President Trump Remarks While Signing Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES Act) – Video and Transcript…

Earlier today President Trump signed the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES Act) in the oval office.  [Video and Transcript Below]

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[Transcript] – THE PRESIDENT: Well, thank you all very much. This is a very important day. I’ll sign the single-biggest economic relief package in American history and, I must say, or any other package, by the way. It’s twice as large as any relief ever signed. It’s $2.2 billion, but it actually goes up to 6.2 — potentially — billion dollars — trillion dollars. So you’re talking about 6.2 trillion-dollar bill. Nothing like that. And this will deliver urgently needed relief to our nation’s families, workers, and businesses. And that’s what this is all about.

And it got a 96 to nothing. And, I don’t know, what was the number in Congress?

PARTICIPANT: A voice vote.

THE PRESIDENT: A voice? It was fantastic.

PARTICIPANT: I think it was just as close.

THE PRESIDENT: That’s pretty amazing. That’s about the same thing. Right, Kevin?

LEADER MCCARTHY: Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: So, that’s fantastic. But I want to thank Republicans and Democrats for coming together, setting aside their differences, and putting America first.

This legislation provides for direct payments to individuals and unprecedented support to small businesses. We’re going to keep our small businesses strong and our big businesses strong. And that’s keeping our country strong and our jobs strong.

This historic bill includes the following:

* $300 billion in direct cash payments will be available to

every American citizen earning less than $99,000 per year; $3,400 for a typical family of four. So a family of four: $3,400.

* And then $350 billion in job retention loans for small

businesses, with loan forgiveness available for businesses that continue paying their workers. The workers get paid.

* Approximately $250 billion in expanded unemployment

benefits. The average worker who has lost his or her job will receive 100 percent of their salary for up to four full months.

So, things like this have never happened in our country.

* $500 billion in support for hard-hit industries, with a ban

on corporate stock buybacks — we don’t let them buy back the stock; we don’t let that happen — and tough limits on executive compensation.

* Over $100 billion to support our heroic doctors, nurses, and

hospitals. And you see what’s happening. And I want to thank, while we’re here, also the incredible job that’s done by the Army Corps of Engineers and by FEMA. It’s been incredible. They did four hospitals in two days or three days, in New York. And they’re, like, incredible structures. What a job they’ve been doing. And they’re doing them all over the country.

* $45 billion for the Disaster Relief Fund, supporting our

state, local, and tribal leaders.

* $27 billion for the development of vaccines, therapies, and

other public health response efforts, including $16 billion to build up the Strategic National Stockpile with critical stockpiles. And I’m going to — we have tremendous supplies coming into the stockpile, and you’ll be seeing that and hearing about it in a little bit because we’re doing a news conference at 5:30 on what’s happening.

We’ve had tremendous results on the respirators. We’ve had great results on just about everything we’re talking about. Boeing just announced that they’re going to be making the plastic field shields — the actual shields, which are hard to come by, and they’re going to be making them by the thousands a week.

And the ventilators, which is probably the most difficult because it’s like — it’s like building a car — we will be announcing thousands of — are going to be built and we have them under contract and we have fast deliveries. As you know, we delivered thousands to New York. And unfortunately — they were delivered to a warehouse, which was good — unfortunately, they didn’t take them, but now they’re taking them. New York is now taking them and redistributing them around the areas that they need.

So you have also $3.5 billion to states to expand childcare benefits for healthcare workers, first responders, and others on the frontlines of this crisis, and $1 billion for securing supplies under the Defense Protection Act. And, as you know, I’ve enacted the act. We’ve used it three or four times. I pulled it back three times because the companies came through, in the end. They didn’t need the act. It’s been great leverage.

I have instituted it against General Electric. We thought we had a deal for 40,000 ventilators and, all of the sudden, the 40,000 came down to 6,000. And then they talked about a higher price than we were discussing, so I didn’t like it. So we did — we did activate it, with respect to General Motors. And hopefully, maybe we won’t even need the full activation. We’ll find out. But we need the ventilators.

I said hello today — I called him — a wonderful guy, Boris Johnson. As you know, he tested positive. And before he even said hello, he said, “We need ventilators.” I said, “Wow. That’s a big statement.” And hopefully, he’s going to be in good shape.

I just spoke to Angela Merkel, and she’s quarantined also. She is right now, for a period of two weeks, being forced to stay in her house. So this is just an incredible situation.

Last night, I spoke to President Xi. We talked about the experience that they had in China and all of the things that have taken place. And we learned a lot. They’ve had a very tough experience, and they’re doing well and he’s doing well. President Xi is doing very well. But we learned a lot and we have great communication together.

We’re going to be sent great data from China — things that happened that they see that — you know, they’ve had a — they’ve had an early experience, and we’re getting all of that information. Much of it has already been sent. It was sent yesterday and sent to our scientists to study. So we’ll have more on that also. We’ll be discussing that at 5:30.

I just want to thank the people behind me. They’ve been incredible friends. They’ve been warriors. They — there’s nobody tougher or smarter than the people standing alongside of me. And I think I want to start off by asking Mitch and then Kevin to speak, and then we’re going to go through a few of the folks in the room if they’d like to say something.

But, Mitch, I’d like — I’d love to say a few words because you — this man worked 24 hours a day for a long time. This is the result. It’s the biggest ever — ever approved in Congress: 6.2 bill- — $6.2 trillion. So, you know, we used to get used to the billion. It used to be million, then it was billion, now it’s trillion. And it’s going to go a long way. It’s going to make a lot of people very happy.

Mitch McConnell, please.

LEADER MCCONNELL: Thank you, Mr. President. Let me just say this is a proud moment for our country, for the President. The Republicans and the Democrats all pulled together and passed the biggest bill in history in record time.

I also want to thank Kevin McCarthy and our leaders on the Republican side in the House who helped speed this through to passage. The American people needed this rescue package, they needed it quickly, and we delivered. It’s a proud moment for all of us. Mr. President, thanks for the opportunity to be here.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. I’d love to shake your hand, but Anthony would get angry at me if I did that. (Laughter.) So I better not do it. I can’t — it’s so natural. I just want to go back and shake his hand.

They’ve done such an incredible job. Kevin, please.

LEADER MCCARTHY: Yeah, I do want to start. I want to thank all — the real — the real answer to America is: We’re listening to you. You do your part, and we’re going to do ours, and that’s exactly what’s happening today.

What Leader McConnell did was amazing. He made it bipartisan, bicameral. Everybody was involved. I wish we could have signed this earlier this week; maybe there wouldn’t be as many people who are out of work. But this will put people back to work.

I also want to thank Secretary Mnuchin. You’ve done an amazing job, and we thank you for that, and all the team that’s here.

Look, as I said in my speech, the virus is here. We didn’t ask for it. We didn’t invite it. We didn’t choose it. But we are going to defeat it together because we’re going to work together, and this is the first start of it. The hospitals will get money — the money they need. The small businesses will be able to hire their employees back. That is a grant; you don’t have to borrow from that place. The other businesses get a retention to keep your employees on. This has something for everything.

And to the task force and the Vice President, all the work that you’re doing with this President, this will be the needed resources you need as well. And thank you for that, and thank you for your leadership, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: Very special.

Mike Pence? Mike? Could you please say something? You’ve been working very hard, in charge of our task force. And then I’d like to ask Steve to say a few words.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Mr. President. Thanks for giving me the opportunity just to express all of our appreciation and the gratitude to the American people for the accomplishment that’s reflected in the legislation that you’ll sign in just a few moments.

You told the American people that we would do whatever it takes. You called on the Congress to step forward to make coronavirus testing free for every American, to make paid family leave available.

The Congress, with the leaders gathered around us here, stepped forward in a bipartisan fashion and delivered. But today, every American family, every American business, can know that help is on the way.

And I want to thank Leader McConnell for his yeoman’s work in really forging a bipartisan bill in the United States Senate. I want to thank Leader McCarthy for his great work. But as the President said, I also want to thank the Democrat and Republican leadership across the House and Senate. This is an American accomplishment. And, Mr. President, it’s exactly what you asked the Congress to deliver for the American people.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much, Mike. And Steve Mnuchin, you know how hard he’s been working. And, Steve, please say a few words.

SECRETARY MNUCHIN: Mr. President, thank you very much for your leadership and for the Vice President’s leadership. You made it very clear to us, last week, we should think big, that this was a war on the virus, and that we should have the resources to protect American workers and American business.

And I’d like to thank the Senate. It was a great honor, Mitch, to work with you and everyone on a bipartisan basis to get this done. This is going to be a great thing for the American workers. And, Kevin McCarthy, thank you for all the work in the House did to pass this quickly.

So, at Treasury, as I’ve said, we are committed to move forward quickly, and we’re going to get money in people’s pockets quickly.

Thank you, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: Great job, Steve. Gene? Please.

SECRETARY SCALIA: This is a great day for American workers, protecting American workers, American jobs. It’s been a hallmark of this presidency, and this bill today is another very important step in that direction. It includes unprecedented support for American workers who’ve lost their jobs, through no fault of their own because of this virus, and gives them, as near as we could, the same wage they would have gotten, through unemployment insurance if they’d been able to keep their jobs, for up to four months.

I think even more important, it includes $350 billion in loans for small business, but it’s structured in a way to incentivize them to keep their workers on payroll so that those loans could be forgiven at the end of the period.
And it comes on top of legislation the President asked — signed last week for paid leave for workers who have to be at home because of the virus. Paid leave reimbursed in full, dollar for dollar, to the employers. It’s the first federal paid leave law for the private sector ever. And that also was achieved on an unprecedented, bipartisan basis.

This is the third major bipartisan piece of legislation in three weeks — three bills, three weeks — to address this virus.

So again, I want to thank the President for his leadership, his commitment to American workers, the Vice President as well, and Leader McConnell, and also my colleague, Secretary Mnuchin who did work so hard to help you get this done.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Gene, very much.

Dr. Fauci, you may want to just say for a minute what hit the world. Something hit the world, and the world maybe will never be the quite same. But we’re going to make it a great place anyway. But certainly, you could maybe say a few words about it, please.

DR. FAUCI: Well, thank you, Mr. President. And I want to thank everyone involved in this. This is what America is all about: a bipartisan approach, with your leadership, to do something that’s sorely needed by the American people.

Dr. Birx and I and all of our medical people here are fighting the virus directly. But the virus has an impact on the American people, both directly by illness and death, but also indirectly, because many of the things that we have to do to suppress the virus has a negative impact because of what we’re doing. To give them relief economically is absolutely essential.

So I feel really, really good about what’s happening today. Thank you all very much.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Tony. Thank you very much.

Deborah, perhaps you could say a few words or so about —

DR. BIRX: Well, thank you, Mr. President. Dr. Fauci covered it very well. As many of you know, I worked for him and he was my mentor 40 years ago.

I think whenever we start with one of these very serious diseases and a pandemic, the President’s first goal was ensuring the health of the American people, and that’s why we put out these very strong guidance.

