s often the problem. The fruit does not fall far from the tree.) It’s the same as they have in the military. But there, you will have to follow orders. Same as in prison. Bureau of Corrections. You ARE correctable – aren’t you?

            Some people want to become adults and to act like an adult, ASAP. That usually occurs between ages 18 -21 or so. Some need remedial re-education, and some don’t. It’s not a ‘one size fits all’ solution. (Authoritarianism always IS that type of “solution”.)

            Some people always want to remain like children, receiving endless sustenance, until the day they die. That’s what keeps the Liberals in power – keeping ’em on the teat – in every way – from the womb to the tomb.

            But what should we do with those who don’t need incarceration or re-education, but who STILL refuse to comply with our methods…???

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      • prtomr says:

        It was J Edgar Hoover’s playtoy.

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    • Mark L. says:

      Like

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    • coltlending says:

      I’m afraid that might be said about a lot of our alphabet agencies.

      One silver lining In the death and destructing of Covid19 might be that the fat in government and Americans tolerance in general for this type of DOS, DOJ and FBI BS will go to ZERO, god willing.

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      Is this a class action law suit looking for a good lawyer?

      Liked by 3 people

  2. AvengerDave says:

    I would think that with a 100% failure rate the courts review would be much more extensive than just the ones caught.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Chewbarkah says:

      Yes. The 29 were a sample, and as Sundance says, likely were the ones expected to make the FBI look good. One hopes that Judge Boasberg is also using the 29 as a sample, to see whether materials from the warrants were used illegally, as a prelude to ordering review of every FISA warrant application since Day 1. It would be interesting to see whether proper procedures were followed initially, followed by systematic failure under particular FBI directors and AGs.

      I doubt that the people who failed to follow Constitutional safeguards for getting the warrants had any compunction about using the fruit of the poisoned tree. But it is quite possible that many defective FISA warrants did not lead to evidence being misused in court, because they are designed to surveille/spy (for good reasons or political mischief) rather than collect evidence used for indictment and prosecution.

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      • mark says:

        They need to examine every one of the FISA applications going back 10 years or so. How many FISA warrants are obtained every year? If this isn’t done…I see this as a move to shield the FBI.

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        • jumpinjarhead says:

          Go back to January 2007.

          Liked by 1 person

          • J says:

            Go back to the day after the Patriot Act was made law.

            Bush was just a different flavor of deep state globalist traitor.

            Liked by 1 person

            • jumpinjarhead says:

              Excellent point about the Patriot (sick humor calling it that) Act and I would add the establishment of the Department of “Homeland” Security as well. As one who was in the military through much of the Cold War, it has always struck me negatively that the term “Homeland” was used. Such nomenclature was previously somewhat unique to totalitarian nations that used such terms as “motherland” and “homeland” to encourage “patriotism” from the masses.

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    • James Carpenter aka "Felix" says:

      What our law-abiding, God-fearing, bagpipe-tooting AG and Judicial-Watchers, the pantheons of outraged citizens couldn’t budge…
      … may well see the call to accounting of FISA criminality by…
      …wait for it…
      CRIMINALS!!!! The garden variety criminal, whose lawyer turns his client’s case on its head due to… “faulty” FISA warrants/ snooping.
      Talk about fruits of the poison tree. 🙂
      Fiction writers and history chroniclers are going to the mat on this one.

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    • BitterC says:

      They should order a review right now of all active FISA warrants.

      Congress also needs to have the FISA judges past and present in for a little chat

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  3. Bryan Alexander says:

    WOW! Talk about a bombshell ruling being overwhelmed by other news.

    Liked by 17 people

    • vikingmom says:

      Almost like they knew this was coming….

      Liked by 9 people

    • delighteddeplorable says:

      And yet things are happening under the WuFlu radar. Those wheels of justice turning slowly but grinding exceedingly fine. Hopefully.