It’s been a pleasure to work with the economic team here because they understand data in the same way. Economic data and health data is very similar in how you have to interpret it in a very granular way. And I think recognizing that the health of the American people is first, but the economic value of the nation is also critical.

And I just want to thank all of you for what you’ve done for the American people today.

THE PRESIDENT: Great job you’re doing too. Thank you.

Kevin, please.

REPRESENTATIVE BRADY: So just 20 days ago, I don’t know that anyone could have imagined how hard we’ve been hit medically or economically. But 20 days ago, I don’t think anyone could have imagined Congress pulling together so quickly and so forcefully behind what the President identified we needed for this country. This is a proud moment for all of us. And it’s just an example of what leadership can provide here in the White House, and then how we can respond as a Congress.

So thank you, Mr. President, for your leadership.

THE PRESIDENT: And I’m just saying, as Kevin is saying that, 20 days ago — a couple of days longer than that, maybe — we had a smooth-running, beautiful machine. We had the greatest economy in the history of our country. We had the highest stock price we’ve ever seen. It went up, I think, 151 times during the course of the presidency. And then we got hit by the invisible enemy, and we got hit hard. But it wasn’t just us, it was 151 countries, I think, as of the — as of this morning.

And you call Germany and speak to Angela — she’s in quarantine. And as you know, Boris was diagnosed that he’s positive. And all of the things that are happening, it’s hard to believe what’s gone on just in a short period of time.

And because of the talent behind me and lots of other talent in government, what we’ve done — this is a big part of it, obviously, but not the biggest part. Everybody has pulled together. Our nation has pulled together. The spirit is incredible. The people have pulled together more than anyone and better than anybody. And they’re doing really, really well.

But just to think how life can change where you go, 20 to 22 days ago, everything is perfect, we’re looking forward. I’m saying, “When are we going to hit 30,000? I want 30,000.” That means more jobs and more everything. And then, one day, we get hit with this thing that nobody ever heard of before. Nobody ever even heard of before. And now we’re fighting a different battle.

But I really think, in a fairly short period of time, because of what they’ve done and what everyone has done, I really think we’re going to be stronger than ever. And we’ll be protected from a lot of this. A lot of the things, Anthony, that we’ve done now — that we’re doing now — are going to protect us in the future if this should happen again.

DR. FAUCI: Absolutely.

THE PRESIDENT: From testing to so many other —

DR. FAUCI: Vaccines.

THE PRESIDENT: Even stockpiles. Right?

DR. FAUCI: And vaccines.

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah, the vaccines, hopefully. And vaccines, cures, therapeutics — whatever you want to call it — it’s a lot of progress. And I think on that score, I think we’re going to do a lot of progress on vaccines. We’re making, perhaps, a lot of progress on cures and therapeutics. We’ll be letting you know.

Anybody else have anything? Greg, please. Go ahead, fellas.

REPRESENTATIVE WALDEN: I would just say, I’ve never seen you shy away from a challenge. Your leadership and your policies and this great team brought America this enormous economy. And guess what? You get to do it again. This bill is the next step in that, and we can build back this economy with your leadership and with the healthcare team you’ve got here too. We’re doing the right thing for the American people, and they know that. I can tell you that from the ground. It’s not easy. It’s not easy.

THE PRESIDENT: No, it’s not.

REPRESENTATIVE WALDEN: We don’t want to shelter in place, as Americans. We want to be out, especially northwest.

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah.

REPRESENTATIVE WALDEN: But we know we have to do this for the safety of our relatives and families and our community and our country. So thanks for your leadership —

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much.

REPRESENTATIVE WALDEN: — and the great team you’ve assembled.

THE PRESIDENT: Appreciate it very much.

REPRESENTATIVE CHABOT: On behalf of small businesses, they’re the backbone of the American economy. About half the people that work in America work for a small business, and they’re hurting out there right now. I’m from Ohio. I’m the ranking member of the House Small Business Committee. And back there, nonessential small businesses are shut down.

Without this legislation, it’s questionable whether they would reopen. Because of this legislation, they now have a great chance of that. And those people that work for small businesses, who are shuttered now, will be paid. That’s really important. This wouldn’t have passed without your leadership, Mr. President. Thank you.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. And, you know, Eric worked so hard. You all know Eric. And he was at Steve’s side the whole way. And where is our man? Do I see Larry? Yeah, Larry. The two of them. How about Eric and then Larry say a couple of words and (inaudible.)

MR. UELAND: Well, thank you very much, Mr. President. I really appreciate it, and Mr. Vice President, as well. So you encouraged your team to be bold, be brave, and go big. And we certainly delivered today. (Laughter.) $6.2 trillion is tremendous. So we’ve made sure that we can reassure Americans that their paycheck is protected and that their earnings are protected. We’ve made sure that we can provide significant reinforcement to the American economy as a result of your leadership.

And, finally, looking ahead to address the virus, we’ve included significant resources in order to ensure that those therapies and ultimately that vaccine can come online as quickly as possible. So, protecting the public health and protecting the economic health of America is what you’ve directed us to do. And together, with the team, we’ve worked hard to deliver today.

Thank you very much, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. And Steve is going to work very hard on getting the money out quickly, and hopefully it can be distributed very quickly, especially when they have some old computer equipment that they have to use. But you’re going to work on that very hard.

SECRETARY MNUCHIN: We are indeed.

THE PRESIDENT: Larry, please. Larry Kudlow.

MR. KUDLOW: Oh, thanks, sir. Just hats off to Mitch McConnell who did an amazing job, and House leadership as well. And I agree with the bipartisanship. I want to give special thanks to my friend Steven Mnuchin, who I think did an extraordinary job. We were up there helping him out in one spot or another. But he’s indefatigable and got it done.

And I’ll just say this, Mr. President: A few months ago, this economy was roaring and we’ve hit this — literally, this bug, this virus. And we will deal with it. And I think the assistance bill here, which does have growth incentives, will help lead us back to a very strong economic rebound before this year is over.

Thank you, sir.

THE PRESIDENT: I think that too. I think we’re going to have a tremendous rebound at the end of the year — toward the end of the year. I think we’re going to have a rebound like we have never seen before. Even now it wants to rebound. You can see it, feel it. It wants to rebound so badly.

And, you know, we’ve had those really big — I guess, the biggest-ever stock market surge two days ago. And yesterday, it was great. Three biggest days in the history of the stock market. It wants to rebound so badly, but we have to get rid of the bug, we have to get rid of the virus.

Now, I’m going to sign this, and it’s a great honor — $6.2 trillion. I’ve never signed anything with a “T” on it. (Laughter.) I don’t know if I can handle this one, Mitch. (Laughter.) We can’t chicken out at this point, can we?. (Laughter.) I don’t think so, huh?

All right. Thank you all.

(The CARES Act is signed.)

THE PRESIDENT: Good. I wanted them to be a nice signature. (Applause.) Come on, fellas. Come on over here. Elaine. What a job she’s doing with transportation. How’s transportation? Okay?

SECRETARY CHAO: Fine. You always talk about the supply chain.

THE PRESIDENT: I do.

SECRETARY CHAO: It’s really important.

THE PRESIDENT: I do.

SECRETARY CHAO: This bill is going to help the supply chain and the workers.

THE PRESIDENT: Anthony? Thank you. Thanks, Tony, very much. Bob Lighthizer, thank you very much. Bob was a little less involved in this. He’s too busy making trade deals.

Okay? You have one? You definitely have to have one. Go ahead. You’re all set.

Thank you, everybody. So we’re going to have a 5:30 news conference in the same location. Seems to be doing quite well. And we appreciate everything. And we really appreciate the fairness, at least from most of the press. We really do. Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Q Mr. President, there was that rare moment of agreement today between you and Senator Kerry over —

THE PRESIDENT: That’s right.

Q — this issue with Massie. Can you expand a bit on that?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, he made a little joke about a man named Congressman Massie. I thought he was totally out of line — Congressman Massie. Because of that, I guess a lot of people had to come back, and they had to go into a place, which, frankly, we’re not supposed to be at, you know, in light of — of what we’re doing with Deborah and Tony and all of the professionals.

So people had to come back, and just no reason for it. So John Kerry made a little joke out of it, and I agreed with his joke. And I said, I never knew he had that kind of a personality. But we actually put it up, and he was right.

Okay, we’ll see you in a couple of minutes, folks. Thank you very much.

END 4:33 P.M. EDT

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211 Responses to President Trump Remarks While Signing Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES Act) – Video and Transcript…

  1. sharon goodson says:

    Bringing reserve to active duty for up to 24 consecutive months.
    I’m going to venture a guess those IRR reactivated are …

    MEDICAL
    ENGINEERS
    MILITARY POLICE
    TRANSPORTATION SPECIALISTS

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/eo-order-selected-reserve-certain-members-individual-ready-reserve-armed-forces-active-duty/

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    • JohnCasper says:

      “Bringing reserve to active duty for up to 24 consecutive months.”

      If anywhere near that long, it will be called a Backdoor Draft, and rightly so.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        No there is NO draft about it as it is part of your terms of service no matter if officer or enlisted. This is a great move as it allows activated logistics support specialists, especially leadership as required to cover hot spots.

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        • Jeff says:

          Agreed. IRR stands for Individual Ready Reserve. It is not to be confused with the Reserves; that’s a separate entity.
          Every service member signs up for a 6 year term. Usually, service members are active duty for 3 years, and IRR for 3 years, although sometimes it’s 4 on and 2 off. Every SM is subject to recall at any time during the IRR term. While not in uniform and not on active duty, they are still members of the military until their 6 year term is expired.

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        • amjean says:

          Agreed; and leadership is critical when dealing with democraps entrenched in
          their socialist/communist corrupt governing. Don’t forget the female leader in
          Puerto Rico; it has and will happen here if we let it. The ventilators were delivered
          to a NY warehouse….and not used and that a$$hat went on national television and
          complained they didn’t have them. Incompetency rules the day when it comes to
          the government.

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    • jx says:

      Why not use them to control the border?

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      • thedoc00 says:

        The IRR are not meant for actual “field” service but to provide leadership and fillers for key jobs here in the USA and training support for activated reserve units.

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    • giveadamn says:

      how does this reconcile with yesterday’s CV-19 presser when dr. brix was basically saying that the original models are too dire based on the data they are starting to compile? or reconcile with trump saying he wants the country up and running by easter sunday? it doesn’t. any ideas???

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  2. Now THIS bill has been signed, I’m fairly certain there won’t be enough pork left in America to make a decent BLT. SMH

    IMO, This will bite us in the a$$

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    • jumpinjarhead says:

      I fully agree. IMHO, it is a travesty that repubs basically capitulated to the dims on the vast majority of all their pork to avoid being criticized in the media. Then they all, including POTUS jump on a congressman who from all appearances, was trying to at least hold the House accountable as individuals for this incredible spending.

      A “crisis” is the most perilous time for our Republic.

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      • Curse them all. Of those trillions, BILLIONS will wind up in the pockets of crooked politicians at ALL levels.

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        • jumpinjarhead says:

          Yes and adding insult to injury are POTUS and repubs in Congress smiling and touting this monstrosity.

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          • Yup. Pelosi won this round, no matter how much people say she didn’t.

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            • jumpinjarhead says:

              Indeed. Of course the repubs in Congress, and to some extent even POTUS, have taught her that her tactics of delay, and obfuscation, with the cover afforded by the media, often work to back her opponents into a corner such that repubs generally will crumble for fear of negative press etc. as they repeatedly have done when there needs to be a budget extension to avoid a “shutdown” etc.

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              • Jumpinharhead:
                The criticism of the bill is, for me, baffling. Of course, it’s an outrageously pork-filled, Dem wish list. Speaker Pelosi used all the available leverage she had at her disposal to get her items in the bill. You see, adding pain and misery to the American people worked to her benefit, and decidedly against the President. Are there people who can’t see that?
                POTUS stands for election in 8 mos. Pelosi stands for election in 8 mos. Would you equate one office with the other? Who would suffer most from the finger-pointing battle between the Speaker and the President, if the latter vetoed the bill? It is idiotic ( thinking of you Mark Levin !) to claim that somehow the President could have vetoed this bill, or sent it back given what I said above about the leverage: pain and misery helps Dems. There was also the issue of the override as well.
                Nancy is a lock for reelection. Is the President? Oh, you prefer to vote the President out of office so as to elect a real conservative? You are dumber than I thought!
                Mark Levin, your comments this afternoon show you really dont’ have a head on your shoulders after all. The President understood it in a flash, while you’re still scratching your head!
                Here’s your cheat sheet: if the President vetoes, he gets overridden by Congress, and voted out of office in Nov. That’s ok with you? Go to hell!!

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                • jumpinjarhead says:

                  I am wholly unaware of whatever alevin said. In terms of partisan politics I am at bottom a pragmatist and understand the dynamics you have outlined, sans the Levin aspects as I do not know what he said.

                  Nonetheless, I will continue to point out what I believe are missteps and other failures by the repubs who effectively set POTUS up in this instance so he had no real option , in terms of partisan politics, but to do as he did. I would have preferred he not sugarcoat what the dems so crassly did and directly called them out when signing the bill into law.

                  This has been their usually successful M.O. for far too long and something needs to change if we are to avoid the train wreck that will surely come if the repubs continue enabling these America-haters.

                  There certainly seems to be much truth in what many Treepers call the uniparty. In my view he is a very imperfect agent of God’s Will and as such I will support him but not “idolize” him as so many appear to be doing.

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        • Karen says:

          Maybe it will be tracked into their pockets.

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          • Like they tracked all that money the Clintons laundered through their foundation?

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          • Dutchman says:

            PDJT is always “the happy warrior”, its part of his style; “my FRIEND” Chairman Xi, Angela Merkel, etc.

            And yeah, it bugs the heck out of me, when in swampspeak they pat themselves on the back, saying that what we just witnessed was “Bipartisanship, and Congress coming together for the American people”

            I want to GAG! If I were PDJT, I would NOT be able to say that, I wouldn’t!

            Coarse, one time the ONLY reason I didn’t throw this Dr out the window, is cause,we were only on the third floor.
            If we had been at 6th floor or higher, he’d have been learning how falling feels just like flyin, rjight up to the end!

            Seriously, I understand, and I agree the RepubliCONS do not “have PDJT’s back”, except to stab. This is why we can’t simply vote R, we have to work hard, at the grass roots level, to get M as in MAGA candidates on the ballot, and in seats in Senate and House.

            Until WE are able to do that, PDJT has to dance with the one that brung him, that is the pragmatic reality.

            On the bright side, this package is like the opposite of TARP; a major stimulas for the MAIN STREET economic engine, with very little for the WALL STREET economic engine.

            As such, it furthers his/our agenda, at the expence of the Globalists.

            Frankly, just as they don’t understand US, I really don’t think 99% of them truly understand what PDJT is doing, with his economic reset.

            Slipped it right past them, and they didn’t notice. I think, overall this was a victory, but like many of PDJT’s victories, it will take awhile to become apperent. IMHO

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            • jumpinjarhead says:

              I agree on some of your points, on others not so much. Frankly, and obviously just IMHO, many of us appease to be whistling past the graveyard a bit too much in assessing President Trump. I support him as the best of very imperfect alternatives but am not blind to his miscues that I believe are largely a function of his own blind spots that are in many ways the reciprocal of some of his strengths such as his apparent inability to fully assess some issues as to near and longer term fallout/risks, either because he is not getting sound advice in the first instance, or more likely, he is ignoring or discounting such advice due to his own preconceived notions of biases, which, again at bottom are largely those of a person fully steeped in the “culture” and rather limited detailed perspective of a wealthy New Yorker, as contrasted to the reality of the vast rest of America.

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              • jumpinjarhead says:

                Apologies—“appear” not “appease” in the 5th line.and the interminably long final sentence. Mea culpa. In my defense, I note that I am on my law mower in bright sun trying (horribly it seems) to multi-task.

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              • Dutchman says:

                You have stated your reservations before, and while I understand they are your views, I don’t agree, obviously.

                I would ask how much are YOUR own preconcieved notions of HIM, as wealthy New Yorker, fully steeped in the culture and with a limited perspective?

                As I look at his ACTIONS, I simply don’t see anything to justify such a judgement of his character.

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                • jumpinjarhead says:

                  I readily admit my own biases as a Christian conservative independent Southerner (although I have lived in a great many nonsouthern places in the US and abroad). How about yours since we are spilling our veritable guts?

                  I assure you my dear fellow/lady, I first evaluate facts and actions (as best anyone can determine them with 100% accuracy from afar any more). if it were not so I would not support President Trump to the extent I do.

                  That is also why I have reasonable and rational reservations and outright disagreements with some of his actual actions, actual (and apparent) decisions and actual statements he takes and makes.

                  As to his “character,” you must have an extremely selective (New Yorker perhaps?😀) lens. Of course, as a Christian and woeful sinner daily, I always allow for change in a person’s “character,” (of course “character” is a subjective thing so the best any of us can do is assess the outward manifestations of the inner “thing,” just like one’s salvation. (In traditional Christian parlance, “fruits of the spirit”).

                  With all that said, his “character” prior to taking office at least from all appearances, is in my assessment, has many aspects that I would not want to emulate or see my children mimic. I will not catalog them here, but even a skeptical review of some of his actual “major” and “minor” actions, associations, contributions, views and statements (see what I did there?) would find much support for my assessment.

                  To a lesser extent, and again going only from things he has said and as far as I am aware, any overt remorse and repentance for his past “life,” his “character” in my frame of reference comes up short but of course that can be said for all of us in our own ways. I also do readily admit that I have long held, especially after a 33 year tenure as a Marine officer, that those in leadership positions, especially (and “unfair” as it may seem to some from other traditions) for a POTUS, must bear heavier burden and higher standard of personal and public behavior.

                  We obviously will cheerily agree to disagree on many of these points but I look forward to learning of your own perspectives, and dare I say biases, that lead you to your assessment.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  In no way a New Yorker, lol.
                  Never been to the Big Apple, nor any desire to visit.
                  Born in Phoenix, Az 65 years ago (me and the cactus) raised primarily in the Southwest, with stints in Calif, Colo, New Mexico but mostly in both rural and urban Az.
                  In my youth, I was a burglar, broke into pharmacies, sold, used and became addicted to drugs.
                  It is only thru the direct intervention of Jesus that I am alive today, and far more important than physical life, that my spirit has been healed, so I well understand the concept and the reality of redemption.

                  Hence, I don’t concern myself with DJT’s behavior PRIOR to descending the escalator.

                  SINCE that time, I am not troubled by his ACTIONS.
                  And, I apply the same criterion to him as any other politician; focus on actions, as much or more than words.
                  I understand the difficulties he faces, in navigating the swamp, and that he sometimes needs to be disingenuos, in an environment in which Republicon leadership in CONgress are as against him as Democrats.
                  So, when he offers to give path to citesenship to DACA, in exchange for Dems agreeing to a whole list of his immigration priorities, KNOWING full well they won’t agree,…
                  Unlike the Coulterites I don’t set my hair on fire. I understand he is ‘playing’ the Dems, and exposing their true nature.

                  More broadly, as to my ‘perspectives’ like all they are based on my life experience, and in describing that, I am reminded of a couple of songs.
                  “I’ve been a ,..something (?) A poet a…”
                  I’ve been a burglar, a doper, a dealer, a con, an ex con,…yes.
                  I’ve been a lawyer (DIY) a Dr (likewise) but actually HAVE worked EMS, rural ambulance), a carpenter, a factory worker, a “jack of all trades, master of some”, a husband, a divorcee, a non custodial and custodial single parent, (so obviously father) and the list goes on, to the point it seems like I am making it up.
                  I have crammed a lot into my 65 years.
                  We all have biases, of coarse, its part of the human condition, I suppose,….
                  Another GREAT exchange, prayers and good wishes for you and yours, for our Country and the World!

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                • jumpinjarhead says:

                  Fantastic autobio—even more respect now than before. In fact, I owe you a bit more detail from mine given your fulsome and frank post. I shall endeavor to reply in kind after I complete my long “honey do” list of chores around the farm while the weather is so good —compared to our record-setting rainy weather of late but quite apropos to the “crisis” it seems.

                  Later my friend.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  Oh, another song I relate to;
                  I’ve been spit at (and hit),
                  Shot at (and missed).
                  I’ve been from Tuscon to Tukomkary(sp?) Tehachapi to Tonapah.
                  Ive driven every kind of rig thats ever been made (incliding Harley).
                  Driven on the backroads so I wouldn’t get searched (busted).

                  But, for last 6-9 months, have had two songs, consistently playing in my head;
                  Phil Collins “I can feel it in the air, tonite”
                  And on oldie:
                  “Sunshine go away today, cause,I don’t feel like dancing!”
                  Both give me boundless optimism, somehow.
                  I particularly like ;
                  Somebody tryin to run my life, but I can’t hear what your sayin,..
                  YOU CAN’T EVEN RUN YOUR OWN LIFE,…I’LL BE DAMNED IF YOU’LL RUN MINE! is particularly satisfying.

                  Also, “If I saw that you were drowning, I would not lend a hand!”
                  I seem to see a collage of faces with that line,…Nanzi, etc and more broadly all the screamers who I believe in an earlier era would have been deemed demon possesed.

                  Yeah, my by far better half is,…encouraging me to get up and get on with chores, and the sun is shining, its a beautiful day, so later, my friend.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  Hard to share personal details, in our conversation between you and me, and 100,000 ‘listeners’, lol.
                  I TRY not to give to many explicit details, that could lead those,so inclined to divine my identity, but its hard.

                  Unbelievable the amount of info than can be divined about someone, even without 702 about searches,.. keep it general I guess.

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                • jumpinjarhead says:

                  Yep. Anything PERSEC use nogafarmguy@yahoo.com😀😀

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        • Frank Williams says:

          NOW it is time that a special counsel with prosecutor power is set up to watch ANY and ALL such activity, accountable to the American people.

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          • Oh, Lawzy! NO!

            No more “Special Prosecutors!”