      Liked by 3 people

    • lieutenantm says:

      AND this particular judge has been badmouthed to the moon by “our team” before he took office……..as biased toward the Deep State and corrupt? HOW ABOUT SOME MENTION OF THAT HERE….AND MAYBE AN APOLOGY. What i think is people often step up to the plate and do the right thing when the time comes. Boasberg? Should be thanked and remembered for these VERY honorable actions.

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      • mark says:

        I’ll apologize when I see prosecutions to the full extent of the law to everyone involved. Until that time..no apology owed.

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        • Doppler says:

          Judges and DOJ play different roles. Judges decide cases. They don’t run things, other than their own docket, which is a full-time job, plus. But they can also initiate discipline against lawyers who appear before them and violate standards, such as lying to the court. I think Judge Boasberg should consider requiring Robert Barr and Chris Wray to appear before him to show why they and a whole slew of prosecutors and agents involved shouldn’t be held in contempt and referred to the bar for disciplinary action for the systemic violation of their professional duties in this regard. And invite in cameras so the public can see.

          Then fashion an order to remedy all the harm done to those targeted by these unlawful actions, and to discipline all those involved. Let it be the worst day for the DOJ and FBI in court ever.

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          • jumpinjarhead says:

            From what we have seen so far in the scandalous handling of the Carter Page case and suggested in the more recent disclosures, federal criminal laws were violated and if so, contempt sanctions and bar referrals are simply inadequate.

            Every time a FISA application was falsely signed as “verified,” 18 USC Sec. 1621 is implicated. I will not hold my breath, however, that any of this will ever be addressed in a criminal trial in a US District courtroom, much less any prison time served by anyone involved in theses abuses.

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      • Beau Geste says:

        No apology. The FISC has known for years that the DOJ/FBI are crooked, and lie. The “see no evil” FISC was forced to admit by Admiral Rogers that 85% of obama ‘unmasking’ spying from 2012 was illegal (they closed their eyes to it before being forced to admit it by facts forced on them). But the FISC have done nothing but continue to grant fraudulent, Tainted FISA Warrants, like 42 noted here, and the carter page ‘russian agent’ fiasco they never expected to become public from their secret Star Chamber court.

        The FISC was created with only one purpose: to protect civil rights by the DOJ/FBI and other government officials who had been abusing the Constitution. The FISC has completely failed what it admits is an ‘extra heavy duty because defendants re not represented”.

        How many Woods files of these 42 fraudulent Warrants did the FISC asked to see before granting them, to confirm civil rights compliance? How many pertinent revelatory cross-examining questions did the FISC ask of ANY of these 42 Warrant applications, or any of the thousands of others? These are supposed to be experienced judges. Yet none of them said “send me the Woods file and all your backup tomorrow… as a crosscheck because the defendants are not represented and therefor can’t do it. It is my job to just check on a few of these files from time to time”.

        Any honest Federal Judge will protect the propriety of court proceedings by diciplining liars and unethical conduct, and will immediately withdraw improvidantly granted, tainted Orders. Why wouldn’t an honest FISC judge do that, especially when there is no defense counsel to do it automatically, and the ONLY job of a FISC judge is to protect civil rights of unrepresented US Citizens?

        No, the the FISC just issued these fraudulent Warrants, willy nilly, and has not protected the propriety of its proceedings. Ongoing proof of bad behavior of an FISC which cannot be trusted with its only job of conducting proceedings to protect civil rights, is that they have not fined, disciplined, submitted for perjury prosecution or direct imprisonment, the DOJ/FBI personnel who lie to them, withhold information from them, or fail to immediately report information contradicting their lies. The FISC has failed to withdraw any of their tainted carter page Warrants, as any honest court would do. Maintaining the issuance of these Warrants sullies the proceedings of the court, and makes the FISC complicit in the approval of illegal spying done under their fraudulent Orders.

        The FISC may be scrambling now to try to protect itself. But the current judges need to be replaced, and a Public Defender’s Office needs to be created to keep an eye on the new judges and the DOJ/FBI liars.

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      • unconqueredone says:

        He may be honorable, or he may be in CYA mode. Time will tell.

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    • Peoria Jones says:

      Yeah, it’s just good to see SD is keeping an eye on it. Ready to get back to some non-Covid business here!