            What we NEED is an Attorney General with a moral compass and the testicular fortitude to clean out the DoJ and FBI. Maybe THEN they will do their jobs!

            Hint: Bill Barr ain’t him.

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      • JohnCasper says:

        That’s what Alexis de Tocqueville siad.

        War (including one on WuFlu / C19) does not always give over democratic communities to military government, but it must invariably and immeasurably increase the powers of civil government; it must almost compulsorily concentrate the direction of all men and the management of all things in the hands of the (“Deep State”) administration.

        If it does not lead to despotism by sudden violence, it prepares men for it more gently by their habits (which become the habits of sheep). All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war (including one on WuFlu / C19) is the surest and the shortest means to accomplish it. This is the first axiom of the science.
        .- Alexis de Tocqueville

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        • jumpinjarhead says:

          As I have been saying even before this current “crisis,” the vast majority of the American people appear to be increasingly like lemmings and sheeple, both easily spooked from or enamored with the latest “scary thing” or “cultural” fad and easily nudged and herded in whatever direction a given social or governmental elite desires. They have shown this with sickening clarity in this current “crisis.”

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          • Dutchman says:

            Funny, jumpinjarhead,…
            I feel just the opposite. I feel like for many, many years after Reagan, the American people went to sleeple, as we got battered, more and more,…

            And I feel like, beginning with tea party, we have begun waking up, in ever increasing #’s, and realising what was done, while we were sleeping.

            To me, we,are experiencing what happens when the sheep look up from their grazing, see the cliff they are about to walk off,……and, as they look around themselves in wonder, they realise they and their fellows are NOT sheep at all, but men and women.

            Leaders like PDJT do not create movements; even though it may be percieved that way by some.

            It is the MOVEMENT that creates the LEADER. And it wasn’t a movement of sheep, that created PDJT. It was a movement of men and women, who were AWAKE and fed up with what had been and was being done to them and their country.

            And our movement has steadily grown.

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            • jumpinjarhead says:

              Perhaps we have our hands on different parts of the same elephant—we shall see I suppose.

              All the tea parties I belonged to have gone away, those who we active in them have become, as I, voices crying in our NE Georgia wilderness as others who were in them have gone back to their “busy” lives, assuming apparently that the “threat” was now gone with the replacement of America-hater Barack Hussein Obama with President Trump.

              In my view, a number of things have certainly improved with that event, primarily due to POTUS’ Herculean efforts in the face of unprecedented “resistance.” I certainly give him credit where credit is due. I appreciate his efforts but will continue to evaluate each action, decision and statement he takes or makes on the merits or each, rather than the rather sweeping adoration I see from many Treepers and others.

              Notwithstanding that and without even broaching the myriad issues raised by the current “virus crisis,” however, as a close observer of our “society,” “culture” and “politics” (disgusting as they are), I am not as sanguine as you appear to be that “America has [truly] turned a corner toward the ‘good.’”

              In my, apparently jaded view, Americans in general, have continued down the path of societal destruction, albeit perhaps slowed just a bit with a different personage in the White House.

              Most appear to have fully bought into the very effective incremental strategy of progressivists and others to move America toward the “dark side” of rejection of Judeo-Christian values, much less the dreaded “faith”, (the new term apparently is “noner” to describe Americans who do not even think of morality or spiritual things in contrast to even old school atheists who at least consider them before believing otherwise), with far too many Americans, and incredibly those who profess to be “conservatives” or even more astonishing “Christians” apparently adopting a cultural “laissez faire” attitude toward immorality and outright perversion. Indeed, we seem very pliable in continuing to accept each such “new normal” imposed on us.

              We now find ourselves, for the moment at least until the next new normal, a “culture” that accepts, apparently without even even noticing, much less a passing pang of conscience a wide variety of very troubling things, including, but hardly limited to:

              1. perversion in all manner of sexual matters, from homosexual “marriage” to now even “credible” calls from academics for legalization of sexual predation of children,

              2. Rampant abortion, even after a live birth, and the best the repubs can do is Graham’s bill of illegality KNLY after 20 weeks!

              3. legalization of all manner of drugs, including that “harmless weed” that even many “conservatives” applaud,

              4. continued immigration and “acceptance” of islamists who have openly stated they are engaged in jihad through their practice of “migration” (“hijrah”) in spite of their long-stated goal of a global caliphate with subjugation or death for all infidels.

              4. continued commercial, educational and social interaction with COMMUNIST China in spite of its open strategy and world view of global domination,

              5. continued re-election of those professional politicians of both parties who clearly act in their own self-interest and that of the DC swamp,

              6. failure to hold criminally accountable the Deep State for their ongoing traitorous coup attempt,

              7. the failure to undo the incredible moral and spiritual damage done to our military from the social re-engineering of Barack Hussein Obama to welcome homosexuals, transwhatevers and other perversions into the ranks and, now even under POTUS, forcing women into ground combat units that will inevitably result in mission failures and needless casualties.

              These are but a few of the negative indicators I monitor, with many many more already embraced by most of America.

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              • Dutchman says:

                The tea party was largely a failure, but it was at least an attempt. And it WAS deliberately undermined, by Republicons in Congress, recognising their vulnerability and acting on multiple fronts to protect themselves.
                Much like a fighter protecting an injury, their actions telegraphed an inherent weakness, IMHO.

                I see many of the same things you do, the drag queen story hour, am expecting a push to legalise polygamy any time now, ….and I note it took post partum abortions to evince an outrage in many, like a sudden realisation of the frog, that they are being cooked!
                But, instead of jumping out of the pot, the frog simply request the heat be turned down, a little?

                So, its tolerable to murder babies, up until 20 weeks?
                Really?

                I recognise MAYBE this respite is one more chance for America. If we fail to reject Satans blandishments, repent and turn to God, asking forgiveness, then we will be chastised for our sinful ways?

                I recognise fully the possibilities when I pray both for me and mine, and for the country and the World,
                “THY, not MY, will be done!”

                To me this is clearly an epic battle between God and Satan, the miracle of his campaign and election, the miracle of him continueing to survive in office and actually grow stronger despite the forces aligned against him makes it obvious to me which ‘side’ DJT is on, despite your reservations.

                And the fact that all those forces,aligned against him embrace,all the things you have noted, reinforces who the opponents of PDJT represent.

                So, I believe God will succeed in beating back Satan, yet again, and that Satans latest plan, to conquer mankind and gain dominion over earth, will fail spectacularly.
                I certainly pray so. Or, we will be plunged into a dark age, with much martyring.

                I prefer to keep my eye looking towards the light, while well aware of the darkness.

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                • jumpinjarhead says:

                  An excellent and thoughtful post with which we agree on virtually every point you make.

                  Lest I be misunderstood as apparently you have in the implication of your final paragraph, I also look to the light in spiritual terms. My pointing out what I consider things that are largely blind spots—consciously or otherwise— to many other “conservatives” should not be regarded as spiritual negativity.

                  While I certainly would never presume to equate my “crying in the wilderness” to that of the great and lesser prophets of the Old and New Testaments, I do do rely on their example as validation of a Christian’s duty to call things as I see them, trying as hard as humanly possible to be fact-based in such observations, opinions and criticisms.

                  Again, just my view, but far too many professing conservatives appear to have either compromised what I regard as etched-in-stone principles (sanctity of life from conception, that our rights in the BOR are “natural” (in my lexicon, God-given) and not to be violated, even in an “emergency,” that moral/spiritual values of individuals are irrevocably intertwined with all other attributes of a society etc.) or apparently just turn a blind eye too the very negative and destructive behaviors and beliefs that now predominate our society. Either way, they are effectively contributing to our own ultimate societal entropy by their active or tacit approval.

                  Thus, I will continue to call attention to things I regard as cancers in our “culture” as well as moral or “political” failures by not only our politicians and others in our various levels of government as well as “influencers” (I think that is the current term) in the private sector but also among the vox populi.

                  Thanks for your excellent posts. I enjoy the discourse that is quite unusual in today’s drive-by (anti) social media.

                  Stay well and safe.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  I fully agree with your take on “conservatives”. In fact, with the distinction based on capitalising (or not) the first letter, and the (shudder) adding “neo” to the term, I have, over the years developed an aversion to the term “Conservative”, and tend to resist using it to describe my ‘world view’.
                  I think the breaking point for me was when Romney described himself as a “True conservative” and I nearly vomited, lol.
                  I, too very much enjoy our exchanges, and based on likes and comments of other treepers, we have something of a following.
                  I note in your previous responce, you are unsure of my gender, despite my ‘screen name’ of “Dutchman”, which is wise, as we have all encountered screen names which were ‘private jokes’, or perhaps unintentionally deceptive.
                  My broader point, is that despite you and I engaging in long, detailed “conversations” delving into our ‘world views’, it is difficult to detirmine gender, race or age.
                  The libtards really PUSH, as part of their ‘divide and conquer’ approach, that (for instance) women have a fundamentally different perspective, and therefore ‘world view’ than men.
                  Black, white ‘hispanic’ asian, etc. Young, middle age or old, male, female, gay, straight they really try to push this lie that each sub group has their own specific and fairly rigid view and grievances.

                  I think its clear, by how adamantly they respond, whenever anyone goes “off the reservation” (blacks for Trump, as an example) how threatened they are by having this underlieing principle (lie) challenged.

                  This relates, because blurring “conservative” and dividing it up into subgroups was, I believe, a way of disarming and undermining the initially STRONG conservative movement of the ’60’s, of Buckley, Goldwater and Reagan. (Referencing Reagans speech, I suspect you know of,…”a time for choosing”.

                  I do think if you look, there are threads of Nationalism and Populism in that earlier movement, and so while I don’t like much of what Bannon says and does, I have personally adopted his term of “Economic Nationalist/Populist” along with “MAGA” and “Deplorable” as best describing in a label, my views, conservative having been ruined by the likes of Romney, McStain. G. Wills and that National review editor idiot who’s name escapes me.

                  Anyway, I respect your uncompromising adherence to principles I share, and you keep right on being a voice in the wilderness.
                  I think maybe your not quite as much in the wilderness as you think, but thats a matter of glass 1/2 full/empty.

                  Remember the term “culture war”? We are VERY MUCH still IN it, even as talking head idiots seem to have dropped the term, in the era of TDS and “Deplorables”. It must not serve their agenda, anymore?

                  Anyway, great exchanging views with you, as always.
                  Now I’ll swith to your other comment, and try to respond,..

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                • jumpinjarhead says:

                  My only quibble with your other’s eyes and as usual insightful post is I much prefer, for substantive rather than mere stylistic preference, the term “homosexual” to “gay.”😀

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                • Dutchman says:

                  I use PDJT, as a sign of respect, rather than “Trump” but also cause all my comments are via this stupid “smart phone” ,…and PDJT is SHORTER; less letters.
                  Ditto with “gay”.
                  Particularly since, for some reason I can’t fully fathom, my posts start out looking like this;

                  Fo,r, reasones,I,can’t,fully,ascertained,no,matter,how,much,I,try,…
                  I tend to hit the comma button instead of the space button, so have to edit my post. Anyway I often choose words with less letters, so long as my meaning is clear. 🙂

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                • jumpinjarhead says:

                  Hah! I share much of your confusion with the mysteries of these devices. I also try as much as I can remember to do so to be respectful in referring to Trump as I do indeed respect him both for his office and if, nothing else, his incredible fortitude in the face of incessant adversity and calumny.

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    • JohnCasper says:

      You never had a rope around your neck. Well, I’m going to tell you something crazy. When that rope starts to pull tight, you can feel the Devil bite your ass.
      – Tuco

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    • Jeff says:

      Shoot, you should come down to Texas. Bring your rifle. The wild hogs are taking over. All the pork you want, there for the taking.
      But seriously, I agree with you. How do you read a 1,000 page document witten in a foreign language (Legalese), in two days?
      It also sets a precedent. $2T spending bills are the new baseline now.

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    • JL says:

      Let Democrat Governors destroy the economy leading to massive layoffs and business closures.

      Then pay the people that lost their jobs 100% not to work, giving each and every one of them a 4 month fully paid vacation.

      If a business that didn’t go under needs help, they now have to take the burden of a loan, keep employees they can’t afford to pay, AND pay back the loan. All while struggling to survive in a decimated economy.

      And for small business like mine, a sole propietorship, there is nothing. I make products for an older clientele and it’s completely dependent on them traveling around the country to group events every spring, summer, and fall. These shutdowns decimated my market.

      No one should be taking a victory lap on this.

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    • amjean says:

      Don’t worry; we are saving and will save even more $$$$$$$ when President Trump and his administration bring more jobs back to the US; we save more money by having
      our allies pay us to defend them and we cease giving aid to countries that hate us, etc.
      I trust President Trump to have the match on this one. He doesn’t seem the least bit
      worried; therefore, neither will I. President Trump would be the first I trust in this regard.

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    • jwmson says:

      WHEN Conservatives WIN (at best, it’s a tie) and when we LOSE, we get shutout. Unsure where this Bill lies, but I’m NOT supportive. IF R’s have entire Congress, seldom do any good and mostly tie; yet Dems (under BHO) MOVED THE NATION. THAT IS THE DIFF.

      Pelosi WON as much, if not more, than McConnell & McCarthy. Pelosi and Shumer ALWAYS get their just…but we Conservatives can’t ever count on anything…

      I’m actually done voting for these so-called R’s. I’ve been independent forever, because I’m really NOT a R. I’m much more principled, conservative, disciplined than the lot of these men and women.

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      • Agreed. Modern day GOP are not that different from moderate Democrats, since they’re BOTH determined to maintain the K-Street status quo in DC that favors Wall Street over Main Street. And, since most professional politicians are mostly unprincipled, they ALL are susceptible to corruption the moment they get to Capitol Hill.

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  3. JohnCasper says:

    “And it got a 96 to nothing.”

    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to reform (or at least pause and reflect).”
    – Mark Twain

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    • Deb says:

      A lot of new names trying to sow despair.

      Twain was a well known contrarian. Makes for clever prose, but pragmatism was what gets things done.

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      • GB Bari says:

        Excellent observation, Deb.

        People are hurting badly from being forced out of work on a huge scale. There was no precedent to use as a model around which small business owners could have planned.

        People have this inconvenient habit of needing to eat and afford the shelter in which they live.

        Now is not the time to whine. There is time in the future to discuss how to recoup this after everyone is back to work and the economy is humming again. I’ll bet that the President and his economic team have already figured out how to deal with the massive hit to our national debt.

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        • TARRIFFS! The rest of the world will pay for this if they choose not to manufacture here. Do you hear us Europe? With our strong dollar it will be difficult to export. However with a 30% reduction in bureaucrats sucking off the taxpayer teet, we will spend less. They will return to the private sector, filling all the low wage open jobs. The General public will see wages rise like never before.
          And then… consumption of the 20% of the American products we don’t consume will slowly make up for the rest. Don’t forget my prediction that there is also a new baby boom about to come!

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          • JL says:

            Strong dollar? We just passed legislation that authorizes the printing of $6 trillion. TRILLION. The floor is going to fall out of the dollar.

            How are we going to collect on tariffs, after destroying our economy? Why would anyone want to ship products here if no one is buying?

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            • Dutchman says:

              First off, as PDJT has said “strong dollar” SOUNDS nice, but it actually hurts our economy, in terms of exports.
              A little ‘weakening’of our dolllar would mean more exports, which means more jobs, which means more consumerism here.

              Secondly, whilr EVRRY country hss been ‘ripping us off’on trade, Japn, India, Brazil, etc. there are 2 large entities,which are different; CHI-NA and the EU.
              Unlike other countries, these two entities systems,are,structured to be TOTALLY DEPENDANT on continueing to rip us off.

              Therefore, PDJT can and has made trade deals with Japan, S. Korea, etc. and will make them with others,…

              But neither CHI-NA nor EU can actually agree and COMPLY with an agreement, that meets PDJT’s reasonable demands.
              So, he makes his demands, which are eminently ‘fair’, they balk. He says “You give me no choice but to even things with tariffs.”

              They diddle around, negotiate, delay etc.
              He patiently keeps tariffing them, and even raises.
              Point being, in a 12 month period ending in August 2019, he had taken 60 billion from CHI-NA, and the amount was steadily climbing, every month.

              This stimulas package WILL jump start our consumer driven economy, strengthening the MAIN street economic engine, which has fueled our unprecedented economic expansion.

              He will then either make the case CHI-NA is owed a spanking for this virus, or will publically catch them cheating on the phase one agreement, and put additional tariffs on CHI-NA.
              Remember, we are STILL dinging them, 25% on first 250 billion, that hasn’t stopped.
              And then, he,will turn his eyes and his Wolverines to EU. Same boat as CHI-NA.
              His demands that they open their markets are objectively fair and reasonable. BUT THEY CAN’T.

              And so, he will tariff them. In addition, negotiating FAIR trade deals with the other countries, Japan, India, Brazil etc will bring jobs, and $ to the U.S., and that includes the U.S. treasury.

              If you think of this $ as an investment in Main Street USA, based on the last 3 years, I think its clear it is a sound investment for America, unlike Tarp.

              A lot of the doomsaying I see here about this ‘package’ is like we have seen time and time again.

              I believe many are sincere, but sincere and right aren’t the same, and for predictive value, these gloom and doom comments have as much value as the “beginning of the end” predictions of the MSM. IMHO

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        • WSB says:

          Yes, and send China the bill, deducting all debt…adding up with a balance due.

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        • GB Bari says:

          “What makes you think everyone’s going back to work? ”

          Intuition. Logic. Critical thinking. Take your pick.

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      • JohnCasper says:

        Twain never would have achieved the enduring status he has by simply having “clever prose” – implication sounds good, but empty. He is likely the greatest analyst of the ‘human condition’ this world will ever produce. Even Mark Stein doesn’t come close.

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  4. L4grasshopper says:

    I know I’m spitting in the wind, but it’s driving me CRAZY that everybody is calling this bill a “stimulus” bill —- when it is NOT!

    This spending is intended to keep businesses and individuals afloat. It is NOT designed or intended to jolt the economy.

    OK…back to watching Hallmark Channel Christmas movies…..

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    • theoldgoat says:

      If it keeps businesses afloat, which would be going under without it, and gives money to people that will be spent on a wide sundry of items, isn’t it then a stimulus of sorts?

      If it keeps businesses viable, once this stupid lock down is ramped down, wouldn’t that help with rehiring of those laid off, putting them back to work, and restarting the economy? I doubt it will be like returning from a vacation, but while it might not be a bill which was called stimulus in the past, it could very well be the catalyst needed to keep the economy from tanking too much to recover.

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    • GB Bari says:

      I hear you, L4.

      IMO, potato / potahto.

      When a patient is down and the heart stops, we apply an electrical shock with a defibrillator to stimulate and startup the heart again. This economy had not yet died, but it was failing fast from being forcefully halted across so many sectors.

      This aid, relief, and economic security bill includes a type of stimulus to apply that needed jolt to get the heart rhythm and strength up to snuff. Then the bill also provides some temporary “life support” to individual and businesses that need to replace the revenue lost from normal operations that were halted or involuntarily slowed.

      If someone calls it a stimulus, we know what they mean.

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      • WSB says:

        GB…I coulda sworn this was OUR money to begin with. To me, it is just a rebate.

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        • GB Bari says:

          I guess we will need to see how the federal government modifies the tax rules for 2020 tax year and how the IRS is going to treat this one-time revenue.

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          • WSB says:

            I am thinking of not filing in case the on the ground assessment changes.

            I figure if I owe money…which after this disaster I should not…I will wait and see.

            I mean really, if we have had a catastrophic event, the government should contract, no? Which means I should pay less tax, yes?

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    • bertdilbert says:

      it is a stimulus bitt. We are a consumer driven economy and this puts cash in the consumer’s pocket. Putting out the money to keep businesses open does nothing if the consumer pockets are empty.

      Remember that the Fed also dropped interest rates so people can refinance and put money in their pockets This stimulus is multipronged.

      In Trump’s last stimulus he did the following
      1 lowered tax rates on businesses and consumers.
      2 Removed regulations
      3 Changed tax laws to allow money to be brought home.

      Without putting cash in the consumer pocket via this bill and the Fed, we would not have the results we are going to see in an economic snapback.

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      • JL says:

        Then why even make stuff? Why hire employees? Why pay them?

        If the government is just going to print money and pay consumers so they can buy stuff, then they don’t need to work. And if they don’t work, there’s no one to make the stuff they need to buy. So the government will have to start making stuff. Since they’re already paying people, they can just take over these companies that can’t operate so people have something to buy.. What’s this system called where the government pays people to buy stuff that the government makes?

        Socialism.

        That’s what it’s called. You want the government to own the means of production? We just passed it into law.

        This bill was written under hysterical panic. We should have stopped and redone it, as soon as it became apparent that we shut down the economy to fight the FLU.

        This recovery will now take YEARS as a result of this disaster.

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        • bertdilbert says:

          No, it is still the same system. Businesses collect the taxes and send them to the government.

          The war on terror is over. We have just changed the enemy. Ever actually see a terrorist? Well good luck seeing a microbe. Never stop an old war until you start a new one, just like with girlfriends.

          Welcome in your new friend, the medical industrial complex.

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        • GB Bari says:

          Not socialism when it’s a one time emergency action. Afterwards we revert back to the same system that’s always been working. That system has included a chunk of socialism since Social Security began, and then all the other entitlement programs added in the 1960s and later.

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    • Bolivar says:

      This bill is like a reparations payment made after a war to the country we fought and damaged. This $6.2 trillion is the first installment payment on the President’s war on the American economy and the American worker that apparently must be fought, via the total shutdown/stoppage of the economy. Shutting down an economy shuts down income, and contractual payments, like mortgages and rent and child support and other payments like food and clothing. So, the devastation from ending most income will be beyond comprehension. It’s like a neutron bomb explosion in every city and town in the country. The building will be there but the lives will all be destroyed. So, $6.2 trillion is paying America for the damage inflicted on America to fight the war on the flu. We won’t recover from this.