      Liked by 8 people

  4. Elric VIII says:

    It looks to me like the FISC is in CYA mode. They have been complicit in the DOJ/FBI shenanigans from the start. Now they are finding themselves between the proverbial rock and a hard place, and must find a way to justify their phony baloney jobs. Harrumph! Harrumph! Hey! I didn’t get a harrumph out of that guy!

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  5. Harvey Lipschitz says:

    Since the applicant for warrants DID. NOT. comply, we have no reason to believe they have any intention of compliance with this order.
    This virtual non-compliance shows Mueller Dossier based on crumbling ‘evidence”

    Liked by 7 people

  6. vikingmom says:

    Wow! No wonder the Left and the media (but I repeat myself) are pushing the COVID19 story 24/7…they cannot allow stories like this to come to light!

    Liked by 17 people

    • Alison Wilson says:

      For some reason I am unable to up vote your comment. So… here:
      UP, UP, UP, UP

      Liked by 4 people

    • X XYZ says:

      Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain…
      Only pay attention to the shiny object I have in my hand…
      Focus upon it.
      Only pay attention to this. Not to that.
      Only pay attention to this, not to that.
      You are getting sleepy… so sleepy…
      You will remember what we suggest you to do. It is only a suggestion. You will remember all that we direct you to do.

      Your computer only has a button labeled “Start”. There is no “stop” or “off” button on it. You can only think and say “yes” to everything, as suggested. Yes is always good. No is always bad. You will no longer think or say “no”.

      You cannot turn this message off and walk away…

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    • Snellvillebob says:

      Or maybe this it why the FISA Court is doing this at this time because no one should notice.

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      • vikingmom says:

        A definite possibility – anytime an alphabet agency does a Friday night news dump it means they do NOT want anyone to hear about it!

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        • coolmamie says:

          Actually, that is not as true as it used to be. There are some weekend shows – especially on Sunday, that repeat over and over. I think Friday stuff gets a lot of play.

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  7. Pale rider says:

    Turn the guns on the executioners. Sound good?

    Liked by 4 people

    • Risa says:

      Only if we can each have a turn.

      Liked by 1 person

    • mike dennis says:

      Except the “guns” will be a proclamation from Grahamnesty that he wants to “get to the bottom of this” followed quickly by a Grassley — “sternly worded letter.”

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      • Beau Geste says:

        The DOJFBI are only merely “less than candid” and their collaborators at the FISC are merely “less than protective of civil rights”, so they match and are secret with no appeal, and there is no problem…

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  8. Doris Johns says:

    Sounds like entire fbi is corrupt.

    Liked by 1 person

    • MD says:

      I’m thinking that just like when a police officer lies under oath, all their previous testimony in other cases gets discredited and reviewed. Also, they are essentially useless as a law enforcement officer because they are proven to have lied. I wonder if this could be applied to the FBI as a whole (it ain’t just a few at the top), deeming them a corrupt, discredited organization. At what point do they scrap the entire FBI and start over?

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      • James Carpenter aka "Felix" says:

        MD, a legion of trial lawyers will put your posit to the test. Not talking singular here. But hard questions requiring judicial clarity will arrive at judicial-quality answers.
        The FBI (and maybe even Barr/Roberts) will probably squirm a bit in their seats.
        Although I hope they fry in those chairs.

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        • X XYZ says:

          “fry in those chairs…” Ain’t gonna happen.
          The electric chair was rendered obsolete as being ‘cruel and unusual punishment’, long ago. Punishment in prison today provides three hots and a cot + conjugal visits, at the very least.

          OK. Obviously the comment was metaphorical.

          “a legion of trial lawyers…”
          I’ll bet they aren’t working pro-bono. All lawyers, even the poor and lousy ones, (and yes, there are legions of those) work for $$$. Where’s the payoff?

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      • Beau Geste says:

        Judges are Constitutionally only to serve during “good behavior”. The FISC has demonstrated exceptionally Bad Behavior over a long time. The failed FISC judges should be removed for not doing their ONLY job, which is protecting the civil rights of unrepresented defendants from lying, political, overzealous, unethical DOJ/FBI personnel.