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    • JL says:

      Show us a single stimulus bill in the history of the United States that ever brought us out of a recession instead of prolonging it.

      If we can spend our way out of a recession, then WHY THE HELL DO WE STILL HAVE RECESSIONS?

      Because “stimulus” doesn’t stimulate. It stagnates. And we just passed $6 trillion worth of stagnation.

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  5. Is Congress suppose to pass a 2.2 Trillion stimulus bill each month till July then start again in November with monthly Stimulus bills?

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    • Magabear says:

      If demonrat/RINO governors have their way, then yes!

      Best if both worlds for them. They get to destroy PDJT’s economy while stuffing their state coffers with federal money, all while having everyone one on pins and needles awaiting their next edict from on high.

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    • JL says:

      Stimulus stimulates right?

      Awesome. No one has to work any more. We’ll just stimulate our way to prosperity.

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  6. It’s misnamed.

    CARES? No, they don’t.

    Should be DARTS:

    Did
    Anyone
    Read
    This
    Sh*t??

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  7. Suzy says:

    The President got what he wanted, and like the military spending bill, he got that and probably then some. He would not have signed it if he wasn’t getting what he needed out of the bill. Now let’s wait for some juicy surprises. Good ones of course.

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  8. 6x47 says:

    I have to be honest here: I am beyond horrified at this mother of all bailouts.

    $2 TRILLION? Maybe up to $6.2 TRILLION?

    This makes Barack Obama look like the model of fiscal conservatism.

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  9. fred5678 says:

    VSGCEOTRUMP is our new CTH approved initialism.

    he has earned it and proved that God HAS blessed America.

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  10. Bigbadmike says:

    If your working or run a business, you’ll like this bill. If you’re not working, retired, or trust funded, there is nothing there for you. Companies with under 500 employees can get. up to 10,000,000 forgivable loans, if they. spend the money on payroll. Businesses who jumped the gun, and layed people off when the first shot was fired are screwed. This levels the playing field as the government will be paying our employees, who will keep their jobs until the economy gets back to work. Because their jobs are safe, the economy will come back much sooner. 2-4 months instead of 18-20 Obama months. God bless our President and his Treasury Secretary Mnuchin.

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    • jumpinjarhead says:

      And what of the myriad pork add-on?

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      • WSB says:

        I doubt we will ever pay China back for anything. When the tally is summed up, they may be in for a surprise. President Trump has always said he would restructure our debt.

        Now, PT has options. MAGA options.

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        • 6x47 says:

          Very little of this $2 trillion in debt will be sold, and if it is the money spent on T bills will have been diverted from private investment.

          Most of this will be “monetized” – i.e. the Fed will print the money (or more accurately magic it into existence electronically with the push of a button.)

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          • WSB says:

            We’ll see. There is a new sheriff in town who may, like Calvin Cooledge, just shut 50% of the government down after this is all over…and get rid of the Fed. He effectively has done that with the EO already.

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          • WSB says:

            PS My point about the Chinese debt we ALREADY HAVE, is that PT will just remove the money we owe China from the balance they owe us for this mess.

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        • jumpinjarhead says:

          Disconnect totally and immediately from COMMUNIST China and deal henceforth with it as we would any other mortal enemy.

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          • Mrs. E says:

            Just wanted to take a moment here to say that I agree with you, JJH. I am not in lockstep with the president; I see when he makes mistakes and call him on it. This is one such time. And I treasure those who are disagreeing with him on this Bill. And I disagree with him about Massie! I hope that Kentucky continues to elect him and disregards what the president has said about it. That was wrong, and makes me very angry.

            And I am furious that he is agreeing with John Kerry!

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            • jumpinjarhead says:

              We are one in spirit—that is encouraging. We certainly need to support but not worship him. He is “simply” the best alternative we have but he is heatedly “perfect” and certainly not all-knowing as evident from some of his actions such as the bump-stock executive order (very ill-advised and quite troubling on multiple levels).

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          • WSB says:

            You bet. Long overdue, Tom Donahue…

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    • Publius2016 says:

      businesses can hire those they laid off as any money paid in salaries is credited…

      the real power comes through leverage…Mnuchin and the Fed get $4 Trillion…do you trust Mnuchin? 45 knows

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      • Mnuchin and the Treasury get 4 trillion… and yep, 45 knows, bigly!

        THIS is why President Trump has been calling the feral reserve followers and not leaders. He is showing the American people that they are worthless thieves! I believe he will start up on the fed similar to the way he talks about enemedia… PRICELESS. lol

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    • What about a retiree who works part time and pays taxes?

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    • Bolivar says:

      If you want America to survive you don’t like bills that have been passed with none of the Congress knowing what is in the bill. You don’t like bills that are to fix a “crisis” that are written and passed in mere days with zero public deliberation and input exclusively from lobbyists who are very connected. You don’t like huge bills that spend money like we actually have money. All this money will be paid not by us, but by future generations, if we ever get that far. Finally, this bill is the product of a crooked process where no Congressional regular order was involved. So, it is a pure backroom deal with powerbrokers stealing money from future generations to accomplish goals that we have no way of knowing. Because its all smoke and mirrors. And of course, it wouldn’t be needed at all if we just reopen our economy. But that is probably a long way off . Now, everyone just wants the free gubmint cheese and no work. In this bill and with this shutdown we have become a socialist country.

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    • JL says:

      No. I have a small business. I’m the only employee. This hysteria has destroyed my market, and this bill does absolutely zilch to help.

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    • testpointwp says:

      “If your (sic) working or run a business..” While I understand the point you’re trying to make, I’ve run four businesses and I’ve never been able to run them without working.

      I’m currently working and running a business and there is nothing in this bill for me. If you continue to pay your employees wages and benefits, aren’t looking for a loan and manage to make more than $99,000 the only certainty is the continued requirement of writing a big check for estimated taxes.

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    • Vincent Piotet says:

      Good will Trumps money !

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  11. David DeAtkine says:

    I think people are missing the point.This act, and Trumps EO today, nationalizes the Fed. Trump is essentially now the Fed Chairman, and the Treasury, for years under the thumb of the Fed, now IS the FED. It’s happening, people….we are getting our country back.

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    • Publius2016 says:

      45 mentioned he would consult with the greatest…the giants of finance…not hacks…

      something tells me former AIG head Maurice Greenberg is coming back online…also Milken was pardoned and maybe the guys from Bear Sterns…

      The Virus Event 2O1 Globalist Deep State Thank Tank Black Op had now met BLOWBACK!

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    • CredibilityStreet says:

      I don’t understand the importance of this. Please explain. And why and how in this bill?

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    • This has been done before on a minor scale. I truly believe President Trump will make this permanent and that the feral reserve can go suck eggs.

      That’s what President Trump has told us he would do. Will he will start letting the dumbmasses know just how often the feral reserve has ripped us all off? WIll he be offering up solid proof that there is NO NEED for the feral reserve? Will WE be paying them “interest” on this printing of trillions in fiat money now that it’s tied to the Treasury?

      Those of us that are freaking out, well, maybe you’re right. Maybe you aren’t. I am still on the TRUMP TRAIN, and enjoying the hell out of this bumpy ride that is about to get much more WILD. Did any of us expect what he told us he would do wouldn’t be wild?

      WHO shut down the economy? How did this virus get released? Is it stronger than the annual flu? Are tens of thousands of Americans dying from it? Are hundreds of thousands of people around the planet dead? Millions, dead? What’s the number?

      Is he using this manufactured crisis to our benefit in the long run? President Trump said he thinks the biggest rebound ever is coming soon… what say you?

      Are some of us feeling very negative alluding to our President being deep state himself?
      Or, that he’s been fooled by deep state?

      Easter Sunday is right around the corner. And Prescient President Donald J. Trump, VSG, is looking forward to it and the restart of all economic activities. So am I.

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      • Magabear says:

        And PDJT may well be looking forward to restarting economic activity, but dozens of demonrat/RINO governors seem to have no such wish. If over 50% of the country is still under lockdown heading into late April or into May, restarting the economy will be a difficult task.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Magabear;
          PDJT is already ‘on the case’, you just have to ‘read between the lines’.
          Firstly, note how Dr berk gently but firmly and clearly ‘read the riot act’ people EXAGERATING. Everyone assumed that was aimed at the msm.
          While it was, it was aimed at ANYONE exxageratimg, and lays the groundwork for additional similar criticism.

          Second, note they are talking about going to a county by county rating system.

          No doubt, the TASK FORCE, after consulting the data, will assign each county a rating. How, exactly is a Govenor going to counter that?

          They won’t be ‘opposing’ PDJT, they will be disagreeing with the ‘experts’and the data.

          So, the TASK force says that ‘X’ county, in ‘Y’ state, which has had -0- deaths and,-0- cases, can lift the lockdown and go back to work, and the,Govenor says “No”, remain in your homes!

          Fine, the consequences are on him or her.

          I swear, PDJT’s got this.

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      • Bolivar says:

        And of course that will be a great accomplishment when the next Obama or Clinton is President. Of course we may never get there the way our liberties are being trashed and our businesses and jobs are being destroyed in the “war on the common cold”

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      • Vincent Piotet says:

        G_D is a G__D Dad

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    • shacklesandchains says:

      Did everyone miss the small paragraph just above the highlighted segment? “The federal government is nationalizing large swaths of the financial markets”. Nationalizing, as in fascism. And, who the blank is BlackRock, Inc.? Who owns them? Who decided that they get this contract worth billions? What fee will they get for these purchases?

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  12. luke says:

    SD I have been part of this community for many years. Think I started in 2015 before the primaries started. I don’t know what to say fellers other than we are all in this together; and I mean All Americans. We are literally at war (not figuratively). Things are going to get really hard to understand for most of us. At least we have someone we trust at the top. Listen to him, listen to his team. I know we are running a Socialist system now; I get it. But he does too and PDT is the only one who can pull us out of it. That can only happen when the fear of disease subsides. I’ve been focused on the COVID19 Task force communications since Sunday. I can tell you that this IS a deadly serious threat and we are not coming out of it anytime soon. Prepare accordingly Treepers.

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  13. Tseg says:

    #JoeDidNotDieFromChinaFlu

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  14. Bolivar says:

    In the Corona press briefing this evening President Trump stated that currently $6.2 trillion is planned to repair the damage sustained by the American economy and the American worker in his war on the flu. That adds $6.2 trillion to our debt since we have no money. And the cost could very well rise since the war on the economy is continuing till Easter and there is no assurance the date won’t be extended well beyond that. There seems to be a lot of enthusiasm for this war and the administration does not seem concerned that Americans have no paychecks, no way to pay mortgages, or health care premiums, etc. It is stunning how calm the DC rulers are with shutting down the nation. Thee seem to be energized by the chance to have nightly briefings telling Americans what they are not permitted to do each day. And they stand close together while they tell us to maintain social distance. They were doing that today as they gathered behind Trump for the bill signing and he handed each dignitary a pen, which he touched, and they took the pen in their hands and thereby received whatever germs he put on the pens onto their hands. There may need to be total quarantine of DC politicians to contain the deadly infections that were shared in that bill signing alone. $6.2 trillion. I remember when a million was a lot.