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  9. frangelica1 says:

    Hopefully, some indictments and appropriate jail time will be administered to these government offenders from the DOJ/FBI and all those cases involving US citizens get overturned.

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  10. justlizzyp says:

    I’m not entirely clear on the process, but isn’t the Woods file supposed to accompany the warrant application that is presented to the FISC? That suggests to me that the FISC judges KNEW there was no Woods file and approved anyway, unless I’ve misunderstood the process.

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    • Bendix says:

      I want to see judges jailed. Period.

      Liked by 5 people

      • justlizzyp says:

        Someone has corrected my understanding, and I appreciate that. But it is still really hard to see this as anything but a rubber stamp process by a group of people who were entrusted to care. So yes, I’d love to see some consequences.

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    • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

      It looks like the whole process has devolved into more of a “Here judge, sign this and then we can get to our 12:30 reservation at Favios Exquisite Restaurante.”

      Liked by 1 person

    • sarasotosfan says:

      No. The Woods File is not filed with the court. It was supposed to be an FBI internal control procedure.

      Liked by 1 person

    • FPCHmom says:

      When all of the Clinesmith stuff first came out, I believe it also came out that there is someone who’s job it is to “vouch” for the Woods file and sign off on it being legit.

      I bet even the high level people who signed off on these warrants never looked at the Woods files either because they wanted plausible deniability on what was (or was not) in them.

      The court is probably two steps removed from the Woods file. Remember, they did not even ask any probing questions about these warrants when the requests were made.

      The judges assume the due diligence is done by the FBI before the request, giving them plausible deniability as well.

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      • justlizzyp says:

        Sickening isn’t it?

        Liked by 1 person

        • Snellvillebob says:

          Yes, it really is. I really don’t think I can respect anyone from the DOJ or FBI again.

          Liked by 1 person

          • justlizzyp says:

            Many members of the Judiciary are also highly suspect at this point. We heard for how many years that it was SOOOO hard to get a FISA warrant and if they got even one on CP it was a big deal, much less 3 renewals,,,,turns out I could have walked in with a note my granddaughter wrote in sparkly crayon that said ‘My daddy is a big meanie head because he farts’ and they’d have granted a warrant! With no questions. What I really, really want to know, though, is whether the judge who denied the warrant was the same judge on the rotation as the one who approved any of the CP warrants.

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  11. SSI01 says:

    At long last, the reckoning may be beginning. Once it’s public it’s that much harder for the DOJ to ignore the fruit of the poisonous tree; these cases will HAVE to be revisited and some if not all convictions obtained thereby set aside.

    And, we are seeing why this covid-19 BS was pushed so hard just at the time stuff like this was just beginning to see the light of day. Any doubts about this being another conspiracy against Trump – and us?

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    • Bendix says:

      If COVID-19 was a deliberate attack on the US, as some theorize, who could we depend on to investigate? Would it be our corrupt CIA looking for the truth?
      Not saying I believe any conspiracy theories, just pointing out that if a foreign country wanted to plot against us, who would interfere with them?

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  12. Reserved55 says:

    The FISC judges are just as corrupt as the FBI.

    Strozk’s good buddy Rudy Contreras is the proof.

    Liked by 15 people

  13. convert says:

    So. Is Andy McCabe still pontificating on CNN regularly about all this? Has anybody on CNN ever asked him, you know, a question about the Horowitz finding? Hmm. Bueller? Bueller? Is there a real reporter left ANYWHERE at CNN? I am honestly asking because I never watch them.

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    • littleanniefannie says:

      Let’s see if I can help you out with some names: Ida Know, Knott Mee, Liarpants en Fiyer, Lefty Dribble. These are the closest to real reporters at CNN. MSNBC has Rachel’s Mad Cow, Mee Cah and Blow, Al Brainless Sharp-tongue and Bringham Bren-nim.

      None of these is a real reporter. Real prevaricators. Yep, the whole lot of their staff.