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    • Publius2016 says:

      SD showed that the reset from Globalist supply lines to national production had created a massive re-pricing of foreign assets…

      45 put the Top America First Trade Hawk as head of DPA…

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    • Lady in Red says:

      Bolivar…Strain fan?

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    • jmclever says:

      where do you suppose all that cash from tariffs on China went?

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      • Dutchman says:

        And is STILL going; right into the treasury. And, prior to two-three weeks ago, increasing every month.

        And he hasn’t even started on the EU, yet. In 12 months ending Aug 2019, it was 62 Billion. And July was 5.4 Billion, August 6 Billion, as an indication of the,steady rise.

        And they won’t be going away, any time soon, either for China, or for EU once implemented, cause niether system can comply.

        Trade deal with Japan, like other countries that CAN comply, means more exports, means more jobs, means more revenue.

        Before this dampanic, he was well on the,way to structuring our economy towards solvency, and he will get us back there.

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      • Bolivar says:

        That money is about .0000000000001% of the bill passed and signed yesterday to win the war against the American Economy using the Forever Shutdown to beat the Fake Virus.

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  15. Hans says:

    Guys I’m good with this…. listen to PDT… and think slowly…. we needed to bring manufacturing back to the United States….. we needed to rebuild the middle class.. we are doing that with this bill. PDT said we are going to build ventilators… and if we have them left over we are going to give them to our friends… read England Germany, Italy, Canada , Spain… export…

    what has China been doing… selling cheap crap to Italy and Spain… PDT is giving manufacturing to the companies closed down by these Govenors. PPE equipment that are essential. WORK

    PDT is bringing independence from globalists…GM reneged..they were called out…

    PDT has the funds to rebuild our nation…. thanks be to God. Thanks to President Donald Trump.

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  16. Tseg says:

    Riddle me this… the last few days the media talking point was New York City is now “ground zero” for China flu, but in past 24 hours there is a grand total of…. one new death in the city. Throughout this flu, the talking points are never synced to the data. Makes no sense.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8160603/New-York-state-coronavirus-death-toll-soars-519.html

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    • Hans says:

      The numbers don’t work.. neither does the number of cases vs the hospital beds vs the ventilators…. we just don’t have the facts or social conditions that factor in yet….

      there was an interesting comment made today at the presser.. China and S. Korea took infected individuals from the family home and placed them in isolation..has not happened in Italy…. That would not work in the United States.. each country handles the spread in their own way.

      my point….so we will have to contain the spread in family isolation and not individual isolation.. family isolation is much more difficult.. it will also be slower… it also means a larger number of possible cases…

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      • Donzo says:

        In San Francisco they wouldn’t be able to isolate infected individual in hotels because the homeless have occupied the rooms by order of the municipal government. I wonder if they get free room service and messages.

        Mercury News

        “San Francisco supervisors are working on making as many as 8,500 hotel rooms available this week to homeless residents, healthcare workers and first-responders who have nowhere to isolate during the coronavirus pandemic.There are more than 5,000 people living without shelter on the city’s streets, leading to a “very urgent crisis” as officials struggle to keep the unhoused safe from COVID-19.”

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    • Donzo says:

      And the person who died tripped trying to stay six feet away from another pedestrian…/s
      No offense to the deceased.

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    • JL says:

      Bingo.

      This is what hysteria looks like.

      We just destroyed our economy to fight the Wuhan equivalent of the seasonal flu.

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  17. icthematrix says:

    So much to digest and I’ve been busy working, leading a business designated essential by our President (thank goodness).

    The Dims played this almost perfectly, while Pelosi tried to add to their sick masterpiece by pushing for the moon. Frankly it was likely all smoke and mirrors, as the extreme overreach was designed to disguise the elements they really wanted…the Trojan horses within the bill.

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    • 1togetready says:

      Yep, the old “take away scam”. Ask for ridiculous items that have no chance of passing, then take them out to “compromise” and get all the pork they want. Lots of PIGS with their snout in the trough on this one.

      Where the hell is Joni “make ’em squeal” Ernst?

      Why would Trump go along with this scam? He should have addressed the nation in the beginning and said he would only sign a clean, no pork bill.

      I am sick of crap like this. SICK OF IT!!!

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      • Hans says:

        PDT could have done it.. he did not do it because it would interfere with his long range plan… There is enough money to rebuild manufacturing in the United States. Remember how China threatened us in Dec 2019… the pork was to put democrats off the scent…

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        • JL says:

          If we can simply spend ourselves into prosperity, why do we still have recessions?

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        • butch cassidy says:

          Hans, your wasting your time, some people just can’t see what the big picture is. And the big picture is the 2020 election. Trump loses in 2020 then we are all totally screwed. Just imagine what this bill would have looked like if the dems had control, we saw a preview. 2 months ago the story was Barr and how we needed justice and expose all the criminals, that was going to help Trump. Well that’s all on the back burner as of now, might still be in play later this year.It’s a new game now. If the country, repubs, dems independents,all of us, believes that Trumps leadership got us through this then he easily wins reelection, and that’s the big picture and that should be the focus.

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          • testpointwp says:

            RBG will not live forever. And neither will Clarence Thomas. That is a very big part of the big picture. A 5-4 majority of libs on the supreme court and you can say goodbye to America as it was founded in a New York minute.

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  18. Donzo says:

    It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you are 40 except that you collect if you don’t die and don’t collect if you do.

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  19. The American Patriot says:

    The comments from posters posing as Treepers are so sickening that they can’t even appreciate what Trump is doing to save the economy and help us.

    If I was a mod, a number of comments would be deleted……..period!

    Liked by 2 people

    • GB Bari says:

      Treehouse has always had a share of detractors who know far better than the President. It’s all good.
      Everyone is on their individual learning path through life. We are all at different points along that path.
      The President eventually teaches us all new ways of thinking and solving problems.

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    • Hans says:

      America Patriot we get it..

      There is a community here lots of expertise in many areas… Some get PDT points/intentions easily it’s in their area of expertise…others take time. Different views lead to analyzing a situation from many viewpoints. This is part of our strength here.. many views lead to clarity in this mixed up world. I know sometimes it’s overwhelming… take a breath.. re read re analyze… sometimes it might take days or weeks.. we are here for the long haul… there is no quick or easy solution.. our nations problems were not created in one day nor will they be solved in one day…..I Think we just dodged a big bullet….

      There are Trolls here also.. they are easy to detect by their comments.. We don’t need to delete their comments .. they are ignored…

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    • LafnH20 says:

      It Doesn’t matter one bit what the Doomers say, TAP
      They haven’t been right yet, imho.

      President Trump is going to M.A.G.A…
      …Once Again.
      Ain’t nothing the Doomers can do about it.

      I’m keeping my eyes on the prize.
      Nov 2020
      I’m going to support President Trump –
      Come Hell or high water…. any way I can..

      Each and Every day he is my President.

      I’m stickin’

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      • Rileytrips says:

        I just can’t wait until Easter! I have started a kitchen garden and a flower garden. Spring is in the air, God is good. And Donald J. Trump is still our President!!

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    • I Will Not Comply says:

      The American Patriot,
      It is a good thing you are not the decider of others opinions. Period!

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  20. Fools Gold says:

    I’m looking at it this way, ~26k have died worldwide since they starting tracking deaths from COV19. Now compare that to everyday deaths/day worldwide…I call BS.

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  21. marymorse says:

    Let’s do the math, and please correct me if I make a mistake:

    This historic bill includes the following:
    * $300 billion in direct cash payments will be available to
    every American citizen earning less than $99,000 per year; $3,400 for a typical family of four. So a family of four: $3,400.
    * And then $350 billion in job retention loans for small
    businesses, with loan forgiveness available for businesses that continue paying their workers. The workers get paid.
    * Approximately $250 billion in expanded unemployment
    benefits. The average worker who has lost his or her job will receive 100 percent of their salary for up to four full months.
    So, things like this have never happened in our country.
    * $500 billion in support for hard-hit industries, with a ban
    on corporate stock buybacks — we don’t let them buy back the stock; we don’t let that happen — and tough limits on executive compensation.
    * Over $100 billion to support our heroic doctors, nurses, and
    hospitals. And you see what’s happening. And I want to thank, while we’re here, also the incredible job that’s done by the Army Corps of Engineers and by FEMA. It’s been incredible. They did four hospitals in two days or three days, in New York. And they’re, like, incredible structures. What a job they’ve been doing. And they’re doing them all over the country.

    So far $1.5 trillion.

    Another $72 billion:
    * $45 billion for the Disaster Relief Fund, supporting our
    state, local, and tribal leaders.
    * $27 billion for the development of vaccines, therapies, and
    other public health response efforts, including $16 billion to build up the Strategic National Stockpile with critical stockpiles. And I’m going to — we have tremendous supplies coming into the stockpile, and you’ll be seeing that and hearing about it in a little bit because we’re doing a news conference at 5:30 on what’s happening.

    $4.5 billion more:
    So you have also $3.5 billion to states to expand childcare benefits for healthcare workers, first responders, and others on the frontlines of this crisis, and $1 billion for securing supplies under the Defense Protection Act. And, as you know, I’ve enacted the act. We’ve used it three or four times. I pulled it back three times because the companies came through, in the end. They didn’t need the act. It’s been great leverage.

    That’s $1.5725 trillion total, identified by the President.

    But, Mitch, I’d like — I’d love to say a few words because you — this man worked 24 hours a day for a long time. This is the result. It’s the biggest ever — ever approved in Congress: 6.2 bill- — $6.2 trillion. So, you know, we used to get used to the billion. It used to be million, then it was billion, now it’s trillion. And it’s going to go a long way. It’s going to make a lot of people very happy.

    What are they doing with the other $4.6275 trillion?

    95-0

    Mr. President, why did you sign this bill?

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    • JohnCasper says:

      “What are they doing with the other $4.6275 trillion? “

      Where’s Hunter ? Where’s Pelosi’s son? Where is Kerry’s son? Where is Mitt Romney’s top aid ?

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    • Hans says:

      Relax and watch. PDT has a plan… he survived 3 1/2 years of BS.. he can handle this. He is rebuilding the middle class and the small businesses of the United States..

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    • marymorse says:

      Sorry, LOL

      $1.5765 trillion
      $4.6235 trillion balance

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    • butch cassidy says:

      Ok mary, it’s easy to criticize, but if you do then you need to give us an alternative plan. Go ahead, detail your plan, we’re all ears.That’s the problem with posters on here who just criticize and give no alternatives and the reason they/you have no alternative is this is way outside your depth, it’s outside all our depth Anyone can point out a problem, it’s the people who have solutions that the majority of people care about.

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  22. Does ANYONE here know ANYONE that has this Covid-19 virus?

    Anyone? How many of us do?

    I believe I did read a comment here that someone did, but ONE comment.

    I don’t know anyone with it, haven’t heard of anyone with it and from a very large circle of people that I interact with personally and professionally and including all those I “know” from the internet.

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    • vmi80 says:

      Tom Hanks says he has it.

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    • Magabear says:

      I know of no one who has it, first hand or second hand.

      Someone on the radio made a great point. All the stories quoting some health worker always quote them as an anonymous source when claiming that hospitals are being overwhelmed. How hard would it be to have a reporter take a tally of people being admitted to a hospital? Likely because the numbers don’t support the narrative.

      I also heard a news update where they said schools will remain closed but still be open to provide free meals and daycare. I guess only learning exposes kids to the Wuhan virus. 😕

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    • Fools Gold says:

      Rand Paul has it but I’ve never met him. Heard it from my POTUS Snd sure didn’t stop him from voting a 2Trillion spending or Fed spending…

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    • hrmfc says:

      Unfortunately I do. I have a cousin who returned from a trip in Italy. He is in self quarantine and feeling better. I also have a second cousin who lives in NY. He and his wife left NYC to go to their beach house in isolation. They also have a mild case.
      My son in law works in NYC. He was told by his employer that he was exposed to the virus by a coworker. He fortunately did not get it.
      I have two friends and their daughters were both exposed. One was in Spain and is in isolation until tomorrow. The other friend’s daughter was in NY and she came home but is in self isolation in their home.
      I also have a friend who is a physician in our small local hospital. It is a town of only 5000 people but we are near a large resort community. He was very worried about the number of ventilators. There are ten in the hospital and he was worried if people came to their condos from NY, Philli or Baltimore that there wouldn’t be enough. The hospital did have two patients with coronovirus 19. One passed away.
      Yes, this could be just like the regular flu but it is not if someone has risk factors. Then it attacks the lungs rapidly. Forced hibernation is a strategy I am willing to do to keep my husband and I healthy but I care much more for the young families and babies and their health.

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  23. cherokeepeople says:
    • Hans says:

      Pelosi is toast.. on TV she is incoherent. She overplayed her hand and allowed PDT/Senate over three days to expose the pork. PDT was able to strip out most of the pork and the ballot harvesting out of this bill. She was not invited to the WH for the signing and PDT no longer needs her… PDT gave them money for the Kennedy Center.. as a token…

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      • VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

        Hans,
        Please explain $513,900,000 to the Africa fund or, $28,202,470,000 for special drawing rights (SDR) to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), because I can’t. I can but I won’t.

        You know when you go out shopping and spend all that money with your eyes, that’s I felt reading from page 600 to the end of the CARES ACT. Difference was…
        At least I used my eyes and not my wallet of spending that money.

        I take that back, we all used our wallets on this one.

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        • Hans says:

          There are a lot of things I don’t like in this bill. I fully agree with everyone that there is pork in there. I I try to remember that in any negotiation in congress you must compromise to get anything. There are no free bees. So what does this bill say to me…NO CIVIL WAR. NO RIOTS. Victory in the Nov 2020 elections.

          When the democratic governors and mayors closed down states and cities with blunt instruments I was worried. It’s obvious to most people you don’t shut down the economy for the whole state because ot several corona cases. But you can use that as a excuse to cover up your real purpose. Destroy the US economy and be under controll of the globalists.

          With Millions of people out of work and most unemployed compensation a pittance stress goes thru the roof. There would Not be enough money to survive on for any extended time… this bill fixed that ..not perfectly but enough to get the country working again.

          So the president had a choice he could win the battle cut out all the pork by endless debates in the Senate exposing the democratic pork and loose the war in nov 2020 because people became homeless and starve.

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        • National Emergency. POTUS 45 can direct funds where needed, especially snarky disgusting piglosi pork “funds”.

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  24. burginthorn says:

    If anyone would be so kind to explain. 6.2 Trillion dollars. Where does this money come from? Is it borrowed? and if so, from whom?

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    • JohnCasper says:

      There are those who believe that’s what is causing the TP shortage. The Fed is buying it all up and will use it to print that 6.2 Trillion dollars on. People used to talk about rolls of money – this would literally be it.

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    • Fools Gold says:

      Just print more paper and add it to the IOU fund and wallah….

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    • Magabear says:

      It’s borrowed from the many tomorrows following today. 😉

      But on a happy front, that $1200.00 just bought me that new bass guitar I was saving up for! 😊 Now to find an open music store. 😒

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  25. JohnCasper says:

    Money don’t get everything, it’s true
    What it don’t get, I can’t use

    [Now, give me money (That’s what I want)
    That’s what I want (That’s what I want)
    That’s what I want, yeah (That’s what I want)
    That’s what I want, whoa

    – The Beatles

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  26. Todd says:

    President Trump knows how to manage money. For the first time since I ever thought about Social Security, I am not worried. If congress can pass $2.2 trillion (or more) on a flu virus, I no longer have doubts about the Social Security system remaining solvent practically forever.

    Almost every business transaction today is conducted via Digital Dollars. The amount of Digital Dollar transactions every day trounces cash payments. When is the last time you paid your car, home, phone, internet, cable, gas, or electric bill in cash? Pay by check? Digital Dollars delivered by snail mail. Checks are expensive! Which is why checks are going the way of the typewriter.

    $2.2 trillion (with a T) and possibly up to over $6 trillion. Classic Trump.

    All created by a couple of key strokes on the computer. Our amazing Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin knows all about it. Digital “check” payments will be delivered to your personal bank account in a couple of weeks to help make up what we lost in consumer spending.

    If you don’t have an online bank account, a check will be sent in the mail. Might take a little bit longer, but it’ll get there.

    Human production is unlimited. Unlimited production requires an unlimited supply of money.

    Digital $ is INFINITE because so long as humans live on Earth, the amount of money necessary to finance every human being is literally infinite so long as humans live in a free and open society.

    Trillions of Digital Dollars is nothing in the grand scheme of infinite human production.

    Seize the means of production, and human productivity will grind to a halt – like now.

    America is experiencing what it’s like to live in FEAR of an invisible enemy.

    The invisible enemy is Communism and its twisted sister Socialism.

    A wicked virus that came from Russia and China many moons ago.

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  27. VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

    I know Trump was backed into a corner, I know Trump was backed into a corner, I know Trump was backed into a corner, I know Trump was backed into a corner….

    It helps! I read all 880 pages of the CARES ACT, I know Trump was backed into a corner….

    My new Mantra

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  28. Carl Derzsi says:

    Obama+Bush 2008 stimulus was 12% while Trump’s 2.2 signed is 10. All in GDP equivalents.

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  29. Marcia says:

    Retired Magistrate here: Reply to Human Condition: I have a good friend in Maine whose son became ill, got tested and the test came back positive for the coronavirus. He is in his 40’s and has underlying health issues. He is miserable with it; however, not bad enough to be hospitalized and should be OK.

    I think my husband and I may have had it in January. Wasn’t exactly a cold, but not the flu either. Very tired, cough and just didn’t feel well. We got over it in about 10 days. Of course we now have seasonal allergies, but that is a different problem.

    Hope this answers your question.

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    • Well, that’s one someone knows that you told us about. You “may” have had it can’t be counted.

      No one else so far has stated that they know anyone with it.

      I know MSM LIES and lies and lies… so I do not trust the numbers, that’s all.

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  30. I Will Not says:

    I have tried to point people to this website so they can learn stuff they would otherwise never know. They come here and disagree with someone and they get shot down by some jerk comment and then leave. How are we going to get people to see the truth when some here are nothing more than rude as hell. As someone else said, people know what they know and learn at a different pace than others. No matter what you know, or how smart you think you are, everyone, and I mean everyone, knows something you do not.

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  31. Most of this is needed.

    In medicine, we should LOWER the cost by allowing medicine that works, is safe AND cheap such as Hydrochloroquine to be used instead of less effective, unsafe and expensive drugs.

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  32. Gary Lacey says:

    “”THE PRESIDENT: So, that’s fantastic. But I want to thank Republicans and Democrats for coming together, setting aside their differences, and putting America first.””
    Yes, the democrats crossed the aisle and at a steep price….not for the American people mind you, but for the democrat party.
    Nasty Pelosi, our GODLESS speaker was all grins……at last a victory!

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  33. MostlyRight says:

    $4 Trillion directed by Trump…hmmmm? Massive infrastructure? Moving strategic manufacturing of medical, energy, food, and military manufacturing back home? Buying Greenland? So many options for a real estate developer.

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  34. jx says:

    McConnell: “Let me just say this is a proud moment for our country, for the President. The Republicans and the Democrats all pulled together and passed the biggest bill in history in record time.”

    McConnell is a fool.

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  35. Mrs. E says:

    Well I certainly, as one who cherishes Liberty, do not agree with the president about Massie, nor necessarily this gargantuan handout. Not everyone agrees with the president, and I am hearing from some of those who do not, and who are angry about this $2T handout.

    Trump is a flawed human being, along with the rest of us. I will not fall into lockstep with him. I will support him when he does what is right. I have a lot to thank him for, after all he is doing for America; I will be voting for him again in 2020. But I will not agree with him about Massie, and I hope that Massie withstands this attack on him, and that Kentucky re-elects him.

    The Founders never wanted us to always agree and fall into lockstep; they warned the nation about it.

    And when this president agrees with John Kerry, and says he is right in his offensive remarks about Massie, I am very concerned. I would rather hear the president uphold our right to disagree, and to support Massie in spite of his disagreement on this issue. What would it cost him? Nothing. He is beloved by America. It was not necessary to attack Rep. Massie, and I am angry about it.

    He talks about our Liberty and the people who forged it; he needs to uphold it even when it is not in lockstep with him.

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  36. shacklesandchains says:

    So, the government just gave the contract to purchase 4 trillion+ in securities to Black Rock, Inc.
    Who is Black Rock? Larry Fink, who hates fossil fuels. Who decides where the 4 trillion+ is spent?
    Larry Fink. How did they get this contract?

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  37. leslievb3 says:

    I have supported Trump since he announced, as I was in total lockstep agreement with what he was saying about immigration. I part ways on this massive spending bill. There is so much pork in here that it disgusts me. Notwithstanding the price tag of $70k and up per tax paying family which is more like $140k for most of us as 50% pay nothing or nominal amounts. There is also a lot of double dipping with the unemployment. I am angered by this bill, Trump should have taken a hard line and said to both sides, “I won’t sign anything with pork”. To be fair, I’ve been disappointed with Trump’s response in general with lowering our debt and cutting the budget. I thought as a businessman Trump would be more fiscally responsible. For now I am taking a step back from Trump, while I do like that he’s brought in other businesses to respond to this crisis, I believe his lack of action initially cost a lot of time. Yes, he stopped flights from Wuhan but he should have stopped all flights from China or anyone who was in China needed to quarantine for the14 days, courtesy of our Government. Does anyone else shake their head when he spouts all this, they’re my friend stuff? It’s like a third grade mentality. People who you engage in professional interactions are colleagues first not friends. Xi and any conversation was meant for political gain on the behalf of China, China does not care about anyone other than themselves, to believe otherwise is foolhardy. SMH in disgust over this travesty.

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