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  14. jb says:

    “After a review of 29 FISA applications, from eight FBI field offices, the OIG informed the FBI and DOJ that none of the surveillance applications were compliant with the Woods procedures”

    Let’s b careful here: the goal of such a report will be to say “see… we didn’t uniquely target Flynn, manafort, papadopolous, trump…. we did it to everybody. See we didn’t discriminate.”

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  15. Skidroe says:

    Where is Justice Roberts?

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    • Alli says:

      Exactly, where is Justice Roberts?

      Liked by 1 person

      • X XYZ says:

        Chief Justice Roberts. Where is he?

        Sometimes he sits on the bench. He delivers edicts, pronouncements, and sometimes he and his buddies (ahem – wise “colleagues”) even legislate from the bench. All their decisions are determined by a consensus – just like modern science is. He collects his fat Gov’t check every year, until his death or retirement. It’s a sinecure. It’s the American version of the Papacy. It’s so GOOD to be the chief justice! It’s the best gig on earth! Even better than being the president! No term limits! As is also with all the Supremes – nobody can tell them that they are wrong, even if they are wrong. And even if anyone does tell them, it makes no difference.
        It doesn’t really matter any nore. Does it?

        Nice work if you can get it…

        Will Justice Ginsberg still be voting and deciding cases after she has assumed room temperature? Everything can be done from home now. Stored “live” on digital recordings. No physical presence is required any more. Dead or alive? Who knows? Isn’t technology wonderful?

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  16. Bullseye says:

    Same as usual fib will no response and just file the letter. Nbd

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  17. Kirsty I says:

    My non legal mind was boggled by Mueller not answering questions that were required and saying, “It’s not my purview”, or “I can’t speak to that”.
    How did he get away with that?
    I’d like to see him get his comeuppance after the $35 million USD farce he perpetrated on the American people, not to mention the judicial system.

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  18. L4grasshopper says:

    How about some consequences for the rotten and corrupt FBI and DOJ scum that lied to the FISA Courts?

    Liked by 4 people

  19. T2020 says:

    It magically disappeared.

    Liked by 2 people

  20. Lady in Red says:

    Treepers, can we name the 29? Guesses? Some are obvious, of course.

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  21. littleanniefannie says:

    The simple fact of the matter is that Obama said repeatedly that there was not a smidgeon of scandal in his administration. He’s correct.there wasn’t even a boatload. There’s a whole blooming Navy full—fleets and fleets of floating turds from Obama’s mouth to his fawning journalists ears! We won’t even talk about the radical leftists he had embedded in DoJ, FBI, CIA, and NSI.
    Coronavirus sure came at a convenient time. They knew this was coming. Hey Georgie Porgie Soros, how deeply are you implicated in this scandal? Let me put it this way, you would have to take off your shoes before you came into my yard, much less my house. In the words of Beldar Conehead, “the stench would be great”.

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  22. JSLIM says:

    now you know why they released the virus

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  23. doofusdawg says:

    Would like to see the targets of the abuse include those under the two hop rule who also may have been targeted…then cross reference with those unmasked in the 702 abuse… just for the hell of it.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      I would like to see some of the potential millions under the 2-hop rule file a class action case against the DOJ, FBI and FISC judges PERSONALLY for violating their civil rights under color of law.

      Let them try to prove carter page is a known russian agent.

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  24. Shyster says:

    The biggest surprise of all, it is not Barr, not the DOJ, not Wray and not the FBI that is treating any of this seriously and actually doing something, it is the actual FISA Court itself. This is some good news. Hey Barr and Wray, what’s your excuse for doing nothing? I have been and am still waiting.

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  25. thedoc00 says:

    Now the real reason Bagpipe Barr was stone walling has surfaced. It will not take long before a the DoJ has to perform a cross reference search from inception of the FISA process to date for EVERY case they prosecuted. Then has to have some sort of legal review.

    Yes, good chance President Trump and company are about to have their day in court but the implications are massive as some really really bad actors could be released based on the findings of that review. Hopefully there are Federal Statutes to hang each and every FBI/DoJ charter who violated the FISA process.

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    • candyman says:

      Through all the setbacks and push-outs I’ve been holding out hope for Trump to unleash something big as payback before the election. Don’t know if another investigation will net anything before then. I was counting on him timing this thing just right.

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  26. upstate909 says:

    Cases re-opened?? In most local communities, if this happened because of a dirty cop or DA, all of the people found guilty would be released from prison and absolved of all charges. Clean slate.

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  27. Bogeyfree says:

    I’d love to see Sidney post here if she thinks any of these 29 FISA may involve General Flynn.

    I really would like to see this case thrown out ASAP not only for General Flynn and his family benefit but so PT could add Sidney as a WH Justice Czar working daily with Barr and Durham to ensure all rocks are being over turned and also I’d like to see PT give Sidney full declass authority to read and review any document involved in our attempts against PT these past three years.

    It is time Mr. President!

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  28. sarasotosfan says:

    Everyone was wondering how many “white hats” in the FBI were going to come forward and turn on Comrade Comey and his crew. It now appears any “white hats” are white simply from lack of experience within “the organization”.

    The tone at the top of this stinking heap of bile isn’t any different at the bottom. Comey and Mueller saw to that very effectively.

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  29. AnotherView says:

    Stunning, just stunning.

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  30. Bubby says:

    Well the fan is finally turned on! We all know what’s going to hit it! Can’t happen soon enough!

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  31. Vince says:

    Maybe the judges can escape and push this back to the FBI giving them faulty information on most of these, but for the ones where there is no backing information at all, the judges are obviously as guilty as the FBI and DOJ.

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  32. JohnCasper says:

    Barr and Wray will not be amused.

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  33. Bogeyfree says:

    Now that this is underway, what about the Logan Act on all this Iran crap and getting a real FISA warrant so we can look backwards these past 4 years to see what various people were talking about.

    And don’t forget the 2 hop rule as you might be able to catch a really big fish then!

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  34. emet says:

    Fruit of the poisonous orchard

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  35. LWGII says:

    And yet, no lawyer has been disbarred. No lawyer has been disciplined. No lawyer has even been kept in during recess. The system is fatally flawed. It must be destroyed.

    Liked by 4 people

  36. sarasotosfan says:

    I neglected to give “credit” to Chris Wray for doing nothing to alter the product the FBI puts out.

    No doubt the IG must have been suprised to find a September 2019 filing that was as corrupt as all the rest. He had to expect that filing to be Ivory Snow in quality since this was filed after all the alleged field training Wray had ordered.

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  37. deplorable says:

    None of this matters anymore. The deep state has successfully run out the clock. They will implement their plan to steal the election in November, and Trump will be done – assuming that he doesn’t suddenly fall ill with CCP virus himself before that.

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  38. burginthorn says:

    Peeling the onion one lawyer at a time.

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  39. Skidroe says:

    Bogeyfree, I get the impression that you would like to see Sidney become WH Justice Czar?

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      PT needs to decide if Barr is about truth and justice for all including those inside the DOJ and FIB.

      If he makes a change he could do the following before noon tomorrow without any input, vote or discussion from the Rino controlled Senate. It would be done with the stoke of his pen!

      1) Slide Eugene Scalia over from Sec. of Labor to AG

      2) Because Sec. Scalia has already gone through the Senate confirmation process for the Sec of Labor position, no additional Senate approvals are needed.

      3) To help AG Scalia, appoint Sidney Powell as WH Justice Czar. (Note Obama appointed 45 Czars during his presidency)

      4) WH Appointees / Czars DO NOT Require Senate Confirmation so both Mr. Scalia and Ms. Powell can start next day if necessary.

      5) In her role as Justice Czar, Sidney works daily with Durham and the US Attorney’s from St. Louis, Pittsburgh and Brooklyn to allow a second set of eyes and to ensure all stones are being turned over.

      6) PT provides both Mr. Scalia and Ms. Powell with full declass authority to read and review all unredacted documents related to this coup.

      7) Because of Sidney’s past experience and knowledge of the DOJ and how it should work vs how it has been working, she is perfect to help AG Scalia bring about equal justice and real change within the DOJ and FBI.

      Mr. President, many Americans have lost hope in DOJ leadership and ask that changes are made to bring about real and equal justice to the perpetrators who attempted to over throw a duly elected President twice.

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      • BF – I agree with you now – as before – on these points you make. But, since I hit my 70s, I no longer believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny or the Great Pumpkin. I’ve been disappointed too many times.

        MAGA

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  40. TwoLaine says:

    ABOUT TIME.

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  41. 335blues says:

    The targets of illegal FISA investigations should SUE THE FBI, and whoever else were involved.
    Civil court would get a lot more mileage out of discovery.
    The perps must be held accountable because this is America.
    We are not a 3rd world banana republic.

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  42. JohnCasper says:

    The FISA Court, the DOJ and the FBI are among Satan’s most favorite pets and greatest inventions… … … along with the house fly, herpes and Coronovirus.

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  43. going back to 2014 so I am sure the targets were randomly 50/50 conservatives/progressives.

    as lisa page would say, “right? right?”

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  44. frankmystery says:

    Shouldn’t it be obvious by that sample the entire system needs to be fully investigated, audited, and suspended pending full review. Private industry doesn’t tolerate incompetence like this and government shouldn’t either.

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  45. Jim in TN says:

    I think they should notify everybody they abused. And when they abused them. And not just the targets but everybody they hopped. As in 1 hop or 2 hop.

    I thought this for the political abuses. But I think it should be true for all cases. Way too big a chance of convictions based on fruit of the poisoned tree.

    And for those who think we shouldn’t tell terrorists, remember we set terrorists free because of past abuses. Bill Ayers for one.

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  46. Pegon Zellschmidt says:

    Here’s my guess: the Muslims who might have been targets will be released, charges dropped. All warrants that were political enemies of Deep State/Obama will find some way to remain redacted.

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  47. boomerbeth says:

    The illegal surveillance likely began long before that application was ever submitted to the FISA Court. CYA BACKFIRED.

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  48. j'accuse says:

    How did these warrants with ‘zero supportive evidence for any of the FBI claims against U.S. persons underpinning the FISA application’ get signed by a judge & which judges signed them? Also it has been known for at least 2 years that the Carter Page affidavit was likely false yet no action by this judge or the others. It’s too little too late for the US citizens who had their rights violated but I blame a corrupt system with no oversight. I don’t think it’s possible for even the most conscientious judge to function in such a system where the pressures are enormous to grant FBI requests based on agents’ claims they are protecting national security or preventing terrorist activities.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Bur any conscientious judge would immediately withdraw tainted Warrants, so the court is not a participant in civil rights violations the court was designed to stop, or an agent in illegally-obtained spying.

      But not these secret Star Chamber judges who expect secrecy and are not subject to appeal review of their Fraudulent Warrants…

      The sleazy FISC did not even keep a written transcript of the lying DOJ/FBI proceedings, until recent scrutiny. (that would make it too easy to prosecute the DOJ/FBI for lying and unethical conduct)

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  49. Drogers says:

    The current director of the FBI is clueless, overwhelmed, swamp creature, complacent, and confused.
    re: Director Wray’s picture – you can find it in the dictionary under worthless.

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  50. WSB says:

    If there are missing Woods’ files, not attached to these FISA submissions, wouldn’t the judge know?

    Liked by 1 person

    • MaineCoon says:

      How could they NOT know? OH, that’s right. they never bothered to open and read the filed. Just signed the warrant to spy on American citizens.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Beau Geste says:

        You want to spy on the GOP candidate and now President? Based on deceitful 2-hops from your proven-wrong claim that an Annapolis Navy, CIA-FBI agent is a russian spy?

        Just put a little yellow sticker where you want us to sign. No problem. no one will ever find out ‘by the book’, because we are a secret Star Chamber court w8th no Appellate Review.

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      • WSB says:

        Cripes…if that! Looks like a turnstile? Maybe no one ever showed up? How would we know?

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